 Hey guys, you're listening to the time of football podcast and we're gonna be joined by a special guest today to recap everything That happened in the 2018 offseason What an amazing offseason so far that has happened and not much is going on right now just because it's post draft period But today's a special day Just so you guys know there's that are listening to this podcast and watching on YouTube as well Time to football the trademark The the whole word the word time to football got trademarked today, so Legally if anyone tries to use time to football I can sue them watch out Yeah, I actually had an whole ordeal took six months to get that trademarked and How to go through the whole trademark process and crazy someone stole my username on Instagram time of football It was just one account that had one post Inactive and I tried reaching out to them. Hey, can you change it? Can you change it? Never change it. So finally today. Yeah, I acquired that username and it feels so good Feels wonderful. Gotta feel good man. Thank you for joining us for this podcast. My name is Assad Khan Like I said nothing much really going on in the offseason right now But we are gonna talk about everything that happened so far and today We are joined by this gentleman that is sitting right across from me and that is Griffin gamble so ladies and gentlemen if you don't know who Griffin is if you keep up with some football You know exactly who he is He was in the Madden tournament and we didn't Put this up on YouTube last year But next year we're gonna have a whole fancy football documentary. Yes based off of our town football league Griffin was actually the champ last year Griffin. Who is on your team? Do you remember? Man, Todd Gurley was was kind of who brought me home. So I have to give a shout out to Todd Dude long awaited Good to be here. Yeah, I'm finally doing it. I know we've both been looking forward to this I've been following you for a while. So I'm excited to chop it up get into the to the weeds of it. Definitely. This is gonna be lots of fun Yeah, to talk about it. What's going on big things that we want to talk about were Quarterbacks on new teams. Yeah, um, what what are some teams that you're looking forward to seeing? play in 2018 New quarterbacks on new teams, which guys are you looking forward to seeing? Yeah, I mean, you know, I think I think the story the offseason was the quarterback the movement, right? And I know we talked offline a little bit and and I think it's my philosophy that It's a quarterback driven league and I think everything is sort of built on these teams Trying to find the guy We see it year after year. They're sort of those teams that are always scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to get the guy in the draft But really, you know, I think this offseason was interesting. Everybody knows Kirk Cousins was available And so that was really kind of the first dominant of fall, right? And it's interesting because there's never a quarterback really in their prime Who's really kind of an upper tier guy that's available, right and who's willing to leave their team And so I think that was kind of I was really excited. I'm a big Kirk Cousins fan And so I was I was excited to see what would happen Surprisingly enough a domino a couple of dominoes fell kind of leading up to the Kirk Cousins, you know moved to Minnesota We obviously saw the trade we saw Alex Smith Head into the Redskins and then we saw a case Canem obviously signing with the Broncos before Kirk decided to go So yeah, man, I mean a lot of movement A lot of things getting shaken up. I'm excited to watch Kirk do his thing in Minnesota I think the expectations are high, right? Yeah, I mean, I really I don't want to put too much pressure on them But I think it's Superbowler bust at some level. I mean, he's walking into an incredible defense He's my team that was in the Superbowl last year a great offense I don't know if you could ask for anything else, right? And I think you know, I was kind of wanting him to go to New York Selfishly just to kind of see the jets get somebody. Yeah, because it's been tough to watch them I kind of pull for the underdogs. I think in the NFL at least so I don't know man It's it's gonna be interesting to watch Kirk. He's got the weapons. So I think that he really kind of You know set the foundation for the other moves. Yeah, so speaking of the domino effect Alex Smith Got traded to the Redskins. That's when Kirk found out he's gonna be a free agent Do you think that the Redskins actually legitimately got better with Alex Smith as opposed to Kirk Cousins? Yeah, I mean, it's tough I struggle with this move a little bit and again I think this just goes to show how fearful teams are of not having somebody right and that kind of makes me wonder Okay, what teams are really trying to win and what teams are just trying to kind of stay afloat Obviously they want to they want to sell tickets. They want to be relevant It's hard to say man. I I'm a Kirk Cousins guy, right and I like Kirk. He's younger. I think he's got a little bit of better arm I think he's got a little more fire in him. Alex Smith is Mr. Consistency. I mean, everyone knows that I Think they may have gotten a little bit better just from a game management standpoint I think they're gonna be able to control Alex a little bit better than they were able to control Kirk I don't I think there was some friction there more than we probably saw more than that was let on But yeah, man, I think if anything they they may have gotten marginally better, but it's it's it's not by much But what are some other teams that have new quarterbacks you're looking forward to see? Yeah, I mean, you