 to go live now talk more about this fairyocracy how would you get one in a fairyocracy like monogamy is banned monogamy is banned monogamy do you mean like the electoral process you're there even be an electoral process enough in a fairyocracy maybe feel like you know like uh it'd be trouble like you know combat no three fight no no no not combat trial by year oh your social status in society is determined by how many diseases you have oh probably mulch trial by bulge oh you have to so so the candidates will stand um among their uh among the people who have the right to vote and you vote for the candidate well you know it's not it's not really voting but uh whoever's bulge gets nuzzled the most becomes the leader of the whatever it is there and then deciding you only get the right to vote after they know you're gonna vote for the right person then you get the right to vote I do like that the vote for the right person it's just a great little nice little like sentence that's absolutely what furries would do they'd be like oh we don't think you'd vote for who you need to vote for you so you don't get the right to vote no why don't they just you know bring out like a really shitty two-party system so that you whoever you vote for you're still trapped voting for like very status quoey films here's a here's a nice little interesting question is there a better system than a two-party system 10 party system what what would that system be do you think the same one but with 10 the fucking word is out of my brain right now what is it when preference-based voting is that the word I mean we have preference-based voting in Australia but it's still two parties it's labor and the liberal like liberal coalition so it's preference but there's still two major parties what I mean is do you have one that has more than two parties that's actually viable as a system of government I don't know an example of one but Canada surely I think Canada has three major parties but from what I understand that means that there's never a majority government and when there's not a majority government it's difficult to get things done it's kind of the reason why I'm not sure that there's a better system than two party I feel like the systems even if they had multiple parties would always end up to two eventually yeah because two is more competitive than three what do you have a like a very a large number of parties but you do it on a knockout basis oh so by the end you have two parties left and they're gonna have it you know they're gonna control everything could every party had a run two parties with candidates being knocked out I feel like that would have basically just be what we have anyway right we the two parties that we have are the two successful ones with we mostly just skip the other part yeah like that's why i'm i'm not sure we go back to the ferreocracy yes you say let's go back to it and then you don't develop it jay what the fuck um oh no that's not that's not developing oh disgusting anyway welcome to efeb number u 85 85 805 um we're we're kicking on with the dreaded prequel arc as it got it got it got started wonderfully it's a brilliant adventure and uh part two which is to uh to be checking out a certain youtuber of popular merit uh ripping into him so we of course will be absolutely ready to uh to assess such a such a thing and and be like you know what you're right cosmo or you know what you're wrong that that could happen either way jay what do you think of cosmo variety hour you you've covered in what 17 times now um i have i'm sure he's nice that's what i'll say about him i'm sure he's a nice guy not really like he might be a dick but as far as i know he's not so wow well either way uh we got to ask a question quick for mr fringy he's the university hasn't answered this yet on this particular cast anyway fringy what's better no you're not allowed to ask any questions you just have to choose one christmas or halloween um i prefer christmas i like christmas it's obvious i knew he was gonna make the right choice he's a smart man yeah i think i think christmas is way better i i mean i think halloween's cool but yeah halloween's all right christmas is awesome it's a good backup you know i think uh my view on it is the lead up to christmas i hate but christmas day i like oh it's not even lead up to halloween because it's like oh i guess halloween it's over well see no you you've made a mistake there because everyone hates the lead up to christmas it's lame while everyone invents the lead up to halloween because it's awesome we treat all of october as a lead up to halloween because of how cool it is yeah like don't get me wrong i think halloween's cool and all but a lot of that's just because of the simpson's halloween specials three halves of horror i don't know halloween improves tv we know this it's just true christmas tv worse christmas does typically make tv worse usually lame i mean i mean but there's you don't know watch all those sweet horror movies where a woman returns to her hometown and then meets a guy and the same story happens we need zombies in there that's that's what's missing zombies ghosts there has probably hasn't there there's a there's gotta be a yeah there's a zombie christmas movies probably but you're forgetting that you know diehard the greatest christmas movie of all time is also one of the greatest movies of all time yeah i wouldn't disagree with that we've got plenty of amazing horror movies though and that's the thing halloween gets a genre christmas gets a genre but it's not you know yeah but remember christmas genre is like the superhero genre whoa now what do you mean it could be anything it just needs to have christmas in it in the same way you find it overrated and not i mean we've talked about this more like the whole idea of you know superhero genre doesn't tell you anything other well but christmas it has to be set christmas superhero it just has to have somebody with powers in it like i feel like one is more broad than the other tell you kind of generally it will tell you the tone yeah it's a christmas movie but it's not a christmas genre is it well i mean it's set during christmas so surely that's all it means to be a christmas movie is that it's set during christmas what do you well what are we supposed to do with movies that have like a portion of their time set at christmas or halloween a portion of their time yeah um i don't know maybe maybe we just need to set some arbitrary it's really important that we nail this i love the discussions genre oh yeah genre discussions my my forte i admit i'm in three like surely well but if you watch the movie it's very christmasy yeah could people remember thriller came out november 31st so i didn't know halloween album i don't know if we should judge it by when they release there is no november 31st it's just november 30th yeah november it came out november i like how you got that wrong and you just like yeah well it doesn't matter rags rags the temporal system is important okay it came out november 30th wait fringy isn't christmas warm in australia yeah summer here so christmas is often about 40 degrees yeah it's hot and it doesn't rain and it doesn't snow to be fair sure isn't like the coldest day of the year in australia it's still gonna be pretty warm well let's put it into perspective uh in the city that i live in the coldest temperature that we ever recorded was like negative point zero uh negative point two yeah it does not get cold here it doesn't get cold negative is pretty cold to me well yeah but but what i mean is like this is at three a.m in the morning in like june and and then yeah celsius oh yeah sorry and uh yeah celsius so that's like a negative that's positive fahrenheit so i don't know fahrenheit doesn't make sense for me what the fuck with fahrenheit what's that a kelvin tree uh kel-oh shit did you say kelvin did you say did you say kelvin okay good i don't know i have no idea i don't know kelvin oh i don't mean to be much louder than everybody someone just said i am french theologian john kelvin you're always much louder than everybody i mean according to the levels on obs mostly everybody is fine so i don't know what to tell you chat how is it looking how warm is it in protestant reformation units yeah what is that what is that you don't know wow well i mean it'd be in protestant i mean it's pretty self-explanatory yeah we all understand how warm is it in in baboon body temperatures how many baboon that's fucking warm six isn't warm so it's six degrees of body temperatures six would be six would be very very dead with body temperature of a baboon oh okay oh i thought i thought baboon body temperature would be zero and then it would go up and down from there so thanks for nice reminding me about numbering the title i'm for some reason i'm not twice now i'm retarded i just leave the hashtag out of there hashtag a baboon's body temperature is between 5.3 and 41 degrees celsius so i was right six so it varies greatly does it does it include i was gonna say does it include dead baboon yeah temperature and what it should be yeah five degrees like five degrees rude temperature well hang on how does that even average out it would it depend on where all of them from and where they move to and there's lots of variables here like i have the baboons in africa are way hotter than the baboons in Antarctica oh yeah so the baboons in Antarctica they're shivering they're asking the penguins how do you put up with this shit all day every day well how do you live this charade this is no way to live like i mean even though there's nothing there there's penguins you know and mountains occasionally and then a lot of life dude penguins awesome man oh yeah they're great have you seen the the things that get shade on reddit with alligia wood penguins and like post battles uh we don't talk about wait do you mean have we seen the sequel to happy feet happy feet two or have you seen happy feet also the sequel to happy feet thank you for clarifying that does Elijah would return as the voice actor of the protagonist whatever his name is flippy or whatever i like how that's what you would give a name to some animal that has flipped it does oh flippy you know just like the kangaroos like pouchy well pouchy jumpy you know retouchy instead of something like cool like uh i don't know calvin or ed i i don't know what i mean pouchy could describe most most like do you know how many marsupials there are in australia they all have pouches a hundred call a koala so i regardless of how many i so are there three marsupials four all right a lot more must four it's like i'm guessing four see i said a hundred that's closer well i mean let's go through the list you got it's closer to a dozen no he said dozens he said dozens and i interpreted that as as seven dozens well it depends are we going to break it down into like the subspecies or just the broad like kangaroo wombat yeah like kangaroo not like wilson's kangaroo in kangaroo jack i care about wilson's kangaroo so there's like there's kangaroos wallabies uh so we've got kangaroos wallabies wombats um we've got quackers um we've got uh bandicoots um we've got possums we've got um Tasmanian devils um we've got well we had the Tasmanian tiger that was a that was a marsupial it's not a dog and it's not a cat what happened to a killer uh yeah got hunted through extinction in like 1920s so the last one died in 1928 so uh good job settlers you killed the most interesting animal if you can't survive humanity maybe you don't deserve to if you call them Tasmanian devils i think people might want to be like oh i need to get rid of those it's because nice to screech um they they screech a lot not like that i think it's still on the bed i like Tasmanian devils of the oh like the the sjw's of Australia so i guess these people just think that after when Noah's ark you know when it was done the floodwaters receded or when they didn't uh so all the all the marsupials got together after the ark opened up and they all somehow got to Australia in accord they were plumbed to Australia you know but nowhere else um some of them probably went to Antarctica and then promptly died yeah they were like i'm going with the penguins the penguins are cool we we became friends on the ark we're gonna gotta go to Antarctica oh yeah all that space two of them on the ark so if they don't that's what leveled out most species before but they went to the wrong habitat all died out did they drop everybody off didn't like go to different areas drop it went to it stopped on a rock and then everybody got out and no i don't like that vision who had to wait where was this rock who had to walk the farthest uh it was probably in the middle east like oh i thought he meant iraq not iraq like it might have been iraq who knows it could have been iraq a big rock in iraq some deserty little eastern places where it finally just sort of settled and all the animals all the polar bears all the polar bears and the penguins were like jesus christ we gotta walk a real good far away i like the idea that the polar bears were like fucking hell no way all of it all like the snakes all the lizards in the desert like oh yeah this is great yeah good job yeah i like this honestly i i yeah this is great oh the polar bears get into this little like car with his little tie and hat and he's like fucking pieces of shit no one's then the possums get out and they're like how the fuck am i gonna get to north america i like the idea of like no one getting out because the boat was there for like what six months or something and he goes back to his car and he's got a parking ticket yeah exactly this is bullshit yeah like you see there was a parking inspector who had scuba gear who walks past and i don't know what you think he'd get past me you know did i ever say on e-fap like our religious education teacher in a secondary school high school i guess would try and tell these stories from the bible but our class was ass holy i say ass holy this should be this should be just normal everyone's just asking questions as you do i'm pretty sure i mentioned this before i feel like i have maybe a hundred fucking e-faps ago i don't know the uh there was a there was a girl who said isn't it disgusting that no i had to have sex with his kids and i'll teach you was just like oh god didn't make it a sin yet oh my god totally the cannon able thing that comes up with the insane inbreeding i hope you really really liked your family members yeah it is something i'll never forget because it evolved into oh so he changed his mind he was wrong about something that she was like no he always plans to change his mind that's always how it was gonna go he was like uh was his fetish he was incest and then he he just grew it's like phases you know then you just sort of get out of it you're not really into it anymore and you're like that's not okay if i can't enjoy it no one can and then the the way she would stop it all would be like okay i'll i'll answer these questions i have to class and as soon as class so it's like no fuck this we're out he's out the door how do you explain these things that's what i mean i don't think she even believed it she was reading it out like i don't know what this means in serious ways all you need to know is well i mean i mean the interesting one is so like maybe god should have told her not to look back so that she didn't turn into a pillar of salt maybe she should have said maybe he's yeah maybe he should have said don't turn around or you turn into a pillar of salt i feel like even then i even then i feel like you know maybe we don't have to turn her into a pillar of salt we're looking at something let her look maybe maybe turning into a pillar of salt is a metaphor for just getting really salty getting told me that your home yeah i destroyed your home i love the pillar of salt it's just like why are salt the guy who wrote that was probably like this sounds pretty cool i guess i don't know it's funny it's funny now everyone's gonna do the more or less than a bit which is don't be gay god had more punishments lined up like you know turning someone into like a sphere of paprika and they just roll away into the sea or something they just dissolve it it's like oh no you know all the polar bears trying to get to the north pole or crossing by they eat you it was a big old gay plan though he decided to make it like a no-no to make everyone like that's forbidden being the big gay oh yeah i mean the the moral you went from that story is don't look at cool things or else you turn into a like dinner you turn into seasoning it's like no anything but that oh yeah whenever i'm cooking i always put pepper and lot's wife on my food these stories are metaphorical you fucks like oh right right i still don't get it yeah it's a metaphor that you you know the metaphorical story about don't be gay start not be fat nice and controversial there god god made being gay a sin so he could feel dirty as he did it oh wow that's where yeah that's where the throat comes in he's like i'm violating god slash my law that's also why he made incest to sin i don't know yeah if you if you make it legal the thrill is just not it's not going to be the big reveal in the bible too god had a sister the whole time called god eater the bible too oh it's just jesus he likes to eat moogaloo i mean it's uh it would have been godette right you know that's that's what it is the woman version of a man is just that with it as a suffix you can do you can do ena as well ena's something a lot of people do um god ass the oh god i i guess we i guess i guess we could use god ass miss missus god miss god it's man it's miss god she's not married yeah she's yeah there's three in one they're in a polygamous relationship with themselves oh i was going more on the uh she's you know she's got her own stuff going on she's gonna start up her own business what does that mean between universe she runs an ants store bible too is going to be like all these different side stories that we never even knew about all these different characters and this this is going to recontextualize a lot of what we knew yeah the weird character development in the bible we're gonna finally if the bible is the main saga maybe uh maybe hers will be like you know the mandalorian but her like you know just going on adventures i want to know what the side stories are i want to know what like i want to know more about this universe what's going on in it you know dude you could make an expanded universe well i mean i say expanded universe it's just the bible i just want to say you know like independence there are any movie that addresses like the outside of the god earth expanded law and it's like oh we're in africa this time oh exciting you never know anything about that do you i'm surprised by how little people know about african like history there was a lot of cool stuff there like marley what was the name of the uh what was the richest girl in the world what was his name uh god damn it i was trying to make a point about how interesting african history is and i don't even remember the name of the guy just for you to pay for better marketing what was uh what was the no it's the richest guy it was the um oh monsa moosa that's his name yeah richest guy in the world marley empire me first risked a lot of paper but name that dude that's a cool name yeah first name is man sir and his last name is moosa you know he's a real man you know he's a chad he ain't one of the yeah like it's not voldemort but it's it's still pretty cool do we want to talk about the whole oh i suppose we is everyone willing to you know be of like 10 hours i'm not gonna lie i might not make it that long oh no we haven't even started our intro yet i have intro things this is the pre-intro this is the intro to the intro we've evolved as podcasters we now have a pre-intro then we move into the intro so the first thing on our intro would be we already talked about this i don't know what we're gonna say in total but the simping emotes are being banned from twitch for misogytism yeah there's like articles to do with how it's like at least this is what i've gotten from geeks and gamers like you because he was covering an article about it this is like it's it's a misogynist sort of uh slur slash label even though it's against men well as we discussed it's you could argue for both it's like oh wow the waman is only worth getting sex from in terms of being nice to them but i still think that's you know it who does it hurt more what do you what do you guys reckon man's all the way it hurts more of course i would imagine this what it's those sexes like those sexist systems that just put both like into a box and it doesn't like it's like if you if you are anything other than that box then yeah you're fucked by that system which is why i mean what i would say though is like if you're an attractive woman that doesn't necessarily restrict you because you could be intelligent you could be resourceful you're being told that men are questing for your vijay that's that's you know that's something that's in any you could that could be a compliment in some circles and i'm not hearing any affirmation there it's restrictive to a certain role wow only if you choose to be a switch streamer you know like you could just wear it i mean how does the guy who's the simp is the one who loses and the instances where it's like applied incorrectly though oh well what i mean i thought what we mean is like who's worse off the thought for the simp in which case he's definitely the simp who's worse off as in a full on like just a genuine thought versus simp scenario yeah the simp is getting fucking played but like in all circumstances where you might use the word if you're using the word to be like say some guy is being nice to some girl and people like oh simp right that's the kind of situation where it has women that's obvious oh so the scenario there is wow guy you're only being nice for sex which is like wow that sucks and then wow girl he's only being nice to you because he wants your sexisms that's that's the offense being delivered to both so it hurts it hurts men when it's true and women when it's false how does it hurt when it's false because it's the function of the woman only like they're only being nice to a woman because they want the poon but how does that hurt the woman because like if that's not true then the woman has something else to offer that's not the no that's you making assumption about i guess um the way that it could be harmful would be like if if what happens is that people start to just like look at a a woman is having like less value or something it's like oh well you're just you know like as if as if the only yeah actually no i don't think i don't think it hurts a woman in that instance here actually i'm not sure that it does well just picture being a lady and someone's talking to you and then someone else is like that guy's only talking to you oh right it must be kind of like demoralizing to be like i offer more than just yeah i would agree with that yeah i would agree with that um but yeah i don't know i just find it hilarious that they're gonna block emotes for it are they gonna block the the word simp then in chat are they gonna make that banable maybe you can't say simple or simplicity yeah it's not that simple well that's offensive anyway because that's like saying someone's stupid you can't do that you know what will happen if they ban the word simp they will find a new word yeah of course there'll be a new word and then no there's simp is already like the fourth fucking word and to mean whatever this means i want to see simp is almost an evolution well i mean it's not the same as a cuck but it feels like cuck has fallen out of parlor falling out yeah cuck is someone who has had no no he said there's a difference yeah just like bait beta jumps into this group of words as well yeah like beta simp cuck um worthless disgusting troglodyte you know it's just they're all in there i just um i i uh i think we mentioned before we started but i think the simp economy can only exist in our the modern landscape you you didn't have it wasn't so easy to be a simp you know 50 years yeah because everyone's got way more money so you can just sit around and throw money at women who don't give a fuck about you i think it's a lot of things right yeah it is a lot of things because it's the economy part is because they have this expendable income to just throw it women on the internet because yeah you think that you're gonna have a chance with her ever but you can you can simp for guys as well though right um it just doesn't happen though that's the thing that's i'm sure no it does absolutely happens but it's not the uh it's not i would say there's not doing it out there that's some some weird romantic or sexual or odd relationship kind of connection yeah because it's a it's a weird paradigm right it's like and it's the whole i think it has a lot to do with the whole um stacked i guess you know like if you're a personality you're like a celebrity or something people know you but you don't know those people they you know there's an there's asymmetrical information uh in those instances people need to go outside and talk to real people well i mean it's not illegal is social distancing yeah well what yeah when it's over so anyway i have provided a watch together link we got we get before we get to our main event it's just something there's something to check out right and it's funny there's a little bit of a little bit of extratism is to it as well but we'll play it first i want to see everyone give a reaction and then i'll contextualize it because i'm i'm that's what we do that's what we do so everybody everybody jump in if you can yeah we got we got four so far someone's missing jay how did you know i didn't we guessed i love spider man home oh Jesus oh my god so so some in chat will know where i'm going with this this is not a video we're we can't cover 25 but it's a video before covering our 40-minute video okay it's not gonna happen so are we out of the pre-intro are we into the intro this is the intro now yeah so 22 we'll go we'll go 1740 leading from watch oh yeah okay well yeah i know so the only context you need just just to react to this bit uh you've all seen far from home yes buddaman oh well i have it you don't you'll just you'll it'll be fine so the uh the the thing here is it's a brown table video talking about the fundamental flaws of far from home and uh high top films who we've covered previously has a little has a little cameo in there and we're gonna uh we're just gonna listen to something change every spider-man homecoming oh wait why did it drag us back oh i'm still seeing cats versus invisible wall okay you can see you yeah oh there i go oh geez we're bouncing all over the place we watched the first five seconds because that's also confusing okay i love spider-man homecoming i know that's a weird way to start a video but i have to say it there we go that's a weird way to start a video i like him really that's weird i don't never happen to me by saying what i like because i like some horrible thing to do it's like yeah he likes some art it's not like it does not like also something like why'd you say that man what why why was that the thing that you decided to say well i mean there's a part in this video where he said like i'm not forcing you to agree with me it's like yeah thanks dude like like forcing me to agree with you well it's possible skin fairness we're a part of the community that thinks that's retarded they're a part of the community that thinks you have to do that like that's that's one of the biggest things that splits the community start with your feelings are yours and we're like what the yes of course i don't know like my immediate question is how does one force somebody else to have an opinion how do you do that you just tell them that they're wrong yeah but then yeah idiot all right weird anyway let's get to the the point okay here we go to fix all the small mistakes we have made my fear is the lesson kids will gain from this spider man is that if you idolize a billionaire just long enough you'll be able to punch the people who are fucked over by that billionaire and his bodyguard will start fucking your mom this will give you the validation you so desperately desire what kid looks at this movie and thinks that these crazy people um so i saw that on twitter as a clip and i was like what what do you how do you want how do you okay look i know that there's a lot of people who don't like mcu spider man there's a lot of people in chat who don't like mcu spider man that's totally fine but i think most people will be like um i don't see how that how you i don't know how he contextualizes vulture and mysterious being people who are fucked over by iron man it's like it's a little bit more complicated than that isn't it also the implication that the only thing to respect about iron man is the fact that he's a billionaire that's it's not like he's a hero and that's the reason why peter respects him well that's the reason why people in the audience love iron man it's not because he's a fucking billionaire because he's a good man that's the important like that's what i mean it's funny right because his implication is that this is a simplistic world view that people are going to get and it's like your worldview is kind of simplistic if you look at iron man like oh it's just a billionaire he's not a good person he's not a human being oh i need to know is that he's rich is that if you simplify the worldview that it presents it gives you a simplistic world view yeah pretty much it's that's actually a great quote i'm gonna steal that at some point stealing j quotes that's where we're at um so yeah it just it come this is the thing i i know high top relatively well at this point i even i tend to watch his videos when they come out because he's he fascinates me uh but this this even this one i was like and he got he got kind of clipped with this and a lot of people were like this is insane on twitter and he was like they take it out of context and um what what builds up to that moment is him explaining the flaws of i guess far from home in terms of representing a spider man character and it amounts to more so like spider man supposed to be like a working class poor dude who's working really hard to balance his whole life and learning the responsibility of gaining power that he's always would have wanted but didn't realize you know it cost him so much that sort of thing while far from home and homecoming have daddy billy and they're looking after him in any way shape or form so it ruins the whole thing which to me is always extremely like really just not taking any of the pluses and the the interesting elements of mcu spider man or the meaningful like just terms of growth it has to be that he's poor it's like all right all right um but yeah it was funny because i looked into just people responding to him and man he's like he's a controversial figure in the spider man community i didn't even know there was a spider man community but like some people they're fucking hate him they're like he's toxic his only goal is just to you know split to everybody and to hate on people's feelings and stuff and i was like oh my god it's like it's like us it's like us like us you can't have feelings or happiness or joy in anyway because you know high top uh it's like ramy spider man videos there's a lot of good references in there like for explaining uh i guess arcs or what things what references can be interpreted to what things it's like it's a good way is mcu stuff though like we like the one where he said far from broke his heart is like all right i guess the problem with the broader message in a lot of these mcu videos is the implication that the mcu was not creative and that it's not artistic and that it's and i don't like that i don't i think that it's i mean most people try to ignore that guardians one and two exist whenever they say that because most people like have you met anybody who hates guardians one and two is like no and what about for ragnarok oh that's corporate product that's like totally different from all the other Thor movies and has its own unique uh comedic style i do want to see what uh sorry no i was basically um when it comes to his ramy videos i'm gonna have to disagree i don't think he sucks that ramy shaft a little too hard oh he's definitely like a big ramy fan and i one of the things that i found interesting right was he did spider man three and he was shitting on abby arid which is funny right because abby arid was a producer on several good superhero movies he did a lot of bad ones but like he was a producer on iron man one um and he was talking about how for spider man three abby arid's like you got to do venom he basically told him like you got to do venom um and it's implied like that that requirement alone is you know that can't be allowed for a producer to say yeah well it's one thing the two interesting counter references you could have right one is as far as i'm aware by the way because i'm got like an article to reference for this but um kevin feige forced iron man to be in civil war and as far as i'm concerned civil war without iron man would be a hell of a lot worse yeah he's integral to civil war and then simultaneously when have we heard that before free uh somewhat something being forced on writers they're the writers fucking fumbling the ball i think it's um i think it's just not it's not of it's not something i agree with no i don't like it but restrictions and limits can be an opportunity to do good things yeah within reasons this is the thing right if you've completed lord of the rings in your script and then someone's like it has to have a main female character and you just go fuck it and you blow up the whole thing and everything's nonsense and it's like you didn't have to do that you could have had that female character not that again are an existing character yeah you could have and that's the thing i'm not advocating that uh we should just be like yeah fuck it whatever that's fine you be annoyed but also you don't have to give up you could be like well like if you get told you need to do venom it's like you can find a way to make that work of course you can any idea can work pretty much um there are good ideas and bad ideas as much as there are good execution yeah exactly it's all about the execution fundamentally like you can come up with the greatest idea in the world and it can be a terrible film conversely you can be presented with i mean i'm pretty sure there's an author who made a bet on a terrible idea that he could make it into a best-selling series and he did and it's like yeah uh i can't remember it was like a fantasy he's a fantasy writer and it was basically a series that was based on a terrible idea and he turned it into this big series that was successful and it's like yeah that's fundamentally it it's the whole idea of the ideas are cheap good ideas are good ideas but they're still cheap it's execution like and also this whole idea of like oh unrestricted creativity the lot naughty dog has no producers and look at what's happening right now i don't know i don't know what you mean is creative yes what's that sorry it certainly is creative what they came up with when it comes to like that at least that's them fucking up on their own terms you know yeah i guess i would rather hear the writers made a shit decision than the writers were forced into doing something shit sure um i would agree with that i guess um i guess what i'm trying to say is that i don't necessarily like the school of thought that the best thing for creativity is no restrictions no limits unlimited money you can do anything you want because that sometimes yields some very bad results whereas a lot of the greatest things ever made were made with restrictions time restrictions money restrictions i think um actor restrictions yeah yeah exactly what was um what's uh the guy made uh atlas uh not no uh elito what was it uh Rodriguez what's his yeah um i think he uh he wrote a book where he was talking about how he made his first film el mariachi which was made for like no money at all and he said stuff like demand to not have enough money like demand to not have all the money that you want things like that place restrictions on yourself because it forces you to think more creatively and i think that i largely agree with that surely you have restrictions anyway and you don't have to replace you don't have to place them on yourself i'm gonna say be careful because that line of thought can drag you into destroying yourself couldn't it i'm going to fucking cut my hands off i think yeah yeah but it's more like the idea of you know restrictions can be helpful is effectively sort of like the thesis of that idea you know i think people recognize it's not impressive because if you if your thing is this goes sort of back to and i will and it's it's in my list of videos to respond to after i get back with this big one when it's it's done the um the hello grito one about canon oh yeah when he talks about creativity is like any anybody can just pull anything out of the ether with no restrictions we have it's like thinking of a random number instead of trying to think of answers to questions that have restrictions if i was like i want vampires in star wars and they're the best force users i'm going to do that in episode 10 now like oh maybe don't you know well it's the thing i'm like hey stop stifling my creativity it's like uh fuck off there's no vampires in star wars like there is now that's the thing right like sometimes your idea as cool as it is it just isn't going to work and it's just like well that sucks all right gotta think of something else there's nothing wrong with that that's the process i was crazy that you could still make that pitch and have it be like maybe the fourth best star wars film wow you know as you know it maybe it could work if it was like the greatest story ever told that's the that's the whole thing the idea seems stupid but if it's the greatest story ever told you know it doesn't matter yeah if you literally just like you had the best possible star wars movie ever you know like yeah peak peak potential and then you switch out whatever the villains are called for vampires and then you've got it someone said wasn't fringy it wasn't fringed created by jj avers i read it it wasn't friggy created by jj avers why i've got a ticking clock strap like that wicked body episode i just have a ticking clock bomb strapped to my chest and yeah uh some people say you can classify palpatine and rise of skywalker as a fucking vampire is like yeah kind of i will suck out your life for us wow yeah exactly and i feel like would a vampire die in space would a vampire die when he's floating through space until he lands on one exegol or whatever would he have died if well but all it means is um and it'd be funny right like she stabs him in the heart with a lightsaber who's like oh yeah they have to invent wood and lightsaber yeah what wow just so just swords then spears like it's just incongruous wood that burns 1000 degrees like i don't think that works um fringy lives in a mystery box every every day is just more mysteries in your life every i walk outside and i see like a unicorns flying in the sky i'm like oh okay and then the next day it's like people people you know like fringy i need you for something you go what they're like i don't know well it does not like australia right the apocalypse every day it's just like oh giant spiders giant enemy spiders you've got to hit their weak point in your house that'll never get old there are just random doors and staircases that lead nowhere and you're like it's like that painting that painting with all the staircases in the air short yeah some lead into themselves impossibly you walk you walk up them only to walk down them you're like what yeah you're just like trying to figure out where you go got some architecture for you yeah man that's uh that's that's that's your australian accent going on there yeah yeah that's right good man right honestly right do the thing do the say no no yeah yeah i i don't know what you want i can't help with rags i can't help with rags i can't help saying no say no to no say yes to yes just say no to no i like everyone has different spellings of it add a o add o u no no no no no no no no and and a o you man we're just taking them vowels and it's interesting because it's uh it's kind of like you know with the australian accent if you're trying to i don't know in the same way that you kind of temper down your welsh accent so to temper down the australian accent means just less drool well yeah because the welsh yeah the welsh no would be no whereas yeah the australian accent is like no you know no well i i don't know sometimes it's no sometimes it's something else and then the absurd one for rags would be like no what about like no no yeah that one no well god damn i think that's something i don't think so i have the big no from me billy bob billy bob you know my sister but me oh my god so my god giving rights of i don't we don't i don't intend to e fap this video i just want to play it until uh for another minute and then i want to cross reference with something interesting okay spider man is a tale about growing up so why can't these films be more grown up spider man isn't a disney channel original spider man is perks of being a wall crawler spider man is insane jay you fuck your echo that jay just gonna listen to brown table talk about high top talk about spiderman spider man i need to listen to this man be wrong about spider man even another try then just all right uh let's roll it back a little bit or grown up spider man isn't a disney channel original dammit jay hang on i think just hang on let me try something let me try something here uh okay i think this chord is for some reason just fucking playing my desktop audio hang on yeah maybe we'll test it play a youtube video for yourself all right you mean say i know i'm asking a lot god dammit i wanted to play the funny clip but i can't find the correct one okay so that is i guess well we still haven't necessarily proved that have we because it could still be these picked up by his microphone yeah wait mute your microphone and then do it surely that would would that prove it i don't know actually yeah no because that would stop all sound coming from him wouldn't it have you is there a solution to this or you just have to mute right i i'm used to it as i was saying what i was gonna do i'm just gonna mute for now and then just have a poke around in my audio settings see what's going on how about you put on some headphones like a normal fucking person i'm wearing headphones how do we hear it coming from your computer normal person world whose computer's audio works i like normal piss and will this is a really interesting place turn off the audio of whatever is projecting and externally nothing is happening it's playing it might be this is happening before on discord where discord will just a fucking play my desktop audio into the call for no reason it happened on that well then you got some mutant ahead of you boy yeah i'll let you on the other side okay all right here we go man is perks of being a wall crawler spider man isn't two-dimensional so why can't these films have dimension these films are not yet but look we're not here we're not here to effap this yet maybe one day but i was just we're getting to the point i didn't press no it's okay i'm saying it's fair to react i'm just saying why can't i see him anyway spider man will constantly evolve and change like every tale every legend that doesn't mean you have to like what the mcu is changing him into can i tell you the truth but you have to promise not to get mad okay you're ready i don't like i can't love this movie i truly could not care less and you should not care on twitter i don't know you gotta put on twitter he's literally saying it's great that you love it if you have an opinion then you care like you care you absolutely care don't lie to me this is the thing it bugs you that these movies are the most exciting movies that have been made but people are gonna think that this spider man is what spider man is it bugs you don't lie it don't bullshit me this is the thing with these these guys and that's not meant in a derogatory way but it explains the opening as well right the whole like your feelings are okay or wherever he says that at what point the video and the fact they've said it so many times it's just my opinion these are your feelings too all these all these concessions it's like i don't care that you like it it's fine it's like you do though yes you do of course you do why would you make videos on it the reason why you make videos on it is because i don't like that other people like it he would say yeah i'm just gonna be honest and say i don't like that people like just say that you don't like the people like it i don't like it when people like things i think are bad yeah of course i think it's more bad things but mine's contextual if someone was like i love like the room i'd be like i mean yeah yeah it's contextual of course it's when i load something like i really despise it generally yeah like i like it like if they like it because they think it's good but it just clearly isn't good that's the other part if someone's like i love to rise the skywalk and i'm like what why and it's like i don't know i just fucking mong out and watch the lights flickered but if someone's like the carefully crafted arcs of each of the characters and the way it takes care of the star wars universe i'm like shut the fuck up that doesn't do any of that we're almost to to to the where's go with this but you have to promise not to get mad okay you're ready i don't care that you love this movie i truly could not care less and you should not care that i don't love this movie because they are our feelings to have our opinions to keep and to hold and to cherish and that's naive that's really naive things to say isn't it it's like a 40 you shouldn't care what other people think if i do exactly what he thinks of the movie why am i watching him explain it well i think if you were if you were here i think he would say no i'm just saying how i feel because i want to share that and you guys can do it too it'll be very wholesome but whether we have a point of worse this this doesn't we started talking no but when you when you came back if you had it on i didn't i didn't hear it uh like echoing so maybe it is working most of the time but i think when i unmute it meco it echoes the actual call now say something right oh um it isn't echoing oh well my circle is lighting up green whenever anyone else speaks oh ha that's what your circle's lighting up green when anyone else speaks yeah he's right kind of is now i just i don't know i just feel like this would be an issue that you've resolved by now i i'm just i mean i guess you're gonna be going i'll push to talk then i played i played um i played the jesus video did you hear it no i did actually wait was it that beatbox thing that was happening there uh-huh so my crew is big i think i did hear that try it again yeah i can hear that yeah definitely yeah all right all right i couldn't have she was alive i felt it seen now no she was alive it's going to bend to go yeah we're gonna go to bend you go to get padmein padmein help the team yeah we gotta go yeah moose to fire moose to fire gotta go to moose to fire go to go to go to go to go to go on moody we're going to moose to fire we're going to we're going to moose to fire moody oh man moose to fire isn't that like 10 hours away we're going to collect the mcmuffin moody we're going to collect the mcmuffin anakin anakin's just there like hey obi check it out i i did some modifications to me sky wait my lightsaber gun now it's also a real gun i'm a real gun obi why are you putting it in my head anakin obi shut the fuck up i'm gonna kill you shut the fuck up obi yeah okay so i want to keep in mind his very golden perspective that is you're allowed your opinions and your feelings and they're creative and gorgeous and wonderful and everyone i know where this is everyone should be happy about having them okay everyone everyone ready for this next bit yes i am i'm very ready here we go so this this is his dear devil video he is very passionate about daredevil he considers the show to be a fucking masterpiece which is fine and fair this is totally good but i like it a lot he gets a little little into it and he says something that's uh interesting you've learned something about yourself by watching these characters grow oh and if you haven't watched it yet because it's uh too slow or boring no just no you were entitled to your opinion in most cases but not this one not to me objectively speaking daredevil is incredible because of things like this and he goes on to explain yeah so uh yeah what a hard contradiction there that's interesting isn't it that's okay but we said that for a long time now everyone agrees with us it's just they just aren't willing to recognize where the line is he doesn't agree with us we wouldn't say that if something can be objectively not yeah if someone tells me they didn't like daredevil because they found it boring i'd be like yeah it's fine whatever yeah but if i said it's objectively like you objectively like boring that is entirely so did so did each other you get no opinion this time pleb so it works sometimes you're allowed it but not this time their thing and then all of a sudden everything they've been saying just goes out the window for all of a sudden objective absolutely yeah you can find anything boring anyone can it's very possible that's what i find hilarious right when he says that it's subjective he says it about something that is categorically subjective that's what they usually do yeah it's like wait what yeah like it's categoric boring is categorically like yeah i don't even know what to say to that people are allowed to find daredevil boring obviously i don't find it boring but of course they can that's the thing if they then said he goes on no like character change or arc whatsoever i'd be like so that's just objectively that point you're actually making an argument this and this is the fucker who when i made my response to him was like gorgeous opinions bro this is like i i didn't have a fucking arc that's not true that's like just your opinion dude i like him i think he's he's he's wholesome in his own way and he's insane in his own way like the melodrama of his channel and coverage is always hilarious he has kind of the same format for everything where everything is at the height of emotional stakes everything is raw emotion yeah everything's visceral guttural feeling which is yeah he's like he's constructed a world where if he were to say like he would he he could title literally all of his videos this is the worst slash best thing ever and i would not think that he thought he was being hyperbolic in any of them because that's how he presents all of his videos well i mean a good one is birds of prey right like birds of prey is a thoroughly mundane film and he's talking about how wonderful it is like it's the greatest thing ever made it's so creative and original you know that kind of thing it's so insanely passionate about everything that he talks about and yeah and you know the only other thing then is just that this was his part of his response about the what you could call controversy if his state was you got and fyi i don't think kids will actually start punching the working class because of these movies towards a joke the point was that they're sure as heck won't get the same lessons and values that they would from a traditional original working class hero in my honest opinion i do like the implication that you can't learn anything from rich people so yeah this is very poorly worded on his part because he loves batman oh he's saying that you won't learn as good values from people who were success you were like rich which i don't agree with i think that you stands again a lot from like looking at what successful people do and trying to figure out how to do that for yourself none of it is about what none of Iron Man is about like really what made him successful it's about him having that success and what he used to do with it that's what i'm saying when he doesn't need to be that's the point i'm making is it's independent of money a lot of the things that you learn if anything independent of money Iron Man has to correct the errors of his legacy be it his father's or his yeah yeah exactly virtuous at the cost to like his own self and his status quo and his like his his like sure thing business you know yeah exactly i think his frustration is the chain or at least the lack of that element from the mc spider man mc spider man is not poor that's bad and it's like um spider man's gonna be poor why because he's foreign some of the comics in some of the comics comics that i choose in my head yeah the comic you choose what about what you need in head of life and his things he started in the comics wow part of man is economically poor in the mcu there's a yeah he is poor film on the dvd uh blue rave far from home that shows him having many troubles well obviously what he would be advocating for is for it to have an effect on the plot more so than it does uh currently and yeah because what he's what he's saying here is that um you'll learn x from maybe spider man and you'll learn y from batman you learn z from iron man whatever and that he's annoyed that you're not getting the same lessons that he would have gotten from a different spider man with this spider man and i'm just like you can't learn the batman lessons from spider man it just isn't yeah well remember he made a video that's batman doesn't kill which i disagree with i don't like it when batman kills but he absolutely could depends on the context well whenever someone says a hero would never kill i'm always like i can come up with a scenario and under a minute it'll be pretty easy it's like the standard five kids versus one kid go well i think the best example is like the dark knight returns one of the most widely like a lot of people think that's the best batman story of all time he kills people in that it's it's alternate universe but he does and that's widely regarded as one of the greatest comics of all time so i don't want to say that well or do you have to disagree i do you think there are heroes who still like there are plenty of characters he wouldn't kill in that scenario nah you could you are wrong you are categorically wrong absolutely wrong but go on yeah i think you're wrong go on i'm i'm ready to fight you on this let's go what i know you can't argue the point because all you're gonna do is advocate for the plot would never put them in that position which is horseshit no no no i'm not gonna advocate for that i'm gonna advocate there are characters who are so anti-killing like in any circumstance they'll just let the six kids die that's that's still that's a mad slaughter they wouldn't be a hero they would desperately search for some other solution even if yeah no way out no no way out my whole premise is that they haven't still look though that's the thing yeah but i don't care if they look they don't find anything well they would there are characters he would not give up in that situation and still desperately look okay but i can there's no solution regardless of if you give up or not the solution still doesn't exist exactly yeah but they've not killed people what do you what do you mean for faith people that's not kill no well let's give an example right i'm gonna i've got a nuke that i'll blow up um and it will kill one million people but i'm gonna give you 10 seconds to shoot me in the head with this gun to stop it um and then the hero is like what what's what does the hero do yeah we got we got peter parker and he's he's taped with vibranium tape all over to a chair with his hand on a with attached to a gun the gun aimed at the guy's head he can pull the trigger or not i believe that i believe that peter parker would do it okay fine whatever a hero that doesn't kill people man that guy i don't believe that certain doctors would do it i don't believe that steven universe would do it so are you saying that the doctor would let the million people blow up yes that's still that's manslaughter the other person that's that's a terrible person then and i don't want to have anything to do with that perfect person how is it virtuous to let a million people die through a nuke yeah that person is not a hero in my eyes it's a whole idea i was just gonna say that sounds like a failing of character at that point that ain't no hero to a fault that is having an inability to kill even when the circumstance calls for it which is a character trait i guess the idea can literally every other circumstance except i think the i think we can we can we can alter this we we can screw we can screw j over we can screw j over even more okay so there's you got the doctor is in a runaway train that's just piling toward either a group of people or one person to the different tracks and he can choose he's he's on he's going straightforward and he can either choose to go left or right um i i think the doctor would attempt to like derail the train or some shit no even if he knows then no i get to decide the plot he can't do that why not he's got no items and there's nothing he's looking at a steel box with just a wheel why he's in a steel box with a wheel yeah the the wheels all we can interact with and he's got no screwdriver to go me and so i can save the day to think of something to do yeah he would think of something to do j face reality face it i'm not saying i'm not saying that he would you would be able to i'm saying that he would not be able to face reality and would be desperately trying to think of a solution until it was too late and then at what point he does but i guess the i guess the idea is like at which point at which point are you now culpable for inaction right the idea of like well i've made it so he has to make a choice anyway so right worst trolley it's the trolley experiment right like well yeah it's kind of obviously where i was going with that yeah i look people say j is right no wrong need not this is this is terrible you guys are advocating that through inaction you're not culpable or at least you feel like oh well i didn't choose to kill anyone i'm fine it's like fuck off i'm not saying that i'm saying that the characters would not feel comfortable making the decision because they would feel that they were more culpable that sounds the most roundabout way of saying they don't like to kill which is not in question if i had to shoot a robber to save someone's life i wouldn't feel comfortable doing it no no no culpable you said i am i don't believe you i was there oh god we've we've hit a dark time and you've had history when everyone says j is right thank you chat thank you if you think he's right you're insane you are insane like you've got serious problems i just love this scenario where the doctor is barreling toward five people he chooses to do nothing and they all die and it's like well the doctor doesn't kill so i'm an idiot is like oh what doctor doesn't kill what it's it makes sense that he did that i don't kill i don't i swear i can find examples of the the idea of uh of this argument because i will try and like boil it down as best i can is like the core thesis is you can put any human to in a situation where they will kill someone yeah it's the idea that every human being in the world including manslaughter in the uh in in this definition for sure uh yeah basically the idea of somebody tries and it through action or inaction no inaction can like if you put someone in a situation where it's like press one button and someone will die or don't press the button and someone else will die then yeah through that's the entirely our point and you will kill someone that's entirely our point it's making them make a decision to like to actually that is still a decision or it's still a decision if you decide to if you save five people or save one person you've made a decision at that point you may as well say no well yeah that's the point it means that every hero would have to face this that's the point is the idea of a hero having you cannot i know all of their autonomy to make them do the thing then yes you can well they have autonomy because i still have autonomy it's not a good choice but it's still a choice it's still a no they don't have a choice to do anything other than the thing you're forcing them to do like the whole idea is meaningless choice in the situation um i i don't agree that it's a meaningless choice it's more like i dramatically disagree that it's meaningless the whole idea is in regards to the question will they or will they not kill well in the situation where the options are literally killed or kill then they don't have a choice to not kill but which choice they make what yeah that's the idea what choice do they make you know like if if they if somebody has to die what choice do they make because that's often the conundrum that heroes face jay is right ball that loves death i mean well i mean that's that's the idea right it's like um like infamous did this thing where it's like oh you're gonna save your girlfriend or these six doctors decide like it's one of those choices right the idea where the hero has to make a choice on who lives or dies and ultimately they don't want to it's not about whether or not they want to kill somebody whether or not they're gonna be happy with the outcome whether or not they were put there under duress it's the thing when you have like a character who's got some heavy convictions about morality they should probably be able to deal with it pretty well but when you have a character maybe like dear devil who has to choose between saving five or one they should weigh on him heavily after he's done it it should be difficult yeah well i mean they they've dealt with that right when he you know wilson fisk he's like you know i gotta kill him but then then the whole idea is like you know what what is it due to you to do that you know i like that show a lot people are asking for a straw ball we can see it's more on jay's side you're just wrong it's fine it's fine they actually think it's on jay's side yeah you can tell chat are almost entirely on jay's side it's because of this notion that batman can't kill that's pretty much where all of this comes from no because you're fucking wrong oh my wrong they think that batman wouldn't kill in a scenario where he has to choose between saving one person no they've redefined it to mean that that doesn't mean choosing to kill now because they're insane of course you're choosing to kill absolutely that's the point jay's like nah you've taken autonomy away it's