 Hypothesism music and how we internalize it being debunked or supported by studies currently reading the mind to manifesto Unfortunately, my answer to that one is short. I don't know I don't know if it's being debunked or supported. I doubt I haven't heard it's being debunked But I don't think it's been supported either. I think that a lot more work needs to be done in the I Think I think we have to do a lot more work in newer psychology the relationship between newer psychology and our states of consciousness and the relationship between that and our senses and What music exactly does and and I? Think I think it's too early. So I don't think That it's that it's being supported or debunked. I it makes sense to me But that that should mean nothing to you You should read it everybody who hasn't read the romantic manifesto should read the romantic manifesto so Rans hypothesis of music is fascinating. I'm not going to try to recreate it here Because I haven't read it in a while and I don't want to just misrepresent it. It's fascinating. It's interesting I think it's true, but I don't think it's being proved one way or the other And I certainly don't think it's being debunked. So for those of you interested in in music for those of you interested in music and kind of Psychology or or psychopastomology or or the study of the brain that would be a great field to go into all right Okay, Tommy says will you be speaking with Saga on anytime soon? I've learned about you because of him I don't expect to I mean I've spoken to him twice fairly recently So I don't I don't expect to speak to him anytime soon again Let me say that one of the things that is really being fun is as I travel around the world It happened to me with two people in Hungary Two people came up to me at my talk and said I discovered you because of Dave Dave because of Dave Rubin or Or I discovered you because oh somebody had listened at hood Alex Epstein first on Dave Rubin and then discovered me So Dave Rubin has been a massive source for people to discover Objectivism discover me and then objective is a because of it. I got a tweet today on Twitter From a guy I think in Canada who said that I had inspired him I don't know how he discovered me, but I'd inspired him To read a new end and he had just finished Anthem and he had tears streaming down his cheeks And now he's gonna go and read everything by iron man. So those are the those are the great stories that You know, those are the great stories out there that motivate me and keep me going Let's see what else So Sagan I'm sure I'll talk to him sometime. I don't think anytime soon I'm hoping to do something with Dave Rubin in the summer maybe maybe the longed for discussion with With Ben Shapiro, maybe somebody else will see we're still discussing it, but hopefully we'll do something Something with with Dave Rubin, but it really is amazing. How many people have come to me and ultimately to objectivism because of of Dave Rubin so so that is great. And of course We'll keep trying to have conversations with With lots of other people Somebody asked if if I'm gonna have the fall that the philosopher who you don't remember his name on Again, that was I think Greg Salamieri. And yeah, I'm sure to have Greg again But what I'm probably gonna do is I am going to every Sunday when I'm in Puerto Rico or when I'm home I would somebody and and my goal is to interview Objectivist intellectuals people you don't know By the way, there's an excellent interview with Redshree Agrawal Redshree Agrawal is another objectivist intellectual came from India again Not an American who was just interviewed by Dave Rubin so you can find it on the Rubin reports on YouTube and she's excellent She's a professor at the University of Maryland so My intention is to over the next few months to interview a lot of Objectivists Objectivist intellectuals, you maybe don't know of or have not heard that much about Psychologists, I've got one neuroscientist that I'm hoping to have on the show. Who's an objectivist Philosophers and of course, I will I think a lot of people enjoyed Greg Salamieri. So I will definitely have Definitely have Greg Salamieri on the show as well In the future, so expect to see you know I'm hoping that my show becomes a platform to introduce to you Many of the objectives intellectuals that are out there because there's a lot of talent out there There's a lot of good people out there that you might not know of and you know, we had we had Brad Thompson on We've had Greg Salamieri on we've had Ilan Junon and I intend to have a lot more in the future And people like the interview format not my favorite, but you guys seem to like it So I will continue to do those Luca, oh five Swiss Franks. Oh, right. That's more than five dollars A little bit more not that much more. All right You're on why do you seem to be so worried about? Nationalists like Orban and less so by the leftist collectivists like the ones running the EU in Brussels Why do I think for the same reason that Lena Peacock in the dim hypothesis believes that that the Disintegrators are impotent in the long run and the descent all the disintegration does is it leads to what he calls the misintegration Theocrats on the right, and I think he's absolutely right. I view the right in The form of nationalism or religion if often often comes together in the eastern Europe the right that is that is Nationalist a tribal and and I would add racist is Right now much more dangerous than the left not because if the left got into power they wouldn't do horrible things They would but it but the left is limited By the fact that people don't want to be