 Hey everybody, welcome back to the LynxCast, I'm your host Matt, and I'm Tyler. You remember his name even though he hasn't slept in like thirty-six hours. It's great. Yep. So, well, I don't know about that long. It's been a while. Yes, what you said, it's, that's, I could have went, you know, for a higher number to make it seem more impressive. I just, I just don't want people to think I'm dying over here. It's only been like twenty-four hours. It's fine. It's, I guess it's okay. He's sort of, yeah. He's just going to start talking about NFTs again. We had to put a stop to that. All right, anyway. So, this is the LynxCast. We talk about Linux things. We are a day late. So, we do apologize for that. That's my fault this time. So, surprisingly, this week has just been the absolute worst week when it comes to work. So, we had four guys quit at work. So, I had to go. And so, I'm not like, I'm not a writer anymore at where I work, right? I still write a little bit, but it's just mostly for fun and keep my toes in the water, as they say. So, but most of the time, I'm just an editor. But we had four guys quit. So, I had to take their assignments and do all those. So, it has been just a monstrous week. And on top of that, I hurt my knee. So, I haven't been walking around all that much. So, it's just been kind of a crappy week for me. But we're not here to talk about my woes. Tyler, I'm not even going to ask you what you've done in Linux this week, because we all know the answer to that question is that you haven't done shit in Linux this week. Because you're not a Linux user anymore. You're a Windows user. You're fired, dude. Seriously, what the hell? One week, I could put up with it two weeks. So, it was still, you know, fine, whatever. You had a good reason. But we're like three or four weeks in and it's still like, you're still in bed with Bill Gates. I mean, really? What is wrong with you? I'm just nervous because I don't want to spend so much. I don't want to go over and spend 30 minutes setting shit up and then finding out that the desktop environment I'm using, like I have to like install some stupid thing and mess around with another stupid thing to get my freaking Windows to go to half my vertical widescreen. Like I just don't have to mess with any of that stuff. All I heard was blah, blah, blah. I'm lazy, blah, blah, blah, blah. Exactly. That's in all reality. That's all it is. I'm lazy and that's it. So, I'm fine with Microsoft spying on me egregiously for the moment. I'm not mad. I'm just severely disappointed. Also really mad. I think it's a little bit of Stockholm syndrome, too. It's like, it's kind of like where, you know, your bully beats you up and takes your lunch money for so, but here's the thing, like when he does beat you up and he takes your lunch money, like some other kid, like some good Samaritan every single day buys you a really nice pizza. So, you're like, I mean, it's kind of easy. I mean, I could run and everything, but then again, I could just get beat up and grab my nice pizza. Carlos gave me a really good idea. You're not actually in bed with Bill Gates. You're actually his illegitimate son. Well, well, look, my 23 and me, it's not public, okay? We need to get Tyler's mom on here and just ask some really pointed questions. I mean, you just opened up my closet and it's full of khakis and sweaters. He has some pocket protectors in there and some really weird glasses because the glasses you have just don't go with your Bill Gates, you know, repertoire. Well, I mean, if we're being honest, these are my backup glasses because my other ones did get broke, so or lost. I don't want to talk about uncomfortable glasses. That's just, that just wasn't to a rep. So I think so. You haven't done anything in like six minutes and we still haven't talked about anything yet. This is going to be a ridiculous podcast, by the way. So if you are listening to this right now, pull over in your car and find something else to listen to. I mean, if you're not in this for the biggest rambles and tangents you've ever seen in your life, you probably won't enjoy this podcast because we will eventually get to the main topic. Whatever it will take time, but it will stumble there. We'll get there because he's sleep deprived. I don't know what I am, but all right, Tyler, what have you been doing this week? Just working a lot on the game. I've gotten a lot of progress done. I am, I'm really excited about a lot of the progress that I've made. We've got like a really nice logo for it whipped up. God, I mean, I showed you some of the stuff in there. We've got some pretty decent foliage. We've got pistols and a pistol, a rifle with aiming animations, crouching, jumping. You can switch your weapons. We've got fire mode switching and we're on the way to getting a good foundation for a single player survival game. I'm pretty excited about it, but that's it. From what I've seen at Venknaught Granted, it was only what you just showed me today. It looks really cool and I'm not just saying that because I have no talent in that area whatsoever. So literally stick figures would have looked awesome. So when you're asking for a critic, I'm not the best critic you could have, but it looked really cool. So I'm happy that you found that to do. I couldn't do that. I have no talent in that area whatsoever. My graphical designs, chops are not existent at all. Like they're really not. Excuse me. Now what about you? What have you been up to? So in the docs, I say I've been talking about how I've been finishing up my MxLinux review, which is true. I'm going to hopefully record that today, maybe tomorrow and also working on the website. But that last part is not true. I thought when I wrote that that I was actually going to go through and work on the website, but I did not do any more of that. The server is still in the exact same position it was last week when we talked. So it's just been a really, really long week. I have been thinking about switching to a different window manager. I've been going back to I3 for a while, just for fun changes, scenery, but that hasn't happened yet either. So I have all these plans, but I have just had no time to do any of those things. But I don't know. It's been a long week. I'm happy that it's Friday. I'm really, really happy that it's Friday. I'm really happy. I'm so much happy that I can't even properly express how happy that I am that it's Friday. But anyways, let me talk a little bit, talk about MxLinux just for a minute. I really like it, man. I'm seriously considering making MxMem daily driver. That's how good