know, Broncos are gonna be interesting We kind of touched on them amazing defense so, you know They're not they're kind of lower on my list. I think the Jets are really interesting. Obviously, you know, Sam Donald I thought the Jets won the draft You know as much as I wanted them to go all in for Kirk, you know, they made a really strong offer But I think is you know, his heart was in Minnesota, but I Think they got incredible value at number three with Sam. I don't think they can be mad at that I'm really hoping he gets to get in there pretty early. I think he's got some good vets around him I like Josh McCallan. Yeah, gonna be interesting to see what Teddy does in the mix And you know, maybe Sam's a guy they stashed for a couple years and let him mature and and get in there when he's ready But I think that's a really interesting storyline to watch. I think the bills are interesting I think the Browns are probably You know up there with the Vikings to see what's gonna go down You know, I was reading a little bit yesterday You know just to see how Baker's progressing, you know, I think I think they say, you know Baker's got the personality to be a leader But Tyrod is really solid right now. And so I think they're gonna have a tough choice to make You know, who do we roll with right now? Yeah And so I don't know man thoughts on Baker at this point Well, I'm gonna go ahead and give thoughts on on the whole entire rookie quarterback class at least the top five I would say out of all of them Sam Dornone has the most opportunity to start all 16 games I Believe in New York, that's what they're gonna do even though maybe Josh McCallan's more polished They're gonna take that approach to that Oakland did with Derek Carr that Tennessee did with Marcus Mariota that Philadelphia did with Carson Wentz Even Atlanta doing with Matt Ryan Cincinnati with Andy Dalton like there's so many teams that Approach it to where you got a first round second round pick You Make them start all six in games their rookie season and then they just flourish. Yeah, they're they're second year first year isn't you know Whatever, but they're second year. They really take off. We saw that with Carson Wentz this past year But I think Baker Mayfield is Man, I unless Tyrod gets hurt or If the Browns are in a position where towards the end of the season, they can't like they're eliminated from playoff contention Yeah Then maybe we'll see Baker Mayfield come in but I think yeah Tyrod is their guy for now Yeah, may feel my playing probably two or three games this year What do you what do you make of the Baker Johnny Manziel comparison? man, it's Can I say this that Baker is a sober Johnny Manziel? Maybe I'll cut that out. That was pretty bad. No proud of Johnny and what he's doing with the CFL. Yeah, um, I See it as far as their body type goes Johnny seems a little bit skinnier, but They definitely have personality both of them do And I thought if if Manziel stayed in Cleveland, he would have He would have been pretty solid. He had some solid games You know, he actually holds the franchise record for passing yards in a single game. Is that right? Mm-hmm 373 So If there are any comparisons between the two if Johnny Manziel does that in Cleveland With all the behind-the-scenes stuff that he's been struggling with what can Baker do, right? You know, yeah, I mean part of me wants to believe that Baker is has got the support system around him You know, I almost think that he's probably watched what John what happened to Johnny and his kind of you know People have gotten around and said look, you know, I think you've got a chance to do something here And you don't want to be what you know do what this guy did, right? Right? And I don't know I'm torn on Baker just because he's small Mm-hmm. I Don't I'm not a fan of the small QB's Okay, and Russell Wilson. I know and I thought about Russell before we started this Something about Russell's build and his hands. He just has big hands. Yes, you know what I mean Like those those guys that get out there and that's one of my pet peeves like, you know Rex Grossman those those kind of guys. They just had small hands That's the hottest take of this whole podcast small hands small hands football games But they say about small hands exactly can't throw footballs. That's small balls dude cut it out But um, so yeah, man, I don't know I I don't know it's gonna be interesting to watch You know, I thought Josh Allen was the guy in the draft I Think it was I was torn between Sam and Josh. I love Josh's build I know Sam's not the biggest guy in the world But man, he just throws the ball so well What what other teams are there is that all you guys far as quarterbacks What do you think of actually Lamar Jackson as we're talking about working quarterbacks him in Baltimore? I think the people want it to work really bad. I don't know if it's gonna work You nailed it. You read my mind, but continue. I think people really want it to work I don't know again. I'm I'm I'm more of your prototypical quarterback kind of guy I don't see I think Lamar's got a lot of talent. He's an incredible athlete I could kind of see him being a Terrell prior 2.0 eventually. I don't know if I'm confused with with with with Baltimore because I don't know what the rush is to get Joe out of out of town. I Thought I was sort of new to me. I mean, he's won a Super Bowl, right? He's got an incredible You know system I think he's got the coach. I think he's proven that he can be successful I think they've got some really I think it's gonna be exciting watching getting Crabtree in there Well, the Super Bowl six years ago. Yeah Maybe kind of write your future I would say if you get a Super Bowl But I mean, I