 at a super chat question. Any comment on the EU Google 5 million anti-trust fine? Should Google shrug and withdraw offering their service to the EU? Certainly they should withdraw service from the UN. Wow. I mean, it's horrible. I mean, the fact that the EU has the power, that any government has the power to inflict a fine like that on one of the most productive companies in the world. One of the companies that have changed all of our lives, that have in substantial dramatic ways made the world in which we live better. The fact that any government agency can do that is just a massive injustice and horrible. And I don't care what they have to say about Google. I think this is about something about Android and bundling the apps in Android and stuff like that. It's just so corrupt and so horrible and evil and disgusting. And the only thing is it's good that the US hasn't gone after Google yet. But it's just a matter of time before they do. I guess it's just this one that is too busy with Time Warner buying. What are they buying? Jonathan, remind me. AT&T? Time Warner? AT&T? No, AT&T buying Time Warner, right? Too busy with that deal because who knows why they believe that that is an antitrust violation. But this kind of fine is just so authoritarian in nature. And it is really horrible. Should Google shrug? I mean, yeah. I mean, if Google shrugged, the world would change in dramatic ways. But if it shrugs there, then it's going to shrug in other places as well. It's going to have to shrug across the world. Now, it's already shrugged. For Google's credit, it shrugged basically in China. It would not play ball with the Chinese. And as a consequence, Google is banned in China. And it's given up a big chunk of the world. Could Google do the same thing in Europe? You would have to look at the business case. But yes, morally, that would be amazing if they did it. But then to be successful at that, they would have to be consistent then in shrugging when the US government went after them. And I think it's just a matter of time before the US government goes after Google and Apple and Facebook. Facebook, you've already seen the beginnings of that. And will they do it more consistently? And it's a very difficult decision if you're a manager, particularly of a publicly traded company. Because as a publicly traded company, your fiduciary responsibility is to shareholders. And how do you calculate whether paying the fine or shrugging is better for your shareholders? Now, we know long-term philosophically it's better for your shareholders, but they don't care, they're there for the money. And you have to do a financial calculating. So look, the whole idea of shrugging is a very, very, very difficult proposition. And think about the shrugging in Atlas Shrugged. When the business is shrugged in Atlas Shrugged, they don't just shrug. They don't just stop working in Europe. They stop working. And they go to a valley and they have a life. And on top of that, they are working to ultimately change the world. So the whole goal is ultimately to come back into the world and change it. So just shrugging in one market without it being a moral shrug, without it being clear what your agenda is, without it being clear what the purpose is, that's a financial calculation. Now it's not a moral issue because is Google in a position to come out and say, I'm shrugging because I will not sanction my destroyer? If Google could do that, then they should shrug. But I don't think they can. So it really should be a financial calculation because they don't have the philosophical context to really shrug properly. There's a good lecture that Greg Salamiere gave about when to shrug. It's on the Ironman Institute. I'm pretty sure it's on the Ironman Institute YouTube channel. Greg Salamiere, something shrug. Can't remember the exact name of the talk. Maybe somebody on the chat here knows what it is and can tell us. But I would recommend you go listen to that because I think that'll have a lot more content about it. But I think if you're going to shrug, it has to be you have to know why you're doing it and you have to know what you're doing it for. It can't just be I don't like what the European Union is doing. If they don't penalize me a billion dollars, I wouldn't shrug, but $5 billion, that's over the top. No, it has to be a moral statement. And therefore, you are willing to shrug no matter what the fine would be. But for it to be a moral statement, I don't think Google is in a position to make that kind of moral statement.