 Hey, hey everybody joining us Tony Gaskins here, and I'm here with another one of our coaches from my mentor dot life And she's building her business building her brand as a coach. Her name is Carmen Nesbitt Carmen, how you doing today? I'm doing fine, Sonya. How are you? Awesome. Awesome. I thank you for joining me and I know this could be You know kind of tough if you don't always do interviews Do you this your first zoom interview? Yes first ever. Yes Awesome, awesome. That's good. Well, I'm glad this could be a first for you and you know that that right there in itself is a lesson to aspiring coaches that You have the step you're getting out of your comfort zone. You already coach on one-on-one But this your first zoom interview so it's like a lot of times I know people look and they say oh Carmen. She's a coach and she on this site my mentor dot life And she getting booked for session. She already must be this superstar expert, you know And now you stepping out of your comfort zone again to just share your journey with others And so the first question I want to ask you is how long have you been coaching? professionally Like being paid and getting paid so believe it or not Tony Your site is the first site that I ever been on Your site is when and how I started getting paid from coaching now You want to go like back before I started getting paid? I can go there, but it's up to you. I See, wow. Okay. Well, that's great to know and That's another thing that you know, I'm curious about as I see coaches on my mentor dot life I'm always curious if you was already up and running and then saw my mentor dot life and join or if the site is helping launch Professional coaching career. So that's good to hear now The backstory how long do you feel you've been speaking in people's life and you know supporting? people as like a sister mentor type person So Tony, um It's it's crazy you asked that but guy has been using me from for many years all the way from a child all the way to adulthood and I didn't know that he was using me because a lot of times through my years I wasn't living to according to how I wanted me to live And I'm like, you know, how's he using me to speak into these people's life and I got mess going on But gosh on me. You don't tell me how and what to use you So how it started was like things that I would go through in life I would just talk to my friends about it thinks that nature and I'm a real I get along with a lot of people I'm like a people person. So when I meet people people feel welcome into talking to me they just happen from there and then now I want to say since like 2017 I'm Entrepreneur I started my own business to where I take people that don't have cars to work So I start off like three o'clock in the morning till like 12 p.m. And I'm taking people to work people that I don't know never seen a day of my life and It's times that they are in the car crying and telling me their stories and sometimes I'm crying and a lot of times I'm praying and you know, just turning them like we all is on this life journey Nobody knows the instructions to life, but the Bible, you know, I'm saying and we have to go to God's word But I also let them know like yeah, we know the guys By with the instruction to life, but we can also Use our testimonies to help others because a lot of people are afraid to tell that testimony But for me, I'm not that way and I do that because people are going through things in life And they don't have nobody to talk to you know, so that's how it started. So every day I'm getting up doing my little side hustle I'm talking to people. I'm helping them in ways that I can and it's it's amazing and then What happened was how I ended up to your site God put me to your site. Okay. I was going through whatever I was going through like trials and tribulations And God was getting me through And I kept questioning God. I was like God, why do you keep having me speaking to these people and you still ain't done with me? You know, I want to wait until you done with me. Then I'll get to the people God said baby I ain't never gonna be done with you. I'm gonna be molding you every day of your life So my friend she was telling me like, um, you know, I think you'll be a good motivational speaker and I'm like, no I don't want to do that So during my time and I was fasting And I was humbly Violent to God in doing whatever he asked me to do And one day I was watching you and just laughing through the whole video And then you said something about my mentor to our life And then I was like, I wrote it down in my notes I'm like, okay. Maybe I think about doing it. Then my friend was like, you should just go ahead and do it. I'm like I want to wait until God have me perfect and God kept saying I'm going to continue to keep molding you. So do as I say So I did it And it's it's been amazing Tony It's been amazing. Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing to hear and I'm glad that you jumped out there And I saw you on the site and um You were on the home page when I first saw you Did you write in and request to be on the home page? No, and when I seen it, I was like, what am I doing on the home page? What's going on here? So so I'll be honest with you It it was like a glitch in the system, but I guess it was God I guess it had to be God because you know, I Authorize who goes on the home page and I had never authorized you to be on the home page And it's crazy because I have a quote that says God don't need anybody's permission to bless you so You ended up on the home page without my authorization. And so when I saw you I was like, okay, just leave it up. Thank you lord Yeah, I say, okay. Yeah, just leave it there And then so we alternate the coaches on the home page now We try to do it like every month even every week So it just kind of rotates but at the time that you ended up on the home page We weren't alternating the coaches So you were there for a good amount of time and it probably just keeps circling around But I say that to say it's interesting me because of what you said about just your journey and just you stepping out on faith And you believe in now your first client that you coached through my mentor dot live You know, how was your feeling and how Was the session was you super nervous? Did it turn out okay? Did you bomb it? So because I was just so used to doing it on a regular day Just to like normal people and going on a site And look at people that was different from me. So I was very nervous Listen, Tony. I had like a hundred questions. I'm going Eggs All that but then when I got on the phone with the person where for one, I pray I pray before all of my sessions because I want God to come through on these sessions. I want God to handle it all So I pray before I got on the session. It's got to give me the words to say, you know, use me And I'll put those questions to the side and it just happens so naturally You know, it was it just happened naturally, you know, to be honest by time I got the phone with her. She had Wanted me to book with another family member, you know, and a lot of times they get emotional and stuff But it it wasn't good, but I was I was scared at first. But then when I got on the phone, I was it was fine. I was like, it was a breeze Wow, that's awesome. So That means that you are a natural you're a natural at it and Now I used to when I started coaching I was not that good because I was just talk talk talk So it sounds like you've already learned to ask questions and to listen And then speak when it's appropriate to you know, drop a little question or a nugget of wisdom that you already have that flow So, yes, how I started I let them talk first, you know, I asked them a few questions, you know Like the name how old they are do they have children things of that nature little simple stuff? And then I get them the floor and I let them talk and then I respond Right, I see I see So You you say you start working on your other get your other stream of income driving people to work you start doing that at 3 a.m Yeah, because you have people so you I live I know you ain't asking yet, but I live in Detroit So we have a lot of factories here And people want to work two three o'clock in the morning So I start my shift for that job at 3 a.m And start taking people to work because factories Now you driving just your you driving a car My vehicle. Yes. Yes Wow, okay. Now If you wanted to get you like a 12 passenger van and pick up A lot of people that's going to the same factory Could you do that or would you have to get like a special transportation license in Detroit? So I won't have to get no type of license But I do have a few clients to where their friends come into my vehicle to go to the same place but a lot of times like People not gonna want to feel like they on a bus and they got a way to this person get dropped off That person get dropped off So when I get to depending on the factory and they have like a lot of people this a lot of my clients They come at the same time Then I'll take them to work by themselves Right. I see I see and so coaching you um What made you want to become a coach like a professional coach like, you know really start Doing it seriously. What made you want to do that? Like I told you it was God. It was not in my plans. It was not my plans to do it It was God and it was like You know, I'm out here talking to people out in the regular world, you know What is it going to hurt for God to use me to touch other people? And that's what I did. I was being obedient, you know to God, but it was not It was not my idea Wow, so you kind of just stumbled upon it and and it started working out you got favor out the gate You know, so you you come out of the gate I don't recall ever talking to you personally So what you bumped into me some kind of way had we ever spoke personally like on a coaching session or at an event or in an email Tony I have never met you a day of my life Never I met you through the website. I've never seen you never met you Yeah, but I took some of your classes though a lot of your courses Okay, okay. Well Wow, so you just came out and now that that right there is something because some some of the coaches that I see I have seen them before I or I've met them at an event But for you to come and take the course to get on the site And then get featured on the site by you know happenstance by you know God's intervention and then start getting booked on the site That right there that you know, what kind of feeling does it give you? Like when you see how it's working out and how how it's happening. What kind of feeling does it give you? or is it like shocky humbling It's humbling but I also I would say it's a god like god. What is you doing? Like I was not expecting none of this, you know, I was not expecting an email from you I was not expecting Nobody to contact me to be honest. I'm gonna tell you sometime I know