poor the people don't want to People don't want to to starve. You know, there's only one Venezuela today. There's only two other really communist regimes in the world North Korea and and Cuba at most of the world has figured out that It doesn't work and and they flirt with it and then they change their minds and they flirt with it And then they change their minds. So you see it all over the place I mean chili had a great run with free markets They voted a couple of times for socialist and the socialist kind of made the poorest that quickly they they corrected course And they voted for somebody more on the right It's not that the person more on the right is going to give them less of a capitalism But he's not going to make them quite as poor as the socialist would Brazil in Argentina for the last 20 years had leftist politicians that basically devastated their countries Wham they they they're switching to the right and reforming their economy and doing doing good things now Well, that's sustain. No, you know as soon as they get comfortable and they get feel guilty a little bit again They'll they'll shift to the left The left is in power. That's my point. The left is in power and life's not that bad I know, you know, I hate to say that right but the left is in power and the fact is you Europeans are pretty rich People in France and Germany and Scandinavia are not struggling that you know, I I go to I go to Sweden And I go to Denmark and I see lots of BMWs in Mercedes-Benz's and and and nice cars in the streets And and people people seem fairly satisfied and happy and doing well It's the right now. I don't see the left in Europe as being So destructive is good to destroy what we have in Europe right now But if they do and and I think it's going it happens in some places then Then people won't tolerate it and then the question is what will replace it and what would replace it is The right and and this is this is the point. I think the demopause. He kind of makes up. I'll put it in different words People want meaning People want meaning People want purpose People want to feel like they belong and the right gives them that The right gives them that it gives them a cause it gives them something to believe it. It gives them a nice fuzzy feeling And I don't think the left does I think the left is You know, you can see it on American campuses right now the whole free speech issue I think I think we won the free speech issue. I think they're just gonna slowly go away Because they were defeated the left was defeated The old left has risen up and said, you know, this this these attacks on free speech are ridiculous. You got to stop it And you don't come back in a few years, but for now look at Berkeley Ben Shapiro spoke at Berkeley We did a free speech event with Dave Rubin in Berkeley. No problem Yeah, I was stopped by a T-Friend Kings College My guess is that ultimately Kings College will Establish itself on some kind of platform of free speech and being speakers like me back I don't think the left is sustainable I don't think the left is if you will an equilibrium solution It's too nihilistic It's too nihilistic you see the old left was because the old left believed in something they believed in socialism and communism and Utopia of the proletariat But the new left doesn't believe in anything The new left just believes in destruction and tearing things down and destroying it in complete complete Disintegration and complete and clean nihilism the new left is pure evil You can't gain political power with pure evil. Look at what Obama Obama, you know looking back Obama was not as Damaging to America's I think a lot of people think he was really bad He was really bad in the backlash was such that even a candidate like Donald Trump got elected So Because people don't want that people resent that people reject that people want to believe in something Why do people vote for them because they want to make America great again? They want to have some even They want to have they want to be able to dream about the greatness of America. They want to be patriotic They they want to have something good around them So they buy into all the bullshit that is Donald Trump But the reason they buy into it is because it's done in the name of a touchy Feely something that that unites us all together and makes us feel good so I think the right in that sense is is is is More dangerous more appealing more attractive to most people Most people are not nihilists. You've got the left today is nihilists now the left in Brussels and in other places are just a bunch of Power-lusting bureaucrats. They're not socialists. They just want to run your life because they like running your life They're not even ideological. They don't believe in anything and Yeah, they're bad. They're horrible. I despise them. But what's the alternative the alternative is Oban Oban in Hungary has basically suspended free speech not once in a while a demonstration at Berkeley But there's no free speech. You try opening a newspaper in Hungary today. No, you're gonna be shut down there is no newspaper that Can or will attack Oban all the ones that did I mean shut down. There's no independent television. There's no independent media in Hungary it's all gone and What you're seeing is a rise in collectivism and in tribalism and the use of tribalism to Protect power Right. So the use of Muslim immigration migration to Europe as as an excuse to take away the rights of Hungarians This is exactly what's going on the excuse of painting a source. Who is a bad guy? He's a leftist. He's a bad guy supports a lot of evil causes. He's not a good guy, right? But but