 All right, fantastic. You are still watching hashtag Y in the morning. And in this segment right about now, we are about to talk about an interesting conversation about how to survive. If you are a boy child out there and you're looking for skills to actually get you through life, we've got you covered all through. But before that, ensure that you continue to chat with us or engage with us on our socials. And that's on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter is at Y254Channel. And on Instagram, remember there's an underscore. This segment right about now is MCM. And Kamavilan Liviosema, Hapu Awali, Kisohili Kanapoteki Dogo, but 12 conveniwis, today I'm going to talk about survival tactics as a boy child problem time. You know, you're going to, so do you know sometimes when your society will try to favor a son or the girl child? Do you agree by the way? This is debatable, okay? It's debatable. Do you think the girl child are more favored more when it comes to resources, empowerment, and the rest? Even education. There's gas, there's parts for gas, or gas for parts, parts for gas, okay? I've never had, I've never had something for the boy child, but I'll leave that assignment to you back at home. Right about now, joining me in the studio are two powerful gentlemen. And on my immediate left, I'm going to let him introduce himself, what he does, what he's all about, and he's also going to be a contributor and to a participant in this conversation. Two powerful gentlemen, like I said. Good morning, guys. Thank you for coming. Good morning. Introduce yourself. My name is Alvis Ochano. I'm a journalist, yeah, not yet. Although I've not graduated, I'm also kind of an artistic person. So far from journalist, I'm a vocalist. I've been in the model. That means you can sing. You can throw some Asher Imon, some Traceong, Chris Vaughn. I can, I can. You'll do that to us then. I've also done fashion. That's runway fashion, and yeah, so basically I would say anything that involves art, it's kind of my strength. So I tend to dwell in such matters, yeah. Malta is killed in short. Thank you. What about you? Okay, I'm Yusuf, I'm an event organizer. Okay. Currently I'm a CEO for the French Man event organization company. Okay. And then I'm a model, and also I'm able to dance. Also a dancer, yeah? Wow. Two Malta talented guys. This one can sing, the other one can dance. The next thing I collaborate with, I do mean to play role, Ghani, but we'll find out to us. We'll find out to us there. But coming back to the topic of the day, survival and hope. When I do a little convention before, Mabuche, anyone has the pressure to fly, you could try to survive to make it successful, or to try and hack a job on time. But, Wakati, all of that is happening, you're trying to find a job, you're trying to find a support system. Sometimes it, there's a lot of obstacles to you, so you have to fight through a lot of obstacles. From your experience as a journalist, do you feel like there's a lot of obstacles to you being called a boy child? And at some point, when you're a shoulder to lean on, but you can't find one? Yeah, I would say yes, because sometimes, I believe everyone faces obstacles, but for a boy child, there's that pressure of, you have to make it. Yeah. I wouldn't try to discriminate the ladies, but for a guy, it's either you make it or you're just going to be a loser. Let me say a loser, because once you don't make it, people will be feeling you're like a joker, I'm saying when you are you go serious in life, so there's always that pressure of making it. I love you, you see the current market, how it is, job opportunities are less, and many people are qualified. That's an issue also. So I believe yes, there are obstacles, which we try to every day to break, but all in all, we have to do what we have to do to make it. Interesting. And Nesapendosano, to delve into your obstacles, I'll come back to you, but from your experiences and events, organizer, do you feel like a bro sometimes odds you're not going to do too much for the boy child? Yeah. Okay. It's true. Because you get a boy in a society, it needs more effort, because you get like me, for example, I was raised in a family that a boy child is for everything, you get. Yeah. You get like a- Do you feel like you're going to be like that? Yeah, like you get like a, in the family that I was raised with, my uncle, my aunties, and my shows. So it equal like a, like when I see my cousins, my name is Koapo, and then you get even, my uncle when he comes in, and if he comes in, my friend, when I'm with my family, I say, Rakan, yeah. You will see. Marame Nikazi. Nikazi. And then actually, when I started a Frenchman events company, I was on 2020. Yeah. When we had the COVID, then I tried to go to the offices, you get, you go to the offices, to the county offices, you say that I'm a student but I need this help. I need a start. Yeah. Did you have like a CV? Yeah, I had them. But you get, the way, you get like a, and then you know, but on the same page, there was a certain girl to come in, and then she was starting a beauty. Cosmetics business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to the end, at the same time, we were the same class, we had to carry some ideas, and then to a group discussion, then she was like, even me, I have a dream, can we do it? Then we went together at the government office so that we can get the service. You get, me, I'm a student. And then I come watch up on them. But let