 There is nobody in the audience here. So just three of us and cameraman, that's it. So, no doubt, no. So just, I kind of live on these phone conferences my whole life, so just throwing it out there to anybody is just, for anybody that hasn't been on one before, the most important thing is just keep your line muted unless you're ready to speak. Because even the smallest amount of background noise can be really over-conversing on anybody hearing things. And then when you unmute yourself, there's always gonna be a pause. So there might be a two or three seconds before it kind of switches you back on. So just make sure that you take a pause before you start talking or else we might miss a piece of your conversation. So how do you mute it? Should be at the bottom left-hand corner. Oh. Oh. What was that? That was showing. All these mo's dressed. That's a mo's tree. Thank God, it's 6 a.m. So just remember if anybody wants to speak, just I guess what I'll do if it's board member related, just hit your unmute button. If you, there's not many in the audience, but if you wanna say anything, just maybe just wave your hand in front like this and then once I see, I'll call on you. So, all right. And then I don't know how well the audio cues will be in this hall because it is challenging to hear at times, so. So we will call the meeting to order, 6.03. The first thing on the agenda is to approve the agenda. Did anybody have anything that they wanted to add or modify on the existing agenda? Chris, I'd like to give the board. Ms. Kelly, did Kelly send you the email today for us adding David Rue and the other he sent? I got a little mini packet here from David Rue. I'm assuming that's what you're talking about. Yeah, but was it the telephone company? Yeah, consolidated communications. Yeah. Is there something for you guys to sign in there? Yes. Yes. Somewhere I saw it, yeah. Yeah. There's a slide board, this is an addition to your pocket. Yeah. And Kelly was going to email you this information today. Yeah, we got it. Looks like we have it. Okay. I was just checking through these originals here to see if it's on one of those, but yeah. We got at least one copy here. Okay, so that would be an addition to your time. Okay, so we will add, we'll just put that at the bottom after the liquor licenses. So Lisa, at the bottom, after liquor licenses, we're gonna do the consolidated communications easement. Alice. It's probably not an agenda item, but I'd like to do an update to the board about the community efforts that have been kind of ongoing. Would you like to do that at the time of the COVID-19 discussion? Or would you like to do it under other business? Let's do it in that discussion. Okay, yep. So we'll just, You probably are gonna have to repeat things I say to the folks on the screen. So, yeah. I don't hear anything other than, Yeah, that's fine. She actually just mentioned it to me, so I'm probably gonna relay anything that Lindley says. When we're talking about the COVID-19 discussion to give us an update of the local evolvement. Okay, anything else? Nope, I don't have anything. It's tough for Mo to make motions tonight, he's on mute. All right, I'll take his role. All right, so I need a motion to approve the agenda as modified. So moved. Second. Okay, all in favor? Aye. And for any of you board members, if you don't want to take it on and off of mute, you can always, on a motion, just raise your hand. Thumbs up, thumbs down. So first, first we do have public comment or inquiry. There is no public here. If there's anything, Doug or Lisa that might, I don't know if there's anybody else on the meeting from the public, doesn't look it. Anything else? There is, Julie Henneman is on and then two other call numbers Okay. They belong to, but there are besides Doug, Lisa, Julie, there's two others. Let me see if she wants to find out who those phone numbers are for Lisa's sake. Yeah, and like Linda was saying, we probably want to know who all the people are that's on the phone call just for documentation sake. Yeah, Julie, very good with you. Okay, Judy, do you have hands? I think. And what about some of the- She's on one, who's the other one? Julie Henneman, okay. Hi, Julie. There's another phone number, 793-7800, I don't know who that is. That might be Cindy Metcalf, I think, or Andrew. All right, I mean, if you're on, it would be nice to get you for the record. And if you're on and you're the public right now, you can take yours off mute if you have a public comment or inquiry. If there's anything that isn't on the current agenda for this evening. There you go. We will move on. So just before we get going on the reappointments here, I just wanted to mention, after talking with the board members this past week, we felt that it was probably in the best interest of the town to continue on with our meetings. You know, it's kind of a sign of strong support for the town that we are working for business and we're still operating as normally as we possibly can. You know, we do have, you know, we do have continued, you know, things like awarding a water blind bid, focusing on the virus discussion and, you know, appointments and things like that. So we felt that was in the best interest to keep moving along, even though that might be us getting creative like we're doing tonight. And, you know, we're starting a Zoom meeting. So you guys don't need to get used to that because eventually we'll be back here again. But, so, you know, I thank you for everybody, you know, the ones that came tonight that are braving it. We are five, six feet apart from each other. And so we'll move on. And now I know what we were talking about maybe doing one motion to go through these or re-appointments to the boards. It was brought to my attention by Linley that there's at least one individual that currently is medically detained. So we may skip through a few of these tonight and do them individually. I'm kind of looking through them at least, the most important ones from what I saw for tonight to make sure that we have is, you know, we need to make sure the health officer is re-appointed. Seemed to be the most important one. And then kind of pick through the other ones, I guess. So I guess we'll just kind of start off in the order that it was given. And so we had the re-appointment of Neil Fox as representative to the White River Valley Ambulance Board until March 31st, 2021. And we had sent him a letter asking about his interest and we had received an interest back. So I would entertain a motion to re-appoint Neil Fox as a representative to the White River Valley Ambulance Board until March 31st, 2021. So moved. Okay. Second. Might be a little tricky, Lisa, with getting the motions in seconds, but if you need help, just let us know. We need like cards, you just raise a card out. Or paddle. Yeah, there you go. Eyes on one side, ears on the other. If I'm going too fast, Lisa, you just unmute and tell me, okay? That was the motion and Valley was the second, right? Right. Yep. What's the date? Okay, the next one is to to re-appoint Tom Burgos to the representative of the stagecoach advisory committee. And we had sent him a letter and he also has replied back that that he's willing to continue as Bethel's representative. So unless there's another, there's nobody else. So I would entertain a motion to re-appoint Thomas Burgos to the stagecoach advisory committee. And that's until March 31st, 2021. So moved. Lendly moved it, did it get a second? Second move. He's in there. Not letting go. This is like an auction tonight. Hmm. Yeah. All right. For now, we're, we are going to just table the, the representative to the regional transportation advisory committee to reappoint Keith Bowman and Penny Griffin to the DRB board until March 31st, 2021. So if I could get a motion on that one. Mo has moved the motion and Lendly second it. Okay. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Okay. Next one is to reappoint Neil Fox as the health officer until March 31st, 2021. And again, we have sent, sent out and had received that he would like to do it still. Was there, was there anybody else that wanted to, that we had? I know at one point we had a couple of people that had expressed some interest in it possibly, but. So I would make a motion to reappoint Neil Fox as the health officer until March 31st, 2021. So move. Second. Okay. Lendly moved it and Paul seconded it. Next one we're just going to skip over for now. It's the deputy health officer. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. We can talk about that one again. See if we, Yeah. And see if we need. Hi. Yeah, more calm time please. Well, just, we'll just table that to the next one and see if we have to do it again or not. I know we did it. We did it last year, do some circumstances and if people feel like we need to do it again, I guess I can, but could be deputy dog again. All right. Is that what was the table? Yeah. We table that one. March 31st, 2021. Yeah. I'm thinking those are yearly appointments on those trees, right? And Moe? Yeah. So the next one is to repoint to the BRTS board, which is currently is Moe and Judy Brigham and Robert Young. And I believe all of them are going to do it again. Correct? Correct. Yeah. So we will call this that this is an appointment through March 31st, 2021, to stay consistent with the other ones. Yeah, I think it's supposed to be in one year. Yeah. I believe that you're right. I don't know all the ones. It doesn't say it in local. No, it doesn't. That's you. Just put it up so I can see the comments that they may have on. Okay. All right. So I just need someone to make the motion on that. So moved. Second. So Paul has moved it and Linley is second it. I don't know if we need all in favor, but I got some thumbs up. We're good. Next one is to reappoint the EC Vermont Telecommunication which currently is Matthew Washburn and I'm just looking for that one. Yeah, it's an email from him. Yeah. I saw it and then I don't know what I did with it. I don't know if I accidentally put it in the stack that I already got rid of her. Yeah. Because I thought I saw something in there with him saying he would do it again. Just wanted to make sure before we did it. That's all. Oh, here it is. Yeah. Yeah. So that would be, so that need a motion to reappoint Matthew Washburn to the EC Vermont Telecommunications Board as well as Ian Stewart as an alternate representative. Yeah. And this would both go through March 31st, 2021. So moved. Okay, Linley has