don't know it maybe they feel like the pressure is on a little bit Maybe he feels the pressure Maybe it's just to get that next guy, you know I kind of always like to compare him to Matt Ryan because they came in the same year Right watching with how they progress. We don't see that pressure on Matt obviously Matt doesn't have a Super Bowl Obviously, he's got the Super Bowl visit last year, but it's interesting man I think even more so what's interesting for me is and I don't know if you think this but just A rookie quarterback conversation every year is really interesting to me And I guess my perspective is changing a little bit because I've been so anti quarterback Right like I've been so anti these teams that just wait and draft a guy every year after year after year Yeah, don't make an aggressive move to go get a veteran And then I'm like well, it's got to be super hard to even put yourself in a position to get a veteran That's willing to leave a team But I think after last season watching Carson watching Carson and Jared golf really blossom has changed my perspective a little bit So I want to know your thoughts kind of on on the philosophy of taking quarterback high first round Versus kind of finding those second third fifth round gyms And if you're a team like the Jets if you're a team like, you know the Bears How do you find the middle ground and you know taking a risk after year after year and maybe trying to fall into something As it with a veteran. Yeah, and every team is different I think it just depends on what situation you are if you need a quarterback right now, obviously first round But if you're in a situation Maybe it's someone like the New England Patriots and they're drafting to Just be ready for Tom Brady and and the inevitable when he retires Drafting someone like Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round That'll be a game changer. Yeah, even to a lesser degree You go with the Seattle Seahawks in 2012 when they drafted Russell Wilson They drafted him in the third round right because they signed actually Matt Flynn And I don't know if you remember him not but play like five or six games and it went off right son three year ten million dollar contract with them and They went into that 2012 season being like, okay, Matt Flynn is gonna be our guy But then it wasn't until the preseason where they're like, wow, we what did we come across this guy Russell Wilson? This felt he fell to us in the third round Right. Um, so I think it just definitely depends on the situation that you're in But yeah for teams like the Jets Cleveland for so many years you take risks on all these guys that didn't work out like Brady Quinn, right Brandon Whedon So many of these guys What do you think about the teams that give up their future for a guy? And then the next year there's gonna be three more guys Right like that's what I have a problem with these teams that give up so many so many picks Maybe a really good player just to get this guy who's touted to be the next, you know Whatever Drew Brees and then it seems like there's we're having the same conversation come draft time next year There's always that crop of guys. Yeah, and and maybe it Last for a little bit of time maybe like two or three years like I did with RG three The Redskins gave up a lot way too much to trade with the Rams right up to the second pick But then you also look at maybe someone like the New York Giants Back in 2004 when they drafted Eli Manning they traded actually a lot They drafted Phillip Rivers traded him to San Diego But also eventual picks that led to Pro Bowl caliber players like their kicker Nate Cading or Shawn Merriman So it does work out But it also doesn't I think you got to be very very particular in that if I was a journal manager I'd be very cautious in that kind of case. Yeah, I wouldn't do something like that Just because I'm that kind of guy where yeah, the quarterback position is important, but it's not everything, right? That's why in this draft. I was thinking well Cleveland they could have gotten someone like sick one Barkley a number one and then still got in Baker Mayfield at number four So I'm more of like a You know you want a good quarterback But you don't have to have the best quarterback as long as you have a good team around him for sure And I think that's what teams like Cleveland is doing with Tyrone Taylor not the best quarterback out there the Jaguars the Jaguars Yeah, so teams like that if you just build around them You don't you could find some gems in the second or third round You know another team that really sticks out to me just in the quarterback conversation And I'm glad I've waited to bring this up But I think the team that got the best quarterback this offseason of the Cardinals Hmm. Yeah, I think Sam Bradford was the steal of the whole quarterback shuffle. He's really polished over the years Yeah, and I mean it the only knock against him is his health, right? I mean he played he started two games last season. I think And I think he had a quarterback rating of like 125 or something First two games crazy and I was really excited to see him kind of fully healthy Yeah, I mean I think you can make the argument that Sam is you know a top five passer in the league when he's healthy Accuracy, I think is there. I think he's brilliant I like his size. I like his arm strength. So I think the Cardinals got really lucky I'm gonna be it's you know, obviously I think if he has a fully healthy ear He's gonna get a massive contract out of that. Yeah, it's funny It's funny to me because the Cardinals kind of fell into Carson Palmer now They've fallen into Sam Bradford and they continue to remain relevant with this aging group