 Welcome to Toffy TV. I'm joined by Andy. We are previewing a six-pointer. Let's call it what it is, Southampton versus Everton, St Mary's, three o'clock. This Saturday is the place to be or not to be, as someone once said. Most likely. Andy, without getting to talk sport on everything, this is a big game for Everton, isn't it? It is, but I don't want to go, like, because I listened to talk sport yesterday and the same, we could be relegators. I'm not going to be relegators, let's be honest. But we need to start picking up points now, don't we, realistically, because 11 points from 11 games that put us for 38. It's not clever as it is, but this is the type of game that we should be winning now. If we want to get eight, seven, six, these are the type of games. Top half. Yeah, top half forever. We need to win these type of games. Southampton's still, obviously these didn't place you badly against City last weekend, but it's still a bit shell-shock after getting shell-act on that. The manager, supposedly not under pressure, but from the outside he is under pressure, I guess, from the media. So we need to take advantage of that. Our manager is under pressure on both inside and outside. That's what it seems like. But yeah, we need to win this game. But we have got a better side if you turn off, that's the problem. You don't turn off any games. I mean, a way on the south coast, last 11 games, three draws and eight defeats lost a blighting to me, so not a great place for us to go. Southampton last time he won there was 2015 and we beaten 3-0. It's been a bit rubbish playing Southampton away, particularly since we took the manager off them. That seemed to not make them not like us. And they've had good results against us. We should have left them. We should have left him there and got someone good. It's a tough game this one, it really is. For lots of reasons. Southampton have obviously got plays like Nathan Redman do on his day as a handful. Danny Ings loves a goal against Everton. Yeah, they've got teams that were proud to have some set-pieces. So Shane Long is still there. He'll come out for us and run the channels for the last 20 minutes and all that. So, notoriously, not a great place for us to go. But from our perspective, obviously the mid-field is a big issue for the manager. We've lost this, like I've said before, on a final where. This first judge mid-field in his own mind would have been Govaman and Gomez. Maybe Delfin, including us. And we've got no Gomez now till next season. No Govaman till probably January, February. Delfin was clutching his hamstring at the end of the game at the weekend. We don't know whether he's going to be available. He hasn't trained so far this week. It's me and the trained. Excuse me, it's me and the trained. He was clutching his hamstring as well. He was walking out. That was it, that mid-field. He's walking out holding this hobbling round on Sunday where he's still brilliant. And that'll be potentially where it's won and lost, I think, because obviously they've got Rameo in there, who's what he is. James Wall Pradd, who's full of energy in there. Two of his arms strong as another one. So they've got good legs in there. We have to match them up. Obviously Rameo's not quick. He's just going to sit in here. There's two ways you could go with this. They played two ways, Southampton, obviously. I think they'll play a way against us. They can either be very high pressing and start to try and play on the counter. Or they'll sit deep, like they did against Man City, beat themselves hard to break down, then obviously sendings, and maybe mousaging up. I think the last time he won, he was the one who scored the goal. He won 1-0. They need him back because he is a match winner. But apart from that, they haven't gone forward today. They should defend in a part of moments of the Leicester game. They're not overall too bad. But I hope they play a bit more. They're trying to attack us. But then they're under pressure because they haven't won a home for what. I think so. It's all well and good. We're worrying about them sitting deep and us trying to break them down. But I think the fans will want to see them playing the attack. They don't want a reaction. You lose 9-0 at home. Your next home game, there needs to be a reaction, doesn't it? You know, they had two... Unwinnable games. Luckily, or however which way you look at it, they had a city of 8-1 a week after that. They played very well against them. They were on the island or not. If they lost both games, if you can look at it like that because it was the way they expected to get anything out of either game. But they'll be looking at Evan and thinking, Evan, I've won away all season. So this represents an opportunity for us to get three points here and move a level point with Evan. From our perspective, we need to be looking at it and thinking they haven't won a home all season. They've been hammered 4-1 and 9-0 the last two home games. But we know it'll be a tough game, but it's a game we can win because we're better when teams come at us and you'd like to think them being a home team. You look depressed, and that is Ralph Hasson-Hutl's game when he was at England's start and he played a very high-pressing game for 2-2-2. They haven't really done that at Southam, so I think he's realised he hasn't got enough talent to play mostly three at the back. We said before off camera that he did go to a fourth at the start of the season, but they usually play three at the back and the wing backs provide the width. I hope they do press, but if they sit in like that, they shouldn't treat