me tell you the shocking part. After one week, she was given a start support. Yeah. But me, me, I was like, I'm a pig, I'm like, bad-eyed, I'm not bad-eyed, I'm not bad-eyed. So from then on, I gave up, I said, this is all about me. Yeah. I was like, actually, I was like, the band, I had chips. You had chips. Yeah. So you grew? Yeah, I grew, I grew, and then I started the start, the capital, to start an organization. Yeah. You get ahead to pay for the license first. And then number two, you have to to get the document from the the community, the county government, yeah, everything. Because, you know, doing an event is a very big thing, because I may come to you as a client. Okay. You give me the event, I do the event. At the end, you're going to disappear. You're not going to disappear. Yeah. Because you know, I mean, I'm a kid, I'm a kid, I'm not going to disappear. You're not going to be certified. So I had to go first in that government. But do you think you're going to support at first, you're also going to support come or will you try to raise it for you to start your business? Yeah. I believe that. So support system, I'm going to be doing courses, you know? Yeah. I'm going to be doing totally, totally. So let me come back to you, Alvis, about the obstacles. Even generally for you, you're in the in the media industry. Could I come back? I'm going to mention I'm going to be doing a lot of bad things. And then I'm going to be doing the next step. And I'm going to be busy. For you, what are some of the challenges that you're going to face? Before you hacked any media gig or even your first, first, first media experience, what are some of the challenges that you're going to repeat here? Um, first of all, corn, I would call them corn men. Corn men. People who you are like linked to. I love to tell you like, ah, I love that they're going to sort you out. That was first of the obstacle. And remember back then, I was looking for an attachment. A mere attachment is not something I'm being paid. Actually, it's just getting the training for you to be qualified now as a journalist. And from that point, meeting corn people who tell you like you have to give something to get something that I don't want to leave. You know? But I was like, let me just do it because you know, I think nowadays, I didn't mean to talk to you, but I would say most of the employers nowadays feed on the desperation of many youths because they understand everyone has the pressure of wanting to make it in life. And we can all admit there's pressure in social media of everyone trying to make it in life, you know? So, I think there's just desperation. If I just want to do anything to be able to make money. I make do, man, say. I love for a guy, for me, I would say, the same issue. The support system are equal, you know? I would say that because when you look at our society, most of these programs that usually come up to empower the youth, most of them are to empower the girls, you know? At the end of the day, we reach a point where we're trying to get to a point where everyone is equal. But you see more of the programs that champion for the ladies are more than the ones that support the women. Yeah. So, if you try to reach a point of everyone is equal and the boy child is not uplifted or maybe a program to encourage them, I think you're being left behind and sometimes with those programs come opportunities for the ladies and where the boys left at. So, I believe those are some the support system and also when I say maapa, sometimes you go to places and I usually pity how the society has become nowadays because for lady I can end up or yes, you'll be given a job not because that you're a lady but maybe someone might want something in return and that it's so... More for the beauty. Yeah, for the beauty especially. I would say, I usually thought that nowadays at least I believe your work will sell you but there's a point that you know Kiendanga it's how you look actually. If you're not appealing, just forget about that opportunity. Do you feel like this is general living for the media and other careers as well? It depends especially with art. With art. It's going to act in everything to do it act in appearing on screen, you know? Kind of... Do you see a lot of people in your appearance? So, in short, your appearance is your selling point? I wouldn't say that. For me, my skill is my... Your skill is your selling point. My selling point but what happens is that sometimes getting opportunity to actually show people your potential is when the... She doesn't give you the opportunity. You know? Nowadays you're being judged to be appealing from the start to judge. So you're not giving that to prove yourself. And I believe if people gave people chances to prove themselves, I believe that you will be getting opportunities. Yeah. Maybe I add on the same point. The last point that you said that squeezy, it's all about... It's all about the way you get chances in your own part. But the best thing is it's all about you. It's all about you. Never. Actually, people may disappoint you. People may disappoint you. But if you are disappointed, what was speaking of disappointment? What was your worst disappointment? My worst disappointment from the family. It's pain from the family. From the member of the family. You get like a... When you're starting... What happened? Okay, you get like a... When I was starting, trying to talk about the dream I have to my family members. You get like a... Others