 time allowing and also we are grateful that a pending issue relating to loans has now finally been unlocked and we are grateful that yes we've prepared checks and we are also grateful that we've partnered with some financial institutions that are going to provide literature, financial literature to our people that are going to get loans so that indeed they put these monies to good use. So we're grateful for taking time out so that you come and grace important occasions. Honourable Minister. So thank you so much. We are here to, like you have said, to prepare this call on your office. I'm sure you are aware that I called for two meetings where we came to discuss issues to do with the CDF. I think the first meeting was called almost eight, seven months ago. The last one I think was about three months ago. Now instead of calling meetings and then discuss issues of CDF projects and so on in a room, I've decided to go on the ground and physically see what has been done in these constituencies and we started with K-20 and then we'll go to other districts. I think next week we'll be going to either Mufuera or Chigol. So this is why we are here. We want to check exactly what's happening with the CDF. How many people, for example, have benefited in terms of skills training? How many youths have been sent? How many have gotten the grants and the loan issue we've mentioned? And then projects have been completed. At which speed are we running in terms of projects? So I think we are going on the ground. I think we'll be able to see, are we running at just good speed? Are we within the lane of the vision career that is present in each of them? So this is why we are here in K-20. We just came to pay K-20 in your office. But you know, I believe in calling and spending, I saw an article of a mayor which has gone viral on the social media, where there's an allegation that you asked the president to resign after his press briefing yesterday. I think that article is in the domain and it's gone viral everywhere. So I was wondering that if that is true, I want to tell you that I'm very disappointed. It's a very disappointed. I've seen that if it's true, I hope it's not true. But if it's true, I'm disappointed because this government and the exercise present in India want to impress everybody in terms of running the affairs of the country. It doesn't matter whether a councilor is coming from PF or Socialist Party or is coming from any other political party. There can only be one government at a given time. And there's only one president at a given time. And I think any person who is fair, they should appreciate the input of what President Helaindi has done the last one year, seven months. If we take the records of previous governments, I don't know which government did what President Helaindi has done the past seven months. I don't know who we can compare to. So if that came from you, I think it's not a good thing. I think I went in the first place. I said I'll wake with everybody as Minister of Government of your province, which the president himself has said also want to wake with everyone. It doesn't mind wherever, even if he comes to Ketwin, I think he's been taking all of us like we are always children, including yourself. So if that really came from you to ask the president to resign, that is not correct. I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed if that really came from you. I expected you to encourage the president to do more of what he's doing because I think he's showing that he can walk his talk. He's done several promises which he promised the people of Zambia and I think we can name several promises which has fulfilled, including here in Ketwin. So in short, I'm saying we should not bring to politics in what we are trying to achieve. You are part of this government, whether you want or not, or you are coming from PAF, you are part of this government. That's how it is. And you are one president and that's your president. So if it came from you to say let him step down, that is not correct. Let it end here. Let it end here. It's better if you said it, say it maybe somewhere, not to go on the social media like ladies. And I saw another one some time back, I think like four or five months ago, I would rather you play with us than playing with the president. You want to say something bad, talk about it in my comment. Don't touch the president. That is my advice. Thank you, honorable minister. And I'm grateful that this is the first time you played a courtesy visit on my office and I'm almost flocking two years. I'm grateful and understand that you have a busy schedule, sir. The article you referred to is a social media article. It's not even an article, it's a statement. And it's on the PAF blogs. That PAF is called the Chimumu PAF. I didn't mention the president. I was talking about, I hope he resigns when after the press conference or something like that. I was not talking to the president. And I think if anyone is able to read the article, it will safely say that I did not mention the president. If anyone else misinterpreted it to mean for the president, that's unfortunate. So to level that accusation against me is unfortunate. And coming from a high office like yours, I think before cameras, I think maybe an investigation could have been done earlier before this event. You've also referred to an article or maybe some time back, except I can't talk about it since you haven't mentioned it. I'm not privy to that. But having mentioned that this is your first time playing a courtesy visit on my office, how I wish you had had time off your busy schedules, then perhaps you could have also had known me also so that you can actually know that how much I mean well to work. I'm working with the government and promoting their activities and doing everything possible. And I've not at any point much linked with the president. I didn't mean to the president, whoever misinterpreted it to mean the president, it's unfortunate. I didn't mention the president. We have one God who said just hours. Yes. Yeah, the Lord himself even knows what you've made. Yes, but to say I meant the president, I didn't even address that. That wasn't even an official platform. I didn't say that statement as mayor. I appreciate I mean this office, I mean local government office. And also I subscribe to a party. I'm affiliated to the patriotic front. I'm also a member of the central committee in patriotic front. So there's time to politic and it's time to work. That was not an official platform where I was not wearing a chain who was mayor. And the more so, I did not attribute it to the president. I didn't say president. I thought I should just put that on record. We'll leave it to God. Thank you. That's what I can say. We'll leave it to God. But I want to advise you don't play around with the president. That I insist. Don't play around with the president. If you want to play around, you play with us. If you want to start politics, politicking with ministers like me. Don't attack the president and you are a mayor. Don't attack the president in that manner in that fashion. Don't allow that. I wanted to say it in camera. So I've said it. I think it's done. He's refused to never meet the president and I'll take it that way. We'll leave it to God. And moving forward this week together. That's what is important. This week together. Let's do the project together. You are part of the government. You cannot operate in an isolation. You have to work with us whether you want or you don't want. I have to work with you whether I want or I don't want. The president has to work with you and that's what he has shown that you can work with everyone. So let's work together. That's the way they're going forward. Yes. Yeah. So I'm grateful that you found time to visit. We, Kitwe, need you. This is your district. We've got so many challenges that we need your office to come through for us. We cannot exist in isolation. We, Kitwe, need development. And it is only you that we can run towards the district. Just like you have found time today, I hope you continue finding more time so that together we can unlock development for the district of Kitwe. I thought I should also just mention that I'm looking forward to echo the working relationship between Kitwe district and the province. Because yes, we may have challenges that we may not communicate through cameras. Sometimes they're just in-house that we need you to know. So I'm grateful that you've opened your doors that you could work with this office. Thank you so much, Minister for that. I may just, you'll dispose anything. I'm sure you know I'm running an open police door policy. Anytime you are free to come. If there are issues, you are free to come and talk about them. Thank you so much. Yeah. And otherwise, I'm grateful.