to paint source as the ultimate devil a Jewish devil by the way, which is important in Hungary a Jewish devil because it plays directly on Antisemitism but to portray him as a devil just like just like Trump portrayed illegal immigrants as devils or the Chinese as a devil It's all the same tactics and by doing that To anybody who gets money from so this is some people who get money in Hungary from source are not leftist They're actually liberals in the classical sense because they're fighting for free press Which is something so as supports in Hungary So it gets all confused but urban is He is destructive to our cause. He is destructive to the cause of liberty and he has a massive weapon in his hands And he will chop you down The left can nip at us But the real chopping is done by the right Yeah, I think it is so somebody's asking is it okay to to portray Trump or Obama as a devil I don't think Trump is the devil. I don't think he's competent enough to be the devil But Obama certainly is absolutely. There's nothing good about what urban does. Hungry is a poor country It's not coming out of poverty It's completely subsidized by European unions that the Germans are subsidizing Hungary There would be no economic growth if the European Union extracted its money from it Nothing urban does nothing urban does is good. So there's no free market in Hungary It's not like he he promotes capitalism, but yes, your press is free speech, but for most capitalism Which maybe you can say about the Chinese government, but it's not even that It's an every realm in which liberty is important urban Urban crushes it and he uses the scapegoats in order to do that So urban is like Putin and there's nothing good. You can say about Putin or over Putin is probably better because he's probably more competent urban is stolen his family his friends his associates have stolen Huge amounts of money from a poor country Money that came in from Europe Yeah, I mean, I don't care that your source is a Jew, but urban does somebody saying he doesn't care Urban kids that's your source is a Jew and the Hungarians care that your source is a Jew and Antisemitism is rising dramatically in Hungary and I think all across the world the Western world as a result of the rise of the alt-right so yes, I think you can portray urban as a devil, but You know, George Soros is not that powerful. George. So it cannot stop me from speaking urban can urban can so You know If if George Soros was president somewhere then maybe I would call him in the devil Maybe then I would be very very afraid of him But you know, he's like the Koch brothers on the left He funds a lot of causes that it the down the left just like the Koch brothers fund a lot of libertarian and conservative causes And and he believes in it and I've done a whole show on him and you could you could actually go and read some of his articles And read some of the things that he has brought capitalism. He has my he is my enemy Here's my enemy, but the way he has portrayed is the same way the Rothschilds were portrayed It's the same way evil Jewish bankers have always been portrayed It's a it's a way for the for the right to latch on to the anti-Semitism that still exists in Europe and Obama's Pad of that part of that and he uses that and he uses the slum question as well The Muslim migration that happened in 2015 none of those Muslims wanted to stay in Hungary None of those Muslims would have stayed in Hungary. Nobody wants to stay in Hungary The Hungarians barely want to stay in Hungary half a million Hungarians have left just in the last few years And these are very very patriotic people who don't typically leave, but things are so bad in Hungary There's such a shortage in jobs in Hungary the future is so bleak in Hungary because of this prime minister That people are leaving and yet he wins by a landslide Because he's a demagogue and because to some extent he's rigged the way votes are counted But you know and because he is tapped into this nationalist xenophobic anti-Semitic You know thread within Hungarians. By the way, I discovered that that while urban was presenting himself as this He no no Muslim migrants were gonna We're gonna settle in Hungary and he was gonna resist the cause of the European Union to do that It turns out that he that he folded and and he accepted the allocation of Muslim migrants to Hungary. It's about a thousand of They are now have been They have been what do you call it settled in Hungary quietly without letting anybody know But they're there, you know, he plays both sides of this He doesn't want to piss off the EU. Why doesn't he want to piss off the EU? Because without the EU the economy of Hungary would be in the pits completely in the pits Now, you know of the left evil, of course the left of evil. I called them nihilistic the nihilists They're destructive. All they want is to destroy Ken is claiming I didn't say anything bad about the left. I mean how Stupid and ridiculous is that I just did I've been saying it all the time But somebody asked me between it's okay Sam asked I know and said that conservatives the self-proclaimed defenders of capitalism more damaging than left. Is this still true today? Yes, absolutely absolutely The people who affiliate capitalism with religion the people who think capitalism is cronyism The people who think capitalism is the same as the mixed economy the people who think that that that capitalism They don't know what capitalism is but but pretend to defend capitalism and then attack free trade like like Some conservatives are doing right now under Trump ism the the people who defend capitalism but hate immigrants