 say that hello hello all right so it's watch me work and it's um what day is it anybody know it's tuesday april seventh it's april seventh that's it thank you i think that was audrey six see how we can't do it without you uh it's april seventh it's watch me work it's a tuesday and um uh i'm gonna do a little blurb for anybody who's new to watch me work is anybody new to watch me work or or is at some point the one of you guys could just do the blurb for me because it's pretty much the same thing every day um this is watch me work i'm susan lory parks i've been doing this show for 11 years um in the lobby of the public theater and of course all around the world but mostly in the lobby of the public theater where we have uh done it live with an audience of writers and artists um courtesy of the public theater big thank you to them also today for helping it happen also howl around it has come on in recent years to help us livestream um and they are here today and they have been here all last week and they will be here forever helping us bring it to you guys so big thank you to both of those organizations um watch me work it the title is tricky because the the me in the title is you it's all about you and your creative process what we do we create this play if you will together the first 20 minutes we work together and then the remainder of the hour i take your questions about your work and your creative process so um you get to ask me questions about your work your creative process process and not product so if you've written something very beautiful we won't have the bandwidth of the time to share it here um i'm just interested in talking about your work and your creative process okay so we can have conversations that really will involve everybody um who's who's tuned in um i think i forgot like 12 things today Audrey what else do i have to say you sounded great so um um so if you want to ask a question and you're in the zoom what you need to do is um click on the raise your hand button it should be in a participant tab i think likely on the bottom of your screen if you're on a laptop or on the top of your on an ipad um it'll pop up a little icon so that we can see that your hand is raised and i will unmute you when it's time to speak um if you are watching on howlround.tv you can ask us questions on our social media channels uh at the public theaters uh instagram and twitter um and then you can also tweet at us at at watch me work slp uh with the hashtag howlround h o w l r o u n d and that's it well one of those days people i'm talking with my mute button on um we're going to work for 20 minutes and then we will have time to talk about your work uh your creative process okay so here we go oh yay yay all right all right so um that was the uh action part of the show and now we're going to do the dialogue part of the show where you guys are going to ask me questions about your creative process or your work so anybody have a question yeah we've got brian i'm right brian brian here we go hello hi hi we hear you um oh so nice um i'm calling in from vancouver canada so hello um it's always been nice the last couple days seeing my other van um canadian friends is elaine in in uh do you know elaine avila no okay okay anyway i'm just asking all your neighbors know each other about okay okay well you'll probably meet like tomorrow at the grocery store six feet apart okay awesome um thank you thank you so much for for doing this um my question i'm i've been trying to develop a writing practice i usually work not as a as a writer i'm a very reluctant writer um but i feel like a lot of that has been me telling that myself as opposed to someone else and um when i've been trying to put in the work in terms of coming to writing doing my 20 30 minutes a day um sometimes that ends up feeling like i'm i'm journaling or i'm writing about personal things that ends up being like i don't know what to write i don't know what to write i don't know what to write just to try at least generate something and i feel like sometimes that's um at the end of it that i haven't done the work because i've written the same thing the last four or five days um it's not all the time but but sometimes i feel like i have this um this obstacle and i'm feel like i feel like i didn't end up putting in the work because what came out was was a journal or a diary and that's not necessarily um what the intention was so i mean i think i totally hear you so you're you're you're putting the time in to your writing practice right um you're doing 20 30 minutes a day right um and for you brian it feels like you're you know i'm just paraphrasing you're journaling you know you're you're just writing personal stuff you're journaling and you don't feel like you're doing the work is that kind of a yeah right um because you feel like doing the work would what would doing the work feel like or look like to you sometimes when i'm when i have like a specific piece that i'm trying to write uh um day to day it changes what i'm when i'm trying to do um it's about at least trying to generate some form of content that is related to that uh and so to to leave that time with at least something that's somewhat related as opposed to um something that feels a little a little more like a journal right okay okay so i mean there are two there you know there there are many answers to every question you know i mean one answer is you know you are doing the work by putting the time in that's one answer right okay that's one answer but because doing the work would look differently for you i would suggest being a little do you know turn turn you know uh do you work you have a sweatshirt a t-shirt on do you work out do do you ever go to the gym or run or okay great have you ever used um a treadmill yeah okay uh great okay so say you just you know run flat or walk flat on a treadmill right that's your workout and you've been doing this for like every day you're like i'm not really seeing the fitness results i want right what would you probably do try and run faster try and run faster