 But it probably has had some repercussions out there. It has a very bad thing in the cables going out. It has a very bad thing in the cables going out. What happens? Give you an illustration. Fulbright talks to Lucet, the French ambassador, and we read a lot of this stuff that goes out, and he says that the reactionaries, and that's you and the Reagan's and the generals, have me over, and I'm a captive, and Eisenhower even warned against these complexes taking over the president, but that I am a warm-monger, and I'm really trying to get China destroyed, and that the French ought to use any influence they can on me, that the country is kind of irresponsibly led, and that the fascists are taking over. Kind of the pitch that they made, even 34 against Goldwater. Now they come along with Kase, who is a brilliant young liberal moderate, and he says that you cannot have any confidence in leadership. That's the Communist line. That's what they put out North Vietnam every day. They told the Canadians who were there last week that you've got a program made in the USA, and you cannot have any confidence in the USA. The Communists always say to destroy the leadership. Then they come along with Morton, and they have him say about the same thing, a little different approach that the president's been brainwashed by. He doesn't say reactionaries. He says, general, it's an industrial complex, and so forth, and that we ought to stop the bombing. Now, they are being used. All these men are, and it's hurting our country, and it's hurting it very, very bad. If we're going to ask these 500,000 men to stay out there, we can't have every senator being a general, and every senator being a Secretary of State. We either got to support them and back them up and try to carry out our program, which is not a violent one. It's not a program of retreat, and it's not a program of conquest. It is a program to deter aggression, which we're doing very well. But Westmoreland came in last night to me. He's very distressed. We've got a three-page legal size, single line, single spaced teletype from him. And he says that he has concentrated more firepower in bombing in the last week on the DMZ, and they've concentrated more on us than's ever been concentrated in any equivalent period in the history of warfare, much more than was ever poured on Berlin or Tokyo, and that here's the only defense of the DMZ to stop this aggression up there where the North Vietnamese trying to come in is bombing their gun positions, the DMZ, and it would just be suicide if we stopped the bombing as these idiots talking about. When you say stop the bombing, you say kill more American Marines. That's all it means. So he is asking us to give him more bombers and to give him more to try to knock this group out that's wanted for two years to have a big invasion of the DMZ, and he has been able to deter them, and they haven't had a military victory, and they're not going to get one, except they're winning one here. I want to read you a cable came in this morning from Bunker. It concentrates on the DMZ. Is this another den-den to you in the making? The two please split. Actually there's evidence that they're working much better together than they have in some time. Certainly this is my impression with talking with both of them Tuesday. The election irregularities. The most responsible opposition candidates, Heung, Hartuck, Key and Dan, have taken no part in these irresponsible charges. They're promoted principally by Zhu, whom everybody knows is a crook in control by the left wing, and Zhu is senile and is being used by these communist elements. How do you spell these names? S-U-U. And the other one is DZU. He was the land of the peace candidate. The newspaper closings, and by Silly's newspaper closing, these haven't caused a ripple here. Nobody seems to regret them. I believe the government has good cause to act to close them, that communist control. I regret to say that in a large segment of the American press, there's an obvious skepticism, a bias against our government, and therefore a tendency to place the worst interpretation on the acts of the government of Vietnam. I've been giving much attention personally to the press, both in background meetings individually and having them in for dinner in small groups in order to try to focus on the important things that are taking place here and to re-establish. For example, there's practically universal disbelief on the figures on casualties. I have yet to find a single reporter who would believe the body count. We must counter this by releasing the captured documents, which we have, which corroborate the figures that we give out, but the military has not let us release the documents up to date. Some of this is conditioned by what they believe, the press, to a beneficial optimism. Consequently, we're trying to be objective and realistic in demonstrating that we're making very steady, though not extremely spectacular progress, and that we're deftly moving ahead. Now, that's Munker. Westmoreland comes in and asks for extra authority for more pounding instead of less. B-52's there on the line. Now, their current Jag was negotiating now. In the last month, we can't announce this because we closed the channel, but in the last several months, we have said it good many times that we would consider stopping bombing if they would talk. They have said no every time, they will not negotiate. That's number one. Now, second, they ask us to stop bombing. Now, if we stop bombing without their token and without any reciprocity on their part, it just means we kill more Americans. That's all. But the people don't know that. So, they've got the case, and they've got Morton, and they've got the Bobby Kennedy's got this fellow Lowenstein hired for the ADA, and he's running around. And they told the Canadian this week, hand me this cable from the Canadian out of my pocket there. I don't want to read this into dirt, it's in my hand of those papers there right quick. This has to be confidential, but you have to know what's going on. The Canadian member, the ICC, as you know, there are three members, the Canadian, the Indians, and British. He had just spent two weeks in Hanoi. This is a cable of last Sunday. He was debriefed in Laos. He explained that the North Vietnamese attitude toward negotiation has, quote, harder than he had observed during his last visit to Hanoi two months ago. He told us that he had, quote, not even been able to get a nibble, unquote. He volunteered that in his opinion the North Vietnamese are prepared to wait the results of the U.S. 68 elections before changing their present attitudes and position. He asked them to consider the Canadian proposal with four points. They had Paul Martin's four point program and asked if this plan, especially point one, held any interest for the DRV. He said the North Vietnamese called this plan made in USA and refused to come here. He asked if the recent elections had altered the situation. The North Vietnamese Foreign Minister dismissed the election as a fraud and a farce and claimed their position was no way changed with elections. They were just USA fraud. Now that's their reaction this Sunday. Now, we don't have a single military man or a single civilian man that thinks that these people are ready to talk now. We think they're relying on the Senate. These speeches up there, and I think somebody's just got to tell these senators if you want to have some influence, come down here and we'll expose you and debate with you right in the cabinet room. But for God's sake, don't tell Ho Chi Minh that if he holds out another month we may stop hitting him because that's what he's hoping he can do. I don't know what's happened to Martin. I was shocked at him. Well, I just wanted to get that background. Thank you, my friend. Don't pay attention to that planet's story in the New York Times about Krulak. They're touting Waltz, you know. Well, Krulak is McNamara's choice. I hope he's yours. Well, I haven't decided. I like the David T. very much and I've given a good deal of thought to Krulak and I just haven't made any decision and I haven't talked to the chiefs about it or to McNamara. I thought that we don't have to do it until December, I believe, and I thought I'd sit down and go over it with him. I haven't seen the story in the Times. I don't know what it is. One other thing, I gave Martin two dates about that. General... The answer is yes. The first date's 14th. That's out. We have a conflict with some foreign aid visitor. Thank you.