 Let's talk about right now, let's talk about Thierry Nicole's, I mean I don't know if you guys saw the footage of the weekend, I don't generally recommend it, it's brutal, it really is horrific and it's unexplainable in a sense of the irrationality and the brutality of the police here and just the way they treat this guy and the way they treat Thierry and it's inexplainable why they stopped him, these guys, the five policemen are all part of a kind of a special police unit, Skopjean that's been dismantled since, but Skopjean that was put together to reduce violent crime in the city and it was focused on that, it wasn't doing traffic stops or why were they stopping this guy for unsafe driving or something like that, why were they two police cars and mock cars doing the stopping, why was he put to the ground on a traffic stop, he didn't have a weapon, he didn't go for a knife, he didn't go for a gun, it's just unthinkable what happened here, what happened here and there are questions about race, there are lots of questions about race that this brings up that I don't think one can ignore, one if you were a white driver would this have happened played out exactly the same way, the fact that the cops are black makes no difference, second if the cops were white would there be people all over the media defending them right now, I don't see anybody defending them right now, anybody, even the generally poor police people don't seem to be defending them, if there were white cops would they be defending them, would they at the very least be going out and saying well we don't know the facts, maybe this, maybe that, everybody's pretty uniform, so is this race free in America, there is no race free today in America, particularly not when it comes to cops, I'm not saying any of this is related to, I'm not saying what they did to him is related to race, I don't know, but we don't know and there's very much, you can't ignore the possibility that it is, the way that five policemen can't really subdue one guy, not particularly strong, not particularly, you know and why is he on the ground, what has he done and why are they all yelling at him, I mean I saw one analysis where they said that in the span of 13 minutes they, 71 commands from different people, this goes against all the training these guys had, suppose they have one guy in charge giving the commands, why is everybody yelling at him different things, he complies with them, they keep yelling at him, he complies saying I'm doing everything you're telling me to do and he still gets beaten up and it's not just beaten up, in order to subdue this guy they tase him, they pepper spray him, they kick him in the head at least twice, they kick him and beat him everywhere else, I mean the beating was such that it killed him, I mean this is completely and utterly messed up, he did comply at every step, they tell him to do something he does it at every step, they say get on the ground, he gets on the ground, they keep yelling him get him with the guard, finally he figures out they want him to lie on the ground, he lies on the ground, they keep yelling at him so he turns over on his stomach, they keep yelling at him and beating him, it doesn't matter, his compliance was not an issue, you watch this video, he's complying but if you're getting beaten up for no reason are you gonna just lay there and do nothing? Well she's fighting with him, why would he get out of the car on a traffic stop? He's arguing with him, yes don't argue with police, that gives you an excuse to beat him up, these are thugs with uniforms and not only that, again I go back to what I was arguing, I've been arguing since George Floyd and I've been arguing, they're untrained thugs, they don't know what they're doing, they don't know how to subude somebody without killing them, there's absolutely no reason to use deadly force here, as there's been no reason to use deadly force in so many of these police beating cases, they should be trained to be able to subdue a guy one on one quickly, effectively without killing him, it is absolutely ridiculous that these guys would do what they did, I don't care if you're giving them, if you're speaking back to them because they're asking you to do something unreasonable, put handcuffs on them, taking the police and say that he didn't follow orders, why is that difficult, what does that require beating him, what does that require putting him on the ground, what does that require kicking him in the face, what does that require pepper spray and tasers, all of them, not just one of them, all of them, all of the above, would you just comply with being kicked in the face, why aren't we training these people, why aren't we training these people to subdue, why aren't we training these people in, I mean I don't know who we're recruiting to be policemen, I don't know why, I guess part of the problem is you give them special designation in a scorpion squad and suddenly they feel like they're above the law and they're supermen, so you know truly horrific and then how stupid are these cops, I mean talk about stupid, these cops are, you know they've got body cams, do they think they can get away with it, is that the issue here, is that in spite of the fact that they know they've got body cams, in spite of the fact that they know that their behavior is going to be reported, they continue doing it and then I don't know if you saw from the video, it takes the medical staff minutes to treat Tevi, they're just hanging out, they're not washing him, I mean who knows if his life could have been saved if he'd been treated immediately, but there's a nonchalance, there's a disregard for human life, a disregard for an individual's life, this guy is not some murderer on the loose, this guy is not shot anybody and is escaping the police, this guy according to the police will stop for a traffic violation, a traffic violation, how many of you have not been stopped for a traffic violation, how many times will you ask to step out of the car at a traffic violation, it's a utter complete disregard for individual human life, for individual, for the individual person and an arrogance, an arrogance and a stupidity that is just unthinkable and should cause us to really question who accepting as police and then what kind of training are they getting, I've said this before, they should be trained to subdue quickly, effectively, there should be almost no circumstances where policemen has to beat up somebody, there should be very few circumstances, we have to shoot somebody and only shoot somebody if somebody is putting a gun at you, but you should be trained in ways to subdue a suspect in any other circumstances without risking life to yourself or to other people, but we kind of hire policemen and we don't really train them and we give them a gun and once in a while they go shooting and maybe we give them these seminars on how to be a nice cop and what to do and what not to do and we probably don't test them on a regular basis and we certainly don't require them to be in physical shape, you can see that across the board on cops, I mean actually cops all the time and it's stoning to me how they can be in that shape, they couldn't survive in the military that way and police is about force and therefore they should be world experts in wielding force, they should be the best in the community at wielding force effectively while minimizing damage, anyway it's just a horror story and you know it's it's it's I think from for most reasonable person people this is now it's scary because again this is just a traffic stop and you know I'm the kind of person who if the cop is asking me to do something completely unreasonable I'm likely to tell him to argue with him to debate him while complying but to give him a little lip because I don't like injustice and I don't like stupidity so I need to be careful I guess is the answer it's just I mean the video is just horrific so don't watch it or watch it if you feel the need to if you need to see a concrete a real visual of it you can you just read the accounts on how horrific it really is was all right I mean we'll keep watching this we'll keep watching this and monitoring it and seeing what happens as I said I definitely do think I'm glad they're being prosecuted for second-degree murder I think it's definitely definitely second-degree murder you know from what we've seen we'll see what the court says what the trial shows and I do think I do think race is an issue here I don't think you could ignore the fact that he is black and I don't think you can ignore the fact that nobody is coming to the policemen's defense but if they were white would they be I think there would be people coming to their defense anyway my sense of this but as we say it's still a lot of holes in it still a lot of stuff we don't exactly know let's see let's see what happens let's see what comes out in the trial of course thank you for listening or watching the Iran book show if you'd like to support the show we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me you get value from listening you get value from watching show your appreciation you can do that by going to iranbookshow.com slash support by going to patreon subscribe star locals and just making a appropriate contribution on any one of those any one of those channels also if you'd like to see the iran book show grow please 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