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You want me to play some fantastic headlines music? Let's hear it. So I guess I'm going to start off with a really long headline about a phone. CNET reports that Motorola unveiled Moto X style today. It will be renamed Moto X Pure Edition for the U.S. and features universal LTE banding to allow it to work on any carrier. The phone has a 5.7 inch quad band high definition display, a 21 megapixel camera. A 5 megapixel front facing wide angle lens camera. Quick charge ability that charges the battery to 34% in 15 minutes, which is all you need to get home. A soft grip back and can be customized via Moto Maker. It will be available in September at $399, $399 U.S. dollars for an unlocked phone. Also unveiled the Moto Play with a 5.5 inch HD screen, a 3,630 MAH battery that can last two days on a single charge, eight hours of charge in 15 minutes using its quick charge capability. It also has a 21 megapixel camera and a 5 megapixel front facing camera. The Play smartphone will be available in August and will sell for $3 to $400 less than the competitor's high end phones. And finally, Motorola showed up a revamped version of the Moto G. It comes with a waterproof coating an updated 13 megapixel camera and a 5 megapixel front facing camera and comes with a 4G LTE standard. The G is available today for $179.99 U.S. dollars. Yes, I don't know if I'm believing any of those battery reports though. I, okay, so I ran with the Motorola for a long time. The special short-lived 4G LTE edition. Battery life is fantastic. They fixed everything that was wrong with the G for 180 bucks. It's a better camera. They've waterproofed it, which I'm really excited about. There's no reason to buy a phone on contract anymore. You don't think so? I don't think so. I don't know. I'm still one of those old school just feel like I want to own it. Yes, you can buy one of these for $180 and you own it. Oh yeah, that's right. That's what I was just saying. They're cheap. Now everyone can afford to have a phone with it. Well actually the question is, is how good is the camera? But if they've done what they should have done, it should have fixed. Because the Moto G camera, the problem was the sensor, not the actual processing. In this case, the sensor should be fixed. I'm really excited about this phone. Can you see how excited I am about this phone? I see he really loves it. He wouldn't stop talking this morning about the Moto this, the Moto that, oh anyway. I have issues. You want to hear about an awesome story coming out of Wired about an Israeli security researchers who have in fact found a really interesting way to steal data from air-gapped computers. That's computers that aren't connected to the internet and have been penetrated by USB sticks. So basically like people like hot glue, USB sticks, like the USB ports on computers, they like disconnect the internet cables and protect them from smartphones because smartphones got the Wi-Fi's. Well, the idea of an air-gap is that this computer is not hackable because it is not connected to a network. It has no wireless. We've never let anyone touch it with a USB stick and it's in a locked room. That's the idea. And this is the kind of computer that you put in a big nuclear facility. And this is the same thing where researchers at Ben Gertin University, Ben Girian, thank you, may have found a way to actually compromise these air-gaps systems using, get this, a GSM network, which are electromagnetic waves and it's basically a low-end mobile phone. Using a mobile phone as a receiver, the attack does not require the phone to actually... Sorry, I should say that the phone requires the... The attack requires the phone and the computer to have malware installed on them prior to doing this. So really what they're doing is they're demonstrating a way to exfiltrate data by radiating... They're actually using the lines of the bus. They're using all four data lines between the CPU and the RAM to basically chirp out a one or lack thereof would be a zero. As a covert channel to exfiltrate data, I did a little math. It turns out they're doing it at one to two bits per second. That could be just enough. But the crazy thing about this... Okay, it could be just enough. You know how long it would take to transfer a gigabyte at that speed? Well, somebody's playing the long game. Little over 250 years. That's a long time. The thing is though, what's freakish about this is that... And yes, it does require access to turn the fear and uncertainty and doubt knobs all the way down. But malware on a machine, software on a piece of hardware, software on a computer, software on a phone, and they will be able to communicate. Right. That's freakish. No, no, it's really cool. And I think we've even demonstrated on Hack 5 once just using audio modulation, 300-bod modem tones up in