like no you haven't well i'm not saying they're culpable for it they're still choosing to kill well i mean i guess uh here's here's an interesting thing to do now the idea here's an interesting actually avenue to go down for that the idea of your autonomy because the reality is that human beings don't have that much autonomy also culpability shakes by your um yeah that's true and but also culpability is interesting because if it were like two 30 year old high-value doctors versus maybe a 90 year old and a five year old and you choose the two to kill two rather than the other two and you do make that choice uh you would be culpable for the the loved ones of each of those two people whichever choice you ended up going with you'd have to explain yourself i mean it would suck and you'd be like i i wouldn't say you should i wouldn't say you should go to jail or anything like legally i just mean morally you'd you'd be in a position where you're like well i mean i felt like the doctors are more important i don't know murderer i kill the child someone said yeah i think that's it wait someone said moley your example is extremely contrived or insanely contrived i don't care that's the point it doesn't matter if it's contrived it's the scenario it's possible and besides it's not even contrived a villain could totally put a hero in this position specifically for this reason i will agree that if you take away literally every decision from a character other than to kill then that character will kill like by default yes that's no it's not about it's not about taking every choice yeah because i still have the choice on who that's the that's the point who no they have no choice other than to kill yeah but the choice is who dies yeah but that that's no that's why can't they why can't they no it's relevant in terms of good discussion like because if you that case would be even more immoral especially considering what the live count would be for instance uh you press a button to kill one person press a button to kill five people or if you don't make a choice in a minute then they both goes off and fifty people and besides i want to make it harder than that like the doctor with the old and young person examples because that makes it really difficult because at least with the five and one you a hero might be able to be like raw numbers i'm not responsible raw numbers what i think all heroes will think like that though yeah yeah and if they can make that argument if they want to but with the two people what young and old and two that are middle aged but doctors or whatever age tough tough to say exactly who should die and who shouldn't be there if someone has to thank you for coming from my tattoo at the point you're saying at the point you're arguing you can make you can put out any character in a situation that they will kill like if the thing that you're arguing is if you give them no choice but to kill like you know they always have a choice to have an action then yes you can make any character kill by forcing them to kill no no they still have they have the option of not doing anything which would result in even more death then i believe that's the point what apparently i've moved the goalpost this is just different hypotheticals that are all making the same point yeah if you if you thought if you if you thought your hero was in the clear because it was 5v1 you are missing the point i don't even get it i don't know why you can't get it it's so simple right all over again keep saying we're moving the goalpost you have raga the exact same point everybody's very impassioned about this one you can tell i love this i love this chat just like jay wins directly next to jay wrong again if you think jay wins you're insane i'm sorry i'm sorry sir you have to be insane to be a nazi you have to be insane to think i'm right about this rags can be hyperbolic i'm being obviously hyperbolic about that i don't think i haven't been too insane obviously what i mean no no not touching it i don't kill i just want to bring that up because people are still fucking mad that i've said that you had to be crazy to be a nut even though by the end of that discussion we established that i was using like the colloquial term of the phrase and we agreed by the end yeah well you did fucking i wonder what it's like jay to have efab be mad at you for saying something at some point what what insane scenario is that how can this fucking weird ass audience we have are you really saying this to me like i think it applies to us all except freaky freaky already has good takes um uh well except for spider-man homecoming apparently i thought i thought that i thought we'd finish that one it was far from over the question i thought we nailed hope coming it maybe not chat i won't take everyone on stream oh well i know that adders adders is the night before christmas did you say night before christmas was boring that's like the hottest of takes i went and got caffeine in the time that you left it just went into this massive it's fully just like people yelling about who's right right and um oh and yeah it looks like i got it wrong about the the dark night risings uh dark night returns i must have mistook it for something else buffy take is this worst take my bad what was buffy take i said that it's bad for a lot of it you said it starts off really bad and then gets good and it gets really good which is true by the way that's all you ever said you've been very consistent oh well maybe they think i'm wrong that it gets good because i maybe they think that the first seasons are great oh the first season all right season one and two are bad guys sorry season one is really bad yes season two is um is pretty bad and then i was there when j one believe me chat you don't want him to be the winner of that fucking argument you don't you want to you want to come across looking good even when you lose and that's of course you don't though you're above that all of the scenarios we said i i don't need this is such a cut and dry thing apparently um apparently i'm oh somebody said i'm not wrong in anything i'm that's the i i like to think that i'm mostly right i like to think well chat saying j is right about this conundrum so clearly you must be wrong because you disagree well i mean it's worthwhile to note that i haven't been as like firm on this as you two were i was kind of like just laughing at the whole thing but i mean my perspective is the i interest scum i guess um i guess the problem is like if i were to fully explain everything that i think on this topic i'd need a while like to it on the same team well what i mean is to explain exactly what i mean i mean yeah i could boil it down to the base one but the issue is that people are going to get defensive and angry generally it's not heroic by through an action allowing people to die when they don't have to well i'm trying to bail i'm i try to boil it down more to the idea of every human being can be placed in an instance where they will kill someone that's that wasn't the argument all right the argument wasn't that it's heroic to do that the the argument that is you could take characters who are seen as heroes and force them to do that i think i think it's more the broader thing is i'm not trying to say like what my moral stance is on the actual acts themselves it's more just the idea of every human being can be placed in this situation where they'll kill someone oh cool i just got a notification for the stream oh no if i agree with fringy um yeah i was gonna say i think there are some i think that's very likely that there are some people who who physically couldn't do it oh sorry i mean like i mean like through action and inaction well then yeah i mean yeah if you don't want in the situation where through action someone dies and through inaction someone dies then yeah you can force anyone to kill someone through either action or inaction no it's to make them do the thing instead of not to rely on inaction wait so you think wait to to you can force anyone to take to make them pull the lever to take and to take action in order to save more lives i think there are people i mean i can believe this like yeah i think there i think there are some people who are that morally weak yes that they wouldn't do it yes yes that's what i was arguing this whole time well that's not what i was arguing i was arguing that through inaction they would allow death thus being the ones who essentially committed the manslaughter slash kill so we okay fine is it that we just agree but semantically categorize it differently we agreed the whole let's jay to make it to make it simple right if you had a choice to let that lever pull the lever to make it so that they didn't hit my two let's say you know 10 year old nephews versus the the 40 year old genius doctor who'd save loads of people's lives uh and they splattered my two nephews and through your inaction i'd be like you fucking killed them oh yeah yeah and you said no no no i didn't kill it i didn't fucking touch that lever and i'm like fuck you jay you let them die i mean i can't imagine i'd be very logical in that scenario i think it'd be very upset it's the trolley experiment which i think is a really cool experiment personally because a really interesting one um would it be well how do we classified legally um if he was to not touch that lever it's it's all contextual because there's like and it depends on what country and because murder is just unlawful killing with guilty minds like so intent and then you have voluntary manslaughter which is like i'm pretty sure voluntary is negligent action and like involuntary is negligent inaction i'm pretty sure that's uh the classification for them i think so too and also there's generally an aspect of duress that you're placed under in order to the good decisions that you make if you don't have the thing is just like generally if there's duress right then that changes things like if somebody has a gun it's a killer don't straw man me chat i've i've been saying kill this whole time not murder but yeah murder means i'm more if if i was to be angry at jay and say he murdered them that would of course be wrong i'm trying to argue that i would be very emotional and upset but uh we would have killed them yeah they're not going to be like arrested remember that they should i think it's about remembering that murder and killing are two different things well killing is like is described the physical thing that happens whereas murder uh prescribes moral and legal implications on what that means all murders are killings but not all killings and murders exactly exactly what a wonderful world we live in there we go we've concluded it even though i'm pretty sure the comment section will be filled with how wrong all of us i'd be curious what the point is that we're wrong like what what they would actually say is the point but i don't know i'm glad when i see people say freeing correct by the way it gives you gives you lifeblood so we've completed the intro the intro is done oh yeah we did it it was an hour and 20 minute intro and a half hours yeah excellent so today is just in time for the intro to end i was gonna say we've done well obviously that just means we need longer intros we're already time people get in here we're unironically the average podcast length from what i've seen seems to be around uh one hour that seems to be what people do we're already 20 minutes over there we haven't started yet people are weak i'll have a choice to not wait so this is the counter meme i have the choice to not kill someone right now that's not what i've been saying at all so that's the point i was made not not this is why chat is where they on these things you put the wrong face on the person it's funny because i want to reference buffy for you probably knows exactly what i want to reference but uh yeah it's fine in the scenario in the scenario there even if it's completely implausible you always have the person who tries to just go and like run over to the tracks and get everyone out the way oh sure like but that's that's adding the uh additional yeah and all we have to do is keep adding plot reasons to prevent these particular actions that you're yeah the whole idea is like i'm arguing though that like there is always the character who no matter how many plot reasons there are that they can't do it we'll still try rather than making the active decision to just kill someone or the other one oh yeah they'll try but they'll still have to do something yeah but the yeah it's not that they're yeah uh actually yeah i i i had to go how was this whole time we never said they wouldn't try yeah i mean the hands out hence the steel box with just the wheel and they have no way to interact with anything remember remember we did acknowledge that jay yeah and they wouldn't be uh they wouldn't be killing people and so far as through an action they would be killing people like they wouldn't be taking action to kill people just yeah taking no action is is is not considered a choice they wouldn't they wouldn't be taking the choice to kill people but their choice would result in the death of someone that they would be the person who killed them yeah but they wouldn't be deciding oh i will kill that person they will be going i'm going to try and save everyone well they're gonna that's what they'll say to themselves yeah i'm gonna say if they have all the information that's how they'll rationalize it if the point is this they sat down and they can move this level one way or the other and the villain's like more haha doctor will not kill i have placed these five people and that's where the train is barreling toward if you pull this lever it will then hit this small little girl bye that's they now know what they could do and if they go no i'm not going to choose to do anything it's like oh oh you just killed five people but no they would be trying to do they would be like fucking wriggling their ass sure yeah sure they will try but they will ultimately have to do something yes and they will fail but that's like an interesting test to put characters through fucking raw is the little girl black um yes i like the no i like that one no i don't know is it spelled like that also um shrimps guys wheat shrimps please stop with the shrimps it's more like pies and sausage rolls not shrimp but that's not the stereotype shrimps are delicious though i mean i i sure but it's not and here in america we don't say shrimps it's just shrimp we call them prawns we don't call them shrimp we call them prawns that's why i don't even understand why that's true we call them prawns too yeah so it's totally wrong stereotype is the point i'm making because i don't barbecue yeah put some more prawns in the barbie well we don't barbecue either that's the point we barbecue like sausages nah you replace it with a new true stereotype but something that isn't a stereotype but is true koala bears well i mean they're not bears they're mustapials i know don't have like you're sharks aren't nurses either yeah but but the different no because what do you mean i know panda bears are different like like the red pandas red panda bears but bears are a different species and pandas aren't bears either pandas are not bears no that's just what they're called yeah they're called pandas panda bear is an incorrect one they're called i know that's just the name of it people call them pandas i just call them pandas because i'm not a i'm not a simpleton most people don't call them pandas what do you mean most people just call them pandas shorter yeah argumenty fat i'm not saying it's correct right but we think they're not bears yeah but but the thing is is you use nurse bear as an analogy the different uh a nurse shark the difference is that the shark is still accurate nurse is just yeah but nurse what does it describe like what does it describe about a nurse shark are probably just attributes of the animal that people equate to nurses in some way much like people do when they call bears or when they sign a bear to pandas a nurse is like a mental attribute whereas a bear is physical you know you're a bear or you're not a bear so we agree that it's wrong no we agree because i agree panda bears aren't bears all right what's our what's the next topic then well then that leads us into our main main uh dessert main main course that's what those humans say i remembered main desert oh let's start with this i suppose this will be our bookend because it's uh this is this why it's totally an interesting thing to do so cosmonaut uh made a video on the prequels and he considers it uh what does it say but i think this is a video is honestly the best i've ever made um so we're gonna be checking out his top tier content is everyone excited but there's a couple things we're gonna do is a preamble all right because there's a few things we've got to get out of the way in terms of just understanding how he rates movies because we're not all the same all right as you saw with high top he's very definitive you can have your opinions except when you can't so we need to remember these sorts of things when we're going through different videos so we're gonna check out his tfa for video first just for a little bit and uh these these timestamps were very graciously supplied to me by uh sophistic autistic because i knew of some of them but a lot of them i was completely lost on but they're they're just helpful in terms of uh figuring out how he ranks things so we're gonna check that out respond a little bit to it here and there um and then we'll get to the main event oh well i guess we have to wait now yeah i guess there's something to read while we wait i'll get a drink oh there's some good reading material while we wait this tweet wait what tweets could be really material i put it in the chat what is this it's about animal crossing by the way animal crossing um all right let's see if i can get it on uh it is well known that leftists have a penchant for feminine or female like activity this is why somebody trans women are leftists why they care about feelings and emotion what over facts logic and rationality there you go j that makes sense you have to include the words over masculine things like facts i didn't honestly i didn't know that facts logic and rationality were masculine facts are male you can tell from is that true see see how the f is kind of like a penis that's that's the tell and yeah that doesn't count on feelings because our emotion feelings don't count because it's followed estrogen well that's gonna say the the penis doesn't count on feelings because of the two estrogens that follow it it counters it what if it's about dick girls well then i don't i don't know but anna you agree with this right facts and logic is a male thing right what facts and logic they're a male thing while emotions are a female thing i don't know anything about animal crossing but um neither does this guy he says he says that his diatribe about it but he's not played it wait so i've been okay so it's right did he do a poll on trans women to see what their political leanings are i i'm gonna be honest scientific poll i doubt it but no i well of course you did all right let's see so facts and logic are masculine traits yeah that's that's and we only get feelings in him fuck him him and feelings and emotions they're okay you're all right you got something yeah you know we you know we just get to know things that sucks i uh i like because i'm reading it right now i've been thinking about animal crossing it seems to be a primarily leftist phenomenon i don't see many people in the center or right to scut imagine living in a world where you base like your worldview on i wonder how many people in these arbitrary political labels that mean nothing are talking about a video game like just imagine living i feel like plenty of people are all over the political spectrum play animal crossing like what the fuck no leftists only i have some thoughts philosophically i like the idea that it can't just be it's fun to just complete these really effortless tasks at your own pace and build a little animal town there's nothing entertaining about that innately i want i want to pass more games through this person i'd be like metroid man or woman game metroid well it's a woman game because it's a woman no man game because you have to use logic to defeat the enemies yeah and you have to kill things which is a masculine thing to do eating oh i want to see the video where it's um samus aron destroys metroids with facts and logic i want to see the compilations you know and then you got samus standing on a leg turn and then the metro it's like i feel like you're not considering my feelings you know facts don't care about your feelings um is rags back yet i hope not is he delaying our intro uh wait no we're not in the intro now we're in the main thing it's fine we beat the intro we're we're introducing the main thing no how you doing anna you're right sleepy i'm uh i'm i'm all good i should be good for a good long time i actually slept just before this started so hyper energy levels uh bringing you're mostly the same right i mean i work up but i do have uh things on what are you doing i want to get a drink and it took me one minute you worry we had to get a drink go pee go outside oh my god all right so i'm gonna get started then this is you can comment comment freely because this is stuff we're responding to now but this is gonna we're gonna try and outline how he judges stuff okay star wars the force awakens is the worst movie ever made at least that's what i would say if i was a fucking moron if you go on youtube man we've got a good start here it is really bad that makes me want to that makes me want to make an entire video that's just like changing the perspective changes but you know like starts out with a very strong statement it's like that's what i would say if i was dumb is the kind of thing an idiot would say and then just like every second it trade changes perspective and you have no idea what the fuck is at least it would change if this video is shit yeah all right let's go this video is going to be planning as a whole thing now about the force awakens everybody likes to complain about this movie it is the new hot thing to do but but it's bad though yeah it's really bad movie but we were watching the prequels one we are this is this is an intro to his uh rating system how he how he says something is good or bad the movie's disappointing it's a ripoff it's worthless i like most people went and saw the force awakens and came out of it pretty satisfied i'd say that opening day of the force awakens was one of my favorite movie theater experiences ever i had a pretty good audience this meant that not a ton of people were cheering incessantly and clapping really guys you need to stop doing this i was lucky when i watched this you won't need to tone down yeah you can make fucking youtube videos you are not allowed to be happy in a movie theater how dare you be fair on a movie theater you should shut the fuck up no hang on because when cap lifted fucking me all near i was more than happy for the audience to go nuts i did not the idea there's like no shut up it's like no come on okay okay choose your moments let's go with that okay well like sure i think he's talking about going and seeing it when it opened you know it's been a long time from star wars movie came out everyone's going crazy sharing the opening crawl is fine like there is nothing to cheer over at that point but cheering cheering a scene that might have a dialogue to here no sure but well to note it's pretty clear that in the force awakens they knew when people were going to cheer when the millenium falcon shows up there's like a long pause yeah there's no talking yeah the garbage will do fucking ray you're still gonna let me play ray can you do her voice oh fuck for a second i was like what in the world are you saying i was like oh no yeah i remember tfa part four mark my words in 20 august 2021 jay will have a part okay i didn't have a lot of disruptions and as such i got to walk out of the theater saying i like that ray i would watch that movie again i don't think there's gonna be too many people who are upset by this one then months this guy in his furry costume was clearly it's chewy is different rags it's different furry wonkeys are furries it's just i don't like the rules i have the same one chewy is conan canonically a human in a fursuit canonically conanically also i mean look at this still canonical the reality yeah i would want to hold up a light saber to let people pass through this so embarrassing i would actively walk around it i would stand under it i'd be like how long are you gonna hold that on buddy it's not easy i just i don't want to encourage that sort of behavior that self aware that unself aware cringe i should say jay do you think this is self aware or unself aware cringe i don't know i have to see more context just based on this picture this is soft if you had to make a bet if you had to go with one or the other if you had to make a choice despite lacking the ability to make the definitive choice you'd want to make if you have to choose between one from thing or another thing oh oh you're doing the thing oh fuck oh no no and i would say this isn't cringe i'd say these are fucking rothart cock chads yes all right then it's past and the positive buzz from the first few weeks turned into do i think it's worse than the prequels tentatively i'm going to say yes based here jay jay you're echoing okay i see why i only got dotted too it's weird i like the er's video shows up in this one because er's video was one of the ones that really spread in terms of getting people to be like tf is all very good jeez yeah probably the worst force awakens sucks now i've been planning this video for a while i'm going to go over why these complaints are quite frankly kind of stale disclaimer if you have legitimate problems with this movie that is perfectly fine obviously the movie isn't perfect i think it's okay to criticize all films this video is just an attempt to address the various nitpicks and hyperbolic statements made about the film in an effort to redeem it i don't like the framing of disclaimer it's framed as though the film is actually like okay because obviously the movie the implication is that the film is good the argument is that it's not good so this disclaimer is worthless because you're not going to accept it if people make the case that it's bad because you're just going to make them be the various nitpicks and hyperbolic statements this is worthless why would you put this in your video this is the ifo of disc there's loads of these kinds of disclaimers all they all are it's the leave me alone yeah exactly part one a carbonite copy it's the same story with essentially the same characters surrounded by the original character yes a scene for scene ripoff of a new hope by shamelessly remaking a new story we're getting to the point when it comes to film criticism i like to file criticism under one of three categories here we go the first is yes this is valid criticism you are correct jj abrams is a very objectively you might even say it's objectively valid or something i don't know what he's a very like frenetic like very quick film maker wait someone pulls i forgot to unmute it correct doesn't necessarily mean objective well if he's gonna rate it as things can be valid and invalid what system do you think he's using well as in if you were to say i don't like how similar it is to a new hope he may agree that doesn't make it an objectively bad film but that that's a valid thing to complain about like you're not wrong but it's similar to any hope he does think that's wrong well shut up an example um i just it it's interesting though that he is going to be an arbiter of valid invalid i don't know it just is uh but that's that's not really the point the point is the three categorizations here he doesn't waste a lot of screen time some of the beats maybe i missed or i felt were really skimmed over just for the sake of keeping the story going at this quick pace the second is no that's valid that's not valid it's valid to say that he skimmed over some stuff but it was valid because he was saying i feel like i mean so like what his his how he categorizes valid i here's the thing don't give me an example give me a definition yeah because an example doesn't help yeah because an example can be indicative of a lot of things i guess i think jay's probably right he he means something that can't be disproven all right okay do you think is that what that example means i don't know that makes correct reference to the i think i i'd know height up well enough to think that he would probably height up a cosmonaut well enough to think that he would probably define it as something like something that's like arguably bad but and also true so you can't say um and like obviously he's gonna be like really flowery with okay what is arguably bad i feel like he wouldn't realize it as a need to define that but i think you know um i think his examples would be like oh it's got trees in it and you don't like it because it's got trees in it invalid criticism even though that's true that it's got i think i agree that with the way that you're saying it right that that's how we would recognize it the problem is that i imagine that he would say that but there would be instances where what he describes as valid is just flat out the metric of objective subjective you know what i mean like like he would class invalid like oh this is a movie that had uh like you know it had Han Solo in it oh that's valid and then it'd be something like the movie has such and such issue and he'd say yeah that's valid it's the conflation that i don't like and it can be she said because what she said sounded way more on the subjective side it had to be correct but it was still on the subjective yeah she could probably she could argue it uh depending on your references right the idea that he's skipping over story beats in order to well he's skipping over details to get the story running i probably say that that's true yeah provable who take a while as long as you're correct in the end it's valid well yeah i don't know is that what he means i don't know because here's the thing he has two he says he has three categories but there's already he's already set up a dichotomy funnily enough guess who's the example for category two um yeah all right also i thought the stormtroopers were all clones of this cold-blooded assassin guy but it turns out the clones are decommissioned off-screen and now these are just programmable humans so er said i thought the stormtroopers were all clones or descendants of this guy which the stormtroopers in the ot it's never explicitly stated what they are but we assume from the movies that they're conscripted just units from different planets that are they started out that way but then people signed up in between the prequels and the ot is basically so if er said aren't the stormtroopers supposed to be clones i'd be like oh i don't think that that's a hard fact in the in the six films that we had i don't think that was uh something but um he but the thing is that's like an afterthought the point he's making is well now they're all brainwashed uh people it's like so that's not incorrect as a conclusion like it's he's he's got a detail uh what they're brainwashed i was just explaining his thought because that is a common misconception yeah i think it's a fair thought is he is he complaining that it's not explained that they were decommissioned he's making a broader point about uh i'm just saying that this is what he thought if we if we just replay it quick because that's his thought yeah this is the second one i thought this no that's not valid criticism you are wrong also i thought the stormtroopers were all clones of this cool blooded assassin guy but it turns out the clones are decommissioned off that's not even criticism he just says that's what they are now yeah i thought this but it turns out that this yeah that's not even fair you can't criticize this as being criticism and making a statement that's what i mean like a better example would be loot skywalker in return of the Jedi as out of character you know he he based on what we saw in the previous films he wouldn't want to save his dad that would be invalid that would be incorrect criticism yeah but being like i thought they were axed tens out there why it's like bad criticism that's why it depends how you that's like it's you could just change the tone a little bit and that's like clearly a criticism or clearly not a criticism it's like you know i thought the clones i thought the stormtroopers were clones i mean i just assumed he was making a wider point i don't know where this is snatched from specifically you know i don't know if that was the end of the if he ended it there he was like like if if yark it was here right now and he said no my point was that they fucked it up in the sequels and that the stormtroopers are not clones anymore i'd be like oh well that's not a contradiction or anything but i don't think that's what he was saying i think he was just saying like this is what they are now this is an odd example to use you'd think that you'd want to get a really really strong example of someone just flat out being incorrect definitively saying something that isn't true instead of saying i thought something was the case but it turns out some of the things this is but this is such a bad example all right this this is a really bad example yeah this is a and this needs to be your strongest example because it's the first the example as you're explaining what the you know three categories are and he's like oh out of two are clear both category one and category two the especially the first one i i don't quite get what he's saying and here i don't get what the example is in relationship to the category i just want to highlight as well it's called it's okay to like the force awakens that's the day with a fucking video that's right it's a defense movie it's just funny to me i'm like yes no i just want to find those people who are ironically saying stop liking this it's bad like morally as we mentioned earlier we have by liking the force awakens you make entertainment well that's a different argument that's not like morally i'm not it's not like we're saying it makes you a bad person to enjoy this especially with reasoning being like i don't know i just casually enjoy a movie with action in it but if they were like i love this because it destroyed by paying money to disney i'm destroying the movie industry but you create shit art you could that be like wow you're a dick that's like your only goal insidious goal of somebody i shall keep watching the force awakens and like it's someone who works in radio i just like really salty about tv and film as evan pointed out it's like a less hyperbolic version of the one we covered in like 50 e faps ago it was like you have the right to like the last jedi that's the toxic rude one yep that's the toxic rude one he was great oh these are just programmable humans the third is yeah you're right but like it's not that big a deal let's get qualified yeah so that's that's category one it's correct that's the thing you've already set up with category one and two you say all right i have three categories category one it's correct yeah category two it's not correct and like but there's nothing else it has to be one of those surely yeah if anything category one should be your right and it matters category two should be your right and it doesn't matter category three would be you're not right if he wants to split it that way i guess if you want to be like this is just like category one be yeah instead of third category and but then it opens up because you know we have a system for this but i'm curious what he would say a system is for defining whether it's a big or small deal because if you remember hello grito thinks that the hyperspace kamikaze is just details it's a small thing yeah it's just details unless he thinks that um ace in nitpick is not valid criticism he's like and unless he's saying it's not valid because it's so small that it's not like a valid way to criticize the film i thought that this was him saying you are valid definition but that's what that was my problem with the first one is like what are you like valid but yeah he said like oh there's a lazy pixel on frame 567 uh where the one of the pixels uh sticks the wrong color for too long you're like the easiest way yeah right but that's not a consequence if the error is in consequence then it's a new pick it's still wrong but it's not it doesn't affect anything else whereas an actual big problem would be something that affects the thing like this is what and this is a problem is when he says you're right but it's not a big deal it's like in whose opinion because what is a big deal is absolutely subjective it's very subjective what somebody thinks is a big deal impact isn't necessarily subjective i was gonna say you could you could line this out i just don't think he will like uh i guess um since he didn't define his terms like and in the first category for valid that could include like in his mind consequential it has to be consequential to be valid but he didn't define it yeah wow that was we've defined it yeah like in my in my role i think has defined it pick what are the do here on efab baseline criticisms of efab to begin with of these sort of video essays is that they'll be vague enough that you can catch all most of the audience as in i'm watching this and i'm like oh category one means like a continuity contradiction and category three is when it's a continuity contradiction but it doesn't really matter and he's sitting next to me like no that's not what i mean at all and someone else is like yeah he meant this and then he's like no that's not what i mean at all but it'll work most people will just watch this and apply their own rules and be like yeah i agree with him he's right yeah because there's five of us and we can't quite get a grasp like really stopping the video thinking about it looking at how he frames his examples and we can't quite get it yeah he should have done this when he wrote this script that's the thing well this is the thing his videos would be much longer at that point you can't have that oh i don't i don't mean that they could be as brief as they are now it's just more like i guess that's how much time did he spend figuring out exactly how we wanted to word this to make it as clear as possible what he meant i feel like he didn't spend that long because looking at yeah you're right but like it's not that big a deal this all right i guess we need to see the example for what that is so get over it most of the criticism aimed at this oh get over it okay after it's now correct that is yes she used to be with uh screen junkies i believe before she's split off okay but even if it's examples when he's telling us to get over it is like but it it feels like you need to be the one to get over it because it is a problem but you're trying you're really trying to sweep it under the rug and act like it isn't a problem i actually like the point of that yeah well it's like if you're saying the film is bad because x and it's like you know there's a lazy pixel here then you would have a point you know it's like that doesn't make it a yeah it yeah you're you would be correct in saying that it's a problem and he would say oh it's it yeah but i mean it's inconsequential and i'd be like yeah i know but still a problem and then if someone's using it to argue that the film is bad then they can yeah like get over it yeah the whole idea is he's framing it as though you need to get over it when clearly he's the one who's upset you know what i mean like if you were to say there's a dead pixel there and he's like oh yeah it is but it doesn't ruin it for me and i'm like oh i'm just saying there's a dead pixel there and he's like all right shut up you know it's like oh that's like you're upset yeah i guess like you need more context for any specific example well let's let's see this example this video is i'm upset yeah the tone is i'm upset that people are nitpicking like it feels like the you know how in school when you're in school or these kids would be like oh you do this and then you be like no and they're like come on it's not that hard it's like what's not how you fucking do it it that's how it reminds me of the whole idea of like it's not a big deal well if it's not a big deal then shut up about it like let me keep saying it yeah even his example and his defense of this video was er who maybe was had an incorrect thought about a different movie i mean this is what i mean surely there was something better he could have chosen than that oh of course yeah because eos video is pretty great but like there's gotta be something instead of maybe that's kind of revealing i don't know that's all he could get it's like this stray thought he's like you're wrong what is the example not all of it but most of it this third category might seem a little odd to you if criticism is invalid then how can it not film falls under category three so most of the criticism yeah most of the criticism of tfa is category three so it's true but it doesn't really matter oh i see that he's catalogued most of the criticism all of the criticism and immediately you're like i wonder if you're biased towards this film even that i feel needs a little elaboration what if there are three huge plots contrivances slash contradictions but there are five nitpicks oh yeah there's five nitpicks now that's that's most of the criticism that doesn't mean the movies gets off the hook now whether whether like a really poorly thought through film most of the problems will be really small but it'll be like a death by a thousand tiny cuts kind of also a few big cuts yeah big cuts as well a little big old hulking cuts it was cut a thousand times and then smashed into lots of tiny pieces with a guy is that max landis yes huh i like this mean slander calrissian i've never seen him without short hair before like really short hair like that so i was just like the face no no no no i have a high ground no from my point of view the anime writing not all of it but most of it this third category might seem a little odd to you if criticism is valid then how can it not be a big deal well usually it means okay i don't think many people have a problem with that concept do they yeah i think i think those casual people i think it's the opposite i think most people like oh yeah i just don't mind by the way he did just call it valid so it does also fall in the category one then yes yeah his categories are dumb his very strange categories should just be category one yeah i guess category two no that's his system just have two categories and one of them is it's on a spectrum of how impactful it is why don't just have one category that's like this is a criticism why not just fucking drop the facade and be like i don't know i'm just gonna say how i feel about this stuff have pie categories pie categories means that the criticism is what people would call nitpicking i'm gonna keep talking to you guys like your children because my comment section on star wars videos is pretty fucked up i really hate to say but this video is completely ignorance don't take his words or else you will be trapped in the division bird cage division big jay you're you have to jay you need to be on push to talk oh is it doing it again yes fuck you need to go push to talk you clearly can't handle technology jay you're in the division big you're in the division bird cage you need to divide your sound by a lot of numbers i really hate to say this video is completely ignorant i like comments like this do i can write any videos to youtube comment section and find anything that i want i'm okay with this one i'm okay with this one he's just highlighting for a joke he's not saying like this is the this is the state of tfa attackers you know he's not doing it like that like i'm okay you know he's a lot of people do it that way they're like these are the state of the arguments from people who are on the wrong team that they show just some retarded person like stop so let's go through the first complaint that people like to latch on to as far as the force awakens is concerned it's also the most popular yeah we're going to 505 by the way we're almost there the force awakens is a rip off of a new hope when i watched the movie i thought that was kind of on purpose like i don't think disney thinks that people are dumb do you think they yeah again i want to clarify my problem they did it they did it because people would realize it and i always want to clarify with people i'm like it's never that it's a carbon copy is my problem it's a really shit carbon copy is my problem like the idea that you could clone tfa the new hope or even literally remake it and do everything the fucking same would it then not be a strong story but a copy it'd be like yeah i guess but that's not what we got still a fair criticism to say like this is uninspired this is a copy no i think so yeah it did it secretly and thought nobody would notice you think that they were like oh we're gonna make no specifically did the copy because people would be familiar with it and so they'd like it what you think they played a super safe bet i was gonna say we can play this game we can play this game all day it's like did you think they would try to do that it's like did you think that we thought that they weren't thinking to try and do that it's a super corporate move that they make i thought it was obvious why does he keep talking about like why people are saying this and not just the observation like like if i said oh yeah it's a copy of the new hope and then he's like what you think they don't know that's like i'm just i'm just saying like it's not why is he so obsessed with the reasons why people saying these things the point i'm making you know make this on anything also it's not like they didn't come close to a new hope in terms of execution i'm sorry you think luke's character is inconsistent with the original trilogy what you think disney didn't know that you think there's polls do you think they didn't put them there okay it's exactly the same we're gonna make the same movie and we're gonna be rich and it's gonna be great that's not how it works no i'm pretty sure that's what that was how it works i think that is i think it is how it works they're like yeah we need to make something get super safe and extremely similar to star wars episode four so that we'll make a shit ton of money and ironically they did probably the best thing they could have done for a start they were like let's go save first let's re-establish ourselves let's be like star wars is back baby that sort of thing instead of being like let's go with the tlj sort of thing first we'll be like whoa what is this crazy new thing even though they're both shit the point is that they were like yes let's give the fans something they they felt was familiar i'm pretty sure that was their very much corporate plan i don't see how that wouldn't have been there the idea that that film is creative i'd be like it's just possible sense of the word you can still say like yeah i i still don't like okay it was on purpose like it was on purpose is what what a fucking defense like dude you stabbed me i meant to do that though like oh but i still don't like it bro yeah you're good no you're good bro as long as it wasn't an accident so you're fucking dumb i'm gonna explain why it actually works pretty well star wars is a simple fucking story it's about good versus evil and that is it okay that's oh is that how generous we're gonna be oh boy that's meaninglessly generous oh boy that's brought to the point of uselessness i was about to say like uh to a degree you could make the argument that almost everything is about conflict story wise and that one side is more moral than the other therefore everything is good be bad and it's just like one minute about how he literally has cotor on the screen and he's trying to argue that star wars is simple just about good and evil and that's literally a story um he might he might go on he might have a an asterisk so he might go on to qualify this a bit we'll let it play a bit just to see if he does mean sometimes the more daring star wars stories can do pretty well star wars is good at sticking to the concept of good guys versus bad okay so now i'm just confused he said that it can do pretty well when it goes outside of this but it's good at sticking to be a good this is bad it's like oh i like that it's simple it can be good when it's not simple but it's good when it's simple whatever it's good this is like game makers toolkit yeah if you were gonna be a director and you were watching this video to help you you wouldn't fucking learn anything use you what a great rule it's like always do it this way except if you do it well a different way like those restrictions of star wars should be simple i don't know that i agree with that well i don't even agree that it is simple the idea that it's a simple conflict with vader palpatine luke family interactions and the choices people have to make i'm like i don't know this isn't fucking telly tubbies maybe that's an unfair comparison ad guys and what it means to be good or evil surely what it means to be good or evil is not simple though i don't know they're all the same i mean you could go back to the intro and talk about the morality of the situation that's not you know one-dimensional that's a very complicated question because then it also brings up the what point of view are you looking from are you if you look from this point of view then this is evil if you're from this point of view the jedi are evil no no very complicated which is why people love this kind of shit like just look at dark vader's entire art that's complicated as fuck but all right you want to think simple dude whatever the original trilogy conveyed this idea pretty well a lot of people say the prequels are better than the force awakens because at least they're original and this is by far the dumbest shit you could ever say oh now you can see how this is relevant to today's tree uh their original is that right so this is a common argument that tfa is a rehash of the prequels were uh you know building up themselves they are their own thing that makes them better than tfa and i'd be like i could go with some better reasons for why it's better than simply it copycat versus original work but i still think that stands true the prequels are much more original than tfa the prequels show us how dark vader became dark vader what what do the sequels give us allegedly allegedly let's show you how we can destroy every hair i was gonna say what even is the point of the sequels what would you what i don't know i don't know rey is awesome is that everything let the past i killed a crafty that's what the sequels are about Luke failed hard failed layer failed it's these characters who are going to fix their problems and fix it off for good none of our classic trilogy trio of heroes got to see got to live while palpatine died like none of them saw his death you know what i mean none of them were none of them lived in a world where palpatine was defeated chewie did yay chewie did yeah chewie did chewie and r2d2 yeah oh and c3 pio and lando it's true the ones everyone cared about hand luke layered there those three are all right i guess luke's force ghost saw it yes you're right as rags pointed out previously though with how force ghosts work in the sequels why even be alive memory i love the idea of the force ghost told himself that he forgives himself and that got him to be good like man that was easy the force ghosts are like we did it guys we finally defeated palatine and the heart is just there they're like what are you and he's like kyla's memory i don't know i'm just as confused as you guys are first off calming kylo that's what my fucking name is yeah i guess let me just kyla kylo's also there is a force ghost he's like i don't know he's following me around at this point i'm going i'm gonna bring up an example so careful in the force you can see his memories they're just around king shows because that's what real internet critics do i watch a lot of cooking competitions that's why i'm such a good chef you know when you're watching one of these shows and alton brown says i'm gonna give you half an hour to make jalapeno pop he's so he's gonna make the argument that just because it's original doesn't mean it's better than a copycat um for example if i said it's actually uh similar to shad's argument about spaghetti bolognese right like if if rags ask for spaghetti bolognese and i give him uh a chocolate bar he's like what the fuck and i'm like i'm reinventing spaghetti bolognese okay but the the the failing of this argument will be that uh that implies that star wars has to be one specific thing and uh the prequels cannot fit inside star wars compared to i don't know tfa i guess is food analogy is difficult when compared to media there's a lot of variables that are being ignored oftentimes first and you think yeah okay a jalapeno popper i know what that is i've been to fucking chilies but then one of the chefs goes into the kitchen says i definitely want to reinterpret what a jalapeno popper is and give a Mediterranean twist on it Mediterranean what the fuck that is not a jalapeno popper and then she makes this why yeah well but i want to clarify the how could you apply this to star wars how could you like i want to do star wars but with a Mediterranean twist if you're gonna waste my time with an analogy don't be wrong yeah i mean especially with food you surely this is possible with food well i think i think the problem is that there's nothing innately wrong with seeing something that exists and saying i'm gonna try and make it different it's execution is the important part also i watched this show but do they give you points for creativity and stuff i don't know how it works i've never even heard of this show okay but what if they try it and they say this is fantastic yeah you know the best jalapeno popper i've ever had but it's metatronia then he wouldn't use this example because it would be against what he says so he wouldn't mention that and forget it exists he wouldn't even bring it up i like the idea that he saw it in an episode and he kicked his tv he's like no no no that's not what no it's not what a jalapeno popper you can't put a Mediterranean twist on this Mexican classic you fuck this is what she makes it's wrapped in mozzarella cheese and over here you have some hummus and popcorn with a little bit of lime on top i mean yeah it's original how can you show that reaction if all you wanted to say is that original things can still be shit it's not controversial like yeah we don't know i think we needed an example for that no i don't think we did an analogy at all well look okay both of those judges maybe they don't like it what if we all tried it and all of us loved it so then it's the problem with food it's the like okay it's the ultimate subject of tisms is food yeah why is it like we say not your taste you know put someone on your tug and it says good tisms to your brain like what are we gonna do be like no it doesn't shut up okay okay i feel like i'm the only one on the planet earth that doesn't like the taste of water but i don't go around saying everyone else on earth is wrong because there's water i mean i find it's probably not even related to taste whatsoever but when i'm super thirsty water tastes great quote-unquote when i'm yeah well there's a lot of different kinds of water water tastes very different depending where you get it from true very true i've said that before and people don't believe me they say no all water tastes no it doesn't those people of evil stop them they're clearly yeah those people are dumb if you think our water tastes the same you're fucking wrong yeah water in full michigan tastes the same as like the water that gets pumped through luxembourg unless unless we're specifically referring to hydrogen and oxygen bonding together and literally nothing else and anything else in the water isn't actually the water it's impurities of the water in which case i'd say get out of my house leave you're not inviting my birthday parties anymore fucking rags hitting the nor button at that point just not nasty that looks nasty why is there why is there fucking popcorn on it my point is that it doesn't matter if something's original if it's still bad doesn't matter if it's original if it's still bad that's all he was trying to say so it's interesting it's like all right then let's figure out what bad is man i wish you would have given me wish you would have given me such elaborate examples of your three categories of criticism that are the foundation of this video but you know what it's important we know that popcorn doesn't go good on jalapeno poppers this video is only 20 minutes long you got no time to waste waste like a fifth of it's done star wars episode one is the popcorn hummus jalapeno popper it's original yes but it sucks all right so then we move over to here to get a little bit more information on the good bad argument with the kids these days yes i don't see a bad movie as something like the room or troll to these movies have redeemable qualities they're actually fun to watch they're hilarious if your movie so it's not a bad movie yeah it's not bad if you have fun with it would you guys like to highlight the issue there i had fun with episode one i had ironically i have lots of fun with the prequels so rip yeah the sequels are they tear my soul in twain yes the sequels the only fun i could get out of it is like laughing at the tragedy that is the sequels great comedy of whatever it came i am all the comedy i am always the thing that star wars was a comedy now i know it's a tragic he's well known enough to get a big hollywood mockumentary starring james franco and seth rogan then maybe you're doing something right are you making an ironic argument that's good if someone retell your story you're doing something right no such thing as bad press folks if someone does this you've done something right about how bad this thing was yeah i've never seen downfall yes i thought you'd bring that point up yeah fascinating it must be amazing because it's being parodied so much fascinating what about prequel means surely that means the prequels are incredible because how much we will be able he will address that eventually in this this adventure we've got going oh what i'm saying is that special pleading baby succeed at making you laugh at them because they're so incompetent then they succeeded at something even if it wasn't intentional these are all what most people would call bad movies right well i would like to propose the idea that these should not be considered bad movies bad movies are moving around empty so bad is when it leaves you empty oh my god that's subjective oh my god my favorite part of this is the expression on my face you'll say about it but it had to happen oh my goodness a little long nephew jesus christ i love it anyway so yeah sorry a bad movie is one that leaves you feeling empty is what he said okay that's very easy to categorize isn't it what does it even mean to feel empty how do i how do i know how do i know that i'm not feeling something else you look stupid it's when you feel empty yeah empty is when you aren't feeling something else you're not feeling anything you feel empty which is something but not by the way i want to clarify so you watch a movie in 2005 and you're like god that was bad i didn't feel anything and you watch it in 2015 while high or something and you're like that was fucking hilarious so is that movie simultaneously good and bad now is it shroding his movie shroding his movie there's only one film that i've ever walked out on in the theater and it was called the fifth estate and it was so bland uninspired poorly cut it was just so it was just so bad i would never watch this movie again i ended up leaving the theater because i realized the movie has no redeemable qualities and it's not worth why do i feel like we'd be able to spot at least one redeemable quality i mean are the pictures in focus i mean is the sound quality balanced well but he felt empty oh what does this have to do with star wars well i don't care what he thinks about these other things this is how he's this is how he categorizes good and bad this is important because this will help us understand why he thinks the prequels are bad don't you all feel informed for our adventure isn't it just so clear now oh my god right like a little paragraph in the beginning of your video where you explain and then proceed with the rest of the video talking about the star wars i don't know you'll get to talk about star wars soon i guess yes we're getting there did pay 10 bucks yay with two minutes in and there's no star wars bad movie lots of edgy people like to say the force awakens is a bad movie or yes even better the edgy people the edgy somebody came up to him and said yeah force awakens left me feeling empty you just be like i won't call him a liar he's no which by the way it left loads of people feeling empty i know people who felt empty watching this film they felt he was the death of star wars and i was like oh i didn't feel that way at that first cosmonaut variety hour just yeah you just this doesn't work dude because people feel empty for different reasons for different movies it's a happy house empty for different reasons wow roll him back a little kind of bad movie lots of edgy people like to say the force awakens is a bad movie or even better the worst movie ever made a big hollywood movie that made a kerfrillian dollars worldwide and was initially loved by everybody no that movie sucks i hate that i hate that it made money so of course it was gonna make a shit ton of money there hadn't been star wars in years of course it was gonna make a lot of money just to begin with all the new toys the merch remember everyone losing their shit over phasmas costume and nobody knew that it was a girl and so when little boys were getting the costume it's like oh that was a girl you know i also i like the idea of like oh it's a movie that made money yeah it sucks you fucking idiot like what do you think like the transformers movies are if anything like it's just just keep talking does the prequel sucked yeah the prequels made loads of money i'm pretty sure that the prequels made loads of people really happy dude phantom medicine was like the second highest grossing movie of all time when it came out like god don't listen it made just under like a billion dollars yeah in truth in 1999 you guys noticing how easy it is to understand his system of categorizing what no i don't understand his system system it's so clear there's no system it's so clear what do