 So I'm sure you can imagine like as an activist. It's very hard Being a vegan is very hard. It's not actually hard for the animals Who are being tortured and killed? It's it's actually incredibly hard for me. The comments have one once again. I've been mistaken actually and The people who comment on my tiktok have actually convinced me that being vegan is illogical animal rights don't actually matter and I should just start Eating animals again because it's really hard for me So welcome to another episode of these comments made me not vegan anymore Hashtag fully serious bro these comments. I'm telling you they're very persuasive. They're more persuasive than Veganism is as a as a philosophy. Let's go pat the hat 87. I'm not sure whether it's an 8.7 IQ show me the chickens sitting around a table and Discussing moral and ethical issues and I will consider them on the same level as humans Show me the babies sitting around a table Discussing moral and ethical issues and I will consider them on the same level as adults until then I'm gonna make Kentucky fried baby So pat the hat is your standard for not decapitating a being and frying them in oil the fact that They can or cannot discuss moral and ethical issues. Okay, I guess we can eat dogs now We can decapitate elephants now. We can decapitate rhinoceros is we can take endangered species like white Siberian tigers and we can cut their heads off and eat them as well We can take human beings who do not understand morals and ethics and we can decapitate them and eat them Actually, the metric is sit around a table and discuss moral and ethical issues Okay, but you better stay around that table discussing those moral and ethical issues or we might be coming for you next good thing I don't eat pork and I kill all my own chickens. Not like they have dreams and aspirations this person here I don't not I'm gonna try to pronounce her name has their own animal slaves in their backyard and decapitates them himself Wow or themself amazing. So that's that's actually really ethical that you own the animals They're yours and you kill them yourself. Well the humans I have in my basement I actually own them as well and I also kill them and they've always lived in my basement They were born in my basement actually by their mother that I've kept in captivity for years So they never have dreams or aspirations either because they don't know anything outside of that basement I don't know where people get their ethical ideas, but I think it's from watching the Jeffrey Dahmer series Eat the sandwich I made it for you. So if anyone wants one of these t-shirts animal guardian t-shirts I've got the shield with the animals in there Also on the back. We have a says defend animals. Do you see that? We'll have these with the hoodies We've got pink ones as well. We'll leave the link down below for you. The money we get from these goes towards our work Thank you very much. We've got a bunch of boxes of these We want everyone to be wearing them and you could send me photos if you're wearing them That would be great too Billy. Yeah, the problem of a vegan is they try to make everyone a vegan Did I offer you bacon when you eat broccoli? Whoa? Step aside Albert Einstein Billy's in town the problem of a non serial killer Cannibal is they try to make everyone stop serial killing and eating people Did I offer you a decapitated human when all you eat is broccoli? Hmm. Did I good one Billy? Let's keep going. Would you rather a steak from a farm that raised a cow or an avocado from a truck? That ran over 30 rodents on the road Well, I don't know how that steak got to the supermarket, bro But I'm pretty sure it was in a truck and I don't know where you get your data from But if you think one avocado is responsible for 30 rodents being run over on the road Who the hell drives a truck with one avocado in it? And also drives over 30 rats on the way to the shop I'm not sure why you think that's a strong argument where you get your data from but we can entertain it The cow on the farm has been murdered So even if I were to accept your claim that 30 rodents were run over on the road for one avocado Those would be what we would call incidents or accidents. We know there's a road toll human beings die on the road They're not rights violations. There's something a lot more intrinsically wrong with murder. Nice one, mate The words you're looking for are an animal not someone last time I checked human beings are animals What's next? Oh, wow, you just you just wrecked me there, bro Wrecked so even though they're a sentient being having their own subjective experience and individual inside of them They're not a someone they're an animal so therefore it justifies me doing literally anything I want to any animal I want so I guess you're on board with boiling dogs alive because they're not a someone So who cares? They're an animal. That's the kind of supremacist Mindset that allows atrocities to happen and not just to non-human animals also to human beings top to an anthropomorphized Animals to try to win over people with human beings are animals. We share sentience in common There's literally no problem with saying hey animals are sentient beings humans are sentient beings How do you justify killing at non-human animals for a burger and not human beings because we