or you would they have you know those buttons where you increase the you know you know right you what is that incline right so you kind of increase incline a little bit so let's try increasing the incline a little bit right instead of saying you're doing great brian you go to the gym every day what's your problem okay that's journaling's fine brian right you're doing the work let's increase the incline by saying if you have something that you do want to work on and you say it changes from day to day okay why don't we say pick one project and stick with it for let's just say one week okay and every day your assignment is not just to sit down and journal not just to go to the gym and walk on the flat treadmill but to go to the gym and walk on a slight incline sit down and when you write stick to that subject see what i mean so when you find yourself varying off of the subject right come back to it so say your subject's about you know i don't know it's a romantic comedy involving two awesome people living in a city okay when you find yourself just writing about something that's not that right wait a minute i bring yourself back to it do you understand is that i mean does that sound weird you i can't no i think i think i think i'm afraid i'm afraid sometimes they'll come to that obstacle and then my my mind will blank and so in an effort to just put in the work is to put in whatever is coming to mind and then that ends up being the journal okay that's okay okay so so let's say in an effort to put in the work put in things that in some way relate to the topic at hand so if you're writing along you say okay i'm going to try to figure out the specifics of this i'm imagining a rom-com about two wonderful people in an urban you know in a city right and you hit a wall now you start thinking okay what are 10 stupid things that could happen between them right now you see so i'm asking myself a question i'm giving myself a prompt a writing prompt that is directly related to my chosen project right but by me asking myself to write down 10 stupid things i am lowering the bar you should i mean i'm keeping it manageable you see so you're you're you're encouraging yourself to stay on the path but you're also uh you know kind of keeping it loose a little bit you know what i mean so when you hit that block i don't know what to write right i don't know what to write about my two characters in my romantic comedy so the next line is it well let me just think about what happened to me today none of that's getting off the subject right i don't know what to write about my two characters in my romantic comedy so let me just think what are their names what could their names be here are 10 stupid names for one person and they're 10 stupid names for the other person okay now how could they meet i don't know i don't know what to write about how they could meet okay here are 10 stupid ideas they have to be stupid because by saying stupid you're giving yourself you're lowering the bar right and you're giving yourself you're giving yourself a chance to just be loose with it and i i guarantee one of those ideas is going to make you smile and once you're smiling and you're like i like that idea they could meet at starbucks they're both wearing masks and they talk about robin a bank or something that's good okay i'll go with that like that you see and you're charming yourself and you're charming your story or your play or your song or whatever to you right right yeah you see what i mean so you're kind of you're encouraging yourself to stay on the path that's the thing okay for someone just so you know for someone who couldn't pick up their notebook every day right you know i want to write but i have trouble picking up my notebook and sitting down and writing then we would just say journaling is fine but you're you're past that point brian so we're going to give you we're going to we're going to increase the incline a little bit okay great i'm definitely still afraid but i'm going to try okay just try just remember 10 stupid ideas they have to be stupid they have to be stupid and when you get to know i don't know what to write next word about next word my next phrase subject that you've chosen for the week right i'm definitely good at stupid so i can do that see we all are welcome to welcome to the squad yo thank you okay thank you brian thanks brian um all right the next person we have is adam adam hello hi hi um my question is about scope um i feel like one piece of writing advice that i've gotten a lot uh that's actually been really helpful it's specifically um building character and realizing making character drive the story in the plot um and the struggle i'm having with that is that i'm building i'm getting very generative about building these characters knowing their back stories and i'm i feel like i'm at a point where initially i wanted to tell a story that was set um in one year between two people and now i'm very invested and interested in everything that has led up to that and i feel like my play if i write it with everything i want to happen in it right now will be like 17 hours long and so i'm thinking about scope and specifically how to create structure amidst the chaos of like creative energy right right cool cool so so um you're doing you're writing a play about the year in the life of these two characters two characters did i get it right i would say two protagonists yes two protagonists great and you you really let character drive the story that's sort of been a great note that you've gotten and so now your let character drive the story has encouraged you to do a lot of not research but discovery about the back stories of your characters i call it research because it is almost like research even though you're making it up yeah yeah and a lot of us get lost in research yeah it's like it's like if it were a historical character um and historical character you you might be spending all your time you know online or whatever you're researching all this yeah right right so you have to know when to stop right yeah yeah i