are like... Are you sure? Do you... Like, at least the first people to discourage you and go off family. Yeah. People don't know. Maybe what I'm trying to say is bad about you. But the same blood from your family. Blood related. Do you agree that you'll get as a part of support more from strangers than what we are working on? Totally. Yeah. Totally. True. That's true. Okay. Now, I want to thank you for this courage, especially the boy who allowed the Z-Conversation in MCM. I'm a fall into depression. I'm a jerebu, I'm a fika-mushu. I'm a hope. Now, Elvis, you mentioned, I would like most support organizations in Zikoni empower the gacha, really do hear something for the boy child. What is the future solution now? For a boy child, we can try, we can try. And like you said, for a boy child, you either have to try and get it. Amako and Deivo will be tender. What do you think is the future solution to this menace? Maybe to start from the point of, that was another, you already mentioned another obstacle, that's depression. People nowadays are taking depression as very likely. And we end up having cases that we end up saying, oh, I wish I knew. I wish I did this. You know what I mean? So I think also with pressure comes the desire to be the best to perform. And when that is not happening, you can result into depression. And this kind of messes yourself because during that time, when you're doing you're under repression, you could be productive in another field. But because you're holding to something that is holding you back, like the depression, doesn't give you room to improve. So moving forward, I think we should have a support system that understands there's things like depression and these are the things that affect people, you know, especially from the what we consume socially. Mental health. Yeah, mental health is really important. There's somebody who's telling me that hygiene is not just what you eat and what you ingest in your body. It's also what you watch and read. So mental health hygiene includes even social media, what you consume. And plus, you've mentioned some of the energy that you can impress social media, especially for the butcher. You can post it on your website. You can post it on your website plus you can... To city. Because society expects you to never show weaknesses. Do you think it's a weapon in a killdreams that you're going to be able to do? You're going to be able to do it. I'm not saying... I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but you're going to be able to do it. It's not going to cost your life. I think it's actually killing also people, especially like because in a drawer, at the end of the day, where you're able to post it, to me, I believe to me, it's a chance. Only when you post about good things, as many people reach it. Oh! I'm not saying it's a bad idea. But because usually believe, no one wants to look bad on social media, to be honest. Because everyone craves so that people will be like, oh! I'm fit, I see you're moving forward. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, everything we post enough to be something positive that we miss out on, actually, when you're going through through a lot of our problems. So what I would tell young people outside there, especially the boy child, first of all, one thing I've always learned and it has been a hard, hard thing for me to learn because I always believe about impressing people. But once I realize that at the end of the day, even sometimes when I'm going to hold on to your career, hold on to your dreams. But let me tell you, once you have that dream and you look back at who you are as a person and you remember, for you to get to that dream, you've lost a lot of yourself. Because I usually believe hold on to yourself. Because once, hold on to yourself because when you reach a point where you have not achieved your dreams, maybe the goals you had set in life, you have not achieved, you'll still have yourself and you can still rebuild yourself. But when you hold on to your dreams, no, me too is of it was in Meisha and you didn't have a chance to hold on to yourself. Now, where do you want to go back? Already, you're so crushed and building back from scratch will be a big issue to yourself. So what I would tell people is hold on to yourself and I believe in failing because a winner is someone who failed. Please explain. I believe in failing because when you fail, it doesn't mean that you actually, that's the end of the world. And I believe a winner is someone who failed and decided to do it again so that they can be a winner again. So I believe we fear failing and I also do, but I would tell everyone that sometimes Kuanguka in Manisha to me is just a lesson. Maybe there's a step to miss. There's something you didn't do correctly, but you should give yourself a chance and that's holding on to yourself. Because at some point in our life, let's say you've tried to impress Killam to social media and in that pressure also. You know, when you try to impress people, you lose some blocks of how you define yourself as a person. Then life presents you with an opportunity that requires you to be your full self. Terror be gone on. And when you reach there, you don't even know who you are no more. So I believe once we start stopping impressing other people and we decide just to love ourselves and we have to work with that. We have to work with that. And we cannot change that. But depending on how much it's possible, because at the end of the