you mean right did i say loved by everybody yeah i did because i'm not fucking brain dead i remember when the movie oh my god i i kind of felt bad for calling him an idiot but he keeps insulting everybody so you know it there's a lot of people who didn't like it when it came out there i said it it happened it was a thing besides why yeah like what some people some people's minds have changed why why are you treating that like it's insane this like that could happen i thought that was a whole thing that f1 advocates for a lot of people like edgy when it first came out you know he came out everybody liked it i can't even count how many people liked the movie at first and then realized everybody else liked it and then decided that they hate it that's not what happened and if anything that just makes the fact that they don't like it anymore it's clearly they were convinced something convinced them that they didn't that that it was bad and so they're like i say now that i think about it i like that first but now i can't not think about these problems and flaws so so that's yeah you got all that in your head think about that now when we jump into so we're gonna get a little clip here from his tlj review just to curveball it even more in terms of how this all comes together in terms of watching his videos i guess to enjoy this story it doesn't need to be predictable for you to be satisfied by it number three the hyperdrive kamikaze scene there's some people who are claiming that it is impossible to blow up a fleet by slamming into it with the hyperdrive to those people i have this to say you're a creep go away we're having a good time and go away we're having a good time we're having a good time stop pointing out that the thing that i did makes no fucking sense at all this movie go away i'm having a good time we're gonna kill this is god i'm good i'm losing it like this is the worst things to say like these are all so bad he's taking a lot of boxes here these are a lot of these things we've come across before it's like oh uh whoops no but all joking aside shut the fuck up you goddamn idiots it's a movie about space wizards there are no it's not that's not how force that's not how hyperspace travel works dude it's not it's already been established that's not how it works that's not how it happened but no movie is bad because it's a fantasy i just like you can do this for the prick wars hey spinning is a good trick shut up spinning is a good trick Anakin was right back the fuck off do you know what i mean you see you get this and you're like no he's so upset people don't like fucking star wars well that's what it comes across as bitter we've come across this before beddy types people can come across as very bitter at these videos they're like fuck you for choosing these reasons for not enjoying it it's like wow i think the main point of view it is that if you're really content with something and you don't care about other people's perspectives you don't even really think about it you don't even consider it like like if someone were to come up to me one day and be like you don't crash better could three it's a piece of shit gave i'd be like okay like it's not and you never got to convince me so i don't care and then that would be like the end of the discussion i wouldn't make a video on it of course i wouldn't because i don't even care about that perspective wow okay hi top oh well what am i yeah ah you got me there you got me oh no i'm becoming the thing i swore to destroy no no fucking rules stop making shit up to be mad his audio is clipping there yeah he just hit up to be mad about he just said stop making shit up to be mad about yeah yeah because we thought of that in our own mind and we made it up and now we're mad about this made up thing that we didn't see in the movie yeah it's invented it's not like you literally just yeah you know if it happened like like you came home upset that luke wasn't dominating throughout the whole film you're like what can i hate this for um jesus uh hyperspace kamikaze yes yes i hate it for that that's why we did it it's not because it destroys every other film this whole saga or anything i like the idea that somebody's in maths class or something and um like let's go with the easy one they say like two plus two is four and then somebody else like shut the fuck up get out of here there's a system about things called unreal numbers who fucking cares if it makes sense we're having fun go away go away get out of here i'm okay if you complain about the plot holes complain about the weird it is a plot hole this is a plot issue absolutely it generates plot holes everywhere they had to actually heal it in the next film as best they couldn't they fucked up even more i don't i don't think we can have a more definitive example of a plot hole when another the sequel film addresses it as a plot hole they're like Jesus we have to fill this plot hole it's fucked up we can't drive across this fucking road anymore it's a plot hole that's so bad that retroactively introduces plot holes to other movies hooray both going forward and looking back there are problems now such efficiency yeah it's a really talented move it it causes plot holes spinning now that's talent spinning is a neat trick yes it fucking is kamikaze is apparently even better kamikaze is a neat trick yeah editing the bad adr the wooden acting that's i'm sorry you think it's more valid to go for bad adr than it is to go for the hyperspace kamikaze really like a bad adr is worse than massive plot hole like just destroying action that happened okay all right i'm fucking dying so i'm gonna i'm gonna go to sleep really you you haven't even made it to the video we're covering this early i know i'm a disgrace can you have a nap and come back and now we'll probably have started by then um i mean how long you're gonna go well i don't need to miss all of it oh my god okay don't do it so if you're back in like two to three hours you can replace me whenever i have to leave because like i feel like i might i feel like if you're going to do a 12 hour refath i'm gonna be i'm gonna be a week when like you yeah you're still going no matter what yeah sleep for a less amount of time than you want to that's my argument i will consider it okay we'll sleep well you've upset chat this is one of the times where they actually don't want you kicked how do you feel if you got anything to say for yourself you disgusting creature um eat okay well i mean jay's channel is in the description if you guys want to check out his nonsense um it's off you're well you're welcome to leave now you piece of shit i think i'll stay all right cool it's fine oh wait people don't complain about those things those are normal things that are bad and wrong with the movie but people ignore those in order to talk about shit like this it's more fucking important how insane is this a dr is an editing mistake the hyperspace kamikaze is an in-universe plot disaster piece yeah well this is the thing adr because i actually talk about it in the tfa part three it can go wrong for all kinds of reasons and doing it it's like the presence of it means you're trying to correct a mistake it's not necessarily a bad thing if you if you do poor adr as in i'm talking like this and then i re-record my line by recording it from over here it sounds completely different in the middle of me talking then it's gonna sound really bad that would be bad adr right but the presence of it alone isn't necessarily a bad thing it means they're trying to actually correct a mistake i find that way more interesting than to say hyperspace kamikaze automatically not criticism it's like interesting system you've got there what's up by jay it's shocking people don't think that this is a problem people legit are doing better well if you remember because this is actually worse but a lot of people don't see the um the space chase as a problem how many times we had to explain it to people rags where they're like oh come on that's a nitpick it's like the whole film is a nitpick okay yes this is the core issue around to which the plot is essentially yeah about um ships fun fact you just keep going you don't like fall and then get blown up yeah it like that's the thing we don't have enough hyperspace fuel to get to this further distance it's like that's not how that's not a problem it's space no as long as you get started you're you're fine analyze a film like a regular person and don't pick apart shit with made up fantasy facts made up fantasy facts all of star wars facts are made up someone invented them like not to cite Thor but uh you're off base here buddy like all of it's made up so is he saying nobody like there are no rules in anything like a universe doesn't have to be consistent with itself i guess he's saying like the knowledge that you cannot hyperspace kamikaze is not is something you've made up while our whole argument is inference we're like if they didn't use it up to this whole this point in time then why why why why why why and then you have people being like because she invented it and it's like fuck off she invented it that makes no sense at all god if that were the case they would be using that you know for like ever the isn't that why they have it's didn't they show in the prequels how when a ship went you know pilot got shot so the ship bounced off of the shields of the main enemy ship isn't that a thing i guess in in the ot you have to destroy those shields before you can do any kind of kamikaze nah fuck it i guess you can just i mean maybe the supremacy didn't have shields and that was its weakness they didn't even try the entire time don't they reference the shields in it i just the dreadnought didn't have shields like why do you build the most important things and not have shields of them or star killer base you have it so that one random officer can just turn them off like a switch like for the whole planet you think that they'd be more of a system this was the problem with the first death star is that when you have an x-wing get close enough to it the shields don't affect it that's why they had to have the x-wings and loop go in the trench so that's why when they built the second death star they had to go to the planet to deactivate the shield so that way they could give it to the death star to blow the second death star up so why would they not have shields on their dreadnought that is chasing the last few ships of the resistance who's the idiot that made that decision but no that's completely about nonsense stuff you guys should be complaining about ADR okay oh but hey if you want me to use made up star wars facts how about in the book tarkin where they say that a ship with hyper drive if destruction on the base was the goal why hadn't whoever was behind the attack used the ship as a bomber reverting from hyperspace in close proximity to the moon um okay well it wouldn't matter what this says it's fucking third party book so yeah and also if it does say that if he's gonna reference tarkin why doesn't he reference plague is why doesn't he reference throne why doesn't he reference bane actually because he found one quote that quote that he could twist from a book where i i'm assuming somebody else hasn't read the rest of this entire page or this chapter for it to make sense if he wants really to go and get into the books you can very easily reference throne and see how this makes everything he's saying invalid but he's not he's picking a quote from a random book that is just little facts and a made up little uh space adventure movie you know all you got to do is find a movie he really really likes and and say all right so if we introduce something that was completely contradictory to all the events that you like would you still say it's not even something to concern ourselves with it doesn't even matter because i have a feeling you wouldn't do that i have a feeling like i already know you would that you will absolutely totally 100 flip entirely once it's something you don't like and i don't i don't even see the connection here how is it that he's drawing from so he's like stop drawing from fictional space facts which if i'm gonna be generous i think he's referring to like anything outside of the films but then he does it himself when we haven't you know what i mean like we're drawing from these other films that he's like lol my book you're like okay all he has to do is reference throne or reference bane because they have very specific you know examples of how hyperspace travel works and how you have to get a hyperspace lane to get from planet to planet that's one of the main plots of the second book of the bane trilogy is that they have to go to coruscant darth zana has to mask herself and hide the fact that she uses the dark side of the force to infiltrate the jedi temple to go find a file that has a dead hyperspace route to the core planet of tithon there is very specific callouts to why hyperspace kamikaze would not fucking work but he's not going to use those examples because he probably didn't read those books and he found this one example online he probably didn't go away you know he looks for it you know he looks for this like he looks like he probably yeah he probably found this one quote that someone else said on some reddit thread or whatever and he's like oh yep that'll use that oh uh a lot of people want um anomaly to join he was on the last evap obviously for the the whole thing and uh he's actually covered this i believe uh at least i remember reading it i don't know if it's like a mainline video or stream or whatever but he has um taken this down if you will uh he will more than likely come back on evap in future it's just that obviously we're uh we'll be fine with the we're good for the main cast also anna's talking more now so i'm excited i know i woke up yes drive can blow basically anything up in the extended universe they talk about it all the time man your audio is clipping dude calm his audio is clipping he's angry he's uncriticized he's angry at the pre he's angry at the prequeloids prequeloids prequoids he thinks they're prequoids he thinks people who are just angry at the sequel trilogy and love the prequels this this seems to be his uh sort of position without looking too far into it somebody said in the chat that the book that he's referencing came out after the last jedi to wreck con i don't know what he's talking about is that true we can check that surely i'm looking it up right now because i was thinking and i'm like there's books that tarkin is in but i don't i'm not you know coming it's not coming to mind which one he's talking about so let's see this was a book that came out uh no it came out november 2014 that was then uh no that's okay yeah that's just making sure but which tarkin book is he talking about then yeah i it from judging from the front cover and the thing he cited in the video it looks to be the 2014 one so okay that would be before uh no wait that would be before the movies but after disney that's after disney bought it yeah so it is still that's disney canon so it doesn't fucking count yeah and let's see author knew if the author had known what was going to happen in the last jedi and preemptively wrote that into the book um i'd have to do some research on it yeah it's difficult to be definitive on this either way uh you can easily argue that it's like you can't cite disney canon to support disney canon if our whole issue is it contradicts lucas canon well i was just referencing books because he decided to reference the books but uh if he's referencing a disney book that if anything the books that disney comes out with after the movies hurt the movies more ship with hyperdrive can blow basically anything up in the extended universe they talk about it all the time oh wait now he's gonna talk about the eu you can't all right let's hear it you can't escape like if you were to finally actually definitively convince all of us that yes it was possible this whole time it's like so why the fuck were they doing it this isn't the single most important tactic in military strategy around which all other tactics ours are based about this should be like going off of that point it's like okay if this is the best way to destroy these ships wouldn't you come up with or have this evolved tactic so that way people don't die of course and just have automated planes have droids run them just well imagine imagine if like you found out the tanks like they're super powerful but i don't know like you shoot this one specific part on the front of it it blows the bullets like you like a regular bullet from any soldier out there can just shoot a bullet every soldier in the battle has one bullet and they can use that one bullet on any tank and instantly kill it there wouldn't be that point you're gonna make countermeasures or you wouldn't be have tanks exactly that's thing under these rules why the fuck are there capital ships why are those things why are those a thing if any single fighter should be as small as possible in this yeah so that you're harder to hit and people can't hyperspace through you it doesn't work it doesn't work i don't care about book said it works it doesn't work i don't even care if that book came out before the disney canon it doesn't work there are shields we have seen i think it's in revenge of the sith in the beginning when one of the ships bounces off the shields of another ship you know it didn't fall and go comic i mean into the ship no it doesn't um i mean the speed would definitely infect your penetration that's what she said i mean that's what you guys you guys go see this but uh yeah you guys go see this what's this so i have to cry i decided the optimal being experienced the last Jedi is on a plane eight hours into an international flight oh mark oh brilliant idea ride the perfect way to prevent walking out oh my god you know what was this is this real apparently it's real i i checked the original tweet as well like it exists uh ryan's deleted that tweet since uh oh no that oh my god i think he didn't realize like let's just pretend for a second ryan was like he he i have to watch my film it's like ryan don't you see what it looks like you're saying it looks like you're saying you want to trap people into watching your shitty films i can't believe they're calling unless they open up to you on the plane it's like it's worth it he does realize though that you get multiple movies to pick from when you're on a plane right oh people aren't gonna in his will they're all the last Jedi and everyone is forced to pick and plus it's probably not a good material to be watching on a plane you know the holo maneuver yeah that's true how in the first star wars movie that ever came out they literally tell you that it's extremely dangerous to use hyperdrive in the first place that doesn't mean that you can ram it in the ships as a military tactic it means it's dangerous to use a hyperdrive oh that's some wonderful logic right there and i'm sure there's context surrounding their usage of that hyperdrive in that scenario so you have to calculate a path so that way you don't go into a star or a supernova like Han Solo explains it creates a path for you and why do you think you mentioned they're driving the Malanian Falcon the entire time because it's on autopilot going through the hyperspace lane and why do you think you mentioned those two things because they're huge and you could easily end up in one of them it's like it would be unlikely to clash with a ship or a planet considering how much nothing there is in space but you don't want to risk clashing with a supernova a star or a black hole or whatever because you're fucked but yes if you want to you can extrapolate from that that means if you hyperspace it a straight line to anything it explodes and you destroy it instantly it's just like oh that's what even it's like someone i don't know pressing the button too many times on lightsaber and it explodes and detonates the whole space station they're like hey they establish that they burn a lot of things okay like you can put it through stuff well okay if the ship was chasing them in a straight freaking line for the entire movie and apparently it doesn't have shields because the their ship just rams right through it why don't you just fight it you know i don't i don't know well they use two tie fighters they sent three but only two did anything they could use two tie fighters and just blow the thing ship not have button that you push that will shoot does that not work no anyone it doesn't matter because it's a movie about space wizards oh well fuck that that's not a valid excuse well you're just nitpicking travel through hyperspacing like dust and crops boy so it's not like dust and crops i'm sorry where's the clip we heard says traveling through hyperspace means that you destroy stuff when you hit it boy yeah this is why everyone uses it in military boy i've read a lot of science fiction from foundation to halo and there's generally it's not it's not a physical object that's traveling at these insane speeds in a straight line generally when you enter into that speed you're basically not in the same plane of existence anymore pretty much there's either the immaterial space or something as the mcu's been doing with the uh gates or whatever right where you can jump points i think it is yeah exactly you're basically just cutting it's like the whole worm hole theory right that you're like a bending space so that you can get to places one of these days i'm gonna have a heart attack in a star wars video so there are a lot of things to complain about as far as the last Jedi's concerned some of these points are valid and some are not so welcome do you remember his system so he's he's he's you know he's staying true staying true to the system like i said i remember lip service the concept of the system the system is doing this bad hot holes or the bad writing or any of that stuff i hear you really i do this movie is flawed i don't know that you hear me because you said that the kamikaze doesn't count i do think it does something special i'm gonna say something daring but i honestly believe that every star wars movie sucks really wow yeah that's where we're at now controversial if things were confusing enough already now he said that they all suck okay i don't understand you man i don't understand either i am one of the biggest star wars fans but you gotta admit it's it's done oh my god why is it what's dumb about it explain his strangling you calling it dumb doesn't convince me that he thinks it's dumb it's like why should i listen anything he says throughout this entire video about 15 minutes he says oh yeah by the way i don't like star wars and i think it's all dumb so it's like all right so you already are have a biased opinion on exactly what you're saying but then he goes and starts off this video by saying if you don't like the force awakens you're wrong let me do a whole video but then let me halfway or three quarters of the way through say oh i don't even like any of this to begin with what's his point well no you said he loves it all but no this is why it's so hard to pin down they're all bad he likes them all you shouldn't say force awakens is bad the prequels are really bad actually bad and this equals a way better even though they're copycats not all of them though but also what makes things good and bad is based on these three categories and stars is all the category that is bad it's like what yeah so are they good i'm so confused what is the state of star wars please tell me in your mind how that she strangled an alien that means bad it's like oh yeah i'm willing to bet it's probably because oh goofy high concept so it's bad that kind of thing you know the whole idea of like i'm an enlightened person i watch movies that only have human beings set on earth not like these wacky crazy science fiction stories i can't help but not see that whenever i see somebody say something like that but it's still awesome we just make different excuses for the stories that we enjoy it's we make different excuses for the ones we enjoy okay well so then by his own definition this video is just an excuse apparently i guess he would agree with that yes yeah that's his own logic that he just said his own logic for 15 minutes and then now it's just an excuse yeah by the way if you were to imagine this like scale it up and go fantasy style like we're analyzing sort of we haven't even gotten to his arguments on the prequels really yet we're just looking at the way he's setting up the fight if you will and it's just like he's just you know he places a catapult right at the front line and he aims it at himself and we're all just like um keep going i guess yeah i was gonna say carry on i i'm not sure where this is going it's like i'm gonna have several soldiers lying down pass i'm gonna pour lava over my men you're like okay is that a bait or like actually all manner of shit it's dumb but it's dumb about it we just can't just say that it's dumb for the star wars movies that we enjoy i've talked to people who hate the last jedi but then they say they love the prequels they come up with excuses for why those movies are good but that's not an excuse that's no that's not a contradictory statement you've highlighted from these people oh my god i don't know it's so fascinating to listen to it with all these things put together in my video on the force awakens i addressed this issue a bit more so i'm not gonna go in again that terrible arguments that he made like i already addressed this point did you did you know i'm very well reasoned basically this is the kind of series where you really need to just accept the dumb stuff and enjoy the stuff that you like you don't know how do you conclude that the prequels of bad and tf is good then yeah just accept the dumb stuff you can't conclude anything about anything in star wars if you do this it's all right now is hypocritical of everything he said the past 15 minutes of this video yeah i mean no movie can be bad there is no there is no bad movies and if you ever don't like a movie it's because you just need to accept the dumb stuff so i'm gonna go ahead and talk about all right so yeah so that's that for just again just extra information that is so one of the things he said if you remember in that selection was it's space wizards it's all bad and taking it seriously is like what the fuck's wrong with you okay um then we got all right so okay this is a different video again just a snapshot for you folks to enjoy in terms of understanding i have a stupid gimmicky lightsaber plus the new inquisitors use their weird gimmicky lightsaber to fucking fly like a helicopter i'm sorry but this is ridiculous anyone who takes this show seriously needs to just look at this imagine if this was in a mainline star wars movie do you understand how confusing this is yeah just accept the dumb stuff i don't yeah exactly like after everything we've just seen and then he says that you're like i but but i thought it was all stupid because it's all space wizards yeah like how do you how do you complain about this and then allow everything else i don't understand i thought you just said everything to do with star wars is bad and we make excuses for the ones we like i understand i just want to know what is your system this is important if we're going to be talking about movies especially someone who talks about a lot of movies over an amount of time this is his job no how how how is it that i have no idea whether you will like something or not i don't even think he understands because he's been contradictory of everything yeah he just goes in and if he just his feels these are good and he likes it and it makes him warm and fuzzy he'll come up with reasons why it's good and why the problems don't actually make anything bad here comes the next fucking wrench wars all the other main characters in star wars are really good at stuff oh how come obi one can defeat a sith lord all by himself he's been training for 20 fucking years yeah he also got the jump on more but i would like now that that was first time darth mall faced two jedi as well and so that was his first time he got lucky with the first one second one it gets worse because he's going to say this again when he gets the prequel video so you can just sort of we can we can ignore that one just listen to what he says next even do that how come luke is really good using the force and we accept it as totally plausible and reasonable that children can do it how do you like that kid in tlj used it and he was a kid who was never trained and we i don't have a problem with that i don't think anyone has a problem with that yeah this is this is not going to work because again this was three years later and it was really hard for him it's just really really save it out of the snow compare this to what ray does yeah yeah ray did it in kylo he stops a blaster in midair luke yeah yeah he can't pick up a lightsaber yeah me oh right now she didn't even yeah training star wars characters are really lucky and they're really good at shit because they're the main characters of a stupid action so i want to highlight the example he's using is hard running after a group of storm troopers shooting one and running away as an example of they're really good at shit what are you talking about he failed yeah this is hard running away because he can't take on four storm troopers as opposed to what obviously depending on what version you watch there's more storm troopers but uh adventure series okay it's more people only care that ray is really good at shit and it drives me fucking crazy man no she's insane yeah we know everything isn't that yeah it's not some of the disingenuous argumentation i was like oh yeah people have a problem with ray while han can shoot a storm trooper and luke can grab something a meter away from him with a force lightsaber and it with much difficulty with great effort extremely dishonest reasoning here insane um very uh very scummy and so yeah just just keep in mind how to use visuals to like expand upon what you're saying but he's using the worst visuals to make his points is at this point and so the highlight there obviously is that everyone's a mary sue so you know get over it it's just like wow okay and then we got this bit storytelling she couldn't be more mary sue unless she was also force sensitive which at this point wouldn't even really surprise me i feel like she's doing differently let's see you really go this is what about us and so this is obviously the highlight he has an issue with a character called sabine in uh both side of it and and he's saying the problem is she's a mary sue it's like wait a minute no she went on mandalore there's been wars going on and mandalore since she was a child she has a family that have trained her to be a warrior since she was a fucking child and could hold a blaster yeah but but but but that's not even that's not it doesn't even matter because he said it doesn't matter if they're very soon because everyone is yeah that's right everybody's oh my god so films are only bad when you feel nothing you should focus on what you enjoy and ignore the dumb stuff and it's too stupid to have lightsabers that allow you to fly but also don't complain about nonsensical things because nobody should care about that in a space wizards movie also all star wars movies are bad and people make excuses to explain why they like stuff don't use third party cannon but also use it if it helps you make more sense of things valid and invalid is the way that he does this by the way on top of all of that also being a mary sue is bad but also it's fine because everyone is like and we haven't even started his prequel video like knowing all of this does it not just make everything insane like how could you possibly conclude anything oh my god it will another thing it's like he's completely throwing away the fact that one of the things about her character that the main character kind of he doesn't know a lot about her but he's he's like interested in her and she won't tell him about her past and then you find out one of the big things was that she was one of the recruits for the empire and so that's why she has all this inside knowledge on empire tactics and then she left the empire because she didn't you know she wasn't fucking insane and then you find out that she actually when she was working for the empire she's very smart and innovative that she created a weapon that allows the empire to shoot through Mandalorian armor which before that was almost impossible and so it's a really big thing in the last season and it's one of those character pivotal moments and he just glazes over that and calls her mary sue it's like no she's a very flawed person she makes mistakes it'd be like her creating the atom bomb and giving it to the nazis you know that's what she did and she's ashamed of it because a lot of people died and it was her own people how the fuck is that a mary sue i don't think he watched the show all the way through but but i don't even if it is okay because everyone wants to show or not like if he watched the show or if he didn't watch the show his argument wouldn't be affected by that at all his his brain is not affected by information like the rest of us why i think it's his like his like position on i don't know film analysis reflects his channel basically like enjoy it have fun try not to think about how none of it makes any none of it makes any sense like like like his channel doesn't make any sense but it's like yeah but have fun with it just have fun be like oh okay this is the thing if he's not having fun with one of the star wars movies then it's probably a bad one if he is having fun with it it's probably a good one i think yeah and you might be like well we're so absurd about that muller and i'd be like no i just wish he was honest about it that's all he's got that's his only metric because the rest of this is nonsense my head hurts which brings us to his prequel videos everyone excited no that's what we were that's what we're here for how long did it take us let's have a look literally three hours and one of our guests died so we make a good progress clones are based on hello let's go back to zero all right here we go star wars the phantom menace was the most disappointing thing since my night can i go pee first before we start this go for it okay i'll be right back we can talk about how uh i think people don't like to make like big prequel analysis sort of stuff without mentioning plinkett he's like the almost the elephant in the room in a way to be like i'm not the first person to do it i guess um people still want us to cover his videos i think um who knows yeah who knows maybe down the line who knows i would chat how you feeling how's everything you guys it's been a weirdy five three hours of uh lots of different things happen obligatory our adventure yeah uh oh so yeah this is a really shitty youtuber well so this is the thing i think he's probably a nice guy and everything which is worthless as a statement right because if you weren't a nice guy you're you're in trouble like you should probably just try to reach that standard uh friendly cordial civil probably has some decent comedic timing on a lot of the stuff i've seen from him i guess but um i just don't think he's very good at his job and if you were like well what do you mean i'd be like i guess film critic trying to be like you you watch the film and you manage to condense it down into component parts that can help explain to people what like what the art form is doing achieving translating sending messages about and what parts of the craft is either being improved or or failed i just don't think i just don't think he does a very good job at any of that um i think he's he's he's just like really really just having fun watching the movies and then just sort of points out things that come to his mind i don't think there's really any system there which again it's fine i do that it just staggers me that he's like incredibly popular and it's like oh okay must be doing something right and you look at it and you're like um he usually covers topical stuff whether or not like like he he's on top of the the topical stuff like he did um he's done game of thrones obviously stars um i would have more references mcu it doesn't make sense if you don't know any about star wars he also titles things in incendiary ways like he's the the ramy spider-man films he has like a video which we covered called uh why it sucks like which is very controversial to say that the way which one does ramy spider-man films as a whole they all suck no one's good too incredible threes shit yeah that's that's what we could we did those ifa like i want to say ifa 15 or something we was with cj i really loved watching the first two again yes very good films um so yeah he has that he has um like i think he did it for the amazing spider-man films as well like he's his video on like the ot star wars films is called the ultimate review if i remember correctly or a sequel ones and so he he like labels his videos as sort of definitive takes but i'm sure you wouldn't ever say that that's what they are anyway we all ready uh can you be ready just before i start this breakdown i have to address the big red letter in the room the mr plinkett reviews by red letter media are probably the best analysis of the star wars prequels on the internet and unfortunately for me they are incredibly in-depth never these movies have been around for a while and there's almost nothing i can say that hasn't already been said by that kind of if you really feel that way but all right you know like you do imagine this is like i've said before but like part of why i don't want to do a bio shark infinite video is because mathematosis destroyed it already i like i feel like the job has been done it's very yeah i did a very very good job with that um and so i'd be like so why did you feel the need to make this but maybe he's gonna explain that to someone but you guys have been demanding that i review these movies for years now and i do have a lot to say so i'm just gonna go in with a clear mind and put the good old cosmonaut spin on thing i was about to say we've addressed this before it's the vocal fry vocal fry is actually very damaging miserable like he's like all right i'll tell you what he has to put effort into this surely vocal yeah we can all know why he talks like this really everyone could do it you just have to crank that part of the boys yeah but like it's bad for your throat so you shouldn't i don't know why you're doing it on purpose doctors do not recommend some people actually talk i mean yeah that yeah they do but like it feels like he's putting it on yeah i'm personally i'm not a fan but you know do whatever you want i guess things because i do not like these movies i barely even like them ironically these movies are not a guilty pleasure for me because when i watch them i feel no pleasure only guilt like i said in the last video you have to be brainwashed also he just said you have to be brainwashed into liking these movies oh okay like i disagree so fucking heavily liking them really you have to be brainwashed damn yeah i know this because i was brainwashed they came out with these boring ass movies with a racist jamaican caricature alien and they sold us toys and how i hate my argument i'm like how the fuck is it racist so then that being said is is ray racist because she's got a british accent well yeah all british characters are bad in fiction if they have british acts yeah this is it racist that uh fuck what's his name uh was speaking um what samali or uh what is the the language some some african language is that racist is that racist even though like people in africa lost their shit because like holy shit somebody in a movie speaking our language and he was like some of their favorite character is that racist what's the thing is that this ruling gets really awkward because it'll we don't it just never gets applied equally it's just seemingly random it's when it's like i don't like this thing now it's racist like oh well is is it racist that they gave the black storm trooper an american accent like as reminiscent of american slavery this is the thing i think people i remember people's racist but then i saw the clip where fin or john boega he he's like oh yeah i did it in my normal voice and he's like no that didn't feel right so yeah that's the thing right that was his choice to do that they never told them you have to do it really okay because i imagined that they were in a boardroom they're like now we got one british person all right that's too many all right he's gonna be american now you know um also yeah just to mention again that those those timestamps and the sort of linear nature of exploring the mind of cosmodel uh selfish to autistic actor uh quite a bit with that so thanks again um but yes it's it seemed very casual i guess he's not going to focus on that or maybe he will but um maybe we'll return to that and video this is just something that i hate that people say because people will say that oh jar jar was racist because of that and like if anything he's being inclusive of you know using that i i never got that it was a jamaican but i was a kid and i watched it uh if anything if you watch something like cool running that's a little bit more on the nose that's comedy um apu right is apu racist and i'm sure cosmodel would have to conclude yes he would have to conclude yes um and i don't know if he wants to go down that path because you'll start to have to call loads of things racist that are just clearly not i feel like i feel like you lose a lot if you start taking the perspective of apu man like because i remember there was a whole thing of is apu racist like man like i really like apu i would be sadder if apu didn't exist as a character in the simpsons so well that's one of the big counters is that apu is one of the best people in springfield he's like one of the best characters he is honestly one of the best characters in that show like i don't mean like you know in terms of some great arc i just mean like almost in altruism like he's he's a very good person well yeah exactly except for um except for thank you i'll see you in hell i mean the special circus test is pretty good god um uh but yeah you know a lot of stereotypes get lost and uh it's just if you want to make that you're ruling prepare to lose a lot of stuff you find funny or even just fair like just things are valuable yeah halloween costumes and this was my whole childhood new movie new video games new toys star wars potato chips star wars candy star wars was everywhere yeah i really expanded that you know awesome even a kid when the prequels were coming out and getting all of the new freaking toys that was awesome i loved it everything was cool i think uh for me it was the video games was the the thing that was really cool in like oh yeah battlefront two man like i know it has an age super well but that was that was the gem oh yeah like everyone played that and we just don't get that anymore that's that's the thing that's like they killed it what do we get they killed it three games in five years two of them are pretty bad honestly um we've had movies that nobody's really enjoyed we've just it's it's it's really diminished what i don't like the framing here like you enjoyed this as a kid you like this why are you making it seem like this sucks and that this is bad and they got you well he's those he's explaining how you were brainwashed why because there was a supply and demand and Lucas supplied the toys you know how a lot of people always say all the content surrounding the prequels was great and also the prequels were great nobody ever says all the content surrounding the prequels were great but the prequels weren't so good nobody ever says that it's all just so cut and dry it's all great or whatever it is and yeah i was watching star wars ad for 1994 buddy so this was before the prequels came out in 1999 is phantom medicine yes this is five years ahead of time you're talking about i think he's clipping different commercials i suppose you could argue he's just he's just throwing in commercials when he's talking about it is fine right since before the prequels even came out i've been in this fight since i was six years old it truly fucking blows my mind that people are only just now mad at star wars for being a cash grab franchise that only cares about we ain't just now no no we've all i think we all agree it is cash grabs since the since empire since the literal sequel like okay so now there's going to be a huge element of gunning for money as opposed to strictly a creative vision and that's it even the first one this is not a necessary problem but the longer it goes on the more commercialization there is on the the more dubious things like a fucking fortnight tie in we're going to be more frustrated i think that's only natural don't want to hear palpatine's message then i hope you buy fortnight also uh i need to go and check on something real quick you guys have to entertain chat how are you all right we can entertain chat uh gosh no i don't think i can do this i don't think i know all this pressure i just rags do you feel like they were racist against dogs since there's no dogs since there are no dogs that they lack of inclusion of dogs is racist yeah do you feel that i don't know i feel like i'm kind of grateful that there are no dogs in the in the in the sequels because they ruin them how do you feel about the dogs in avatar though an avatar the last stair bender or the blue people up your blue people one which one the blue people one the like the ones they would ride on and they fuck their tails together or whatever they do the dogs remember when he's alone in the forest for first bit and at night and he gets attacked by the wild dogs no i don't and then he sees them later with like puppies they're all black and limey looking don't remember that you know that's when that's when he first meets her and then that she takes him to the tree house because he's getting attacked by the dogs and she saves them i i i i just don't quite remember that movie i saw it so long ago there's been so much time between here and then i will show you oh my goodness i feel like that's the thing you would point out that there's a dog in them that's the thing that movie was so unmemorable and mediocre that i just don't remember it it made me feel empty which means it's bad oh i love that move what do you love about it i like uh the creature design i like the entire look of the planet i like that he was a paraplegic and then he gets legs and he you know finds a new people and i like that it is basically pocahontas in outer space because i love pocahontas uh i like the whole thing i like it i like it but that's just me i know there's problems with it but i like it uh there's the dog you just shared the picture that's an that's an odd dog yeah you like it i think it's puppy unusual it's certainly a spacey doggo i don't know i mean i i feel like if they just like attack people i mean he must have done something there must have been a reason you know they wanted to eat him yeah but why food they hungry oh uh they're predators they seem a little callous doesn't it i don't know it's what predators usually do right they hunt food seems all right i mean i i mean i listen i don't be it far from me to condemn the dogs and avatar but uh uh left for dead dead air that was a campaign of left for dead pick something to talk yeah let's talk about the left for dead campaign dead air how do you feel about it very what are your what are your thoughts did it make you feel empty which is far as i'm concerned and what i've been taught is that if it makes you feel empty that's that's whether it's good or not that's how you determine whether it's good or not as if it makes you feel empty i think but i can't be sure so who knows please answer the question all right well i liked it so there good talk i enjoy our discussions yep yeah what yep left for dead dead air the campaign what what about it like what how do you feel about it i didn't play left for dead one really no i uh i only played a little bit of left to not a lot yeah how'd you feel about it in left for dead two the campaign but yeah the campaign dead air oh i don't know dude i don't remember that one i don't remember that like i said i didn't play that much i see i thought i was all right i still think no mercy is probably the best um i like no mercy i like i really dig the i might be a little short on some of the names um right i guess none of them really stand out as bad i don't really care for the swamp one swamp fever i think it was called wasn't really a fan of swamp fever i generally don't like swamp levels mauler what's your least favorite left for dead two campaign as a like of all of them all i remember but what's the one yeah what you just said the watery one whenever you're in water i fucking hate it so i don't like swamp fever swamp the one is it i can't remember where it's called the one where like the whole town is uh flooded i think there's like a whole flooded level and i remember being like great i have to walk through water for the whole thing that's great oh the one where you have to go past the the sugar cane field and like possibly the field i don't remember them the problem is go back yeah you have to go back and it's raining i'm og okay when the demo for left dead came out i played no mercy like a thousand times with my friends we couldn't stop playing there's so much fun so it's a campaign i remember yeah i i'm firmly there but this is this is the one and i do agree that i do not particularly enjoy this one where you go to the gas station to get gas to bring back and on the way back you because it's the one where you have to go there and then you have to go back and when you go back it's like rainy and stormy and stuff i don't really care for it yeah can't say it's my favorite and and there is a swamp one right with the the mud people or whatever hard rain mud men yeah swamp fever i think is that one no yeah no no mercy hard rain no mercy just felt crafted like the whole thing was very deliberate while the other ones are like feel a bit more gimmicky to me yeah because there is no gimmick in no mercy it's just go survive get to the end good this is good it's good simple level design you know what you want a spicy take on level design i'm about to drop a fucking spicy ass take on you the library is better than assault on the control room fucking no i'm sure yep mm-hmm what is it okay i need reasons i need any right now this is really subjective this is purely subjective um i do think that yeah i do think that uh i understand why people don't like the library however the reason why i really hated assault on the control room is i really hated the level designs of a lot of the rooms um whereas both levels are repetitious i feel like the library's repetition is a lot more simple and it's a lot more conducive to fighting the enemies that you're in and i generally i enjoy fighting the flood a whole lot more than i enjoy fighting the covenant okay that is a very controversial stack right there if you enjoy them that's why i oh no i don't think it's no i don't think that part's controversial i don't think it's controversial to say i enjoy fighting the flood more i think the controversial part is that i think that the library is a better mission um i think that i think that i think that it is all right we're talking about halo one um don't worry i was lost to you and the first halo through um when it came out on the master chief collection and i just i thought that i thought that assault on the control room was just a long boring slog but i was having fun with the library because it's just yeah just go through this level and shoot all the enemies and you always know where to go and what to do it's very straightforward stuff on you like the flood more than the covenant and the covenants is appreciably stronger factions of fight against in the flood um maybe i think the easiest way to break it down is when it comes to the covenant it's a lot easier to break down all of the classes and the distinct role that they play in the battlefield and the different ways that you can go about taking them on whereas when you got like the flood carrier form it's just like yeah shoot it when it's far away and then we'll blow up a bunch of other things as opposed to like okay so i've got like a gold covenant a gold elite and like a red elite and i've got a bunch of jackals who are sniping you know shooting at me from afar over there as well as some grunts i need to deal with and now i need to figure out which order i want to go through whereas with the blood because i like fighting more enemies that are weaker instead of fewer enemies that are stronger i don't i think that one of halo's strengths is that you're fighting enemies who are actually kind of strong like uh like like the covenant i've never heard anybody say that i like the flood more than the covenant that that is a first for me really it's the first time i've ever said that really yeah pretty much everybody agrees that the covenant is a better faction than i think the flood are good i'm not saying that i think they're better like better fleshed out and explained and aesthetically sure but i think i'm actually fighting them i have more fun fighting the flood i like the fact that they're all swarmy and they rush you and they can have such a wide variety of different weapons that they use the reason why the covenant is stronger is because there's a much clearer breakdown of the design at play in terms of here's your big space here are six or seven unique distinct alien types that are immediately identifiable from a far figure out how you want to take them down i think that's the purest distillation of what makes a halo game particularly enjoyable compared to a lot of other shooters is here's your sandbox here's your six or seven distinct enemy types here's a bunch of weapons that you can use figure it out and that is much stronger for the covenant than it is for the flood in terms of the amount i still think that a bunch of infection forms and the carriers and then the combat whatever they're called the normal units i just think that's i think it's more fun to fight more of them when they're rushing you and to fight more tactically against the covenant i think that you lose a lot with the fact that it's because they're rushing you it's just frantically whoever's closest i like the thing uh not necessarily depends on what weapons they have like sure i guess it's um because the idea is you want to take down the carrier forms when they're in like a crowd or something but well i mean you know that if one has a shotgun you have to kill it before it gets close to you oh yeah sure you have to prioritize it over everyone else you see what i mean when it comes to like if you're fighting the covenant you've got some options here you know like if you've got if you've got the only time you don't have an option is the very few instances where they just throw elites at you with a sword it's like oh well i got to get him before he gets to me but otherwise um there's much more choice in terms of how you want to approach it whereas like you said sure there's a flood carrier form you want to get it first before it gets close to you that's the only choice kill it before it gets close to you if there's a combat form with a shotgun kill it before it gets close to you whereas if you're fighting the covenant and you've got you know you've you've got an instance where you've got maybe like two or three elites you've got a bunch of grunts and are some jackals you have some choices there you might want to get rid of the jackals first if they're shooting at you from afar or you might want to take down the elites before they get too close or you want to whittle down their shields or something like that there's just way more options um but admittedly it's um it's probably halo two comes out in like two days so that'll be a good um that'll be a good test of it i'm pretty sure that the flood got better as time went on when they added more stuff for them when i went on yes yeah um but i've always i've just i've always enjoyed uh fighting the flood more than the covenant i that's fair enough that you enjoy it more um yeah because i like uh i was i mean i was talking to some other people who said the same thing to me but uh when i like i really like vermin tide and i really like killing floor and games like that where there's a lot of enemies uh and you're trying to do crowd control stuff and it's a you know your movement's important and where you go and not getting yourself cornered and stuff like that i enjoy that sort of thing i think i it's worthwhile to note by the way i do like the flood um and i i do think that they get better by the time you start an approach like halo three is when well i mean that's the last time they were in it but yeah i think the flood is halo wars i will have you know oh yeah well i i guess it's i guess the reason why it's interesting rags is because the two generally considered worse levels in halo which would be um the library and um cortana they're all flood centric and they're both considered the worst levels in this entire series pretty much is it because of the flood or because the levels themselves um it's it's usually more the levels than the flood which might be the reason why some people think the flood are actually bad which i don't agree with i think they're good but but yeah it's more the levels than anything um i guess that's the end of that tangent though molla please moderate this to me i think it's all it's all this is really like i i don't think the covenant are bad at all i just enjoy fighting the flood more yeah fair enough it's more rewarding to me to fight the flood than the covenant i don't i think one of the reasons is the covenant don't they're not as they they seem really dumb in the way that they do stuff like move around and attack and shoot and stuff but i know they're supposed to be intelligent so maybe a part of that for me is like it's worthwhile to note that in lore terms the the elites are the ones who are meant to be the intelligent ones yeah they don't behave that way um in which especially in the first game they're really dumb i mean kind of but you can almost chalk that up to just the fact that it's a game from 2001 yeah partially i think they get smarter as time goes on i think almost certainly so we're talking about people in general sure how they apply it youtube film essayists are we talking about that they get smarter as they go along because i don't know i don't know yeah and if we're we're gonna start comparing who's this goofball's name cosmonaut variety hour to cannerberry tails then i think we there's a bit of a decline in quality um so yeah kicking on prequel video you're brainwashed that was the opening point nice they seriously act like disney's the only reason star wars is trying to make money what no it's not that's not the argument no it's the thing that they're trying to manipulate something to make money and they're epically failing at it i believe joff Lucas had a story to tell also he was happy to make money it's like yeah disney disney doesn't have a story to tell they literally do not have a story to tell you know they were making it up as they went they did not have anything to the they wanted to do they were just like i don't know buddy that's cool as he's literally showing the action figures from the first uh movie when those action figures you had to preorder it you got this box and then you didn't get those toys until may so this kid probably just finally got all of his toys in this picture so there was a huge demand for him they had none and so they had to mass produce it but it was still late for chris it's like george Lucas saw the market and he provided for the market i guess uh the thing that i would look you tear it like what is the primary content and the secondary content and the tertiary content so like the primary content is the films and in the films there is no denying that disney is trying to capitalize big time that's why they've made five movies in three years i actually think the writing's on the wall they don't they didn't have a plan for a story because they don't have a story to tell they're just looking to make money and you could argue you could argue they're looking to make people have happy feelings about star wars like oh that's cute oh it's it's star wars star wars fans will buy anything you know no matter what we make they're going to buy not the sequel to his yeah whatever however much soul star wars had disney definitely erased it they're like bye bye fucking planet have you been living on star wars has always been like this star wars micro machines can't that can't exist in a spectrum at all nope nope nope remember rags you're the guy who said that uh if any film sells mission dice it's objectively bad remember that oh yeah that's the thing i definitely said that quit and play it out that i definitely did see where we're that's a reference to efab but the fucking died we're going nostalgic at this point oh gee in fact new star wars micro machines machine so iconic they're legendary they sell toys what is your point yeah we're fine we're fine with them selling toys jesus plus there's a lot of other things that they're right now like i mean how does he reconcile lucas arts as a company that existed that made a bunch of innovative really cool games over the course of their like you know before they got shut down it's like oh they're only about making money that's why they grin lit risky projects like republic commando yeah this is all about money and when the i don't care if the products are good make all the money yeah exactly like i don't care how much money you make meanwhile by the way disney fired whatever you have to think about this toy this ship was cool yeah it is cool i had i didn't have it my best friend had it and it was awesome and i want to clarify as well uh the no way i've lost it fuck um damn you said you fired something already of toys back then like the people action figures are fucking awesome the ones that they come out now stop comparative to the compare to what fringis said about taking risks uh disney actively fired directors that they think aren't going a safe direction they're like no no no you're not no stop it you have to do this what happened with um wasn't it phil lord and chris uh it's loads of times um it even happened with rogue one like garth edwards didn't it's not really his film at the end of it at least i'm pretty sure he's pretty sure about the whole thing yeah um and and yeah the fact that ron howard had to come in for solo and like reshoot 70 of it because oh yeah colin trevoro or travaro uh he was supposed to be doing episode nine that didn't happen and then um whoever whoever they