moved it. Come on, Mo. Mo's second it. All right. Yeah. Gotta give each other turns. Yeah, gotta keep him awake. Well, sometimes there's a little delay, you know. All right. And then we have, next up is the reappointment of Lisa Campbell and Mark Heckman to the Conservation Commission until March 31st, 2023. So this is a three year appointment. I did not see anything from those. Yeah, I didn't see anything. Do we know if we got anything back on those threes? I think I got anything. No. Close to sent them all out. So what? Not okay, but if you want to wait, no problem. Yeah, I was just thinking to be consistent with our other appointments. Normally we kind of get a one sentence back on an email saying, I'm good. So why don't we table that one? So we'll table the reappointment of Lisa Campbell and Mark Heckman to the Conservation Commission. Okay, I'll give you one. Yeah, just good to stay consistent on that because we've had some in the past that have gotten nominated for things and then find out that they didn't want to do it or had done it in the past but wanted to get off, take the LSO. Yeah, she had sent letters, maybe she just missed those, so all of them are tomorrow. Okay. All right. And then I didn't see a letter for the next gentleman either. I got a letter and I told her I was good for it but I'll jot down a little. But being on the board here, he's kind of our board appointment. So just need a motion to reappoint Paul Valley to the Two Rivers Autocreechy Regional Planning Commission until March 31st, 2021. So who? Lindley has moved it. Moe has seconded it. Okay, all in favor? All right. All right. So I just wanted to summarize. So right now we have tabled the appointment of the representative to the Regional Transportation Advisory at this time. We've also tabled the deputy health officer and we have also tabled the Conservation Commission reappointments. Was that, did I miss a name on it? Okay. No, it looks good. All right. All right, we got through that. So we will move on to the, probably the hotter topic of the evening which is going through the COVID-19 discussion. I had kind of had, well, Thrice and I had Kelly put a discussion topic on that for many reasons. And the first and foremost is really to kind of fill in the public of what the board has been doing since the onset, which can be very difficult because it's tough for a five-person board or a three-person board to do things together because by standards of not being able to go out in public together, sometimes it becomes very difficult to do things in public together, which then sometimes others might see it as the board's not doing anything. So I guess one was important to see what we are doing as a town and a board, what we may be doing individually because there are some of us that are doing things individually that have either tagged on to a group or are doing things with the municipal office or others. So I was gonna first, we'll kind of go through what the board and the municipal office has been doing to date just so that we can recap and review things for everybody. So that will be the first piece. The second piece I wanted to go through was kind of the town's response to things and how do we feel the response has been so far based upon talking with either other towns or the state government, what may be coming down the road for us that we may need to be thinking of because it is kind of tricky because this is moving rapidly where we're only meeting every two weeks. So do we need to throw out a meeting once a week or do we need to split up into smaller groups to tackle things, that kind of thing. So we'll talk about that. And then the third thing, at least for now, well not the last one, but the third thing for now was I had Kelly and Pam kind of just go through this time of year right around April 1st is where there are things anywhere from water bills being due to dog licenses and other things. So what types of payments licenses are coming due and how can we make it easier for the taxpayers to make those payments so that would be kind of a discussion of Pam and Kelly put together a couple of the fees and interest things that will be coming down to pipeline folks to kind of talk about and see maybe as a group do we want to help out with fees and interest if it goes over a certain time and that kind of thing. And then I guess the fourth piece would be Lindley's going to update us with with her involvement with the local community action group. And maybe at that point we'll all switch seats. I'll go down there. She can appear. That's actually thinking I can just look. You're going to dial in? Yeah, I'll just look and you'll mute and I'll talk directly. Perfect, so we'll figure that piece out. So the first piece I guess is just kind of entries you can jump in on this piece with what we've been doing at the town office. I think, you know, Teresa was, even though Teresa was on her vacation, she probably didn't, I don't think she really used much of that, but just kind of go over a summary of, you know, we felt it was important not to shut the office down, but to put in continued seas on making sure people are safe and, you know, limiting the floor traffic in there, but also having somebody on the other end to answer calls and point, you know, people in the right direction for information. So why don't you take us through the municipal office piece, Teresa? So currently D. Dre actually is sick. She does not have COVID-19, she just is ill. So she is working from home, managing cool stuff, trying to figure out how this is going to affect cool opening, frankly, because all of the lifeguarding courses have been canceled and she already was going to have several people who were not able to come back this year that were certified lifeguards as well as certified instructors. So, Lindley is working on that right now, our Lindley, do you think? Wow, she's gone for a second. And I know, good job, so you're certainly not out right now on that. Pam, I talk to her, the town clerk's office is obviously close to the public, but she is there, she has plenty of work to do, reporting, selection things, so she's managing that. Kelly has taken one of the other laptops home, so she can check her email. Her workload is a little bit less right now, so she is going to be working partial days from home, partial days at the office. Once we set, if we're going to work nine or three or whatever she's going to do, we'll let them. Once we sort that out, we'll move in tomorrow, we will publish those hours, so that's what's happening there. I have spoken with Alan Patton about the road crew, the road crew is currently working. They are taking precautions, they have the door closed and locked to the garage even when they're present, so people need to knock on the door. They're keeping hand sanitizer gloves, they're trucks wiped down, obviously not swapping vehicles. I did tell Alan that if he had specific activities for people, they could stagger at their time so they came in, so maybe one person starts at five and next to five, 30, and they're certainly coming to prevent him from doing this point. Dave Bergeron is done, he's, our seasonal employee, he's no longer, he's off the, off the works. He'll be going back to his normal job in a couple of weeks, so Dave Bergeron isn't in the mix anymore. Obviously I speak every day to Dave Algargetti, who was obviously doing a fantastic job while I was in Florida, keeping myself and Chris in the loop, and he's taking all the precautions necessary for the fire department, fire fighters, and so that's where it stands with the office and stuff. I do have some specific questions I wanna ask the board about, I have been, I listened into the meeting last night with the group that lived in, going to speak further about in a little while, but I do wanna know how this like work feels about there's been talk about doing perhaps a direct mailer to residents either in conjunction with other communities or Bethel doing just Bethel residents in case someone's out there who does not have access to television and internet radio, maybe if he could send out a flyer that he looked into their refrigerator with specific contact numbers, places they could get assistance. That's one idea. I'm not sure if that's something that the board wants to do or not. So I guess that's a discussion topic. So this would be a mailer that would have all. Yeah, yeah, Paul was just getting ready to say something. So this would have all the local contact numbers? So this mailer would have all the local contact numbers or are you just gonna send out information in regards to the virus and the precautionary items? I think the idea behind the mailer and the discussion. Well, again, this is a smart thought, this is family. Well, so the idea of the mailer was really more a regional concept that it would, because our postal system crosses all these town lines, doing a Bethel mailer doesn't actually breach all Bethel residents, but it would be more effective if we did it regionally and did more of a how to on if you need services, how to get information that you need and how to get those services that you need. And then like if you wanna help, how to find out how to help. So really a lot of it was the idea of not just having people going out and about to try to find things but get information to them without them having to leave to find it and really to hit the folks that aren't on the internet that aren't getting inundated in the same way that most of us are, as well as the concern of people who've moved here from out of town either recently or really recently in the relative past or recently because of this who don't know what the local resources are that it would go to their addresses no matter what and then they'd have those resources to know what's available. So just, I'll just reiterate what Lindsey had said this occasion. You could hear her. You could hear it? Yeah. Okay. She was clear. All right, good. So I definitely spoke today with Rebecca Sanstone and she had said yes, possibly regional or did we wanna do just Bethel and answer to Paul Vowell's question. Yes, providing a contact name for food shop, the stagecoach's number, capstone's number. People that we also pay for creation money to. So I do like the idea of regional along with literally because the rural re-mailing system it just would be cheaper and more cost effective because we're all looking at similar resources. So I'm just not sure if the board is interested in