Evan like they treated City, but obviously you don't want to lose that game with Ralph Hasson-Hutl. So would you sit in against Evan and move lost games this season when teams have sat in? I suppose if you were in, possibly you would look for a basis to start. I've heard that on one of the shows when I was in the Premier League, they did their lowest ebb this season, losing 9 million, and it's time for them to bounce back and a point might be a way to start. You might look at it and go, don't lose, that's a starting point. Don't get beat, put a bit of press, put a bit of passion into your playing for once you get your own fans. Now we might look at it and go, Evan are quite weak aren't they at the moment in terms of mentality, but if you get a goal ahead against us, it's not stockings up. You had a conversation before about Evan, and I honestly, whether you're a Marko Silver fan or you're not a Marko Silver fan or you're just indifferent to Marko Silver, I honestly believe he plays every game to win. I honestly think if either being a little bit more conservative, away from home this season, we'd have probably been up by up the table. I say he does play to win every game, but there's a disconnect between how we play and the plan on the pitch but that's a different subject. I agree what you're saying is when it hasn't worked away, why hasn't it gone, if you listen to any other manager, if it doesn't work for a long time, you go back to basics. Play on the counter, try to nip some points, a couple of draws on the counter. We had two more draws, we beat in the top ten. Exactly. So get back to basics, maybe not send the full backs as I, maybe sit the defenders, whatever, just try something different, but we play the same way, no matter whether home or away, who were against, maybe not Man City, because we could sit deep against Man City, which is, let's be honest, sensual, you don't want to get annihilated, do you? That's where Marko, the disconnect is the philosophy's principles, but probably away from home, we should have been a bit more pragmatic, play on the counter, go a bit more direct, play Darmwall, Ian Richardson, I can't sat there, I like it when you've got movement against three at the back, because their whole width is going to come from the two full backs, and let's be honest, that Southampton, the manager being the way he is, he's going to send them a bit, he's going to send them higher time. Well Berton's going to be out isn't he still, I think it's the final game of his three match back, so he's still out at the moment. So, I mean, I think he's a good player, Darmwall, that's not a sad. Yeah, he's a good player. He's obviously getting towards the... But what you do, I think what everything needs to do is, we've discussed this before, is not to have orthodox wings where they're playing in the wing channels, let the full backs play big, get them in a bit tighter to the striker, and get Richardson up against Jan Vestergaard, Jan Vestergaard's a big 6 for 5 centre off, he does not like to be moved around, get Richardson, don't have him against Bednarich, don't have him against Jack Stevens, and I think Richardson have some... I play Richardson off the left in this game, and then we don't usually discuss first 11, but I play Richardson off the left in this game and get him cut in on that right foot, cos, to be honest, he's our only consistent goal threat when he's on... I know people have got on his back this week, but that's the type of player he is. Has a heart as the same, everyone loves a heart, so... Oh, I mean, yeah, you're talking obviously about the nonsense article of Paul Joyce's written. Well, we know where Paul Joyce is coming from that week. The team, he supports Shrike, he gets booked for diving. That there's very little... And consistently diving, and that not led the article. Where's the article about how mannau o Shalala, the damage in Liverpool? Well, my question is, he's authorised and says you've got an article within Evan, maybe, and that's a different subject. For Evan, it's poor from Evan. There's no fighting Evan at the moment off the pitch around the pitchers, in terms of trying to mould a media narrative, cos Dunham has gone on talks, talks, you know, basically the sun. There seems these suns, the victim now. Did he say that Evan was going to get relegated? He said Evan and Cuppie were relegated to you. Cuppie. Well, I suppose, at the moment, it's hard to argue with Gannis. I don't think... If we go on to our January, then, all right, fair enough, yeah. But then even so the talent's still lit. There's still enough talent there with a bit of brains to win a couple of games. But the longer you leave, the current situation, whether the Marco can turn it around, then obviously I don't believe so. And then you're going to have to get a new manager? I look and just... I think Evan is still more than capable of finishing in the top eight. Easily. What's your five points off the top... But what I would say to that, which kind of funders my own narrative, is that we don't look capable of putting two wins together and at the moment, until we can put, do you that, you won't? So therefore you would have to say that at this moment in time you wouldn't definitely back against Evan not being relegated. No, I know that. We know, we watch them and we know that there's talent there. But someone like Durham who, hey, he's trying to get a reaction. Of course, that's exactly what he's doing. But if he doesn't watch Evan all the time, and he just sees them with 11 points after 11 games, he will go, well, they're in trouble, because they're