suppose the one way to put it is that i feel like i i'm interested in these characters because they're helping me drive towards this theme or this idea that i'm trying to explore a question but then as their stories build up i feel like everything feels integral or part of the plot and i don't know where what is backstory versus what is the story that i'm telling right right and this right and the backstory is the stuff that it's like you know mulch and the tree or you know what i mean so what and what we i quote i give this roomy quote i think it was you know wisdom is knowing what to what to ignore and what to pay attention to it's not that i want you to ignore parts of your characters but i do want you to focus again like kind of like brine you got to focus on what is is the most important thing and you're going to focus on aspects of their character that are going to actually drive your story so if i sat here and start talking about you know i was i was born in you know that's not going to answer your question right even though it might be really interesting or maybe not um but it's true and it's part of my life it's not going to help drive this conversation right it's going to help get this conversation off track right what i'm doing is i am focusing on what's going to drive this conversation so the fact that one of your characters might um i don't know have uh no toes or something might be interesting might drive the story that's a random silly thing i just chose but um you have to think which details are going to drive the story which details tell you something about what the character wants because it's not just historical stuff that we're interested in as uh writers as dramatists it's it's stuff that helps you generate action right so the fact that hamlet likes potatoes right it's interesting maybe you know what i mean right but the fact that he has a real problem with his uncle is the thing that we're really wanting to focus on right you see what i'm saying you see how we were so we're not going to have him give a speech about potatoes necessarily even though there might have been in the earlier draft we are going to give have him give speeches about his uncle you see the difference so we just have to choose um also your play might be 17 you know whatever you know and you can write that play too i'm not saying don't write that play but if you want to write a short if you want to write a play that's a certain thing then you have to choose that doesn't mean it can't be very rich in detail right okay yeah um thank you yeah okay thank you thanks so much um all right next we have Hannah yeah we can hear you cool hi s lb um thank you so much for doing this it's really Hannah Hannah hi hi hello how are you i'm good um now i can do i can come to watch me work from england so it's wonderful yay we're in england aren't you girl huh we're in england are you um in hampshire yeah how are you parents yeah i hear you um you too um my question is about a kind of problem i think i've had for like as long as i've been writing and it feels like i kind of immature writer problem um which is that um my supporting characters i.e like not my central antagonist and protagonist um kind of fizzle out halfway through the script um and so i'm just i i feel like i don't know how to give them a suitable arc or if they even need an arc but i just don't know how to keep them keep them in there and keep them meaningful um and i end up kind of either cutting them and making it a two-hander or making kind of a jumbly ensemble piece even if that's completely not what the play is um and yeah uh huh yeah writing the that's a great question writing those um those you know if you will smaller characters um can be tricky and do you even if you you know you give your big character sort of a big fat arc right a big fat storyline yeah nice and rich and full of all kinds of things and then you give your smaller characters maybe a thinner storyline you know um do you do you um spend any time sort of detailing out the beats of your smaller character storylines not so much i have sometimes but i feel like they when i do that i end up i don't know if it's like i'm focusing too much on them and then i like feel guilty then but they're not a big enough character i try and make them the main character oh oh well okay but but now you're gonna trap now you're gonna trap no i would say go ahead and and i mean for example it depends you know say it's a character about a woman and her mother will just say a woman and and her spouse and the mother is one of the less smaller characters right and we're going to put her like this is the mother character right so in this version of the show the daughter is the main character and the daughter's spouse or the daughter's child they're up here and the mother is back here right so this version of the character of the mother is you know kind of you know right but she still has a storyline right she's still doing she still wants things maybe for the daughter maybe not maybe for herself you know now that's one version of the story that's one version of the play you don't have to feel guilty because in another version that someone else might write or you might write at a later time you might do this yeah you say to me so it's not like you're sort of giving the mother character the short shrift you know yeah because she's kind of in the background if you will you just right now you're focusing on this i mean it's like it's like a hamlet again i mean you know it's it's it's Gertrude isn't you know Gertrude isn't up here right Gertrude back here but she's doing some cool shit you know claudius isn't really up here claudius is kind of back here but he's doing the ghost right yeah they're all kind of back here and that's kind of cool you know in a way um Shakespeare does that really well he does give his his smaller characters you know some cool story lines yeah i mean lady mcbigh right she's got that oh she's our she's our she's our patron saint folks yeah he's washing her hands she's washing her hands uh anyway