had in place i can't remember if they like got rid of two people and that jj came in at the end of it but uh yeah well i mean wasn't it chris terrio or something was the screenwriter oh no i know he was still involved it yeah it's uh it's a disaster because it's all very just they just want to make the money okay they just want to make the damn while george lucas was like i want to do this and i'm guessing he didn't care if it like was the smartest decision to make money with i think uh i think that it's pretty clear right that the steward of star wars initially was a film maker first and it produces second yeah and i think that that showed and now it's it's totally very clinical i think i'm gonna be honest if you listen if you listen to him talk about the force jedi syth and the story of anakin becoming vader and stuff you can tell he's very invested he's like yeah this is how it works this is a vision in his head he was trying to give to everybody else around him if you ask cathleen kennedy like what uh what what is the force she'd be like it's this wonderful it's this thing that it's it's such a it's so wonderful the force is female that's what the force is and how we're gonna protect george lucas's legacy and then do everything the opposite so yeah i what i'm trying to say is there is a line between disney star wars and lucas star wars and i think that you can talk a lot about the way that they use it to make money and the fact that both of them sold a toy does not then mean that the exact same thing when it comes to essentially putting the the stars out on the street pimping it out being like please buy it's like no there's a difference well the thing is all the things that he's showing for the prequels in the originals those were things that kids want that are still collectors items to this day i did a video on the action figures there is one that was an action figure for the eu that never appeared in a movie was only a minor character in a comic book that action figure the lowest you can find it on ebay was 183 dollars rose tico is on sale for five cents nobody yeah i was i was about to say that right i uh i thought that would be like a logical like on that on that point the fact that in in 10 years from now there's no way that any of these like sequel the impact and i think the prequel was a very good but the impact of the prequel absolutely stronger than the very positive culture people like the prequels even if they acknowledge that they're not good or that they have problems i don't enjoy that people don't derive much joy from the sequels i got a killer argument you know it is two words baby yoda now you might be like what you might be like how does that work be like well yeah disney yellow baby yoda was disney mirchified laboratory in the depths of disney's hedgehog so where i'm going with this disney mirchified everything to do with the sequels right they were just like roll out toys hold out toys rose tico toys phasma phasma was like the best-selling toy i believe first with tfa and stuff which is fascinating because yeah looks cool but they uh they were they they were slow on the draw with baby yoda they didn't realize that people would actually want the baby yoda as a toy so yeah what i'm highlighting there is that they were like artificially inventing demand that wasn't actually there they were like you guys want the toys phasma was right that's how it always works hold on rose two you're like no no no no one was there and they're like oh you you want baby yoda oh shit and so they did it like backwards compared to lucas who would have just been like oh shit this didn't he like he secured the merchandise rights early and they would have found out what exactly everybody really wants and then it would just been created and that's why everyone got them late as well or they paid for it and they got it way later because it's like they're creating these things as they were demanded yeah exactly while star was sequel trilogy it was like ah i don't know just throw them all out and then it's like five sets rose tico you're like oh well and baby yoda is possible to find i am still waiting i will get mine eventually i don't doubt that people want i mean honestly as much as i don't like mando like mandalorian i could certainly get a baby yoda oh i cannot stand the show but you know sure as hell i pre-ordered that 300 dollar baby yoda from sideshow oh boy i'm gonna give it to yoda baby yoda he's cute oh i'm so excited i give it to yoda how do they not know what his species is he's like i like the fact that i really like that there is no it's a mystery it's just yoda yoda says unknown there are two of them on the jeta council you think they give them the name they don't want to know it's a secret it's like you don't talk about fight club you just know of his that's right don't say the species you just know that it's there and ever you asked about it yoda's like my people what do you mean i like the idea of yoda fight club where you know he's like beating up of a version of himself in his head you know making a fight club for all these yoda species beating each other up moving up it was just time for more merchandise he was a good time to be an impressionable little kid who loves star wars and do you love this he's saying the merchandise convinced you prequels are good that's the merch for the prequels were good well but it's backwards anyway people wanted the merch because they like the fucking films you've got it backwards yeah people wanted to obi one kenobi and anakin and all the different droids and the ships and the how many people wanted to get a darth vader lightsay a darth small lightsaber like just a plastic one that came up with ends like how loads people fucking wanted that shit well also too i had a lot of friends that had never seen star wars but they loved coming over and playing with all of my action figures because they were fucking cool yeah you know that the ship that's holding right now the naboo one that ship was awesome and there was a little button on it behind r2 that when you shoot it because it has two different settings on if you could just do the the short little like and then there's one that lights up blue and it's like bam and it's just one but it's cool also it's a cool uh couldn't you just make this argument for all star wars movies then no none of you like any of them you are all brainwashed by the mitch lull oh yeah that's right no only i would recognize that sooner all of my friends that would come over to play with my action figures none of them will watch star wars with me they just like to play with him so that doesn't work that argument oh not valid and back then i didn't have the mental capacity to judge these movies nobody in my age group didn't i don't even agree that that's true when i was a kid i feel like i was i certainly liked more bad things straight up tell you this is terrible like not caring about your feelings they will just tell you this just makes me feel like it's ever been around children i think it's just like when i remember i was a kid i certainly liked more things that were bad but when things were bad i still kind of had like a little clock in my head you know that kind of that was yoda back in the 70s back in his college years yoda was real going to the yeah going to the disco getting on that uh that uh wacky yoda was wild and free and he was living it up having a great time that grief and madness got it all out of his system before he mellowed out and became part of the jedi council pushing it with that hairline but i mean you know it's his style he's going for it man keep it just let it do what it let it be this action figure does exist like even with the new ones you don't get an action figure for every single character you saw on screen with the prequels you got a character and on the back of each box they're like here are all the other 12 action figures from this line doesn't matter if the character doesn't have a speaking spot like on star wars there's still an action figure for and so that was exciting as a kid because you get to learn the character's name there's a little fact on it and it made you want to collect more now they're like you get ray or kylo rent or pissy yeah these these throw out characters who were really interesting you know yeah you want to collect all the members of the jedi council because if you didn't you're gonna die alone as a virgin what a reference you want to reference the ot one as well as it's like i gata people are just like oh my god a fucking robot bounty hunter this is so fucking cool so fucking cool who's this fucking dinosaur man's while with the sequels it's like even the main characters aren't cool so nobody's cool yeah fuck these people did we saw the lightsabers and we were on board we didn't give a shit i think everybody has that moment where they're watching the prequels after having grown up a bit and they realized how could you i would make that argument for tfa well for all the sequels i'd be like you saw the lightsabers and you were on board that's tf yeah that's tfa more than anything that's tfa you saw the things that you saw when you were a kid all that happened is you were an adult and you have less of an excuse that's all that happened by his own logic he's like yeah i i fucked up i didn't see it for whatever don't worry cause you know can i just highlight how fucking condescending this whole thing is it would be like if i was just like cosmonaut once you once you're in your 30s 40s whatever 10 years plus you'll realize the sequels are not good you'll get there buddy he's too pure realize jesus christ what did i like about these movies how could you show christopher lee and then say what could i like about this movie the person in your visuals is an actor perhaps you've heard of him he's fucking awesome he's not he's not an f he's not a c he's an a it's like a s-regg dude with pteramond and he's there like oh you know i wonder what i like about this and don't even if you want to be like uh he's flying a floaty bike thing i'd be like oh you're hovercrafts that's yeah that's lame like imagine flying base motorcycle oh my god how terrible i know and also shortly before this we got to see him fight yoda i'm just saying after this but yes yeah is that moment where you realize that you don't actually understand the plot of any of these movies that they're bored yeah so there's insane issues with the execution but the plot itself was like yeah i know what they're doing here right i just it's really awkward because it's like you realized you didn't understand i'm sitting there like wait what but i i did understand why you're addressing me like you know me so well this is weird don't tell me what i think and there's just no good aspect to enjoy oh once my generation there's no good aspects and we really don't no good aspect to enjoy be come on man like i i like that that's there's nothing we've said on e5 is more absurd that there is nothing good to enjoy in the prequel it's like wow but yet we get all the flak we'll be the evil demons he'll get away with it because he's a subjective person who's like no that's all you put in is fine yeah just to be clear episode one and two really dog shit movies but i still enjoy watching them and i absolutely can see how they opened up the world and how they were and there's plenty of things i like in them there's lots of things i like this this scenes in them that i would be like oh this could be in a film i would consider great yeah i legitimately like the pod race yeah so i like um yeah i that's what i mean is like for all of the bad things with the prequels i do like the films i like them even if they're dumb like i like them and i can't get that from the sequels because they're both bad and unenjoyable for me i feel like this world was alive and you could like if you were playing the action figures like why do you think you cared about the action figures backstories because you felt like the world was alive and these were characters in a real place and you wanted to learn about what they did all the cool shit they might have been up to behind the scenes collect action figures did you play with any of the toys when you played with dolls they were action figures common misconception well they had dolls i have a Barbie of Qui-Gon he's yoked as hell but um i'm not kidding i'm serious i have a Barbie of Qui-Gon and Pat they made dolls of them but action figures are different but did you guys ever collect them or play with any of them when you were little no i didn't uh i was into Legos and ships like if it was a tank or a starship man i was there i was never really into the action figures themselves okay well but did you play with any like the star warships yeah yeah yeah so i'm like a part of our childhood i don't see how that's him giving ship for that and if anything yeah that makes you think because when you're playing with the ship i'm sure yeah you're re-enacting scenes from the movie but then you're also expanding upon it and going yeah and then this ship does this and then this does this and that's exactly what i do is i take the ship and i'd hot and i'd hold it in front of like my eyes so i was barely sort of looking past the ship as i was walking around the the house and stuff and it if you if you put your eyes kind of close it almost like a third person video game where you're flying your ship yeah and you sort of get you get your hand and your arm out of the way and you just yeah oh my god that was short i like i think that's the i like the freeing and i have big chairs because we're tall men's oh that is a nice touch actually i know i'm the same height as rags in all reality rags is a doggo and you're about as tall as i know um no we were talking the other night uh i really i don't know if you guys saw tiger king but i was saying that i want to go to one of the places because i want to ride a liger and they were telling me i'm crazy i'm like no and pulling it up and the people that are next to the liger are like five six and i'm like i am like um like hobbit size i'm like i could totally ride a liger and then i we figured out how tall the liger was and i'm like this liger is taller than i i could turn the right that ligers are ridable they are there's some rags i'm telling you they have videos and of them right they're big yeah i don't think i've only ridden on horses and mules i think fios said fuck you i hate the pod race all right i mean if you hate it you hate it i liked it i mean i'm not gonna say there's no problems that you can fight with it i just enjoyed it i was just like yay yeah i definitely enjoyed it i think there's some now this is pod racing fuck that that was really bad when he accidentally how dare you besmirch the good name of pod racing with your insane spinning how dare you little shit that's the thing though right is we you know the the fact that there's like pod racing is there anything in the sequels it's like oh this is a thing a recreational activity run well what we found out about the kessel run is that hans the cthulhu month bet you didn't see that coming i i just love the idea that i meant to watch it you hope and think that this guy dropped freaking like shoved nigger off until like guys remember he doesn't just drop it it gets all of its skin torn off and it crumbles apart before it's like what the fuck this is fucking metal yeah it's just ah but that's that's exactly it right the whole thing of like this universe feels like a place that actually exists when you have stuff like hey what do you do for fun on tadaway and oh you know we go pod racing it's like what do you do for fun in in like cat a bite planets that you visit gamble you gamble wow that's interesting all the time you gamble on the horse race the far the race as they called is that what they're called the far the air far the is yes far the air which looked expensive as hell in the behind the scenes and it's also worth it to have the scene where we're like hey animal abuse not cool they're not closer they're far the air yes also why is friend got pickles yeah i don't like pickles maybe that's why they're the name of the character from that show you like right uh what show which one jack horseman isn't the dog um no his name is mr pin up butter i don't know why i thought it was pickle well there is a show called mr wait wait hold on what what's that show mr pickles is that like the one with the dog in it hold on i'm pretty sure there is a dog yeah hold on let me let me look up yeah mr pickles means a show with a dog in it yeah i was confusing yeah i don't like it but with mr pickles yeah and that's a bad confusion because mr peanut butter is a bad confusion well all right well okay mr peanut butter is like a wholesome dog and mr pickles is like a satanic cult worshiping like dog that does sound interesting it's a terrible show don't watch it uh bozak i haven't even seen mr pickles yeah don't watch mr pickles i should watch mr peanut butter uh wow you mr peanut butter's house that's the show in bozak i i'm making more the watch bozak don't you worry yeah yeah we're almost i'd be interested to watch it with you oh well then yes we also need to get you in on it too because i love that fucking help your heart it is to organize four people to watch tv show we do it regularly it's me yeah it is not easy it is not difficult to organize me for any group not you but you plus another person plus another person plus another person and we're dealing with many times but i'm basically always down for it i don't add anything i'm the easiest leg on this this creature running through the cinematic world okay so you're saying it's hard however hard it currently is it won't be that much harder to include you no i'll i'll be easy breezy lemon squeezy all right i'm on board yeah i'm pretty much i'll be i'll be like i won't be like a crunchy pickle i'll be like soggy cereal all right all right let's continue movies were bad there was peace on the internet for a brief time it was so he likes that once upon a time everyone said the prequels were bad this was good it's okay yeah is that what we're gonna use is the standard of time that i don't know what to say about that i'm just like i was never a time where everyone said the prequels were bad that was not a thing there's loads of people who've loved them for all time i don't know what you're talking about we have them today they exist you can talk to them and they're like alien adduction victims just like no everyone agreed at one point it's like nobody talking about this is the same shit we said about tfa everyone loved it at one point like no they didn't it's not how i like how i don't you love however though that when people started to hate the prequels it wasn't because they snapped and just decided that they were bad right when it was tfa they just snapped and decided oh everybody likes it it's bad but with the proof it was like oh no they're actually bad they're actually bad and they were convinced with reasons and arguments and examples and explanations this is the reason why you don't make arguments about the quality of products with all of this extra external bullshit that you're doing because you're gonna contradict yourself you have to talk about the movies talk about the scenes in the film please yep just focus on the film was widely accepted that but how often do we see this one he had videos all the time and oh there you go you said widely accepted oh okay bad or as good i'd like to see his polling data that's all that's all yeah it wasn't anybody a lot made that up because the problem is if you're on the internet it's really easy to think that everybody agrees with you but there are probably what we found never was there a split pretty 50 50 at least that's what the impression i've gotten from the efap community which you could argue the efap community is is consistent of disliking the sequels and so that doesn't really tell you anything about whether or not they like the prequels and then you find if they were gonna really be consistent then they wouldn't like them but well i was just gonna say that you find liking them right yeah yeah you know like i don't like them but yeah bad i'm sure we don't find who unironically liked them there was no more world hunger racism was over and we as a species had finally achieved racism as peace and then disney started making star wars movies oh they started making bad ones let's be clear and also you know it's worthwhile to remember that before tfa came out everybody was like well i say everybody but a lot of people like yeah prequels suck finally we're gonna get good star wars movies that was oh yeah and when tfa came out people did say that they were like it's finally that it's redeemed the prequels we've gotten over the prequels exactly yeah when tfa came out people loved it yeah exactly in fact he even said this in his last video and and that's what i mean it's like these movies were so bad that people like huh maybe the prequels weren't like the worst thing in the world you rewatch the prequels you're like this is not as bad as the sequels oh my god the sequels are just that bad yep they are yes they are worse i like to highlight it whenever we find them but queerty you opa said stop pausing every five seconds five seconds man we're screwing it up supposed to be every one second every frame we need every frame 24 times a second and now all of a sudden people are saying the prequels are good what the fuck happened i just love this i like how he's so upset yeah if anything this just illustrates not how good the prequels were but how bad the house made everyone reevaluate their whole life for quality in star wars yeah i think that's a fair thing to do you know by you're like oh this is like this is what it means to be a two out of ten sequels come out and all of a sudden everyone thinks these shitty movies are good if you remember um when tlj was getting praised by different youtubers people were like we hang on a minute they're praising this like what is their system how do they judge things and this hence the beginning of this stream which was trying to figure out how the hell he even judges good be bad but uh a lot of youtubers people are just like it's just you just you just enjoyed it you're not actually looking at any of the storytelling you're just like ah fuck it like john campia is that he's shit on the prequels constantly and then when the sequels come out he's like oh these are so good as you said right like you look at it you look at a youtuber and then they review it and and just this disconnect it's like wait you you're saying you like it but like i don't i don't understand it has the same problems as the thing you don't like so how do i even know you know if the point of watching a reviewer is oh well i'll be able to gauge whether or not i'll like it if people just like and dislike things for reasons that don't make sense and they don't offer much of a service to you anymore yeah i don't think so if if they're like oh tlj is great despite it having all these things that i said were bad in this other thing you're like oh so it's not based on anything anymore it's just random just whatever you feel like whatever you feel at that very moment whatever you feel yeah who knows if it will be good tomorrow will it be good later today will it be good at second breakfast i mean unironically it created a gap in the market that efab totally tried to fill they was like oh you want people to try and be consistent at least at the very fucking least try it's like yeah we'll give it a shot it's like these people just fucking care they're just like if it made me feel good to them so that it was good like okay i've seen so many people unironically defend these movies and then turn around and shit on other bad things to defend them i'm so okay i need to literally we did that last efab there are things to defend in these movies yes this is nuclear right so he just said that um people people criticize oh no people defend the prequels despite them having flaws in them that are present in things that are bad such as bbs and i'm just sitting there like you defended the sequel trilogy how can you say this yeah like if we're gonna go that broad your this doesn't work that's why we have asked we've said before is like if you've liked the last jedi if you've liked the sequels like how can i trust you on anything that you i have no idea what your standard for quality is if you like those things then i have no idea what you can't like well yeah be like if somebody said he gave the standard and then he was completely hypocritical of all of his standards yeah he gave the standard and flipped off that's right like 10 minutes later well different well yeah i was gonna say we highlighted like fucking 10 times and he's just like flippy floppy all over the place all right we'd have to go with the flow like if you were uh if you watch cosmonaut variety hour a lot of the time there's no way that you can possibly predict as to yeah like new phone comes out like a movie or not you're not gonna know what he's gonna say about it and uh you might be like well that's cool i could look at it's unpredictable their lens um and i want to clarify by the way what he just said is almost word for word what i said in my um tlj critique that if you're gonna say tlj is great good luck calling other things bad which is pretty much what he's just said people are defending the prequels despite them having the same flaws as like agreed upon bad movies so they're hypocrites the the the amusing thing to me is this like i'm working from it's something that we saw like throughout loads of critics one of the chief ones being probably just right like he was someone who everyone was like you're so great at pointing out like all of the flaws in the hobbit trilogy or um game of thrones all these different ones and it's like but tlj's a tlj is great to you what but but it breaks all these different things and then what is its response to that big address to directly that didn't bother me yeah which is like oh okay cool because that's not how it works generally like if somebody says oh my god it's a 9.8 earthquake oh yeah it didn't bother me so i think it's a 4.2 okay well oh cool all right no if only all those people closer to the epicenter fell different yeah side squad or batman v superman even though they all share the same exact issues overly expensive movies with bad effects and worse right oh at that no batman and superman have issues but they're also very different issues than the sewers guide yeah that's why it doesn't work sense to say stories with different characters do i well he's he's instantly jumped to the aesthetic aspects yeah which is well he followed up he mentioned bad writing straight away what he's trying to do is conflate them to be essentially the same thing what do people normally say about the prequels bad effects bad writing and he's like look they're the same suicide squad is bad effects of bad writing did suicide squad have bad effects the effects were kind of garish but they were probably like fine i don't remember them being considered bad honestly neither for batman vs superman i don't remember that being no batman v superman definitely people think that has good visual effects so i'm not even sure what to say about that i i'd have to rewatch it i don't remember no doom look like shit oh yeah it's not doomsday doom annihilation doomsday oh dooms no doomsday a lot of people said he looked like an orc if i remember well yeah he don't look like doomsday that's the problem he looks like yeah he looks like the orc eye on steroids yeah he looked i'm pulling up now it's like yeah he looked weird i guess they want to just go with he's the monster man like yeah there he is yeah he does kind of look like um a less pale version of the pale orc from the hobbit he looks like a horribly radiated teenage mutant ninja turtle i suppose all of the ninja turtles are already bonus radiation damn yeah this is bonus radiate this is yeah they clearly went too far um so yeah i don't know he's just trying to make it sound like they're the same thing so if you hate that you should hate the prequels which is bizarre to me because i thought his whole point was whether or not it makes you feel yeah exactly if it doesn't make you feel empty then they're good by definition according to how can you ever argue anything when you're dealing with an audience that can just pull that card on you whenever they want like but i felt stuff Marcus so well he'd probably be like nah come on to which i'd be like no really and if he said come on again i'd be like no really well this is the thing i don't even have to lie it's like yeah i did feel stuff watching the prequels yeah i did feel stuff when it was a prequel yeah a lot of people are saying that the prequels are redeemed because they're better than the new they are better than the new movies there is a sense of redemption there because a lot of them they were shouting forever and i kind of see where a lot of quote unquote prequel defenders are coming from with how you can deal with someone who's like they're bad for this reason you're like that's not accurate just so you know what you just said not accurate and then they're like but they're bad it's like i don't care if they're bad or not what you just said is not accurate now first of all the new movies aren't even that bad i don't love every aspect of them but i cannot call i mean you're showing word one which is probably the best of the bunch right yeah they're showing you're they're showing the best part of the of the passive it's like it's like a dude who's fully irradiated and chanoval view show is toenail like it's okay like it's you know bad movies i honestly have full respect for people who hate the prequels and the sequels equally i think that's what equally equally but they're not the same he has more respect for people who hate them equally okay what totally fair what kills me is when people say no it's not actually good and these aren't but i mean i think it's more reasonable than saying they're both good wow i could certainly sympathize with someone who thinks that the prequels are good more yeah because i think uh i think when you say the prequels are good you can think about a lot of like well the ideas were really good and if it had been executed better then it probably could have been good whereas with like the sequels i think the ideas were just not good ideas to start with yeah it's one of the rare instances where we're like the idea is from the get go you guys are struggling to say loose girl girls are bad and everyone he loves but like maybe no maybe that's not you can't like what is his name um i can't remember the guy's name but the one who suggested to jj and he like went with it which is like keep luke out of the film until the last like second because otherwise people would be distracted by him it's like oh my god and so i would have loved to have been distracted from the rest of this movie by mark hamill but that gives you everything right you're like oh so they decided then we need to have a narrative where he just doesn't show up oh let's put him on an island i guess but why you can't michael odd yeah that's the name of the guy oh and it makes you think then that that's why j ryan did what he did like ryan took the hot potato that was a mangled disgusting thing and then he just stepped on it instead of passing it along we're just like uh well oh at least the prequels had some original ideas who the fuck says shit like this a lot of people say that a lot of people a lot of people a lot of people can appreciate an attempt at originality instead of making shitty copies of other things and then it's weird that you and the job that you do are apparently this is a foreign concept to you that seems strange to me original ideas aren't enough to make a movie good and something can still be yeah that's not like you say this is if that's what they're saying the fact that it's original makes it good yeah when they you said that they say at least it's original at least it's original doesn't mean that it's yeah that's more argument it also means that if you said i don't think that phantom menace and attack the clones are especially these two are bad or sorry that they're good i think they're shit however i would say at least they're trying these original ideas i would say that but i still think the movie's bad so you can say this thinking both the movie's good or the movie's bad that's kind of like the meta context of you tried something new and it didn't work versus you tried to do something that was already done for you and you screwed it up it's like specifically went out and copied something else in a really shitty way you copied some of to work and you got it all wrong yeah you read lez upside out and shit it's like yeah good without having original ideas stranger things doesn't have a single original idea no one disagrees with that the sequels were not that thing i don't even he just said stranger things doesn't have a single original idea i don't know that i agree with that no i think upside down the the little girl that has weird powers if he's going what he might do is be like yeah but that's just a different version of this thing that already exists and then it should be like so how many things yeah i was gonna say everything is an original man we can always draw something to something else that's similar just like i'm assuming that's where he's going i don't know yeah and it's generally seem to be pretty good everybody likes it the prequels have a lot of unique ideas yeah and they're not presented in a good way at all in these movies at all yeah not at all like he's showing the pod race but how i agree it could have been done better but it wasn't bad like i think i did a decent enough job at showing a pod race i mean apparently this is the most this is the noteworthy example because it's the one he's showing but i think it's one of the worst examples well i mean i'm guessing that's the intro so you guys ready for some arguments i am totally ready oh i'm so ready for arguments if you thought this was going to be a video about me praising the prequels then i'm sorry why would we think that when the thumbnail says why they suck did he just assume that everyone is stupid and he has like yes i mean he said as much as any of the world brainwashed well thank fucking jesus that he's here to educate all of us incompetent thinking humans i honestly think that a lot of people don't understand how the english language works but say things that are way harsher than they realize and they don't even recognize it if you go well i could just say it's a joke right you're all brainwashed as kids you just haven't seen through the facade it's like oh what does that imply it means that you're gullible and stupid and and it's like oh good job at his citation is you played with toys he's like oh yeah you got me dead right saying this like to the wrong like proud it's just really like it's it's like it's actually mean like and he doesn't realize it probably don't know me very well maybe we can be friends in another life today i'm going to try and bring these movies back down a peg the bits and the bits of the yeah the fact that you can take on the prequels and everyone in on the planet that likes them or doesn't think that they're worse than the sequels i'm picturing the prequels if these prequels did as a child he sees the prequels as this monster while i feel like the prequels right now just this guy is hanging out and he's like i'm gonna fucking kill you the prequel guy's like what i didn't do anything like calm down calm down sequels and then we're all standing there we're not a huge fan of that guy he's fine you know he's he's he's cool in some ways not cool in other ways and then he's just like cosmo goes to fucking hit him we're like dude chill out you're alone he's just hanging out i was like yeah but you guys say that he's good oh because i hate them and when people disagree with me i feel uncomfortable i i you say that as a joke but i mean i was gonna say i already got that that's about that yeah welcome to like real life you're not gonna meet someone that agrees with you on 100% of that you you know your opinions on this i'm sure he was joking oh yeah sure he was fine now before i start tearing into the movie i should be fair and talk about the good things all right this isn't the worst movie ever made so it has to have some positive qualities i hate it when people say that it's not perfect it's not the worst movie ever made oh really oh well he was using it as a logical statement he said if it's not the worst movie therefore it must have something that's good it is like huh couldn't you have more than one of the worst movie ever made well like i don't that's all right yeah if i go for it what are the positives i don't know it doesn't have the worst movie ever made it doesn't have something you know of good quality in it even yeah like even the worst movie ever made probably has like one okay thing that it did it's right so uh uh get it the music is pretty good the thing is almost every aspect of this movie that's sort of okay has a little asterisk right above it he doesn't think the costumes are good well he said anything that's good has an asterisk next to it so i suppose we'll have to see what it means let's see i want to say the effects are good because a lot of them are technically very impressive for a movie that came out in 1999 jar jar looks pretty good but the effects aren't always integrated into the movie it's very consistent yeah well i think that's what he's saying actually so yeah and sing way i mean the pod racing scene is pretty cool because it's the only time in the movie where you feel like you're not dead that's probably the only enjoy okay the only enjoyable scene like you're really going to say that like there's an elephant in this room i was gonna say the dothmore fight is always what people reference like you felt dead watching that okay i know some people will say that this is their favorite of the prequels specifically because of the dark mall yeah it's a really cool fight it's a really cool fight enjoyable scene other than the final battle oh okay i'd say the final battle is the one scene that is so cool it tricked people into liking this movie i tricked them oh you know what i really did like it and i thought it was good yeah and i also didn't like the other stuff in the movie so it didn't trick me get fucked you two both of you were tricked darn it only i'd notice sooner so called this ending yes it is for just a little bit after it came out sometimes an exciting ending can fool an audience into thinking of but you just said rogue one was good didn't you one wasn't all that bad or that bad but now it's one of the films that's also tricked us it's like okay one didn't trick me because i watched the ending and i still didn't really like the movie all that much the ending is cool but like i love the end trick me doesn't have to be an all or nothing all the time i don't know right it's like oh either trick you or it didn't trick you when you see through the facade i'm curious about thing like so if the scene itself is good and we then believe it is good we were tricked into thinking it's good well or is it that we think the whole film is good because we were tricked by one good scene being good probably the follow-up to that is how do i determine whether or not someone was tricked or whether or not they earnestly believe it why would i assume that everyone and how many scenes have to be good before a film being considered good is not a trick anything gives us uh for parameters he's just gonna contradict yeah it won't take long the movie is good and this final battle is actually pretty dope but at the same time it's kind of hard to enjoy it when you realize that you don't care about any of the things that are happening in this movie why is that your argument i thought he was gonna go somewhere that i could agree with with that but no he went with the stupid argument you don't care about anything in the movie it's like why would you why i do i do don't tell anyone stop telling us what we care about i promise i know what i care about better than you anything i just like the idea that nobody cares about or if you want to like really really you gotta really i'll be honestly man when when when he sees his mask to get stabbed i'm like oh that pull fucker yeah that's poor dude like the literal counter to this is saying oh well i kid yeah then it's done now what now what do you do your feelings are invalid because you were tricked or brainwashed smaller oh those pesky that doth light doth well i'd save a trick me it made me think the film was good damn it it means you think that obi won a character you had already seen in the original series uh uh trilogy uh you do not care about him in this movie when you get to see him when he was young you guys were all tricked we were all brainwashed like a chat chat is filled with i kid yeah i know right people i of course people can care don't surprise me chat people can care while simultaneously concluding it wasn't even good that's thing it's not all or nothing with these movies some parts can be good other parts can be bad that doesn't mean that i was tricked into liking the all that you did or did not care about any given seed it's like there's so much have you just i cared that the kid that finally got his turbo man doll was now becoming a jedi or was going to become a jedi i cared okay was turbo man after all before that would what other people like i don't know was the was was jingle all the way out after all before this i can't remember i think you know all the way was 2000 but i might be wrong on that let's google well that's my favorite yeah i can agree with that i think that's the one i went with lost e-fab actually all the e-fab mini actually so i guess not including diehard right um 1996 see oh okay yeah yeah you're right uh i remember watching that thing and hey it's the kid from jingle all the way oh now he's gonna become a jedi that's awesome his dad his dad was arnold uh he gave his doll away for another kid and now he's going to become a jedi this is great good for him it didn't bother me that he had bad acting because i was a kid and i didn't notice that kind of stuff uh but yeah yeah i cared i fucking cared why is he so obsessed with what other people think he doesn't really talk about the film he's constantly taking it back to your he's very obsessed with the meta as opposed to actually like analyzing the film and i feel like that's leading him astray because a lot of it seems to be influenced by what other people think yeah like like he's more of an aggregate critic than an actual person i think he's upset that people don't see things the way he does so yeah he's clearly upset about it to make to make to brainwash you to think the way he does there's some people that they cannot wrap their fingers around the fact that people think differently and people have different opinions and that's okay my mind has immediately recontextualized this is cosmonaut as anakin and everyone's there just like you know it's like you know you're all right i love that like the idea of him looking at the prequels and yelling that you turned them against me you have done that to yourself so you're allowed to give away for me hopefully this ends with him choking the sequels but yeah your lust for subscribers has already done that what do you make that the lack of standards has already i've seen through the lives of the of those prequels i shall restore peace freedom and security to my sequels your sequels you really only a set of deals and shitty hypocritical statements what i just like the idea of like attic uh no that's right cosmonaut my allegiance is too true to objectivity is also one single line that i kind of like in this movie perhaps i killed a jedi and took it from i don't think so no one can kill a jedi and they're like spotons i'm just gonna pause and gain compitisms you never know with these sources and carefully does that i mean i like him too i wish i kind of want more of him like exchange i've heard it it was highlighted in efet podcast talk once and the thing is this is a a tiny decent exchange that takes place within a fucking bizarre conversation the weird one yeah it was a really weird conversation with shme and all of them eating it's really weird but this individual part of it yeah this one's good this this little this this back and forth this and um just this part these couple lines yeah it's like it's a i think it's a good length is foreboding for um we know after having seen the ot it's like all the jedi and the reporter things are going to change and the fact that he's like yeah like they can be killed it's like um but they're like spotons you know and i like yeah i would have liked to see more of him because he's not as um he's not like a part of this monolithic jedi idea he seems to be more uh interested in his own ideas quite gone was an interesting jedi i would have liked to see more before he was cut down by the evil doth mule in his prime well it would have been cool if he maybe died at the beginning because we we've talked about this the idea of like if you got rid of the phantom menace and instead had it all take place like clone wars yeah just simple stuff like maybe kill him in the the end of the second movie yeah like kill him during the clone wars now and now like obi one has to take the responsibility of mentoring anakin along that yeah that can help with the disjointed like he's like you're not like quite gone you're not as good as quite gone as a teacher like oof so it'd be some good drama oh man juicy drama right there that would have made it more like brothers because obi one yeah i mean yeah yeah yeah like that and obi one is the older brother nine years old so i mean i feel like that's unless you have older siblings i mean those even like so my brother he's 17 years older than me it's like he damn i think he seemed more like you know i can't say not brother because then he gets mad but he didn't seem like a sibling because we can grow up together you know so when anna when obi one does you're my brother it's like i don't know maybe a nephew maybe yeah i mean i don't know i feel like we didn't see any of that so it's hard for me to buy i would advocate that anakin should have been like 10 years older than he was when we found him give him a lot more of the slavery life to have weighed on him uh and then push him closer to obi one's age and push just haven't been together for a lot longer before that's the thing right like with the proof was like oh these are relatively they're minor tweaks in the i mean they're big but they're all derived from the the material that's present whereas you want to make these tweaks yeah and our goal here is the we want to feel more for the payoffs that currently exist like we're like these are good payoffs we just want to we want to tweak them so that we can get more tisms to them more potent while the sequels we're like we need to change these these payoffs are all wrong we're gonna stop these payoffs it's terrible yeah i kind of like the subtle foreshadowing in that line and that's one of the only times i'm ever gonna call these movies subtle so enjoy it but the main positive in this movie is definitely the music the john williams score is always the one aspect of these movies that is on point i want to believe that old johnny saw these movies and was like okay i gotta try to fix these funny fact about the uh the prequels from what i understand um george lucas kind of had to push uh john williams to keep the choir in the uh jewel of the fates because john williams wasn't sure if it was um right and george wickers was like nah as you keep him in and like that's one of the most iconic songs in this entire series i don't like the framing of george wickers didn't give a shit i don't agree i think he did care well i think you probably like you know well he just said that john williams uh he likes to think john williams trying to rescue the prequels with his songs but uh john williams trying to enhance the material that he thought was already well what is music supposed to do if not that it's like emotionally tricky you oh right yeah okay fucking violence man i hate those violins it's insistent that's right it's it's upon itself and but it is kind of unintentionally funny sometimes because you'll be visually looking at nothing happening in these movies but the music will be popping the fuck off that is something happening but i don't know what the music was for that moment i will say that i don't think that was very unemotional i mean they're i don't know about that one like all right he's just being a dick now because he's just showing them running that's why he's just like oh i was gonna say that i pitched the music so i feel like that ruins the point of the you're trying to make by changing the music and saying the music doesn't fit there's a lot there's a lot of this is wrong so you've got to take the context of what events are actually taking place versus this shot someone is walking and they've got music on it that doesn't suit someone walking it's like yeah but there's more going on than that we're about to see the shot of uh anakin heading toward samriel jackson about to fucking kill palpatine like this is pretty big tisms and you're like but he's walking you're running like maybe that shot hangs a bit longer than it needs to i can like probably agree with that i honestly feel like when he started walking that was supposed to be when he cut because they told him oh when you get to this yeah possibly yeah and then they had to extend it for editing reasons and so they left it because it doesn't make sense why he would just stop right there but that's all i can say in the way of praise these movies honestly fail at almost every level of filmmaking uh really the costings weren't good the makeup wasn't good again the sets weren't good uh some of the chase scenes weren't good really no good cinematography so we are going to watch this movie with the same framework that we watched a new hope in don't even don't even you framework yeah you you can't use the same framework for both of these trilogies and come out saying the sequels are good the prequels are bad oh well he said a new hope but my point is more so that his framework seems to change whenever he fucking decides it's gonna for the first time i'm gonna try to watch this movie with my fully evolved film brain i'm going to uh all right there but ten days i've never seen this movie before and right off the bat the opening title crawl is just too much well i mean honestly i prefer better than the dead speak okay let's address what he said is it too much for like no i i i was able to follow it quite well so yeah sets it up pretty well let's just pretend for a second that he's in this call and he's like it's too much i'd be like i'm interested to know how you're gonna qualify that like how you're gonna qualify there's too many things in there i'm guessing is what you can say like how do you even you know like what's the correct amount of things maybe he just can't process over x amount of things but well in before he reads out a line and then says what even is the blah blah blah and then he reads out another line goes what even is the blah blah blah i'm pretty sure that's what we're gonna get remember when i talked about how perfect the title crawl isn't a new hope it's simple effective and it doesn't throw too much information at us this is the first paragraph in the phantom men is title crawl turmoil has engulfed the galactic republic the taxation of trade rots to outlying stars what nine okay what oh come on you've been unfair at that point you're like what about this is too much you know it's two sentences very easy to follow this is what i mean like why why do people who criticize the peoples do this so we got it's it's a galaxy you got a galactic republic they are currently engulfed in turmoil meaning you know clashing on what's what's right what's wrong now you may think wait what are they clashing over well it's the taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems it's be it's in dispute currently uh-huh taxation systems isn't dispute this is the first indication oh you don't want to show the rest okay what was hot about that what was hot about that what it was two sentences can you're fully evolved film brain not a handle fucking taxation man that would fuck that way you can't have it it's just wrong as a movie it's fucking boring there oh it's boring okay we have a fight in like the first two and a half minutes yeah i there are so many things to criticize about these movies and i have a whole list that we've made and people pull these weird ones yeah the title boring i don't understand what means the taxation of trade routes to be in dispute it's not like tariffs or a concept i should be familiar with as an adult i can't believe we're doing that like the the very word like because you know how we always reference like you could have this perfect movie that's all about taxes and a guy in a room doing his tax the the the word tax doesn't mean that the film's boring it's the act of actually writing on the papers that would be boring to watch a character do for two hours that was our point not tax like taxes a concept is just instantly boring it's like no that's not how that works no does he think that history i also i was about to say like the reason why america had their revolution was because they were getting taxed too high like this precedent in history for the biggest country well exactly that's what i mean it's like oh taxation dispute that's boring it's like dude your country exists because of taxation disputes like in the country canadian oh well well in either case the most powerful country in the world was born from tax disputes yeah boy people don't like to get taxed it's all tax between me this is such a lame argument you can do so much better than this but okay let's just continue there are no signs of life about the title crawl i wasn't old enough to read when i watched the original star wars so i had no idea what was going on when that was happening i'm sure he would argue that that's why the films are so good that they can visually explain the story they don't rely on boring title crawls to my recollection i do not remember reading the opening title crawl for the prequel when i watched it for the very first time i mean i can't remember anymore i don't i don't remember what my first initial reaction was to reading the fucking title crawl in phantom menace and whether or not i was bored yeah i guarantee i wasn't bored because the music would have carried it easily nearly when you were tricked by the title crawl into not you were tricked into not being bored that's why you blocked it from your mind oh all right it really was boring but you liked it so you were tricked into liking it you gotta feel bad for the really impassioned accountants who's watching this movie like oh tax of uh tax is actually numbers are really interesting we got it they're an account or society got any accountants in e-fab chat taxation accountants i don't know i feel like it's possible in this movie at all the performances are stiff the lines are dry and lifeless i'd say a some yeah well yeah some of the acting yeah some of the acting is downright terrible um but there's i mean i mean we all everybody even the most ardent prequel haters acknowledge that everything to do with palpatine is great and even mcgregor even mcgregor's lines are often filled with quite a bit of cheekiness he's often very yeah he's i i really like you mcgregor as i do one and also i like quaggon too yeah yeah people people like um quaggon delivers his lies like a dead person's like no no no he's the word i know it's memed the word is stoic it is it is applicable i'm sorry they're like oh all he could do is describe him as stoic it's like what he is but well some people are stoic well that's what i mean around and that's something that you see like right when he sees anakin he like his face lights up because he can sense the force now i will say that it's a shame that padme's acting is absolutely atrociously bad a lot of delivery i have to assume it's the direction or something because natalie polman's a fine actress like she's done a lot of her shit but like some of the ways she delivers lines are very strange like um remember when she says i am not asking you to help us no i am begging you to help us that thing with boss nas i remember being like oh my god that delivers so weird and uh schmi's actress really shit not gonna lie really bad really terrible i give that to them because here's george hates working with actors so they'd get one take at most and there's even uh the you know one of those behind the scenes things work uh when anakin and padme when she's packing her suitcase to go back to nebu and they're talking one of the cutscenes that shows like george saying all right next scene and uh hayden christensen he's like can i do that again like i i really didn't like that and george is like he's so frustrated that he's like no you you said the lines correctly let's move on and like no that wasn't a good take have you heard the rumors that hayden christensen is reprising his roles anakin and disney star was i heard that yeah so what if he was supposedly he's supposedly shot scene for rise of skywalker that they cut all of it out there's all these what if but that would be one of the things at starware celebration because he was there like i'm not gonna make any stakes about the quality of the writing they're probably gonna destroy anakin even more but um what if they like have a scene with him that's quite emotional and he like nails it like hayden christensen now i'd be cool be like oh shit well he's not a bad actor if you watch his other movies it's i mean i saw a wake and i remember being he was mostly asleep for the whole film so his voice acting and that was pretty dramatic yeah i need to see that again probably i don't remember having any problems but yeah i mean i'm more interested in cosmonauts writing criticisms like as for the acting i'm like and the movie isn't even directed in an engaging way it's not directed in an engaging way just probably the fact that you acknowledge that the fights are really well shot and the pod race is good and i would want to say what do you mean by that yeah directed in an engaging way i assume he means you have jj abram's where the camera can't stay fucking still it has to run around it's like well it keeps and i'm not saying that that's a bad thing right like the idea that the camera is flowing and it's trying to keep up with the action to make you feel like it's frenetic itself but the idea that like that's just better than a camera not moving i'm just like uh you have to do better than that i think he's not to say what he means actually everybody kind of talks the same and it's really no he's not awkward talks like this this is incredible why did you choose that why that why that you have so many other examples besides you chose an alien yeah you chose like a weird old alien saying this is incredible it's like oh that's why do you do this to yourself the fist thing in chat an alien this is like yeah why did you pick an alien why does the nymoidian talk the way he does listen listen look how weird this alien talks you show job good basically every lion Padme says is awkwardly delivered in this weird robotic bizarre tone and delivery and you chose this yeah hopefully he'll keep giving examples hopefully he'll we recommend a commission be sent to the bull to ascertain the truth the congress of malice there can curse with the you know what i like the malice there guys the what's wrong with the malice there the congress of malice there yeah all of the things to pick why doesn't he pick i don't like sand well one of the awkwardly delivered lines and he picks this a bunch of aliens yeah he picks people who have different accents by design because they're aliens and it's like well that doesn't sound american to me when you start the movie you might like the echo it's really cool oh well just talking this weird overly wordy way because they're like warrior monks i kind of accept the fact that they talk weird but everybody fucking talks like except the jamaican and the literal child i'm sorry i need to play that again what do you just say lifeless and the movie isn't even directed in an engaging way everybody kind of talks the same and it's really awkward like who the fuck talks like how could you possibly say everyone talks the same like i don't talk the same what we were highlighting was how some people are worse yeah that's what i mean like there's some people are noticeably worse than others so obviously they wouldn't be talking the same i don't like this this is incredible we recommend a commission be sent to i don't even know i'm gonna have to keep pausing this bit i didn't mean to go back this far but you know coputisms again when you start the movie you might think that the Jedi just talking this weird overly wordy way because they're like what's i don't i don't remember them talking in a weird wordy way i don't either they just seem to be pretty normal yeah maybe a little bit really helpful or formal but not overly wordy it's more just formal language i would say yeah they're not yeah they're not overly casual they're not flipping pretty much yeah for your monks i kind of accept the fact that they talk weird but everybody fucking talks like this except the jamaican and the literal child i don't know i got nothing yeah i got nothing here so and while they may sound different their line delivery is on another fucking level you mean i get to come with you and your starship see joe that's not a particularly bad line considering his other ones i saw yeah yeah it's it's weird like it's not good but you have a treasure trove of weird lines from this child actor you're not making good example choices here and i don't know man like you hang out with children they do uh say things in weird ways yeah they really do like we're not you know i don't want to say that like like they're they're they're kid actors they're amazing out there there's not many but there's there's a couple of stuff it's just like and i'm not saying that jake lewitt is amazing but it's just weird he went for that line that movie the good son no that's with elisha wood and mccole colkin when they're kids it's a great movie it's really twisted it's mccole colkin is a psychopath and elisha's would elisha's would he has to go live with his aunt and uncle but mccole colkin is like trying to kill him but they're kids um how have you never seen a movie it's so so the draw on that is that elisha why do you think uh i think nice mirror before christmas is boring we could ask all kinds of questions all day who knows i can go in for a while and talk