 Welcome to ToffyTV, it's a daily extra here on Patron, Patron Exclusive, it is, Gangsigns, Patron Gangsigns, that's what Deli Alley had to do wasn't he, anyway yeah, so yesterday we reported in the news that it seems like Everton are very keen to keep hold of Andre aren't we all? We are but do you think or do you think there's anything in them revealing that right now because normally you know football club likes like they like to keep their cards close to their chest they don't like to reveal too much about you know we say it all the time if you've got someone on loan or someone is out on loan no one really makes a statement about it they'll go we'll see what where we are and we'll do this and we'll do that and what we like them as a player but it's too early do you think what Brands and Silver said paves the way for a payment deal because maybe what they said is what the player wants yeah okay thanks for watching now I think there's did you make me tea? I made you tea because you've had three coffees and you're a bit flushed there you go um I think it's just because you've been up so early that's what it is for you I think there's more to it than because it's very very easy for Marco Silver when he's asked to turn around and go it's it's cheers Tom it's uh it's so early in this deal you know well it will look at that in April or May and see what happens it would have been easy to bat it off he didn't have to even even field the question really he could have just give the bulk standard answer and moved it along so the fact that he's took it on and said it's something we need to do in the right moment it's something we're looking to do it's not even January so the fact it's getting talked about in November yeah and the lads played six games kind of makes you think this is something that the player is pushing as well. Brands I don't know where Brands was asked this question but he was asked by Spanish Jainist but I don't know where because he hasn't been anywhere so maybe the Spanish Jainist was at Gullison and asked him I don't know I don't know I don't know unless he was in Spain I still don't I don't know where he'd be though that's the thing I like to know where he is so he was basically asked and his answer was it's up to the player that was his answer right his answer was it's up to the player in other words we won him we didn't say it's up to the player and if Barca wanted to sell he said it's up to the player so you take from that the club won him Barca are willing to sell and it will leave it on the player Silver comes out and says basically you know we like the player we want the player I just think I mean I suppose you can look at it two ways because if you you might I suppose if you want to you might could say that they're just trying to start the process to butter the player up and make sure that it's known that everything really what I mean because there's there's there's doing it in private but then there's doing it in public and there's getting that grounds well and it's getting the fans to almost buy into it and say listen you know you want this lot to stay make him feel like he's at home and there's there's normally always a calculated reason Marcel Brands would not give a I know he's Dutch and Dutch people just say literally what they want literally but you get the feeling there is a calculated reason not saying there is I'm just saying you get the feeling there's a calculated reason why both of these both of these quotes have come out because if someone asks you a question you don't need to answer it like you just you give the stock answer you're not alone we're enjoying them we'll see what happens at the end of the season but I just think it went a little bit further than that I agree it's very similar to when roms here and the noisier started coming out about November December that we wanted to buy him permanently and he was open to it and that was exactly what happened there but then tried to buy him in January and Chelsea were over an hour and he didn't really want to sell his marino I think wasn't it at the time didn't really want to sell him it was like let's wait and see and we had to just buy that time I think this seemed very very similar because Marco Silver's very good at just going this is happening and we'll see what happens especially on Marcel Brands it's like well now or yeah so the fact because I suppose if it would have been easy for Marcel Brands to say we've got a deal in place for the season and we're going to look if things carry on we're going to look in April and May and speak to Barca the fact he's like we want to try and get it done me kind of makes me think that they may try and get it done in January or at least put an agreement in place