it is. Now, I'm recording this on Arco, not because Mx is bad, but simply because I have all my OBS profiles here on Arco. So I don't want to have to go through and set all that stuff up. That's not an MxLinux problem. That's an OBS shit problem. It's really good most of the time. It's shit the other 10%. So that's the reason why I'm on Arco today. But I've been using MxLinux. Basically, it's my daily driver now for almost a month. And it is good. The problem, like I talked about last time, is that if you use it with their intended purposes, which is non-systemd, you have some issues because a lot of programs are written for systemd and those programs just don't work, right? So yep. Yeah. So that's what I've been doing on Linux. I'm trying to figure out what my next long term review is going to be. I'm thinking it's going to be like EndeavorOS or something because people keep telling me like, oh, EndeavorOS is the best arch-based distro. And why are you always pooping it? So I've never actually tried it long term. I've tried Groot a long term was on that. So we'll see. Maybe that's the next one I try. I've also been, people have been talking to me about like a Gen 2-based distro. I don't know if that's going to happen or not. Like, it won't be Gen 2 itself because we all know when that will happen. But maybe Calculator, what's the other one, starts with the seduction? Is that it? I wouldn't know because I'm not going to try it. I've spent too much time trying real Gen 2. You tried to spend too much time in windows is what you actually meant to say. I don't know. Fedora keeps calling me back. I really like Fedora. Fedora is good. Elementary OS is not so good. Maybe think of that. Anyways, all right. So moving on into the contact information, this should be good. I'm just saying that out loud right now because this is going to be a disaster. It's actually what it's going to be. So if you know me, you know that I can't get through the contact information worth a damn. So if you want to get in contact with us, you can do so on Twitter at Linuxcast. You can subscribe to all of our audio stuff at thelinuxcast.org. There will be a website there next week when we record this podcast. I'm putting a deadline on it. Damn it. It's so freaking close. The website is done. The server is up. All I literally have to do is install like a web server on the server and upload the files. That's literally all I have to do. I just got to, you know, do it. So I'm going to put a deadline on it. There will be a website there next week. Anyways, you can contact us via email, email at thelinuxcast.org. You can support us on Patreon at patreon.com slash Linuxcast. You can support Tyler who has places on Odyssey and YouTube, youtube.com slash Zaneo G on YouTube. You can join either of our Discord servers. Links to those will be in the video description. You can join the Telegram group, which if you do join the Telegram group, I don't know why you'd want to do that. There's literally nobody there. I don't know why it's there, but it exists. If you want to go there and shout into the ether, you can do that. You can check out our merch store or technically Zany's merch store. That link will also be in the video description. There's a lot of awesome stuff there, and you can subscribe to the Linuxcast on YouTube at youtube.com slash the Linuxcast. That was pretty damn good. I mean, just saying that was pretty damn good. It wasn't the disaster that I thought it was going to be. So every week, Tyler and I scoured the internet for news items pertaining to Linux and opens their software, and this week is no different. So Tyler, what is your news item this week? Mine is a fantastic one. So for any of you guys who are like me and always were kind of into the nukes, the Intel nukes, there's an AMD Ryzen. It's a desk mini, and this thing's actually pretty solid. It comes with a four core eight thread Ryzen 7. It's an H-series laptop processor, so it's a pretty decent laptop. It's one of the better laptop processors with Vega 10, and you can slap, I believe it's got two M.2 drives in it. It can fit a 2.5 inch, and it comes with Manjaro OS plasma gamer edition. Manjaro has a gamer edition? Since when? Why not? I don't know. I don't keep up with these things. Who cares, man? And I don't even know what that means. Gamer edition? It probably has steam installed on it. That's probably it, but who cares? Why not? Let's make it. If Opera makes a gaming browser, why can't the world have anything else? Oh, God. Come on. Chat poll. Does anybody actually use Opera as the browser? If so, we're going to ban you. That doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. We already know no one uses Opera, and if you do use Opera, it's only because you just don't know any better. That's it. You've never tried anything else. You have such a hard on for using something different that you had to go out and find the most different browser you could possibly choose, because nobody else uses it. Why is Opera still a thing? Well, it's for, again, that small niche, like a niche amount of people who searched for a browser and pick the one that they had never heard of before, and then that's what they stuck with for the rest of their life. Or there's like some really, really nerdy Opera people who liked, like, you know, Opera? Oh, wait, well, I guess Opera devs probably use it. And I do say probably. I mean, I don't know that they would, but probably. I wouldn't. TFL says he's never used Opera. I mean, maybe Opera would be good if they were still using their own engine, but they just, it's just blink. To me, Opera, we're trailing off of your topic. We'll come back to it in a minute. I just want to say this. It's like, okay, so, Opera's like Vivaldi. Before Vivaldi was Vivaldi, you know, because they have like email clients and all this stuff and VPNs and all that stuff built in. Well, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really like Vivaldi before Vivaldi went really bad, like before it got really bad. All right. Seriously, I don't, I don't even know. I don't even know. All right. So this looks really cool. It's only like $500, right? Right, too. Right. And this is one of the, this is actually one of those rare Linux computers that you can buy here in the United States, I think. Right? I believe so. Because like Slumbook and Tuxedo and all those stuff, those are all European based manufacturers and they don't sell over here. Like you can get them here, but it costs like $200 to ship it. No. And that's not, I mean, it's, this thing is AMD, man, but so that like, it's