okay but but you know what you see what i mean right you can look at some of those smaller characters and know that it's only because you've decided to focus on the character you've decided to focus on yeah and these other characters gladly let me tell you how happy they are to be in your play and how happy they are to help right and they don't mind that they're not the main character they're happy doing this shit that's cool right that's some cool shit to do back there whoo whoo look how much fun they're having doing their look journey next time around they know it's going to be them in another incarnation if you look at it from another angle it is all about them the mother thinks it's all about her lady mcbigh thinks it's all about her doesn't she whoo look at me in the background okay so put in the time to these minor characters um and and really know that they're very happy to be included okay okay because if you can develop a major character you can develop a minor one i know i know you i know you can do it okay hi thank you thanks and um all right up next we have tammy great thank you um and thank you so much for being here i really really appreciate it it's the first kind of week i've been able to attend all right um so i have been writing a sort of multi character solo show from other people's perspectives if that makes sense and the way that i've been able to try and get into those characters is sort of making them amalgamation of you know real people and and making them fictional and i'm really stuck on one particular character and i'm having a lot of trouble writing their their piece i can't seem to get into their head um and i don't know if it's because it's too personal and i'm kind of it's someone that i have a lot of dislike for and i wonder how you would advise kind of opening up to that character or sort of finding a way to to find their voice without that judgment and making them human and finding out what they actually need to say mm-hmm wow that's pretty exciting sounds like an exciting project tammy thank you um so this this character you don't like you don't like them so they're and correct me from they're based on someone you know no yes yes aha they're based on someone you know inspired by sure sure sure i'm inspired by them a little bit too much okay okay great what can you what can you change about them can you change their you mean you know what i mean so inspired by a little too much so how can you step back from that person that you know into more of a person that you're creating is there anything that you can change about them that you you'd kind of enjoy like if they're a if they identify as male could they be someone who identifies as female if they you know if they're tall could they be short if they're could you you know you see what i mean is there anything about them you could change up to create some distance or that you'd want to or you want them to be i'd love to change some things okay and then they i somehow get stuck and it doesn't seem true and i i think because all these different character monologues are in relation to this main character um who is i guess inspired by my own life and so maybe i'm getting too caught up in what he means to her that i i it for some reason this one feels really rigid and i uh i don't know what to change well pick choose something maybe just and i'm not saying to to be final about it i'm saying to give yourself a way in you know what i mean like is he is this character really smart no then make them smart okay you see what i'm saying give yourself a way in change it up a little bit um you know so make them they're really smart make them um how smart could they be could they be i mean you know in a real way university educated maybe very well that's interesting okay just kind of change it a little bit to give yourself again we're creating distance and whether you after you've sort of started hearing their voice you can change it back to the way that you if you want it the other way or whatever are they are they uh handsome in real life in real life are they handsome no no make they're in their handsome okay are they funny do they make jokes um really off-color jokes like really like inappropriate jokes inappropriate jokes and do people laugh at these inappropriate jokes he does he does great you can make this person be very witty and everybody laughs oh my god he's the life of the party he's the kind of person who goes into the party and there's a piano and they play and everybody loves them or something i don't know i'm all i'm saying is you can change up things about the character so that you can meet them in a fresh way so that maybe you can like you can not like them but you can sort of be interested in hearing what they have to say i like that thank you you know let's see if it works okay because you're smiling now this that's something thank you thank you all right up next we have viviana whoa i didn't actually think i'd be chosen okay uh oh and now i'm nervous i actually got picked i did for fun okay hello um okay i guess um so my question is very i guess personalized to me and my particular circumstances um that um my current relationship to writing is like super weird um just because i like i've been a part of writing programs since i was 13 um i'm one of those kids um i actually think it's kind of messed i think writing programs are kind of messed up now um but anyway um and like i've written a book and i've written a play and like blah blah blah blah and like i have like cool accolades and like cool um but um my like relationship with my writing has just recently gotten very like anxiety inducing um like to the point where like i it's like it's like i've been in a long marriage and i'm kind and like and i wonder sometimes if i should get a divorce um and like i don't have an everyday writing practice and i've always like termed myself a project person um but i don't have a project right now um so like i feel weird and i like think about starting projects and then like like but then they let months go by and then i'm