participating in something like that either on their own or with other surrounding communities. Yeah. I would think with the surrounding communities so who would actually put together the flyer? Probably some of the aid groups that are currently active would put something together and then there's even potential funding sources we're already starting to look into grant funding to push money into this if we need to and so that could potentially, there's not anything right now that would fund that but the idea would be that it's not taxing one town to pay for it that it would be a shared responsibility. We'd all review it and say yes, we're in and then probably an external source would be putting it together and helping pay for it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think it's a good idea. You know if it ends up just sending it out to Bethel residents or if that doesn't mean a couple other municipalities join in with it and have more group effort but I think that's of course the one time I don't need my phone. I get the same, it's just the Vermont Center of Disease Control calls me like once a day on updates here so I've been missing it for 12 hours so. So I think that. The only resources we may end up having to put a little money in for is it posted because the group that's meeting the volunteers obviously they're wonderful and they just don't have enough money and I'm talking about a little bit of money for postage or something like that, some big several hundred dollar out there. Well I think it's good that I would assume that it wouldn't be a large dollar sum but I was researching and there is FEMA money available for maybe not necessarily this but for any extra precautionary measures that our employees or town have to take during this time which I guess you probably could roll that into that somehow you know if you had to whatever you know buy more supplies or certain pieces of equipment or something that there is money available or yes there is money available currently because of the declaration. So. Got something to say. It's me just so you know that's not a guarantee. I also do that same research for someone they said for us to track our expenses and might be able to get under category B so you're right you know we'll definitely track those and keep our fingers crossed for sure the state's gonna get FEMA money whether it's trickle down to us it's not gonna happen. True. I'm not right. But. I think that's a great idea. Would you mind reiterating what I said about that the community group is pursuing some grants as well. Yeah and then if you didn't hear it when we was reiterating that the local community group is pursuing some grants as well. So it sounds like there's you know a pretty good opportunity to get some sort of funding for it. But you know I would assume that if we didn't get any funding for it that the cost would be you know for the most part pretty minimal for for the value out of that you know I would think. Uh huh. Yeah no. Cause you know and Lily hit it right on the head that I was I was reading and well of course I first was watching everything in motion here last week and then I was reading some pieces of how a lot especially a lot of the second home buyers you know have ventured out of the city away and are living you know Vermont and Hampshire upstate New York. I mean you know taking advantage of their second homes right now which means that they like Lindley was saying they're not used to being up here. They probably don't know that there's a certain identity that could help them with something or if they get sick or you know whatever it might be. So definitely I guess my only concern would be is how accurate the mailing list would be you know cause you know if it's regards to what it is if it's you know town reports or something that always seems like there's another addendum to that mailing list that never gets like figured out you know. Well he wouldn't actually he wouldn't do a mandatory as we do a viral route just like we did the waterline to avoid that. So they get every house. Just postal customer it says okay yeah so it says postal walk in or whatever. Yeah which is get why it would be more effective doing it regionally then we're not going to accidentally miss a pocket that's not on a roll. Right oh yeah right right. Didn't you hear me. Yes we got you Teresa. Okay cool. Yeah Lindley was just reiterating that you know and a good reason of doing it regionally is you might have somebody that physically lives in Bethel that has a Randolph address you know or stock bridge on address. So okay Mo or Dave your thoughts you guys good with that or Dave gave something about. So I guess that you know I would say that I don't know if any motion needs to be made but it sounds like that that the board in the town is behind the efforts of making that happen. So yeah and I'll be Teresa's on them and Dave is on them but I'll be on any of the calls that where that kind of thing gets decided. So okay give that message along as it goes. Chris there has been some question from the employees regarding COVID-19 quarantining et cetera. I've kind of been moving under the thought process that if someone is out because they're sick they'll use sick time and if the government institutes quarantine we'll just pay them and not make them use their leave time. Is that, is it really comfortable with that? Yes. Yeah I would say that follows standard practice. There's also a bill I think at the national level there's a bill for up to 80 hours of extended leave. Extended leave. So I haven't heard where that is yet. I mean I think the consensus was Dave or Moe have anything different is. After that Chris, I've talked to some of the other people that are down and they're public service people that are being sent home. Oh. And they have been on call. Why are they doing that? Because they don't want them to sit and if the burden is safe they're not going to be the ones that are able to work. Well see and that's funny because like the state of Vermont right now I was in a meeting this morning where the state of Vermont is asking my company how can we get you out in the road faster? We want you out in the road. We want to get people off on employment. We want you out and about you know. And from what we're being told from the agency is that the construction trades or at least the outdoor construction trades is safer to perform because you're typically not in a large group and you're outside. So I mean I guess my thing is there's not a lot of them and they're probably able to work somewhat independently without being huddled together all day. But I think the biggest thing that Theresa and I were talking about today is you know you need to make sure that they're being busy you know making use of their hours and if that's either maybe split shifting and having two come in at this time and two at this time or work you know a little different days or hours that might be more beneficial. I know we don't have. I spoke with them Sunday, I spoke with them again today and asked him what his personal opinion was and he at this point he doesn't seem to be concerned about working feeling that they're taking appropriate precautions not allowing the guys to stop and get coffee or anything during the day so that they're not mixing with you know too many people and kind of staying to themselves and trying to work as appropriate together without being too close. Yeah I mean we will have you know we obviously have a snowstorm going on right now but you know this time of year is usually the you know freeze thaw, freeze thaw cycle of muddy roads and there'll be lots of rough grading out there you know on a almost daily occurrence. So Dave do you have any opinion on that or? It's a list here. Yeah I guess all I know is but here's some hesitation people that if you are available to work they'll tell you that you are sick and cannot or you may use up their lead time. So I don't know how that corresponds with municipalities. Well currently I mean currently you know the policy would be if you know if you are sick let's say if you do develop a sign your symptom and you know well just like anytime you know if you got sick then you would have to take your sick time and when we had a touch base on it here a few minutes ago that there is a bill I think it's in the house right now but a national bill to increase the sick time I don't think they're calling sick time but like a personal leave or leave time to 80 hours which would give some extended benefits just for this crisis I mean I guess my personal opinion right now is that you know we stick with the policy however if there becomes an exception to that if one or two or four people get sick then maybe we have to look at that differently but let's hope that nobody gets sick that in around the town of municipality but if it does we might have to take it on on a case by case basis what do you think Theresa? I think that's perfectly appropriate I think that instead of making a blanket policy at this time we take a look we do have some employees with a significant amount of accumulated leave time it may become a case where somebody's ill maybe people with a municipality want to donate some of their sick time to someone so I think we could be better off staying on a case by case and evaluating it as needed obviously praying that everybody's healthy and there's also depending on what position they're in in the government but you know there's always options to work remotely now maybe on the work crew that might be a little different but you know there are options you know if someone does get sick then they have the ability to work from home and be productive or you know so I mean does the board feel any different at this point I mean do we just kind of go with it on a case by case basis and kind of deal with it as it comes or is that too big a word? I would feel good if I know that Theresa and Alan are you know actively communicating about procedures as the state is updating information for us and making sure that the guys are updated with all of that and just making that decision day by day not saying it's this until our next meeting but yeah and that's the tough thing with this you know this whole chain of events from this virus is you know what you did yesterday may not be applicable today you know and it's kind of a you're like running at all times trying to keep up with what the changes are so I don't know if you heard that piece that Linley was saying