 All right another story that is developing and this is kicked off a bit of a hornet's nest with on Sean Plunkett show this morning when Michelle Bogue Took a swipe at Whale oil blogger Cameron Slater ever listen to this some particular bloggers I know who charge people not to mention them Tell us more Michelle. No because he'll just have another go at me Cameron Slater not making any comment. Oh, well Do you pay Cameron Slater not to say nasty things about you Michelle? I don't offer that. I don't in fact even if I did pay him He wouldn't stop saying nasty things about me. Okay. Do you know people whom Cameron Slater has said if you pay me this money I will not say nasty things about you. I know people who pay money to Thru an intermediary through an intermediary to a particular blogger so that he won't mention their name Well pretty strong claims there because effectively what Michelle Bogue is saying or inferring is that Cameron Slater Can be bought that you can pay him not to say nasty things about you And if you want something nice said you pay 300 bucks to an intermediary So what does Cameron Slater make of it all he's on the line now good afternoon cam Hey, so has she got you dead to rights? No, she's making shit up as usual So what you're saying what she's lying Yeah, she's lying But there's not a single person who has ever paid me not to write anything about them And if she knows of somebody like that, then I want their name so I can invoice them Because she appears to be saying that this is done through an intermediary So that supposedly supposed to be meaning Cameron that you could then stand back and say I've never done this No, well, that's not true You know, I don't I don't take money to not talk about people. I mean for goodness sake I used to get calls from the ninth floor In the beehive where they'd say please cam. Don't say that about that cabinet minister Please cam. Don't say they're not just say to them. You know gf y basically Your listeners can work that out. I'm not going to say those words on radio Do you or have you ever offered good coverage to anyone in return for money? No, I write what I want to write about a Anything that takes my fancy and if something's poos then I'll say it's poos you can't pay me to say something's nice if it's not and You know, I'll never certainly never gonna say anything nice about Michelle Bogue Well, I mean certainly not now, but okay, but you're saying because she was pretty Clear what she was saying this morning and and and Sean gave her the chance Yeah, we went but you know got it to be very clear about it So what is it and you're saying that she is lying? Yes, and what motivated by what? That's not news from Michelle Bogue What you're saying she's a serial liar Well, I've said that on radio live before she had him a complete meltdown once and streamed down the the airways While Mike Williams sat there chuckling because she was upset because I called her a poisonous lying scumbag I didn't disagree with it People listening I mean to be honest and people listening to this Cameron probably think this doesn't reflect well probably on either of you Oh, I don't really care But Michelle has got Delusions of grandeur. She thinks she's still relevant in New Zealand politics But the reality is that she's a really old smelly Hunk of rancid mutton dressed as rancid mutton. Oh I think that I can understand people having a crack at people who are their Political enemies if you like but what it sounds like there that sounds deeply personal and offensive, doesn't it? Look, you know the history of our family and Michelle Bogue goes back quite some way She keeps having a crack and and I keep defending our family She she may actually think that I hate her but look, I don't hate Michelle Bogue But I tell you what I would unplug your life support to charge my phone if what she says is so wrong Cameron Slater if she's effectively then defaming you. Why don't you sewer? Well, look, you know, that's for cowards running off to court. It's for gutless wonders Who want to make attention for themselves? I've got big broad shoulders. She can say whatever she likes it It doesn't it doesn't matter to me What it does matter to me is that she spends every waking moment thinking about Cameron Slater I don't spend any moments thinking about Michelle Bogue She has been a past president of the National Party. She has been involved with major core record Major major corporations in in this country. She's been involved in all sorts of stuff It is you can't just write her off as a nobody surely Well, I can I can write her off on the basis of what I know about her past You know, she was the first visitor when my father became the National Party president She was his first visitor on the first day. He was the president She rocked up with three full-scap pages of names of people that she demanded board positions for You know, this is these are facts. They're indisputable She the cheek of the woman to actually do that when she'd been running the campaign of the of the person standing against my father Just shows the utter Capacity of duplicity for her and then, you know, there's just been a long-standing campaign She doesn't matter very much. She might have been the past president of the of the National Party But here in Bill English have got the have got the record for the lowest ever polling of the National Party So, you know, I'm happy to stand on my record. She can stand on hers, but she won't be very tall All right So what you're saying is that we know lawsuit from you you're saying she's wrong But obviously what we do take out of this there is there is a lot of bad between Cameron Slater and Michelle Bogue will be right back