actually not crap. Right? You could probably play decent games on it. I mean, I don't know about the latest AAA, but you know, like, you know, some Killing Floor 2 or something like that, some decent settings. Yeah, it looks, it looks awesome. It looks like it could drive dual displays too. So cool. As far as I know, it has an HDMI in a display port. Does it have, it only has one USB-C port though, right? That's a little disappointing. All right, it doesn't matter. Matt, you're gonna have to wait to buy that anyways. You have to buy new headphones first because these things are hurting my ears. Okay. All right. So moving on to mine. My news this week is that wine 7.0 has been released. So if you are a gamer of any sort, literally at all, you'll know that wine is probably the most important piece of Linux software for that kind of stuff. And this new version of wine comes with improved high DPI to support support. I can't talk with the dam improved. I think this is HID stack and joystick support, which is, you know, good if you're using it, those like proprietary like joysticks and stuff that have become really popular since Microsoft Flight Simulator came out again, new while 64 architecture support for a lot of things that I don't actually know better support for multiple displays with caveats. I don't know what those caveats are various new direct 3d 10 and 11 features plug and play driver tweaks and updated mono 7.0. So there's just a ton of stuff here. Apparently it's a really big release. I'm not a gamer all that much. So a lot of that stuff just right over my head. I have no clue what actually end of it means, but for those gamers of you out there supposedly this is a really, really big release. So this is a big deal. This like might might make gaming on Linux much more playable, like a lot more playable across the spectrum because all right, so I wanted to play a game. And I've come to realize that Arco is crap for playing games because proton doesn't work on my install Arco at all. I can play any Linux native game that I want and steam. But the minute I try to use a proton one, it does that whole thing where you press the play button. It does the first time you press the play button, it comes up with a little pop up and it does its normal walking stuff and looking for shaders and all that stuff. And then it immediately the play button which changes from green to blue goes back to green and says play again. After that you when I hit play on the play button, it goes to the stop button like it normally would and then it automatically goes right back to play and it does on every single proton game out there like every single one that I have installed. It doesn't matter what you know game studio and I've tried different versions of proton. I've tried different settings in steam. I've tried some different flags that they've said to try on the internet. It just does not work. So and I don't know why like it is really sucks because I wanted to play some racing games damn it but it just wouldn't start. So I had to play city skylines and then I got like to like 10,000 people in my city and the damn thing crash. Oh fun. Yeah so gaming on Linux kind of shit. I'm just going to put that out there. It can still be kind of shit. I'm sure some I'm sure if you use a more gaming focused distro than what I'm using maybe it's better. I don't I'm I'm assuming the reason why I'm having problems is because of a dependency or something. I've had Arco play weird with a lot of things. So could just be Arco but I love it so much as much as we love it. I mean I see the really sad part is like I don't even use Arco but I have a really nice Arco t-shirt I made here. Everybody should go out and buy one of this thing. Like it's so nice. It's made like with the Arco wallpaper. Like it's so nice. It is good. All right so I think we're moving right along. We've only been recording for 20 minutes and we're already moving on to the main topic. What the hell is wrong with us? Obviously. Me sleep deprived helped us move along faster. What? This is crazy. Excuse me Matt Tri-Mingiro. I've tried Mingiro before. Maybe I should. I think I want a distro hop dammit. Damn it. Thank you Carlos. All right now I want a distro hop. How about this? If you try Mingiro I will back up all of my shit and get prepared. I'll stop working on the game for a little bit and I will try to switch back over to Linux and continue game dev there. Tyler why don't you dual boot? Like seriously you're like a prime candidate because there's no reason. Like the whole reason I'm not using Linux is because I don't want to have to stop game dev and spend the time to like hassle and get everything to work but I'm just saying that if you had two partitions on your hard drive one windows one Linux do your game dev and then mess around use Linux is like your like your mess around time like when you're taking a break show your windows computer down and then boot back into Linux and mess around for 15-20 minutes take yourself a brain break switch back to windows and keep going on your game. It's literally the best of both worlds. But when all of my games when more games work on windows and it's like instead of me rebooting my computer and then logging back into a whole different system just to go in and watch Netflix I can just press a button inside of edge while my button being a bookmark and watch Netflix. Everyone in the chat everyone in the chat is hearing this right now and what they're hearing is that you're a lost cause you're never coming back to Linux. I just said if you want to install Manjaro let's make an event out of it and I'll do it. Right but you also said you're gonna have to wipe your your windows install right. Yeah well I've got a 14 terabyte drive I can back it up my next cloud drive as well. I'm just saying if you had a dual boot every time you decided to try out a Linux distro you wouldn't have to wipe out your your windows install it was just to be there no more installing windows for you it's just there and it's working. Well I would do that but I don't have an extra drive I literally only have this 14 terabyte drive on this machine I only have the 14 terabyte drive and my NVMe in there and dual booting on the same drive with windows is a no go no go windows does not like that. It worked fine for me. It's been three four years so sometimes it will but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get a beautiful Linux install going and then just let windows kill it like no it's not gonna happen. I'm pretty sure TFL's in the in the chat mocking you I'm just saying