like and and mine um and right now actually i'm having lots of like the random thoughts i have are about theater projects instead of writing projects which is interesting but yeah i'm just like wondering if you have any advice for like finding joy in it again and like making it stop being a scary thing for like someone who used to find joy in it and now finds it scary yeah and you've been while you've been in writing did you say you've been in writing program since you were 13 yeah i went to like a magnet school um and then i go to columbia now um and i did creative writing as a major and then i switched to theater with acting as a concentration oh yeah and then i've like fell into playwriting uh like two years ago um yeah but like i'm very genre all over the place but yeah right well it's all writing i mean that's cool that's cool but finding fun in it i mean what would getting divorced from writing look like to you i mean so like it's very scary for me because i've like conceptualized of my identity as writer for such a long time um like i like i'm getting anxious even now like saying that i'm not a writer anymore um but like i have like had the thought of like this thing makes me so anxious that i wonder if it's even good for me um but i don't think i don't know it's yeah so i like getting divorced would mean like it's no longer like a pressing issue in the back of my mind that i don't write all the time or don't have a project right now um and like i've i've like given myself units of time where i let like i studied abroad in morocco a year ago and i was like and it was journalism thing um and i let myself like not be a writer that semester and it was so easy and so nice but then i also knew that i would like start thinking about writing again and yeah um and then after that i had to write a play for a a theater company and i kind of slogged through it and then later realized i don't think i actually wanted to write that play but it was good i guess um yeah do you have any um any bills that need pain because of your writing no i i mean i'm about to graduate this semester and money job but so but so it's not like if you took a breather from from writing it wouldn't you know put your household in in financial jeopardy no i'd probably just feel weird though no it wouldn't no it wouldn't i i would i would feel weird come back to i mean because it's like it's like what do you do you don't you want to take a break from it so uh you could you know double down and write every day and see what happens but you've been writing since you were 13 you're like you know i gotta say when you're talking i was like john benet ramsey those three words came to my mind you know i'm like oh um a couple of months just chilling you know um enjoying yourself doing something that you really want to do you know think of things that you really want to do um you know i mean sure writers write but there are plenty of writers who take you know hiatuses you know you can take a hiatus for take a hiatus for like a week and just say i'm not going to write this week i don't feel like it it when sometimes we get into things like john benet ramsey does everybody know what i'm talking about when i say john benet ramsey you know a lot of times we get into things when we're young and we identify attach our self-worth with these things when we're very young uh not very young but you know 13 is pretty young and we get accolades and appreciation and approval for certain things and we think who am i if i'm not that if i'm not doing that anymore right i'm not to diminish the quality of your writing or your commitment to the craft but if you're feeling that way now the way you're feeling now i would say a week off just you know seeing what else there might be out there where do you live do you live new york where do you live i'm i'm dorming at columbia right now i don't know where i'm going to live after this okay no no but what i mean is where are you living right now so right now you're at columbia university right and on the upper west side so what i'm saying is you could uh if it's you know if you feel it's safe and appropriate you could go outside wearing your mask and washing your hands after you come inside you could go outside for a walk and just breathe and look around you know why don't you see what else where your mind wanders you know what i'm saying it's a also it might be in response to graduating and maybe you don't want to be a professional writer you know you know you can take a week off take a week off see what happens you know i mean um you know i don't i don't know a lot of people get into writing for different reasons some people have to pay the rent some people have to you know prove themselves to their parents or all kinds of things um you know you just have to sort of give yourself the space especially these days it's very we're under very stressful times these days and a lot of things are uncertain you know and and weird you know and different and you can't even go outside without wearing a mask and do you even have a mask i made one out of a cloth i got in Cambodia you know you know i'm saying so it's a lot of it's a lot of uncertainty right now and confusion and people are worried and people are dying you know of of complications of this thing so it's okay to take a week off and just say i'm just going to breathe and meditate maybe you know and maybe listen to music you know do you like listening to music i like dancing well there you go so put on some music and dance you know instead of sitting down at your desk and writing and doing working on a project that you really don't want to work on put on some music and dance for 20 minutes a day and let that be your writing practice do you see what i'm saying yep oh my god i'm crying what the heck well it is it is a time for tears people it is a time for tears and crying is is a sign of strength you know there's nothing there's nothing wrong with weeping a lot of people take you know crying and tears is a sign of weakness i i am i do not believe that i think tears are a