the air. You can receive those. So there's been a lot of... This is not the first time we've heard of attacks like this. Another example would be... Van Eck freaking. Right, exactly. That's basically what this is. And so it's cool because it's a nice little proof of concept. But caveat, it does require both the phone and the computer to have privately been owned, in which case, you know, all bets have been off quite a while. Physical security is important. All right, so... All right, so... Oh, hey, look. That's me. That's not delicious. That is. Can we fix that? All right, it's gone. Nope, still there. I cursed it. Hello. All right. Nine and five backwards. A T-mobile's next. Hello. Sorry. I have to add one thing in. Yes. Whoa. All right, guys. I'm hearing myself back on your line. Gentlemen. How about now? Now I don't. All right, I've got to throw in one about the one plus two because we lost it somehow. So allow me to tell you two more things about phones. Chinese low-cost premium smartphone maker one plus announced the one plus two, the successor to last year's one plus one today. The phone comes with a full HD 5.5 inch screen, a 1.8 gigahertz Snapdragon 810 processor, 3,300 mAh battery, dual SIM support, 32 gigabytes or 64 gigabytes of storage, a special alert slider, and shifts with Oxygen OS, a custom in-house ROM based on Android 5. One of the key features in Oxygen OS is shelf letting users swipe right on home screen to access frequently used apps and contacts. The device will support AT&T and T-mobile's LTE networks in the US and be sold unlocked. The 64 gigabit version will support, will sport 4 gigabits of RAM and be available in the US August 11th for $389 USD. A cheaper 16 gigabit model with a 3 gigabits of RAM will be available later for $329 USD. So more phones, more phones, more choice. Good for consumers. I'm down. Yeah, I'm as excited about this one as the mobile G though. I'm just thinking the name is silly but that's just me. This is true. They're running out of names, I think. And I have one more thing to tell you about phones now. 9 to 5 Mac reports that T-mobile has announced that the company is adding Apple Music to its music freedom free streaming service. T-mobile customers stream up to 131 million songs a day from 33 different music streaming services without impacting their data usage. CEO John Legere also announced that anyone buying an iPhone 6 this summer will get a free upgrade to the yet unannounced next-gen iPhone. And of course, we will all have much more to say about this in the discussion section. Patrick. Oh, I'm sorry. I was trying to figure out if I was... It's on Reuters reports. Right. Am I reading this one? Yeah, that's you. I didn't know that. Sorry. Again, stands for Patrick Norton. What are the reports? Is that what the color coding is? Yeah. It's all coming together for me now. Reuters reports that German regulators have ordered Facebook to allow people to use pseudonyms on the site. The Hamburg Data Protection Authority will changing usernames and asking for ID to prove real names as a violation of users' privacy rights. A woman complained to the one-side organization after Facebook blocked her account for using a pseudonym, requested her ID, and unilaterally changed her username. Facebook has maintained that it should only be subject to Irish law, which is where the company has its European headquarters. Oh my goodness. Yes. This is an interesting battle. They all go to Ireland. You notice that Google, Facebook, they all go to Ireland. It's a tax thing. Yeah, I know it is. But it's interesting. I mean, it's funny. If you want to do business in the EU, you do business by the EU's rules, which is mostly about privacy, which is really, really good. But one of the things that makes Facebook slightly tolerable on a good day is the fact that they do their best to associate a name with an actual human being and not a pseudonym, which of course creates a lot of problems if you change your name, if you're transgender, if you want to run a business that doesn't have an ID, per se, on Facebook. This is going to be interesting to see how Facebook deals with this. See, I think about it as just on the technical perspective. I kind of think about, okay, so I'm writing code, but I have to make it work on all these different browsers, so there's all these different hacks that I have to do to make it work in IE. And similarly, no pun intended, there's all these hacks that have to be done to make it work in IE, the country. Not just Ireland, but the entire European Union. So as long as the hacks don't impact the rest of the code base, if you will, then I'm cool with it, but the moment that, and I love the EU for pushing all of these privacy-related laws that are good for citizens there, but then just complicate the matter when you're a company trying to run a global business. So I