where they are for a reason. The fact is, if you look up the league, the one win off 10th or 11th or whatever. All of those teams are in trouble. Well, that's to be honest, because apart from, I think Chelsea will probably get the, I guess, they seem a bit more, people forget about Chelsea. People go, oh, Frank Mampard, he was doing this great job. They got half the team, won a championship two years ago. So it's, there's a perfect blend for Chelsea. But in time, the little rest of them... At the moment, it's off for a flying, Liverpool are the thing, you bought Leicester and Chelsea a flying, but then there's a... The seven, six points then, behind. Everyone else is six points behind. There's not really any good teams in the league. I'm having with a modicum of consistency. I'm not talking about winning every game. I'm talking about winning three, lose one, draw one, three. We're asking for to win 10 on the bounce here. We're asking for just a bit of consistency. I think having to be fine, but... It has to start with a game like this, and if Marco hopes to stay in charge or whatever is going to happen to Marco, he's going to have to win games like this. Because the away form, when the next manager comes in as well, the away form is actually what's going to keep them in the job, it's the away form which has cost-managed the jobs in the last couple of years, because Cumin couldn't be away from home. That's been the difference, isn't it? It'll be the difference with this fella. Everton's not only Liverpool have took more home points than Everton since March, which is bonkers when you look at it, when you consider how good Man City is. But we can't win away games. There's a mentality issue. We're horrific away from home. Any manager that could come in from Everton or Marco Silva, the big thing for him would be getting some away wins. And this game at the weekend representing opportunities to do shop. I mean, just looking at Southampton have won 11 Premier League home games against Everton. They've only won, which is only beating Newcastlemore in the Premier League, which is 12. You've got a long time beating Newcastlemore, having lost down there the two teams. We've lost five of our last six away games at Southampton. 11 of Southampton's 12 Premier League wins against Everton have come at home. 91.7%. Fantastic. Southampton have won just one point in there opening five home games. Yeah, they've been poor away from home this season. You did quite well at home last season to be fair. I like Arsenal, but they're sure to confidence. They're sure to confidence. Something's got to give, really. A draw isn't really good enough for Marco and saying no. I also think there's performance aspects here to this. Again, at the start of the season, I said, one draw around, but you would have took it, wouldn't you? At the start of the season. Not now. So when you look at the team, but then it's the style of performance that the performance was absolutely terrible. There's a disconnect between them and feel me attacked still. Do you still haven't got any blends at the moment on how much you've losing by now? It comes as we bore players in the summer to blend and unfortunately we haven't got that blend because they're all injured or whatever. Yeah, that is on Marco, but there's still no style of rhythm to the team. And this game here, you need to, this is a game where I think Southampton probably will sit deep. So we need to see those ideas about to spread the team around and that for me involves having Alex O'Rubian rather than the Icelandic master there. Well, we've got to have, we have got to play for me. We have got to have legs in midfield. I'm not saying I'll get sick or something like that. No, not for me, because I think Snyddlin will play. Can't have him in the Snyddlin. I think Snyddlin will play. But I think him and Tom Davis will be fine Snyddlin because Tom Davis then has got the licence. All Snyddlin needs to do, and I don't know why, but when he plays with other players, he seems to start drifting up the pitch, he's sitting and screening the back two. That's all he needs to do. But then your full backs go on them. Three drops in between, you make a back three, then that's all you need to do. No, but that's what we need. If we've got that movement in midfield and legs. And that's how you go up and call-gates instead of a key. You've got a call-gates. Everton are windless in the last eight Premier League away games. Three draws, five defeats. That's disgraceful. However, ten of our last 18 wins on the road have been against sides, please 15th or lower, which obviously is what's all done tonight. That's not great though, isn't it? That is why Everton are finishing top six because they don't win away games against teams around us, which is why we're not. Theo Walcott has been involved in six goals in his last four appearances against Southampton, scoring five and a six and one. First goal for that funny bats. It's his old club. He's done well. He wasn't great all weekend, but he's done really well. I thought he took them off too early. I think it's pace at the game, especially when they can't be bothered chasing people. I think the team has to be pace-y. I know probably Towson's going to play because he's turned into Levan Dowsky in people's eyes because of a couple of something being sport. I think he's done like half a loo, and he's not done anything wrong for me. He's not perfect, but he's scoring goals. He should be in the side. Moise Keane's got to wait in the inside of it. Maybe Moise Keane's game will come, nor it's your own. See what frustrates me with