you ain't asking this but I'm gonna just put it out there So when I was signing up for it, I was like, okay, this is 20 dollars, you know You know, I'm like, okay. I can use this 20 dollars for this I can use this 20 hours for that Like no, I'm not gonna do this because it's 20. That's to go towards this And I'm like, no, I I can't afford it right now And god said listen You ain't gonna be no broker than what you is From that 20 dollars. So go and pay that 20 dollars. So I paid that 20 dollars And I told god I said god If you give me one person To cover my 20 dollars To spread your word I will be perfectly fine with it. Just one person to cover that 20 dollars for that month Tony I cannot count how many times I got that 20 dollars in one day That 20 dollars in one day and I just wanted to I said god, I just want to touch one person I just want to help one person that month to cover that and I'm fine I can't count how many times in one day In one day Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. That is something everybody watching this You can book a session with karmine. You hear her heart You could click the link in the description It'll take you to her page if you want to talk to her and just feel her spirit and hear more about her journey Because your journey may be similar You can book a session with her the link is in the description karmine. That is something that is that is it's really that's It lets me know and I always say this. I don't believe in coincidence. I only believe in the evidence that god sits high and looks low and A lot of time people don't believe but when you see stuff fall into place like that right there, you know that that If if you were struggling with your belief, that'll make you go ahead and all right lord. I know you're real Because I was like I ain't spending this 20 dollars. I was like, you know, I just can go to work somewhere Listen god god is amazing. It's nothing god orchestrated things. Like you said, you don't believe in coincidence I don't even none of this. I didn't play none of this god did all of this that me being here on this interview me being taking sessions And getting paid for it. It's all god's doing and it's a blessing Amazing and you know what I was um I was now when you got on my mentor and you first started out On there when you signed up, what did you make your coaching rate? Like what did you say? I'm on a charge I started out with the lowest was 25 dollars an hour. Wow. Okay. That's good. That's good. That's smart It's very humbling and that's the perfect place. I tell people that all the time don't be afraid to start there And just climb because it's like when you look at it You're doing what you love to do and you live in your purpose and you're doing something that you're passionate about And it's not like you've got to try to break the bank off of one client The other thing that you confirmed in my spirit Is what I heard when I was creating the site Is when I was creating the site the developers Who were coding the site building the site On the sign up page where coaches sign up. They had it set at 200 they had it set at $250 a month Because they were thinking So now if it was if you went and seen that 250 What you would have said Listen, I was complaining about $20. Okay, Tony and I shouldn't even been complaining I I had no business complaining about that 20. That's because it's it's nothing. We spend that on junk food or A shirt a t-shirt we spending on things is not even important don't even matter But to pay $20 a month To let God use me to help people through this life journey Is is is nothing. No, you can't put no price on that. You cannot You said the key words right there is really priceless but me being a coach and me coming from you know that situation of Like we go through everybody goes through being scarcity minded, you know And we all go through that and I see even with the certification, you know Some people they'll say like oh, you know, I thought it was gonna be 800 but now it's 850 and and I will and they really would be hung up On that $50 And and I'm thinking like man if they only knew what'll happen when they stretch their mind and not just look at The price but look at the opportunity and look at the purpose And that's what you coach yourself through because the reason why I made it 1999 is because I know As a successful entrepreneur There have been times in my life that I got tired of seeing a four dollar and 99 cent monthly charge on my statement So I would like hey, I know people you just wake up on the wrong side of the bed one day I'm canceling this, you know, I knew it So I'm glad you joined and are you glad that you went ahead and took that step You know, if you could do it all over again, would you would you make the same decision? I would and also I took your other courses that's more than 20 dollars. I think I believe I took At least four of your courses, but outside of your courses, you know I have some other people I follow and I took some of their courses at the end of the day Is for your life, you know Either you want to grow and evolve or you want to stay stuck where you at And you know for me as an adult that's trying to grow and evolve you got to put in that work And if that includes money do it because we have spent money on something else that we want Why not put it on your growth? That's a powerful shield. That's a powerful shield that if you don't mind me asking how old are you right