 Good evening. We're going to call to order the Thursday, April 11th meeting of the Capitola City Council Can I have a roll call, please? Councilmember Clark. Here. Councilmember Morgan. Here. Councilmember Peterson. Here. Vice Mayor Brooks. Here. And Mayor Brown. Here. Thank you. If you could please join us for the Pledge of Allegiance. All right. Do we have any additions or deletions to tonight's agenda? Staff has no changes to the agenda this evening. All right. With that we have a very exciting presentation tonight. We have a performance of Capitola Village Sunday sung by Robert Seals. This was brought forward at the request of a Councilmember Morgan who had heard, I don't know if you heard the song or just heard that there was a song. A saw clip of this and we are excited to have what we believe is our first musical performance at a Capitola City Council meeting. So welcome gentlemen. We're excited to have you and to hear your music tonight. Welcome down to Capitola Village. Nature is better than a ghost. And sleazy as the ice in the sky. The gratuitous forts and frisbees. They don't seem to be satisfied. For a village Sunday. By the speed of each day. On a page. Feeling better than before. Capitola Village Sunday. With a heart full of family. The ocean serenades. The sun is setting on the sea. That was wonderful. I don't know if we have a city anthem but sounds like we might know. Maybe we do now. Thank you so much for being here. We appreciate. Thank you. We are so grateful that you came here to share your music with us this evening and we are honored to be represented. Yes it is. Yes it is. If you want to come up to the microphone because people online aren't going to be able to hear you. I just wanted to say we have a foundation called Mother Nature's Temple, a nonprofit that I created. We've been here for many years but we do kids outings. We have a boat out of Moss Landing and we do whale outings. We work with probably over 100 schools. Like today we had 40 kids up on our land. We have 50 acres up out of Old San Jose as well. We are really involved with the community and all of this is very important to us. Thank you. Any comments? I just want to thank JR for bringing the video to me and letting us enjoy this little treat. Thank you. It was awesome. Thank you very much. I just want to say thank you too. I love the sound of that instrument. I'm not sure what it was. Slide guitar. Very beautiful sound. Thank you. I think every council meeting should start with some smooth grooves to set the tone for all the work we're doing here in the community. And thank you for being part of it. And the credits roll. I think there's some directions. I have a feeling we're going to be. Am I allowed to do that by decree? Seriously? I'm asking the attorney. By official mayoral decree, I think we've adopted Capitola Village Sunday as our official city song. All right. We have a song now. I love it. Okay. The rest of the meeting seems not quite as festive. Any report on closed session? Good evening. We had a closed session on the item on the agenda and no reportable action was taken. Thank you. Move on to item five, additional materials. It looks like we have some additional materials this evening. Staff provided one additional email related to item 9B to the city council before tonight's meeting. The email is available for public review online and in the back of the room in our agenda packet. Presentations for tonight's meeting were also distributed. Thank you. All right. We're going to move on to item six, which is oral communications by members of the public. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to the committee for members of the public to address the council on anything that is within the purview of the council but is not being heard on tonight's agenda. If you would like to speak, please approach the podium. Yes, please. You'll have two minutes. We ask that you state your name for the record. I'm sorry. We have three minutes. My apologies. State your name for the record if you would like it included in the record. And thank you. Welcome. Hi. My name is Lisa Murphy to install the pump track at McGregor park. I also worked with Larry Laurent for several years to maintain it. I noticed that there was a fallen tree from this winter storms, a big eucalyptus tree that fell onto the pump track. And that damaged the track but then also the crew that removed it, their equipment, you know, the skid steers and excavators when they're removing the tree damaged the track even further. And so then also, I noticed the skate park, the pad, the concrete pad that the skate park is on collects all the rainwater and funnels it right through the pump track. And so I'm here to ask the city to commit funding to, you know, improve the drainage as well as to direct city staff to evaluate the benefits of a paved surface. I see that the skateboarders also use the dirt pump track and the skateboard wheels break it apart and cause further maintenance issues. And so I just want to make sure that it's like an inclusive facility. We can asphalt it and that way it's we don't have these issues anymore. And it'll just be good for generations to come. And that is it really. So yeah, I'm just asking if the city could commit funding to it. And then I want to direct city staff to evaluate the benefits of a paved surface. Thank you. I need to sign this. I think that's up to you. Okay. Not required, but you are welcome to do so. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, welcome. Hi, my name is Warren Kloppage. I live here locally, not too far away in Soquel. I play basketball at Jade Street Park almost every day. And I have observed that sometimes vandalism happens inside the men's restroom. I don't go into the female restroom, but that's another issue. But I like to point out is there are kids that play on the playground at Jade Street Park. And that's a little bit if something like that is happening, vandalism or destruction of property. There's something else that I want to bring up. I'm not proud of that to talk about, but it's necessary. This is the legal drug distribution by a business here in Capitola Village that was done in the past. That was a Bay Bar in the past. I talked already to some police officers about this and they are informed who the people are who are involved in this. Thank you very much for listening. God bless you all. Take care. Thank you. Hi, welcome. Good evening. My name is Nick Hart and I'm the founder of a local youth nonprofit called Flow. And I'm kind of piggybacking on what Alex was talking about in regards to the McGregor pump track. Flow leads several youth free youth programs here throughout Santa Cruz County. And one of the programs that we run is Flow Skate that happens at McGregor Skate Park. And as well as skating, we also have bike biking, but with the damaged pump track, we have not been able to use that since it's been damaged. Students have even tried to like rally and try and like, okay, can we repair this in some way? Just too overwhelming of a task. We've got some really, really talented riders that completely avoid the track now because it's not, it's not rideable. What Alex and I are hoping to propose and to really kind of make a win-win-win situation is we would love to make this far more inclusive park. A lot of our special needs friends that we work with, we've done separate programs with them and given them an incredible experience and opportunity to skate and to ride with assistance with a paved pump track. We can open that up to everybody, skateboarders, scooters, bikes, moms with strollers, taking their kids around kids in wheelchairs. It could be absolutely incredible and a weatherproof project of that as well. So thank you for your consideration in your time tonight. Thank you. Hi, welcome. Hello. My name is Corey Osfor. I'm here to speak out in support of the pump track as well. For those of you who aren't aware of what a pump track is, it's basically a roughly circular trail with a bunch of pumps in it. It's mainly meant for bicycles, but they're also acceptable when paved to pretty much anything with wheels. And these are starting to pop up all around the county. They're a tremendous asset to the community. If you go next to West Side Pump Track or the one over in Watsonville that recently opened a few years ago, they are constantly in use by people of all ages. It's tremendously valuable. And really the only big problem with pump tracks before was maintenance. As Fowler said, they tend to get torn up very easily, require a lot of attention. But with the rise of paved pump tracks, most of these issues are remedied. They only need a little bit of maintenance once every few years instead of constant attention. So this one-time investment will really pay off for many years to come. And in its current state, the pump track is not usable for its intended purpose. It's somewhat of a wasteful use of public land in my opinion that's highly visible from the freeway. So right now it's not really doing us any good. And I would really like to see that brought back to life so that everyone can enjoy it. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, welcome. Evening Council. Thank you everyone for being here this evening as well in the Capitola community. My name is Kyle Josephson and I'm a resident here in Capitola. And I'm here to speak about the pump track as well. I think that we're very lucky to have such a great community asset here in Capitola that provides some great recreational activities for all generations. And with the current state of the track being a bit deteriorated and the long-term maintenance issues spoken about before, it seems like that a small investment can go a long way in providing a fundamental opportunity for this track to continue being a great part of the Capitola community. That's it for the evening. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, welcome. Thank you, Marilyn Garrett. I don't know pump tracks for young, agile people like this, but that's an old lady who just likes to go walking and have other activities in the park. It doesn't appeal to me. At your last meeting, you approved automatic license plate readers. And I want to thank Mr. Peterson for his no vote. I looked in the files I had about the surveillance tape or living and I came across some articles and good times from 2014 by John Malcolm. And I'd like to quote a little bit from it because I think it applies to the last meeting. These issues shouldn't be hashed out on the day of approval. There should be a public debate before funding is sought. And I think it's a great way to thank the public for their support. We're seeing as Santa Cruz is happening in a lot of communities around the country where there's a lot of federal funding being made available for surveillance technology, government. It sometimes circumvent the normal debate and oversight that might occur in a budget process. So true. My friend who was here last time, she didn't have time to read her whole statement, but one of the figures she had was that approximately one percent of all these photos have taken supposedly for finding stolen cars. Only one percent are where they catch someone. And I was just thinking, I was a public school teacher for 30 years. If I were one percent effective in teaching children, I wouldn't have been teaching. Activists also from the ACLU say outpours have already been used to monitor the activities of political activists. Moreover, at law suit, it's pending against the city of San Francisco by Denise Green who is handcuffed and held at gunpoint after a San Francisco police ALPR mistakenly identified her Lexis as stolen. ACLU has also expressed fears that images could be used to track people. I think this needs to be revisited and have a large public discussion. Thank you, Ms. Garrett. We appreciate your comments. Any further public comments this evening? Hi, welcome. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Kyle. I've been a resident of Capitola area for about three years now and what brings me here tonight is advocating to hopefully have some funding and some effort and energy taken towards our pump track. As everyone has said here tonight, we all enjoy cycling. We like to see a little effort gone towards the current state of it right now. Being in disarray, it affects everybody. We all like to use other facilities that are here in the city and we would just appreciate it if you could just consider that. Thank you. Thank you. Last call for public comment? All right. Thank you. All right. We will move on now to staff and city council comments. We'll start with staff. Any comments? I don't think we have any comments this evening. All right. We'll move on to city council. Any comments on this end? Council member Clark? Council member Morgan? Yeah. Tuesday we did our little ribbon cutting on our B cycle docking station, actually the one that's over on Cliff Drive. At first I just went for the ribbon cutting itself and just to see all the hard work that's been done by staff and so thank you staff. I had no intention of getting on a bike since it's been about 20 years, but I did and it was really fun and so I just want to say if you get the opportunity to try out the B cycle bikes, there are a ton of docking stations around town and within the county so definitely try it out. Thank you. Thank you. Council member Peterson? Yeah. I too was at the ribbon cutting and guess what? I got on a bike again today so it was with the helmet. I found a helmet. Just saying it was it was really exciting so I'm pretty cool to have those out there. I just want to remind the community it is for 18 and over. They're not for our youth to rent and but it was a really easy process and to download the app. It was fun. There are discounted rates or opportunities for folks to use them if they cannot afford to do so. I'd also like to ask staff to ensure that our feminine hygiene dispensers are filled regularly. I brought this up a couple of times and every time I check they are not and I know it's council's direction to continue to have those filled. I'd also like to ask staff if they could respond regarding the pump track at this time. Sure. I can just briefly tell council that I have been in discussion with a number of funders and we can bring back a little bit more options, a little bit more information kind of about what a pump track might look like what it might cost. I think during our budget process coming up here next month so that's okay with the council that's how I recommend proceeding. Great. Okay thank you. Also I'd be interested and maybe in our Friday update to receive some information on how our city can become a sister city. I believe we're the only one in the county that is not set up to have a sister city so I'd like to learn more about that. I'm also interested in learning or knowing whether we can use our council dollars to buy gear like as jackets and things that I've seen other something more formal for us and yeah that would be neat. I know I'm looking at my colleagues here to see if I'm getting consensus overall and then also I attended the RTC groundbreaking event today and I just want to thank Kristin our mayor for her work on the project at Saturday. We haven't seen each other since the Saturday and everything went really well and because of her leadership on RTC and sharing that committee we're really seeing great things take place so thank you to our mayor for that and those are all my comments. Thank you. Thank you. Yes we did have the groundbreaking today for the highway one multimodal corridor project bus on shoulder and auxiliary lanes it's a mouthful every time you try to say it but that is why we had the closure this past weekend to for the demolition of the Capitola over crossing eventually there will also be the replacement of the Mar Vista over crossing there's going to be some construction on highway one I know it's going to take our patients but it's going to be great in the long run and thank you all for your patience over the weekend. I know that there was a little bit of a traffic jam for a while but they were able to get the over crossing demolished and the freeway opened earlier than they expected so a lot of hard work to get that done so thank you again all of you for your patience on that. I also want to take a moment to congratulate and recognize our recreation division director Nikki Bryant and our lifeguard captain Brennan Howard this morning I was invited to welcome the California surf lifesaving association to the city of Capitola they're holding their spring meeting here it's the first time they've ever held their meeting here in Capitola we're relatively new members of the California surf lifesaving association and it's a big deal that they decided to come here for their meeting and so I know that that Nikki especially put a lot of hard work into that and I think it says a lot about Nikki and Brennan and you know our whole team our whole city that they decided to host their meeting here and I believe they'll be here tomorrow as well and hopefully you know they'll be able to enjoy our beach and the beautiful weather that we're having and if that's the case it will be the safest our beach has ever been because there will be like 90 lifeguards on it so just congratulations to the hard work to our staff in that regard. All right uh no further comments we will move on to our consent items enacted by one motion uh by the council unless there's anything that any council member wants to discuss question or poll yes go ahead yeah I'd be interested in pulling my bcoe bylaws for 2325 goals I just had a quick question about that but if I can ask and then we go ahead I thought uh that the group actually generally presents the information and I know that the the climate action plan is a goal that we've assigned for this year and so I'm just curious whether and I know council member morgan you sit on it is this something that generally gets presented to us rather than just in as a consent item I don't think this has actually been done before that's what I thought unlike the art and cultural commission which is common sometimes presented a work plan so this is to my recollection at least is the first time that the seaweed's prepared a work plan and taken into the council I I looked to my colleagues and I don't know if you want to discuss it now Mayor Brown um I'd be interested in hearing from the commission and kind of getting the background on where these goals came from and how we can support them I read through it um but it would be nice to maybe have a little bit more direct input from the members themselves are you interested in so so pulling it not voting on it until we hear from them or do you want to okay that's fine okay so I'll pull the item or uh to be added onto I guess general government and then we can vote on that to come back or what do you suggest sorry can just pull it and have it come on a future agenda right we don't need to vote to make it come back or do we technically you would I mean you could just pull it and there would be no motion to approve it so and then the direction to staff would be to bring it back on a future agenda I'm looking so my my fellow council members here for consensus if that's okay with everyone yeah I actually have a neighbor who's on the commission any he inquired about them coming in talking to us soon and uh so that would be awesome I'd like to pull the item and to um direct staff to come back thank you great any further question or comment on consent I'll make a motion to um approve consent items a and c I can second all right we have a motion in a second all in favor say aye hi any opposed any abstentions motion carries unanimously that'll bring us to item nine a potential ballot measures and I will look to Chloe thank you so much mayor brown and council hi um this is going to be a brief presentation on potentials for the coming ballot um in November so as you recall through your contract with emc research the the representatives from that firm presented polling um results at the march 14th meeting and just a very brief summary the overall results um that they they pulled regarding several different options for a ballot measure um were optimistic voters are generally optimistic and they believe in the city and the way that we're doing our jobs and our performing our functions the majority of voters recognize a need for additional funding for the city the top priorities of voters um based on the survey were determined that maintaining public safety response roads sidewalks and bike lanes and the beach and new wharf were the top priorities of the voters pulled and ultimately there was support above the the regular threshold for renewing the expiring measure f tax and support for a potential bond measure was closer to the 50 percent um range and that sort of measure would would require a super majority so that wasn't as promising let's just a brief oh my god I'm sorry to laugh it's so small I apologize it's just like seems really silly but this is our 10-year budget forecast prepared by finance director mulberg thank you I did not prepare this myself um but the gist is and if you want to go to next slide I think it will just pull up a graphic here yeah if we want to focus in so you've seen this in your packet hopefully where you were able to read it but the idea here is we have kind of a white and then a yellow and a green row the top most row is where we are now assuming measure f will expire in 2027 which is kind of operation normal that's what's expected and what will happen if nothing further happens with the ballot measure the yellow rows in the middle are extending measure f if that were approved so extending the quarter cent sales tax how would that impact our our general fund for the next 10 years and then this last option in green is replacing measure f with a new tax measure at the half percent and so you see how the numbers change and the general distinction I want to point out in the red box is as you can see we're doing okay for the very near future but as you get into years 2027 and beyond things start to look a little bit more concerning especially under operation normal with the measure with excuse me measure f expiring in 2027 I do want to just pause and ask if our city manager wants to add anything okay great so we're going to if there's questions that's fine so moving on options right so we did