that he's mocking me he's mocking someone. All right moving on to the main topic we'll just put I mean I'm gonna continue to try to get I am gonna try Manjaro on my main partition. So what I'm hearing is we're gonna have a discord event where we install Manjaro after this. It will not be after this it'll be this evening maybe but I'm gonna have to get out of this chair. Okay so what I'm hearing is just so everyone in this who's watching us live and listening to this afterwards possibly soon enough to hear this Matt is going to join me in my discord server later on and we're going to install Manjaro as a team. This is gonna be fun. I'll have to use my phone and get discord on there you know all right we'll do this yo okay okay we're gonna do it all right TFL was probably one of those children that had the perfect puppy dog innocent eyes he got away with everything I'm sure he was me mocking how dare you that's what kills me even posted a halo that's great all right he knows I'm moving on to the main topic. Can KDE beat gun arms so the reason why I wanted to talk about this was because I was listening to some other podcast and they were talking about like the history of Linux or whatever and prior to KDE 4 coming out KDE was kind of the predominant desktop environment a lot of the distros out there used KDE as their main desktop environment and then once KDE 3 came out it was horrible and people switched to GNOME so the question I had to ask was do we ever picture a scenario in the future where that kind of switches back because there's been a lot of pushback over the developers in the way they're doing GNOME now do we see an opportunity for something like KDE to come in and be the predominant desktop environment again or have we become too fractured and have too many desktop environments so Tyler answer the question I'm going to be that beaten and whimpering dog that has been whimpering for ages yes just fix the settings menu Jesus it's convoluted it looks ugliest sin that's it just just KDE is so close to perfect the only thing it lacks is just not even a UI overall just go in there and move around stuff and just make it look a little bit prettier like just a little bit tweak tweak the UI so things are just spaced out a little bit more just some minor tweaks and oh my god it would be great but the fact that if I want to I don't change double like if I click on an object in my file browser I don't I don't want a single press to open it up I want to double press to open it up the fact that I need to go into settings so it's not in my file browser which is cool okay so it is in settings so inside of settings where would you think you would find it under mouse under file under file manager no you find it under workspace under workspace that makes no sense why would I find it it's weird because the single click and double click behavior used to be in dolphin that used to be where it was and they moved it out why they moved it out I don't know I'm assuming they moved it out and then for a short period of time it was in mouse and then it moved out of there it I swear it's just it's just one of those things where get that settings menu figured out and kde can excel okay they have a great suite of applications I don't know if you ever take an advantage of them Scott in my discord has and he can talk about it for hours he loves it kmail is fantastic it's it definitely I love all of them because they allow you to tweak and I love the tweak stuff so I'm going to have to disagree with you about the settings things I don't think that I I think that in some places you're right that it is convoluted and they need to do a better job of getting things to be actually where they need to be um that's definitely true but I don't think that it's ugly or anything like that I think it's way better than it used to be um and I don't think that that can even be argued it's way better than it used to be I think that their biggest hurdle actually in being mainstream and being usable is actually discover because they're software application center now that is shit and discover has been crap for years no no wrong it is better than it used to be but that's not really saying that much is they've literally it's literally the definition of lipstick on a pig they've gone through and made it faster and added some screenshots and stuff like that but it's still not great looking and the thing about a store and this is true no matter whether you're selling anything or not is that your storefront has to have curb appeal like you don't walk into the mall and go into a place that looks like it was being run by a hobo it has to have you know it has to look nice and that's some class yeah and it just doesn't right the discover just it looks like crap it looks it looks like the 711 of software centers I know what you're saying and yeah it does exactly what it does and the thing is if it were the only software center in town you had nothing to compare it to people would probably find it perfectly fine but if you compare it to something like GNOME software and god I hate saying this because I hate everything that has to do with GNOME but the GNOME software center flawed as it may be looks nice you know and they've gone through and continually you know made it better and they've rewritten it and it's it has cool pictures and stuff like that and wow discover has gotten some of the screenshot things right when you open up discover the first thing you see are icons and half of the icons look like that from the 1990s because you know what there's one thing that we could almost say almost universally is that Linux software developers are not also graphic designers they can't do icons with a dam the vast majority of them I'm sorry but they can't um yeah all you have to do is look at things like um here soon just take a look at my game no just I mean things like Gimper, Kaden live I mean they're I mean the icons aren't horrible but they're not you know catchy they're not pretty and what the hell does a fox have to do with a graphic design software I'm just going to put that out there you know I think is that a fox I don't even know um so I mean that's I think that's my biggest problem with Katie it doesn't really answer the question though can they take over take GNOME because I think I think the question of if they can has less to do with how good Katie is and more to do with how pissed off people are with GNOME and because people are pissed off with the developers of GNOME so um I think that they have an opportunity there to get some foothold but my worry is that we seem