now? I'm very youthful So you one of them, you know, we're in that don't ask my age so But I ask you your age because it might inspire somebody I'm young and youthful So And you know, they say black don't cry so we cannot tell I do not know if you are I can't tell if you are young You know in your 30s or if you actually the age that you look because Today you could be 19 you could be 25 But you could also be 35 or 40 it's just like a person can't tell but I could tell like what you say You're young and you're youthful And you look really young to me. So that speaks to me in another way because it's like to be young And to jump out there and have success when I know sometimes people be in their 50s and 60s And scared to jump out there. So, you know, you took that step Did you have to talk to anybody that kind of push you to say hey go ahead and do it Or was it just something you came to within yourself? Well, as I told you God instructed me, but then I also had a friend who was telling me I should be a motivational coach as well But I will say this as far as when it comes to my age I have been coaching people this double my age, you know, so I tell people all the time Do not put wisdom and age together You think that someone is much older than you has a lot of wisdom. You would think that's how it goes But it does not always work like that, you know, God can use children to speak to you You know, so never put age or wisdom, but I've been coaching people that's old enough to be my grandmother You know, you're not gonna have to be one of my kids possibly You know, so I'll see a you said something right there now because You said a mouthful right there because I became a professional coach at the age of 23 And I wrote a book at 22 and I remember people saying that to me then but then I look at certain statistics and a lot of people Who became millionaires it didn't happen until their 50s or 60s And so it kind of is this lesson to where You're never too young to get started and you're never too old to get started And I think that's what I'm pulling from what you're saying is you're starting young But yet you're still able to help people and I and I bet the people that's old enough to be your grandmother I bet a part of why they're hiring you too is Inspiration they probably like if this young lady out here Stepping up and doing this I can be doing it. I can be Believing in myself and stepping in my dream. So I bet a part of it is just seeing you, you know on there In that position as a life coach a professional coach And just curious to say let me see how this worked. Let me see how she got the confidence to get out here and do it Now what are your Three categories on my mentor dot life that you coach in Well, I have been changing them up because I can like specialize in many different ones But I've been doing relationships this functional families healing and breakup Now I would I would like for you to change it to four That would be nice Okay, okay. So you want a fourth one now see I made it three but Four probably is possible if it won't throw the alignment of the site off But I made it three because when we first started testing it out with some coaches People was doing exactly what? I didn't want them to do and they people were selecting 30 categories And so it's like if somebody select 30 categories A person and I didn't want coaches to mess themselves up To be a jack of all trades, but for I think that's something I could really, you know, sit down and think about So if you did four, what would the four be? um Relationships dysfunctional families healing and breakups Hmm. Okay. Now dysfunctional families that was Probably a request from one of the coaches who signed up And I don't know if that was your request or somebody else had requested it And it was already there when you went to sign up, but that is one that I see a lot of people struggle with Have you been booked for that topic? Yes, many times. I've been um You know what it's been like equal with as far as when it comes to the breakup and relationships and dysfunctional families I've been getting equal requests on that But with the dysfunctional families, I've been getting like whole families. So I have the session Break it out in days and I'm coaching whole entire families. So but yes, I have Wow. Wow. That is something and You learn about this some dysfunctional families from experiencing it yourself From being in a dysfunctional family. Yes Yes Right and see it's it's and see that's the thing It's people that are going through these things and dealing with these things And don't realize that for every one step you take You one step ahead of somebody else that you could be looking back and reaching back to help them and say, hey Okay, this is what I just did You know, I cut off contact with this family member for a week and they came back and apologized And people don't realize that lesson could be talked to somebody That's in that mess struggling So Is that kind of do you do that? Like do you share some personal experiences that you went through or just the lesson that come from the experience when you coaching? Believe it or not Tony and this is why I said God is orchestrating this even your whole website because each person Last every last person including the man They reach out to me. I have experienced the situation I've been there and I've done that or it's it's just it's it's crazy because it scared me sometime. It's like I've