the polling to see how how much appetite is there in in our likely voter poll regarding approving any kind of taxes now we kind of know where they're where they're at so what do we want to do what does council directing staff to do so there's two primary options as outlined in that forecast one is extending measure f so that would allow for about one point one million dollars a year again that would maintain the current general fund revenue of the existing tax beyond 2027 so that did again like I said pull very favorably with 78 percent I mean that's that's very favorably that's a high margin of support and would still lead to some problematic potential budgets through 2030 which seems like a long time but isn't really that far away so second option replacing measure f with a new half percent sales tax understandably that would double the revenue of general fund revenue right so 2.2 million dollars that's would be adding over a million dollars in new general fund revenue the language that would be kind of recommended if that were the direction council wanted to go would be using language such as replacing an existing tax which could be more that could probably garner more support than using language like approving a new tax you're replacing something that already exists would be more palatable to unlikely voters and this this would resolve the current long-term budget projections of having like deficit and having not as much in the general fund so moving on some other things to consider we do know staff does know of two official measures that are going to be on the November ballot in our local area so we look there's a regional clean water and wildlife protection I believe that's a bond as well part excuse me parcel tax that would be on the ballot if council directs staff to move forward and to place a measure on the November ballot this would be there as well and we did learn pretty recently that a central fire district is putting on a general obligation bond so that would also be on the ballot and there's potential this is a very new information that the school district is also placing a bond on the measure so it's always important to consider what is already voter voters already going to be looking at so that there's not too much of a distraction so we wanted to be transparent about that what we do know so with that in mind we're really I'm just really here to hear from you and see what direction you want to go in based on what I've just presented and what was in the staff report so you have options I'm curious what your thoughts are so replacing measure F with a half percent measure a simple extension of measure F if you're still interested in general obligation bond and I think we have some language we can we can look into but it's really just for me to hear a council's discussion on this so thank you very much and with questions I'm here and City Manager is here to answer thank you we have questions yes go ahead yeah um I was just curious if there was any polling done on how additional like bonds or tax measures on the November ballot would be that's a great question so not specifically regarding these additional that known factors however I I would say that the research is done in such a way even within the two ideas that council directed us to poll for example extending measure F or and a general obligation bond the order of those questions were done very purposefully to show the impact of you've already heard about a tax measure how would you support a general obligation bond as well and that there's clear impact in the the results that that didn't necessarily help someone want to also approve an obligation bond if that I think that no that that's really close to what I was asking you don't have any idea of like the percentage drop with approving two tax measures not off the top of my head but we could look into it absolutely thank you Chloe um can you just uh define replace um what that means what how would that when what years and and all that sort of stuff if you can define the word replace for me that's a great question I think I know what you're um asking so that would mean upon approval by the voters measure F go away and it would be replaced with measure whatever letter we get assigned for a half cent so it would go into effect January 1st 2025 so instead of measure F continuing to 20 27 this would essentially replace it effective January 2025 to start it so it's not a double dip of our um constituents money or exactly okay and um do we know what those numbers look like what's a half cent in comparison to where we are right now with what our constituents pay for measure F do we know the different differentiate you know is that 86 cents or yeah per household or per per soul or that's a great question I I do not have the answer do you Jamie so in general capitol is actually a net sales tax attractor so in other words we receive more sales tax than our residents pay out by a factor of about three to four depending on how you look at the numbers so the increase if you will would be if it's 1.1 million dollar increase if you figure the capitol of voters are playing between a third and a quarter of that so that's maybe 250 to 300 thousand dollars that capitol residents would pay those are very approximate numbers but I think that's kind of gets you in the ballpark okay that brings me clarity because this in fact is a sales tax it's not a direct tax like one would see like on a bond measure if like so Cal put something that it's on your like taxes this is a tax that's spread not just to our community members but people who live throughout the county and visitors and and tourists is that correct yes perfect thank you those are all my questions yeah go ahead let me go back to the half percent versus the quarter percent on the polling so the measure f got 78 percent yes so I want to be clear um at the time that the contract was made and that emc research did their polling they'd been directed to poll regarding a extending measure f and the potential of a general obligation bond so there was no official polling done regarding a half percent correct I thought I heard you said something was only 50 that was the general obligation bond okay um I did some quick math and so if based on what you're saying the 250 thousand dollars a year for all capitol residents um it looks like that's about 25 dollars a year more for a resident and that's like six cents a day so that's what we would be asking for an increase if we were to to replace um since measure so I guess we would be in the replacement I'm trying to determine so measure f is a general sales tax it just goes into the general fund and I'm assuming the replacement would be as well so this would require a majority vote not a two-thirds vote okay uh okay I think that was my only question just confirming that the replacement would be general general tax all right uh any other questions before we go to public comment done okay all right uh we will open this up for public comment if there's any member of the public that would like to address the council on this item welcome back Marilyn Garrett I have listened to the board as supervisors meeting and live in the county in abtos and taxes are going up all that time homeowner taxes sale taxes which affect those least able to pay and we hear of the rich and corporations paying virtually nothing there's something the matter with this inequity also about half our taxes go to the military industrial complex and wars and that means it's being stolen from the counties and cities that could otherwise use that money some of the fingers are astounding like I should have some of the figures but it's like hunger could end with redirecting the military budget that's one thing also the county at their last meeting looking at their general the budget there's been so much spending for the disasters the weather disasters it's huge and the county's not getting reimbursed by FEMA so that's another problem and I'm convinced that the really extreme catastrophic weather conditions are not all natural disasters an excellent source of that is listening to geoengineeringwatch.org and watch the video the dimming that's Gane Wiggington and he it's all factual he lists the patents that Lockheed Martin and Raytheon have to alter the weather weather warfare so that's another thing to investigate and to stop these weather intervention operations I understand the state of Tennessee just in the act of something that's a model to stop these operations so those I remember hearing an interview with someone from share the wealth campaign I thought gosh that sounds good share the wealth I mean I didn't make millions as an elementary school teacher but some do and the last point is some of the money like going for this automatically vehicle license reading cell towers I feel is a poor dangerous use of public money thank you thank you any further public comment on this item seeing none we'll bring it back to council for discussion and a vote any comments we'll start down at this end council member Clark any comments at this time you're always welcome to make comments later as well okay council member Morgan okay vice mayor Brooks I have two follow-up questions I'm looking at the proposed potential language and just have some questions about that so first I'll say that I'm in favor of the replacing a measure F with the new half cent percent sales tax so it makes sense I think we have to be really intentional about what replace means so regarding the potential language is the potential language currently in order of when we receive the poll results there was what was important yes rate is that in this order yes so thank you for asking and I maybe should have clarified earlier this language was worked on with staff our city attorney and EMC research based on the polling results as much as we could base them on seeing as they they pulled the quarter cent but the priorities I briefly mentioned earlier they are here public safety and emergency services repair potholes maintain streets sidewalks bike lanes beaches the new wharf and recreation programs for youth and it goes on but those are in order of how important they were shown to by the city excuse me by the likely voters in the city is it important to say when the replacement will happen what was the feedback from our polar BC M2 or whatever they called you have EMC research I know who you meant I don't believe we're legally required to go into the specifics of when the replacement happens but you'll notice the language here does indicate exactly what it is replacing so replace its quarter percent sales tax approved by voters in 2016 so that's very specific and kind of I believe needs to be in there I I would agree with our council member that's not specific on when the replacement happened that's just really important for our voters to know that it's not a double zip it and so I see our city matthew attorney yeah so along with this will be an impartial analysis and the ballot which I will write which I'll explain exactly that the quarter cent would this would replace the fourth quarter cent and we can say an effective date in there we're limited by number of words on our ballot measure it's not just number