Moise Keane just quickly on him is that we've played him with the static midfield. We haven't played him with Tom Davieson and with a Wobie, who actually thread balls through. It's like, well, he's back out now, and I can't believe that all of a sudden people are looking at him and going, he's not really your option. I'm going to say that he's a donkey and all that. We know what that is, but that's just idiotic. Anyway, to get the best side of players, same with a Wobie, same with Davieson, you need to have players round them. That's what it's all about combinations. I try to say this on Dom. We don't work because there's a combination. Dom just stands, but they don't work. You can tell me how many times. So you need a combination that works. And a Wobie, and I think Keane would work, and a Wobie and a Charleston seems to work as well, because Charleston makes them run in behind, and a Wobie's got the pace and speed of thought to release them. And a Wobie is, even though I thought the man has to start with the correct team and play him on the wing. But I thought Sunday. It was the right team to play. And I thought a Wobie had to play there just to make sure we could get the others in the field. But now, obviously with losing hands, it's a big opportunity. Now he goes back into the field and he stays central. And if that means that Charleston going out of the left well, then so be it. Well cut, assuming at the moment, he has to be. He's won with pace, he's playing well, why wouldn't he be in there? I think he's going in for his centre forward. He's done well in the last two games. A sub, what the manager did say in his press conference, he's going to come on as a sub. I don't think the manager rates him, I'm going to be honest with that. Whether rightly he's right or wrong. The manager, I think he, well saying that the manager changes his mind doesn't he? But I think that's what happens when you've got no consistency. You're looking to stumble on something that works. And we've tried different things. You've tried too many things. We're throwing a lot at the wall. Not in terms of formation, because I think we've played one different formation. No, but he's throwing different things. So that's the one thing I don't think people can criticise him for. At least he's not just playing, because there was that period of four defeats. He played the same players basically every game. Now I don't think anyone can have a go. He's dropped Michael Keane, he's tried a Wobie inside, he's tried Tom Davies, he's tried Hullgate in. Moise Keane's probably the only one who can probably count himself unloch i gŵr. I'm not bothered about him bringing Moise Keane along slowly. I've got no problem with that. The only problem I have is done play him as a right winger in a 43-1. It's just not going to work. But whatever. I think I understand why managers are hesitant to bloody players who are not experienced, because they make mistakes. When you're under pressure, you might not be all... I would as an impact, so I haven't made a team, but whether he does or not. It's energy and excitement. Excitement, and it's a fresh face for the players. There's fear as well. It's a fresh face for the players. The players look and go, and it's a fillip for other players. For you likes a Benny Beningame, for you likes a Lewis Gibbs and people like that who look and go. He does get it, he is getting a chance here. I've just got to get me, whereas if they're never getting made the 18, you start thinking I've got no chance. Let's see what happens. It's a difficult dish, because we don't know what's ever going to turn up. Sadly, and probably sadly for the manager as well, that's been the story of the season. Decent at home, terrible away. Against the team, that's poor at the moment in Southampton. It's a must-win game. Especially for the manager. For me, it's a must-not-lose game face the former. We have to take something, because Southampton below us don't give them the opportunity to get above us. So don't lose the game. But to me, it's a game that I have to win, but should be winning. How many games have we got before? The horrendous run might not be as bad as people think though. It might spark. All the teams who we play in December are going to come on to us and evidently better when teams attack us. I'm not saying we'll win all again. Well, that's not a team we can beat, I guess. Arsenal Chelseaite fan United, I don't worry about any of them three. Good as Chelseaite, they don't bother me in the slightest. Liverpool and Leicester will be very tough away games. But that's football, they're all tough though. This will be a tough one at the weekend. So let's see what happens. Big thanks to you and let us know that this make or break for Marko Silver. That's what we've been at certainly on our live shows this week. Is Saturday make or break for Marko Silver. It feels like this question flips your hand every week. It's actually boring. People are laughing at it. The reason for me, it's too ambiguous to know and knows there can't be this. We've got to draw on that last game so it goes on. There needs to be some clarification either from the club that he's going to be at the minimum or they need to remove me either or because otherwise it's just a question Marko for the whole club forever. You need some clarity really. I suppose the only answer to that question is we'll know by the next preview which is after the international break. Big thanks to you and like I say thanks for watching. Subscribe if you haven't get the video. Thumbs up if you want more videos. Join us on Patreon. See you later.