share sentience in common It's not like anthropomorphizing this camera Which is not a sentient being or an animal and does not have a conscious subjective experience and saying hey this this camera here Is named Frank there are someone and we shouldn't hurt Frank well It doesn't matter. You're just anthropomorphizing a camera or anthropomorphizing a carrot Jamie 84. Oh 9 Why would you want to change culture if people want to have their Sunday rows and want to continue eating me? You're no one to tell me to stop. It's not a dietary choice to decapitate animals It's a justice issue imagine if I say you know what man like if people want to murder other people and eat them For their Sunday roast who are you to stop them? It's just a dietary choice when people understand veganism as a dietary choice This is the stupid stuff they come out with who am I to tell you to stop well I'm an animal rights activist and you're violating animal rights and soon when animals have rights You won't be allowed to legally do this if you were in the animals position being gas chambered and cut up for bacon like the pigs In the UK and across the world are I'm pretty sure you'd want me to tell everyone to stop You can never change a culture and you never will Matthew Nesbitt the person who's never done anything in his life That matters you can never change culture and you never will I'm just gonna sit there and Do nothing while animals are being abused and murdered by the trillion because Matthew Nesbitt says you can never change anything Well, mate 200 million views later and Thousands of testimonials later. I think I've done a pretty good job at making an impact and if I listen to you I never would have made any impact So I'm glad I got off my bum and done something and I implore every other activist on earth to go get off Their bum and do something too because everyone can make a difference and everyone's voice matters Imagine if we were in time slavery and Matthew was around and it's like oh you can never change a culture and you Never will so we shouldn't even try sits at home Just allows atrocities to happen and never tries to make a difference. No, thanks, Matthew I prefer to spend my life doing something for others and trying to make a difference. Bayo Underscore badass plants are also living creatures. Wow. I didn't know that man What are you trying to say that plants are equal to sentient animals in terms of morality That we should care about the rights of a carrot in the same way we care about the rights of a dog or a pig Should we care about the rights of a carrot in the same way that we care about the rights of people? Do you think it's a problem to throw a bag of carrots around do you think it's a problem to step on a blade of grass? Do you think it's a rights violation to pull a leaf off a tree? Is that a rights violation? They are not sentient beings They are not having a subjective experience and if you've got a problem with science should take it up with science Ethan Berliani, he's right. You're literally hurting the stems of a living organism just because they don't move or more Just because they don't move or more Don't mean they ain't in pain cheers Ethan man, right. They don't mean they ain't in pain Hey, well last time I checked you need pain receptors connected to a nervous system And that nervous system needs to be connected to a centralized nervous system like a brain in order for you to feel Anything you need a brain or something like a brain in order to experience Otherwise it doesn't matter the burden of proof is on you Ethan You're making the claim that hurting broccoli stems or stems of a tree is a moral issue Prove plants are sentient so NB 14. He basically saying a plant's life isn't important No, plants do not have intrinsic value. There's no one inside of a plant Plants have extrinsic value outside of them like so say yes A carrot has value that it provides people to eat a tree has value because they provide oxygen to sentient beings Trees do not matter within themselves. They don't have inherent value like non human animals Who are sentient and human beings who are sentient sentience is the only metric We should be concerned with when it comes to morality if you're not sentient You don't matter unless you matter to someone who's sentient a plant's life is not important to the plant So why would it be important to me and animals life is important to the animal provided there sentient You're gonna make the argument that a tree's life matters to them You're gonna have to make the argument that they are a subject of an experience a sentient being I think it should be illegal to try to put your opinions on others. I believe the vegan abused him The vegan abused him in my opinion Decapitating animals and gas chambering animals and cutting body parts off of them and torturing them and violating their rights Is a horrible thing to do. That's illegal and you've just abused that person by sharing your opinion with him Absolutely ridiculous mate. So okay by that metric if you share your opinion on Murderers rapists child abusers that should be illegal And I'm sure what Morgan Morgan Jones is one of these freedom of speech people too, but when it comes to veganism No, your opinion is illegal. He believes that I'm abusing people by having a conversation with