just want my passport to the internet and let's just call it that. Well, I think the bigger problem for Facebook is that they follow the rulings of this court in Germany than the United States users are going to be like, well, I want to use a pseudonym. I don't want to have to use my real name. I want to be Dark Star 29 Pony Boy, or whatever. You do want to be Dark Star 29 Pony Boy. But it's a messy, nasty kettle of worms for them to have to deal with. Expect court battles dragging on for decades. You know what's better than kettles of worms? Chips? Chips, chips, chips. PC World is reporting that Intel and Micron have created a new class of nonvolatile memory somewhere between Flash and DRAM. The new technology is called 3D Xpoint and it's 1,000 times faster than NAND Flash. It's also a little slower than DRAM. However, this 3D Xpoint has the endurance of get this 1,000 times greater than Flash. That's always been the hugest hindrance with Flash is the endurance and it could fit anywhere from a rapid range of, you know, to access a large amount of data is required. So basically think high-speed caching. And, you know, 3D Xpoint will ship a sample, right? In similar quantities later this year. It's expected to arrive maybe in products next year. So that's just very exciting because we need this. We need more fast. More fast. Yeah, apt to get installed more fast. And more cheap drives. Multiple indie game developers told Gamma Suture that Uia has told them they won't be receiving thousands of dollars owed to them from Uia's Free the Games Fund. The Magic Fund was meant to secure indie exclusives for the Uia console for six months by matching their Kickstarter amount. The contract for the funds included a clause stating that bankruptcy or insolvency would nullify the agreement and Uia claims that their acquisition by Razor falls under this clause. So basically indie game developers are having the indie music experience of having their distribution fail and not getting their money. Yeah, and you know, it doesn't matter what the, what the reason, actually no, it doesn't matter what the reason. The reason you didn't get paid is because the person that told you that it was going to pay them just got paid a whole lot more, AKA getting bought by Razor. Well, the reason you didn't get paid is because the business failed. Well, okay, sure. But then they still got bought by Razor. For like eight dollars. Okay, well, you know, split the eight dollars up. They did. Okay. But you see there's bankruptcy law that determines who gets what. And I'm pretty sure the indie game developers are far, far down on this. Well, they could have done, they could have gotten more than eight dollars. Just saying. Okay, 25 dollars. Well, uh-huh. Engage the reports that you can now mute people who periscope too much. A great relief in our household. To mute someone, open the profile and tap the button next to the following icon. Their broadcasts will still appear in your feed when you open the app, but they will no longer interrupt you to tell you how awesome Game of Thrones is while you're watching Game of Thrones. I think this is a wonderful feature that should have been part of the launch. Yes. And now, news from you. Captain Kipper sent us the recode report that Reddit's head of community has left the company. Jessica Moreno has been with the company since 2011. She is the fourth, one, two, three, four, fourth senior female employee to exit the company in less than a month. Cowich, also Starzeta sent in this from an IT world describing how Brinks CompuSafe Galileo can be opened with a USB stick and 100 lines of code. How? Yeah, Brinks is claiming that the CompuSafe helps store, eliminate deposit discrepancies and to reduce theft and free stuff from having to recount and doing audits of cash and stuff. However, a couple of security researchers from the security company, Bishop Fox, well, they got themselves a used one off eBay and they managed to hack it because there was a USB port on the side that allowed them to get this bypass the authentication of the application that was running on top of the so beautiful embedded Windows XP back end. Derp. That's right. On a safe. So fantastic. So anyway, after that, all bets were off. They're going to describe the hack at the DEF CON hacking conference which Patrick and I will be at in Las Vegas next week. It's going to be epic. Brinks has not fixed the problem due to a somewhat complicated supply chain issue. That's right. Brinks designed the safe but the software was actually made by another company called the Fire King Security Group. Well, yeah. So this is actually a big deal. There's like 10,000 of these scattered around the United States. What they allow you to do is they control cash so slowly the cash goes into the machine, the machine logs the data on the cash that's been put into the machine