Theresa but maybe if you had a every morning maybe a little five minute conversation with Alan on you know any updates that might come in the last 24 hours and how you made deal with that. Tim and Richard too. Yeah as well as keep you know obviously Dave is up to speed on pretty much everything but also you know Tim and Rick and yeah so just making sure everybody's kind of up to speed on what the town's response is for this moving virus and changes. That's fine that makes sense and I also like I said I talk about staggering shifts but I can also talk about if somebody wants to work different shifts somebody who works six to two somebody who works two to something else to see what makes the guys the most comfortable. Yeah I have spoken with Tim he's all set and of course Dave and I speak daily sometimes multiple times a day. Yeah and you know and then the last thing I would say is just you know just stress the importance to them that if they show any signs or symptoms and I know it's difficult because we're still in flu season and cold season and allergy season but if they have any symptoms they really need to mention it bring it up to their supervisor and then if that's you and Alan or you or whatever then make the decision on stay home. I think in addition to that I'd like to add if they think they've come in contact with anybody so I think this is the moment where we all have to start and the recommendations are we're keeping a list of every person we've come in contact with I think that especially in a position like there's if they think they've come in contact with somebody who's a positive test to self isolate and not put everybody else at risk. Did you hear what Elaine? Should I think so? She said basically keeping a list of who you're in contact with during the day. Or if there's someone that you are in contact with that does come down with it to make sure that we're being appropriately responsive to that. Yeah I think the big thing I've been hearing a lot of cases people who identify later a spot where they came in contact with somebody but because they didn't feel sick at the time they didn't self isolate and reiterating to pretty much everybody in the town offices and the garage just that if you think you came in contact with somebody and they're now sick self isolate now don't wait until you start feeling sick. And then I'm just piggyback on that of just stressing the importance to follow the guidelines when they're off duty. So making sure that they're at home or taking the precautions needed. You know not hanging out. I know it's getting harder to go anywhere now but. It's also getting harder to identify positive tests. That information is not readily in the paper or on TV. I listened to the director of Gifford Medical today and he mentioned that there are two cases in our region he would not get any more specific than that. They're both home isolated neither are in the hospital but it's hard to know sometimes if you've come in contact with somebody who's positive he's got a positive test. So that's a tricky thing they said 97% of the people will never show a sign or symptom so you could be walking carrying it and never get anything so yes, Moe. I'm quite aware of the situation where last week somebody came into an office they had to do what they've done but all the time I believe that people have an office or anything like that. But it's not self-quarantine it's not. Yeah. If the whole office is the big office and the facility is only 40. Yeah. And they're waiting for the test from back. Right. Well. If it doesn't happen as fast as you're feeling a good day and you're dealing with people and then all of a sudden you've got a whole bunch of people who will be working. Right. And talking with one of my friends who's a doctor at Gifford they're anticipating that a week and a half from now that they will be in peak bloom. So and then they said that that's probably gonna be a two to three week period. So that's probably you know he said that you really haven't seen anything yet. So I guess you know as the tricky thing for us is you know we don't meet again until two weeks from now. Right. So a lot can change in two weeks. So I think we just have to you know especially Teresa on your end is just maybe come up with your plan B's and C's on you know when we leave this meeting tonight we might feel really good about where we're at but you know Saturday it could all change. So. Yes. I would like to say that I would be more in a group actually if there wasn't or anything that would happen that would come up if we were hoping that that would open. Okay. I'm not a little bored or not. What's that? Now you're bored or not. Of course you are mom. Yeah. I would make you realize that we have to go. Okay. That's true. My plan will report is to send an email to the select board every day at the end of every day let you know what I know what's changed. Obviously I didn't do that today because we were meeting mom but that's my plan is to send out an email every day to the select board you know in department heads and let everybody know where we stand at the end of the day. And then if you have any comments get a hold of me separately don't you know because we don't want to have a meeting but that's my plan moving forward. I think that last week was different obviously I wasn't there and I think it just was everything was happening so fast. Everybody was doing what they could. They just it was all the wrong thing. Well if you look at it. I'm sure they might have some opinion to have somebody to ask this. Well. I'm sure that's true and we'll make sure that we do better without this time and I'm sorry that happened. I know it wasn't in any intent it just I think it just happened. No I share Mo's a little bit of Mo's feeling I felt kind of disconnected also but Kelly was really doing her best to keep you know with her daily reports and whatever you know they could and then I stopped in once you know before we shut off the foot traffic and kind of got caught up and but there was a lot going on. That was an awful lot going on. Well I mean definitely you know the challenge of last week was that you know we went from well we everybody in life went from being fully active and involved in their community to being you know every day a little less actively involved more isolated and it was it was revolving faster than people could get information out there so it was you know whatever eight o'clock in the morning they release this information and then at noon they've changed it and said now you need to start doing this and oh by the way tomorrow schools are gonna be closed and the next day you know limiting food places to foot traffic you know it just rapidly decreased or increased really quickly so I think we have a little better handle of it now and obviously with trees being back I think that the communication will probably be a little bit better now it's probably Mo and Dave and it probably will be a little tricky still so I think you know not that you're being left out but I can tell you on my level last week of trying to work from home, teach from home and doing the slack work and things you know I almost you know it was way overwhelming it was like but it might be I'll try my best to maybe send a week might be too long but maybe send a week update unless something major changes maybe just kind of this is where we're at for the week but if we do have some kind of major event like I don't know a couple employees get sick or something then you know put you guys in a little faster Do we want to meet more than once in two weeks do we want to meet more than once in two weeks or are we going to go to conference or something or are we just going to talk to each other when we get around and maybe the governor will free up the open meeting Yeah I think that's the difficulty for us is and I actually talked to my friend who works for the league today and kind of asked that question on you know will the state you know maybe suspend some of the rules during this period because it makes it very difficult as a board to you know be on the forefront and you know three of us can't be in the same room together you know not the you know I haven't gotten anything out of that yet other than that the question was gonna be moved but it almost didn't sound like they would change anything but I did ask it because I had thought maybe that it would have been suspended you know amended somehow for us to be Yeah my guess is that they won't The other thing too is you know the residents want to see you all and know that you're meeting and so I think that's you know it's important that we do this and we also could always do an emergency meeting if we needed to next week well certainly I think we just sat up to more than 24 hours and we could do the same thing under the same format and everybody could stay home and we could I created this home account and paid for the monthly a monthly fee so over the month at least we'd like by month and see how often we need it but I think Chris made a great point it's important for the public and federal residents to know that you all are out there and that we're meeting and talking about this stuff and doing regular business as well because you know we still need to So do we want at this point you know do we want to put a placeholder for a meeting next Monday at six and then maybe by Thursday we make our decision on going forward or not based on what information changes between now and then or I'm okay with that Yeah we can do that I mean it's kind of one of those things you almost feel like regardless of what your call is it's probably gonna be the wrong one but you know do we set another meeting and then we just say well it's not much different I think having another meeting at the ready and given how quickly things evolve we'll probably have plenty to talk about it's just checking in making sure we're all still comfortable with the decision as they stand Well is it easier to reach for us to warn the meeting and then where's Gaysnare we cancel it or what's easier for you I just warned one and just hope maybe just one topic on there which is COVID-19 maybe and if that sounds comfortable with that and I can and I would just warn it as that we would just let people know this is something I see it comes up on this is something that we can just do it this way so I'll be right back This is so far to travel man Is that the travel I'm worried about Is this correct It's not and if something