him But the animals that he eats are not being abused Wow, do you know how the food chain works dude other animals eat other animals too Now you should also tell those carnivorous animals to be vegan too make it make sense Never heard that one made a yeah, I know how a food chain works It's usually one organism eating another organism whether it's an animal eating a plant or an animal eating another animal or an organism Eating another organism just because other animals do something horrific like eat each other That does not give us the moral justification to eat each other like animals have sex with no consent They eat each other alive. Do you think that gives us a moral justification to act in that way if you do think that? Then I think we should have you Contained where you cannot be around anyone. Now. You should also tell those carnivorous animals to be vegan too Okay. Yeah, sure. I'll go in the jungle. Hey. Hey tiger. Can you please not shred that animal alive? I think it's horrible to do that to another animal Can you please choose tofu instead of ripping a deer's head off while they're still fully conscious? No, I would get eaten wouldn't I I can't tell carnivorous animals to care about animal abuse They're in a survival situation They're out there doing horrific things to other animals Because they don't know any better and I still think that those animals do not want to be shredded by those predators Because you know what next time pocknats getting shredded by a lion and I've got a gun in my hand You know I'm gonna say I can't stop this lion Other animals eat other animals so pocknats are human animal gonna have to let the lion shred them apart Hey, and just because we can't tell lions to be vegan then we should just allow human beings to mass kill mass torture and eat animals They don't have any necessity eating Ntn murder is a legal term that only applies to people don't come with silly emotional arguments Well, murder has many definitions and some of which apply to animals or humans one is to kill brutally So if that's a definition of murder that applies to animals too, I guess it is murder to decapitate an animal for a sandwich Okay, imagine saying this. Well, you know what technically Murder doesn't apply to animals. So cutting your dog's head off is completely fine It's just morally neutral because the word murder is a legal term. It's not just a legal term There are other definitions of the word murder. So don't come with silly emotional arguments, mate Pure logic pure logic bro. Look in the dictionary next time. So Giles actually believes it is murder. Thank God Yes, it's murder However, it's more humane now than it was say a hundred years ago and farms are becoming more ethical while still producing the same Stuff. That's just quite the claim man. That is quite the claim I hope you've got stacks of evidence for that claim. There are more animal prisons now factory farms torturing animals now There are more gas chambers more slaughterhouses now. They've never ever been in history So you cannot make the claim that it's becoming more ethical. It's actually becoming more and more dystopian torturous murderous Violent as we go on because a population is increasing factory farms are increasing the demand for body parts are increasing Therefore factory farms Torture factories murder factories are increasing. So like let's just entertain his claim here anyway Just because something is more humane doesn't mean it's humane Like let's just say I torture you for 10 hours and then kill you or just shoot you in the face Shooting you in the face is the more humane option But doesn't mean it's morally justified to shoot you in the face Especially when you haven't done nothing wrong to me and I'm just wanting to eat you in a burger that I have an alternative for Andy henda 540 No, unlike billions of others who enjoy eating meat that we've done for thousands of years It ain't gonna stop for a minority of snowflakes. Well, you know what? I'm just like billions of others who enjoy having slaves like we've done for thousands of years And it ain't gonna stop for a minority of snowflakes. You know what Andy? You're the number one reason man That I think that violating animal rights cutting their heads off and eating them is the right thing to do Mate because Andy's logic is just watertight. Mate. Thanks, mate I didn't realize I was just a minority of snowflakes and no one cares that thanks mate like look at him mate. Yeah, Andy You're a picture of ethical values And I think we should just mimic your ethical values across the globe because you are the great arbitra Of morals and ethics born piper. We have always killed and eaten animals The reason people are vegan nowadays is because of how soft we have all become we have always killed human beings We've always enslaved human beings children have always been abused. There's always been horrible racist The reason people are now anti child abuse anti slavery anti human murder And anti racist nowadays is because of how soft we have all become and look at born here, bro You think it's soft to care about animal rights. You're commenting on my page Have a look at you do you look like the soft little Peach that you were claiming vegans are you look like you would crumble under an ounce of pressure In any kind of hectic