so that everybody can all the cash moving through a business can be tracked, right? That's the hope. Yeah. Well, the problem is now they can basically erase it and remove cash at will fundamentally. Never. I don't know what you're talking about. There was no deposit. Or there wasn't a deposit. And let's, you know. The deposit was for 50 bucks. It was going to the indie game developers. I don't know what you're talking about. That's 2,550 other bucks. This is, I mean, this is crazy and this is also one of the problems that we talk about a lot every year around Defconn or Black Hat which security through obscurity is almost always a bad idea. It's the fun, though, of the Internet of Things because all of these companies and this, of course, has been around for quite a while, obviously, running embedded Windows XP. But the whole idea of, oh my gosh, we must capitalize on this make physical doohickey with security and if you know anything about how products are rushed to market, it's not like you're going to be doing over-the-air updates. If we can't even get a game that works correctly out of the box on day one, then how can we expect to have physical objects that, and the problem really just lies in the lifecycle of them and there's no way to update them. So in this case, basically you own a very expensive brick if you have one of these. Well, you just have to not let anybody with a USB thumb drive near it. Okay, we'll get out the hot glue and then we'll show up with a GSM phone and some malware and all bets are off at one bit per second. Oh, I'm not even touching that one. We, sorry guys, did I forget to tell you I have to be somewhere in like a half hour? Finally, Kevin Kipper sent us the happy, happy news that two filmmakers who made a documentary about the song Happy Birthday and had to pay $1,500 for the privilege of using the song may have found the smoking birthday candle that will allow them to get their money back. Filmmaker Jessica Nelson sued, yeah, filmmaker Jessica Nelson sued Warner Chappelle and represents a class of plaintons who have paid similar licensing fees over the years, which wow, that might be a lot of people. During discovery, Warner Chappelle sent Nelson's lawyers a batch of quote, recently discovered documents that they didn't send the past time, which included a 1927 version of Happy Birthday, which would make the song's copyright expired, unlike the version that Warner Chappelle claims is the base. So Happy Birthday to a lot of people who could now possibly be receiving class action checks in the mail. Ouch. I mean, we can start singing Happy Birthday. Yeah, I know, as I was about to say, I just want to start singing it on this podcast. Not until, Wait until next year. That's what we'll do. Time and a place. All right. There's also a time and a place that you're streaming music on if you're a T-Mobile subscriber, as it turns out. Well, we mentioned the story, or we should probably point out, headlines are over, time for the discussion story. It's been interesting, while it's like T-Mobile has had their free music system. And you and I were talking about this. This is a really interesting idea, is that you stream all you want if it's one of these accepted services. And part of you wants to know if this is something that these streaming companies are paying T-Mobile for, or T-Mobile is just calming people on this to make it an even more compelling deal. Well, you know, there's no transparency in it, so how do we know? At this point, we don't. But what's also, this got me thinking about facebook.org, or excuse me, internet.org, run by Facebook. Well, championed by Facebook. Possibly bankrolled by Facebook, but that was open to a huge amount of ranker. I like to use the word ranker once in a while. Over the fact that it was a relatively closed environment, and there was a lack of competition in there. But we started talking about the idea that since most of the world is going to access the internet through smartphones, and that your smartphone connection to the internet is essentially your connection to the rest of the world, the fact that this brings us back to the T-Mobile thing, free services will be preferable for people with small incomes in most cases, which brings us to how do we make sure there's an open and free internet, which I think it's good that Facebook is opening up internet.org and mobile operators. You're groaning. I have just a fundamental problem with the whole situation from the get-go and that, and I understand, right? Probably we don't want the internet a la before 95, before it was privatized and officially handed over to the corporations to govern, but the difference between internet.org and what we have with the greater internet of today is no, sure, it's not run by the Department of Defense Advanced Research Program, which, no, we don't want that. We don't want