 You can't have been recording with Brian all the time now, you know, because you can't have built up a relationship with him, and he knows what I want and what he wants, you know, so... He's an easy man to work with. He's very good. He's 100%, like, and he gives 100%, which is even better, you know. Exactly, you know, Brian's good about it. He teaches everybody equally, you know, so... He's flat out. He's doing well. But, so, what have you recorded up until recently, I mean, sorry? Recently, there's a new one just come out there a couple of weeks ago. A song called You Lie To Me. That one has just been released just a week past on Friday there. Okay. So, the one previous to that, she don't look that lonely to me. We'll manage together. That's been my biggest or best so far. That got to number five in the hot desk, UK and Irish. Very good. Yeah, it done very well for me. And Gigan Wise Norman. I've seen you down last night by... Martin Orr was his last name. I was. I dropped him to see Martin. Did you do a song or two? I didn't know. It was passing by. So, he's going all day. I'm going to cover his gig down there. Oh, good man. Very good. He's away, but... Some thing going down there now, isn't it? Martin is a great friend of mine. I have to say, you know, and he's so helpful and... You know, and he's just a great guy, you know. He does so much behind the scenes that, you know, people don't know about him. There's a lot for charity, but there's a lot of things going on. Oh, that's it. Exactly. I agree with you totally, but... So, you'll be down there now for a week or next Sunday, is it? No, he goes in holidays in September. Oh, right, okay. It's just the one Sunday. So, I'll be covering that with a holiday. And this week, you're... What are you playing this week? This week, we're doing Truck Fest in Milford. Very good. We're on to Half Pass 9 with my band there, so... Your full band? Yeah, it's just something that they've kind of put together, because the Truck Fest was a bit... You know, what, over COVID, it just... You see, everything just went sort of like everybody nearly giving up one time. Now, when it's back, you're just going right... Yeah. You're not singing us with music now, do you? Yeah, over the COVID was... I kind of used it as a time to record, you know, and sort of, you know, try and get music out there, you know. That's good. Well, that's what we first tracked. We're going to take... Norman, this is... What's that one called? Oh, you... You laid to him... You laid to the new... I can't even read. You laid to me. You laid to me. You laid to me. That's the card new, and that's the one that's just... Who's originally done that? Charlie Pryde. Charlie Pryde? Yeah. Oh, top, top, top class, you know. What was it going to say? Can you say something else to you there? The turn, but do you be out much? We're starting to get out now, you know. Sort of the... The COVID thing can erect a wing for everybody. It's erect for everybody, and, you know, we've only got sort of clear that, what March this year, April claim this year. And you know yourself, it was cleared as quickly as it came. I know, I know. It was just a light switch, you know. So we didn't really have time to prepare for anything, really, you know. And then before you know who you are, you're into the spring, you're into the summer, you're into festivals and, you know... Do they keep you busy, Norman, the festivals and stuff? No, I haven't done any festivals this year. That's what I'm saying. You know, there's been so much happening. It's kind of hard to get going, if you know what I mean. We did a few nights in... with the band, the country, Thursdays over in Castle Fun. Oh, yeah, yeah. But again, it was probably the wrong time of year to be doing a special Thursday night, you know. It's hard to get people out again too, but... Yeah. Depends where you're going to be. Yeah, yeah. But you have this album that's done now and all, good to go whenever the time is right. I've got a new album done ready to go, yeah. And do you write any of your own material? I don't, but I'm going to have to try a thing. Non-ventured, non-game. I don't know what I write about, writing a thing. I don't know, you can publish it while you know you just don't know. You can think of something, no doubt. You said you recorded Derry McFlavin as well recently. We did a duet with McFlavin Little Mountain Church. Which did pretty well for us as well. And we did one with Jerry Guthrie as well. Jerry Norgritzlinger. Yeah, a lovely guy too. And we did one with Patricia McGuire as well. Oh, well, Patricia and his new album. And I have another two duets done as well that haven't come out yet. So, again, we're trying to get something, you know, get mates organized that we can have these duets as well. I suppose it's not that easy to do that. It's not that easy. No, it's not that easy. Getting everybody to work on the whole thing. Melly's in the band, were you Norman? Five of us. Five of you? Yeah, thank you. I love to get golden, you know. Of course, I ended up five of you. Well, it's just live, you know. Oh, I prefer the live stuff to be on. But the Javen's big still, isn't it? It is. People love the Javen. But, you know, the American country music is making a huge comeback. Is it? I think so, anyway. Yeah. Especially, you know, the older stuff, I've always said take the older stuff and get it modernized a wee bit. You'll give it a wee bit better feel than what it, you know. And that's what I did. I did that with one of Don Wilder's songs. A song called Gloving News Like Going Home. Oh, I know. Or Like Coming Home. So we put a wee bit more Brad Paisley sort of feel to it. It's kind of that, pretty good. Yeah. And that worked well for us as well, you know. So, yeah, I like the older stuff. I like to copy the old stuff. Who would have been, you know, who would be your sort of favorite artist? The older one would have been your, sorry, your Meryl Haggard and George Jones, you know. Randy Travis. Yeah. And Alan Jackson, you know. But there's a lot of new guys coming on. Look Holmes. I like the stuff that look Holmes. What do you call that, or? Fuller T. Moe Patney. Moe Patney's very good. Ah, he's class. Yeah. Brad Paisley's good as well, you know. Ah, Brad Paisley, you know. But Moe Patney for a young lad, he's some voice, you know. But as you say, the old ones are classed too, you know. We're going to take another track. What's this track, Jimmy, we've got here. It's the second one. Well, the one that has done the best for me so far, she don't look that lonely to me. This was written by a guy called John Fulbert. Uh-huh. Who's a songwriter based in London. And he contacted me through Facebook really. Uh-huh. He had heard and he sent me some stuff and he sent me that song and asked me if I'd be on the list of them recording that one. So, and again, you know, as you know, when a songwriter gives you a song, he can't do anything with the lyrics, but he can do about it with the tempos and so on. So, you know, when a melody was absolutely delighted with it. Brilliant. And that one has been my best achievement so far. So, as I say, it got to number five in the hot-dust charts. Is the charts an important thing for yourself, like as an artist, you know? I don't know. We're all right. We'll take this for you on here. We can't get that one lined up, but we'll take this track here. This is my Veronica. Oh, yeah. That's off my old album that I recorded whenever I came here. I see I'm home. I'm only home five years, you know. So, I recorded that. That was the album that I recorded with Brian when I came home first. First album. How long was that then? Five years. Five years. We'll have a listen to this.