was wrong we could hear her This is true And Sear, I don't know if you can see her down there You'll see me in a minute So we'll so right now we will put a meeting together for next So the 30th, March 30th and we'll do the same six o'clock and we'll have one for now unless things change we'll have just one action item which would just be the Well I guess all we could do is we could just table our discussion right Right I don't think you need to table it I mean it's, you're not going to make any motions where this happens True Yep, okay Alright And that's kind of, that's, yep go for a model If we're going to act, we have to go and then somehow we're going to have to be a radio later or something I don't know how that's going to come up that time Well, I can speak to that If it's going to depend what the fine print says Mo I saw that they were giving people 90 days to pay Were they also giving them 90 days to get an extension? They were giving them 90 days to get an extension Yeah, the federal, the federal's an extension to I don't know what the state of Vermont's going to do In the past, when someone from the state of Vermont got an extension, they were still expected to file their HS-122 or their own set of declaration on time So I do a little research on that What it will do is it'll just, it all is going to mean for us I think Mo is that we're going to have more revised tax bills to send out I think that most people in this situation in this economy that are getting a refund and want their money now So I think we'll see some revised tax bills going out but, you know, it'll be just enough to be a payment in that Alright, thank you I filed a state return back in early February and still haven't gotten a refund Alright You got yours back? I don't know, I got the federal, but not the state It's the file of January 1st I have both mined mine within two weeks Wow I filed it in early February and I hadn't I have both before two weeks I did two Yeah, wait Wow Alright The other thing we had in our packets was First, Pam had brought up to my attention last week at something about about, you know animal licenses was the first thing anyways on you know, that normally by April 1st everybody has to have their animal licenses done which usually means that the second second week in March or third week in March we normally do the clinic for rabies and the rabies clinic was canceled due to the virus so it just kind of pushed out everything I know hers is a little trickier Therese and I talked about a little bit because hers is more state-involved and it is local-involved but it just kind of got me thinking about you know, we just had a water and sewer payment that was due on the 19th and you know, we had monthly interest for taxes that were just due you know, so there's not just things that are due now but things that will be due soon that we may want to start thinking of how we'll be able to help people out you know, we'll have our May taxes coming so you know, maybe it's not something necessarily we have to take an action on tonight but what, you know, we need to start thinking about you know, any of the maybe fees or interests that we have control over you know, what may we be able to do with that to help people out with potential late payments or things of that sort I don't, I was just going to say yeah, and I hate to say this because I can't remember a little bit of water and sewer payment last week due 19th, yeah, Thursday okay, so what you could do is for I'm an April to make out on a month-by-month basis so you kind of evaluate what's going on and I think that you know, from now until the end of April, you could not charge interest or penalty on water and sewer bills that are late, that gives people an automatic 30 plus days to pay and you could also do the same as to not charge interest in this 30-day period on taxes, excuse me, I'm looking at taxes I don't think I would do anything just yet to rule the nature of the tax game, I think that's no, no, it's just things to think of you know, that are coming like Teresa's idea of the month make the decision month to month do we know, do we know if we had a lot of folks that didn't make the payment for the water and sewer we've been able to I have to take a look there always is oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah so, one of those things where you charge interest without penalty because the penalty is a bigger charge on water and sewer and I'm not sure I have to do the research I'm not sure we can funky with the make of these two-day tax because it's worked on but at least currently I would encourage you to waive at least the penalty on water sewer, the interest is only one percent and that would be on any any newly current accounts that missed their payment, right? yes not on people that are already going I think just on most recently and we would waive that for at least from what Linley was saying you know, we'll make a motion well, if we wanted to we would make a motion to cover through the end of April, right? yeah does that sound right? that sounds right to me, I think that's a nice you know, thing for people to say if you're water payment right now or if you're water sewer payment right now we're not going to charge about the penalty and possibly about the interest Mo, Dave, what do you guys think about that? water sewer okay so do we so right now we're just talking about the penalty on water sewer so I guess I would if the board's good we would make a motion make a motion to push the penalties for water and sewer to April 30th or starting after April 30th wait until April 30th or May 4th you lost somebody oh okay so right now I'd entertain a motion to waive just want to make sure we get the wording right so waive the current waive the current late billings penalties for water and sewer until April 30th does that sound right, Therese? I think so, yeah so waive the current penalty excuse me on late payments well, yeah, on payments that are less than 30 days old or the missed the March 19th yeah, that's it missed okay Lisa, did we get you confused there? can you hear me? yeah okay, so the motion is to waive the penalty on the March 19th payments until April 30th late on the March 19th, 2020 okay and that's for water and sewer correct? water and sewer payments so just need a motion and a second so moved okay, Whitney has moved it Dave has seconded it I'm sorry, Paul's seconded it he was putting his fingers up in the back I just wanted to give him a he needed something to do I see him in there so all in favor with that hi okay and then I believe, even though it was on our sheet I don't believe that we have any local fee or interest in regards to the animal licenses, right? it's about the state there's the, yeah if you don't pay your dog license so first there is an automatic penalty I spoke to Cam about it to double check to make sure that when she submitted the money to the state that they weren't making her pay the late fee if she wasn't collecting it she said that all the town clerks that she had spoken with are seeing in her email chain that they were all basically saying if you get your dog registered by me first they would waive the interest nothing that the select board would have any power I don't think so, I think that's the town clerk's call the only other one I can think of, Chris, would be if you also want to waive and I probably do interest on delinquent taxes for this month I mean that's already taxes are already delinquent, not once obviously but those taxes were due February 15 right, I mean we're over we're already a month over when this whole thing started we're about a month over on those anyways so I don't know I don't think I'm going to do that Avermoe, any opinion on that one? maybe some of those interest penalties are going to be on more than just that last payment so I don't see maybe I don't see interest charges I agree and I think if somebody wants to prove a hardship of sorts and do an abatement that would be their option from here but I don't think that we need to make that call right, yeah and I don't know if you caught that what Lindley was saying but definitely with any of the citizens that they do have some sort of hardship if they were sick or lost their job or something because of it the abatement process would be the process to go through with that absolutely, the only other one I heard from was a resident with a business owner on Main Street wanting to know if some of the restaurants there sewer water fees are based on I don't see on how many EU's and if you want to do that now for a different takeout I feel like we made these budgets 18 months ago and we really can't deal with that right now I feel like we can't all of a sudden get people a vacancy rate or reduce their sewer rate everybody will pay for that that's a bigger I'm happy to make a plan but how do you feel about that I think I agree with that I think that would be a rabbit hole this is all done we're all going to feel some pain it's going to be different ways that we can keep reducing this and reducing that everybody will feel more pain for a lot of people will feel sorry I guess again Terese that would probably be something that would have to come through the evapement piece of it either directly to the water and sewer commission board or through the taxes or whatnot I think that makes sense I'm with Dave on this we can't just start really, really changing water rates and we'll have to sort that out the other one is more of a question I just haven't been for long enough to see this I have someone who has a revolving loan fund payment and they want to know if the select board would consider accepting interest only payments for a while I personally feel like that's a matter that I would want to kick back to the revolving loan fund committee but I don't know what you have done in the past I was hoping Mo or I'm sorry Mo or Chris who's been on the board longer maybe you guys have some I haven't experienced that you Mo I do think since the revolving loan fund committee was the one who issued the loan initially basically they went over the finances they made the recommendation to the board revolving loan fund committee in a prior town and anything like this we would have kicked back to the committee to look at are you all comfortable with me doing that yes I am yeah I think that it seems like the consensus is to put it back towards the committee and get their way in on it yeah that's what I think that's the right thing