of words it's sort of trying not to put too much too many concepts and one ballot measure yeah it's a lot it's a lot of concepts and along that line you are not tonight being asked to vote on this specific language it'll come back to you when a resolution my guess is in June June yeah we have time when you vote to put it on the ballot so can you tell me a little bit then more about the 10 years and where that comes from yes and so this is another element that we're more than happy to have feedback from council on the 10 years so I think generally and we did speak with the research the experts on this it is positive to have an end date that makes voters feel comfortable and not feel like they're being asked to approve something in perpetuity that can also be targeted by potential opposers of the tax and used to discredit the 10 years I do have the language if you're interested of when voters last approved current measure F and it was around a 10 it was in a 10-year time frame so that was like a proven time frame however I will also add that the emc reps mentioned that a kid you know an eight or nine year time frame can be attractive to voters because it doesn't for whatever reason in our brains that doesn't sound as long 10 years sounds could sound long to folks so that was some feedback we did receive so it's really like like our city attorney said it's up for to your discretion and not necessarily that we need official approval now but if you do have strong feelings on that it'd be helpful to know I don't have strong feelings what I have strong feelings about is the multiple other ballot measures that are going to be on the November ballot and I definitely want this to shine through and so I'd be curious in knowing what the I know bonds are different than the others and different than this and if there's timelines and how that all adds up and what that would look like with this language in comparison to like what they're proposing I think that would just help us kind of create better and stronger potential language for our voters to to understand my last question I always say it's the last question but I lie I think they keep many as you want I believe that there is a new bill of something coming up and I was hoping our city manager city attorney can speak to that there are a few potentially well they'll be on the ballot one is a CBRT measure that California Business Roundtable measure which would really dramatically alter city finance it would primarily apply to charges that are not taxes so it would change what a city can determine what city what charges a city can levy on residents so for instance it would change the city's ability to levy fees for whatever use of a facility or rates things that don't necessarily have to go to the voters the methodology for computing those would be changed and it would put it would require that they all be reasonable and could not exceed the minimum cost to the city of providing the service and it would put the onus on the city to prove that it was reasonable so it could it could really impact the city's ability to sort a city's ability to sort of function financially and it also is applies retroactively so any fees and rates adopted after I think it's January of 2022 that did not comply with the ballot measure would have to be readopted so the league of California cities is vehemently opposing it it would it does some other things but that's really the the gist of what could really change municipal finance in addition there are some countermeasures put on one is ACA one it's constitutional amendment one and it would reduce the threshold for special taxes and bonds for I think it's for affordable housing and infrastructure from right now those require a two-thirds vote so it's 66.3 66.6 but it would reduce those to 55 percent if that passes and there's one more that I'm not remembering it but that is the primary countermeasure that was put on can you put that in layman's terms on how ACA one would potentially affect this potential measure or it wouldn't affect this if the council I know that some cities are considering bond measures for infrastructure and it may if ACA one it may make it passes it would make it easier for a future bond measure measure for infrastructure to pass but because it would only need 55 percent of the vote and do either one of those or this in general apply to online sales or do we need to identify that increase in sales tax applies to online sales do we have it is or let me ask that question differently does this apply to online sales for the city and do we need to ensure that because I know we had some questions before it does it does to the extent that online sales providers are complying with California state law it does and so we do receive our district taxes from Amazon for example and other big online retailers um I I guess I the direction I would just start with is that staff um I'm in favor of staff moving forward with looking into the 10-year comparison to the other ballot measures and just making sure that we stand out on this potential language and I think that was the only you answered all my other questions so thank you all right council member Peterson thank you um I want to say that I'm also in support of replacing measure F with the half cent or half percent yeah half cent tax and I want to explain um why I want to do that is because um even if we just extended measure F we would be running a deficit for years uh 2028 2029 and 2030 of approximately a million dollars so this isn't um asking for additional funding to support really growth of the city or anything like that it's just basically maintaining the status quo of services that we are here to offer and are required to provide for our community um I would also say that um regarding the 10-year I see on the 10-year budget forecast that in 2033 without an extension of measure F we would be um back into not running the deficit so I would suggest we consider moving it to nine years and only requesting from the voters what we specifically need based on our 10-year budget forecast to keep the services that we have I think that would be yeah that that's what I would recommend thank you thank you um I'm also in favor of the replacing um I think when people ask even now about city services about improvements in the city saying we don't have the money is the last thing anyone wants to hear they hate hearing it I've had people literally tell me you can't keep saying that the city has no money so I think it's really incumbent on us to um move forward with asking the voters to replace measure F with a half cent sales tax uh in order to ensure that we have a balanced budget that allows us to maintain if not improve our level of service here in the city because as it is I would like to stick with the 10 years because it with inflation the costs are going up construction costs costs of good and services we don't know what it's going to look like in 10 years that's a 10-year budget forecast but if we make this a nine-year um tax and then in year seven everything tanks again we're really going to wish we had that extra year and so I I do think we should stick with with 10 years um but I am in favor of asking the voters to replace measure F with a half cent sales tax that would begin in January of 25 um I think it I think it's what we need to do I think it's important that we take every action that we can to try to ensure that we have a balanced budget and this is one of them um any further comments yeah I too like the half cent sales tax having 2.2 million dollars is a lot better than one however I I think we have to be cautious that with the other bonds out there and the other things going on that we know replacing measure F it sounds like a pretty much for sure thing we need to look at what it will be going after the half percent just a thought I was having I think that it's something for us to do a little more research on and uh see what we can come up with one factor to keep in mind is that measure F expires in 2027 so if this will measure we're to fail this time around we'd have one more shot before the exploration to just do a renewal that helps assuage your concerns to some degree but there is there would be one more opportunity I'd hate to not get anything but yes just just thoughts going through the mind I'm also in favor I'm fine with the 10 year option um unless I guess maybe this would need to be followed up by a little bit more like individual information on the other bonds that are potentially going to be on there um you know how long are those going for things like that what are the costs um I think that might be helpful um and I'm pretty good with the language other than yeah just maybe stating when um oh I guess we're not really talking about that today but just being clear as to when that could be starting for our citizens um yeah I think that's all thanks thank you any further comments no this was just right oh yeah go ahead thanks I just wanted to um bring up again the nine year versus 10 year I um would be happy to vote for either but I would just um want to add a little bit to that with um I think a lot of people are struggling at this time even in capitol and with three other you know requests for government funding the nine year may sit better but that's all I wanted to add thank you thank you I don't think we're voting on this correct this is just direction to staff yeah you don't need to vote one of the things I was just going to talk a little bit about maybe is just sort of what next steps would look like and what staff would do at this point is probably do some reach outs um have some conversations with some of the other jurisdictions that are proposing tax measures to get a better understanding of what they're looking at maybe have some conversations with people who um you know might have concerns about a tax measure and find out what their concerns might look like um and then ultimately come back to you and you know council member Peterson has has a point about the nine years versus 10 years and there is as the pollsters said you know extra year sometimes people put like unreasonable value on that last dollar right when you go from or the last penny when you go from 999 to 10 um and and and so it's something to look about and maybe just keep an open mind about as we do the conversations you know when we come back and we look at it we might say hey you know that might be something we should consider or 10 years is a good number thank you yeah I would add to that that if you know if we do get more information on the other ones that are going to be listed if that is going to make it more attractive then I you know if we can get 10 years out I'd be glad to get 10 years but if we can see that the numbers will look better or it will be more attractive then I'd like to see if we can kind of do like some algorithm of how that would look for us no no any other comments all right the staff have sufficient direction all right great thank you we're going to move on to our final item this evening item 9b warf resiliency and public access project update and I will welcome Jessica good evening mayor and council members I'm here this evening again to speak about the warf next slide