environment. I wonder if born was walked down the kill floor of a slaughterhouse How much of a softy born would become the audacity Of born some people have no self-awareness. Hey, it's absolutely incredible Shannon axel You know what you only choose to make videos about the bad side of slaughter This one's good. Shannon axel's got a got a horsey there You only make videos about the idiots who don't treat the animals with kindness. Uh, there's a good kind of slaughter Uh, can you please educate me shannon on what a good kind of slaughter is you got a nice horsey there Uh, I'll actually love horses. You don't have to love horses. Do not see them want to be decapitated But can you tell me how I could slaughter your horse in a good way right now when your horses has a preference to live Can you tell me about that shannon? Can it be with a bolt gun? Can I put them in the gas chamber like we do to pigs? Can I put them in the gas chamber like we do to chickens? Can I drag them into a lake by their face by a hook so I can drown them like we do to fish? What is the good side of slaughter? Shannon All right, we got James Nolan So you want animals to walk free around cities towns motorways and even more would be killed is less humane ways And would be starving What I'm going to give James a charity of saying even more would be killed in less humane ways and would be starving No one ever said I want uh, the animals Who are being exploited like the cows the pigs and the chickens to be released into nature or into cities So I don't know where you pulled that out of mate But I'm pretty sure you pulled that out of where the sun don't shine because I've never made that claim And no one thinks that chickens who have been selectively bred by human beings to the point where they couldn't even survive in nature Anyway, should be released out into nature No one said that so I don't know why you think that I think you're just trying to make stuff up and miss to represent my position So I sound stupid, but really you've made yourself sound a bit stupid forever blue chelsea supporter up the chelsea I don't even go for chocolate I sort of say that so this is in response to my swan meat when I was handed out swan meat Chickens are mass bred for the purpose of being food if everyone ate swans they would go extinct if people started eating them Do I have to explain why that is Logically incoherent chickens are being mass bred for the purpose of food But swans would go extinct if people started eating them even though when human beings eat animals they mass breed them So there's the logic that uh mass breeding swans would actually lead to them going extinct Great the logic is sound mate. It's rational very rational So, you know people go well if we don't eat chickens, they would overpopulate But if we don't eat chickens, they'll go extinct holding two positions at the same time hilarious contradiction Super monkey 1345 my kids know what they are eating and how they are killed. They love meat. Oh really? So your children you show them how animals are decapitated and slaughtered in gas chambers and you know horrible stuff like this The funny thing about Some people is like if you show slaughter footage on the street Oh, you can't show that you're going to traumatize people But you've literally traumatized your child by showing them what happens inside a slaughterhouse And now your children actually love eating corpses Of animals who have suffered inside a slaughterhouse and didn't want to die So you've actually taught your kids to be seasoned killers parenting 101 show To your children animals being decapitated in a slaughterhouse and teach them that it's okay And they won't grow up disturbed at all. So there you go. These are the tick tock comments joey tick tock You can go to my tick tock. I don't go on there all that much, but yeah, there's a bunch of uh Insanely intelligent comments that really persuade me away from caring about the rights of animals And of course this is satire animal rights is a very serious issue But poking a bit of fun at these people, um, I find it quite therapeutic And I hope you found it therapeutic as well. This is a serious issue of justice and You know, what's happening to animals is a terrible tragedy But you do have to try to stay sane and I do get a lot of hate everywhere So one of the ways of staying sane is to debunk them in a comedic fashion because they are jokes They are a joke and they are the reason the world is messed up and I just implore anyone with any logic or reason empathy To look at these comments and then look at my rebuttals to them and look at the how they're trying to justify The horrible things that happen to animals if you don't know what happens to animals check out the movie dominion You'll see exactly what they're trying to justify and how horrific it sounds like it's it's almost comedic Dark comedy that these people come out. They have no idea what they're talking about and try to justify the unjustifiable So, yeah, that's my uh, that's my latest episode of oh my god. These comments turned me x vegan. I'm crumbling under the pressure It's all about me. It's all about me. No, you won't see an x vegan video from me in 20 years time I'll still be debunking this x vegan crap. So there we go I'll see yous all in the next video. Peace