day, even if you make it, wanting money is all about we want that happiness. And some people, yes, money can bring happiness but when you have happiness with the literal that you have as a person, it's greater than having all this wealth but they are not giving you the happiness that you desire. And speaking of Komoka, you mentioned that. I remember the question of the day is, if you come again, you touch upon your Komoka. Do you mention Komoka? It's like the main highlight, your maisha, even for the boy child, are coming. Okay, before I go to the part of Komoka, let me start with the same question that you asked them. Okay, true. Okay, for me, I can take example of me. You get when I was joining the university, they were like, you get, my friends are like, Buddha, who could you form? I don't know, they take tea, don't take the bank key and whatever. You okay with that? Yeah, you get one of my Nagansh. You get one of my Nagansh, you are. Like, it was so hard for me. And how did you survive? But the best thing, I was always thinking it's number one, know who you are. I like to mention. Know who you are. Number two, where do you come from? Exactly. Know who you are. Number three, what do you want to get? Who do you want to get? So know who you are, know where you come from, what do you want to get? But my question to you before you proceed is, how do you know who you are? We preach a lot, I am who I am, but who are you? Who are you? On the same point, if you want to know who you are, actually when I try to find out who I am, first thing you do, sit down, set your mind. Sit down and set your mind. Try to look since you were born. The way, the process, the process, where you are. And number two. I have a question for you. Number three, what are your weaknesses? What are your weaknesses? And what are your strengths? If you get to know your weaknesses and your strengths, you will know yourself who you are. True. I remember something. The issue of self-esteem. I had a friend of mine who had OCD. And I think who once talked about it in another previous show that you've heard here. I don't know what he was talking about. He talked about the point. I was interacting with certain people. He was talking about the space. One of the things I felt so irritable to a point. He said he was attacking others. So, it's a self-esteem issue. And I think he was talking about self-esteem issues. Maybe he was saying, I will grow up with emotionally abused, I will take advantage of him, and I will be able to help him. And of course, I think he was very strong till the end. He was very good. He was very good. So, I think he was talking about hope in life. He was saying, I will battle him. I will heal him. And I will give him an example. Okay. For me, what I can say, I think he is the number one. He accepts you. He accepts you. So, he will attack you. He will be the first step. He will accept you and you will know. He is the witness of what I am saying. The next step. So, that is a witness I am identifying. Because I remember you said, sit down, sit your mind, know your witness is in strength. Yes, that's a witness. I'm sure I get it. So, from there, you look at the surrounding. The people you are living with. Okay, my brother, my sister, my father, my mom. How do they conduct themselves? One of them is me. And then when they come to school, they say, they are good at it. How do they do it? The story of bullying, the pain that came through. Yes. So, I can say, I can say, I know that you are good. And then, I know that you are good. You know, you know, you are good. You know, you know, you are the best. You know, you are good, bro. You know, you are good. So, you know, you are good. Because I really know what I am doing. I know what I am doing is a witness. Okay. Also something, the people you surround yourself, how are they? You must have a family, but also friends. Surround yourself with people who understand you as a person. Because you know, me, my brother, I know that you are good. I need to be good. I am not to pretend. I think you are good. Come on, when they bash. Yeah. I am talking about the truth. I think most of them, they are good. Be with people who like you can be totally yourself. People who are identified with that. I said we have to, you know, they usually say we have to compromise about this and this. But sometimes, you know, especially with your friends, these are people, maybe, it will be a long time. They are shaping your career. It will be a long-term thing. Maybe to educate you will still be friends. So, I need to be with people who I feel I can be myself. You know, and they understand me for who I am. Because, you know, the ones who are people who are understanding, it will start with who I am now. I would require that an issue. And you know, when you get comfortable with your friends, they will make you comfortable with the world now. Not okay in the cookie. And now, Mali, you know how to interact with people because you are interacting already with your friends who understand you. And you know, also one thing that people really tend to hide, there's a lot of information from all these social media because I believe there is a way to overcome some certain OCD. So, I mean, also- For example, addiction. Yeah, addiction. You know, if you get educated. There's a lot of things that I'll, especially, I don't know if it's telegram, but I would, I would say, I could be addicted to using a certain app. I'm maybe an interact now to fly me when I'm in