to do they made the loan based on what they do at the time and I think how do you feel I think if we made a decision without going back to them who would evaluate this situation yeah I definitely would have them evaluate it and then make a proposal to the board you know for you or what they should or should not do sounds great and then Linley did you get yourself I've got one more thing so Therese we've talked to Pam about the abatement requests that have come in in the past few weeks and I saw an email from Pam that we were holding off on doing any of those abatement hearings until further notice so I'm wondering what your opinion is on that is that seem to be the way to go or the board too you don't want to get people together also if you made a motion at that time you could abate you know any other interests that have accumulated I guess I would ask Pam to look closely at the state statute that outlines the abatement because in some cases and I can't remember right now you only have X amount of days to meet that may not be in this case that may be with an actual tax appeal that's with the tax assessment appeal it's not the abatement side we know we checked into that right away because we didn't want to get hung up one of them though is a resident who feels he cannot pay his taxes and wants an abatement on his taxes so that may come up with delinquent payment I'm not sure if he's delinquent at this point or not I was putting it off as long as she's explained that to the people that have applied then at the time of the abatement the board of civil authority has the authority to abate interest in penalties so you could take care of it all at once even if it was 60 or 90 days from now and I think you know in some cases there's great lines on what's essential and non-essential right now I guess everybody's opinion is a little different on what's essential and non-essential but I would think that something like that where you are able to go back that it would be kind of listed as a non-essential item at this point I would push the meeting until until a more reasonable time unless this carries on much longer than we anticipated if we're talking a month or two out and you can do it get back into it before the next abatement comes out then I think you're good if we're still here in November then we make some difference we're discussing very different things at that point both requests are gray area marginal kind of requests that really don't need to be addressed immediately and then lastly on the COVID-19 discussion Linley wanted a little bit of time if you want to mute your I'm going to mute mine and we're going to try to do a few Linley's alright, why did you mute it? alright, can you guys hear me? nope, because I'm muted alright, can you hear me now? yes I meant to put video on but clearly I didn't alright, I can there you are I wanted to see all your pretty faces yeah, so just I'll do a quick version of this so there's a community group we're calling ourselves Bethel Vermont Strong so there's a Facebook entity to it and also now a website that's just basically a community driven effort intended entirely to assist the town's effort if we go into a state of emergency within the town if we need any sort of emergency effort and so we've been working really closely it's spearheaded by Rebecca Sanbornstone, Cindy Metcalf and myself and we've been working really closely with the town, Dave Aldergetti was great last week in really kind of guiding us through how to get this set up we're using a full incident command structure system so we will mimic in our own structure what the town is doing and we will also report directly to the town or working in conjunction with the town with the idea to aid the town and residents as best we can and so where things are right now is there's a website it's linked on our town's webpage and there's sort of two main or three main things that are happening there one is if you want to volunteer or be a source of aid in some sort you can fill out a form that gets you onto a list that identifies what you're able to give to the town what you're able to do whether that's help with food or supplies there's sort of different task forces that we've created so childcare and senior care food and supply distribution outreach and communication business support and then supplies and medical help and the idea is to get those resources of community efforts pooled into one location the other big piece of that is also if you're somebody in need of help or if you know of somebody who might be in need of help getting them onto a list so that they can receive the help that they need I think a big concern really is the people who are not linked in through the internet or maybe don't have as much connectivity if they know they're supposed to stay home but they need something making sure they get what they need they need to know how to how to access those things and so the recommendation really would be if you know of anybody help them get on this list get them on this list if you have resources and are available get yourself on a volunteer list and then the third component really is in conjunction with the town really getting the factual information out there to the general public and just being a source of helping get that information out even wider in that it's Bethel specific and so we're updating it daily it's called the Bethel fax sheet FAQ also on the website and linked on the town's website but it's being updated regularly with what businesses are open what their hours are when they're changing hours things like that so just really helping people keep up to date because this is changing so quickly actually after obviously it was on that meeting last night so aside from the direct mailer there was apparently the school really put out a great video and Rebecca is feeling like maybe the town should make a public statement so I was thinking about maybe I should craft something tomorrow and put it out on Facebook on our website and kind of just let people know hey you know town's here yes we're working in conjunction with Bethel BT Strong and these are you know here's our website here's the links to health information from the department of health and you know all that stuff so that again we're not giving out medical information as we're not medical professionals but at least letting people know we're here and we're aware what's going on and these are the things we're doing yeah I think it would be great I think especially right now the big needs that we're seeing are foods related and the school is really great food distribution to their known entities and they're even willing and open are super intended to send in a meeting last night that he's open to help get adults who need food supplies they started doing food delivery to families today and he's willing to have the town's food shelf piggyback on the existing delivery service that the school has going so this is where the sort of interconnection of all the different entities doing this work the more we communicate across each other the more effective will be and the better will be suited to help people as they need it as opposed to everybody doing their own thing and working at odds or duplicating efforts so really I think the food piece is the big one right now and getting I think getting the word out to people that this exists for whatever needs come up in the future but if you need food now or if you're feeling like you might in the future get on this list and let people know I think that wouldn't hurt at all would be great okay then I will definitely take care of that tomorrow that was one of the things that we talked about along with um there's always a fine mind we pay appropriations to some people and like meals on meals I'm sure that they have their program laid out and we also don't want to step on other people's toes you know so if we have meals on meals needs volunteers then we can put out that call we just don't want to start sending people to meals on meals if they're not looking for volunteers so I think this is a great way of collaborating and getting people information without pushing ourselves on people right right and the other um the other piece that I meant to say and Theresa alluded to it earlier is there's um there's been a larger consortium that met last night and has agreed that we're going to meet once a week that is about I want to say right now it's about 10 towns involved in it but really is considered sort of the White River Valley region um so we're looking at it as how do we as a region work together just like how does Bethel citizen action and government action work together this is looking at um all levels of action within our region so there were representatives from the school and people involved in different levels of the state and aware of different state actions happening in town government and just across the board we have a huge group of people that are all working in the same direction want to keep meeting so there'll be more coming out of that as well and I think that's where us having meetings maybe every Monday will be following the Sunday night meeting of that group we can update the board with that stuff as well I think that's good also was and I'm sure prison hall and virtual town hall about it um but she did say that she thought the superintendent was doing one about the school and obviously he has a lot of ground to cover feeding the children as long as educating and I said well let him go first and almost together learn from him and I did say that you know select board should participate in or myself not necessarily be the host of it um I'm curious I feel like maybe we should wait a week and think about that but what is the select board I mean I think if you're putting something out within the next day or so to residents we don't need to back it up with another open forum but maybe keeping it on the radar for a week or so from now reopen that conversation next week at our meeting I don't know what others think yeah I think that's a good way to approach it Paul was saying he thought that was a good way to approach it I forget you can't hear them through their mic anymore so he keeps looking that way he said he's a volunteer to be our public speaker oh Paul's a volunteer he are Paul oh he wanted to get more involved he said yeah why not I do want to talk to you about the group more though I've kind of been just a little involved in it just I want to I need something