about every aspect of why i find the nightmare was boring i won't stop i'll let you make your whole speech and i won't say a word can we talk more about elisha's would i acknowledge other people like the movie i particularly don't also the kids from hillhouse they're fucking great yeah even though why am i shot on them i don't care i don't even care they were really really good they're really good fantastic shock really good actually they're super fucking young it's like whoa george has this weird problem where his dialogue is kind of the worst thing about his movies i'm not lying man even in the original star wars the instant classic his actors constantly made fun of him for his dialogue and then i started reading and it seemed to me the dialogue was pretty ropy it's a true story harrison ford who plays the space pirate in the film at one point threatened to tie george up and and make him say his own lines of gunpoint but back then he had a team to help him fix up the script and make it sound like lines that real people would say star wars should be simple we just saw haun solo talking like it should be i'm sick of these should yeah things should be i don't know how i feel about all of that by the way like uh i feel like you can't for for pragmatic reasons i might agree like you guys clearly can't handle anything other than simple and even then it's really shaky mm-hmm oh yeah well i i meant more about the dialogue like the idea that it was always bad it only before he had people to help him it's like um so this presupposes then that there is no good dialogue in the prequels right which i disagree with i disagree uh hold on i'm double checking yeah no star wars the first one was written by george lucas like he wrote it well yeah but he's saying like ah well the fact that it's good or has good dialogue in it means that he's not responsible which i think is bullshit that's bullshit yeah you can't say that uh similarly twice the pride double the fall that's usually one of the ones i would reference it's like oh well that must have been someone else because it's good it's like okay and plus and and and the thing is right it's like you know that again the middle grass like yeah this this ain't like Aaron sorkin level you know screenwriting here but it's not it's not like the worst dialogue ever there's just bad lines mixed in in other prequels i just wanted to get to the point i'd say that overall it's not good but there are definitely things you can pull out of it absolutely many examples yeah and i just i think that we have to we have to be fair it's like so these bad lines fucking george lucas nice one but then you go oh these good lines okay good job george lucas yeah he's the director he gets the same right he's the director star wars should be simple like a regular fucking guy and now all the characters talk like weird shakespeare robots and that's a lot of politicians yeah i mean go watch like parliament taking place in britain like you can find them on youtube and stuff a lot of it's very confusing you listen to them you're like wait what what are you like because they have to use a lot of official informal language to explain what they're trying to get across the word that i've heard people use to describe this dialogue shakespearian but that's honestly using the word wrong in my opinion i've always seen a work as shakespearian we said is i don't know about shakespearian why i would just ask someone what they mean specifically i want to see what he's defining a shaker we'll talk about how the actions of the characters dictate their emotions it's less the actions of the characters dictate their emotions that's what shakespearian is according to that's just writing in general i was gonna say how is that not just ubiquitous writing yeah they say and more about how they feel yeah it's not just shakespearian because they fight that means they want to it's annoying it's not shakespearian if they talk funny i don't think that's what the person's argument would have been this hypothetical person wouldn't have said well they talk funny because shakespear what and it makes it impossible to connect to the characters and this manner of speech makes impossible i connected like yeah they're speaking a different language here jeez so that we never really know who these characters are on a deeper level what oh my god oh i mean if he says so uh yeah i yeah well i was just told that i i don't care about these people and they don't have a deeper level to understand them on i'm just like oh so uh us seeing quigan say if you don't let me train the boy i'm gonna go off and train him on my own the straight of defying the entire jedi council that he is no other deeper level i'm gonna do what i think is right what needs to be done you know it's impossible to understand so be it everyone in this movie is telling quigan like all of the jedi even obi one they're like no don't do this no you're you're you're reaching you're really reaching that this boy is the chosen one he's like i don't care i believe it and i'm gonna follow through with it i like the idea is to say you must train the boy not yo obi one you are a great apprentice i love you always have always will like have a great life no he's just like train the fucking kid that's his dying wish he doesn't have any deeper levels all right i like the idea i really like the idea that he's watching the scene where everyone's screaming no as well no as quigan gets stabbed in the gut and he's just like i don't you know i can't connect to this i don't understand why you feel this way yeah i need him to i don't understand what's the problem yeah why do you care i mean he's just you know itchy stomach he just needed to get the scratch in the neck because none of these characters have character traits what that falls for a citation needed yeah i'm sorry that's possibly the most disagreeable thing you said they of course have traits like it's yeah yeah hey these things they don't have traits like myself but i just gave a really big character pretty much yeah oh my god even for we can go into palpatine you're saying palpatine didn't have any great palpatine has no traits watching him play both sides yeah the first thing that came to mind for me was devious yeah well i mean if you can do it in one word right or be one cheeky you know i've just been reminded category two invalid yeah i'm sorry i should say category two yeah you know what else could all i need to do is name one character with one trait and he's done so we did it good cataract of it lads we did it they also never talk about how they feel and all of the dial they never talk about how they feel that's incorrect as well you know what's the attack of the clones all anakin is doing is talking about his feeling about how he feels well in finnish in finnish he's talking strictly about tpm right now so just sight a scene where someone talks about how they feel in that film i've got one where padme is talking to anakin and he's explaining how he's very much not ready for whatever the hell's gonna happen and uh he gives her the thing that he makes it a little little i forget what it's called and um and he explains how he feels about seeing her as well the you look like an angel that shit i just he also says he feels cold yeah yes objectively he is wrong anakin described that he felt cold in her talent vlog is just to tell us what is litter do you remember when obi won apologizes to quigon because he felt like he might have been uh too brash and sort of ignoring quigon's interest and his goals and that uh quigon's expressed like difficulty with the council he goes against it like what i'm trying to advocate for here is like huh traits huh feelings huh happening in the story take all the dialogue scenes in this movie and think about what their purpose is in the story two characters explaining where they are and what they're doing characters coming up with a plan characters coming up with a plan characters coming up with a plan and meeting someone new characters making a deal is fucking normal yeah that's like saying oh independence day when they're explaining the plan to go and deliver the virus to the mothership oh that's bad writing that's bad this is very uncharitable is the problem yeah he's been super uncharitable what's he saying is he's saying the i just got back he's saying all the dialogue does is advance the plot and it never looks like nobody ever talks about how they feel dialogue does is advance the plot so first of all that's a good thing secondly what is what is strange thing to say yeah uh yeah i could do the reverse argument i could be like this film never has any dialogue that progresses the plot and then i just show you a montage of all the times they talk about how they feel like it's not hard to do this it's just dishonest editing um yeah odd i guess i guess see the better way to phrase that would be the dialogue doesn't do enough to establish the characters or to flesh out the characters of the world which i yeah i would have agree with yeah i think more could be done but this is the problem is that they go hyperbolic and they're like nothing is done these aren't characters you're like motherfucking yes they are yeah that's i i could pull again this this movie's like three out of ten i think it's shit but man there's good stuff there there is lines here to pull from like there there is stuff there there is gold in them their hills you just have to go find it not with the sequel trilogy though there ain't no gold in them there though the that mine is oh that has been dried up for decades now and everyone knows the old star wars mine dried up decades ago and coming up with a plan characters talking about the plot and what's happening characters coming up with a plan characters coming up with a plan so what about the scenes where they discuss their feelings about things what about that what about them well don't worry it flirting funny little character she said he's funny flirting that's flirting have you ever been around oh my god no oh my god why would he show Padme why wouldn't he show Anakin saying are you an angel why like why choose instead of when actually do you think he thinks that anytime a woman provides you any kind of compliment she's floating with you i heard Anna say that he was a funny little dog i don't like her flirting with him it's terrible don't do that it ain't right in front of everybody to a right call him somewhat of funny it's flirting good stuff that's shit right there called me funny what are you some kind of queer just coming up with a plan do you see the fucking problem here there are very few scenes of our characters being normal people and expressing emotions in this movie the shot you just showed was Qui-Gon trying to come up with a way to rescue Anakin and his mother from slavery because i mean i don't even know if she'd go on it's weird that we could go we could talk about it till the cows come home about how the plan is executed and how it's done and the details of it but it's pretty obvious what he's doing yep there is legitimately only one scene of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon talking to each other about anything that isn't the immediate plot the only time they have a fucking heart is at the end of the movie i agree they should have had more yeah it has kind of bizarre that he had these characters split up for this whole movie essentially yeah i would have kept over on this movie yeah you know and then did the same with Anakin and Obi-Wan in the next episode yeah i feel like the reason why he did that was because he's like everyone knows who Obi-Wan Obi is so let's have him not take the the screen time or the thunder away from Qui-Gon to make you care about Qui-Gon which i think was probably misguided yeah but having Anakin around to Qui-Gon if anything would help flesh Qui-Gon out with his relationship yeah i just especially with the pale i was a good choice i think Obi-Wan should have been in it more but i think that's probably what George's thought process was was let's have maybe you know because if Obi-Wan's there everyone knows already who Obi-Wan Kenobi is their focus is going to be on Obi-Wan i think uh that's what i mean is i think it's misguided because the benefit should be people know who Obi-Wan is so if we have the scenes with them together that's gonna just because they're in proximity with each other if their relationship gets fleshed out a lot of the love that people have for Obi-Wan is gonna get placed onto Qui-Gon because they value the relationship he has with the character who they like and i would just say that with the one of the biggest payoffs of the movie being the reaction to Qui-Gon's death and Qui-Gon's death in general i'd be like you gotta probably better to build up how important he is to Obi-Wan not saying there isn't just saying more of it would be cool also i uh i'm gonna have to call it there guys i would like to you know we only got 10 minutes in but no yeah i will have to call it there do you do you have any chance of going back or are you abandoning us forever um it will probably be yeah it will probably be forever yeah for all time oh my goodness then i can tell that you're quite upset um yeah uh oh is this where i shill or no i mean i think people probably would have subscribed if they wanted by now with how regular audio but you could do it anyway what's what's coming next for Fringy the youtube channel oh the youtube channel i don't know boy i'm making a comic but that's gonna be a while away yeah two pages down so it's like no progress really at all but are you gonna do like an indiegogo type thing or is it gonna release it for free honestly because it's like the first it's the first one so it's just like oh i'll do the pages and then i'll probably start releasing them when it's done i'll just upload a free pdf for that one have you ever done like a webtoon uh i've heard of that website but um i don't use it but that's probably a good actually option i might it's actually really good i'd recommend it if you just want to put it out for free and it already has like an established audience so if you want to do free what and then if it gets popular you can get paid well effectively um what my goal is is uh i just was like i need to like actually make something i need to just like sit down and make something because the idea would be that at some point in the future i'd want to make something bigger and longer and actually professional and then release that and then do the kick oh and also congratulations on your uh kickstarter was that kickstarter was it indiegogo the one that you did yeah thank you um but yeah no that's that's the plan right now and as for like a video i don't know like follow me on twitter i don't post there much anymore either so so pretty much i'm uncontactable but uh yeah it's been fun it's been fun this morning we will miss you sir i can't believe you only showed up for how long was it four and a half hours yeah nearly five hours you're only ten minutes in good luck at least you got past that that was those were a dense ten minutes though yes i know it's uh i've already seen this video by the way um and just yeah fyr for the rest of it just you know it's bad video it's really bad and like the prequels aren't even good movies and he screwed it up so yeah good job all right uh yeah it was fun guys all right catch you later bye bye here we go hello it's that bullshit man yeah it's a green guy here no he left he abandoned us in our time of need no less thank god all right um if you got it got it got a link in there in that text channel if you want to want to grab that it'll send you to a watch together in which yeah things are happening i want me to grab you're still in the cosmos aren't you yes it's um yeah it's something else it's it's been a wild adventure i really think we've covered a lot of what you could call the corners of his psyche uh yeah i i came in about halfway through that because i was out pretty earlier today but uh wow this one's a tough one um yeah if you want to just jump in we'll uh get get you sink a rune aid i think i got a scroll here it is isn't it here we go get all cut up here uh oh part two um i think we're good right yes okay right now i'm on zero i don't know if that's correct just drag you around is that about is that working oh there we go the only time they have a fucking heart to heart is at the end of the movie for 99 percent of the runtime these characters have no relationship to one another and we never learn how they feel about each other i don't even know if that's true i'd have to double check i definitely agree that their relationship is severely lacking in its um depth i feel there's there's really almost nothing here by how they interact you can definitely infer a lot about their relationship um i don't know that jacks with his master yeah which is quite interesting actually is a dynamic um i just yeah like in uh tattooing i just feel like if obi want to just gone with them we could have gotten uh lots of opportunities for so much different things we had to bring jar jar is very important that jar jar was there and padme is very important you fuck if they'd left jar on the ship we probably wouldn't have destroyed all of it so misa tried to fix the hyperdrive it was catastrophic whoopsie poopsie oh no we're expected to care when this happens i do care this but okay uh i do care i i mean i still think that seed is something i care about yeah i'm gonna put it out there i still can't i i care i don't know what else to say you said i i we don't but i do yeah this is what we've reduced to an e-fab like i care uh i cared yeah there it comes again in chat i kid got lots of i kid we've all been brainwashed to care we don't actually care we were brainwashed to care the e-fab equivalent of i am spartacus they just stand up head on heart i kid i can't this movie also has some of the most flat performances i've ever seen i don't fully understand this is a strange place to me there is zero chemistry between any of these actors i don't agree with that this chemistry between obi-wan and kwagon back and forth like especially the one that he was referencing with a uh after just they've spoken to the council i don't know chemistry is complicated as well in terms of being definitive about whether or not it's present you need to be like you gotta explain yourself a little better well even like the snarkiness between kwagon and padme and she's like i disagree with you and he's like well we're gonna do it anyway yeah i think that's fair um i don't know man like i kind of want to get to the more definitive parts of this because the you kind of already covered the acting i'm like yeah okay fine zero i mean literally no chemistry this movie is not fun to watch it's not even fun to make fun of i mean i don't know i have a lot of fun making fun of it what a weird thing to say like it's not fun to make fun of something you're like how do you uh i like it is the ultimate you know power of what he gets to dictate on what people get enjoyment yeah there's a lot of that in this video there's a lot of like you feel this way don't you are you like no but okay no fun now i don't know like i guess the only genre you could say that's not fun to make fun of would be like bad comedies but uh now this game this uh this movie was uh a lot of fun to make fun of i think it made a career out of it i've been making fun of this new scene from the rise of skywalker because of this particular line yeah so before whatever he qualifies it as it's dumb as fuck because flight is not remotely a new thing in this universe and shocked being shocked by this when it's the most affluent faction in the entire universe like oh they have jet packs which have existed since like 50 years ago at least oh my goodness what will they have also one of the issues of this was the fact that disney created comics and canon for po dameron where he witnesses this happening before the events of this film and then they have him be surprised by the fact that they do the thing that he saw in canon that they created and i don't know man it's dumb it's too quippy it sounds like marvel dialogue okay that's not even see this is why i did that i was curious if he would just like fuck up the criticism it's like it's too quippy like oh because that's something that we could easily qualify what is too quippy what is not too quippy what does quippy even like characters being witty and quick uh in maybe they say shit with a smirk like when you feel the only argument you can make you have to make an argument that they wouldn't say that although it's totally inconsistent with the situation you can't just say like they did a quip bad that's all again i wouldn't say quippy but he's like he's going to be arguing against that when that wasn't even like one of the things i mean witty is that you can just you know pull it out of thin air quick witted why would you make a whole nother word was it what's the what's the noise in the background for you and it's like a that is the cricket the sun has gone down and there is a cricket i've been like two weeks now is cricket in your room he's fucking i i've tried i have i'm serious he's like he's he's trying to try to ruin this video he's trying to be like this is how people feel about this video cricket that's really clever i'll have you though oh my god i like how i subscribed i subscribe because he doesn't provide examples of the things that he say and i like his voice okay it does make it does make it easier for me to accept the things he says is true because there's a lot of examples okay yeah whatever let's talk about this for a second though compare this chase scene to a chase scene from this movie our heroes are gonna why are we doing this all right i thought we would like to talk about why the prequels suck not whether or not this chase scene is better than the other one by the way gonna be tough competition the rise of skywalker one is shite be eaten by a giant monster i wonder how they feel about this oh they don't really they don't really care these characters just can't be bothered to give a shit um so jarger freaking the fuck out and the jedi remaining calm like they've been trained you said they were trained warrior monks they're acting like trained warrior monks jarger is flipping the fuck out right now he has to be a vulcan nerve pinched yeah and i was gonna say probably reasonable to interfere that they are like right freaking out it's not gonna help we gotta we gotta do this the best way we can as long as we can get through this it'll be fine like it's that's the attitude they clearly have with a lot of stuff the only time you even see obi one freak out is when quaggons definitively killed essentially okay yeah man i won't worry even when they're planning the final battle they don't tell someone who's panicking to relax because i mean i'm like we're 11 but it's in we got three movies to cover like come on once we're inside we shouldn't have a problem oh yeah it won't be a problem no use in me being emotionally invested the movie he's listening once they're inside there shouldn't be a problem yeah because the idea is that all the defenses are on the outside once they get in it shouldn't be hard to get to the viceroy that's i mean there are other things to criticize about that plan but you've gone for one that i don't even see the problem on like uh sounds all right to me don't make any sense they don't help his argument if anything all of us can think of a better example in the movie that's like if you were really trying to push this you should have used this instead of this he has low stakes low energy and it really doesn't low stakes i don't even know that you can low energy i mean the energy one is a little harder to be definitive about but low stakes like i don't know it's the lives of all of our characters it is not pretty high stakes i don't know nope because i don't care about the characters because things no we don't care about the characters because he said we don't care about the character doesn't allow you to engage with it in the same level that you would with any other star wars movie so yeah personally i'll take these corny energetic performances that was your comparison wow all right then oh he's arguing in favor of them aren't you he's looking at it solely from the framing the one set of characters who are completely different by the way are all energetic and the other ones are less energetic it's like hmm that's it huh all right it's over this shit any day of the fucking week but hey that's just me so anyway let's talk about the actual plot and i'm gonna be honest with you guys i have never known the plot of this movie until now why i don't even know what to make of that i i don't understand like i understood when i was a child watching this seems really weird that you didn't understand this most of the times when i watch this movie it's with friends where we just quote the awkward or funny moments until we get bored and turn it off halfway through but as far as the plot goes i am only just now piecing it together after having watched this movie for 20 years i don't know what to i don't know what to say so hold on is he saying that he watched this regularly for 20 years and only now he's getting it but the plot is simple it i don't understand why he didn't get it it really isn't complicated i that says more about him than the movie that's i was kind of going that way like i don't know what i'm like you did okay well all right that is not a good sign but hey maybe it's just i don't know that it's a bad sign for the film or bad sign for something else i don't know i'm thinking something else it's me right maybe i'm the dumbass who just doesn't get it so i even asked you guys on twitter if you knew the plot of this movie he gets it most of you didn't yeah because you're yeah so first off it's not even that close um i want to i want to have this so i don't know if this is not clear there are things called variables right so number one who knows what the last time people watched the phantom menace was people who voted on this secondly uh he's done videos that are sympathetic to like uh the sequel trilogy and he's already shot on the prequels so you can imagine there's a bent against the the prequels in his audience like okay literally you don't even know necessarily what they mean when they say nope lol they could be like oh i get most of it but not all of it like that could be it you don't even know it's just like this what does this prove exactly another thing too is he kind of poisoned the well a little bit by saying what he thinks already and i think that that could influence people's votes a little just to kind of be like oh you know i i like this guy and i want to agree with him sort of thing i don't know that's just a bit of tin foil hat for me but i feel like if he just said an answer pretty much yeah so if he just asked the question i think that it would be far closer or in the other direction if uh if he just plain asked the question and not use the words like actually explain or anything like that is like if you were asked to explain could you and then ask the question and i think that would actually explain yeah the wording of that is very much and and this is a thing you haven't seen you should know the answer if i hadn't seen the film in a year i might be like well i mean i can't like maybe i can't fully explain or like i don't know i can get you the basics i don't know if that counts as ds or no no fuck that i could explain that to him even if the last time i watched it was back in that i just don't i don't know how useful this is like explain the plot of it's his audience that are voting on this i mean i feel like what if you said like could you fully explain the plot of tfa i imagine some people would be like uh they're trying to get the map to luke uh i think like yeah i agree a lot to all of those damn movies as stupid as they are i'm just trying to highlight that like this is it's just such a there's so many variables that this is just worthless really i actually expected most of you guys to lie or just check the wiki how do you know they're not lying honest how do you know they're not lying i can explain that right so if they if they disagree with him they're lying exactly he's got a very thorough system it's like they've been tricked about the plot and tricked about this and tricked about that because the plot is overly complicated i mean it is but that's not why we don't understand it overly complicated i understand it it's really simple i guess well he said he wants it simple but this counts as overly complicated apparently it's because the plot is not conveyed properly to the audience for a movie that's mostly just our characters telling us what they're going to do and then doing that thing with no diverging paths this movie is really bad at conveying what the story is i'm waiting for arguments it actually isn't i mean i'm just waiting for him to actually qualify it the story is presented to us in a way where we cannot understand it unless we can read you keep saying this over and over again that it just doesn't make it's like qualify it tell me what doesn't make sense what's complicated example help me convince me don't just say it convince me the minds of the characters in this movie information is conveyed in a very strange you said this already i swear to god i'm gonna lose my friends and vague way take for example the scene where anakin is being interviewed by the jedi council they ask him some random questions and then they say sorry he's evil we cannot train him that's not at all they said he's too old and that he has fear in him and also they don't really focus too much on this but the fact that he already has like an emotional bond to his mother that's one of the reasons why they take younglings away when they're infant so they don't have that kind of bond with someone that way it can't be used against them to turn to the dark side which is one of the really big reasons why anakin turns the dark side because he knew what love would they don't want people with superpowers being evil okay oh boy they say they sense fear in anakin and that is the main reason why he's not to be trained so you're telling me you expect the kid to just not be scared at all there's fear of loss is what they say right fear of losing the mother fear of loss leads to the dark side which by the way i think is dumb but they do explain very clearly why it's not hard to understand what they're meaning here they're very explicit about it yeah the way i understand it anyway it's just the you you're fucking highly attached to your mom sad you're gonna lose her and if you did you just lose your shit and stop using the force to kill younglings they're sure of it they'd like lay that out he says about his age he's like he's too old that was mace windu's first thing like he's too old wouldn't it make more sense to train someone to be less fearful than to just expect them to have the emotions of a jedi once they it's more to do with the fact that he's got attachments all right i can try somebody to be less fearful i dare you i mean yeah yeah someone to be less fearful it's kind of you the way you get someone to be less afraid of something i suppose is to give them more information on it and have them confront it but uh being fearful of losing his mother how do you how do you train that out of him what more maybe they kill his mom help his mom oh yeah that's the see that's the thing you could you could definitely address about attack of the clones they get here they know he's strong in the force but they still tell quigan that he can't train him but what's the alternative just send him back home and hope he doesn't harness his inherent force powers i mean they're not a fucking charity i don't think they just take anybody so yeah i guess the alternative is that he has to leave and it wouldn't necessarily be that he's just guaranteed to be an enormously powerful force user without training i thought that was kind of the point you know before the sequels taking time bomb no matter what well just that if they don't train him then he's no he's not going to be anywhere near as powerful with the force as he would be because what he's trying to highlight is like well if you don't train him he's just going to become super powerful and not have the jedi directing him it's like i don't know that he becomes super powerful without training this is on the topic that the plot is confusing by the way isn't it yeah it took him 20 years to figure it out that says more about him than it does about the movie and quigan just says oh i'm just going to train him anyway are you you're just allowed to do that you can just do whatever you want no he doesn't get to do it everyone's this is one of those character moments that you said don't exist i guess you missed it no that's what he i feel like he when he writes his little script things he sits there and he makes bullet points and he's like okay here's this bullet point here's like a little paragraph on me talking about this and then he records it he finds the clips that he wants to use which he should really spend more time and then he just puts it together and how he thinks it'll make it flow instead of actually writing out like a cohesive essay it feels like it's just bullet points and then they contradict each other yeah uh him defying the council is uh quite a character moment i don't know why that's not you know incongruent although he said before but i guess he just didn't know it if you can do that then why does anybody ask for permission the boy because you can't just do that but why there will be repercussions so he said the boy's dangerous why it's like well so they're worried that his fear of loss is gonna generate tisms inside him anger emotional flisms and they're very concerned that that's where dark side users uh tend tend to go tend to draw powerful horns so and the funny thing is it's like this is all right he is extremely dangerous hence the third movie where he uh does some stuff cannot turn him tisms you will have yoda fucking is very concerned about them tisms literally just tell us why somebody please tell me something please sir may i yoda did he said fear of loss leads to the dark side yep it was pretty simple it's kind of laid it out line from the movie i don't know what else to tell you i don't know what more do you want what's more black and white issue yeah if anything the criticism should be about how the jedi view it all and how they deal with it all as opposed to what they think it's very clear what they think some movie even when you look at the finer details of the movie their shit that just doesn't make any sense okay for instance why would you bring anakin to a war zone excellent excellent point yes a point oh my god an actual criticism of the movie god forbid good job it's like on aris long an apprentice he just grabbed another one and brought him along to the war and i can stay where you are you'll be safe there but i stay in that cockpit you slide here but rick my boss also why would you go down to naboo in separate ships it's kind of a throwaway line and it ends up not mattering in the long run but from a logistical standpoint it doesn't make any logistics matter but the hyperspace ram doesn't it's fine don't worry about it i'm very confused yeah how the hell are you highlighting this but you're okay with the hyperspace kavakazi holy shit especially for a logistic standpoint uh but so so they go on separate transports and meet back up on the ground like uh is he questioning what's the logic there i don't know you guys could just go on the same ship you're really fucking lucky they park next to each other what does palpatine want to i don't think that yeah they didn't park next to each other well unless he means next within a mile of each other yeah exactly in his very clip they're parking really far away from each other yeah like the plant yeah that's really dumb that they just assumed the ships would be close to another i agree i like i don't know it's it's just like i guess it's a small thing of why did they separate and we're supposed to i guess guess at it the best i could do is probably that um in case one i don't know i maybe i agree i guess there's no need to separate because you need to help each other if you caught but if the logic is if one of you caught the other one isn't you know i guess he wants a throwaway line for that specifically uh it's just so small that i'm not sure what to do with with this fucking trade blockade this is his most roundabout and complicated plot ever and he's already known for those he has no problem with killing the jedi in the beginning but he's just gonna try and convince padme politely to accept his terms he doesn't because he's playing different characters in either of these politely convince him politely while he threatens to kill her people is that polite so is he is he referring to palpatine trying to use her for his ploy or is because he wants to kidnap her and force her under duress to sign a treaty that would lose her planet sovereignty seems like a dick move yeah and any decision he makes you have to ask the question can it lead to being voted in as supreme chancellor if so then it's following his goals whether or not it's in the interest of the trade federation of naboo of himself as a senator of naboo of the senate in general none of that matters as long as it's leading him towards his ultimate goal which is big baptism of the universe doesn't have any problem trying to kill her in the later movies i don't understand this man he doesn't need her at that point i was gonna say he doesn't want to kill her in the first movie explicit about that in fact it's an issue that they're shooting at them when they try and leave because like you don't want to kill them what does he even want i always found it strength oh jeez he wants her to sign the treaty he says this multiple times over and over he wants to vote of no confidence in valorem he wants to become supreme chancellor that's pretty much his goal in the first movie he is the phantom menace because every other bad guy is really not the bad guy it's him strange that palpatine's ultimate goal is to just be president and rule everything it seems like a really supreme chancellor i'll let him pass on that he's just what's that yeah he's just making a reductive joke but that's what he does like that's yeah that's what he wants well that's what i mean i'm waiting for the criticism yeah for someone who's supposedly so wise and attuned to the force a simple minded goal power is taking over the galaxy is simple minded goal what i need to hear that again simple minded goal to control the galactic senate and this man what does he even want i always found it strange that palpatine's ultimate goal is to just be the president and rule everything right it seems like a really simple minded goal for someone who's supposedly so wise i'm i'm beyond power he's retarded simple minded goal to rule the galaxy you have to take you have to rule over the people having a some kind of governmental system to do that it would make sense for him to take over that governmental system someone said single minded how would you do all the things you want to do did you say simple minded or single minded both are wrong by the way but did you say single single or single minded simple or single palpatine's ultimate goal is to just be president and rule everything it seems like a really simple minded goal yeah he said simple simple mind definitely simple ruling over the entire galaxy is not ambitious is just completely sent i don't want to say to that all right weird man ruling the galaxy i want to know what he thinks is complicated or complex ruling a small town that's probably complex for someone who's supposedly so wise and attuned to the force that's just not that just doesn't have any follow through if you're wise why would you want to rule the galaxy like what i don't feel that you could rule the galaxy with wisdom i that's kind of what i'm getting at like surely that you desire if anything those two follow i don't know normally i don't really care if a villain's motivations are simplistic especially in star wars but this is a movie that's trying to be more complex than the previous films oh my god i'm so fucking lost so his his original goals to become the old power of the universe in the ot that was nice and simple but his goals in this one being to be all powerful in the galaxy uh no not good enough because this film is trying to be complex what stuff and things i don't understand i'm completely lost now i i got i got nothing and it's just not very good at it the entire plot of all three of these movies revolve around palpatine schemes right schemes never make any sense prove it and how just demonstrate how they do not make any sense show me something give me a line show me a scene convince me that what you're saying is accurate there's also this thing with the prequels where you can sometimes take a single line and try to analyze and i and i think that's an issue with we get with a lot of youtubers they just assume they get to a point where they just assume if i say it it must be true well yeah easy they don't have to convince people they're just like oh i said it so it must be true right because i get that criticism all the time people who hate my videos like you never say anything like you you spend a long time to basically say nothing i'm like all of it is just proof i'm just trying to get through proof so i can then say stuff like this doesn't make sense instead of just saying it doesn't make sense and hoping that the people know what my arguments would have been had i had any is it and it just doesn't make any sense from a simple writing perspective oh tell me this is in oh my god we just explained to you how it he just went on this whole diatribe how like none of the plot makes sense that he's like also by the way there are single lines that don't make sense i'm like you please just provide any citations at all just one example one tiny teensy let us work with something very example a communications disruption can mean only one thing invasion no it doesn't you're telling me that if your communication that is a very like that is a very reason you've got a trade blockage surrounding your planet that no one can get in and out of and your communications have just been cut off that is very fucking concerning yeah an army is at your front door they have arrived you can't leave you can't communicate with anyone you can't ask for help it is extremely reasonable that blockades like this especially cutting off communications proceed in invasion that makes sense on every level you think about and there's plenty of room to say that that member of this council is possibly being a tad hyperbolic even but i don't think he is the idea that you could you could say he's though he's the worrywart of the council or something like that but even still like there's plenty of evidence to be very fucking concerned i don't know messed up the only reason is that you're being attacked you've made a commitment to the Jedi you are not easily broke not easily broken you mean not easily maintained the oath itself is no so what so what he means by not easily broken is there be repercussions yeah you can't just break it and get away with it there's consequences very easily broken only a sith deals in absolutes but obi won that in it congratulations you pointed out something that literally everybody does because it's a funny fucking thing that he said but your other examples the ones that you found instead of the ones you pulled from other people saying stuff were horseshit just fyi itself is an absolute statement george is not good at writing dialogue you can't even be definitive about that statement from obi won because part of the point of the prequels is the the jedi a hypocritical to some degree like the there's plenty of analysis about the jedi and how they operate in the prequels and if you wanted to interpret obi won's line as being a very direct message to the audience that the jedi are far from perfect then you can or you can say it's just terrible dialogue and be like okay um but yeah just say it it's true right i don't know that's that's that's where i'm at i actually appreciate the idea that obi won is being hypocritical without necessarily realizing it uh as opposed to wow george didn't even realize he just wrote an absolute statement while defining what a sith is from a jedi you know that sort of thing sure it would be very funny if it wasn't so sad and i should now probably mention the one thing people say is the biggest problem with this movie jar jar honestly all of the other issues in this movie are actually worse than jar jar lifeless performances bad dialogue a convoluted quite gone i don't know but i like that he sums this up as if he's proven all of this when the whole fucking problem with this video so far is he doesn't have any citations or at least the ones that he does have in the few moments that he actually fucking has them aborked other than the ones that he's stolen from other people who've done this work for him he ain't shown shit agreed and an overall lack of direction are all things that i hate way more than one dumb character and if we're being real while he's annoying his role in the story actually makes more sense than anakin's the worst thing about jar jar is that you literally cannot understand what he's saying i watched this movie with subtitles for the first time and i only now 20 years later have understood what the fuck jar jar has been saying i have no fucking clue you just said but hell yeah man i'm gonna speak my truth but despite this they actually need jar jar around for most of the movie i really hate admitting it but he's so integral to this dumb ass story that you kind of need him here more than you need the other characters however it doesn't make any sense that you're literally true about any most important character yeah i don't even that's how you just self-fulfilling character what an odd thing to say bring him into moss isley with quigan and not obi one kanobi one of the main characters actually i take that back i can't even say he's a main character in this movie it is truly baffling to me how small obi one's role is in this movie i think the only reason people are moved by quigan's death is because quigan gets way more screen time he's closest to being the main character and just think about how much characterization obi one has in episodes two and three in episode two and okay but you've got to like all you're all he's done right now is just make observations it's like obi one's not in the first one as much it's like right okay you gotta like this is not we can't work with this you gotta gotta give me more than that three you find out that he doesn't really like flying that much that's kind of a cute character trait i wish he had traits in this movie the only character with traits in this movie is again jar jar but i thought you said no characters like i don't doesn't have traits i thought he said no character has any traits yeah exactly yeah but except for the examples against my point i'm correct oh well you don't think about it i'm right so yeah while jar jar is really awkward and a fucking stupid addition to the movie he's the only thing in the movie that feels real whenever i watch this movie and what am i what am i supposed to do with this how would you arrive to this movie that feels real quigan did you know i don't like i don't even know how to respond you just what do you even mean by real means didn't feel empty i guess okay yeah that's that's what we're classifying is real now it's so weird it's like he keeps he keeps saying oh these characters who are constantly quipping at every turn or characters that scream and flail about are like worth more than anything just if they can yell hard enough they're worth more to this guy so i'm noticing he shouts this line i seriously wake up from the coma that this movie put me in if he wasn't in the movie i legitimately think the movie would be worse think about it it would just be these dry humans delivering boring dialogue it would be he's arguing that jar jar makes the movie better help me i am a bit confused let's make this more balanced shall we let's add someone who doesn't even like the prequels to a further degree than any of us well to be fair i don't know that's why i don't i think he didn't care too much for them either but they're still better than the sequels most people agree on that easily um yeah talk amongst yourselves i must deal with something once again biabi all right uh yeah this video is terrible whoever liked it is wrong and it's i mean if you ever ask yourself can i be a big youtuber this is proof that anyone can do it this is proof anybody can fucking do it you don't have to make sense you don't have to show examples you don't have to do the work you don't have to be correct you can just say just say words just say words there you go man you don't even have to sound like you care that's right you yes you special viewer probably have better opinions than this guy if any of your opinion if you can show that any of your opinions are informed by actual information or a scene from the film you're you're you're doing better than he is it's true how you been to you uh not bad not much slumming around in quarantine but yeah what are you watching you guys how are you getting by you you watching a lot of tv shows you catching up on anything new game wise or uh video games mostly that's all i really do or have i played anything new recently oh geez that's a depressing thought no i mean new i guess you could also just say new to you like anything that you thought of picking up and finally did other than do maternal not really i installed hyper light drifted the other day and have been meaning to get to that at some point that's cool cool uh shoot i was gonna say something i lost it way to go i'm so i'm so good at this about talking to people talking our um so wait uh where do you live you know generally i am english and english okay um are they are they uh opening up around there a little bit more or are they just kind of keeping staying the course of shutdowns right now starting to creep open as far as i'm aware though i'm very detached from the outside world so it wasn't a big difference no not really got you got you yeah i was about to ask like if there's anything that opened up recently that you just took part in lately that you couldn't before no good job i went to the uh annemarie oyster bar today it's one of my favorite places to eat and they finally opened up today that was great stuff what about you ragas do you get out did you have anything that you couldn't do before that you could recently uh yeah hanging out with uh a lot of friends and stuff we don't go out and we haven't gone out and really done anything because a lot of places are closed and some of my uh some of my peeps are a bit more paranoid than others are about a lot of this stuff ah got you yeah yeah there's a lot of people that still think if you uh if you want to open up you'll just kill old people oh man that's what you like you like to kill people i will say that one thing that really really annoys me that people do is people say like people make fun of people for protesting lock the lockdown like people are concerned that they won't have enough money to like live and do things in i don't think there's anything that's unreasonable about people being super concerned about that people are extremely as they should be skeptical of being told they have to stay in their homes and they can't go outside and they can't do things because the government tells them to it is an extremely reasonable thing to be like whoa is this is this the kind of you know trust we need to be placing in the government and is this the amount of power that we should allow them to have over us it is oh yeah nothing unreasonable about that and there's some people out there like all these stupid fucking conservative redneck idiots who want to go to jobs and have a working functional economy well fucking economy stupid it's just for rich people to get rich i think a lot of people imagine that the economy is just a number it doesn't equate to something that's actually happening that's real and they think that they could just like put it on pause and it'll just be back we could just resume it whenever we want it's just that easy they're like bitch some of us like have need money some people need cash to live lives they have to buy food they have to pay bills they have to pay the rent and the electricity and they have kids to take care of and so when this goes on for too long like obviously they will be concerned and they will say listen i will risk getting the coronavirus i will risk getting this disease that will that is less dangerous than the flu i'm totally ready for that just i need money i need a job well did you guys see the video of mom that let her kids play on a playground in Idaho and the police and they busted her and they didn't even they didn't call the dad or anyone else to come pick up her children they just were hauling her off and so the other moms that were around were like what the hell are you doing you're arresting her for letting her kids play on an empty playground and like all these guys busted it apart and stuff too it just it blows my mind i think it's one of those enter at your own risk kind of things like if you want to go skydiving sign this waiver you might die something bad might happen to you but it enter at your own risk i mean when the police are going out there and saying that protesting is not an essential activity we've arbitrarily decided this you are not allowed to protest against the government like that is something that every single person should be super concerned about like that is that's actually fucked up you should be concerned that the government is saying this that police organizations are saying this yeah and you just want to go out there and catch coronavirus that's one of the reasons why the country had a freaking revolution because that was not allowed that was illegal yeah and you've got these government people they're like oh cool you know this these uh that first amendment was really getting in the way of these big fat gun regulations that i really want to push hey i could arrest them now let's might as well push that shit virginia all the way so don't like it at all it's bad and we've got some of these government types that are really exploiting this right now starting to get scary and whenever they want to protest against it they just start locking them up and a lot of people think that that's just okay it's really frustrating to hear this sort of thing especially when they say oh fuck your rights at least you'll be safe and drawing breath that's all that matters right it's like aren't you the same people that are arrested was born several times they she shouldn't have been given the warning yeah i think it's like warnings like people can't go to an empty beach in sunbathe because they'll spread coronavirus no rags have you seen the the video of the guy paddle boarding there's no one on the beach there's no one in the ocean and there's like three police boats trying to flag him down and arrest him i've seen a lot of weird i've seen some bad shit from police and i'm a pro police guy but they got to be kept on a leash just like every other institution needs to be to some degree like government can't just be allowed to do whatever the hell they please and i think the fact that people are panicking to this degree over coronavirus it just sets up their willingness to let their lives be dictated in this way and it's it's it's stupid that people who show just skepticism about this are really just they're getting insulted they're getting like yo you these fucking idiots who well i think it's just no or concern that they don't have money i think it's two sides not listening to each other because the biggest concern everyone has is the overflow of hospitals so like someone getting corona and being like i need a hospitalism now and it's like wow you just took up a space that so what you didn't necessarily need to if you were looking after yourself better and so when you have like a celebrity being like it's hell being locked up it's just like oh what a dingus as opposed to someone who's like i'm gonna lose my house if i don't continue to work and i can't go outside and everything's unlocked you know like they they're a legitimate concerns and i think there's just yeah like i said two sides interesting elements to all of it and uh i think you're right about the whole certain things can get done in crisis that wants the crisis it's literally the prequels i know it's like well what happens if they don't want to give it what if what if this these people who got this special power now what if they don't want to give it up once the pandemic is officially officially over what if they like holding on to all that power that they've got what if they don't give it up what's doubly weird too is that you've got a so trump goes out and he says you know i'm gonna he's he's put a lot of of the onus on the individual governors of the states which i really like um i like the decentralization of power i like the idea that um you know the federal government isn't as you know strong and a lot of it's up to the states i like that a lot of people are like saying oh trump's an idiot for doing this he's letting individual states decide how that individual state wants to react to the virus and stuff and i'm like this is good it's weird yeah uh this is some frustrating fucking time right here so anyway prequels so anyway back to something definitely also hi feo hello i didn't sign up for this did you uh have you had any thoughts on this video up till now you'd want to share before we kick on with what's in the future if you're gonna attack the prequels again why like this why do you have to be bad at it these films get sucked from people being bad at criticizing it it's like why do you got to make feo defend the prequels come on man i mean this is the thing like a lot of people make the joke there's like oh they're all pre they're all plinket clones rejects you know blah blah and i'm just like i can kind of see it a lot of this comes across as like some of plinkets points but without any is he the reason plinkets videos are long is because he had references i'm not saying he was right about everything you made but he had references it was almost like he was trying to actively convince you of something he didn't just say it and assume that it was correct well he did on some things but for the most part he put in work and he tried to convince you because i'm pretty sure i might be wrong let me let me check how long is the phantom menace plinket video now is he trying to get to all three movies in this one part i feel like we barely scratched the surface of the phantom menace yeah okay one of seven oh my so it's it's over an hour for a plinkets prequel uh phantom menace one so yeah wow how incredibly long i know it's a shame that nobody took heed of that i don't think i'd be able to sit through it honestly in order to fix this oh yeah sorry to catch everybody up we just got done with the argument that if jar jar wasn't in phantom menace he wouldn't have liked it as much that's that's that's the last that's the last argument we just got done with so yeah how about that all right this movie you would need to reformat the entire plot everything is broken most people agree that the biggest problem here is that you can just delete this whole movie from the trilogy and it changes nothing a lot of star wars viewing guides so what i change is nothing is not quite the argument i would use uh yeah it's the time investment for information you're getting to the overall story is minimal if the prequels are all to tell us how palpatine rose to power from a simple senator of a single planet and how anakin turned to vader i would argue that um we could probably combine one and two in some way shape or form or i would rejig all of it um i would refocus a lot of it but the idea that we wipe out phantom menace and it changes nothing i don't know about that yeah it does have his mom in it well obviously that could still be a thing it i agree it's certainly not very important in the grand scheme in terms of what you should watch like if i was gonna say what shouldn't you watch out of one through six it would be this one couldn't you theoretically just watch return of the jedi and be like you know i didn't have to watch the first two in terms of just see what i guess what i'm trying to get at is like you could theoretically start anything from the fair the stories if you watch one then three you might be like okay i don't i'm not following but if you just watch three i mean it's gonna be hard because you don't know everybody but i just don't know this argument's kind of weird you can infer a lot of like relationships and stuff just from watching three or from watching six but of course the whole context is in there yeah and i think he's trying to argue for the whole thing that's like oh the mystery of how they came up would be more enjoyable than to see the answers done poorly i guess he's trying to argue but it also sounds like he's trying to argue that nothing of value ever came out of the prequels at all like technically now it's like no that's ladders not true uh as some people have pointed out in chat you just watch the sequel trailer you don't need to watch the ot it changes nothing in fact the sequels will be better off if you don't watch the ot yeah it's not breaking anything actually recommend that you just don't watch this movie how sad is that this you uh um okay so cosmonaut i'm gonna tell you something it's gonna blow your mind so some people say you shouldn't just don't watch phantom menace watch attack the clones and revenge that's like oh my god how sad we fuck you phantom menace lol do you know what people say about the sequels no it's not don't watch one of them why god why they don't say don't watch one of them they say something else don't fucking any of them they don't exist yeah which is the sadder affair i wonder spinoff movies are equally useless in the grand scheme of things but those movies are fun and a little experience oh oh they're fun so now they have value so the reason you brought this up right is he's he's established fuck phantom menace because if you don't watch it you you don't even yet necessarily need it to follow the prequel story okay so someone might have said in response you don't need solo to understand the ot so i guess we shouldn't watch that and his response to that is but it's fun well good try simple as you know what else was fun terminator three booby two man i don't really mind them they don't really hurt anybody by existing this movie really hurts my