of players You know, I think the Cardinals are gonna be fun to watch man I think I think Sam Bradford was was a steal talking a little bit about spider-two-wide banana Good old Chuckie, what are your thoughts on him going to the Raiders? Man, I'm a big Gruden fan Man, I almost want to do an impression, but I'm gonna hold back I kind of feel like we're in a quarterback camp right now So much of the league is about energy, I think it's about team morale, right? It's I don't know if a coach has that much impact X's and O's Mm-hmm. I think coaches can develop really good systems and have a lot of good pieces in place I think you know, you know Bill Belichick is probably the best example of that You know coaches like Andy Reed who really develop systems the Harbaugh's and and get people in place guys That'll ride with them for a long time But I don't know if bringing a coach in who's very skilled Makes a team of contender in year one, right? I don't know if it's that much of an impact and I'm a big NBA fan, too I kind of liken it to that obviously I think the The coaching process is probably more important in football than basketball But at the end of the day if you don't have the players I think you got it. You got you know the guys have to go make it happen. Yeah, so with that being said I love the Gruden move. I think it's exciting. I think he's a players coach I think the players respect him. I think you got his guy in Derek Carr, you know, I've been one I Was wanting Gruden to go to Green Bay for a long time I Think he was kind of hope holding out for McCarthy to move on so he could kind of wedge himself in there to get With Aaron Rodgers. We all know he's got he's got a crush on Aaron Rodgers But man, I like it. I think it's exciting for for Las Vegas You know, I really am excited to see what A couple of questionable moves getting some older guys in there getting Jordy getting Jordy in there Yeah, going for Doug Martin trying to establish the bet. I mean, I've got more Sean it's gonna be interesting to see if the aging backfield can do but If the aging backfield can hang can hang in there, but I'm excited. What are your thoughts? But also bringing in more Tavis Brian who's a little bit younger. Yes, I mean he's a stud, which is pretty great um, I really love John Gruden, um, I Know that He's been wanting to coach for a little bit even though he says that you know, yes, PN is my job, right? Well, I don't believe him because now he's a coach and signing him to a 10-year deal like you said First year, maybe you don't make that kind of impact Yeah, but that's why he's time for that 10-year deal because you're gonna see over the time Yeah, he needs pieces around him He needs his guys and he's gonna slowly weed out the guys that he doesn't want We're seeing that all around the league coaches do that all the time For instance, maybe in like Miami with Adam Gase. He's getting rid of his guys Like the Dom Kong Sue which you say like, well, why are you getting rid of some of that caliber? Well, that's not his guy. It doesn't fit who he wants to play with right Which isn't necessarily a bad thing But I think over time. Yeah Gruden is gonna go ahead and Make those moves Maybe just for now Like we talked about Sam Bradford being a bridge quarterback Maybe bringing in veterans just be the bridge players like Jordy Nelson or Doug Martin But who knows maybe two three years down the line when they actually do play in Las Vegas Gruden is gonna be a force in a contender in the AFC West Yeah, I think Gruden brings a lot of intangibles to you know, I think that's the point I'm trying to make is that I think Gruden brings in a lot of stuff that a normal coach wouldn't I think his personality his reputation People you know, he's a magnetic personality people like him I think the players will gravitate towards him and want to win for him, right? Just because I don't think he has an agenda. I think he's just going in there to win football games I liked what he said when he got signed, you know, it's an absurd amount of money Nobody needs that much money. He's not there for the money and I think he said in his presser You know if it sees him one and two they suck He's out of there, right? He's not just gonna stick around and run him dry for all that money. So I like that I think his intentions are right So with that being said, I think he can make an impact year one just because of what he brings to the table Some of those intangibles. So and I think it's Derek Carr's team, you know I think he there's no way he was not gonna go to one of these teams rebuilding just doesn't make any sense You know, we see these we see these teams that turnover coaches year after year because the quarterback suck So I really like that that he's going to a team with an established quarterback I think their offense is gonna be so good even with some of those older players. You said Martave is coming in. I love it I think that the offense is gonna be is gonna be good enough to kind of float the team And if he gets a good, you know, if his if his defensive coordinator can handle, you know the defense then I think they're gonna be pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing it as well And we're gonna get more into a couple more topics here in the town football podcast But I would just want to take a moment To tell you guys about patreon. 