The people who defend capitalism but want to limit legal immigration into the United States even for people who have jobs h1b visa These are the enemies of capitalism and then more damaging that left because they undercut us They chop us off at the knees. I can deal with the left. I know what they're trying to do They're not on my side. Everybody knows that my enemy we can go head on with them But the right supposed to be my friends, but they're not They're not they're going after me constantly All right now I talked about migration into Europe mass migration into Europe in and I've Expects my the fact that I don't believe that is a good thing or that is something that should be allowed but to turn to turn What's his name? Now I've forgotten their prime prime minister's name urban into a hero because of that is absurd I mean That is the urban presenting himself as the savior with the civilization is absurd He wouldn't know worse than civilization to bit him It's like Trump claiming he knows what America's neither of them know what either one of those are so Urban is a fascist and needs to be condemned as a fascist. I'm not for Muslims in mass emigrating into into any country, but or mass migration into any country silly not of Muslims, but I do believe in more migration. Yeah, I believe that that other than Muslims if Ukrainians want to move into Hungary or Poles want to move into Hungary, absolutely. They should be allowed without any restrictions Yes, I think that would actually be a good thing and There's actually no restrictions today to move within there. What's it called the Schengen zone of Europe? All right, I think we're done, but basically to answer the question I believe that the fascist or the the Stake or the alt or the however you want to place the right I believe the right is Is is is the real danger in the future just just as as Leonard Peacock predicted I think nationalism combined with religion is probably the way it's going to go It's probably the most dangerous thing we're facing in the West I if you look at if you look at Poland if you look at Poland if you look at Hungary If you look at the latest elections in Austria I think that that combination of nationalism and In religion with a little spinkle of racism is going to be the death of the West The left is is going to capitulate just like the left Because the left as I said doesn't believe in anything Doesn't believe in anything the left to win has to believe in something they won when they believed in communism They don't believe in communism anymore They believe in neilism they believe in what is Antifa Antifa believes Antifa define themselves as anarchy Which means they don't believe in anything that just means they believe in smashing and destroying and pulling things down that will never win Disintegration will never win Nealism will never win. So what's the alternative the alternative ideally is capitalism is freedom is individual rights but But you know that that is still not a dominant position anyway, I wish it was so they are There are three options. There's Some of collective is on the right some form of neilism on the left and capitalism I Am not on the right. I am not on the left left is neilism right is collectivism And I'm I'm a capitalist And I think that's what we need to fight for and I don't think we need to make alliances with the right or make alliances with the left and since so many of The people you listen to constantly attack the left. I take it upon myself to attack the right And and to make sure we differentiate between Donald Trump and Iron Rand between between Auburn and Iron Rand between the right and Iron Rand So I want to make sure I want to make sure No, I don't underestimate people say I'm underestimating the danger though. I don't underestimate the danger of the left I hate the left. I despise the left. I confront the left every single day. I'm on university campuses I interact with the left more than you do The left is in the immediacy of the moment. The left is clearly more dangerous. The left is destructive I keep saying it's destructive. That's what neilism is. I don't get you people who think I don't criticize the left I talk about you know in all my talks my talks are all about capitalism and the enemy which is statism which primarily is practiced today on the left so You know It really is absurd, right? All right Yeah, all right So I'm done Thanks, everybody for listening. Don't forget to subscribe to my YouTube channel. I'm on the cusp of 9,000 subscribers I'm hoping by the end of May to get to 10,000 And the goal of course is 100,000 so tell your friends and get people to subscribe to my YouTube channel Those of you did not support me on the chat with the super chat feature Please go to patreon.com or to paypal.me and support the Iran book show on either one of those or both of those platforms Your support makes these shows possible and makes some of my speaking engagements possible I don't get paid for a lot of the speaking I do So to the extent that I continue to do this is going to depend on the financial support people like you Provide All right, we've gone for over an hour. I think that is enough. I appreciate your questions I'll try to do another show like this from Tbilisi if I have time Not sure what time of day that will be because I'm going one hour for the east Have a great day. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for those who contributed on the super chat and I will see you Soon don't forget by the way to share share share share Share YouTube share on Facebook and when it goes up and blog to our radio share that as well. Bye everybody