feelings by existing it just genuinely bothers me whenever i watch it there's no main character the characters that are in this that's a blink at point and i don't even necessarily agree with it i like that he's he's probably forgotten that's where he's stolen this from um because i think blink at one point asks a couple of people who the main character phantom menace is uh and they can't answer it necessarily the complication comes from a lot of people would automatically assume anakin but he doesn't turn up until i want to say 14 minutes i can't remember exactly um but first the problem with that conversation is first of all you need to establish what what a protagonist is what a main character is defined by and then why we have to have one and you have to tell us uh by lacking a clear one in the phantom menace assuming we agree with that uh what what is a suffering what what is the suffrage of it like what what how does it fall apart as a result is i guess what i'm trying to get to it uh i will admit my head's melted a bit like all the cosmos like his his arguments are so fucking hard to keep track of that like he's just casually said there's no main character and i'm like you you need to tell me what you mean by that you need to prove it and then you need to tell me how that's a bad thing you can't just say there's no main character lol next he doesn't even seem to really argue he just kind of declares things there's no main character because you notice you know oh and i guess people in chat are curious if you asked me who the main character of phantom menace was i'd probably argue was quite gone quite gone he's still he's the one who makes most of the decisions that guide everybody to different places even at the against other influences that are telling him not to the main character of uh game of thrones was uh tony stark and then when he died nobody watched anymore tony stark according to glib apparently lucas lucas said me i'm at ned sorry uh okay ned ned stark don't kill me there is tony stop i prefer that well tony stark being beheaded um but yeah sorry so the main thing i was trying to get out there though is that uh plinkett has reasoning for what he says i can't remember what it is i'd have to rewatch it but all he's done is almost steal the point and use it superficially uh it's a shame that this is where we're at you know like influential critics like plinkett generate plinkett plinkett clones that are just not even anywhere close to to how do i even put this without sounding super fanboyish being influential in film criticism on youtube that's that's probably a pretty level-headed way of putting it whether or not people like plinkett they probably agree is influential it's a pretty sneaky tactic as well because you hear that and you go i have someone say that and whatever reasoning they may have had for it so this person probably has that reasoning as well they're just not stating it because it's already been said yeah and i think that there's a discussion to be had but nope don't mind it just genuinely bothers me whenever i watch it there's no main character the characters that are in this movie don't have any traits or personalities and if you try to break this movie he's oh god didn't he say this earlier he did and he didn't prove it and then he went on to say later that he likes jar jar things because he has traits and then he's repeated now that there are no characters with no traits it's just like jesus christ man how are we like approaching halfway when we haven't even gone to the second film yet be into a beginning middle and end you would have trouble finding out where each part begins nothing in this movie works at all you really wouldn't know them escaping tattooing or them escaping naboo's the first act and then when they return to i would say after the senate hearings that's the end of the second act and then the third act did he did he say there's no clear acts because jesus i i didn't even know that was well like clear like yeah how do you and so that's what i know i think it's actually kind of clear i mean i think it's clear yeah i that seems pretty reasonable to me this one is a really big disappointment and if i was an adult when i watched this movie i don't think i would even like star wars anymore and the worst oh like what the sequels did sequels are ironic love them sequels art is we still have two more movies to go three out of ten i hope it doesn't get any worse than this well that's his analysis of phantom men is everyone yeah that was really garbage i can't believe that this person's like a film critic person i wanted to just just gonna go ahead and remind you guys just gonna put out there best video he's ever made this is the best video he's ever made probably because it's really easy to make because he didn't do any work i feel like he really didn't it felt like this was just a rehash of the plinket review with but not even though he already mentioned a couple of the points from there but he just didn't substantiate any of them but i don't even think he cited that you know what would have been better is if you just said here's my opinion of the prequels go watch the plinket video okay that's something i guess yeah it's better than nothing star wars episode two is basically as bad as the phantom menace i tried pretty hard to figure out which one of these movies is worse and i'm having a really hard time figuring that out right okay but i think if you held a gun up to my head and made me answer i'd probably say that this one is marginally better the phantom menace is bad because it's boring and it doesn't really feel like a real movie but technically not the reasons because you thought it was boring jesus he's still i wasn't bored so what now he still thinks that these are like we do this a lot with efab but i hate it we've covered this so many times for someone you know someone says uh they work it out all with math mathematically what a particular thing is they show the end and then later on like an hour later they reference that that ending conclusion in relation to something else and it's like oh yeah that makes total sense that's great with these videos they don't substantiate criticism they just say this thing is boring this is why and then they show like one thing that's not even supporting it and then later on they'll be like now that we've proven it's boring i can just reference how it's definitively boring regularly it was like no you never proved it you never proved it stop singing you never proved it did he ever do anything anything close to qualifying what he means by doesn't feel like a real movie no because people do no earlier he said but i try to qualify earlier he said none of the characters act like real people or he doesn't believe any of them are real i think yeah i would say about 20 percent of his analysis on you know his points were backed up by any actual examples and a lot of them are plinket based examples yeah 20 percent plinket based examples 20 percent that's because the thing though each of his examples was already made by plinket which is why i keep saying oh nice plinket review all right well as somebody who has never seen plinket reviews or i don't even know who that is uh it just seemed like really yeah it's okay it's okay she's not jay no no no no it's it's not it was like oh this is offensive just figured like offensive start like when it comes to the star wars fans i figured they know exactly about the uh the the plinket reviews and they're like actually sick and tired of hearing them referenced i keep hearing them reference uh i know it has something to do with red letter media and every time i've attempted to watch their videos i'm just bored out of my well i love their videos they're like my favorite youtubers youtube groups but this thing board is fine it's totally fine we're not high top where we tell you you're wrong for that we're not cosmo we go well you found it bored that that means it's a bad channel you know like the boring is such the peak of our subjective feelings tizems like i i've just said you're like oh my god it's just i i've heard that they're a lot different now than they were when they were you know an up and clean channel i feel like yeah boring you just have to qualify it very carefully but that's the interesting part yeah most people don't care about actually therefore yeah like most people don't care if you found something boring or not they're curious what you got bored by and you can probably explain it like you can just explain something funny and i don't they do not captivate my i can i can imagine a lot of reasons why someone might find rlm boring that's totally fine same for phantom menace by the way you can actually you can actually qualify this you can be like scenes run on too long for me without uh you know high-paced action in them and i don't i'm not invested in these characters or uh i don't understand the conflict and so i'm bored by it because i don't know what's at stake these are things that are just like okay but unfortunately a lot of the answers to these things are just going to be like well i mean it seems like you may may have misunderstood some stuff then or you know you can actually break down scenes be like there's action here here here here it's actually well paced or something like that by some weird metric but just like it's boring it's just like okay which by the way is not criticism of you describing rlm is boring that's totally fine oh no it's fine i know a lot of people like i i just don't spend a lot of time or before i did the youtube's i didn't spend any youtube's unless the thing was broken i need to figure out if you were to make a video called every youtube reviewer reviewed part two mr blinket and all you said was he was boring then yeah i would be critical of you oh i would actually and your thumbnail says why he sucks oh no i don't make videos on other youtubers no i know it's it's it's all about uh contextualizing it's just the point i'm actually overall trying to make is this video sucks i don't know if i don't know if that came through i think it did the point i was trying to make is somebody that hasn't seen the plinkett reviews or knows who plinkett is uh just watching this it just seems like he has a lot of jumbled thoughts and then trying to put it together doesn't make a lot of sense and then he never clarifies the points that he's trying to make and he can completely he says one thing like the whole thing oh none of these characters have any depth and then oh but i like jar jar he was fleshed out he made sense but two minutes ago he said oh no one in this story is fleshed out it's like do you not watch your video all the way through before you post it and wouldn't anyone you mean all of it this is his best video wouldn't you notice oh i i contradicted myself wouldn't you go back and edit that before you made this video live i don't know to give him the most benefit of the doubt possible i think maybe he was thinking people wouldn't take like they would consider that hyperbole in perhaps the way he meant it to be but that's very generous wait what was hyperbole sorry like him saying nobody has any character traits like i don't know he said it like three times it's just it's awkward and i don't know yeah once you figure out the story it is sort of comprehensible then you compare this to attack of the clones where structurally it feels like more of a real movie the characters have traits there's a few cute interactions but nothing the characters do make any sense and the story nothing they do make any sense hold on a second why did he flash up the word make he flashed up the makes because he said make he said nothing they do make any sense he sounds like a caveman but if you put makes it okay but okay it no makes it audio he popped it up in unfiltered text and then none of the other words did it and he wasn't labeling his wording look he made a mistake when recording he couldn't be asked to re-record that one line so instead he threw a subtitle on look it's fine it's fucking fine well now i thought he said i thought i heard him say make and also use the word make on screen i don't know i might have misheard my bad you're a bad person is absolute nonsense but for what it's worth this movie is way more entertaining to watch because it is just a hot mess it's probably the worst your argumentation is fucking flooring me it's probably better than the phantom menace but it's uh also more entertaining because it's more nonsense you're like yeah all right okay plus in the entire star war i'm really hoping he makes some points he can actually respond to instead of just random observations in a broad sense that usually appeal to emotion saga to the point where i could spend this whole review just explaining the story and you would fully understand what i mean how about you try that just out of curiosity want to see how that would go give it a shot let's see how it goes so that's exactly what we're gonna do so the movie starts off and tells us this there is unrest in the galactic senate several thousand solar systems have declared their intentions to leave the republic okay he did it again why is it i think that's interesting this is a setup for a potential civil war i don't know why i don't know why this is considered boring the republic i made a groaning sound nope he made a groaning sound shut up the galactic republic is splintering this is incredibly serious we're on the edge of a galactic civil war like why is that boring okay but joking aside this is supposed to be the main driving force for the plot these separatists don't want to be part of the republic but why not well i hope you are prepared to die with that question in your mind because this movie is not interested in telling us the senate because the senate is we we learned last uh last movie that the senate really doesn't do a good job at making things work yeah the the queen amadala says that she's lost faith in the senate's ability to function the senate's bloated and sprawling so people don't want they don't want it anymore so if the government doesn't work yeah people would want to leave that governing body so this is kind of how i think i would do it with them i'd be like i don't understand why what does it mean that they're leaving the republic and they'd be like what do you mean they're like so would you say it's it's concluded from that statement alone that they don't believe in the republic like yes you're like all right i mean i don't know that we need the details on uh what parts of the republic they don't like and do like or what uh uh policies they think are restrictive or how much they don't think the the republic gets problem solved fast enough or what someone else is offering as a union versus the republic i don't know the uh it wouldn't be made better with some of this perhaps um but i don't know that we need it planet separating from the republic i i feel like that's probably uh considering this thousands i think there's thousands in the republic i remember um i feel like there's a good chance that they probably have people succeeding from the republic and joining it semi-regularly but the idea that you have like us many of them doing it at once is very concerning because if you split the republic in half uh then we start to wonder who's in control of most of the space you know and that's what's going to cause war so yeah i don't know like uh do we need to know why the techno union left the republic but also why the trade federation specifically did but also why the really other factions we need to know all of the thousands this is what i mean i'm like i don't even know why i want this information i don't know that i need it maybe don't read one of the books or something all right so the rest of the crawl tells us that the jedi are overwhelmed by the separatists but overwhelmed how the separatists aren't hurting anybody there aren't any battle droid attacks at this point the first thing the jedi say in there wasn't a war last time and jedi had to be sent to do missions so the idea is the jedi are sent to solve disputes i think that's actually an opening crawl the first one right and if you've got in the first episode oh yeah we literally saw it uh but i was gonna say so the idea if we've got is it safe to say thousands of planets leaving is that in the title crawl i can't remember well yeah if there's thousands of solar system there's at least one oh sorry that's what i mean basically thousands of systems what i'm trying to highlight is that that would mean you get one thing to settle per system right theoretically how many jedi are there like i don't think that they can settle all of this i don't the problem is with the trade federation fucking up fucking with naboo like okay send some jedi to solve it hopefully we can get that done and the republic can operate as per usual and if you go okay we've got another five examples of this happening right now across five different planets like oh shit send me to windows and send guy who is weird looking send big head man send and eventually it'd be like we got no one to send we're overwhelmed with trying to settle disputes and everybody's on the cusp of war at least that's the impression i got from attack of the clones and then the senate goes to you but what about the other thousand disputes yeah and it's like fucking the jedi can't do this there's just not enough numbers well it's also not all jedi are the best diplomats you know some are there some are there so some of them don't even want to do that probably go do that kind of makes me wonder why this is being left up to the jedi but yeah it's apparently okay to accept that they're they must have been pretty good at it to have given the senate a level of trust to that degree i guess i don't know completely supplanted any like formal diplomacy on behalf of the senate itself rather than that is the movie logic or can we bring you out as well we got us we gotta stick with the movies if he's gonna stick with the movies yeah extra stuff is uh don't use book reference one well but that was this is what i mean he's so fucking confusing because he brought that up while saying you shouldn't be using bonus stuff so it's just like a okay in this video specifically he's not referenced anything outside of the movies so we'll just go with that well if he references you then i'm gonna hold that you don't have to stoop to his level it's not stooping to his level if he's gonna use that you know to he's a big stupor i don't want no stupid validate his points i'll you know use the same eulogic to i don't know gotta do it is that duke and the separatists aren't violent and they just have different political leanings so why are the jedi overwhelmed so i i guess i'll i'll be the one to do it you can be overwhelmed in uh in an office job despite there no not being war no we needed to see all of those jedi with sweaty robes panting tired like oh i can't believe it oh my goodness so well did work today they're like oh my god you really died like no but there's a droid waiting for them to just stacks upon stacks of paperwork say hey so here's the paperwork from the such and such system leaving gotta you know you know like how you come home from your job and your your your family's there and you're like oh man guys i was absolutely overwhelmed at work today it was crazy it was a madhouse in there oh they're like yeah but you look fine now you don't seem to be in a hurry now i've just uh i've just someone been highlighted uh he wants to know the ins and outs of why different systems are leaving the republic while simultaneously advocating that simpler star wars is better and he said it but he'd say it would be boring if we knew yeah so he's born by two sentences in the title crawl i was gonna say he seems like got a bit of uh what is it well i guess i'll be adhd right attention attention deficit disorder add yeah i'm trying to see why he favors the sequels now yeah those films like he just didn't fucking especially link especially rise the skywalk command that film will satisfy the shit out of somebody who's just like i need action boom boom boom screaming yelling look how much they're yelling they fly now like should there have been i think is he saying there should have been more in the fan of menace of like just scenes of people in the senate saying senate bad um yeah i guess something but also less of that because it's really boring but also characters explaining how they feel to us more all right nice why do we need to create an army what do you mean by civil unrest well i hope why do we need to create an army let me tell you about this little droids that are getting horrible now you know what nabu didn't have it didn't have an army you literally got invaded in the last episode i don't know what else what i why do you need an army thousands of systems want to leave like that he says what do you mean by civil unrest at this point i'm like um so okay what are you looking for like we need to know how they are disagreeing with each other in a civil way possibly to do with policy again i'm like why is this not enough for you it's just like does he not study history at all like when let's go study the american civil war and everything that led up to that you don't think that was stressful for all the people that were involved before the war even started it's like when war is building up and shits going down i don't i don't understand it doesn't take much yeah i just i just feel like he's being very uh very mean to the prequels right now it's like what does that mean what does that mean what is that we're just like chill out a lot of these things you wouldn't want the answers to because you think it's boring yeah exactly star wars entirely is completely stupid so who cares prepared to die with these questions in your head because this movie has no interest in telling you why any of these things are happening but whatever that shit doesn't matter we just need padme in the city so she can get blown up so in this movie pal what that was seemed like a non-second she's a senator why would she not be where the senate is i'm so confused by what is confusing to you i'm gonna have to like check the script she says what doesn't she in that scene why she's back yeah it does doesn't it doesn't take me opening freaking crawl she's been asked to come back to try and like help with the shit in the senate right is that it yeah let me let me check the title crawl yeah i feel like that's one of the last paragraphs is that padme is now a senator and she's on her way back or to she's back for a vote senator oh yeah she's back for the fucking vote about the army she's back for the army vote yeah it's returning to the tactics how is that not like creating an army of the republic to assist the overwhelm Jedi she's one of the biggest proponents against the formation of the army for the senate right that's like her position yep yep how is that like he's saying like it's arbitrary that's holding she would have voted against it palpatine manipulates jar jar into voting for it yeah and he gets her out of the city by trying to get her killed and forcing her to go back to naboo where it's safe and he also gets to put Anakin next to her which part of his goal like this i mean like palpatine's a smart dude he knows what's up he's yeah he's not an idiot he has a plan he does the plan this overarching idea of what he's doing it makes a lot of sense yep these are not the problems with the pre-executives have a million problems it ain't this prepared to die with these questions in your head because this movie has no interest in telling you why any of these things are happening literally that doesn't matter we just need understand why literally he says it doesn't matter if you don't understand it we just needed to be blown up in the opening and i'm like wow so first of all if you did understand what was happening you know exactly why she was blown up and why she's here like you you simultaneously advocate that there's nothing in terms of like details or explanations for anything and then you're like she just blows up for some reason like yeah i however be blown up for whatever reason if only i would have read the title crawl maybe there was information why am i a pre-executive the title crawl doesn't matter didn't you hear the groan it's boring uh title crawl it had politics in it boo stinky boo politics boo boredom stinky i want reasons but the reasons are boring there's not even that you mean more jar jar jar jar jar jar jar jar was stilly he he spoke like he was young he was still he made things remain the city so aside from jar jar what what does he like what what is a movie that he thinks is close to anything i think with this argumentation i have no idea what he was gonna say it could be anything you he probably likes all kinds of random things that these are so phenomenally bad but the sequels are good like what is his standard like what that seems so impossible yeah how can you walk away with the sequels being good and the prequels being bad because the don't you remember when you paying attention he says if a film makes him feel empty it's bad if it doesn't it's good idiot i see right god it's that easy follow the cinematic universe that is cosmopolitan you got some jobs it's that simple she can get blown up so easy this easy shit man in this movie palpatine is trying to kill padme but why well oh jesus christ she wants to vote against okay so padme wants to vote against him once right jar jar he can manipulate she needs pad padme would vote against him padme doesn't want the thing that he wants he needs her gone this is really simple padme served her purpose she got him on the to be the chancellor now she's going against him she's also very popular and she's very vocal and a lot of people listen to her and respect her and she is undermining everything that he is trying to accomplish he needs her out of the picture and once once they get her to naboo the assassination attempt stops he knows exactly where she is he doesn't send assassins there because he's like all right she's not here it's fine you know i'm just waiting for like why do characters wear clothes why do why does gravity exist in this world feel like well why do characters wear clothes this right i'm just about this point like come on we keep having to explain everything all right so here's my question right um if palpatine needed to have padme and her relationship with anakin continues so that he could get anakin to the dark side would it not make sense for her to keep padme alive well i mean if the goal for him is to prevent her from blocking his intentions to start up the army her being dead or her being away are both perfectly uh good goals like those two work out perfectly well so he needs her to be alive to manipulate anakin well i'm suggesting that that's a bonus uh if she doesn't get killed well she would have never gotten killed because he knows every plan every step of the way he knew she wasn't going to be the one that was on the main ship he knew she was gonna that was going to be a decoy because he's the chancellor and he's from naboo i don't know i don't know about that he had it specifically at huh i don't know about that because that the implication there then is that he didn't know that zam was going to be able to kill her or not when sam could have done all kinds of things to kill her in fact they come close to killing it with the the bugs like anakin and no one would yeah the bug thing was the big thing i would i i don't know that palpatine knew for a fact that she was never going to be killed by those assassins i think he was gambling on the to test anakin's strength and to see if anakin would be able to sense that kind of threat to padme i would just say he's opportunistic and he just uh he banked on being like not only can i get rid of her but i can push her and anakin together a lot of what he does in the prequels is capitalizing on just opportunities yeah primary because if you remember he's like we'll watch your career with great interest i think that his primary goal was power secondary goal certainly was anakin because uh we would we would all rewrite palpatine's out for himself first like yeah yeah right sure let's check it's because padme is here to vote against creating a military force for the republic and i guess palpatine doesn't really want that because he has his own army and he wants to control it but the assassination attempts just stop about a third of the way through the movie so wait she's hiding on the boo then she moves to tatooine without the how would the assassins know it's it's literally what anakin wants to do like what do you mean stop also there'll be no reason to kill her anymore because she can't even vote yeah oh she's still alive i guess but okay she's over here and she's been replaced by a complete dull on the senate so still there's no yeah this remain in fact it makes more sense to keep her alive at this point surely also did he just answer his own question did he he's like uh palpatine wants to kill her why and then he gives a reason for why oh oh so you do know the answer let's let's roll it back well it's because padme oh yeah he did just add why did he yeah yeah that's okay he's here to vote against creating a military force for the republic and i guess palpatine doesn't really want that because he has his own army and he wants to control it but the assassination attempts just stop about a third of the way through the movie as soon as she's not in the senate she's no longer a threat that argument he just made did not happen yet that's not until the end of the movie oh that's a problem palpatine already had an army that's at the very end well with the clone i guess he's referring to the fact that the clones are being they exist at that point you could argue that he's just i'm willing to accept that he's just poorly said what he wanted to say which was that palpatine wants to officialize the clones as a senate's army which yeah obviously but i just i still think it's funny that there's just so many ways you can actually argue that palpatine wouldn't definitively want her dead while she's at naboo there's just no she's got a representative that he's going to manipulate there's no reason to kill her anymore he doesn't have anything to gain from it anymore so what about them i guess it's so that anakin and her can hang out more but then he still has padme thrown into an arena to be eaten by pokémon well i mean anakin her and obi wanna roll in there in fact it's all of the jedi are about to be fucking exterminated by count dooku if not for the the clones to arrive which is probably part of what has no sane in any of that he's not i was gonna say he's not an old jedi are gone worst case scenario and it goes around to corrupt yeah there's this is a win-win and also he can use the war to further his desire for more power because this is the thing about palpatine a lot of what he does you could describe the prequels as win-wins he there's a lot of scenarios he sets up where as long as well whatever happens he'll be able to come out on top well because if she dies he knows anakin is gonna lose his shit you know he gets anakin if she doesn't die in the arena then well that's but it's like it's a win for him on the dark side not as palpatine but as city is also i don't know i don't know how relevant this is because of holograms and stuff but uh dooku's definitely aiming to kill padme to please the trade federation i don't even know that palpatine's involved in that i mean he tries to get obi one to join he says by the way there's a sith control in the senate yo good old dooku so that's the plan when he says by gone would have seen reason quigan might have really entertained the idea quite on his i would fucking kill to have a scene with liam nissan christoph lee arguing about whether or not the galactic republic is corrupt and should be left that'd be fucking interesting wouldn't it nerd but yes it would that would have been boring then we'll see give me something consistent do you want her dead or not oh don't worry bro you didn't pay attention oh well he said it's inconsistent we're done bro it's all a part of palpatine's plan can i just say that i fucking hate this way of writing oh let's make it's our villain can predict the future so then when no no why does he need to be able to predict the future that's what would he predict the future what about this requires like that kind of foresight it's very basic it's pretty much established he creates scenarios or you you push his people into scenarios where whatever happens as a result he can capitalize his ultimate goal do you remember fucking previously he described his ultimate goal of taking over the galaxy is simple minded this is like okay thinking too small but now he's like he's fucking he's so small all of this he must be able to see into the future it's like yeah what a simple minded ability i don't know man like so lame anything happens that contradicts information we're given we can just say oh you haven't highlighted a contradiction yet so you can't make that claim unsustainable changes doesn't mean it's contradictory to attack the fucking quagon prime light saber isn't always active and sometimes it is it's a contradiction sometimes characters are angry and sometimes they're not contradictory characters reacting to the situations around them if that reaction isn't consistent always the same thing then it's a contradiction yeah kind of weird how on one scene they're on the boob and on the next on tattooing yeah contradiction there's a lot of contradictions actually when you think about it yeah we could all be really successful youtubers now yay it's easy we did it it's fine he knew it was gonna happen see oh he killed the jedi and took over the galaxy oh my god the voice he's using doesn't have vocal fry oh my goodness gracious could you keep doing that please let's do it again look it's our villain can predict the future so then when anything happens that contradicts information we're given we can just say oh it's fine he knew it was going to happen see oh he killed the jedi and took over the galaxy all according to plan i love it use that voice that's literally better than the voice you've been using yeah please use this please use this new voice and could you tell judge Joseph Anderson to do the same that'd be sweet no just venison just needs to be electrocuted while he's doing it just to wake him up just imagine that he just needs to smile and care a little just once you know but if you line it up piece by piece it's the biggest fucking joke in the whole series so you should be pretty easy to prove right yeah keep going do you remember what he said he's gonna he would be so funny if he just laid out the plaques is so bad he like highlighted at one point pad may clearly try is is almost assassinated and then she isn't at another point and then she is at another point films broken it's like okay crime me gullis and secondary gullis and the norio here is palpatine's entire timeline okay first he supports the trade federation so he can control space trade however the jedi shut down the federation so he starts a new organization of planets that don't like the republic at the same time he's i feel like we don't know if he needed to start that i feel he's just using a naturally occurring trade federation i feel like he skipped over the actual point of phantom anus not that he was using the trade federation to control trade and then he couldn't so he decided to make separatists like that's not at all what i think happened in phantom anus i can use this dispute to show fuck the centers yeah the the goal in phantom anus it didn't fucking nothing matters about the trade federation they don't they're not fucking relevant the whole point is using anything he can they get a vote of no confidence and to shove himself into the chancellor role the idea that cosmonaut would walk up to palpatine at the end of phantom anus be like you lost the trade federation palpatine would be like yeah what yeah well i was gonna say this film establishes that they're still in power um despite everything which i think is something that they could possibly have added a few more throwaway lines to is a commercial business that's that's a and it's just run by the i don't think he understands that and even even in this movie they make a comment about how newt gunray is still the leader yeah after and after what happened on naboo which that's what i mean like even his own assessment of events the trade federation is still in power and still exists so what do you mean and palpatine is still influential over them clearly he's building a secret army so now he has two armies an army of clones and an army of robots oh but padme is going to make things difficult so he has to kill her but he messes up and doesn't kill her but that's okay he actually wants anakin to get close to her and fall in love we've already been over this but if you keep just assessing everything in this weird view then yeah i guess things look stupider than they actually are and how can you not do this to the sequels by the way the sequels can't make sense their plot lines are insane yeah the sequels are nonsense just fascinating to me it's like they didn't it it looks like a but it really does play out like a bunch of movies where they legit didn't have a plan and we know they didn't have a plan but the movies are it's obvious that they didn't have a plan you can feel the lack of plan in each film's success why does the protagonist raise skywalker do anything in the sequel trilogy why does she ever commit to doing anything it's like because it's the right thing to do by gum very compelling yep but then he tries to have her killed anyway right after that you said this already you've repeated yourself wrongly like what you you're not adding anything to your video they accuse me of repeating myself oh fuck type they do it more than i do it really lucky that he's pokemon ater because then anakin would just be a good guy oh yes anakin would still be a good guy after slaughtering all of the children in this movie the fuck yeah he's a great state of mind after that there's no way palpatine could you know start to get close to him after that and you know work with that in any way that's no anakin what you did wasn't wrong from a certain point of view yeah you just move those children were really cudd's the tusk and raiders really are rather nasty bunch they're really not people they're really not people forever and your plan wouldn't work so anyway doesn't matter padme doesn't matter he unveils both armies at the same time and he makes them fight each other secretly and over the next few years he orchestrated make some fight each other secretly i think that he means that palpatine was the secret right part of that not that they were orchestrating it secretly okay yeah it's an entire war between two armies that he secretly funded so that people will democratically vote for him to be king of space so that he can end the war that he started with his just the war as a means to an end that's the whole point he's highlighting this like it all makes no sense and i'm like what are you missing like emergency powers in wartime yeah that's why it's like it's a very very real thing enormous precedent armies and then his king of space he kills all the jedi and gets rid of both armies and then he rules for like 20 years and then he can throw them in a hole and he dies idiot he's gonna stop him then to understand where the problem is he's it's like he gets to be the king of space army one is gone army two is completely subservient to him now what i think he's the king of space yeah it seems seems like it all fucking was a great idea there are so many holes in that plan you want to three name three name three i don't even have time to break it all down oh yeah i would rather he doesn't have time what's stopping him from having that kind of time i would rather seriously repeat over and over again that it has problems instead of telling you what those problems are like okay like what was the point of this load a very long time my friend this is part two of his every star wars movie reviewed you have enough time to review every star wars movie but not explaining the glaring supposed plot holes of this aspect of episode two what is more important this is no fucking time lads no fucking time why not there's no time when this is the critique equivalent of a hamster running in a wheel it's like why not just make each one apart you can get all the time you want an important part of this video to explain the massive plot holes about palpatine's plan and the creation of the army and you don't have time for it you've got 45 minutes to talk about other stupid bullshit didn't he specifically say he was going to run through the plot that's something he said he would do what was that what he said that was he referring to the 10 seconds he just did it's like oh boy i'm flawed this is very popular youtuber this is his best video help don't have time to go over it right now take an entire video whoa guys you said it would take an entire video no this video is why three are bad not why one is bad people saying gadelp all right what should i gadelp specifically the uh didn't wait didn't we he said we don't have time to go over it we already did that just say we're reviewing the gay reviewing the movie in this review would take too much time yeah i will definitely mention uh but it would take its own entire video if you imagine an a video specifically for one movie crazy just crazy couldn't take it myself should we be better for the story if you told me he couldn't predict the fucking future because this plan reads like it's made by someone who can't no palpatine can predict the future one of his powers well no he he's gonna like a fucking guess it influencing and pushing around things but the film's never explicit that he can literally like predict the future that's one of his force powers that he can where does it say that uh in the og i have foreseen it i have foreseen it but he's wrong well yeah well that that's just implying that's that's one of his things the future is always changing you can see the future wrong i have that power palpatine's deep in this immodal logic you can all see possible world futures oh me too always in motion the future is that's what yoda says you can see one aspect of what one future could be but it's not a power it's also it's not reliable powers the jedi and the sith that that as being able to see a possible future out of all the alternatives that's not a power well we can't do it that only i can't i can see many possibilities for how this stream ends which one is gonna happen i don't fucking know but i can see many possibilities you're assuming that that's what's gonna happen it's not having like a i'm not i'm not assuming in about an hour we will go over super chats think of all the possibilities so it might be the one i want i'm willing like the idea that they have like a forced sort of meditation they can sort of see you know pieces of dialogue characters committing to certain actions in different ways in certain places like i can believe that but it's not going to be clear enough to be able to be like this will happen at this time on this day it never happens but what i'm what i'm trying to advocate for is that cosmonaut is saying he must be able to see the future to be able to commit to these actions when i'm like whatever future he can see wouldn't be able to get him guarantees of anything he does just fine without like even if he can't see the future i think his plan's perfectly robust yeah anything if anything it makes him more kind of intimidating that he can't see the future he's just really smart and clever yeah i agree with that like he's just that good kind of cheapens his cunning if he could see the future yeah like it's not the most fair example ever but imagine if frank underwood and house of cards could just see the future and bits and pieces yeah i feel like as a device for storytelling it's not like i would rather just advocate that he made a lot of informed choices and he relied on his knowledge of how people behave um i'm not like i said i'm not against like intuition uh heightened to a certain level with jedi and sith that they can like detect certain things and have certain influence but i'm not agreeing with cosmonaut that he can like it's you know look into the future like it you know fucking program or some mirror you know i mean it's not that uh not that amazing because that is one of the traits of jedi and sis well he's trying to use it as a criticism anyway see things before they happen that's what quagon even says in episode one even if they don't happen yeah the future is always in motion just like yoda says that's not very useful then no that's just something that they do sometimes it helps them okay if anakin would have never seen padme dying do you think he would have still acted the way he was acting and revented the sith probably not to him useful to the plot but not to him exactly so sometimes it's a disadvantage to see the possible future that's why yoda was trying to tell him the future is always in motion don't you know invest all of your time and energy on this future that could possibly not happen this is a really shitty power well there's a lot of things in the force that you know may not be some would say is unnatural after thousands of years and all the failed things that happen i'd be like yoda maybe maybe relax maybe we shouldn't be putting all of our confidence in these uh these potential future visions because they seem to be really sketchy um a secular humanist i will become so anyway obi one and anakin go to protect padme and i love how the first person to talk in this scene is jar jar i also love how he literally steps looks at the camera and smiles as if to say that's right fuckers i'm not going anywhere i'd also like to point out that while we now have more scenes of characters actually having on the camera conversations corner yeah all awful because they're written in the most unnatural way for the most part this movie has some pretty good actors and they have no way to make this awful dialogue sound natural i don't know why i keep dreaming about it i think you want to fuck her anakin dream i'd much rather dream about padme what the fuck oh oh i meant yes i don't mean you want to fuck her i thought you were talking about padme don't you fuck very socially awkward and again i don't know maybe you do want to fuck me i don't know i kind of got to agree like when it when he starts talking about padme it gets pretty bad pretty awful uh i don't like sand so padme the woman who just had an assassination attempt less than a day ago sleeps in her room alone with giant windows with the blinds open so obviously under these circumstances she's basically begging to be assassinated and the following scene is probably the funniest shit in the whole movie they even explained in the damn movie that it was a setup that she was willing to be used as bait to catch the assassin and obi-wan gives anakin ship for that and then that's when they allows it to happen what if the assassin didn't have a shit assassination yeah what if the what if the droid had a blaster it would have been over it wasn't just weird worm nonsense because the robot showing up and what triggered the vision it was the centipedes on her so what if he used that comey what if he used that comey no saber dart with uh on the droid and the droid just like just stuck her in the neck with it and is like oh you're f*** now well that's why obi-wan was like what are you doing but he does he allows it to happen he doesn't stop it he's he pays yeah he he says this is a good idea we should do that but then he allows it to happen he doesn't actually stop it he allows this plan to continue and she almost got centipeded oh that's when anakin went all creepy and he's just like i can sense everything except for the robot opening up the window no the sensors only sense intent and robots don't have intent there you go yeah centipedes do though droid sends in their fears man yeah look at them they got some desert centipedes man they all they're those are look at that percentage no one's no one's got some f***ing baggage bugs to kill padme but our heroes catch it right in the nick of time and then obi-wan f***ing jumps out the window what is his plan what's his end game here and why is he the one who jumped out the window anakin just got done talking about how much he loves padme and how he's obsessed with her so i'd almost accept this if anakin was the one who jumped out the window isn't he supposed to be the brash headstrong apprentice who acts without thinking but then the worst part is that later obi-wan gets mad at anakin for doing the same thing he has no right to get upset when anakin jumps out of the f***ing car he's like oh my apprentice is so headstrong and stupid and he acts without thinking bro two minutes ago you jumped out the window to grab a tiny robot you are lucky to be alive patience use the force yeah all right well i i can agree with him there oh my god so far so good now yeah so far so good i agree i think we're still in cool mans plankit territory though yeah we kind of are this what's a plankit point already but it's like it's just it this should be a supplementary point that is added up with a bunch of other points is like this but we're looking at this as if it's oh my god i can't he actually sort of made a criticism about the movie that's wow um yeah yeah and he's used exam examples and then some actual evidence to back them up and everything hey pretty good pretty good at this point i i was i was just busy for a second but uh as for the i side with rags on the assassin thing i think it makes sense that they wanted to use her as bait but they she could have been killed very easily by the looks of things so earlier he was arguing that's like well the thing is he was arguing like why would she do that that's so stupid it's like um like oh sleeping in there because they asked her to and be bait exactly but she was acting as though she did that without knowing that this is a problem yeah yeah the criticism i guess would be like guys you were fucking reckless doing that um but i guess that's yeah that's what that was pad may really wants to find out who's trying to kill her and anakin is going along with it i suppose but it is it's just dodgy um because they've got a you know a shield or force field or whatever around her room the thing breaks it open and it's like damn you'd think that could either be detected or um someone with eyeballs could have noticed or the little set off anakin's you know senses or whatever you'd think that would be enough but the fact that it can it put its little snout in there it's like wow if that thing could like aim and shoot yeah fuck she'd be dead i would think the moment that that shield took any damage giving it she's like oh don't worry r2's in here really yeah he's turned off hey man he turns on periodically every minute or so i don't fucking know is there any assassins now by the way i want to i want to specify that this is a plinket point the um the brashness of obi one i don't think it makes no sense that uh anakin would run to padme's bedside after she was close to being killed and be like you okay okay as opposed to jumping through the window i think it makes sense he does that obi one being like nah we're supposed to just protect her sees this opportunity of being like that thing is trying to kill it i'm gonna grab it i think that he's right out the window yeah i think he's right to be like i would be like so obi one you're gonna jump out the window and grab it what happens then it's a bit risky there obi one i don't know what um what what you hope to happen i guess you're just hoping this droid returns to its master without being concerned that you're fucking grabbing it and yeah couldn't couldn't you just force grab it and keep it from running away um pulls it back in well i don't know that that was his goal maybe like i don't know if he was just hoping to go back to its you know owner with it which is a very odd thing for an assassin droid to do oh yeah i think that i don't know why it's not programmed that the second it's compromised in any way shape or form it fucking self-destructs and it doesn't even have a construct if it just turned off obi one's dead if it turned off obi one's dead or yeah i'll say there's a chance obi one could save himself using the force or whatever but still um but yeah i don't i don't believe for a second that it's out of character if obi want to be brash he's he's a bit of a he's a bit reckless in all of the movies he's in not just the prequels um the fact that he fucking decides on the spot i'm gonna let vader kill me because it's gonna fucking make luke hate you lol it's like oh my god obi one he's sort of a bitch because uh this is this way i mean i like the recontextualization that he's like from a certain point of view it's like obi one you cheeky little shit you didn't tell him that his dad because you wanted him to kill him because obviously obi one fucking kind of thinks that addigan is a lost cause i think he has a lot of reason to think that either way uh obi one being like fucking addigan being reckless it is kind of funny it's like when you like doing worse shit just seconds ago if you're gonna call obi one being brash to anakin being the more passive one a problem then you know you're gonna need to bring me some dialogue with obi one specifically preaching patience and all that and he did he did just in the off yeah just now right in right in the in the meeting room of the office yeah i don't know if he's highlighted this but this is this is an issue as well he says uh she went in there to hide not to run it's a very strange other than he sensed her mindset he sensed that her goal was to hide in there not to run out of there which seems odd to me but all right um and he's like yeah chill out calm down it's like i don't know man like if if if addigan continued to spread it after he might be able to spot her easier but uh yeah i don't know obi one knew how it was gonna work out so yeah i don't know i think there's that says to me like just educated guess which i wonder how he reached that conclusion but get our education uh but it is like i don't believe that he generated this point i believe he stole it from plinkett the uh there too because a lot of people never qualify the part where you say they're both brash like okay this is like that's a problem now you're like oh and then they go it should be the one of them is not and that person who is not should be obi one you're like oh is it is that how that should work okay why does it go to be this way though yeah i don't know so anyway they catch the assassin and they find out that she is a shape shifter now this is just screenwriting 101 but why is she a shape shifter what does this actually she is uh she's a assassin yeah why being a shape shifter assassin is incredibly useful in fact my criticism would be why the fuck didn't she shape shift in the in the club yeah that's the thing this sets up the thing of why make her a shape shifter if she never uses her shape shifting um like why write her to be one i would agree with that but we can infer that she perhaps would have used her shape shifting to get a bomb onto padme's ship maybe i think there's reason to assume that that's why she was chosen for the job and i think that it's reasonable to assume again that uh who's going to want to be an assassin it's like well i think shape shift doesn't probably find that that's a useful like how like mandaloreans will often end up being bounty hunters because they're just fucking good warriors i guess allegedly yeah that's hence my their clothes are the same she can't shift them take your fucking clothes off i don't know i don't know i just i'm sitting here thinking like you've got this amazing power and you're like well i'm wearing my purple shirt today so it's not happening i ain't leaving behind these great threads yeah i'm gonna pay for those yeah what's uh what it's cool someone just references it in uh in chat if you play styles bounty hunter you actually get to see uh how jango met her and how they work together and on a lot of different jobs jango that's how i know her name is zam wazel zam wessel on chrome of her's panel zam wessel here please bring to the plot of this story does she at any point shape shift in this movie to affect the story all i would say is that i assume she did it to get the bomb on padme's ship any reasonably infer one usage of it yeah and i think that it's fair that uh she would have a proclivity toward assassination as a career when she's in a shape shifter gives you a little bit of like why did this person want to do that and it's like i don't know she probably has the a skill set that's useful for it for example she's a shape shifter she doesn't she certainly doesn't have to be a shape shifter but it's not hurting anything that she well yeah i guess that's what this all comes back to it's just weird if we couldn't answer this question i don't see why we have to why does it why does she have to be justified as a shape shifter i don't see what the problem is necessary and an information why do we need to care about why she's a shape shifter well zam wessel does enough stupid shit in this movie to where like you don't have to worry about her being a shape shifter you don't bring up the fact that she shot the droid and not obi won why she has a droid program to return there are things to criticize why does she try to ambush these two jedi in the bar instead of just fucking leaving i it's just i i don't get it she is an idiot here she's done you got super she got the job just because she's a shape shifter like they had no idea about her skill set that's my head canon now they didn't realize she was terrible at her job she was an actual diversity higher that we need more change in the guild well though she turns up and then she's like what do you need they're like we need a black uh i don't know dwarf and she's like i can do that i can be a black dwarf yeah the shape shifter can get the assassination contract done and then she's sort of like in the other room nervously putting the weird centipedes into the robot like oh they thought i was gonna use that nope even when they're looking for her in the bar this would be a great opportunity to have her turn into something else to avoid being found but no yeah she doesn't do it why did george make her a shape shifter the characters bring it up in a way that shows that it might be significant and i think she's a change in that case be extra careful yeah i agree with all this this counseling turns out we didn't have to be careful at all she's stupid oh it's lucky for us tadawash she just falls and breaks her neck it's a good thing she tried to go up right behind me with the ranged weapon and then let me fucking cut her hand off or something yep thank you didn't pull the trigger he's a good thing yeah yep these are all i don't even know what this is what the video should have been cosmo this is what it should have been not you just randomly be like it's boring though but if you go back into this movie and you pretend that she's just a regular person it doesn't change anything these are just the reason why is it a problem yeah i don't like why is he so outraged that her shape shifting isn't because it's because he can point out something that's just kind of weird about the writing and he could hammer it forever and people will be like oh yeah that is weird have this movie shit instead of actually criticizing actions characters take when they're supposed to assassins and stuff rules of writing a story now this scene is funny to me because if you take it and try to figure out exactly what's happening and why it's happening it becomes hilarious okay so i'm gonna have everybody try to follow along with me real quick so palpatine needs padme day but he doesn't want to do it himself so he asks count duke to go kill padme but count duke um is it duke the is it is it duke that told jango or is it palpatine that told jango i assume i assume that it was duke because we see you know jango coming back to geonosis yeah so it's safe to say that palpatine can't tell jango directly because he's trying to stay out you know like keep the he talks directly to duke and then duke is the only person who knows that is direct just like yeah he said duke killed besides and duke is like i know just the guy and he knows how to do it and duke and palpatine are like one and one the only thing that they're not you know duke is on a need-to-know basis he knows everything other than palpatine's intentions to essentially have anakin kill him like other than that duke knows all of it as well so like i don't know that it makes sense to me that palpatine wouldn't tell jango directly he would get duke to uh do it doesn't want to do it himself so count duke asks jango fit to go kill padme but jango fit doesn't want to do it himself so he asks his shapeshifter friend i mean yes yeah this all makes sense i think that makes sense the dumb music and the dumb voice he's trying to put on the track is gonna say he's getting very excited but i i think this all follows i'm just like okay look how crazy this all is like it's right there to go kill padme but the shapeshifter sends a robot what's that's a tool that's like saying she used a gun like oh it's a robot yeah it's a fucking tool i don't why does that matter i'm defending attack of the clones i don't anomaly says palpatine doesn't want her dead at all i mean i think that here if she was dead that would make his life easier but he takes advantage of the fact that the assassination attempt failed especially with all of the degrees of separation between him and the actual assassin which by the way is another argument for this it's very good that there are this many degrees of separation from palpatine palpatine actually foils jango it's either or oh she's not dead okay she's there's no way she's sticking around after this many times being alive or dead can benefit palpatine both ways that's why i would assume that he's fine with either happening and the thing is this would be a really good assassination plot if zam wasn't an idiot because everything is everything is working really well up to the point that she's involved to go kill padme and if you really want to be an asshole and get even more granular the droid says i'll send these little bugs so do you so just just out of curiosity do you say a gun sends a bullet like this is retarded this is why i think jango's an idiot in this film because the stupid camino saber dart we haven't even gone to that yet i know but i this the this is a thing right no we're focusing on stupid criticisms rags stop with the small ones no my but the issue if you're him and you're like i need to make