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Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me And you know what I'm what I'm waiting for is to see where Desbrae's gonna land And I'm cursed dude I'm cursed because I just love aging superstars in in all sports right and so I'm the guy that will take Matt Forte number one overall. I'm still gonna do it this year. Interesting. I don't think he's on a team But I'll take him. He's retired. I'm taking him. You heard it here. So man, I'm a big Des fan I just loved it. I love big personality players guys that that you know are superstars And no Des has had a has had a rough past couple years, but It's interesting to me man. I 29 years old. He's still in the twilight of his prime. I still think he can produce I think he's an elite athlete I Pardon me wonders. Obviously, we know that he He curved the the Baltimore offer, which I thought was a solid offer was I don't blame him for not wanting to go to Baltimore for obvious reasons. I think you know, obviously we touched on flakko earlier And I think they're a little crowded, you know now getting Crabtree So I think they're good where they are. I'm not knocking flakko I just think they're I don't know if they need Dez I don't I don't I think he's going to somewhere where he could kind of prove I'm almost wondering, you know, I think there were some reports that does thought he was kind of worth a lot more than 7 million a year He was looking for a place where he could go play for one year have a really good contract here And then I don't know man. It's not like 30 year old receivers are getting 30 million dollar contracts, right? So I think that's probably on him a little bit in hindsight. I think he probably wishes he took that deal It just I get this feeling that there's something going on here that that we don't know. I don't know if it's a health problem I don't know if it's You know, I don't know. I don't know if there's a lot of teams going after him and they're just kind of keeping it under wraps You know, I think I think after seeing the draft play out a lot of a lot of these teams that we're needing receivers got their guys in the draft and so Now Dez is just kind of left out so It's gonna be interesting to see what happens man. I've got a short list of teams that I'd like to see him go to go to Yeah, I think the Packers would be I think they're a no-brainer. Yeah, I mean if I I love what they did bring in Jimmy Graham, I think Devontae Adams is a top five receiver in the league I think he could be the most productive receiver in the league next year I think you throw a Des in there just to watch what Aaron could do with those three guys would be fun I think the Chargers are interesting And I think the Rams are interesting. I think I would love to go see him I'd love to see him out out there with Brandon Cooks Young Jared Goff Gunslinger man at good market for him popular team. I think it'd be cool. So I think that's interesting, man So it's gonna be fun to see where he lands. Yeah, I He does one-on-one your deal and now it's the same thing. Well, you're 30 years old in 2019 Who's gonna sign you for so much money? You know, I To how it's turned out right now, I think in the end. Yeah, he should have signed with the Ravens multi-year deal Lot of security a lot of security. Yeah, absolutely. Now. He's gonna get a one-year deal somewhere Yeah, which is exactly what he wants But it's not gonna be for so much money because people have already passed on on the tent on the draft We've already signed their own free agents that they want to fit the system They're already an OTA is trying to figure out where all these players fit in their system So We'll see though, but Griff I appreciate you joining us for this podcast one last thing Before we sign off. I always ask every single guest on this show. Yes What their favorite moment is in football whether it be college football. Yep, or professional football. Yes. Got a favorite moment This is a tough one because as you know, I'm a late. I'm I was a late bloomer in football, you know I'm a I grew up watching basketball primarily and so I you know, I'm in love with the NFL now I love, you know, the business of the league and I'm a huge fan now But I kind of missed a lot of those football moments growing up One that sticks out to me is the Odell catch. I think it's probably the most excited. I've been watching a game I remember in my living room watching the game with my dad and watching that happen I mean it was electric, you know, I was as shocked when it happened as the replays Showed, you know, sometimes a play will happen and it takes a couple days for you to realize how crazy it was There was no mistake in that that was like the greatest catch of all time. Yeah, and to watch, you know, while we're you know Fairly young player that's young a player that's gonna be around I think a transcendent player watch him make that play live on TV was cool for me I think that's what the league's about those moments. Yeah, and I think that was You know a play that's kind of helped me Grow grow in football and appreciate it more. It's crazy. I was watching that live as well And when I saw that I was like no way. Yeah, this guy Had a defender. Yeah, that was pulling on his jersey. It was obviously passing interference Yep, bends all the way back grabs it with three fingers crazy 50 yard pass phenomenal touchdown Definitely a great moment in the NFL Griffin I appreciate you joining our show. Yeah for you guys. Thank you so much for Joining us if you're on the podcast Make sure you guys go rate and review That lets us know. Hey, you guys like the content that we're coming out with you guys have been good so far with it But just keep it up Share it with your friends And if you guys are watching this video on YouTube just know that we do have a podcast on itunes So might be a little bit easier than watching a 40-something minute video on YouTube You can just go to itunes search for time to football. 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