the lead contact with my friends. And I feel high as your children as well. Now, to a certain point, it affects maybe your family, could you say, well, you are like a girl, you are like a man, you are like a woman, you are like a woman, you are like a woman. I mean, how can someone go about with that? Because I believe even for the boy child, it's ten times harder. It is, it is, it is. What do you think in a solution comes when you are addicted? I think it depends on what level they are in. If like it's someone I still under like a supervision from their parents, they should control the consumption of social media and whatever they should have, like or monitor what they're doing. You know, but for someone like me, I believe I've always... What do you do to take those breaks on social media? Find something I love. And whenever I feel like I'm tempted to maybe... Click on that video, I'm gonna click on that app. Let me channel that energy that I'll give that, maybe that video, whatever, to what I love doing. Because now when I leave that alone and I focus on what I love, I improve, it's like a practice for me. So I believe it's all about transferring the energy that you need to use on something that is kind of messing you up into something that will build you up. And you know, it's hard sometimes, but start slowly. Start slowly. Give yourself a challenge. Because for you even to make it in life, you have to challenge yourself every moment in life. So even with addictions, you know. Easy to reach at that place. With addictions. At the same time, you don't have to wait two hours. I don't want to get the limits focused on you. You start small. Because if we usually, even though with job market, with making it, you don't have to figure at the top without going through the process. So I believe. And at the same time, 30 minutes. If you're keeping it in your life, there's that thing of rewarding yourself for every achievement that you make. Even that small thing. Because the small thing matters a lot. So when you, as your self-person, you decide that I'm going to give myself 30 minutes, let me see if I'll make it. That's the way you can reward yourself. You know what you love doing. And you can do it. If you're poly-poly, as you progress, you'll find yourself that you need to control the desire of you wanting to be with it. Amazio, Victor, you're quite attached to you. But remember, you need attachment. Attachment is also another kind of addiction. Attachment to your lover. Attachment to your friends. Attachment to family. When that disconnection happened, in Afanyanga, I was mentally disturbed. What about you, bro? Okay. Before we go to that, actually, you said the point that... You said the point that about the social media, posting yourself and getting... You get, as my example, I have a brother. You get like my brother. Blood brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get my brother. The text he has is from Asia. He's like, Buddha! Like, he's at home with me. At home with me. You get. At home with me. Like, there's some pressure. There's some pressure. But if you want to see from that, number one, you get like... You can spend one hour on the social media. You get. You can now start with, as he said, you start with 10 minutes doing something, even sacring, even swimming. Doing something different. You get. You get like, if today you go to swimming pool, you swim, and then you feel that, you get that happiness, you get that psyche, you get. And then the following day, yeah, you get like two minutes of swimming. It counts at the end. In the next time, you get addicted to online swimming pool. And maybe you can go to swimming pool, you can go to school, you can go to a team, you can go to the training center, you can go to the training center. At the end of the time, you can go to the school team. You get. That's how you change. It's all about a step. You say, I'm addicted to swimming, but I'm not addicted to swimming. No. It can't be. A boutrangle attachment, relationship-wise, anyways, I think relationships are the most important. I say, I'm addicted, I fall into depression. But I'm addicted to swimming. I have a common obsession. Then I can disappoint. And then I can, I can, I can try self-medication. I can't do that. I'm addicted to swimming. I'm addicted to swimming. I'm addicted to swimming. I can't do that. I'm stuck, I'm rooted. I'm a drug. I'm, I'm, do you feel like Maumbine as a side, do you think you can change? Yeah. Prayers can. Yeah. From your experience, Elvis, before I come back to you. That's okay. My experience. Do you think prayers can change? Yeah, I can't. Prayers, prayers is a very powerful thing. And people sometimes, I don't know. I don't know what happened. But I know most of us don't have the time to do anything. Even though, people think that praying is all about closing your eyes. Sometimes you tell yourself, God, make it by day and I tell you. Please, this idea too. You know, in the midst of, you might not speak it out, but come away. You know, God listens. So, maybe if prayers, prayers is very crucial. So, because that's the only person you... Are you going to a pastor? Are you going to a prophet? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. I'm going to a pastor. He's a pastor. Nowadays, you're facing it. And then magic will happen. Religion has to it. Me, I don't want to talk about it. But me, just believe, with prayers and all that, it depends on the relationship with God. With God, yeah. How do you connect with God, you know? Among the God of your understanding, people say the God of your understanding. How do you relate with Him? How do you connect with Him? How do you feel best? And you at least feel, you know, feel, yes, you've talked to Him, then you will go and attack Him. So, maybe leave prayers work and... And go to church, right? To candle church. If you feel like you're depressed, you can go to church with the hope that you will benefit. Yeah, but when you said, also you asked about, remember an attachment relationship. I believe people are getting into relationships for the wrong reasons. For the wrong reasons. That's one thing. Reason number one. Just one last. Then I jump to... Last. Last is really pushing people. Last. Like, yeah. That's one thing people in a push towards. You know, I usually tell people before going to a relationship, first heal. I don't know. Yes, when it doesn't matter. Oh, it doesn't matter if it's good or not. But if you haven't healed, don't take the baggage to the next person. Because, Najwa, you don't also know what they're coming with. But you know the issue is, how is this healing? Now, let me jump to you. I'll come to you about healing. Attachment. Okay, attachment, it affects most of the youths. It affects. For sure, because I have an example. Okay. I had a friend at the school. Then he got in love with Reddy from the university. With the girl. Yeah. Shuri for the babes. And now I'm saying, you let him say, like I'm that ego. Ah, me, me, Demo is in it all, bro. Me, me. You get, like, but then I'm a Demo squeeze, I'm like, come on, I'll kick you, you know. Come on, I'll kick you, you know. You get, like, this guy, I'll kick you, that energy, that side, that. Ego, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, all of a sudden, this girl, I come to her sponsor. You get. I come to her. Yeah, I come to her. And this guy, I'll find a very bad decision because I've been to at Montclair University, the tallest building then, it's done, bro. And that was the end of the story. The end of the story. It was so painful, because one of them said, I'm not sure what he said. I'm not sure what he said. I said, actually, it was a fourth year. A fourth year? Yeah. It was four. Yeah, I think boys take it hard with heart. Okay, for me, what I will advise my family is. Your fellow boys, yeah, yeah. My boys, yeah. Number one, number one, before you get into a relationship, get to know who you are dating. Get to know who you are dating. Yeah, first. Okay, sir, sir. Now with this person. Relationship tips are normal. Yeah. Get to know who you are dating. Yeah. To get to know who you are dating is, when you stay with this person, maybe be friends. Be friends first. Firsts. Manapata is a tip. Yeah, be friends first. I became it. Yeah. Like, yeah, yeah. Like, why do I say that? You get like, who is the best in the world who is the best in the world? Because who is your friend, who is free, who is even her secret. You get. Two. The time when you are in a secret relationship, you will find that you are her friend. That's what I'm looking for. But you are taking advantage. Don't you think you are taking advantage? No, no. No. Okay. You get see advantage. Because who is the best in the world? Like you get, who is the best in the world? You are the best in the world. Franny. Who is the best in the world? Who is the best in the world? Who is the best in the world? Materialistic. You get. But what if you say, the reason why you are taking advantage is to study. Do you want to study? No, you can't. Okay. If she is a good person, if she is a good person, she is also studying you. She is also studying you, right? Yeah. Hey, but see, she is a man, yeah. It's man society. Yeah. I would say, one thing before. Before, remember you have to speak on healing. Oh, healing. Answer that first. I would say on that point is that, I think we are taking care of relationships. Try to love people with their love language, not yours. And that's why we make a mistake. Try to be along. Yeah. If you want to be in love language, it's not easy. Don't try to impose it on you. I don't want to be in love with you. When it comes to love, love is all about compromise, you know what I mean. Yes, you cannot get everything 100%. At least compromise. When you learn to love people in their love language and they do the same, I think apoku coexist together and also grow in each and every day will be very easy. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I love to see the relationship with someone else. I don't know if it's someone I know, but I usually believe, you know, many people, and many people, many people have an elementality. Oh, I think about this. Because we're always thinking about what will happen next. But what I usually, I've learned to tell myself, live in the moment. Live in the moment. When I say what I do, it doesn't matter. Because when I start thinking of this, I'll start planning and I'll see the future. That might lead to a breakup. So it's all about living in the moment. When I say, let's love each other each second, minute, if I can tell you. Because when you're not certain about the future, apoku, they will not be a lot of disappointment. At last, I grow in each and every day. I love each and every day. But today, I choose to love you like this. So let's not plan at the, by five years, not a lot of fun. Because sometimes when I have a relationship, I don't want to go to Mahisha. Now, I have a relationship