to be in an error less an error an error less of people adopting technology that already exists so for example moving from 1D GNOME to um KDE but more in an era of people just deciding hey screw it I'm just going to write my own desktop environment uh system 36 is doing this but there's rumors that the canonical is going to do this with Flutter uh budgie is going through and rewriting theirs instead you know and going to EFL uh so I think that that's going to be more where this goes instead of KDE becoming because no matter what the problems we have with KDE it's the most customizable desktop environment we have by far like yes that comes with its own problems but from a customizability standpoint if you're a distro maintainer why you wouldn't just go through and customize KDE to make it look how you want it to look for your users why you wouldn't do that I don't understand because literally if you wanted to look if Ubuntu wanted to keep their standard look they could do that with KDE they could do it um if if uh um elementary OS wanted to create their look with KDE they could do it but no they wanted to create their own stuff and that's fine uh but it just creates more and more desktop environments and a lot of these things are just going to end up eventually abandoned for something else or they're all going to have there's some problem they're going to get heavy and bloated and all that stuff it's just I mean obviously KDE is going to have its own problems because one of the things about KDE is because it has so many settings it doesn't necessarily um lend itself to new users right so it kind of makes you think that KDE needs like an easy mode I don't know we're just really you know I mean KDE could benefit a lot from um that that kind of new user friendly like a Mac kind of style in it in the discover um I mean GNOME kind of gets it right with the icons even though they're not like I mean they they objectively look good but they don't I mean they don't look like you've got billions of dollars and like you they've paid a team to sit sit back and design all of these icons but they have icons that they just look appealing immediately once you get in there it looks like something that I don't know you're you're excited to look at every day to get new stuff and that's not discover strong suit right now it does work fine like I mean I've used discover it's fine um it used it used to not be great but on KDE neon it was fantastic well I know that I look really pale it's because there's there you know when you lose some shading on the on your face it just makes you look like I can turn this down um I don't know that that's any better but I can't in fact turn it down though the sad part is is we can't do like all of that nice color grading and stuff like if we could maybe okay so we're gonna about we're about to take a tangent this this could just go down this road all right I have never color graded anything in my life okay and you probably can tell that from the videos I can help you out there I wouldn't even know where to start so I'm one of those people like I could tell a difference when we went from standard definition to high definition like I could tell a difference between those two I can't tell a big difference my eyes just aren't good enough to tell there's between HD and 4k I can't okay um the same thing but it has something to do with my eyes but I can I mean I can tell if colors are like really really bad but if the subtle changes that you get with color grading I can't really tell difference my eyes are just that bad but the weird thing is it translates to my ears too like I like so I listened to podcastage if you don't know that he's a youtuber who reviews microphones and he does like these long microphone reviews where he compares like 15 microphones and the thing is I don't know why I listened to this thing because I can't tell there's between any of the microphones they all sound exactly the same to me like it doesn't matter if like he has like a microphone that costs $10,000 it's made by Neumann and the thing is is that oftentimes she'll put that up against something that costs like a hundred bucks I can't tell the difference like not even a little bit like they sound exactly the same to me and I know there are differences like now some of that is going to be because uh you know my audio setup is not like I don't have these are $30 headphones right you know so that's probably gonna be part of the reason but also I've never been an audiophile so um that's just the thing and it's the same thing with color grading stuff like I just can't tell the difference um so if you're expecting my video quality to get any better anytime soon it's happily probably not happen when we meet up later to install Mencharo I will shoot you over at the folder that I have of LUTs that I've talked to you about sending over and you can apply those pretty easily in OBS and if you can't tell a difference with those then you really do need to go get checked out because you're probably colorblind the thing is is that I can tell difference so like I like Distritube a lot like he would not be where I am without him uh but the thing is he recently started changing his color grading on his his videos to look a lot darker and like I could tell that it looks like he turned all his lights off there's and there was one there where he looked like an Oompa Loompa I'm just gonna put that out there he would his his skin was orange um so I could like it's when you get to that point where you went really far off the the the normality scale that I can tell but when there is the subtle stuff I can't tell so um yeah I can't there was one there where he just it just didn't turn out all that great for him uh and I I don't know about you Tyler but I wouldn't look very good as an Oompa Loompa I'm just no no it neither would I I I couldn't pull it off and there are probably younger members of our audience who say what the hell is an Oompa Loompa please no look look I I know some of y'all might consider yourself as old I don't consider myself as old myself as old oh my god no no no here's the sad part is that people people probably of your generation and a little bit later probably think that um Johnny Depp was Willy Wonka like that's technically true but it's Gene Wilder people yeah the good one the good one like the weird pedophile weird yeah the weird one just like like you could tell that one was done but I was named Tim Burton was that the guy who did that we did that um I don't know I I mean see the thing is is like when when you see the comparison