so for anyone who may not be aware we currently have a warf project going on um the warf resiliency and public access project key project elements are widening the warf uh doing fixes deck replacement restaurant restaurant excuse me restroom additions um to ensure the warf's long-term resilience we have had kushman contracting on site since september of 2023 and we continue to plug along we have completed the widening the building removal the replacement of the stairs and we are very close to completing repairs to the head of the warf that was completely thrashed both in january and december of 2023 and then we'll be wrapping up the project with replacing all of the railing putting on additional amenities and then doing improvements to the very um base of the warf that first bent has not been addressed yet so the last time I was here we asked for a budget amendment to um complete work under the buildings building removal things of that nature um I have the estimated amounts there that were also included in the staff report and the actual amounts that came out of those change orders with kushman contracting so just a little bit of an explanation on why some of these numbers are different the building demolition also included content removal of both of the buildings um that ended up being really extensive especially in the warf house restaurant if you've ever been in that restaurant you might know why and there is quite a bit to um remove and remediate before being able to return those contents the repair work under the buildings was very close to what was estimated during the last council meeting the head of the warf repairs was significantly increased there was a lot of pilings that while they did not need to be replaced needed to be shifted back to where they were to make plumb at a cost um all of the deck much of the decking was not it was a lot basically we can go very more into details of like why that was off but basically it was thrashed heavily both in january and that was an estimate to what those repairs were going to be and then to get in december next slide please oh so i'm sorry so the current deficit based on change orders that have been executed with kushman contracting is $125,000 other known project expenses these are projected costs so these are very close but not exact cost to what they're going to be at the end our additional um repairs to the warf that have to do with additional piling replacements stringer replacements stringers are directly under the warf decking um over the years we have replaced the decking quite a few times and not related to major repairs in the warf and those things were swiss cheese a lot of them and so more needed to be replaced then we had originally anticipated again those displaced piles both the head of the warf but in other locations of the warf due to our storm damage and then a lot of missing hardware um from the existing end of the warf that it definitely wasn't constructed in a uniform manner and also over the years things get displaced um so the extending project costs that we are aware of at this time to the base project of the warf resiliency project is approximately $180,000 um so there are other potential modifications that can be made to the project at this time some of them are more or less mandatory with the utilities um the utility boxes were attached to the buildings which are now gone and so those need to be reconfigured to have utilities out at the end of the warf um so the estimated cost for those including um hookups for potential interim and perhaps permanent uses is approximately $100,000 so what that includes is the utilities that are already out there that need to be addressed in some way to be in a box and accessible in the future and then three multi utility hookups for temporary use so those hookups would include electricity water and sewer surfaces um two were proposed where the building footprints were and the other one is proposed at the base of the warf near the restrooms um there's a potential cost savings here if we wanted to just do two hookups instead of three of approximately $15,000 we'll get into the total costs of these modifications towards the end of the presentation uh these modifications would be completed by kushman as they are already out there doing this type of work um i'm going to invite uh katie herlihi up here to speak a bit about the restroom as there is some history to the exterior of this facility that is currently installed at the base of the warf okay thank you jessica um good evening mayor and council i just wanted to bring some clarity to the process with uh just the planning commission review over time of the bathroom so on this slide the image on the top left um is the option that was first brought to the planning commission back in may of 2023 um this type of bathroom is called the exilu bathroom and one other option was brought to the planning commission um this is the vertical siding and the other was horizontal wood siding on one of the options it didn't show the siding going around all four sides of the building during that planning commission meeting there was a condition placed on the permit which stated that we shall consider alternative full exteriors for the exilu restroom structures for increased compatibility the discussion at that meeting was really in depth about not only this bathroom but the portland bathroom that was at the end of the warf my interpretation of the condition was that staff modify the entire exterior of the restroom from the wood finish to another finish that was more compatible in hindsight the wording of that condition i wish it was more specific i wish we described it better and really kind of went more in depth um the second image is showing the exilu bathroom as it stands today out on the warf the exterior was modified to a flat panel finish with a in a light blue color the idea was that the change would be more compatible with the surroundings including the colorful venetians and also the homes up along cliff drive so then um the once once the exilu was installed out on the warf we had quite a few calls and questions about the the bathroom so um at our may 27th planning commission meeting the we brought it i brought it back to the commission and fuse architecture was working on the final plans for the warf enhancements and during that meeting we um brought back the image you're seeing at the bottom left this is the pressed bamboo option and then we also brought back paint options and ultimately the planning commission asked that um the city council consider moving forward they understand there's additional cost and move forward as request um recommended that city council move forward with the press bamboo if we could go to the next slide please so here are some other options in terms of color this would definitely be a savings um an overall cost and next slide please and this is just the image of it as it stands today and the blue and the thought process behind it kind of blending with the venetians um so with that i'll let Jessica carry on thank you um so next steps with this project there is also the capitol warf enhancement project that we've discussed in previous meetings these are some modifications of this uh the warf that were required to be completed by kushman notably the lighting and the electrical work and some of the plumbing work will be done by kushman as they're out there doing similar tasks and then the other elements of that project will be procured and installed separately outside of the kushman contract uh that project is fully funded um additional potential change orders are the utility modifications and the restroom modifications mentioned earlier in the presentation and we expect this project to be completed sometime this summer next slide um so here we have our funds allocated to date the two uh the current deficit based on change orders already executed our additional known project expenses the temporary utility hookups which again would be three two near the footprints of the old buildings and one near the restroom wood cladding on the restroom is estimated at approximately $25,000 which gives us a funding gap at this time with all those proposed modifications of $430,000 next slide please there are some potential cost savings that have been identified by staff one of them as mentioned before is reducing the temporary utility hookups from three to two proposing just to keep the two out at the head of the wharf where the building footprints were to not modify the restroom exterior and then also to remove the vehicle runners from the scope and there's um that would give us a projected deficit of $335,000 next slide please so if you don't recall the vehicle runners because they have not really been highlighted very often when discussing this project these are eight foot pre-cheweled um fiberglass reinforced plastic sheets um from benz one so the base of the wharf out to 50 so where approximately where the boat used to be stored um the idea of these runners was to have protection for the wharf from rolling out the dumpsters from the buildings because that caused a lot of damage over the years and so that was the primary primary purpose of these runners um they also would serve to delineate the drive aisle now that we have a wider wharf and there we still anticipate vehicles going down there to drop boats and that kind of thing or any businesses that might end up out there and then it would also facilitate the easier passage of those using wheeled items on the wharf though I will say with the new decking that is less of an issue now than it has been in the recent past um these sheets are already procured they are sitting out at the wharf um but they are $35,000 to install and they are definitely something that can be installed later like I said they're pre-drilled and so it's not a heavy lift to install those at some other time when perhaps we need them more because there are dumpsters or we we can't roll over the deckboards as well as we could on year one for wishes year 10 um but those are something we can easily store at the yard um and we can indicate the vehicle path by signage which is how it was previously prior to the project next slide um so this is location vehicle runners it is difficult to see on this but if you look at the bottom left that is the restroom building they're at the base of the wharf and so it's on that upper portion um delineating a dry vial away from the existing building next slide um so with that the staff recommendation is on the screen this is also the gate design approved by planning commission at their last meeting um the tile work there the pretty um help is not the exact depiction that is being completed by an artist that was recently approved at was that just this Tuesday at Art and Cultural Commission so this is a very good but not completely accurate um depiction of what we should expect the entrance of our wharf to be in a few months with that I'm happy to answer any questions thank you uh we'll start with questions at this end any questions council member Peterson thank you yeah um would the vehicle runner extend the length of the wharf is that am I understanding that correctly so it's from the base of the wharf