to do we have any further discussion at least for this evening on the COVID-19 discussion point it seemed like you know we kind of went over what who's that hello yes we can hear you I thank you and a lot of the same response is administrative which can be done fairly easily such as the tax department not the legislature that has given the delay on paying rooms and bills taxes and income savings from taxes they have that discretion but they only have discretion that the legislature gives so anything else that requires more and we're convening tomorrow State House with strict local access to vote in person on the comprehensive response bill I'm very aware of the I can hear Paul mentioning how just what a hassle it's all this and what we're really doing here is choosing choosing our voice in a lesser I think everyone's fully aware that all the responses to this epidemic all the responses are a real problem and we've got a whole lot of nonsense we're going to have to deal with down the road but it's a lesser of a compared to you know gloss like I don't think we can tell them that for sure we're not aware of what a hassle I think he's gone yeah it seems like he might have been on his cell phone or something it seemed pretty broken out I think so well if he comes back I don't maybe just keep it on trees to see him walk back in or something let us know yeah I was curious I was hoping he could outline what it is that's in this bill that they're going to be voting on tomorrow we've all heard rumors and speculation I would have liked to have heard what it was actually in that thing right well maybe he'll walk back in we'll um why don't we we can give it a minute to and see if he comes right back instantly oh look at Dave imbibing on his big wine goblet what so while we wait to see if Dick comes back we'll just kind of go back and review we went over both what the board and the town has been doing kind of the first response to the to the crisis here we went over discussion on fees late fees and we made a motion to to do away the fees on the current bills that were due and then Linley had briefed us on regards to the community action group and then Dick jump on and it doesn't look like he's coming back but I think we were just going to do the penalty for now and then I think what we probably ought to do again just like we were talking about with other things with sick time and things like that is you know kind of make sure that we do keep the door open because we don't know you know the direction in which this thing is going to go and how long so um we can always revisit our ruling or update it in May right now we haven't through the end of the end of April for this one so so if the board is good what I'd like to do just to keep moving is I'd like to move on to the next action item and also leave leave the COVID-19 discussion open if Dick jumps back on the phone is everybody okay with that? yeah thumbs up it seems pretty good on that just want to keep going if Dick does come back on we'll stop where we're at and hear him out so the next the next piece that we had the way to say it I think he's back yeah I'm back okay where was I when I was how long you were saying you were buying us dinner and drinks somewhere on a bill and we're curious what's in it okay um what we have to do what happened was the House of Representatives worked the Senate had bought all of already and I'm going to have a lot of people just use it to people what that was was that they put together we knew that we would have to get back to what it used to be for a short time it was just in and out of the script all of which and so they put together a bill with the understanding that the Senate would then work on provisions and unofficially usually the House of the Senate works separately we don't even acknowledge we would do this in this case the House of the House of the Senate was sent in on our reparation and so the idea was to put together a bill that's already been revised and it's a comprehensive bill I'm on the health and welfare committee so what we've been doing with the health and welfare assets largely we have as you know a whole regime of government regulations that cover pretty much everything everyone does and there's health here it's a good idea that we have some veterans so the blacks don't kill people and so that hospitals don't buy all the stuff they don't need and then raise their prices and so on what we are mainly doing are providing temporary wages and it's not to say it's a proof for all it's not that anybody who knows and they watch it are empowered or allowed to wait or modify standing regulations so that for example an entire doctor an entire within the last three years he or she could just go to work if it's three or ten years then they want to realize that it's an extra process that's one of them there are dozens of these kinds out of state people that usually before a hospital stands its operation they need a certificate of need a COA and in this case the health care authorities are authorized to wait for that so if you got on the stand just go ahead and do it and all the cases in particular they're all afraid that for the curation of the COVID-19 emergency we're also sitting on telemedicine and meanwhile the economic development we're trying to not serve so I've just been getting enforcement all the time on the economic development of Canadians working on things like tax evasions to think what rules and deals tax unfortunately for the the restaurant owners and the milling of the hotelers, modules in fact actually those businesses don't pay when the sales tax the customers do and the restaurant owner is actually not uncompensated of that sort so when you pay your rules and deals tax then you have the restaurant election but it's really your pay tax so on the present law we can't just get that money to the restaurant owner the customers are to pay what we can do is go away but the money is typically in the owner's background we can give them a delay and pay them and not have penalties and interest and other rules are similarly the the rules are prior to the in-consensitivity the payment of those is a delay and I don't see I overheard people saying that's going to create nightmare we know that putting that back to normal is going to be a real project for right now the project is going to cause a number of people to get sick are you still there? Yes, we are. OK. Thank you for explaining some of the stuff. Waivers are temporary modifiers, so thank you about it. Yeah, well, I mean, with this whole thing, you don't even have to society ask so much. That's true. And the other thing I just wanted to want to say is that I remember going back the last disaster we had one of the things I did was just get out and around as much as possible and part to gather information. But I think, really, if I accomplish this, just showing up, letting people know that the people they trust with responsibility are paying attention. It's very hard to do that at this point. I feel so isolated for about that day. And it is hard to get out and around because then you're in danger of being in an all-straightly infection. So I just want to let people know that all new legislatures are still in here, still alive, still in Vermont, and still very much taking action. Well, thank you for that. Thank you for calling in. It's very helpful to us. OK, I hope so. And get in touch with whenever you need to. Thank you, we'll be well. OK. OK, thank you, Dick. Any further discussion in regards to the COVID-19 for this evening? Are we real good? OK. Good for now. Come on, we'll make a difference. Yeah, yeah. So next on the agenda was we had landowner hazardous waste event. So we review and sign for that piece. Do you want me to explain that first? Sure, ma'am. OK. If this happens in place, we've got to have food and insurance and we're not the landowners there. OK. To do this, this is the truth, but not forever. I remember what. Good job. All these years, now you want to be legal? No. You understand that? Yeah. Yes, very much. Thank you. So is that being that a motion to allow myself to sign this? Or who signs the landowner signature? Is it your legal operation or your legal function? Doris, what's easier for you? I think it's easier if you sign it, since you're there, I'm gone. OK. So I guess I would entertain a motion to allow the chair to sign on behalf of the town as the landowner signature for the household hazardous waste. So moved. OK. Lynn Lee moved it. Second. And Paul seconded it. So I'll sign that. Hopefully it will take place. We are good there. Where's the next piece here? The ERLF application review and approve. Where did I see that at? It was the application here. All right, yeah, OK. Chris, who is the applicant? The applicant. No. Paul, you're back. I don't see that paperwork. No, I was saying it wasn't the back. The one you were just looking at, Paul, I think is the contract award for the water. I didn't see a thing. I didn't see anything. Oh, OK. Chris, you picked up your packet today, right? I did. And I think Kelly said, I thought she said she put it yours. The original was either yours or in my packet that was in your packet. Well, I'm looking through that one now. The Maskoma bag, or I have a lot of paperwork out here. So I'm looking through that one. I don't see it in the one that you had. And unless she's stuck it at the bottom, I didn't have it in my packet either. Let me just double check here. And I don't, it's not in my packet. It wasn't mine either. Let me just double check the other bag here. It might be, but I have all the liquor licenses. All the liquor licenses. I don't see it in the yellow one. Yeah, all right. Yeah, we do have it. So this is just for the Balving Loan Fund. OK. That's going to be yuck. So yeah, it's for the Laundry Mat. Getting all new machines. My understanding is that as the Revolving Loan Fund committee makes a recommendation for it, then if you approve the recommendation, then obviously we send it to the lawyer who drafts all of the appropriate legal documents. Yeah. So it looks like they're looking for some funds to support the installation costs of new laundry machines. Yep. They should hopefully giving us a listing in there the amount, the term, and the interest rate so that it can be in the motion. I'm looking through it. What I see here, it says the amount approved by the committee was $11,000, interest only at 3% for one year. Is that what you need? Do they give you a term