the internet brought to you by the man, but we also don't want it. The internet brought to you by a conglomeration of two companies, right? Yeah. Well, okay. So if you look at the article up on The Verge, basically this is the head of the schedule they've announced, a quote, dedicated portal through which operators can sign up, and they're also trying to compel mobile operators coming into the system, quote internet.org brings new users on the mobile networks on average over 50% faster after launching free basic services and more than half, dot, dot, dot, are paying for data and accessing the internet within the first 30 days. So what they mean was that of the 9 million people that used the service over the last year that has now started in what was at Zambia and has now grown to over 17 countries. In three continents. In three continents. So those 9 million people, they're saying that nearly half of those people have then like gotten the taste of the internet and been like, I think I might want to see some more of this internet stuff that's not behind the free kiddie pool internet. Well, it's also the question is whether or not it's going to be as open to developers as Facebook is promising. No, well, Facebook's getting a lot of backlash as they should because we don't want the, you know, the kiddie pool internet that becomes the de facto standard that is free and available to everybody in the world because network operators see it as a way to garner more customers only run by Facebook and only serving you Facebooky goodness or developers that Facebook allows on there. So, okay, so how do you feel how do you feel about the idea that Google's loon will be the next big competitor to internet.org? I don't like it for the same exact reasons that I don't like the Facebook one and I still have a little bit more love in my heart for Google than Facebook but that not withstanding. Is that because all of your life runs on Google? Yeah, okay, okay. There's that. But then there's also, you know, they fight for the user a lot more than Facebook historically, that not withstanding. I don't like either of these options because I feel like I don't want an internet run by the corporations any more than I want the internet run by government. I want it run by the community. And if you look at some of the things coming out of South Africa, they have the largest community mesh networks in the world. Johannesburg is connected rooftop to rooftop by people who just want to communicate and they just did. They just put up their own unlicensed networks using the same you know, Wi-Fi equipment that you have at home and then bypassing, you know, what was there a really regulated and restricted internet environment? So they just said, well, you know, forget it, we can roll our own micro blogging service internally to Johannesburg. We can roll our own equivalent to Craigslist and all of those things. So I think that in a much bigger picture could, I mean, it's, we've got definitely issues of scale, right? When we talk about the whole world, but I would much rather see a, if there is going to be a kiddie pool internet as it were free and available to all of humanity, I'd rather it be run by all of humanity. And thus not restricting anybody to any app but availability all the packets to all the people all the time. Have you seen the developer requirements on internet.org? Yeah, no JavaScript, no HTTPS, so good luck trying to do anything with crypto. You just, wow, that's, that's not in the kiddie pool internet. Well, yeah, it's, it's, you know, I think it needs the country that's complaining the loudest where it's like if you restrict the number of applications that are free or fundamentally controlling the gateway to the internet. Well, and that's kind of like that's why we bring this up in addition to the T-Mobile story because that's essentially what's happening here with T-Mobile saying like, oh, well, you know, we've got these little data plans and we've been allowed to, you know, by the FCC have like, you know, here's your two gigabytes LTE and here's your five gigabyte LTE and here's your unlimited as long as you stay under the 97 percent tile in which case is this quarter it's 21 gigabytes. You go over that and then we'll throttle you anyway, whatever, notwithstanding the whole idea of like, well, here are your gigs. Oh, but these, oh, those gigs, those streaming music gigs from our partners, those are free gigs. All gigs are equal, but some gigs are more equal than others. It makes me, it makes me furious because I feel like what's happening is T-Mobile is exploiting a flaw in humanity because ultimately we all actually want, you know, what is right and what is just and we can all say, net neutrality, yes, that's a good thing and no preferential treatment and all of those things, you know, but there exists a bug where by if corporations