to where the boats used to be so not quite to the end of the wharf and then I do have other questions oh for the um utility hookups I noticed those are for temporary use is what are the chances that those are useful or usable for long-term use like this is a hundred thousand dollars we're going to spend and that it's going to be useless in two years because we're doing something else or so the intention of their placement was for temporary use just kind of looking ahead what would be the most useful location for them to be now they definitely be used for permanent use if the idea was to do those same type of temporary uses permanently if that makes sense so no they're not like meant to like burn out in 10 years like they're very much permanent hookups but they were designed and chose those utilities in the way that we anticipated them being used in the shorter term right and um I guess they can be modified to some extent if like the layout changes or we're not going to have to completely redo it if depending on whatever we do for the long-term plan is that right correct they wouldn't sustain like a building you know but if it's a trailer versus a truck versus something smaller that those would be able to be used okay thank you um and do we have a cost for uh repainting the bathroom what cost estimate for that so it's uv resistant epoxy paint so the materials are not that expensive my guess is it's under $10,000 but that is very much a rough estimate okay likely under $10,000 I think those are all my questions for now thank you thank you vice mayor Brooks thank you um so I guess the my question is around the budget and really where we're I'm trying to think back to what we have in our remaining budget and what we really have to spend and knowing that there's going to be more things this is what we anticipated with this project right more costs it's going to keep coming and I just think like overall for us to give direction in terms of like what's going to be the cap right where how much do we have to spend or can do we get to continue to spend to be making these adjustments and I think we need to be really clear with our appointed planning commissioners in this and being real about you know how much we can we can we can continue to spend on mishaps of you know the side walls for the bathrooms or getting rid of things or adding things I just want to be really mindful of that so I'm looking to our city manager for some input here so I may have misunderstood the question I thought you were initially were asking kind of what would be the source for the funding but I think maybe it's two part yeah what's the source and how much do I really have to spend in this year's budget and the next year's budget and you know I'm I'm looking at a strategic plan here for you know I can I want to give them or three million dollars to be to be the best but I want us to be really mindful when I don't see here is like our budget and what we've approved and what we've made our goals for for the next years and so forth so how much do we really have to spend whereas the money coming from and potentially how much do we have left after spending this so three-pointed question so the proposal to fund the four hundred and thirty thousand dollars included a number of different sources one was the generator project that we recently completed here in the upper lot where we now have backup power so next time we lose power during a council meeting we don't get to go home there was some extra funding in that um in addition the Stockton Avenue bridge you may recall council put three hundred and fifty thousand dollars into that project in addition we got five hundred thousand dollars for the Stockton Avenue bridge through the assistance of senator layered and staff thinks that we very probably are going to end up in a very very probably going to have a very expensive project at the end of the day for Stockton bridge we're not sure whether or not there's going to be a viable half million dollar project so we're suggesting that we could make a hundred and forty thousand dollars available from that source and then in the facilities reserve there's a balance of a little over four hundred thousand dollars and we could use two hundred thousand dollars for the so those are the proposed sources of funding um you will recall that kind of with the goal process that we went through we were essentially down to our five hundred thousand dollar fund buffer in our general fund so there's no there was no more general fund kind of that staff was prepared to recommend I think embodied in your question potentially was is this it like are we going to be back in front of you asking for more for the wharf and so it's a conversation the public works director and I have had and the answer is this is it that that is the intention I will say with large public works projects there is always a cleanup at the end every single time hopefully it's only twenty thousand dollars that that is the intention with this is this and we've made that very clear with getting estimates from the contractor and budgeting other items that this is the intent is this this is the last time we're coming here asking for a sizable amount of money okay so so let me count count the pots of money here so generator projects you didn't give me a number in that what we're oh 90 90k the Stockton Avenue we have 350 and 500 is senator layered expecting the 500 thousand that he's given to go to the Stockton Avenue project so the the project right now the entire Stockton Avenue bridge has a balance of seven hundred and seventy thousand so with the transfer of a hundred and forty thousand dollars in general fund it would remain six hundred and thirty thousand so that would include the 500k allocated from the state from senator layered and a hundred and thirty thousand dollars of city general and we're essentially borrowing from the 350 that we've already decided on for Stockton Ave so fundamentally we're saying we're pausing on that project because we're taking away from the 350 thousand that we've allocated towards it and then facilities where did you come up so we had four hundred thousand dollars where did you come up with the 200k for that like what are we removing facilities fund is intended to sort of be a fund that's used to help take care of our buildings our built structures so we use that to redo roofs pay for improvements in here things along those lines we built up a balance of four hundred and thirty two thousand the wharf is a facility and so it was making an allocation of the 200 thousand from that fund sort of closed the gap i'm not pretending any of these sources of funds are easy i mean these are hard choices but obviously the wharf is a priority for us and getting the project done is a priority for us so i don't i understand these are hard choices and these are hard things to decide well yeah and i don't know i don't know that it's hard i think transparency is really important for our community to know where we're pulling funds from and what we're going to be putting on the back burner so that we can open up funds to complete these projects going back to facilities will the remaining two hundred and thirty two thousand dollars be used to support any of the short term fixes on the wharf at the end of the wharf because we're right now have a survey out on what we want to do where will those funds come from that's certainly a possibility we haven't identified the full costs so what the costs might look like for a short term temporary uses that is a potential possibility so we need to keep in the back of our minds of where we're going to pull it more money out and so the generator fund is empty there's a little bit left in Stockton Avenue facilities and so my last question is for jessica when you say closing costs you're anticipating twenty thousand dollars is what you just said definitely under a hundred thousand dollars like i said these really large no i know and then that's difficult because but these really large projects often have cleanup at the end just like the last changer we did and then i came back today say actually we're you know a hundred thousand dollars off those that's really real and i wouldn't want to say yes this is the last time i come back to you and then when i come back with the notice of completion i don't want it to be a surprise no i i appreciate your honesty because we appoint our planning commissioners who then give you direction on projects and you know the sky's the limit when we when when you're on planning commission on projects and so i just want to be clear to my point to the person i've appointed like this is how much we have and this is where we're going and what we can expect so um okay those questions we were just on questions weren't we thank you those are all my questions councilmember morgan oh councilmember clark yeah thanks for the staff and city councilmember for outlining where we can get these um we can get these funds i just think it's important or we're almost to the finish line we need to push forward and uh and see this through so save my my other comments for after later yes i did have a couple questions um yes i wanted to ask about the paint so thank you um how much it might cost to repaint the bathrooms in lieu of the wood clotting um then so then there's utility hookups i know we kind of budgeted for either two or three the third one being at the base of the wharf and what like what would those be used for at the base of the wharf the same type of like a brief okay okay sorry i didn't know if there's like something that needed it um and then i guess i think that was oh i was unclear about the can you bring up the thing from the report about uh from the Stockton bridge project the amount that the 140 we would be taking that from that project yeah that's correct and in the 6 30 remaining if approved by us at a later date to continue the project like will that immediately halt the project so right now we're in an engineering phase of the project i'm going to give you all the information i have about it and then i'll look over at Jessica and see whether i did it right um but we're in the engineering phase of the project and the idea was that we were going to fund diverters to potentially protect those legs of the bridge it may or may not be a feasible project it may be that at the end of the day the only feasible long-term project is a clear span bridge and so right now we have the funding to complete the engineering work and that'll get us to the next phase then and beyond that i need to turn to my public works director that's correct so the intention of the amount that we got from senator or sponsored by senator layered was to complete this engineering study complete design projects and build diverters it turns out we can't build diverters we can still use that fund to do a different capital project so we're not losing any money in that way um and it's highly likely that that's where we're going to end up okay and then i guess in regards to the cleanup costs why wouldn't that be considered in the like original bid for the project i guess maybe when i mean cleanup costs it's just there's always something where i estimate that the a changer is