of the loan? Well, it says all agreed to loan $11,000, interest only at 3%. You said one year just for one year. For one year. One year. Interest only for one year. And then start paying. Then start paying principle after that. Yeah, so all agreed for loan of $11,000, interest only at 3% for one year, where the length of loan to be determined at the end of the year based on how they're doing with their second mortgage on the building. OK. That makes sense. The way it should be, you could get a loan payment at the end or, I think, before you have some supplemental. And come in, there's plenty of money in the fund. So I think $11,000 is really a lot less than I thought they were going to be asking for. So I had one or two of the women of the committee who happened to be meeting in my office when I was working and before I went on vacation. And they were very, very careful. Is there something for us to sign here or? No, I think you just need to make a motion to approve. Just a motion to approve. To approve to the attorneys. OK. So I would entertain a motion to accept or a motion to approve the agreed upon loan in the amount of $11,000, which goes to Ryan Crowley and Leah Gonzales of Barnard for the Laundromat. And this $11,000 loan is contingent upon, well, it's interest only for the first year at 3%. And then the length of the loan to be determined at the end of the year based on financials. First loan at the end of the year. Is it what? It's not going forever. They won't let it. It's not determined by them. I think the lawyer's going to hammer that out with that. Because you're right. What we're going to do is the lawyer's going to draw this up so it looks like a whole payment at the end of the 3% interest one year. It's going to be a balloon payment. And they're going to have to come back and renegotiate terms at the end of the year. There's no way the lawyer's going to leave that open under my eye. I think we'll work it that way. A balloon payment at the end of the year, but they can come back to a revolving loan fund committee and renegotiate that into a credit law. OK. That's the final option in the air. Absolutely. And you can craft a motion so that it's a motion to approve the $11,000 interest only 3% for one year with a balloon payment due for the full amount at the end of the year. Yeah, that sounds good. Lisa, did you get all that? Balloon payment for the full amount of the interest. Is Lisa? Yeah, there she is. I have a balloon payment. OK. OK. And when you send it to me, Lisa, I can tweak it if I have to. OK. All right. I've got it all in me. So move. OK. Lindley has moved it. Come on, Moe. Moe's second yet. OK. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. And next on the discussion is the award the bid for the waterline project. And we don't have all the information in here, but the engineers that compiled all the bid results and gone through the bid tabs. And they have made a recommendation for the board. Correct, Trees? Yes. Yep. I got the information this afternoon. So the recommendation is to go with DWTATRO. They were below bidder. The, sorry, with all the add-ons, the base there it was $2,035,000. The engineer's estimate was $2,036,000. There is a piece of the puzzle that Tim and I are going to be hammering out tomorrow with all of Virginia. There's an add-on that DWTATRO bid on. It's included in this price. But we feel is too high of a price. So we may try to negotiate that with DWTATRO. One of the options that all the challenge gave us was to say, take that piece out. And it's just doing the Deco water tower work and then award that to someone else. But I'm not sure how that works with the funding. So I have to square that away tomorrow. But DWTATRO is still below bidder. OK. And I think I gave you a sample and a packet of the letter that I just need to send. Yes, I got that. Yeah. But you don't need anything from us other than just a motion to authorize you to sign. Absolutely. So just need a motion to allow trees to sign on behalf of the town to award the bid of the water line project to DWTATRO. Right? Yes. OK. Sure. Dave has moved it and Mo has set him it off. Yeah. OK, all in favor? Aye. Ayes. OK, moving forward with that. That's good. We have some liquor licenses here. There's a few of them. We have one liquor license for creek house, diner. We also have one here for cockadoodle. And one for the creek store. No one doesn't have a signature page on it. What's the top of it, say? This one's a tobacco license renewal. Right, and that one was major. They used to, seven years ago, this life were to actually approve tobacco licenses. So that just, for some reason, got put in there. OK. Yeah. So I would need a motion to approve the liquor licenses for cockadoodle. Does that not talk to you? Um, no. No, it's not. So cockadoodle, creek store, and creek house, diner. For those, would like to get a motion and a second on that. And we'll sign them. She'll move. OK. Second. All in favor? Aye. That's a pretty signature, because I get an email when we all call it. Yep. So we should be good. As long as Paul doesn't sign it in the disapproved area. You just got to wait until the next one jumps on the board doesn't. That's all Paul. You know, another half a dozen years or so. We also have here, I don't know if this was for us. It was not in the, so there's the application for the special event permit. But I thought, this is for April 16. For what? You still make a motion to approve it, and then if that was one of the third counts, or if it was five. Yes, yes, yeah, clerk. You still have to make a motion to approve it, and then she signs it. I don't know why, but that's the way it is. What's the event? The event is a trivia night at Babes Bar. Babes Bar closed? Currently. Yeah. Hopefully they'll be open again in April for the. So do we want to make a motion with some language, you know, assuming that it's open to the public at that time? You could. Obviously, the control will be in there shutting down. So, but it wouldn't hurt you to add that to it if you chose. OK. So I would entertain a motion to accept Babes Bar's special event permit for April 16 for a trivia night. And to take place as long as the bar is open for service. So moved. OK. So moved by Linley and second by Paul. All in favor? Aye. Aye. OK. And then lastly, we had the console console. So we had the easement request. I see that. They were, I asked Kelly to put in the lawyers right now. With it, Chris, do you see that? Yeah. So in that show, the solid data you wanted to make sure that the town staff was going to insure it for up to $2 million, be it through our attorney's belt, that wasn't an issue, obviously, we had a term. And he worked with them and he felt that the caveats were appropriate. But if you want to disstatement, I think it's a short paragraph that might follow the order. Oh, he's got like a couple of things. He's got like three. Well, there's supposed to be just a snippet. Yeah, wait, yeah, everybody got it. OK, perfect. And so you've already had a 10. And now for you to slide, Chris. Well? No. I was just kind of looking to see what this is going to mean. Because the solid communication is the one who's ranging across the recent fable sign. But I didn't know if he had sent something else with it. Perhaps he just wants the motion, which I can give you. I think he just wants the motion because I don't see anything that would be signed on the town's part. There is, it's page six, the top of it. Yeah, the last page should be page six. So I think we could authorize Therese to sign it. OK. Hereby acknowledges and steps. Yeah, there's something, right? Yeah. Yeah, yep. OK, so I'll entertain a motion to allow Therese to sign on behalf of the town for the easement deed. Looking at right there. Yep. Is there any other signatures required on that page? On this page, well, this page would be yours, not re-published. There's also nothing for then. And then they have to sign on the previous page. OK, that's fine. Then I can all sign it and get one of the leads to go on. So I'd entertain a motion to allow Therese to sign on behalf of the town for the easement deed. Moe has moved it. Second. Lindley has seconded it. All right, those liquor licenses will just go back in that packet. Does Champlain Farm need to have a tobacco license? I mean, if so, it might go, I don't know, those go right to the clerk. So I might go. Don't come to us. Yeah, I don't think we typically see that stuff. I remember reading the question. I was asking if Champlain Farm needed a tobacco license. Correct? If they do, if they do, it goes, if Chris is right, it goes directly to the clerk. Several years ago, a select court used to get done. And the select court had to move tobacco licenses. The state of Vermont changed that. So you no longer have that authority. Well, I know I remember reading not long ago that the town of Sharon had a liquor, had a tobacco license for the trading post there. And they put specific wording in there, forbidding vaping products, which came in under the umbrella of tobacco sales. And they specifically banned vaping materials from the store. Did the licenses used to have a place on them to sign them, just like liquor licenses do? But they don't anymore. You were just looking at that tobacco license. Did it have a place for the board? No, no, no it didn't. There's no second page. Yeah, they used to be that way. So I don't know what to do. Select board meeting minutes from March 9th. And I would just entertain a motion to accept the meeting minutes from March 9th. Unless anybody has any corrections to it? So Moe. OK, Paul has moved it. Moe has second it. All in favor? Aye. OK. Other communications, there was quite a bit in the packet. The Equipment Committee meeting minutes were in the packet. We pretty much talked about those at the last board meeting. But the formal write-up was in there. The DRB had their write-up from their meeting on the 10th. And we also had the budget status report that was in our booklet. Does anybody have any questions in regards to any of those? No. And do we have any other business come before the board this evening? And we'll still be inside. Yeah. Well, I appreciate everybody calling in and able to put the meeting together. It does show now the lights are flickering here. Oh. Did the building just motion out to a turn? Chris, Chris, are you home? Yeah, I'll bring it home with me tonight. And I'll drop it off to you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.