between the two like one's like oh this is definitely for kids the other one's like why is this guy who's clearly doing cocaine hanging out with kids like what's going on this guy is definitely a pedophile I'm just saying like he should not be near children uh then don't get me wrong Johnny Depp I'm sure is a great I mean seriously the first Pirates of the Caribbean probably one of the best Disney movies I've ever seen oh he's a great actor but that doesn't mean that he fit that role at all like that was no no he's definitely not one it's really weird right I don't know how how a Linux conversation has ended up with us talking about Johnny Depp no no here's here's the progression we went from color grading to distro tube looking like an envelope to Johnny Depp I'm just saying this is the best it's like it's like it's a it's a linear progression okay I'm assuming that's probably true but uh because Rold Dahl was was a weird weird author too so his his uh I'm responding to Milo in the in the chair who said that Tim Burton stuff was it was closer to the actual books but still Johnny Depp's not okay anyways you know I don't know at least we can agree on that but I don't know what's gone wrong with this podcast but I warned you I warned you at the beginning I warned you at the beginning hey and we were so fast at the beginning that we have to make up for it with some good tangents okay it's only 40 minutes and we can't stop at 40 minutes exactly and especially because we need to take up more time that way people aren't you know I don't I don't have a flood of people in my discord just waiting for you to show up because I know that's what's going to happen I'm going to gain my server is going to gain like 40 people just to wait to show like for you to show up so that we can do a Linux install as a group okay so that's not it'll be at least eight o'clock I'm just saying that right now okay my time usually after the podcast I have to take away a break from the computer also I have to at least sometime and I edit this podcast so I'm just pointing that out so that's true but but I now I now might just might be in the habit of getting you the audio before you get up from the computer all right I want to put the breaks on this habit idea because one week of actually doing this does not form a habit it can't it can't it's the start of a habit it's not the actual how do you think this one started just one at a time so what we need to try we need to do is make sure that there's some kind of reward after you sending me the audio and then you'll you'll get that positive reinforcement right okay there is I it's the satisfaction of knowing that three hours later I won't get it on an awkward message of hey man can I please get that audio and then I progressively get angrier and angrier I need to work I need to do this sometime before three o'clock in the morning Tyler please sorry we'll see if you can do it two weeks in a row then we might start talking about the whole habit thing it's all right all right so uh good lord um we had a we had an episode right before uh we break we we uh stopped for the the christmas break where we talked about nothing this is actually turned in we got away from the main topic um but katie and ganome yeah uh I think I think katie can come ahead but they'll just I still think the settings is kind of something that it definitely needs to be addressed like just I don't know making it a little bit more competitive and a little bit more user friendly would be nice but yeah discover still I hadn't even thought about discovering until you brought it out that I mean that's that's a really good point like it definitely definitely could use improving well I I think the big the biggest I mean when we talk I think discover is the biggest one because I mean the vast majority of people excuse me our new users who come into a desktop environment never used before and the number one places they're going to visit outside of a browser is going to be the store where they buy their application buy their application but get their applications and if it that if that doesn't you know we're not we're not elementary os okay right my distinguish whatever the thing is if it doesn't look good right and people aren't going to go there's also the problem of katie having really weird defaults in a lot of their applications so like k-mail as it comes out of the box almost completely unusable it's just not a good experience and uh if that's the way with a lot of the katie applications is that their defaults just aren't that great you can make them fantastic like you can make k-mail into literally anything you want in terms of like organizations to-do lists not to-do list but to-dos calendars all that stuff and you can organize it and make the ui hook however you want and create a workflow and do a ton of stuff but that all requires a lot of effort and a lot of knowledge of how to do it you got to know that that stuff is there and so better defaults for their applications would see them like miles ahead of where they are now because their defaults right now are for a lot of the times not very good at all so and the one thing you can say about gnom is that their defaults applications are stupidly simple like seriously every single gnom application does its job and yeah like i said say what you will about gnom and all the features that they've taken out and the lack of customization and all that stuff but if you go into their calendar application it's a fucking calendar application it does the things that the calendar application needs to do and no more and while yeah you can't customize it at all at least it does that job you know yeah um it serves the function perfectly that's it i just spent like at least a minute there praising gnom i need to all right i need a bucket hold on hold on is this mass podcast i'm pretty sure i'm a good person now i'm just saying good lord um i gotta rotate my headphones here because my ear's falling asleep and that has a weird weird weird sensation when your ear falls asleep i'm just saying i didn't know that was a thing apparently it is um anyway so that's the thing about this whole comparison thing is that when you use gnom as a new user you have at least a really good chance of being able to use everything that they send you now once you've progressed past that point and want to do customizations that's where gnom fails that falls down with kde it's the opposite thing they're they're built in applications aren't the most user friendly there's the system settings aren't usually for user friendly at all but if you