going to be a hundred thousand dollars it ends up being a hundred and three thousand dollars so it's just things that when you actually just like loosen yes okay um okay i think those are all my questions thank you really appreciate your work i have one follow-up um you said that the five hundred thousand dollars from our senator can be used on another capital campaign project did you mean that or do you mean it can only be used on stockton bridge i'm sorry a different capital project for the bridge thank you okay i do not want the community think that we can shift five hundred thousand dollars to to another project thank you all right i have a couple quick questions um and one is kind of unrelated but now i'm curious when you're referring to a clear span bridge you're referring to a replacement of stockton bridge that doesn't have any barriers to debris flow underneath it correct and that would be the reason for replacing that bridge right okay thank you um the hookups we're referring to the bathroom that's already there is that already hooked up so we're talking about two or three in addition to that or okay um the cweb improvement items those are all paid for the installation is all paid for we don't expect any more change orders in that regard correct so that project has a 650 thousand dollar budget consisting of monies from the city and then monies from the fundraiser and the whole scope of that project fits within that budget is completely funded so we don't expect any more cost of rights in that regard this is all okay um and then this is kind of just more hopeful fun stuff is there any chance that we expect that this project will be done by the wharf dwarf on july 28th likely not perhaps shortly after but july is would be very very ambitious yes let's make it a goal it would be fun there was another hopeful note that we did strike in the staff report um is that we are still working with callow e s and femo on some recovery so there is the possibility that some of these costs can be offset i think it's not insignificant possibility um we didn't really want to highlight it because at this stage it's not a certainty but if we want to strike hopeful notes uh there is the possibility that some of these funds could be offset by callow e s due to the damages we got this this december and then one one final question if the cleanup loose sense i think our authority for city manager to make change orders without coming to the council is what 25 000 dollars well i think the authority actually is higher the problem is is that we'd be out of budget now i'm so for the total project so so for example if you guys authorized us at 430 and then took you know two items off of our kind of cost reduction list we may be able to clean it out without having to come back to council um or if we authorized right now for you to take another 20 000 dollars out of the facilities reserve and then if it's more than that you'd have to come back to us but otherwise we'd authorize you to move forward so we can just be done yeah the one thing is is though you do the council does need to close the project out right isn't there a formal notice of completion of the council files yes there is i would say if we were fully in budget that'd just be a consent item yes a little bit of time worth considering all right any further questions okay seeing none we will open this up to public comments are there any members of the public that would like to address the council on this item welcome good evening mayor brown and council um i want to thank the uh the council jamie jessica katie city staff and the community for working together is supporting the wharf enhancement project um this has been a long project process and um with many community meetings at over a thousand survey results and responses um see we see what's main goal is to work with the community and was to listen to the handstands that they wanted funded by their donations um these enhancements that fuse architects has illustrated um it's going to make the wharf absolutely amazing it's going to be including new lighting benches tables trash receptacles viewing stations of new fish cleaning station and some mosaic art features that Kathleen Corsetti um and other local artists who work with her have designed um the final phase of the enhancement and these artistic features and we wanted to make sure and that the community had an opportunity to participate in that um to bring that to together to have an opportunity for the community to come together we needed a place to assemble those we reached out to my little guyer and brian kirk at the mall and they have donated a public space for us to use and the city has reached agreement on so the community to come together and put together these mosaic art pieces so that everybody feels like they're a part of the whole project together um and with that you know we'll make sure um i know the city will be doing their notification but we as a group will be reaching out to you know senior centers uh the mod in the mall um the schools and um other local agencies to make sure that other people are involved in that whole process so it's a whole community process when those artistic features are put together on that um so please watch for those dates that are coming up um i know Jessica's working great with um our Kathleen and her group and there's going to be a schedule that we posted on when the mall i think they'll call the studios opened up and for the people in the community to come together and kind of assemble those final things so just in closing you just wanted to appreciate i know it's been a long process um but i think you're the winner in the whole thing it will be the community with these enhancers are done on the amazing worth that will be hopefully resilient for years to come so thank you so much thank you hi welcome good evening karin hannah um um primary my primary primary concern right now is the bathroom um to say that it blends in with the venetians is works in that one photograph you showed but it doesn't work in reality and um the people in the venetians and a lot of the people up on the cliff and everybody else there weren't a bunch of phone calls about the color because they loved it there was like what it when are you gonna when is that the box it came in is is this a primer that they had to put on it for for travel it it just is completely out of place so um uh the alternative of painting has some severe drawbacks in in longevity and maintenance because soon as somebody figures out that you can you know carve into that brown paint and it's blue underneath you know we're in we're in trouble and there's clearly not going to be a lot of money to repaint that every five years or six years or whatever whatever it takes so the expenditure at the beginning of it would make a lot more sense than trying to maintain it over over time um there was a savings for ordering it painted um rather than woodclad so that that was cheap a cheaper model so that amount of money should be taken into consideration from all i've attended every single meeting and of course working with cweb there's really not much reason to have a hook up in the beginning we already have talked about simplifying the entryway and not making it busy and cluttered with a lot of things so i don't think you're going to be having food service or something else down in the in the front of the wharf so there's another savings there so um uh one of the things that the people who came and did did the surveys and came to the community meetings was don't make it look like disneyland don't make it look like la don't put a lot of color out there we were thinking color in the beginning on the light poles and things like that all of that got eliminated everything got toned down and i just think that the the the paint is just not going to do just as to what the whole project should look uh look like so i hope you will consider um allocating the full 25 000 on the um restroom cladding thank you thank you any further public comment hi welcome hi i have a number of questions and it just seems like um the wharf the way the catastrophic storms and the ocean rising all over coastal communities in trouble all over the planet it just seems like the ocean's going to take it i mean wharfs are lovely they're tourist attractions but are they going to be viable like this so i i just wonder the money going into that and then is there i drive on stockton street i have a chiropractor in capitol and so i'm out on stockton street is i'm trying to picture this and i did not look through the whole staff report is there an existing bridge or is this a project for to put in a stockton bridge can someone answer that or where i go to look if i have this question i'm thinking other members of the community may as well so we don't do back and forth during public comment but once your public comment is complete we can ask a council member and a staff member to address it yeah i i would appreciate that because it seems like capitol is so lovely the way it is you know this queen city of capitol going back to camp capitol and the history and putting in a new bridge if that's what's happening sounds like it's going to damage that kind of beauty of the existing city and cause damage down the line so i'll listen for your explanation so i can get a picture of what what's actually on the board here thank you thank you any further public comment seeing none we'll bring it back to council uh and i think i'll start just real briefly uh by sharing the existing stockton bridge there's already a stockton bridge we're not putting in a new bridge uh it begins where the venetian hotel is and it spans over the soquel creek where the creek runs into the the ocean so it's already there you might not even notice it unless you're on the beach looking at it yep right there in that picture the the painting on the wall right next to you that's stockton bridge yep okay all right uh so i'll bring it back to council uh for consideration uh deliberation and a vote and i'll start at this end this time council member clark julia could we bring up the slide talked about things they wanted to take out i'll save you now oh yes i'm sorry um well for the first of all the the hookups um i think if we don't have enough starting off and we try to put more in that could be more problematic so i think we need all the hookups that we can get as for us to come back and do it would probably cost more money wood cladding on the restrooms i think it's really important that we we see this through they got 25 000 when we're so close to the end um doesn't make sense like our speaker said we we got some money back from ordering the wrong bathrooms and even with a little bit it's gonna cost extra it's gonna keep the look of the wharf consistent from the project from the front to the end so i think i think it's really important again that's that's all i have to know yes i think that we should see the project through staff has shown us that it's possible for us to get there so we should get there thank you council member morgan yeah thank you um so i um i would just disagree on the hookups i think focusing on two at the head of the wharf would be more important that way