are offered the ability to do some zero rating, they'll jump on it and additionally, if consumers are offered a good deal, they'll feel all special and I want to file a bug report to humanity on this issue. In T-Mobile's defense, I will say, I mean, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Apple Music, several icons I don't recognize, Spotify, it's a pretty good selection. It's a pretty open. No, you're falling right into the trap, Patrick, you're like, look, it's a good deal. I'm getting free stuff. No, no, what I'm saying is that it's not like they're offering like Apple paid them the most money so you get Apple Music. Yeah, but what about the real Indies? See, they're the ones that only got eight dollars and now they're not on the free band wagon. Well, maybe they are if they're on Spotify or Apple Music. You see, what I'm saying is they don't want to join the man. They want to stay Indie, Indie, Indie underground. You can only find them on Usenet. Before our favorite producer in LA starts weeping openly because she's about to miss our appointment, I think we should call the discussion story Disgust. I am indeed disgusted. Disgusted indeed. I thought you guys might like to hear a pick of the day, which is a book. How about them apples? Rich from Lovely Cleveland suggested the book which is called The Unimaginable Mathematics of Borgias Library of Babel by William Block. As the title suggests, says Rich, it looks at the mathematical implications of the universe proposed in the short story The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borgias which posits a universe made up of a library with books containing every combination of 1.3 million characters. Borgias assumes 25 characters including space and punctuation. The key to the piece is quote unimaginable for which it's relatively easy to calculate the implications of such a universe. Block goes to great lengths to show how impossible it is to wrap our minds around the sheer scale. The author then goes through the necessary dimensions for such a library and discovers that it would exceed the estimated volume of the observable universe several times even if each book were the size of a grain of sand. And the library contains roughly 251 billion 312 million books. Block takes it in weirder directions from there and it's a real treat for math and literature geeks thought your audience might enjoy and you can of course get that anywhere great books are sold. Send your feedback send your pics to feedback at Daily Tech News Show and you can find Tom's pics at Daily Tech News Show slash pics. And before we get out of here you guys I want to play you if I can find it. Where did it go? I had this great message. Oh, here it is. Okay, I want to play you guys a message from an air traffic controller that actually has to do with something that Darren was talking about last Friday. Hey Tom and Jess it's your boss Bill from Parts Unknown here. I'm an air traffic controller in the U.S. listening to private discussion of where it's legal to fly a drone. Don't take this as anything but my battery envelope quickly not legal advice. Darren mentioned class B airspace. This is not correct. You want class G or uncontrolled airspace. Go to skyvector.com and find your house using latlongs if necessary. It's like Google Maps but for pilots. You need to at minimum not fly inside dotted blue rings styled magenta rings and solid blue rings. These are class D, class C and class B airspace respectively. Again, I don't speak for the FAA or anybody but myself. All I'm saying here is that you definitely can't fly inside tower-controlled airspace. Love the show. What do you say Darren? Yeah, it's good stuff. I did mess up G and D. There's lots of different layer cakes to it all. I should actually point you to a really good resource if you're into any model aircraft and want to find out more about the do's and don'ts. The AMA or the Academy of Model Aeronautics these guys have been basically championing the sport that has existed before manned since before manned airplay has even existed. They haven't but model aircraft. Anyway, AMA or the Academy of Model Aeronautics is where I should have pointed our question last week because they have fantastic resources on where to fly. There's lots of legal flying fields where you can meet other members and geek out. So there you go. Just make sure you read the rules at the model aircraft field because in many cases they either require a permit from the local municipality or a very specific set of flying rules or only allow certain types of aircraft. Right. These are the same people that in fact put on the drone nationals that everybody got so excited about. I can't wait to go next year. What was the name of the website that allowed you to find airspace? Well, I was just pointing to the AMA, the Academy of Model Aeronautics. I