been through the same thing So I'm able to share that and then not only that, you know When me going through the same thing well what they have been going When we have been going through the same thing that they have been going through They didn't have bring family members that's experiencing the same thing So I'm able to coach them through this and coach them through that but it's I've been through Whether it be a man whether it be a woman whether it be a kid You know child they bring for coaching. I'm able to use my experience and that's one thing I tell people Never be afraid to tell your testimony Never we all are learning in this life And if God going to use you to tell your story tell it and never be ashamed of it, you know, nobody is perfect We all have had trials and tribulations, you know, and I'm very Transparent when I'm talking to them and I get on details Because I'm not afraid to tell my story and I don't care what anybody think About my story because the only person I have to answer to is the man above Mm-hmm Now do some of your clients hire now you said they tell family members. Hey, you need to get you a session Do some of your clients get a second or third session themselves? I do. I have some weekly ones some monthly, you know some every two weeks It just depends and then sometimes you have that person that just needed somebody to talk to And then that'd be like it it'd be like that they have booked one time But I will say and I'ma just throw this in there I've been constantly from Africa from London all over the world And that's amazing and it's like how do we have the same? This is why I tell you We should share our testimony because you in Africa you in london you in new york, you know, you in georgia And I'm in detrayed and you able to call me and I had the same story issue And that's why I never be ashamed to tell you a testimony Hmm. That's powerful. That's powerful and you know um, I don't know how my Personal brand kind of spread around the world But I've been hearing that because right now the main promotion for my mentor that life is me I'm promoting it through the this on the wall on my videos And it on my t-shirt and me just driving people there and so they coming from around the world But I didn't think international like london and africa would be booked in coaches But I've heard that from several coaches that they didn't book from people outside of the country What was your feeling the first time someone outside of the country booked you? I was surprised. I was amazed I I was like I was taking back because it's like you want me to coach you you want me So I was taking back and also different races white black Indians All different colors. It's it's amazing tony. It really is and what's crazy is it'd be funny to me How you know because for the black community, you know, we've been brought up a little different than the white community for the most part And it's it'd be funny to me how I'm being able to relate to those different races. It's like wow It's it's it's amazing Interesting that's interesting and so you learning and you're growing yourself as you meet in these people and hearing these stories And that's the crazy part how you kind of learn some things while you People think as a coach you're just a teacher, you know, but as a coach on your sessions You're actually kind of learning Different things about life that you didn't know is has that been your experience as well? So, um What has happened with your site? Now I will say your site Tony, it's amazing. I know you I said that a million times, but it is because your site has came An accountability partner for me And I know you saying how does the internet or site becomes an accountability partner for somebody? And this is how now Even though the internet is not a person to hold me accountable to my actions It's like I'm on the site Given my story my testimony preaching to these people And no, they cannot see me physically But I'm trying to live according to God's word, but God can see me So it's like I can't be preaching to these people telling them my testimony Then I'm doing the same thing or keep back sliding in my mess So your website where your, um, mentor in life has came accountability partner for me It really has Wow. Wow. And you said something And I and I keep reiterating that because I want people to understand that too Like what you said when you start to help others it helps you because now you have purpose Now, you know people counting on you now, you know You need to be able to come from an authentic place or feel so terrible to be given advice or Supporting someone through their stuff if you're still doing the same stuff. So it encouraged you and pushes you And that's what you've experienced Exactly it has so there's a lot of times when I'm talking to them. It's like I needed that encouragement myself I'm telling this person be strong. You can do it. You can get through it You know, we all been there, you know, let this go release this and this is how you heal And this is how you in this and this is how you in that And there are a lot of times I'd be encouraging myself When I'm speaking to others, but It's it's good. It's good Well, Carmen, I'm so glad to hear, you know, your story and that you're getting booked now You got on there, you know, it sounds like you got on there and you got booked, you know, not too far in So I want to ask you how long did it take for you being on the site before