can get past that get to the point where you actually want to use those settings uh you you at least have that opportunity to do so where you wouldn't have that opportunity on gnom so um i think the biggest problem is for this whole idea of kde taking over is that their defaults aren't great and it would require a tremendous amount of work on the part of distros to make those defaults better so like if if ubuntu wanted to go through and use kde is their default now they're going to ditch gnom they'd have to go through and make sure every single application was new user friendly because the vast majority of people come to ubuntu probably are new or newish users and if those defaults aren't good they're not you new user friendly then good work then their um ability to use that desktop environment slash distro is just going to be non-existent wow no we it was a roller coaster man we went we started off with the main topic and then we went into oompa loompa land we came out to the main topic it was pretty good all right uh let's just wrap this up this is this has been there's nothing like a good roller coaster over the podcast come on now seriously i'm gonna take those off now i can't see anything but that's okay i can't see anything with a mom um all right now every week we go through and have picks tips tricks something of the week we don't know what to call it uh it's because we're not talented or creative enough to come up with an actual name for ourselves that's just so true i mean it's just the most true thing i've ever spoken uh and this week is no different so tyler what is your pick of the week i'm sure uh my pick of the week is something i'm definitely going to get bullied for uh 100 percent um now as far as i know this is only works on like windows and may work on mac i have no idea um i'm 99 percent sure it does not work on uh linux because i'm pretty sure the version that i downloaded was probably built for windows xp um it looked old as dog poo but this is a program that like it's kind of um it it's a gooey application for designing and modeling trees without actually having to model you like it gives you a whole bunch of different sliders and variables to affect and like procedurally generate uh like uh tree branches and you can make those into trunks make more branches off of them and then add leaves to that and then um it does all of the complex thing like vertex painting and all of this stuff to make a model that you could use in a game engine and it's primarily used for unreal as far as i know it can be used in others that's what it's made for um it's a really nice really cool tool i had a lot of fun playing around with it i'm not using it for my game but um just in case anyone else is like into that kind of stuff or you're like that sounds like something that would be fun to play around with um it looks like a virus but it's actually a really cool tool and i haven't used windows in a long time but windows looks like a virus so i'm just gonna put that out there all right um that does sound cool but obviously not anything that i'd be interested in seeing is how it doesn't run on Linux also because i'm not a game developer like at all zero i mean is there such a thing as a negative game like i'm pretty sure if you let me near your game i'd probably take away from it i'd probably i'd probably give it a virus or something all right good lord uh i you're the one that slipped deprived you i'm the one acting like i'm just saying hey i'm surprised that i am even still like i was really really nervous that i was gonna fall asleep like nine o'clock in the morning and then fall asleep like a rock and then just sleep like sleep until like 15 minutes before the podcast wake up just scared like oh god more like 15 minutes after the podcast oh shit man i'm sorry that's probably more likely that's happened before i'm just saying all right uh that's the thing is i hold grudges by the way so you know that like i'll never let you live anything down all right so man just so you know i don't all right us missing yesterday i'm fine with a man you deserve it all right you knew i had a time i got like i that's where he's why i asked um there's gonna be some days like that just where i just think like i'm sorry tyler i've been busy all day long i don't want to talk to you okay and look i and i'm just i'm just i'm just reminding you i'm just reminding you i don't hold grudges man like it's fine when i tell you i don't want to talk to you it's not really a you problem it's more like i don't want to talk to anybody like so i've had enough of that's what they all say it's really not a personal thing it's just i don't want to talk to anybody because i've had enough of people for the day if i talk to one more person i'm going to commit homicide all right well a day full of dealing with a whole bunch of people at some point you just want to tap out people man we need some okay there's a reason why a cabin in the woods sounds really appropriate sometimes you know like really appealing uh there tyler's gonna go out on his wagon i'll be out in the middle of the woods in the middle of the woods the only problem is there's no fucking internet out there and that's the biggest problem that's the problem if there's internet i'd be good anyway so my app of the week is called q prompt now for the most part this is a useless lap for most people most people don't need a teleprometer i'm just gonna put that out there um but i've decided that i'm gonna go through and actually start a new youtube channel for my history stuff and see if i can make a go that in fact can do that then i don't have to work a main job but we'll that's a pipe dream at the moment but the thing is is that if i'm going to create a history channel i can't be as how do i put this actually off the cuff as my elinix channel has turned out to be um so i needed a q i needed a teleprompter of something so that i could i don't have to just you know read a uh like a block of text and something that actually acted like a teleprompter so q prompt is that application it's fairly new and it has a ton of settings like ton just absolute ton of settings there's ton of customization you can do uh it's kind of like a kd kd app in that way that you can go through and just change a ton of different stuff about it and it's a really good it's native i don't think it's written in electron but i could be wrong about that but it's still uh it's still really really good and um yeah if you are the type of person who does need a teleprompter and you're going to start scripting stuff q prompt is probably