will put the one that the guy sent in the show notes because I don't remember it either. But I'll put it in the show notes. And I've linked it in IRC for you. Awesome. Well, guys, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Darren Kitch and Patrick Norton for filling in doing a hack five takeover of Daily Tech News Show. Tell us what's going on. What's going on at the hack five collective this week? Oh, man. Turtles. Turtles. Basically, it's all the turtles all the time. We just released a fancy new product called the USB or sorry, the LAN turtle. And basically it's USB ethernet adapter and more. It's a smart system running in embedded Linux distro. So you can get your geek on if you're a techie or a systems administrator or a penetration tester that wants remote access to networks all over. It's all covert. You just drop it on a land and constantly have VPN or Metasploit access or SSH access or whatever have you. So fun little man in the middle tool, too. And on Tekzilla we'll be talking about Windows 10 tomorrow. Lots and lots of Windows 10 to celebrate the Windows 10 launch and the fact that I've been running this technical preview for months. As you can find that over at the tech thing YouTube channel. Actually, Tekzilla. He said that. He said that. I do that once in a while. T-E-K-T-H-I-N-G dot com or YouTube dot com slash tech T-E-K-T-H-I-N-G. Nothing but a tech thing. Tekzilla is dead. Tech thing lives on. Well, thank you guys. Thank you so much. And a special thanks to our 5031 patrons for supporting this show. I really appreciate it. And tomorrow, Scott Johnson and Jonathan Strickland will be here. And then after that, everybody's going to Nerdtacular. All right. Take care, guys. I would play the Diamond Club in the outro, but I got a little spinning beach ball and you know what happens when that happens. So, talk to me. You go to the beach. You go to the beach. All right. Thank you guys. We are now officially in the post-show. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Wait. Nobody do anything. Darren and Patrick. I want you both slowly one at a time to press Control-Z. I already did. When it popped up on the thing. A half dozen times. Okay. So then I'm now, so Darren, I'd love it if you could try it because I'm missing some stuff. One, two, three. Oh, you're the one who got rid of the one plus two. That was me putting into the discussion story notes. Five, six, stuff. Nope, that's it. That was me putting in the discussion story notes. That's hilarious. I was like, where did the one plus go? It disappeared for the headlines. All right. You know, I actually had it in, you know, what I downloaded ended up having the other story twice. The Moto X style story. Anyway. All right. Well, we survived. It was a good show. Thank you guys. Wait, let me stop all. Stop some things. Oh yeah. I haven't even gotten that far yet. Hold on. I'd like to apologize. Yeah, yeah. I'm at the time of this show. Oh, yes. It's okay. It's fun to do these fire drills. Hold on. Wait, I'm responding to things. That's why I'm ready. That's why we have editing. Okay. But I just spelled it's editing. Oh, no. You're not going to find any of that airspace in this area. We are so close to some airports. I know I was laughing. You're going to have to really get out in the boonies. All right. Hold on. Show bot. Are there? No. Oh, wow. Okay. XP equals safe. Safe equals unsafe. All gigs are equal, but some are more equal than others. Oh, boy. Smoking birthday candle. Hack five Darren likes turtles. Modem makes it play. One plus X equals phones. World War Control C. Thank you. Thank you. All right. What do you think? I kind of like XP equals safe. Safe equals unsafe. Well, except that XP is not safe. So I know. XP safe unsafe. How about XP safe unsafe? Yes. XP safe unsafe. I like that. I like that a lot. And I forgot to tell you guys ahead of time. I'm so sorry. I have to teach at four o'clock and it takes me an hour to get to class, which leaves me exactly an hour to edit. And I forgot to tell you ahead of time, but I was like, oh my God. I'm in so much trouble. There's a whole quarter mile down the 405, so you should leave an hour early. I know. A couple days early. So entirely correct. You can be doing this from the back of an Uber on your way to the class after you left at 9 a.m. this morning. I mean, right? It's out of control. And I even have somebody on standby because of how bad yesterday went. We have someone on standby getting ready to sit in my classroom and hold the students while I get there. So I think I'm just going to go edit in silence now for the next half hour. Thanks for having us. Thank you guys. Sorry, there's so much to edit. Thank you so much. No problem. Cheers. This was a lot of fun. All right, take care. All right, guys. Bye. Bye. All right. And then I'm going to take us off the Alpha Geeks. Here we go.