you got your first booking? Um, I I think I've been on your site for six months If I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong for six months and I think I got booked my first week I got booked my first my first week. I was on there. Hmm. Wow. So that worked out for you Now, what would you say to the coaches they've been on there? You know two months three months and they haven't gotten booked. Is it any Tips or anything that you've learned or that you would say to them about, you know, their profile or how they're using the site Well, I got tips for them and people that want to do it So for the people that's trying to get booked on their site, I would just say be genuine Let it come from the heart like I use you and like Tony said, don't do no, uh pictures in your car Because I was going to do one. No, I wasn't. I'm just joking But don't do no pictures in your car and just be genuine and be honest, you know and then for the people that um Want to start coaching and like I said for me I didn't want to do it because of maybe my past or things that I was going through but God taught me that Don't ever let someone hold you as something That I have forgiven you for Don't ever let someone hold you to something that I has washed you from So no matter what your past is What you've been through What you doing stop it Go to god And get on that site God listen ain't like I say ain't nobody perfect We all done done something that we're not proud of and if somebody want to keep bringing up your past or Things of that nature. Don't worry about it. Just get on on that site and just use it as a testimony that I'm not that person no more Um, that's powerful. That's powerful And I think that's a lesson that so many people need to hear because We need so many more servants because it's like you got a group of clients that you're coaching But it's over 300 million people in america. So it's like, you know, I've probably worked with At this point Two times three six times four 24 people a month and so If I'm only working with 24 people a month It leaves so many more people that can't book a session with me and needs a coach and then You getting booked and the other coaches getting booked, but it's so many mentors that's afraid to jump out So carmen, I want to encourage you to keep doing what you're doing keep pushing yourself Keep being an inspiration And I hope you do more. I hope you You didn't mention if you wrote a book yet if you haven't I hope you do. Are you gonna write a book? so You know, I was fasting And this is the time god introduced me to my mentor that life And um, I started writing a book And then I took one II took your birth your book Which was very helpful to me. So now I have more to do. I need like Some assistance like a little assistance and assistance in the certain area, but I I'm writing my book I have two books. I'm writing Awesome. Awesome. Keep going keep going. I feel like coaches, you know need to write that book Need to do one-on-one sessions and then eventually after doing the book Then your your first course will come where your clients after they do a session or do a few sessions You say hey, you can take this online course that they can go through and if they can't afford coaching They just can keep watching them videos over and over. So, you know, Stay on your path. Keep pushing yourself keep growing Thank you so much for taking out your time to do this interview with me And to anybody watching This who anybody who sees this you can book a session with carmen in the description under the video You'll find her link. You can click there and book a session with her To meet her to hear from her to get some feedback in your life in your situation Carmen any last words that you have? Yes, how many minutes I got left? You know, just flow from the spirit. Okay, so I want to um It's my facebook. It's my first and last name and my instagram is my first and last name too But if they go on there, I have not been on there. I've been passing away from social media So but you can go ahead on there, but I haven't been on there But I wanted to say to you, Tony I want to say like even though I don't know you personally I've never met you a day in my life But I feel like in my heart that what you portrayed to be is who you are And I want to say thank you because it's hard to find in the black community. Unfortunately A god-fearing man That's living according to god how god told us to live Now i'm not saying that there's no godly man out there But in our community it's rare to find and I just want to say i'm proud of you for using your platform to serve god and to Show people that you can serve god and still enjoy life. You can be holy and still enjoy life And also put these men in a place And helping and helping us women, you know When it comes to the issues of life in men, but I'm proud of you. Awesome. Thank you. I really appreciate that, you know, it's good to hear that Some people, you know going from it or getting something from it So that means a lot and I thank you and I wish you the best on your journey And um, I'll try to remember to put your instagram and facebook in the description too So anybody watching this you just can click that so thank y'all so much For joining us and getting to meet miss karman And I want to encourage you on your journey if you're ready to become a coach or you're ready to hire a coach take that leap today. God bless you and we'll talk soon Thank you