 Alright, here we are out here with Animal Rights Activism Sydney. This is a very similar style to my brothers and sisters over at Anonymous for the voiceless, what they do. We've got the TV screens up here with the animal agriculture footage on there. We're going to go talk to some people about how they support the worst animal abuse on earth. Let's go. I've been watching lots and lots of your videos. Amazing. Over and over again. And now you're doing activism. Yes. Well, I've been, I was a vegetarian activist for a long time and a vegetarian when I was 16. Yeah. I've been with the intention of going vegan for just to be a long time to get there. That's cool. Yeah. It's a horrible way. We're trying to stop it, bro. That's all, mate. We're just trying to stop people from buying our products so that they don't, you know, we don't want animals to be hurt, man. No, it's not true. It's not true. They didn't do nothing wrong to us. You know what I mean? They're innocent. That's right. We just want, when people buy it, they've got the knife in their hand, you know? We want them to just, these products here, these restaurants, this vegan shit. No animals are tortured and killed for it, bro. So take it with you, man. I've seen it before. You have? Yeah. Maybe it was a documentary on TV. It probably made me eight months ago. A dominion? On TV. Oh, documentary on TV. Yeah. Yeah. I was watching it. Fuck. I was watching it. Fuck. So the way they kill the animals, it's a lot of them. Yeah. Long, you know? They put them in a suit or whatever they do. Do it the right way. It'll be fair, you know? If you don't have a signal and it's dying, fair enough, you know what I mean? So they kill an innocent fucking cow just for fucking meat. You know what I mean? It's unjustified. For our citizens, for feeding. It's fucking long, you know what I mean? And no one here sees what's going on in there. No. They go in the supermarket. Yeah, nice and dandy. They don't see the suffering in the blood. That's true. Exactly. Yeah. That's because the male chicks don't grow up to lay eggs. So they just dispose of them. They chuck them in there fully conscious. Yeah. That's when they first hatch. That happens at the hatchery. That's the egg industry. Free range organic. They all get rid of the males because they don't grow up to be egg laying hens, you know? You get a kill on that. Yeah. They don't give a fuck about it, man. They're just products to them that, you know, people buy eggs and they push a button on the blender. Yeah. Look, why I changed? I didn't want to be a hypocrite anymore. I didn't want to be an animal abuser anymore. And I just went like this. I got to do something. And I was like, well, I can be a vegan. That's the best thing I can do. Well, what I thought was that, what I wanted to say was for fucking, why don't they shut the hatchery in, you know what I mean? Because they're still fucking doing it. Why can't they shut the hatchery down? That's what he's doing. He's just wondering. Because the government legally, this is legal. They make a money off it. Fucking bulk, mate, bulk cash. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need to eat it. Like, we're not trying to be surviving in the tribe with hunting animals. We don't have no justification. Yeah, we're not fucking stuck. We can go into Woolies right now, get some bread, get some whatever, some veggies, some fruit, some beans, some tofu, whatever we want. We don't have to stab anyone to death for food. We don't have anyone to death for food anymore. Yeah. Yeah, it does, eh? Got a good heart, mate. All right, so check out that stuff and do the right thing, buddy. Absolutely. On ya, buddy. On ya. A legend, eh? Good guy, I see. Honest. An honest, big-hearted guy. What's that guy there, man? Like, because he's got tattoos and he looks a bit rougher. Like, people won't, like, they judge a book by its cover. That guy had a bigger heart than some of the, you know, I don't know, how would I say, privileged people that walk around that haven't lived through any suffering, that look at these animals. Human privilege. It is. It's human privilege. They live in this beautiful country here and look at the animals being tortured and go, who gives a shit? He walks past and goes, this is horrible. This is cruel. Why are we doing this? You know what I mean? But people, like, I don't, I just don't understand, like, some of the young people I speak to, they don't give a shit about this. Like, I'm sitting there debating with them at a university about why this is wrong. It shouldn't even be a debate. Did that man there debate with me? No? He just went, wow, that's cruel. Yeah, exactly. Like, exactly. One plus one equals fucking two. It's like, this isn't, you know, that's what I mean. I mean, people are so caught up in their own, like, it's a lot of ego. It's a lot of, like, I don't know, they're fighting to hold on to their beliefs, their steak there. I don't know. I don't really don't, sometimes I just lose hoping people away, but then someone like him walks past, I'm like, wow, what a legend, hey, what a good guy, you know? I don't know if he's going to go vegan, but at least he agreed. It's fucking cruel and we're doing the right thing. You know what I mean? Speak English, yeah? Do you know what this is? It's against the bad, when the animals are bad in animals. Yeah, it's where people get their meat, cheese, milk and eggs from. Slaughterhouses and farms here. Yeah, where are you guys from? Germany. Germany. I've been to Germany, I've been out in front of German slaughterhouses as well, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. In Germany, they, I've had Fabide, I'm not from here. Fabide is, it's a whole country, yeah. Fabide what? They said in Germany, those kind of slaughterhouses have been. That's ridiculous, no, no, no, no, no. Germany, Berlin, I've been to a gas chamber in Berlin. Have you seen the Pigsby gas chamber? Yeah. Have you seen the Pigsby gas chamber? Yeah. It's, I don't know if you've seen it on the screen. Horrible. They don't prohibit any of this in Germany. No, no, not in the gas chamber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so is slaughtering animals with a bolt gun and a knife to the throat. Is it completely legal in Germany