something you should check out uh no somebody asked me if i was going to start scripting for the linux cast the channel the linux channel i was like no i don't i don't i think i've cultivated reputation where bullshitting has kind of gotten me through and i think that i will keep that reputation going on forward uh although i do believe that i've gotten a little bit better little more well spoken in the year and a half or so that i've been doing this uh there's not so many ums as there used to be like i i went through and watched one of my first videos the other day and why would you do that so when i first when i first started doing actual videos like to begin with it was just the podcast right and then i decided i was going to do linux videos when i first started doing those i didn't even edit the damn things like i literally recorded them and posted them that was awesome all there was there was no editing whatsoever on there so every um awe and and and you know far all everything was there like i didn't even had any of them and you could tell like you can really freaking tell it's really bad and the thing is like one of those has like 10 000 views like people people have watched that zen wiki video which i'm pretty sure was my very first video like a lot of times and it's like i'm so i'm so embarrassed that that's actually magic i think that's and the thing is at that point i wasn't even appearing on camera like i would i was a little gun shy on the whole camera thing for a while i wish i'm so jealous mine's a cutile video it's so bad and am i my face is in it and it's so bad so i i have an i have a how to customize i3 video it's my most most viewed video has over 30 000 views and it's one of my earliest videos so it's not great it's not the it's not as bad as the first video it's like you could see some progression like it was a little better it was definitely edited and there was my faith my face was in it but it still compared to the things that i do now which still aren't all that great you know it's it was definitely not a great and the thing is like it's my most viewed video like and the thing is so i was like i was thinking i want to redo this video but if i redo it will that one then stop getting views again that thing sometimes holds my views some days with the number of views that it gets like i don't really want to go through and kneecap the damn thing and then ruin ruin it because what if the new the new video doesn't do as well but i'm eventually gonna redo it because i'm gonna have to but um yeah so uh tfl i like so um anyways that is uh good lord we did make it to an hour by the way by bullshitting we bullshitted at least half the time all right anyways why why did you get a bokeh effect now i'm just asking well someone in chat said i'm definitely running windows and it was like i'm just gonna turn this on and be like i don't know what you're talking about i don't know i'm running windows carlos has asked a couple times where's buddy oh um give me one second um let me turn off the background effect and uh switch over my webcam there's buddy yes hi buddy for those of you watching the video buddy has now appeared on camera he put his ears up like he knows he knows all right buddy there's there's buddy all right so that is it for this week uh coming up next week we're gonna be talking about let's just see here we're gonna be talking about i have no clue what we're gonna be talking about next week we're talking about something i have several options here i don't know what they're gonna be yet but anyways i think it's technically as tyler's turn next week so we should be talking about should linux uh lay with the devil and video we'll probably come up with a better title for that i'm just probably we don't want to invite the devil sleep deprive me coming up with an amazing title would be really surprising you remember the punctuation i'm just very impressed again so am i and i think it was like we we can't have punctuation in linux you can't use a question mark in a top in a file format and just saying apparently you can use file you can use question marks in windows in in file names okay you can't do that on linux i'm just saying well i i think you i don't think you can do it in file names i think you can do it in folders it's weird like that it's something like that yeah all right it doesn't matter you stop using windows yeah completely i'm just saying all right anyway i was just i was just in the online id and i was typing out a sin so my brain like sleep derived was just like you gotta punctuate there's a comment there's a question mark that you can't do that i'm like anyway so that is it for this time if you uh you want to support us on patreon patreon.com so next cast uh tyler also has a patreon uh thing uh patreon.com aka zany is that it i believe so yes okay if if you can't find it there's always my youtube channel uh with the about section you can find the links there as well as the discord where you will be able to come over there as always i'm always hanging out in general talk please feel free to come by and join and wait for matt to join us all this pressure man i don't know if i'm i don't know if i like it or not i don't like pressure oh pressure there's no pressure we're just gonna have a good time and hopefully uh successfully install manjaro and have a good time before i get out of this chair i will back up my computer so that it does that while i'm away and i will go through and actually download manjaro that way i have it installed and then i can just do do a dd onto a key here and we'll do it like we'll do this see i'm gonna roll baller style and i'm just i'm just gonna load the iso on a ventoy drive vento it doesn't work better for me ventoy works for me for everything but elementary os and all right anyways it's not elementary os before we go i should take a moment to thank my current patron sidae debon east coast web patrick ell primus marcus maglen jackson a tool steve sabragirlinix garak mitchell art center carmen day jeremy shon odin martin e which is a brand new uh member on youtube welcome friend merit camp josh really j dog peter a crucible dark bandit six thanks everybody for watching thanks everybody for your support we will be next back next week with an nvidia show which we'll be talking about nvidia i'm gonna be one minus torbols and this lucky one video and that says we're gonna that's gonna be the whole thing uh because i never had a good experience with nvidia on linux just never have anyway so that is a good preview for that wait for next week we will see you then boy