with someone else. After two weeks. So that's on that date. After two weeks. As well as that, I don't want to go to Mahisha. I want to open a business. I don't want to go. I don't want to exchange assets and I don't want to go to your house. Speaking of that, before you speak of healing, we had a conversation and somebody mentioned for how long should you date someone? And I said, you can date for two weeks and one day you'll be married. I said, three months is enough. I said, for ten years, I was engaged. But at that time, for ten good years, and finally, I met Mahisha. Hey, I'm young. I want to date someone. How long? How long do you think you can date someone? I want to date someone. I want to get the answers right. Let me just be real. Yeah. For how long do you think it should go? First of all, I don't want to say that I think it should go. My total opinion about that knee, if you want to date, date, to marry. Because I don't think I have four sisters. I'm the only boy. And every time I imagine someone is going to waste my sister's time, it kind of limits me for movement. I'm not even shooting them. It kind of defines who I am as a person. I wouldn't want to mess with someone else's daughter for a period of time knowing clearly that you're not married. This is not the woman I want to live with. I think when dating, date to marry. Okay, date to marry. Date to marry. Let's shift away from relationship to read it back to the topic. Healing. Healing. Don't carry over the heart and the damage to the next person. First of all. To point at the devastation and lose hope. I mean, first step of healing is, yes, as soon as you say yes, maybe it's an incident that happened in Lifanyam breakup. It's totally on the other person. But I think in one way or two, we also played a part in that. One thing people really want to do is that they also are at fault at some point. Once you realize the mistakes you did in your previous relationship, now think of what you intend to do in the next one. Think of things that maybe Lifanya, you approach them. Some things that you're looking for from the other person and maybe the thing that you forgot to do was communicate. No, no. With healing comes with accepting, yes, in Asia. No, no. Because once you make kubali, too, in Asia, don't force issues. Because don't force. You see, when you drink, collect, work and you don't know what to do. So don't force issues, kubali. First of all, okay, once you accept in Asia, then that's one step to healing. Because sometimes you hold on to this. And you know with that, you cannot move forward. But like you mentioned, it also depends on the background you come from. Because when you understand society, you become emotional. You become emotional. Emotional damage. That's how the system is so shifting. That's not the man we want for the society. That's toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity. And people nowadays make fun of it. Like, look at the meme, sometimes they come, when you mean in one arm, okay? And you see something, when you mean in one arm, okay? And now we have made it a norm. Stereotype, yeah. Stereotype of how men should be. And this is the mistake. You know, sometimes, nowadays, yes, a man should be the head. But also, women are like, from how I've viewed things sometimes, men should be allowed to be vulnerable with themselves. And you'll find some women telling you that, they usually appreciate a man who can be the head, but are sometimes kubali. Yes, you cannot be vulnerable to anything. But women, when you say men who, like, at some point, they all want to admit, they want to be a woman, and they decided to share it, it was actually very special to that lady. Of many ladies that I've met, they've told me that. So I believe, the way to make a structure society, I don't want to be affected by it, I don't want to be affected by it. I mean, we hold on to a, men hold on to a lot of things just because they cannot express themselves. And you know, we hold on to everything. It's the first time, bro, because you're running out of time. Also, when you hold on to a lot of things, in a pile up. And now you get, when you let it out, you let it out to the wrong people. Amuna, it burst. It burst, it was very ugly. Your final sentiments, bro, two seconds. Apparently, you've run out of time. Okay, also on the same point of feeling, as you said, first thing, it's to accept the mistake. Accept the, where it went wrong, you just accept it. Okay. It's so painful. And I don't want to say that I'm not like that. I don't have a story that tells me that I'm a normal person. I will take a, I will get a room for you to live for 30 minutes. Really? Yeah. So you advocate for men to cry, right? Yeah. Release. It helps to release that thing. Because if you keep it, it will, like will I say, it will come out to the wrong person. And my director is telling me, we are out of time and I believe we will continue this conversation, part two of it. I will carry it over to Monday next week. So I know you guys, you'll be around. Yeah. So we'll carry it over from Monday next week. But away from that, we had asked you a question on our socials. To record, we said, we will come again, you touch, you find your key, or more. Mm-hmm. We will come again, and we will figure it out. As I read some, two, three comments, are a caraca. Eric Monique, we will say, it's so painful, it's so painful. Okay. You know, okay, you are laughing emoji. 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