we could jump down to the 85 um that would then give us our 25 if we're gonna do the wood um i would definitely um reserve the vehicle runners for when we find a time that they might be more necessary see kind of how um that goes with use of the wharf and um whatever ends up happening out there um and so i'm just wondering with i'm not a quick math person so i'm just looking so if we did um that 35 000 removed for the vehicle runners um could also potentially go towards the wood paneling for the restroom um which then now that i'm thinking about wood how easy is wood to scratch and damage and how much upkeep is that over repainting if that's also a concern um so i me personally i'm not married to either idea like 100 percent um so i'm interested to see what other people say too um but i'm just kind of trying to get a grander scheme of like if we did if we take out some of these things that are not super necessarily what that might leave us with and then if there is the option of allocating maybe that 20 000 buffer from facilities or whatever we need to pull from in order for Jessica to push through and get our cleanup done and everything and not have to come back to us for each little item like that um i would be interested to see how others feel about that as well um i think that's uh yeah quick rebuttal about the wood siding the type of wood that they're planning on using is a strong bamboo so it holds up probably better than the paint that's going to hold up okay the type of wood that they're using okay cool thank you vice mayor briggs um i'd be interested in looking at um our amendment to the adopted budget to include the extra potential hundred thousand dollars that you are anticipating jessica um i think that we could increase it by removing taking out the hundred thousand while there's 140 left on the stockton avenue project add the hundred thousand in so that would give you five thirty so the adopted resolution amending the 23 24 to allocate amount not to exceed five hundred and thirty thousand um now that is a whole lot of money to to allocate extra two but to your point of not going back and forth um it allows you to for those closing costs and all those other things and i would agree that we only need the two temporary utility hookups that we need to include the wood cladding on the restrooms you know i'm partial i don't the kushman the runners i don't even know what that even means or when we're going to have a garbage truck out there i don't know and um but i trust you um so i can almost i would be interested in getting your staff's response on allocating those extra dollars to complete this project in in in its entirety and if you feel that that's necessary or would be helpful for you um to to add that extra cost or add those extra dollars in today i'll answer from a public works and a finance perspective um i wouldn't barring any other natural disasters between now and the end of this project i would say an extra hundred thousand dollars to the ask from the staff report would get us to the end of this project okay um and and i only introduce this to to my colleagues up here because i i'm hoping that fema will come in with some reimbursements i'm hoping that calloway yes will come in with some reimbursements i know staff has worked really hard with them we've all been had the opportunity to meet with many of them so um it'd be nice to see that i'm looking to our city manager for his take on my suggestion i think let me just try and make sure that we have staff understand it correctly the first is is that we would take the temporary utility hookups down to eighty five thousand and only do the two at the end of the wharf we would do the wood cladding you would remove the vehicle runners for the time being install them later but that would take our funding gap to uh re eighty i see three fifteen one because the funding gap because we're getting rid of or we're keeping the 25 000 we're getting right at the 35 000 we're bringing the hundred down to 85 right did i do my math wrong i don't know i'm surprised i'm a spreadsheet here 125 plus 180 plus 80 85 plus 25 25 plus 10 524 no we're not including that 10 524 are we no so this is the sum of these the changes so i think we're 15 okay four 15 no you said three we were both wrong i'm saying 380 that's what that's what this x-off spreadsheet it may be that the it's a negative the 35 k for the vehicle my calculator apparently is very broken i will not be helping my daughter with math this evening so i'm getting 415 yeah 125 plus 180 plus 85 plus 25 is 415 with a 35 000 credit minus 30 you're adding 35 it's a 35 000 credit 380 oh i see what you're saying okay i see okay so we were all right you were all right you were all right i i like to go with that um okay so this is yeah this was what i heard there was the 380 in sort of approved changes and then you were also prepared to let's see if i can find it quickly here um what move the budget amount from the facilities fund up by a hundred thousand dollars so there'd be we'd essentially end up with about a hundred and fifty thousand dollar contingency for that i was gonna say we only need to move an additional fifty thousand dollars to make us have an additional hundred thousand to be able to use so we don't need to move the full hundred we just need to move 50 i'm hearing i'm seeing yes from our public works director and yes is good with me i want to see this project through um i i mean you're finding continuous cost saving measures and i know you'll continue to do so um i think you'll listen to finding commission on any other feedback i i heard katie say you know it was a mistake on you know with with the bathroom situation and so it looks like there's constant communication happening and we're all in this together so if all you need jessica's another hundred thousand i would be willing to propose that so the final number jim you're gonna hold it up slowly for me i'm in the back that we would adopt a resolution amending the fiscal year 23 24 adopted budget to allocate an amount not to exceed 430 which is what was already in 430 right i think what council member brooks is saying is 530 increasing the facilities fund allocation from 200 to 300 000 dollars no because we just said that if we want to have an additional 100 000 after the value engineering i think you guys are yes this would leave us with a hundred and fifty thousand dollar contingency i think council member brooks was proposing a hundred thousand dollars i think council member brooks is proposing 150 no she was initially proposing that we end up with a hundred thousand dollars that is able for wrap-up but because of the value engineering we had 50 left over so now we only need to move 50 which still leaves us with a hundred thousand dollars so that's 430 which is what was in the original request right wasn't that well yeah right there 430 but it's not for the same reasons yeah that's just magic like it's ironic that the number showed up as 430 it's ironic it's not you don't need to change anything in in what we're requesting in the resolution yeah in the resolution it's just the way that you give us maybe just like two like a minute and a half two minutes just to make sure we're the goal here is to have a hundred thousand dollars left after these changes correct correct okay give me just one second jim help them out 480 oh okay so 80 okay yeah because we're so it's 480 that's right 480 and the amount from the facility's reserve would be 250 thousand dollars facilities reserve terrific yeah yeah see this goes up 50 000 the total amount goes to 480 and that's to cover up to a hundred thousand dollars and that's correct closing costs as we're now referring to but we get it back we don't spend a hundred percent get it back okay the goal not to spend all that money i would like to move forward um i'd like to adopt a resolution amending the fiscal year 23 24 adopted budget to allocate an amount not to exceed 480 thousand dollars in funding for the wharf project for additional project expenditures with notes that we will be reducing the temporary utility hookups we will be adding the wood cladding to the restrooms and that we will not be installing removing the vehicle runners from kushman's scope that is my motion i'll second i'll have a second yeah i have a comment i know we're not yes go ahead we have a motion in a second for the sake of discussion go ahead um yeah i'm just personally not prepared to reallocate the hundred and forty thousand dollars from stockton bridge project for these purposes as in my mind stockton changed it to only 50 000 confirm that so the motion the motion on the floor is 140 000 from stockton bridge and that right that's what i thought okay um because um and i'm not going to approve this motion for this motion personally because in my mind the stockton avenue bridge project is a safety and disaster preparedness project and the wharf enhancements are aesthetic and bells and whistles on the edge of this project not to say that they aren't important and i wouldn't love to fund them but i'm not prepared to take it from what i consider a safety project thank you i'm going to comment um so i i hear what you're saying councilmember peterson um and it if you heard earlier about where the funds are coming from we have facility funds left over we have stockton avenue funds and we have the potential of getting money back um the this is not about not thinking about safety we have the opportunity to continue to work with our our state officials this is our opportunity to continue to work with our federal officials and to really work with FEMA on this so i want to be clear to our constituents here that this isn't a matter of me choosing one or the other there's still additional dollars um that we can use to continue to fund stockton bridge a stockton avenue bridge should we need to and i want to be clear with that that there's there's still that opportunity um i hate using the word shell game but sometimes this is what it looks like um but there's still funds um in facilities and other things that lie there and so if we do see with the um the report back on options it's not going to stifle that project so that's why i felt comfortable um allocating these dollars this this evening thank you yeah it's like to uh yeah go ahead jump in there and echo that uh we probably will hopefully see some funds coming um from the disaster the second one and public safety is always on the front of all of our minds and i don't believe that uh changing are taking some of the money now to finish our progress north it's going to jeopardize the public safety so uh just wanted to make sure i got that out there any other comments any other comments all right okay we have a motion and a second uh on the floor all in favor say aye aye any opposed no any abstentions all right motion carries four to one with council members clark uh morgan vice mayor brooks and mayor brown voting uh yes and council member clark voting no and no abstentions peterson i'm sorry um peterson voting no uh and no abstentions with that uh we're at the end of our meeting thank you all for being here tonight uh please take care of yourselves and take care of each other the meeting is adjourned