too? Yeah, they do this all around the world. Standard practice. Yeah. You know what they do at the top here? This is what they might have stopped in Germany. They put them in a mixer. The blender. Yeah, yeah. So you know about this? Chicken nuggets. Yeah, I've seen this before. So you must have changed your diet by now or your lifestyle? At least I only buy meat and I don't buy like super cheap meat and stuff. If I buy meat, I buy expensive one. I don't know. It makes you feel better? I don't know if the conditions are actually better. That's just what the blender makes me feel better. So those labels make you feel better, but that animal was murdered in a slaughterhouse just like these ones. You know they all go to the same slaughterhouse? No, I don't know. Well, they slaughter factory farmed animals at the same place. They slaughter the free range animals. And you're right, you don't know what happened to that animal. But you know it's chopped up in a package there in front of you. So that should be evidence. Yeah. The reason we show people this is not for... We don't stand here for no reason. We're trying to convince the public. We're not convinced the public. We're trying to let the public understand that without their money, we want them to know they pay for animal abuse. It's really simple. Like without the public, they don't slaughter animals. So the blood is on the hands of people who buy it. Sure. Yeah. Who's organizing this? Animal rights activists in Sydney. Yeah. We're just animal rights activists. People that give a shit about animals being stabbed to death, basically. When we have options, vegan options. I used to be vegan for a few months. Just to try. Yeah. A lot of people say they try vegan, but vegan's like a philosophy you adhere to. It's like being against racism. You're against animal abuse, you know? A similar thing. I wouldn't agree it's the same like being against racism. Not at all. I tried to see, you know, right now I'm not busy, but I'm super busy like finding work. So I tried to see if there's like a big threshold to just going full, full vegan. Yeah. So I did like two or three months of being vegan. And I just figured it was more expensive. It took more time. It took some more practice. Not if you live and build in, but perhaps not if you live in Sydney. But at least in my city, which is on the opposite side, it's just... It was a little bit inconvenient at first. Yeah. You don't like, in Berlin you don't have any, it doesn't make a difference whether you eat vegan or if you don't. Perhaps it doesn't here. But at least in Düsseldorf it's very hard to like, you don't have any shops where you can be sure of that they are vegan or if you have vegan ones, they're super expensive. And if you go to supermarkets where you only have like good vegetarian quality or vegan quality or things that are only vegan, it's super expensive. I agree that some vegan products are super expensive. But also, the most cheapest products in the supermarket, the whole food, plants, the beans, the rice, the potatoes, the corn, the vegetables and the fruits, those are the cheapest foods in the supermarket. By far. You know, so you can design a vegan diet that is cost effective for you. For sure. But the reason I said it's like being against racism is because it's an issue of injustice here. I mean, it's not the same as racism, but we're discriminating against some animals and we're cutting their heads off because of that. So it's an injustice. It's not right. It is an injustice. I was just not agreeing with the kind of... The analogy? Yeah. Well, both of them are evil. They are, but to a different extent. Of course. Racism is like, oh, they're different to us. Let's treat them differently. Treat them badly. Surely the underlying principle is the same. They're different to us. Let's treat them badly. Let's cut their head off. And let's just say you buy this free-range animal, right? I don't believe so because I've seen free-range farms. But let's just say, like, this animal, they're on the grass, then they get led into the slaughterhouse and get shot in the skull and have their head cut off, gutted, turned into meat. You know? That's the injustice. They're treated as... Surely the underlying principle, I get the analogy in terms of racism. I don't just... I just don't think that's to the same extent. It's worse. The result of human supremacy to animals is worse. Where are 3 trillion humans being holocausted right now? They're not. No, exactly. 3 trillion animals every year, including sea animals because 2.7 trillion marine animals are also murdered. Sure. So bad things have happened because of racism. We can all see into history it's evil. Racism is evil. Human slavery, you know, bad shit. Human slavery still exists. Where is this type of treatment of humans legal? No, it isn't. Yeah. It's legal here to... It's legal here to do this to animals in Australia. This is actually standard legal practice. Yeah, probably. I mean, I don't need a lot of meat anywhere. Anywhere. Yeah. I eat maybe chicken once a week. Yeah, well... I hope that that you can still see from that bird's perspective that has their head cut off for that once a week and it's still an injustice, you know? Because it's really, like, not that inconvenient when you put the animals first. Well, not... I'm not saying, like, sacrifice your life for animals. I'm saying, like, when you look at it from the victim's perspective, moving this way in the supermarket, moving that way in the supermarket, buying some, you know, beans and rice and some fruits and veggies and some soy milk, it's really not that bad compared to having your head cut off. No, it's not too bad. I know. It's good talking to you, mate. It's good to meet you. Good to meet you too, buddy. Yeah, that was a good chat. I don't know. It's a little bit too easy, I think. I don't know. I just don't know what he was thinking, that's all. It's hard because... Yeah, it seemed a little bit like apathy. Like, this is why some people might measure that as a successful conversation. I mean, I told, explained at the best I could. But you just don't know. And I felt from that conversation not confident in what he was going to do after it. But you can only try your best head. So, it was nice.