sign of strength you are feeling things that's good we need to feel things so take a week off but you know i tell you what take a week off but why don't you come back here to watch me work we do it five days a week you know Monday through Friday just come back here you don't have to write you can just go we're all working you know you can just go maybe you want to write that's cool then then write if you want to but if you don't that's fine just sit here and hang out with us okay because we're your squad and we're gonna hang out with you we'd love to hang out with you yeah i'm trying to make this my Tuesday thing there you go then let it be your Tuesday thing okay okay thank you thank you so much all right we've got about three minutes left should we do one more all right we've got crystal hi hi again crystal how you doing i'm good good to see you how's jersey it's so jersey um so i i have been on every day since since we started and um i think i told you i was having trouble like just finding inspiration finding anything to write about and um so i just tried to find time to just just think and i did the letter thing to like trying to find that creative voice again i gave her a name and wrote to her um and didn't hear anything then i had like a not a voice but like a person sort of a person and then like a set of people but no story just like a person and and i'd like it was an asian girl and then like four four or five black girls and and it was in brooklyn and it was asian black relations and that's all i have and i kind of was like okay i have this now but i don't know where to go with it i feel like it's like writing 101 like i i've written plays but i feel like i don't know what i'm doing anymore um and how to get back into like trying to find a story and trying to find them again um so i guess i i guess what i'm saying is even writing i've done also the letter thing where i'm trying to hear it for um but it's just very general so i guess i guess i'm trying to figure out what's next what where do i where do i do next that's cool okay crystal we can do again our our 10 stupid things you know what could these people be doing you know mm-hmm um you could do some character biographies but like i said too was it bright who was it in the beginning uh whoever was in the not to get too yeah not yeah there's bright not to get too uh uh adam not to get too sort of not to overdo it with your character biography right so you want to do some character biographies on them and get some specifics about these characters okay and then start thinking about where these characters might intersect are they roommates do they live in the same building do they live on the same block do they go to say the same school you know mm-hmm what's their story do they work in the same place or you know yeah they live they live well they live in the same neighborhood and one it's like a beauty supply store that's that's next to one of the girls houses okay great okay okay so just get specific on who these people are right okay i mean and then what are they doing and what do they want each character this one wants this this one wants to do that this one and then where are the intersections of their stories you know yeah okay okay and see how far you get with that and your ideas that you come up with don't have to be good again they can be they can be stupid okay just because you just want to turn out a lot of ideas and then you want to look at it you go and go okay um i like this idea i like this idea okay yeah and then start telling yourself the story so there are these four women and this one's this and this one's this and this one's this and this one's this and then they do this and this and this and then this one does that and this one does that and then the end they do that you see yeah you want to start telling yourself the story of your play novel you know whatever you know theater piece film tell a play, right? Yeah. Yeah. Does that make sense? It makes total sense. Yeah. Just ground yourself in the story as much as possible. I would say, instead of thinking so much about the the issue, you know, Black-Asian relations, okay? Dig deeper now. Dig deeper. You know what I'm saying? Tell me the story, you know? Because I mean, you could say, okay, Hamlet's about father-son relations. Oh, geez. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A lot more than that. You know, right? So we want to dig deeper than that. We want to give me something. Give me something that I'm going to go, wow, cool. I'm leaning in now. You know? Give me some stuff about characters, okay? And that comes from writing the ten stupid things about. That comes from just thinking about your characters. Okay. No. This character wants this. This character wants this. She's doing this. She's doing this. Okay. Okay. And how and telling yourself the story of your play. Practice by if you want read a play that you like and and then quote, you know, read a play, right? Yeah. And then tell yourself the story of that play. That's really good practice, right? So if you like, I don't know what, but I'm looking around to see if I can haul these plays themselves. But read a play and then tell yourself the story or even type it out. This is the story of Hamlet. This is how it goes. Get in the habit of telling yourself the story. Okay. Okay. Because the issues can be kind of summed up like, you know, like a thumbnail. Like what? Like a thumbnail sketch or, you know, telegram from Western Union, right? Yeah. You want something more than that. Right. Okay. I can work on that. Yeah. Awesome. Well, it is 6.04. Shall we come back tomorrow? Yes, let's come back tomorrow. Amazing. So as a reminder, if you want to sign up for a class, sign up by 3 p.m. each day on the public theater website. Today we had an issue. It seems like some people didn't get the link. So if you don't see an email tomorrow and you signed up, check your spam folder just in case. But other than that, I think we're here Monday to Friday, 5 p.m. Thanks. Thank you guys. Thank you people. See you tomorrow.