a good video despite all my clearly all my disabilities that i clearly have you would say something along the lines of all right well the problem here is that there's all of these degrees of separation between the actual assassination taking place and who wants it there's a centipede there's the robot there is the bounty hunter then there's the other bounty hunter then there's count dooku then there's palpatine that's like five different threads you have to follow to get back to palpatine there's a lot of shit there's a long long trail to follow the issue is here it fucks up at the robot with a robot being stupid and why didn't just blast her with a camino saber dart instead of using centipedes yes not even a commuter saber dart fuck that i just wanted to do the voice the problem is you know just blast him that's seriously anything but the centipedes anything but the saber dot too i think that there's somewhere close to the worst possible assassination method you could choose to shoot her to shoot her and self-destruct blasts are so good so good they kill people in one shot despite armor apparently they also leave behind nothing that's traceable it's just a burn yeah sorry i said she wasn't even in armor she was in a nightgown the fact that they used anything aside from like a dart or a bullet or like a blast yeah it shoots the shot it kills fucking it shoots her 30 times just to make sure and then it explodes and it's like i can send something or it flies outside then explodes to scatter any potential evidence to places you'd never find it if it had dropped in a ball that was a grenade that could blow up a room that would have been better just have the just have the robot be the grenade i'm saying anything else this the whole thing that this plot relies on inexplicably stupid assassins and i hate that that's quickly becoming my big pet peeve with writing is that characters have to be retarded in order for plots to happen so horror movies usually bug the hell out of me especially the i want to highlight though because this is the reason why this is the reason we're here today like our criticisms they're all very very different from his which is people send people send people lol it's like that's not the problem that is not that's good that makes sense yes it makes sense that's what i mean like why does he do this to me to go kill padme palpatine sends a man who sends a man who sends a shapeshifter who sends a robot which is really fucking clever think about it but okay how is this a flaw if it was just the droid that got sent there was no bounty hunters involved except you know there's somebody that's trying to kill pat me so the droid goes through the droid is some kind of bomb itself destructs they find one little scrap of metal they analyze it they figure out it's from this planet called kamino that got erased from the records obi one would still go the kamino to try to figure it out and to write a and that's when he would meet jango you know yep he seems bothered by the fact that they have that there's a spider web of you know people involved in this killing it's like well yeah wouldn't he not want to get tracked down as easily by the way couldn't help but notice apparently he has time for all of this yeah it's not only a time for all this he repeated it like this is he established it all and then he lined it up and then he lined it up again he has time for all that really weird is this another plinketism and this is this is kind of what i get we're getting out with like skill of as a critic it's like he's missing all of the huge problems and instead gunning for these things that have perfectly reasonable explanations in fact things that make you go oh that's actually well put together also i don't think i don't think this was a plinket point now i don't remember if it is i seem to recall in my offhandedly mentioning that but it's been a long time so the one about obi one jumping out the window and anakin not doing that is definitely a hundred percent plinket but i think there's there's definitely i think it's a reasonable point oh it absolutely is who sends bugs to go kill padme and what's even funnier is that after they chase the robot and the shapeshifter jango has a chance to go by the way that vocal fry fucking gone well yeah he turns it off and he knows like he knows he's doing it i saw a video where he was chilling out with like some friends in a room with like a funny recorded video for a minute and he was talking throughout it and he didn't have the vocal fry and i was just like i knew you put it on don't you you put it on for your videos i don't know why i think i think it's like um the closer look where it's just like yeah this is the voice this is it this is me i people like this one very uh is like he forgot he was playing okay to be fair sometimes in real life i have to use my real name when i'm referring to myself and not say rags because sometimes i catch myself and stop myself because i use it so much you know your name is probably a thing that you own but everyone else uses more than you own your name i mean it's yours you know who sends a robot who sends bugs to go kill padmei and what's even funnier is that after they chase the robot and the shapeshifter jango has a chance to go kill padmei but instead there's a bunch of people on that room he's probably under incredible security they're all security people and jango doesn't want to be fucking seen no i'm sure it makes perfect sense if he just turns around and shoots he goes to all this trouble to to get an assassin to get different methods that are relatively secretive to kill a thing and he's like ah fuck it walks in a room shoots it jango pops out of r2d2 is like hi it was me the whole time pew pew he goes out of his way to assassinate the person he hired to was she was about to fucking spill secrets he was gonna tell who he was shit she's literally like i can't believe i'm saying this she literally says it was a bounty hunter called and then she gets shot bounty hunter called that's a weird name for bounty hunt why am i having to say pair tension to the film for oh no this is insane like why is he so bad that's not the problem the problem is he used the saber dart that's the problem assassinate me secretly genius these prequels are you didn't even fucking pay attention so shut up obviously stupid you are many original ideas these movies have the prequels while suffering from flaws were most definitely star wars stories you can't do this you've missed blatant plot points to explain all of your issues and then you're like lol everyone else is stupid and you don't even know what's wrong i was gonna say you just pulled a random clip from that dude i don't even know what he was saying really that's still clue are they originals are they real star wars stories yeah i mean aren't they i mean can they could be happening anything else by definition what's a real star wars story look like so obi one manages to track down the assassin and he finds him on a planet called kamino he is gonna highlight the saber dart right he's not surely you're gonna highlight the fucking saber i'm hoping the thing that i do strange to me is that wise jedi master obi one goes to this planet where he literally sees the clones being grown and trained and he learns that jango fet is the man that the clones are based on jango fet lives in this facility he also learns that count dooku hired jango fet careful he says he says yeah well he says he was hired by a man named darth tyrannous i don't know that obi one knows because as far as they're weird dooku isn't a sith yet right is i fadias no no he said no no no no no no no stop he says darth tyrannous to him he says i was hired by a man named darth tyrannous on one of the moons of boggton so obi one knows that darth tyrannous would have had jango set up to be the clone template which is concerning i would agree with that but i don't think he knows that that's count dooku at that point yeah the the issue with the scene of he also skipped over like 12 tisms but if we're going from this point forwards like he skipped some weird stuff but if you have there's there's the scene where he's talking to jango and jango doesn't know about xyphedias but the camino cloners told him about him so that instantly raises huge red flags that obi one does not inquire about or speak about oh chat i say any even he says tyrannous not darth well the problem i'm kind of everyone would have seen jango at the end of the film which means obi one should know that this should be concerns right about the construction of the clones there should be some red flags in there somewhere i'm trying to make sense of it fully myself in terms of where the problem would lie definitively obi one knows they're being made obi one knows they were ordered by a guy on the jedi council and that the template for all of them was sorted out by a man named tyranus but they don't know anything about like they don't know that that's count dooku's name as a sith right so it does that line up is that okay that's one of the issues but there's like well is there an issue with my question with the whole camino it's the concern i suppose is that jango's clearly working for the separatists and yet he was used as the template for the clone army that's it's just a bit of a like hmm should be immediate red flags everywhere right i feel like that should be a red flag you would assume that a bounty hunter would take jobs from pretty much both sides here that should be very alarming it's just yeah but it's very very oh it it should prompt immediate investigation so wasn't that the thing because by that point the separatist weren't separatist it was just the republic so maybe he writes it off because it started so long ago and he's just he's he's a mandalorian he's in good shape it's just like i don't know he's just a template it doesn't necessarily mean that the clones and the sith are involved with each other in any way i don't know i think that it's worth having the characters address that in some way just be like yeah that's you know nothing doesn't mean anything because i mean he fucking fights almost to the death jango at camino and so you might be like allegiance wise because you have concerns about the clones yeah like huh i just got attacked by an assassin here at hmm interesting um but yeah let's see where he goes with it i guess and he later finds out that count dooku and jango fett are evil and yet never at any point does he figure out that dooku and the clones are connected well again he doesn't say count dooku to obi one in uh thing he says to ronus yeah tyrannous and again we know from attack the clones that they don't they have no awareness that uh dooku is a sith of any kind as far as they're aware he's just a political idealist not an ex jedi he's a he's a political idealist not a murderer he's like what an odd line it is a strange line you can probably both of those things he wouldn't kill someone he's a political idealist they never kill people in any way obi one kenobi is given all of the information to figure out that the clones were paid for by the bad guys and it does not the way that you've listed it you're correct but you're you didn't show your work does you know that stumbled accidentally across is there a what was the point where obi one discovers that they've been funded by the bad guys i thought i thought that they tell him that cypher deus was on the put the order in i.e. if he's the one who paid well he even said this army is for the republic and playing that they are paying for it i don't i don't believe there's a time where obi one is told that the clones are paid for by you know the sith or the separatists or not even Darth tyrannous like not even that so yeah i'm lost on that one i don't even know if that's i'm probably worth watching it all again to really catch what names are used and where because i don't i think he's i don't even know that he would know that dooku is tyrannous but i guess he did and he's conflated the names now in any way obi one kenobi is given all of the information to figure out that the clones were paid for by the bad guys and yet it doesn't matter because i guess he just forgot if obi one just remembered that dooku and the clones are connected he probably could have stopped the whole okay but so so you're highlighting right that there is some connection to make between uh thingy thingy like let's just pretend for a second that your character in this universe who's noticed this and then uh people like why aren't you highlighting this blatant connection as to why the clones are evil in the middle of this war with the clones making it so that you can actually survive you're like i don't i'm i feel like as a character you'd be like i don't know that they are evil like they seem to be on our side i'm just saying like like again i think this concerns to be had and questions to ask but i don't think obi one has a reason to think the clones are evil the clones are literally destroying the very team you're you're you're assuming that they conclude are they they're a part of put personality suppressants on all of the clones because jango bet is a little off aggressive so that'd just be a thread of intrigue you'd continue to like okay so these clones are on our side but the origins are very suspicious strange to say the least and yeah i think that we could have used some lines there but i don't know that obi one would conclude that the clones are evil like from this i don't even know that you connect that uh count who was involved yet i don't know that he has the information to be able to do that or he could have saved the galaxy it's such a small thing that would have changed the entire course of the star wars saga and it's just based around obi one forgetting a crucial piece of information what are you talking about what are you referring to what they bring up information specifically which piece is he talking about when he says i was hired by the man named heronist like that's not useful enough for obi one at this point i'll do anything with that there's so much here i have we made all these notes smaller and like none of them he's not using any of our notes smaller we haven't even gotten to revenge of the sith you imagine what he's gonna do with that one oh so anyway that's the a plot and it's dumb as fuck but meanwhile you've not proven that yeah you haven't there's so many slam dunks here that you just haven't you clearly haven't talked about like they don't exist there's no time like this is where uh if you don't if you watch the films in you know enough time you can just reviewers can get away with all kinds of shit remember when obi one said anakin's mother was a whore that was an awkward line he's like that never happened really didn't it didn't it happen i think it happened she fucked the force and then she became happily monogamously married to oan lars and had two kids with him and only left because she was captured what a slut am i right fucking and that's and that's the main reason that they they have their big fight was that line that great line that it's just this line you probably don't remember we have the b-plot and it's just as bad because george lucas does not understand romance in this movie we get to watch padman anakin flirt and go on dates and this wouldn't be too bad if it wasn't so painfully written half of the shit they say to each other is pretty cringe bro here everything is soft and smooth now i wouldn't say that these two characters don't have any chemistry because it's not really like that at all i think that they could have made something work if they were better directed and if they had a better script you have great chemistry as he advocates for authoritarian hey man she she giggles she giggles uh and i don't know yeah i don't know that anyone does anyone disagree that the the dialogue between these two in the roman scenes could have been bumped up significantly oh yeah they they're awful as they are how do you get worse than rolling around in the flowers advocating fascism but maybe something was listen padmate we need a dictator and it does feel like to kill the bourgeoisie i wish it came from some other through line it almost feels a little like it's just like oh gosh that's oh that's anakin's pov geez he's like uh i think that people arrived at this conclusion yeah people who know what they're talking about should decide what's best and anyone who disagrees should be forced to agree like oh god all right what the hell how luckily she doesn't even have a spoon to that yeah she's uh she reacts very interestingly in this movie a lot of the time very very interesting reactions to a lot of stuff he says she's like oh i mean look at the scene where anakin talks about how he just murdered a village full of people this is how you can tell it's the director's fault not the actors i killed them i killed them all natalie can we uh get a reaction to this please um at this point he's talking i'm fine with her reaction at this moment she's a little stunned yeah probably that's probably gonna be my reaction just yeah wait wait for them to finish because you want to make sure you understood everything they said when they're talking about killing children you're like yeah you imagine that there are asterisks associated with this anecdote that she's that you're being given so yeah she's just paying attention unfortunately you killed them right yeah amazing jokes or the part that blows my fucking mind well it blew our minds when we were fucking watching it she says to be angriest to be hubered in response to all this it's like holy shit that is you're not even gonna call him on any of this like whoa so you're like a murderer and i should report you to the space police is something oh wait you are the space police fuck at the very least like bro we need we need to have a talk no that's your job tell her what to do help her help you george so these two really dumb plots converge on geonosis where we can have our dumb ass final battle and the end i mean we're letting him go for a lot of this for just like dumb plots you haven't explained why the plot of anakin and padmei doing what they do is dumb you've only said that the the chemistry is okay but their dialogue's bad like so why is that a dumb plot and secondly the one with the kamino and a nobby one you've not at all substantiated that it's a dumb plot so what i'm getting at is you just go these two dumb plots are now getting to the dumb final battle it was like oh all right show your workings cosmo your workings are not satisfying the teachers i know i understand why teachers now say this show your work yeah because of people like you cosmonaut you're why you hear that cosmo you're the reason that school was annoying you're the reason why i couldn't go to the back of the math book and at least get guaranteed half the answers the odds correct i just so there'd be so many red marks on his paper crosses you need to apply yourself just to make sure that you know the score on this is settled he missed the kamino dart right um yep we don't got the dart because i yeah he dexter jetster we we didn't skip over that right that's a hole no in in fairness in fairness he still has time he could still mention it because the committee that is the height of stupidity from jango fat to use a dart that is specifically tied to a planet that'll be able to trace bunch of shit this is like don't don't do that use a user sniper face with a blaster sniper blaster right in a fucking more goes straight down his throat blows open her organs do it it's a fuck up from jango that he didn't use a blaster it's a fuck up by zam that she didn't use a blaster and when she does use it it's at the wrong thing like uh just hire a random person on the street these assassins are dumb it's now devolved into a dumb CGI action climax and i personally cannot stand it action is kind of boring if it just shows up for no reason you got fucking clark just tell me why so then to end it all we have no you skipped no no they didn't even have we didn't even have r2 pushing c3po into the assembly this this is like this is this is the bane of long people they get short stuff the long the long the tribe can't handle this no you could have been long but you were short no god damn it like you he skipped over so much but straight to the last fight between dooku and the jedi like wow lightsaber fight and it's probably the worst one in the entire series okay i don't even need to explain why i'm just going to show you guys a clip of the fight and i want you to know that i did you say that as if you explain why as if he explains himself alter it in any way wait is he so what so we have to guess what his point is you're fucking kidding me all right that's the mark of a youtuber um you can easily argue that there's these attempts at feigning here or distracting that they're in darkness outside of their lightsabers so could any possible moment one of them could be going for a hit or they're just trying to distract the opponent there's plenty to work with here you can't just say this i need you to tell me why you think this is bad yeah fighting an a cam b cam i don't know come on you can sum it up bulge explain why and it's yeah in the time it took to show me the clip just saying words what the problem was your language they're still hitting each other during that too so what's the problem why are you making me so angry why'd you do this to me six a m more the most boring choreography i've ever seen the only time it's visually impressive is when yoda enters the battle and while it is impressive that the dooku stunt double is fighting with literally nothing and somehow making it look convincing it doesn't change that this is by far what i consider the biggest problem with these but you know it's semantics movies this problem is at the core of what i hate about the prequels okay and that problem is yoda it absolutely blows my mind that people don't have a bigger problem with yoda isn't that like one of the biggest plinket yeah is that yoda's out of character i'm pretty sure he says that yeah jumping around and showing that the yeah i thought that was a force is more than the body and all that i don't know that i consider a big problem yet depends on how this is all qualified in this trilogy because if you ask me this is blatant character assassination not sure about that not sure about that about his character is being assassinated so yeah i was gonna say like i don't like seeing yoda flip around i think it looks goofy but if you can have him have a light saber and he's that short there may be some jumping required to make it be able to fight this is where i'm i'm almost arguing that my into my sense that it's really goofy is just not actually an issue because it's clearly me like as a problem i think it's going to be a common issue people will find with the jumping around but if we're talking about character assassination we're not even talking about just the the visual of a green dude jumping around you know let's hear the argument i guess because i already make well i know what he's going to say though well you know the plinket point again and the only time he ever really does his homework is when plinkets already does his homework for him he's going to argue that yoda's like oh you know size doesn't matter when it comes to the force yada yada yada all that matters is that you love the force and all that shit well he's going to bring that up if you know he is if he if he tries to tell me that a that a that a jedi would never attack anybody because they don't support or some shit like that they wouldn't be involved you know like people who don't like to attack people they never get into wars because they just let people take over they never get into fights because they just let people get abused that's how that works okay so yoda being like a luke uh always do it things in defense now let me train you how to be stronger and you're like why is it in case someone tries to attack me with a lightsaber or tries to kill friends of mine by dropping a giant set of pipes on them and you have to use the force in order to save them or use your lightsaber skills to prevent them from being killed by this person are these possibilities or are those all considered attacking someone you can tell i'm already frustrated with this argument having existed previously and he hasn't said any of this um does he think that like in no other medium are peacekeepers or security forces or guardians ever portrayed as pacifists never like i can't think of anything where they are because it it doesn't make sense i want to play it because i don't even know if he's gonna make this point i'm assuming he is but we'll give it a shot he's gonna make the blanket point that's my thing let's see what he does seeing yoda with a lightsaber fills me with so much dread and honestly i can't explain it remember what i praise okay what a great change of pace that's your job your job is your fucking job that's what you're supposed to do uh okay all right the scene from empire where he has this beautiful speech about the force while all of that understanding and wisdom is gone in these movies why yoda never makes a single good decision in these movies saving the fucking lives of obi when an anakin is just bad decision now is that how that works seems like a decent yeah and wanting to go to the forward command center that seems like a smart decision to me around the perimeter survivors create that's right go if i was a general it just makes sense away more general yoda you have many stars and stripes to do so the decision to get the clothes to save all the jedi fucking bad decision yoda you fucked up what is this come on and it's because he always says oh the dark side is clouding my judgment yes he does say that but that doesn't mean he doesn't make any good decisions the fuck yeah come the fuck on man i need read don't say come the fuck on to the people in these movies when we have to watch this video please you'll plot elements because this shit isn't working i should never see yoda directing troops of soldiers i should never hear yoda say these words concentrate all your fire on the nearest starship i mean look he's a general that sounds like a general i mean like i understand the whole like i don't want to listen to mystical yoda be like yo we gotta put our troops in the forward front commands but why would he not be saying that when the jedi are generals i'm sorry and off was directing troops well that's okay because yeah but that's not yoda yoda short yoda said stuff about the force okay also they are as glib just said they are fighting robots it's not like i don't know i don't know it depends on be clear cosmo be clear seeing yoda doing ninja flips is just so upsetting for me and maybe this is why i like that luke dies without hitting it you just highlighted fucking ninja move from luke but okay i don't know i guess that's fine all right yoda's the one who's not allowed anybody with a lightsaber i have my problems with the last jedi but this is how a jedi should operate in my mind then what's the point of the fucking sword i'm so yeah what okay how do you guard things as a pacifist i want you to explain this we gotta refocus here he just so he's like i'm really happy with the end of the last jedi because he managed through non-violence to save the day it's like he didn't do anything he delayed kylo for a few minutes by being a ghost like what are you talking about if they had found the exit through the back quicker luke wouldn't have been relevant if luke had told them there was an exit through the back with his stupid force ghosty teleport they would have been fine if rose hadn't decided that she had to kill fin to prevent him from saving everyone's lives again wouldn't have been necessary all of crate is dumb like there's no i luke didn't do anything he died because he stressed himself out does luke think there does this cosmic guy does he think that jedi can just solve all the problems and keep peace in the galaxy remember when luke attacked vader what obi what obi was fighting darth vader that was just that was bad naughty jedi tut tut good guys don't use violence never naughty jedi killing people who want to kill people the lightsaber is meant to look at not to use you fuck it's something in your pocket that can magically cut your limbs off and whatever you need to cook your bread you simply get the lightsaber do you want to slice hand toast in one single motion yes yes yes now we need more lightsaber control you need to learn how to use the force in order to do nothing offensive with it christ i'm so confused your grandmother's now it's i feel lost nobody else dies for the rest of the movie except him yes him and also all the people who died before this but whatever sure whatever by him showing it by the way i'm still not convinced that if he hadn't shown up that the first order would have gotten to our heroes before they could have escaped anyway this kind of feels like counting deaths because of terrorism but starting at september 12th night or 2001 yeah well it's like hardly anyone dies from terrorist attacks if we start counting at september 12 2001 well he's he's saying that once luke showed up people stopped dying it's like we showed up after the war fucking finished but okay yeah yeah at the battle quote unquote battle at that point it's over him a jedi should work hardest to find the solution without resorting to violence okay okay sometimes you can still do that but you don't have a fucking choice sometimes you can't just convince everybody to solve their problems non-violently especially on a galactic scale i mean it's funny because we're dealing with like so comically evil it's just picture you know it's kind of it's kind of a full circle beginning this podcast so some kids are screaming while sith is about to slice them down and luke has his lightsaber he could choose to block it but would that really be a jedi thing to do sounds like you're engaging in violence almost i don't know man i hate this let's think i hate the idea that jedi are pacifist i hate the idea that any guardian of anything is a pacifist you can't do that if you are a pacifist yoda in empire you're gonna have to exercise force if necessary yoda empire was training him to not use anything he's learned i guess like i want you to be stronger faster and more attuned to the force because i don't want you to use any of that exactly but you know deterrent theory isn't a thing for cool in abu didn't have an army three when obi one invades yoda and says please yoda don't make me kill anakin yoda says sorry bro you gotta do what you gotta do um so anakin they just watched a fucking recording of anakin killing children they kind of want him stopped they gotta stop right to me and anybody who's willing to murder children i don't think you can peace talk him down at that point i feel like he's gonna keep doing this unless someone stops him also it's not because obi one doesn't want to kill it's because he doesn't want to kill anakin specifically yeah so i don't know why he made that nice and broad to try and support his points about jedi but not quite i don't know where the impression that jedi care about killing all this much came from in these movies yoda's number one solution is to kill the bad guys kill the kill the robots the robots aiming their guns and his fucking team of friends i don't understand what was what was he supposed to do robot stop it stop it what what is the advocate why is it bad he's killing a bunch of pieces of metal that are automatically deciding to shoot lasers at his friends what what's the problem there i just i just don't want him in in any military standing no but it's just addressing his point like why are we here why i can't see yoda killing robots oh god for bed talking about this he needs to jump out of his little ship and go hey stop it that's it that's it are you saying that he should pop out and say bad robot bad go home now that's the name of jj a room spot he never at any point tries to negotiate he always would negotiate with droids what what are you talking about this is absurd what the fuck is he supposed to do well out of ideas i am i i guess i know i want to see that scene though yoda is fucking negotiating with a random battle droid uh no we're going to kill you he's like but have you considered all options have you tried not doing that he just argued that video yeah i don't know man like garbage we haven't even this is actually garbage everything is like wrong this is so terrible this is best video this goes in guns blazing this is to save the jedi what is wrong with you look at him shooting those droids like some kind of a niacal monster i don't know your soul it's getting tainted with the oil of droids this isn't how jedi are supposed to work fuck off jedi shouldn't save their friends that's stupid it hurts man he must have hated return of the jedi when luke attacks and kills a whole bunch of people to save his friends he must have been like this is not what a jedi should do luke should be negotiating with jaba even though he tried several times try harder there's zero nuance and zero subtlety these movies just tell you there's zero nuance in yoda assaulting the droids to prevent them from killing his friends i guess okay yep yep because that's a moment where we really needed nuance what how do the droids feel about this okay that was a that was a really painful segment yeah it was like seconds that hurt boy how's everyone doing my drink is empty though how far i'm about to get another one i'm uh uh we're seven and a half hours folks god we're gonna have another it's gonna be another stream but we finish the video we can't even do super chasms some shit can't even criticize the fucking yoda and let me to you right jesus christ droid lives matter you flat out what is going to happen and then those events happen there's nothing to surprise you and there's nothing to enjoy there's nothing to enjoy not even when obi-wan kenobi it's impossible to enjoy what a great critic you know why the prequels are bad because there's nothing to enjoy like oh that's poor stellar i just yeah you nailed it i am i just don't even know what to do along the way you're gonna see classic characters acting stupid you haven't qualified that outside of him saying don't be reckless and then being reckless himself which isn't necessarily stupid just uh hypocritical you got anything else but yeah it is kind of stupid too not necessarily i think that humans often tell people you know do as i say none as i do it's fine all of us i mean i i i guess but boy it was really stupid to jump out and hang on a drone and expect that oh that yeah i'm not entirely sure what everyone's plan was there yeah i would i would i think i would agree that was stupid acting out of character but no remember these are the movies that are better than the new movies remember oh here comes the bitterness here comes here comes the this this is another efab bingo card thing their motivation becomes very clear in the last quarter it's like oh yeah fuck you for saying the sequels are better than the worst of the prequels like oh oh i see it all makes sense really defending the prequel we've been i've been this is a second efab in a row i've had to defend yeah i want to clarify accidentally defending them this is not our intent i don't need to that's not why i showed up prequels it's not what i signed up for prequels are terrible and here we are going to come on artillery hey man he needs to okay to save his buds i will have no hey man's to that hey man i'm not having it these movies understand star wars the last jedi is a real star wars movie oh gosh so when people make like enormous essays an hour long video is explaining how they destroyed luke skywalker as a character and his response is like they ruined yoda look at him flip oh no okay yoda should be negotiating with the droideka he didn't talk about so many things age i'm looking for my notes and there's so much there's so much here to work with i mean these notes are in like three columns i to so many but like none of these did he hit anything but this one is i mean this one gets to be a real star wars movie what do you mean to be a real fucking movie god damn is it and get there's there's stuff i hear like why does c3po think it's perverse for machines to create machines like there's a lot of weird lines that are just bizarre why does laris let them take c3po is another one yeah um uh it's sure insanely lucky obi one in the ship just happened to spot duke on a speeder yep um there's what did i have there's of course the cute mino saber dart uh the oldest clones should only be 20 years by their logic that's uh nothing basic yet possibly nothing there's nothing here about camino in the senate in 10 years of silence but they still do it all that stuff he did he just completely blew through all of that uh he never talks about how the force is out of balance uh let's see obi one saying this weapon is your life is really weird um let's see some of the shapeships and stuff the politicians are bad don't trust them it's a very simplistic view of the thing that we see constantly from the jedi um would she really choose jar jar for her replacement there's nobody better um let's see can you savor dart background like the if obi one has the line yeah the whole uh dexter jester thing if droids could think we'd be in trouble and how that just really muddies the water oddly based on what happens in sequels and what the fucking l337 well this is the thing star wars has stayed neutral on that discussion hasn't it for the most part except solar was like lalala it was like whoa whoa we want to avoid deciding that the droids not only a sentient but what rights let's uh let's chill on that one because oh jeez i have a note i have a note here for episode two and it is that i i don't believe that you could make a planet disappear i don't believe it uh there's that weird thing where he's like gravity what doesn't he say like he says he says something weird about gravity um yes a missing planet is pulling in stars well but didn't we can't get didn't he say like um he's the way he says it i remember saying like they should have swapped that to a different word because he says something that made us go uh yeah the way that he said it it makes us feel like the planet is pulling around the stars because yes right yeah sorry planet unless i'm wrong it i don't see how a planet can pull a star as opposed to the stars being pulling the planets it's it's it's a weird one again to get clarification on um either way i don't believe that uh the planet disappeared uh without like it seems like it'd be really easy to find if you just do what he did in the film which is just go check it's like oh there it is i suppose the explanation could be for that that already recently was deleted from their records but again i don't even like why would why wouldn't surely pal team would have deleted it like 10 years ago when the clones were set i don't know he did mention the weird cgi pair i feel like it's important that we discuss why they see gi a pair instead of going to the fucking supermarket and buying a pair but you know that's fine more idiots uh so many notes so many notes here and like none of it is oh he didn't even talk there's there's entire segments of this video he didn't even go over or this movie he didn't even go over there's so much better but he chose nothing about shmi in this apparently it's called star wobble according to chat a couple people said it it's the effect planets have on stars they wobble interesting hmm yeah but uh i think i think what we said was like surely they could have just said like there's gravity is being pulled to this spot there's this point is the information in how easily accessible it is in this universe and the fact that hyperspace travel is just a mundane thing everyone does i don't believe you could hide a planet from archives or anything like that well the logic i guess is that palpatine would have forced gotten it done like he would have gotten into the system deleted it uh and nobody would care to check right in the same way that you have a bunch of filed records and someone takes one out and destroys it and then someone's like by the way i need file one one two six seven you know 10 years from now and you'd be like oh it's not here hmm there is no file one one two seven whatever i said um or do but the but the but the kamino ones make their living as cloners for people like specifically my they take all these jobs and the interesting part to me i think that we talked about it's like how did they commit to this uh you know request for a decade without conferring with uh the republic or were they only talking to dooku and palpatine which is why when obi ones shows up they would have been like oh hey i'm sure you would have mentioned dooku and palpatine we think they check in after 10 years and ask questions like so like like this army how do you want them like we were growing them and everything this is a long process just checking in unless you want to come in and see if everything's okay unless dooku was there all the time and was like no just just talk to me i'll i'll be your uh your connection with the republic you don't need to contact them they're literally you're one guy to make an army it's so yeah i don't know it's very risky isn't it it feels it feels like it could fall apart at any moment it's like one phone call to the senate and it was like wait what an army where and there goes that if anakin had decided to show up on tatooine a month ago shmi would be happy and safe yeah that's also yeah yeah yeah there's a contradictory info from lars um anak there's a scene where anakin does more investigation work than mando does oh yeah lars was like um i'd still be out there looking for if not for my leg and then later on he says she's dead son anakin your mom's dead you should accept it it's like oh i thought oh yeah there's some stuff there's some stuff he's avoided all of it obviously that's like one or two points i guess uh catch us up guys we still have one more to go three out of ten i hate that you all made me do this we didn't didn't yeah you chose to do it and you didn't do a very good job i messed up no you didn't mess up your voice you forgot to do the voice he took a break because he got so upset oh man look how mad he was and of course you wouldn't need to put that in the video because you can edit the gaps and yet he decided he needed to tell us this because he's just so upset about the prequel this is it guys the last prequel and this is the one that people say is the good one well and i will admit that it's not nearly as bad as the other two but all right progress it's still not good watching attack of the clones really fucked me up guys but i'm gonna be honest when i got to this movie i was ready to tear into it but it's not as bad as i remember however this movie still has all the same problems as the last two except this you guys excited for citations you guys super excited let's do this man i feel like i've been disappointed too many times and i'm only setting myself up for fail here if i expect to this is the this is the one that's gonna get chat fucking pissed i guarantee you there's a lot of revenge of some people this median chat think revenge this is the best star wars film so cosmo they're wrong bring your arguments because you're gonna need them okay you're gonna need them feel like you're in a coma while you're watching it this is the movie that people meme on the most and i think these memes have kind of convinced everyone that this movie is better than it is no you don't get to do that you said as long as you're having fun long you're having fun like the room where it's a film that's gone prestige through being hated on if you're making memes out of it and having fun with all the content then surely by not leaving you empty the film is good is because if we have all these fun memories of it then it can't be that bad of a movie right well i mean if you have fun with it how can you possibly say it's bad yeah i thought that was his whole thing yeah i'm just saying bro kind of reminds me of another movie i've talked about with spider man two is really fucking good and you're wrong wait he doesn't think spider man two is good do you remember right he's like wait he doesn't well i've blocked some of this out of my memory perhaps subconsciously i should probably we should probably just rewatch that efab i can't remember what it takes for example i feel like i need to after a while also what a way to appeal like hey revenge of the sith maybe fondly remembered but it's bad just like spider man two wait what amazing it's the best of the rainy trilogy the first one's good this one's stellar yeah yeah i don't know the rabid fan base oh i'm just goofing new boot goofing now rabid fan base i mean pretty much old fan base is a rabid to a degree because it's just humans but uh if you're gonna bring some shitty arguments to the table you're gonna make people angry so be true remember what he said that uh i'll never forget this out may overreacted when she was told he had a hand in uh bed's death by leaving the room it's like wow dude really now this movie is set during the clone war okay war this title crawl explains that coruscant was attacked and palpatine was kidnapped off screen what the fuck man why does that need to be on screen why is that a problem yeah he was kidnapped qualify well this is a problem and now yeah you're supposed to watch the clone wars card i don't i don't care if i was supposed to watch that or not i don't care it's not relevant i don't care tune to see that stuff happening and it's really cool in that show but come the fuck on dude if i'm showing someone these movies for the first time this is the dumbest shit ever come the fuck on dude if i'm showing a new hope to someone for the first time they want to see how those plans were first gotten can't just skip over that yeah why did you later become evil by the way please skip the sequence and nothing will happen they yeah they want you to see rogue one but come on dude this is a terrible point terrible terrible terrible point what a shock this is where we begin this incredibly significant event is just not shown at all what do you mean he's captured how it happened is an important in fact there's less reason to know how it happened now of all times because we know that he could have orchestrated it deliberately himself like captured himself if you know what i mean that's probably what i mean there's so many ways you could do it either way if you think he orchestrated it or didn't he's still captured i don't understand why we need to see how he was captured if he's gonna argue like oh we need to you know get into the actual stuff that i well i'm sure he's not going to make that argument because this is the most action-packed opening of star wars movie could have in an absolute cluster honestly that would have been a really cool intro to the movie as opposed to what we got i don't like what we got yeah the opening scene was good stuff i mean i would have made the movie really long but i don't know you can trim some of this other dumb shit you've not specified why we need to see peloton getting kidnapped what dumb shit anakin and obi one talking together yes don't know they do too much of that in the prequels yeah because i thought you were complaining you were bitching about the fan of menace how obi one and quigan don't have enough interaction time i bring whatever melting help help i don't even know what you want any significance to the kashik scenes no they just wanted to what how do you trim the kashik scenes they're pretty quick and that they're only you know the point of them is that this is an example of the war that is happening all over the galaxy how do you how do you get rid of those i don't see they weren't in there he'd be bitching that they say there's a war but we never this isn't the same you know he would why do we need to seek peloton's kidnapping i still need to know this he doesn't explain why other than i think it would be cool like oh show us chubaca and why does chubaca look like that is it just me or does he look younger weird in this movie what's wrong with your face he looks he looks 30 years younger i don't know i don't have a problem with how he looks he looks pre-soloteness the hand is tipped oh also the title crawl tells us that there are heroes on both sides evil is everywhere what the fuck does that mean you don't know what that means okay well the distinction between good and evil is not so cut and dry as one might think so evil is everywhere his reference to palpatine is a bad man and he's in charge of the good guys right now that's that's why it's an evil everywhere there are thousands of solar systems who believe in very justifiably so that the senate is corrupt and needs to be broken away from and count duke was one of the many heroes of their planet um yeah i mean there's plenty of ways to infer that easily i don't even know what what what's the part that he takes problem with aren't any heroes on the evil side oh i mean duke who's not a hero he's a bad guy that's simple that's simple nobody like duke not even the reference at the end where newt gunray said but we had peace we finally had it we finally got peace guys and he's george you need to proofread your work so anyway this movie starts with something you need to fucking proofread your videos dude really you're not gonna just whoo and unique to star wars a long take and right off the bat it shows us that this movie is actually fucking trying now some people would say that a long take doesn't count if it's a cgi long take but that's not actually true at all yeah they would be very very stupid to say something like that that would be very very very bad of them but it looks like he doesn't agree with it which is nice actually takes a lot of work in fact that sounds like a response to plinket because i'm pretty sure plinket says that the fact that it's a one shot isn't impressive because it's cgi which is so wrong it hurts it did wrong wrong wrong to have a computer render this much shit all at once without cutting the guys over at the corridor crew actually have a really good video explaining this better than my dumbass can basically artists have to go in and then little by little they build up pieces of it on like individual simulations or setups or environments and they render them all out one by one they just put it all together layer by layer yeah well this is this is not just an argument for why cgi one shots are in fact i wouldn't even argue that this is yeah this is why cgi one shots are good this is just why cgi shouldn't be ignored cgi is not easy it's not something we should just go oh fuck a cgi doesn't count as being good anymore i was like hmm i don't know about that i'm a lazy so they did a cgi so it's bad yeah like a cgi is way easier to do than you know as we've explained before if you have a one shot of a chair for 10 minutes and then you're like oh it was all authentic and done with film i'd be like um okay good job but you have one that's entirely cgi meaning there's no because the obvious thing people would say is that when you're filming it for real everybody has to nail whatever they're doing everything has to be timed the way it's supposed to be you know it's there's a lot of risk it's gonna be really tough you have to do it multiple times while with cgi it's a series of building blocks that can't go wrong necessarily there's no like oh we tried at that time and it failed it's just like no they're building it until it's completed one shots do more than just be long this is something that annoys me uh it's actually i mean a the cgi one shot is like a tool assisted speedrun where you all just set it up piece by piece play it out you know you can make all these adjustments as you you create it as you go and you build it up and then hit play at the end so if i wanted to be a video essayist patentee uh i'm trying to think of words that make me sound gay but like that's my point right super gay okay i'd be like look you start with the two ships being obi one an Anakin our protagonist that we're very familiar with they cycle across a republic ship that's the good guys army space and then they cycle into a huge war with all these different people the wider context across carison which is the planet where everything takes place senate wise supposed to be peaceful and safe the highlight being that the war is that it's like peak of conflict and we know that palpatine's been kidnapped too it's like this is we've just rushed right into high stakes and we even had a nice little one shot to bring us in from things that are familiar uh to a broader one these are the things i'd want to appeal to i'm talking about why it's a good one shot as opposed to cgi artists work really hard because that's nothing to do with the one shot as far as i'm concerned that's just cgi artists work really hard which i agree with yep so yeah uh i i just i like talking about i like one shots i think this is this is a established lore about me on e5 but in the end we are agreeing with cosmo the uh we should not you should not just count cgi so yeah i think this is a really cool opening only ruined by the fact that we need to watch anakin fight these dumb gimmicky robots and that's kind of a problem that this whole movie has you might find what was that sorry it's r2 that at least scrapes them off of obi one ship yeah you could i can argue it's a fight between the mole i guess yourself almost enjoying a scene but it just doesn't stop the scenes in this movie go on for way too long they really overstay their welcome also we now have anakin doing something that he didn't do it all in the last no don't move on i was gonna say i guess we're just not gonna qualify that like give examples i'm interested in that what do you mean things go on for longer than they should like oh he's just saying so the the grievous chase yeah i guess it goes on for too long i yeah that's what he said i don't think we needed a chase sequence as part of that but well i'm okay with it because it took them to a secluded area where grievous is trying to escape that makes sense to me and it allows them to have a private fight sure and so you got to get there you got to put grievous in danger so he's got to go there like you didn't have to show it you could have montaged it whereas like they start chasing and then we cut back to them later and they're at the end of the chase or something but i don't see the problem in having the chase yeah seem fine to me yeah that's fair good deeds i'm gonna go help them out see in episode two anakin is really fucking sinister but it feels like george was like oh shit i made him too evil i gotta remind people that he's supposed to be a good guy and now in this movie he feels like a completely different character than he was in the last one i think a good deeds from attack of the clones that are pretty blatant i guess outside of protecting pad may protects pad may protects um uh i'm missing it just shows that once he gets pushed to his limit he's not above killing people and so in this in revenge of the sith he's getting pushed to his limit constantly which is why he snaps if anything it makes more sense but plus i mean he's significantly older than before he's learned a lot and changed a few it's kind of ridiculous for him to think that he's going to stay the way he is although i guess we would have it would have been nice if we could at least see a little bit of it somehow because i do my brain's going to when he's like he's almost a stick in the mud about going to try and save obi one if you remember an attack the clones and pad may's like lull the going he's like okay yeah and he says no we can't save him and then he did the whole you know massacre thing and he'd had that weird authoritarian stint speech so pad may and he was super upset that they couldn't make it work but they do but in secret at the end um uh i think it's a weirdism so the criticism would then be does it feel jarring that he's like i want to help those clones i don't want to die um i'm not to me it wasn't that big a change i mean maybe it was just a little bit of a brow razor because the clone troopers and shit i guess my issue is like i don't think he was he's not really been in any positions to have expressed that kind of concern previously in attack the clones uh i'm trying to think of like a time where he could have maybe i mean when pad may falls out of the ship he's like no yeah but that's pad may so could you call that the floor on the construction or that be overextending i'm not sure how i feel about it because uh the idea that he like the criticism is almost like he wouldn't care about the clones right and i'd be like i don't think we have a reason to believe he would or would not we're sort of in a place where he could um a lot of people are saying that he's had development i'm just trying to argue that uh is it possible that attack the clones anakin would care about people's lives and i'm like i think i think so he's just he's got even self-admitted in attack the clones to be like i'm frustrated about uh i'm frustrated that i isn't he like he comments on how he shouldn't be feeling as angry as he is about over one something to that effect i recall yeah i'm pretty sure there are lines about how he's like oh i shouldn't be this angry yeah like he's working on it okay i get the impression i don't get the impression he's working on it just that he knows they shouldn't be in shrug maybe him saying we should go help the clones is him working on it do you don't know no you know i will not give it's real trilogy anakin the benefit of the tell yeah it's definitely not as jarring as a you know loving luke turning into a murderer or anything like that so i almost want to throw it out there as something of a criticism that we don't get as much of an opportunity for anakin to express any kind of morality throughout the pt at the most it's in that capacity when that's a large part of the pts do you mean like him establishing shoulds and shoulds well establishing that he was really good to begin with yeah that he was the friend boby one talked about yeah he just does things and we have no idea why like why is he the way he is how did he arrive at that point why is he falling from some better place if he was at that better place morally do we see it because he seems like a really awesome place yeah he was he's always whiny upset angsty like where is this good amazing anakin that i think i think it's fair that we don't get enough of that i think that's fair wondering where the anakin of you one talked about is and why none of the jedi talked to him or like you know helped he's the weird one and then it doesn't help when we have these like i can't empathize with anakin he's not a very like cool guy you know there's nothing about him that i connect with or that i sympathize with he's just kind of an annoying whiner who does dumb things a lot a lot of people are saying it's in the clone wars like yeah yeah but it ain't in the movies either the clone wars doesn't make it any better so it does if you want i don't know i think i think you're saying i have a group of friends that have gone through and they not they don't think it fixes it at all i just i just only we should be advocating for that anyway but i think the previous should do it itself external resources so not a fan these jarring character shifts are not justified within this narrative we are supposed to see him killing dooku as a bad thing but based on everything we've seen in the series so far there's nothing wrong with him killing do yes there is some echo back what whoa you just said there's nothing wrong with him killing dooku whoa he even says i shouldn't have done that i'm just gonna go basics here like uh unarmed prisoner executing them when they deserve a fair trial under your own values that that's just wow anakin even says before he kills dooku no he should go to trial you can serve justice i want to repeat that one that one's shocked me as one but these jarring character shifts are not justified within this narrative we are supposed to see him killing dooku as a bad thing but based on everything we've seen in the series so far there's nothing wrong with him killing dooku no it yep that's that's to me that is a big difference what he said obi one was supposed to speak big difference between killing mole here and killing dooku he so oh he just murdered your friend there's a there's a world of difference here cause why how do you not see this it's not the same thing at all oh and killing moles fine but killing dooku isn't it's like oh boy killing people with weapons it's the same as killing people without weapons who are defenseless and who have surrendered did you see the look on dooku's face he's actually like upset and sad he's like please don't kill me need no kill i'm i'm i'm flawed i like that he's like anakin did good why is why is the why are they framing this like it's a bad thing dooku was a bad man like okay bear darth mall our heroes never spared any of the enemies literally these are not comparable the fuck ah by the way we have rules like this in real life i was about to say this happens in real life this is a thing in real life someone's shooting at you in a war shoot back if that person's like dying on the floor with no weapons and you've captured everyone around him it's all over you don't just fucking execute them like oh fuck it they're bad this is insane and to think i thought that this was going to be the easy part damn it wow why are you even saying this you want to establish that the film is wrong for framing anakin executing an unarmed prisoner is a bad thing like what the bad thing is the fact that we see palpatine manipulating anakin and anakin recognizes what he's done is bad it is definitely bad what he does there is no i i don't know what information you could possibly give to say otherwise i've been mindlessly mowing down i just like to think that everybody told anakin that bad guys have to stand trial even though they don't follow that rule themselves anakin says that to himself so he kills dooku so you can't you say they don't follow that rule themselves with palpatine and moondoo windo is very clear but the reason he doesn't want to do it with palpatine is because he has control of the senate getting the senate to vote on whether or not he should be executed it's gonna be difficult what he fucking has so much influence all he has to do say hey they tried to kill me they're trying to kill me because i'm trying to prevent them from taking over the whole fucking galaxy don't let the jedi trick you into thinking that i'm here to you know mess things up they're lying that's why basically just like we gotta fucking get rid of them and at any point he really has the argument palpatine can shoot lightning from his hands whenever he wants apparently so like what are you gonna do like what's like you're gonna put handcuffs on it like that's fine right it'll do it it's just doesn't actually inhibit me in any way no you can't do it no he's too dangerous to be kept alive you don't even follow your old rules based on what you do fucking wow again if you stop to think about the movie it makes a lot less sense this part makes total sense what you once again you highlight something that if anything can be considered a strength of the film and then you say like lol stupid writers good job this is the movie where anakin's supposed to fall to the dark side but his fall is not very convincing from a storytelling perspective it makes no sense also yeah no no no problemo anna if you want to hop out for a bit uh-huh good luck with the uh the comic campaign do you want to help people how to find that and stuff before you go yeah yeah sure sorry guys my campaign is in like final hour and 30 minutes so uh i'm doing a comic book cover and so it's live on indiegogo and uh it's almost at the final stretch goal and so i'm just going to go over to my friend's channel and chill that for the next couple hours but i will be back for super chats because i have a feeling you guys will still be going also do you want to link to your uh did you want to link to your thing yeah i go it's it's uh that style skill prevent prevents presents vampirella uh i don't know if i'm real i have to one moment i'm gonna tap out for an hour or two i will um it's have a fun time watching the rest of this oh it's gonna be great great thanks for bringing me out i'll see you guys later yeah good luck with the with vampirella thank you boy boy boy totals see you later that what is that the third kill calls me now bye bye yeah everyone's lasted a while no movie bob would have killed everyone much better not me i think moller and i've developed an immunity at this point if anything he can he can power us so yeah i don't know if i'm ready for that yet because i only come in like halfway through move movie bob so it's like a a cheat sense that he changes his mind so quickly based on no information um he changed his mind on no i say it's what he information changed his mind on so he changed his mind i can't believe i have to establish this at least this is what i think i have to establish anakin wants padme to live he's convinced through manipulation that she's going to die unless he joins and embraces the dark side to gain enough power to be able to prevent him from dying palpatine basically says i can get that sword for you but uh you're gonna have to do some other stuff for me i think the failure here is the strength of the relationship that we see and how their chemistry is which is really important when the whole point of him turning is supposed to be his love for her i draw the line at the young lane killing that's where i'm like i don't believe it um others like the the window one i'm okay with that i think i can see that especially when you put him in a desperate situation like he has to make a decision on on the fly uh assaulting the jedi temple i'm like oh yeah so i don't even i don't know if i i need to know how he got to there from uh the scene with mace and palpatine yeah he seemed really upset that he killed mace window and now i'm like well suddenly he's all the way suddenly yeah he's resolutely leading yeah because he's like i submit myself he's he's like they have dialogue to try and explain to us that anakin's like i will do anything i think he actually says i will do anything you ask right it seems like he's like desperately throwing his line with palpatine but yeah uh i think that could have been handled a lot better yeah really anything i'd show and kill all the jedi i suppose kill would you would you kill children would you that it's fast there you go if you're willing to kill children then yes go over it i'll do anything for you tales about plague is the wise prepared oh but anyway we'll talk more about that when we get to the actual shift in morality as a whole this opening encounter isn't really all that bad there's even some cute banter between obi one and anakin but this is really distracting to me because this is the first time out of all the prequels where you feel like the story being told to you is actually worth telling wait what was he holding on to uh i guess the idea it's weird looks like an elevator cable but if he was unconscious then what was he holding well the i'm assuming they want us to believe that anakin was holding his arm that was wrapped around his shoulder yeah i guess all right um but he said this is the first time it feels like the story is do you say necessary i forget i was too i'm gonna i'm gonna draw him back enter between obi one and anakin but this is really distracting to me because this is the first time out of all the prequels where you feel like the story being told to you is actually worth telling i think one of my criticisms of this was what happens if palpatine like can't physically hold on yes there are times when palpatine could have been killed here he what if he had to save himself in some way using the force oh yeah i think we talked about that it would have been cool if like unbeknownst to them he actually used the force in some way to save himself from something and he was just like yeah i'm not doing anything yeah trilogy ends early when he falls to the bottom and explodes well we know that doesn't kill him so i thought they'd be that's true fuck me because it seems like he is he's making a huge gamble of this plan like he could die so many ways yeah really does no do you mean like when the crash landing and shit yeah i mean once once he've even got to the point of it being a crash landing with half a ship i think he's like this wasn't in the plan it was when uh when the thing he opens the um you know the airlock or whatever temporarily yeah the look of shock on his face he's like oh yeah he was like yeah i don't think he expected grievous to go with the fuck you option i guess well that's the thing grievous doesn't know that he's him right dooku did yes did dooku now grievous is another degree of separation right did dooku know the palpatine was sitious do we have any concrete information on that i don't think i feel i maybe was the look he gave it right episode two in episode two he says to obi one who's like by the way uh i think the council is being controlled by a sith my dude uh we need to get to the bottom of this and everyone's like i'm not joining you i think well it's dooku's reaction to him being like do it made me think like oh dooku probably did know right he was like whoa whoa you're supposed to be my friend oh okay anyway this is the only sequence out of all of the movies that's almost consistently enjoyable so his logic is it's it's a scene it's the first time you feel like it's worth seeing because it's enjoyable that's that's the through line there so yeah i mean that's just self-fulfilling if his logic is it's only worth seeing if you enjoy it and it's the only scene you enjoyed it's just like oh all right he's currently playing a scene on screen where they've just been arbitrarily cool yeah i was gonna say this is not a particularly great moment if i could rewrite the prequels i would just have them set during this movie if we put the romantic subplot and the Jedi sith conflict into the backdrop of the war it makes things a lot more exciting i mean this shit's called star wars and episodes one and two don't even take place during a war yeah i don't have a lot of bad things to say about the opening of this movie except the planet yeah i feel like your definition of war doesn't include what happens at the end of phantom men is really to let this plenty of war to go around also i shall be right back oki doki i suppose i will be back in a moment as well i will take this opportunity to oh shit it's just you and me now for you we can hijack this entire thing yeah more data let's do all right let's do it he's a working dammit he ruined it yeah shit okay well i guess we now we need to talk about something yeah yeah so uh out of all three prequel movies what would you say is uh the worst one his cosmo couldn't seem to figure it out between uh one or two uh let me think it's i want to i almost want to say two because that film is abjectly horrible to look at and it contains some of the stuff i hate the most but it's kind of hard to beat how just replaceable one yeah one was pretty bad um but uh i would also have to go with two as well because like it has some of the worst lines in there um and the thing about it is there's this hello just kind of talking about which uh which of the three prequel movies were the worst among the uh and i think you think of the first one is yeah yeah i was gonna say the second one i think i probably just about get with the second one being worse it's tough because the first and second are both pretty darn close but i think yeah okay but i'm just not exactly it's not a very strong position i hold yeah i don't feel like i don't feel like there's a lot writing on me particularly saying that one is a little bit worse than the other yeah this is not exactly a high stakes game i'm playing i think we can both agree we can all agree that they're both quite tragic yeah tragic it seems so yeah it seems so weird too that we're we've spent like this entire episode defending it and yet or like yeah it might even get confusing that a lot of people tuning in are thinking is wait does that mean that this thing is good like no no it's terrible very bad i mean if accuracy is the most important thing and if you get your shit wrong about terrible films i am forced into a position where i have to defend accuracy which means by extension defending the phantom menace and the clone wars so a lot of these phantom menace notes he never talks about why does the blockade shoot at our heroes as they escape naboo do they not need her for the treaty signing interesting we're really weird stuff um a lot of a lot of notes that this movie's a really bad oh yeah oh yeah i've just accepted this mandalorian review is going to be longest shit i just just accept it how long you have to watch it in one sitting is will it be longer than the fallout review yeah probably yeah there's probably a lot more to say yeah and i want to be really really thorough i want this to kind of be the best video i've ever done i want this to be my return to youtube proper sort of video and then i have other stuff lined up afterwards i've actually started a couple other videos but i then i had to decide do i want to do a couple little ones then the big one or do i want to lead off with the really big one that'll tide people over for longer than you know that's what i'm going with yeah making a big explosive return it's just like yeah really put some wind in your sails i'm gonna fuck up some bad writing i'm gonna take this show to the forward command you're going to execute it like yoda does um yeah so um what else uh what else is going on in your world uh who are you talking to oh just anyone who cares to answer um y'all i'm talking to y'all y'all yep y'all yep accurate uh oh i got my carry gun recently yeah yeah that's good yeah it's it's still got more processes before i'm actually comfortable taking it with me but i got it now let's go to the range oh yeah yeah i don't know absolutely but you know you gotta get the license itself the office has actually opened up recently they you know obviously they're not going to give you the license over the internet so i had to wait until the offices were open yeah i gotta get the carry insurance i gotta make sure i get the right holster and the belt make sure i'm not printing etc etc etc make sure you're not printing yeah you can't see it through my clothes oh yeah because i'm flora florida we don't dress very thick so we have to uh we have to be pretty smart about that sort of shit what did you get i got the p 365 all right well what i do is in the summer uh in the winter you don't have to because you wear more clothes that are typically longer um i have this little let me go to amazon and give you a link what i do is i basically have this pouch it's it's a molly pouch but it has um these straps that you close and you can put them on your belts just like a normal belt and it's basically a belt pouch and it's small enough to wear by gun and my phone can fit inside so you can wear that externally on the side and it just looks like someone's carrying a pouch and like keep my phone in there too gotcha now i'm yeah yeah definitely an option i'm gonna i'm gonna try to do the um the inner the inner holsters that goes uh beneath the waistband and uh it's gonna be at the four o'clock and maybe in the pocket too it'll depend on what i'm wearing all right so that's yeah it's the plan so that's what i know those are all right in the summer or in the winter but in the summer part of it you got shorter clothes so when you go out to stores and stuff and you're bending down and moving around yeah yeah i know i realize i am gonna get i need to get some you know cargo shorts maybe some XL shirts and stuff like that but for the most part gonna probably also just get the put it in the pocket it's small enough uh yeah i suppose if it fits yeah oh it absolutely does have you seen the p365 um fucking things tiny yeah i i don't i don't like mine in my pocket i know i wouldn't keep it in my pocket i mean i wouldn't either but you know i don't well i mean you you considered it this moment ago well i mean it's it's an option if i'm in really thin clothing i i would prefer the four o'clock holster but if i have to i will definitely put it in the pocket it is small enough all right that i am i am a Floridian remember so it's like it's constant sunshine all right up to you i wouldn't for two reasons one being i i don't trust it just sitting around the pocket i think that's very secure well it's not gonna be it's not gonna be without a holster absolutely not not not gonna be without a holster that's ridiculous so some people do that and that's like fucking weird yeah no that's that's a that's a really dumb idea it's in the holster whether it's in the waistband or not it's staying in the damn holster oh don't get one of those i don't know if they're called cut let me double check uh do not get one of the are they called kydex no it's not kydex it's so there are some holsters where they sorry they're like made of plastic this this plastic material and they have a little tab and you press the tab to release the gun from the holsters i would highly recommend it at you huh like what is it spring it at you or something no it's just it the gun they're made for specific models and when you put the gun in the holster it clicks into place securely and to be able to pull it out there's a tab on the side of the holster that you press in and then it releases from the holster that doesn't sound against those i would have doesn't sound great i'll just stick to pulling it out yeah definitely pretty new with this so i'm just kind of like i'm not really gonna do a whole lot of online shopping if i could find a store and get some like word from some experts like yeah fuck absolutely so a lot of holsters are very the ones that i use the most are very very cheap i'm sure there there are expensive ones absolutely however the ones i use are quite they're they're very inexpensive and they work just fine so yeah that's what i was doing lately and then of course i ate at one favorite restaurant open today happy about that good day i haven't been to a restaurant in a long time it seems i don't know too much as it is but i haven't been able to go out with anybody really haven't been able to just sort of enjoy the food of places i i like but they've opened up right um some places probably are but i haven't gone to them in a long time okay yeah no i uh this is a place that i like no fucking kidding yeah i um i like to go to this place pretty regularly so to see them back again was really great they expanded their outdoor seating uh they they spread out the chairs they gave they put out like disposable silverware and menus and cups and shit so it's like yeah that is how you open up that's how you do it so good times um hello yeah hey there's the boy yes we're just talking about um i like how people are going to speculate it's like more than ever leaves efep streams for upwards of fucking 12 hours these left like four times with this one the fuck's happening is he okay yeah we know practice to piss all the time so what breaks to just go okay let me know keep it together well yeah so what's up cry oh well uh how long we got now two and a half plus five seven and a half minutes for him to convince us that not only is revenge of the sith shit but the whole prequel story was boop also i feel like a sub goal i feel like a sub goal of his video is proving that the prequels are worse than the sequels which by the way is they don't feel convinced because like i don't know the prequels are not worse than the sequels the sequels are definitely worse than the prequels prequels are bad but the sequels are a whole new level of catastrophically horrible um yeah i would say they don't know which way is that what yeah however i think that if you are going into this wanting to be convinced that these are bad or being like legitimately and honestly skeptical and wanting to be prove you want to have this point proven this video is probably not going to do it no this is a very very weak argumentation here and i worry for personal if he honestly thinks this is his best yeah i worry for you yeah if you think this is good that's sort of the problem because by the way and this isn't going to matter because who the hell is going he's just he's just not going to watch any of this let alone this moment but um sure he's perfectly amicable amicable and civil and that he has good intentions or whatever and that we've not actually really attack the character of carsmen or that much outside of being frustrated that he makes a a lot of statements quite mean in broad terms to a lot of different fads and stuff but it's like fine it's all ingest it's fine we're simply saying ironically sir and he can do better yes oh i think he is we know he can he did a great review on senua sacrifice he did a good job i well i mean i'm just i'm just speaking like it's capable mechanically speaking this video alone could be way better if you was just accurate it's kind of a same process with like movies where we're like you can't hurt yourself by adhering to read you know the consistency it won't hurt your video yeah that it does kill the pacing a lot the first quarter of this movie is pretty exciting but then the movie gets a really boring one of the jenni all right i feel he was just clock that under he feels it's boring again guys he feels it's boring it's like okay it's boring so the worst things about this movie is that a majority is based around our character standing in these cold lifeless cg environments spewing bad dialogue so all of the environments are cold and lifeless kashik is clearly cold and lifeless felicia is clearly cold and lifeless jenni temple i mean it's a plinket point the cg thing i remember that one where he says like all of the he even shows shots of them filming it right and it's just obi one walking in a bunch of blue rooms and i'm like okay but endgame is doing that a lot at the fight with thanos on um on titan i have to imagine all of that is just a big blue screen so i want to caution people i want to be like you know the conclusion was met in in plinket videos as to if an actor is behind all these blue screens and they're not able to see what they're supposed to be looking at that's bad and it's just like i don't know um the idea that they were looking at josh brolin with a poster of thanos on a stick on his back i just feel like it's pretty hard to take seriously but i guess acting is all about that shit i don't know um i'm going after the cgi i'm not gonna call it cold or lifeless because it's clearly trying to be the exact opposite of that yeah jesus mola doesn't know what he's talking about so just because it's cgi doesn't make it cold and lifeless i don't know if that's controversial to say yeah yeah you have to tell me why it's cold and lifeless because i ain't feeling it i i'm not convinced that it it's cold and lifeless i think that if you're gonna con if you are going to um criticize the cgi decisions and these movies you have a bajillion opportunities to do so when it comes to jango fat and the clones and all the stuff that isn't practical but should be and it's it gives almost these this this strange insistence by george that things be cgi when they don't need to be this is not the you have examples you can use you have references to be fair felucia does look a bit dim and cold am i crazy it felucia looks like a big old fantasy forest i don't have any sense of being cold yeah it looks like yeah and cold in the sense of like you know not temperature cold like it it comes across almost sterile or inhumane or something mm also mustapha being cold and lifeless is what i was like i'm gonna have to pause for care but i agree this exchange is extremely weird pain this is me i'm so in love no i'm so in love with you you like to stop it say to that i i i mean no no it's because i'm how is he able to play all this without getting some kind of copyright i don't know very careful come play this whole thing crazy no no i'm so in love with you i don't want to watch these movies anymore guys i want it to be over the middle chunk okay he he didn't he didn't play he played over the bit where she says so love was blinded you damn you that's like really bad come on the worst part yeah the shit cherry on the shit cake look at this movie makes one giant mistake in my mind okay it splits up obi one and anakin no no this is the film to do that the film to not do that was the first two um you need if you need anakin falling to the dark side you don't need you need obi want to be away from him obi went away from him where he can't observe anakin directly scene by scene moment by moment and advise and stuff like yeah this is not the one to bring him together which by the way another plinket point but i'm pretty sure i can't remember if plinket advocated for them to be together in this movie i feel like he's malformed it now he goes yeah uh if you're gonna break down anakin you need his friend and mentor to be away in this opening scene we get to enjoy our main heroes being together for the first time out of any of these movies we actually enjoy watching the main characters that's almost like they have chemistry or something well i don't know he's he's veering on implying that we haven't seen this before when he knows we have with obviously the opening of attack the clones they're together and they fight together and are together at the end of attacking the clones not to imply god forbid that that's enough because i think we should have done way more but he's implying that this is like the first time we've done this but he keeps covering his ass by saying like this the first time it's enjoyable and we're like enjoyable what do you mean i can't i can't work with that what happened before all i can say is well i i've enjoyed other bits i don't know look see oof oof on point stop telling me what i can and count enjoy he keeps him he keeps bringing us along his journey he keeps saying we and it's like stop it we and then george just splits them up and has them go on their own adventures it's good that he did that i don't know what to say yeah this one makes sense we explained and interestingly we're responding to you mr scripted critic who hasn't yet explained why it's bad that they split up and we've already explained why it's good that they split up plot wise so waiting for it and general grievous is such a weird character to me because i know he only exists so that we can have a cool fight with obi one in the middle of the movie the villains in these prequels are just so bad darth mal is cool but he's bad because he exists for a fight yeah i was gonna say you have to be thin is the best you can do with the villains in the rules saying they're bad i don't know about bad i don't think he's bad i want more of him yeah most people do most people want more of more grievous and dooku like no how many people you come across that have said like they're so annoying they're so lame i mean lame maybe but bro i don't know the thing with prequel villains is a strong premise but then there's just they're not around enough they don't do enough we don't get enough of them yeah i want more of all of them literally just wanting more though which is more than i could say about sequel characters at least when the prequels doesn't give me enough i'm like but i want more i actually do want more a dark ball and grievous when phasma dies we're like oh okay well then she dies again we're like there she goes again i guess i wanted it to die again in the third one that would be great it's kicked out of the movies immediately and doesn't even like have any lines count dooku is probably the worst star wars character of all time what whoa whoa whoa um gonna have to halt you there gonna have to pull you over you've just you've just broken the speed limit yeah you've both of your tail lights are broken only one wheel's really working if you can call it that the whole car is just fucked you have to be driving a boat it's flying on the rims here there's a there's a giant fish instead of a car it's there's something wrong gotta bring you into court for this one uh so before he qualifies this because you know he will that's just what he does uh what do you guys think count dooku how does he rank in the grand scheme of prequel characters where do you put him i think i think he's pretty high i think he's pretty high if it is i think palpatine's possibly the best then obi one maybe then we're looking like anakin kwaigon levels and then i'd put count dooku just below them i'd kind of put dooku above anakin um because what yeah what we get of him is more interesting we just don't get too much of him sure um i think if there was the same amount of screen time for dooku then anakin dooku would definitely come out on top um and so gives me less reason to be upset or annoyed what i like about dooku is thinking of that he's an ex jedi he disagrees with a lot of how the republic operates he's still pretty devious though and he loves the power that uh the sith has offered him and uh he's happy to play with people he thinks that are like way less powerful than him and ultimately he's betrayed by his master and it's it's it's like that's his plot throughline if you will would i love some more can't go wrong with more christ feliz fucking great absolutely but the worst character in the prequels worse than jar jar well he likes jar jar so yeah he doesn't even make the short list is worse than dexter jetster and mace window you take that back yoda yeah surely he thinks yoda's worse didn't he say yoda was assassinated yeah i'm so confused at this moment his existence is truly baffling to me and he never develops into a real character most importantly he never becomes a real threat and then we have he defeats obi one and slices off and then stalemates yoda this dude's powerful yeah this reminds me of the fucking droid argument they're not you can't do nothing you're like oh can't he like okay what do i what do we i don't know you're wrong why are these your arguments why you could be doing other things you have general grievous who appears out of nowhere just so obi one can fight something in the middle of the movie and we can sell some toys or something that's how you want to see it all right that is an interest that is certainly and a way to look at it and then palpatine is our main villain but he barely has any screen time until this movie if you ask me i didn't need much what it's called the phantom menace i don't understand we got everything we needed we had all the scenes we needed with him i don't understand we know what he wants we know how he wants it to happen he issues orders i'm oh his puppets he said worst character in all of star wars whoa now so um i got a few counter suggestions i that only creates more follow-ups oh boy all of star wars it's count dooku i need to like i want i just want to sit him down and say like okay so so captain phasma right now what no no those movies are good man rose tico oh no hold oh cull old death sticks guy god what's scissor punch who's who's the lobster man oh thurman scissor nope he's a thurman scissor punch is a better character than count dooku and then he just randomly jumps to palpatine's go loads screen time all of a sudden oh we should have just had palpatine and darth maul in all three movies narratively it doesn't change very much in the story and it would have just cemented maul as a true threatening force think of it's just too much like so many things to have to keep reaffirming like you never established that dooku wasn't threatening you just established that having palpatine and maul throughout the whole trilogy doesn't change much of anything it's like of course it changes everything what do you mean it's it's i'm not saying it's a bad change even just that of course it changes everything uh and just such a simple sort of view on just like this is fixes it it's like oh he's he's running my batteries down yeah just slot into all of the places dooku could have been but but that changes dooku's motivations are i mean i the different characters is he does he want maul to just like subsume dooku's some of dooku's character traits so he can take those roles or am i like like he's now simultaneously wanting revenge on the jedi while also being a political idealist yeah darth maul the political idealist i don't know when he was jedi ball they were like i don't know this day if darth maul and obi one actually had this rivalry throughout all of the movies that would be the cool i feel like this point was made by the people who suggested fixes for the prequels i feel like this is not his idea yeah i feel like he's gotten this from somewhere else i'm afraid holy s*** ever i'd probably care a little bit more but anyway i'm complaining too much i should probably talk more about this movie specifically it's just really hard to reiterate the same problems i've already talked about in length but we're hoping this time that you'll substantiate it fingers crossed video i can only say so many times that the writing is bad because it is and it's oh my god that's simple oh s*** do you think he just doesn't understand how people get to like there's a remain how do you what does he think happens in videos where they like what isn't this like we're able to talk about the fundamental essay structure at this point because if you want to call us a rant go for it but uh i think he's in the the essay community right you have a thesis you open with your uh sort of structure laid out than evidence arguments conclusion your standard sort of s*** and it's just but he's just not doing the evidence part and he's definitely not doing it's not doing any of it what am i even saying this gets a passing grade no all these movies i've already proven that it's not fun to sit and watch this movie play you've not proven that i'm sorry i i just you have to keep telling yourself you've proven to overestimate your ability to make videos right back good job i have proven that nothing but declarative statements with no real evidencing them well like a catch up one example at a time he keeps doing it he's like yep we all agreed last time just like now that i proved it was not fun like then what do we stop doing here and try to prove to us that anakin is a bonus point and to prove to us that him and palpatine are friends it leads to this movie having two modes way too rushed or way too slow i feel like i could take so many scenes from this movie don't don't do it again don't tell me the things you could do and then don't do just don't yeah either do it or don't don't tell me about how you can problems but how many times have you done that in this video like in different ways at least why at least twice i'll say it's at least three like you you definitely whatever why am i even trying to catalog the amount of times he's fucked up just like it's just the whole video either cut them out completely or trim them down the whole grievous fight is so stupid and it's just in the movie to stave off our boredom why is it so stupid tell me why is it yeah tell me why you're you're doing that thing where you just say something is a thing without explaining it as i think you're in a harmful relationship and i think you need to lower your expectations yoda on kashik is just here to give us more fan service and what he has to tell me he told me he'd tell me it's not just to me so you got kashik is one of many planets that are republic allies that are getting assaulted by the separatists therefore the jedi are split as generals across different fights yoda goes here because he likes he's got these friendly relationships with the wookies you can argue that chubaka being here is fan service i would counter i don't know that anyone gave a fuck he just stands there yeah and he's barely in the movie and like okay and if he is does it it doesn't like cause any issues with the logic i mean it's kashik he'd be here i'm fine with it what's the issue and he's like the only reason kashik exists is is because fan service for chubaka and it's like wow so the wall part of this the position of yoda in the storyline the fact that like the this is part of the betrayal showing that the clones are executing wookies meaning that like there are certain systems that even palptine's gonna wipe out because he knows that they're loyal to jedi or at least allied with it's there's so much being achieved and he's like lol chewy how do you not make this argument for tfa almost everything in that film and beyond that we just have more characters talking about politics that's not an argument god damn it what was it about politics that had george so horny because it explains how palpatine became emperor of the space world like that's entirely how he did it was through politics yeah he didn't do it by force you can't just say politics bad what are you doing i don't think i'll ever understand and george will be the number one guy to tell you that star wars is for kids come on man george because children can't understand the idea of a policy i got it i did too i remember fighting it very interesting when i was young i was like it's pretty cool how he did it but okay george lucas swear to me on your life that you wrote these scenes with children in mind will you defer your motion to allow a commission to explore the validity of your accusations is he saying the words are too big that is a kid to get that is he is like allowing a commission to happen will they let a commission happen is he is he saying the words are too big is that his point it's not politics it's the i'm pretty sure he is words are too big okay there you go guys game over all right there you go so anyway this movie only really starts being interesting again once they find out that palpatine is a sith lord a sith lord but even with this knowledge the movie still has a distinct lack of energy we must move quickly if the jedi order is to survive whoa guys slow down my heart's racing he's going to his vehicle he's on his way to go and do something i guess he didn't sprint i actually do like slower scenes like this where it's just anakin realizing that he's going to risk it all and interfere with palpatine's arrest it's just him wordlessly going through this problem and for once it's the movie is that what he's thinking of that moment subtlety the one thing i've craved this whole time but honestly it is too little too late that sounds like you'd be bored with subtlety i was gonna say i thought he was constantly advocating because you'd be bored he needs everything to be explicit so he appreciates that they fly now seen for christ sake halfway through the last movie and we finally have a scene where our main protagonist is showing his as opposed to our other secondary protagonist i suppose you could argue that is obi one he's a deuteragonist to a degree fine i'm just i'm clearly in bad faith now because this video sucks internal conflict in a realistic and believable way keep in mind that this internal conflict is the entire reason these prequels exist and now with very little believable internal conflict we get anakin just deciding on a whim that he is going to murder everyone he knows and loves and this is the main problem with this movie the whole purpose of this movie is to show his turn to the dark side but that should have been the point of all of these movies not just this one his conflict i have to pull what do you think the tuscan radio scene was yeah i was gonna say what do you think that was like why does he do this like this is a point that we just made earlier about what we feel about all this you can easily make this point instead he says like only revenge of the sith has any tisms to do with anakin's fall to the dark side it's like uh-huh except the first one establishing how it can happen the second one actually having that happen and then the third one as a sort of uh not a complete turn but dramatic fucking scene as to parts of him that are erupting and then the third film is the complete transfer i mean this is the thing like how can you make these statements what the fuck click doesn't exist at all in episode one and it's not connected to the plot of episode two that was interestingly weird it wasn't it village and because of shmi his mother his mother was in the first film if you but don't see rags plot wise shmi's death doesn't necessarily affect anything to do with palpatine getting kidnapped or turning into a sith lord therefore it doesn't count oh don't don't follow that at all also the first one again they line out if i wanted to i just i don't care if it matches the plot or not the point is to show what he's capable of as a person this is out of vengeance for what they did to his mum he killed all of them i'll give that direction how it's handled later and prior but well that's the thing it's that's the precedent that he's willing to kill children um but it's not the same motivation in the third one right like this one is out of vengeance that one's out of uh desperation doesn't even that never mind but to say that like desperation just well what i mean is desperation to save padme yeah but like would you agree with me if i said like it doesn't read that way when i'm when i'm looking at what would you mean like just before he kills them all he's like sad when he when he's marching in and then when he's you know besieging the jedi temple and then goes and kills the younglings i don't i don't see any desperation in him maybe that's just what would you describe his he looks very resolute hmm i think he's he comes across pretty significantly conflicted i don't know i don't know about that i'd have to check that face in those scenes again because i i don't know in my head he's like it almost seems reluctant which couldn't coexist with resolute i suppose uh also interestingly when he's killing all of the um the separatists he doesn't even seem at peace you know like with what he's doing doesn't even like drop a tear after he's done all of that like when he's he's like standing on some kind of balcony in mustafar makes a grumpy face yeah this this stuff this stuff in there for sure yeah if you remove his conflict from that story it doesn't change anything so as a result it leads to this movie feeling rushed it leads to a turn to the dark side that's not satisfying to watch because this is the first real movie where we've watched it happen and now at the end of the movie we have the last of the dumb shit the final battle in this movie is pretty important for these characters but the fight between obi one and anakin is too long i believe that is a clinic point uh not to mention it's other people's points too not gonna say it's not i don't think it's well i don't think it's like i noticed that he when he makes a plinket point then he does his homework and that bugs the hell out of me does he i think a lot of them are common copies superficially just about yeah that's the thing though it's like he's taking plinkets homework and presenting it as his own so he doesn't do that though well like like like let's say for example like when he was talking about how obi one and anakin should have swapped places when it came to dealing with the robot and the worms and shit like that all of a sudden oh now he's using he's using clips to prove his points and everything like that oh so he used several doing the make a plinket point yeah that's several making a plinket point but plinket already did that so it's like oh so now whenever you're using plinkets points then you're using the clips to i'm gonna say he didn't even explain everything like why that was the case he just said that should have been the case well well then he referenced like when obi one had said patience use the force at the end yeah but there's more references to obi one being reckless in the prequels than there are to him being careful so like if so i say it's out of character for him to be uh reckless i would disagree but if you were to say like he's have a critical for arguing that you should be careful actually like wow he's a teacher he's probably just try to say be fucking careful i guess i don't know well yeah but the point i'm making is that he used more clips based on like whenever he makes a point he'll use clips that plinket is used before so he's using homework from other people is basically what i'm saying oh so you're saying that when he makes points of his own this sort of lazily just like relatively yeah whenever he makes points of his own he's like oh i don't have time oh i can't even describe it oh i just don't even know how to say it's like really dude hey jade you have a good sleep maybe okay i forgot i had to talk on yes i did thank you we're uh we've got three minutes of the video left yep super i forgot again i forgot again i was replying i was like all right the thing i'm i've just woken up i like i've not got dressed or anything like i just put on pajamas and came and and joined the call because i'm obedient pyjamas pyjamas if you must know it's just a big onesie why didn't have to really are you serious jesus christ jay what i don't know why that's so funny to me it's just that you know one once you get past the age of five you usually done wearing onesies i didn't wear it too bad it which we way too warm for that i found it like i found it i woke up i was like story thickens but it's too warm to sleep in something like this at the moment because it's fucking like it's warm like i wouldn't make you just had to spare onesie laying around i don't wear i the fact that i remember something that i have to wear every night you're wearing it once is enough you wore it that you're wearing it now yeah that's a problem you can take it off if you like you do you it's your it's your it's your house it's your onesie yet far from me to get between a man and his onesie a grown man and his onesie anyway i and i shouldn't be wrong oh yeah it's just show him saying it's long by the way no you gotta qualify it by pointing out things that are unnecessary or things that have been repeated you know what i mean like we've been through this before he just says it's long it's like not good enough just because a bunch of people have agreed previously satisfied that it's long that's not good enough you gotta do better than that try harder apply yourself apply yourself yeah apply yourself flying to watch because this is the first real movie where we've watched it happen and now at the end of the movie we have the last of the dumb shit the final battle in this movie is pretty important for these characters but the fight between obi one and anakin is too long and i shouldn't even have to explain why i don't want to explain to this voice again i shouldn't have to explain please stop saying this i shouldn't have to explain what y'all what are you here for it's not a pretense about this whole thing you do i shouldn't have to do my job whole point is that you explain yeah the fight between two characters that i don't want to see in a fight scene but i'd honestly probably hate it less if it didn't end in a ridiculous way yoda doesn't even really lose they had oak in each other and he kind of just gets knocked down and then he's like it is over i have failed clones are coming in he doesn't have his lightsaber um yeah and then the counter to that is could he not sense where his lightsaber is and with the clone something that could stop yoda it's just like i don't know it's riskier this if he's seen i guess i can see it both yeah there's room there's room there to wiggle in terms of both sides of the argument i'd say i think the better issue would be to say once he goes from the speeder to instantly saying into exile i have to go it's weird well now well let's let's let's ramp ourselves up to that yeah like leaving this immediate fight yeah sure i'm fine with that if you want to like regroup or gather up jedi or something right you know he's like uh going to exile yoda of all people not taking like the hail mary do or die kill palpatine right here or die trying kind of thing i can see that but yeah it's in the speeder and somebody's like no no i guess it's over hmm yeah i would have liked more um motivated i um i would like more discussion between yoda and whoever else to explain the the idea behind all of it it's like i'm going to exile because it's better now that we regroup or something i don't know something just something i don't know i almost want to see him like in a moment of desperation like try and go for it then he like stops centers himself reconsideres starts thinking clearly and comes up with something else and decides now probably don't have a good shot and leaves something like that or you could literally just go with it's better we survive than um risk losing everything yeah something like that that feels that feels way within his character and this is the thing i think some people be like well that's clearly what his thinking was and she's like i just would have liked him to say it i guess i don't know they just be a little more clear that that's what he's thinking in some way yeah maybe i wouldn't have to infer i mean i'm not against inference i just i feel like this one's important to get yeah this is clear and you could just have dialogue that implies that rather than it being explicitly yeah we can we can write it so it's more subtle as long as there's enough to point us to it yeah he doesn't have to say it to himself either he could say it to a character in passing later singing he says into exile must go failed i have and it's almost like wait you're going into exile because you failed is that what you're saying like it's time on the nosey step yeah like he's like i fucked up i deserve to go to a swap chat said yoda should have said i am all the jedi well see this is the thing for yoda that if only yoda had channeled with all of the past jedi he would have been able to defeat palpatine yeah because they're pretty fresh he also only brought he also only brought one lightsaber idiot yeah time to go into exile what the fuck you didn't even try why didn't even try i think he gave a pretty good shot yeah he tried the thing is that he went straight from that to questionably too quickly into giving up he took quite a hit he went pang and for pal onto the floor he was like ouchies ouchie ouchies yeah he said that i think i think it's silly to say he could have tried when i'm pretty sure when he was attacking city is in many different ways that would be uh i'm gonna pull that he tried that's that's me it's my opinion my opinion my opinion this movie so obsessed with just bringing every element how would you what are you yoda yeah oh nice back to where we expect it to be for the status quo of the original trilogy to be intact if yoda tried to win but then failed and was like okay well obi one and i will keep trying better luck next time i wouldn't even fucking question it i wouldn't have left the theater like hey what the fuck he didn't go into exile there's still 19 years of story development between these two movies this is a blanket point for sure blanket so again and it's interesting thing about it's like george connects these two episode three and four pretty much one to one and as if it could have taken place the next day instead of the 19 year gap um but that's not necessarily a problem that's just like okay interesting that you line it all up so that's fine and i think it creates problems in the ot implication also in that i i'm trying to think of specific references just the way the jedi the republic and things like that are talked about in the ot makes uh the jedi and all of that seem like much more distant memory than it turns out to be of the beauty if that makes sense they do they have all this time to control the narrative though they can do whatever they want being the empire i suppose they they can make it so that all the knowledge the jedi is paged and anybody who talks about them is let's say given a thought crime letter like you man you think that that would be referenced though if that was um yeah you get it from obi one as well that they seem very distant when obi one is talking about them a thousand generations plus plus you've got like the imperial officers who officers who would have had this will happen within their lifetime who don't know that it happened yeah there's more work would need to be done to be able to justify it if it was just 19 years ago um like i said though the benefit they have is that the empire is in control of you know history's written written by the tizm's whatever it's more understandable between the prequels on the ot but there's no excuse between the yeah because the first order i'd even empower that whole time the good guys are it's like barely they even i will cause a myth like bitch what the fuck how but yeah no i i think i'd agree with that that more work should have been done to account for everyone's attitude toward jedi sith force etc i mean only ray thought that they were a myth maybe the film is just telling us that she's cheap only a palpatine would think that the jedi are a myth i'll make sense like if a movie set in the real world popped up and you had a character show up it's like dogs are they're real and you'd be like oh i get what this film is telling us about this character they are uh don't know dogs are real can we really prove yeah they're they're an interesting story the jedi would tell you woof woof find if you left some threads open they shouldn't have just given up after this one attempt if they both went in to kill palpatine after this they probably would have won that makes the conclusion really weak and unsatisfying it is a conclusion that makes our heroes seem decidedly unheroic because they just wouldn't it be much harder harder to get to palpatine again after this i feel so and not to mention that like the idea that they're taking care of these children and trying to save what's left of the jedi order essentially it's like wow how unheroic it's like oh well yeah i think it's kind of implied that they that yoda maybe does a little bit to help some find some jedi well i'm just talking about the the message they put in right where they were like trying to send every jedi to get away from chorison because the trap i talk drop uh they do a couple things they make a couple decisions they're like hey good good on you guys like like obi one slicing anakin in twain that was the good stuff and letting him burn and taking his stuff and choosing not to kill him when you know stance they're looking at him from out yeah i guarantee you he thought to himself he's gonna die it'll be fine he'll be dead fine even slowly and painfully like your friends to just melt oh he's an ass yeah it was me obi one's like you killed base window he was cool you bastard how could you he was gonna do all kinds of stuff like tabor jarja wouldn't have done that no john no he's a hero the true hero in fact i wouldn't have taken the high ground i would have loved if they'd shown obi one going into exile yoda going into exile and then jarja going into exile jarja it's my time we fail the final fight is between anakin and jarja jarja don't have a lightsaber obviously so jarja just like brutally beats the shed out of him with his fists pulls out the gungan shield and you saw us the chosen one you saw us the chosen one annie you fuck he's talking in his little cutesy voice while brutally just pummeling like an already down anakin he's just pounding his face into pulp with saying stupid lines like you know grabbing grabbing him by the head and like smashing his head into the rocks and he's like you also won hard to say anymore about this movie that i didn't already cover in the other reviews because i don't think it's fair to judge these three movies individually you have to look at them as a unified picture because that was what george intended okay you can do that you can also judge them individually individually why can't you judge them individually and as a prequel trilogy what the fuck yeah so while this movie isn't the worst out of all of them i still can't forgive it too much it okay how do you feel revenge of the sith calls it a variety how it doesn't forgive you still has bad pacing a stupid if understandable storyline and more of the george lucas brand bad dialogue don't make me kill you five out of ten and don't make me kill you i don't know i don't know if that's is that line on its own i yeah i feel like i would have gone with the from my from my perspective yeah i always i don't think it's don't make me kill you is a line that bothers me on its own it's in response to what does your what does obi one say something like um i do what i must no because anakin says it as a response to something that i i remember feeling like why why was that what you said to what obi one said i'm gonna have to check the the script let's let's do it i mean it was delivered kind of painfully yeah the delivery made that painful and i'm receiving that was george directing yeah so you got don't lecture me obi one i see through the lines of the jedi i do not fear the dark side as you do i have brought peace justice freedom and security to my new empire and then everyone goes your new empire and then he goes don't make me kill you it's like i always found it as such a your welsh accent i just know the i just to me i'm like obi one is like wait what empire what and then anakin's just jumping toward i'll fucking kill you mate you're annoying me now if you phrase it like that it still likes reveal your empire what excuse me if you had you know him him saying i would bring this to my new empire and then everyone says all right empire what and then anakin is like i'm a fucking kill you mate yeah i would i would prefer well it just it's it's like when he says like i see through the lies don't feel the dark side and i've set up something that's great he's like it's a full argument for why everything's going pretty well then obi one is like questioning one part of it and he's like i'm gonna fucking kill you now it's like whoa you just you just it feels like a jump to me that's all all you all you need to do is just generate maybe one or two lines where obi one is like you're delusional it's not your empire it's palpatine so that anakin is like no oh he was like yeah say we're gonna go get you canuggets and everything you delusional you delusional of day anyway that's me to think that you said gonna have a bad time also you gave us a five out of ten what did you give trost does anyone can anyone go find that out jay go find that out pretty sure it was like it was like three out of ten for each so so i'm gonna go find that out you need to know that i i i agreed to the improvement but not enough of an improvement so that was it the roughest patch in all of star wars the worst of it is over and i decided no last is yet to come before the new movies came out that we would never see a star wars movie as good as a new hope and similarly we would never see a star wars movie as bad as episode one and for a while i thought i was right i thought if anything these new disney movies would be safe and inoffensive why did you show a shot of this when you said inoffensive yeah and i have never been more wrong in my entire life okay i mean i did it me that he is wrong we got to get that last 25 seconds okay i'm gonna do this oh maybe not we did it no we need them i want to mute it in case that song is copyright because i don't even know but i like dancing dothmore that's cool he's a see this is why dothmore's the best character in star wars yeah man look at that guy look at him go he has so little that's the thing about like when we're talking about the villains people like these characters we get so little about them they have so few lines no motivations really no nothing personal about them we just want to see more of them because they're nifty and they're cool and they get our imaginations working yeah they're bad the fact that you want to see more of them there's something give tiara us a six that's more than oh my no come on oh no he rates that i also don't want to let's watch it all now i know people people are gonna be like oh do his one for the ot do his one for it's like do you see how painful that was that was horrible that was densely packed with me like this is seriously that was like what nine hours of an adventure you can crop that probably to like i'd say six significant hours of just absorbing his channel oh i don't i'm not kidding when i say in super chat where i'm like yeah i dislike like 95 percent of youtubers like some of this stuff or at least the you know the content they make is like this shit this is this is what i was dealing with for so long where i was like i want to make my own stuff this sucks cup it's like if i see someone be like oh yeah it the cell is bad that they start saying it's boring and poorly paced i'm like no no no you could do better than this all right good poorly paced poorly paced boring politics bad taxes taxes everybody taxes taxes taxes and yeah the shame of it being that this is caused by plinkett technically even though plinkett made his videos what i want to say like a decade ago now i don't know how long and uh this is just like a poor this is like a poor imitation and he gets rewarded for this hardcore not only does he think it's his best video he's got nearly well 1.5 million views because we can call that that was terrible yeah one of the top comments is palpating being captured off screen is bad imagine him coming back to life off screen oh my god oh jesus christ true that would be super bad that would be uh unacceptable you would really have to explain your score really hard then it's treason then well that happened yeah it did um i suppose that that brings us to the end of the uh the the reactionary part of the stream and um unfortunately so what i've been randomly disappearing for is trying to solve a problem and uh i really need to deal with it unfortunately so i was like i'll get to the end of this video and then and then probably call it there which i really don't want to do because rags and i already have uh an e-fap and a small stream's worth of super chats to respond to as well as the ones from this stream which means we're gonna have to do a super chat stream probably early next week or just next week in general and it's probably going to be uh for a while i didn't i mean i'm not gonna say i didn't expect this to go this long because it's a 40 minute video i had a little preamble so i should have known i say 40 is 45 it's important i bet you're that five because that's like a whole extra hour uh so um but i think i think i think it went well i think we made our points clear i think if anybody found that video to be frustrating there's some catharsis in the stream and hopefully our position on him as a creator is pretty clear though i would happily have him on e-fap and talk to him about movie criticism because i'm sure he would love to after the many times i have offered him and he's declined like it was totally gonna happen but again that's not that's not me being like oh my god desperately please come on the show i just don't i just would rather it not be looked at as some kind of like i hate him i don't i just think his video is all very good okay yeah don't let us make it funny we would love to have you on um be nice to him everybody yeah yeah yeah uh if if if you see him on twitter being like those fuckers made another 10 hour video because they're obsessed with star wars and and ripping apart of people's feelings just be like all right whatever like if you want to check it out go for it if you'd rather just pretend that we're all insane go for it people like actual and then end all your comments being polite and respectful yeah mohler mohler hashtag mohler army we're gonna fuck up patrick willams bro because people are gonna start saying i know i knew that was possible that was gonna be a possibility it's so absurd people want to absorb it it's like hashtag mohler i was hilarious so yeah uh hopefully everybody had fun links are all in the description for different people's channels i will add theos in there as well as dustbull shits um there's nothing on that shut up it will eventually be tell him it's coming um is but like i said me and rags will get to the the soup shats absolutely uh it'll be a long one but it'll be a mini still because that's apparently how the format must work okay we have fun uh thank you very much for all the very kind donations the fun little memes we had in between the things i'll try and collect them up for another time as well and um i suppose we'll see you next saturday is that we've already got what that's that's planned to be you'll you'll see it's gonna be fun another funny fap it will not be a prequel arc e fap we'll have more of that to come though and i believe i am on critical drinker stream tomorrow i'm gonna be talking some terminator if you want to catch me there i think i'll be there and other than that videos are on the way from rags and i and there's no point in talking about jays because no one cares about his right jay who's very well sorry so anyway that'll be about that thank you all for uh for watching and uh if there's anything else anybody else say before we uh we kick off that was a bad video but the prequels are worse the pre i don't i don't i don't think so i think the prequels are better than that video prequels are it's not even close prequels are bad you misspoke i understand yeah that's a terrible that video was like a one out of ten if we had nine good startless films good night everybody