 Big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None of them are there. Man, another day. God didn't made another way. Exactly. Man, hey, we got a very, very, very special guest in here, man. This guy really don't need no introduction. He's got all the ruckus. He done brought up, you know, with what he have accomplished. And we definitely, we love our city, man. We represent Dallas to the fullest, man. And you can't rep it without knowing this guy here, man. Jason Todd, man, how you doing, brother? Going pretty good, man. Man, going pretty good. This is the coach from SOC. Yes, sir. SOC for Cleo. Yes, sir. Man, how you doing? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Man, I know it's different than what it's been being. Yeah. Because a winning season over a season that you had to go back sad, it's totally different, ain't it? Yeah, it is. Everybody else so happy. Man, and I know how we do it here. We do it a little bit different than everybody else. Yeah, we like to go into your background. So we want to know where you grew up. We want to know single parent household, all of that. So take us back. Yeah, I was born in a single parent home with my mother. We were raised in South Dallas over in the 44 Oakland area. My grandmother stayed in Oak Cliff with grandmother and grandfather, so I was kind of, you know, go back and forth between the Oak Cliff area and the South Dallas area. Went to Lincoln High School, played football for Coast Samples, ended up getting a scholarship going to Texas Southern University. From that standpoint, you know, I played football about four years, graduated from college. Where was your dad during all of this time? Oh, never met him in my life. Never? No, man. Did you know who he was? I know the name, but we never encountered each other or ever had a conversation. And did your mom know where he was? Yep. But you were never interested to find him? Mm-mm, can't miss nobody you've never seen. I've heard that, maybe just girls. Girls be like, you know, emotional, so they be like, I want to know who my dad is. Yeah. Or some boys might want to know, but I always tell people, because I see a lot of mothers, and I don't know if this is your mom's case or not, will keep the kids from the dad, and sometimes the dad will stay purposely away. But I always feel that for medical reasons, especially, you need to know your genealogy, you need to know what, because you know when you go to the doctor, they say, okay, is this in your family, is that in your family? You can only speak on one side. You don't know what's on the other side. Yeah, that's true. So for medical reasons, especially, you want to know. You know what I mean? Even if you don't have a relationship, you want to know some sort of information. Well, let me double down. You know me, I'm always, let me play the other side for a minute, like I was the opponent. I believe in Jesus Christ, just me personally, and I think that by His stripes, I'm healed. So there is no sickness that I can't overcome because of what I believe in. So I'm a little bit different. So I understand who my parents is, but that don't matter if you get caught up in a place where your mind state ain't right, your health ain't going to be right either. Yeah, that's true. You see what I'm saying? In order for me to really understand, I have to tap into the spiritual. But in a natural man like you talking about, yeah, it'd be cool to know about your dad, but in a spiritual man, I've overcome the world. It's true. But how did you feel as a child growing up, not having him in your life? You know, I had my grandfather and my uncle. Oh, so you did have male figures? Yeah, I had male figures. So it wasn't like I was just absent of any males in the family. You know, I still had people I had to respect, kept me in line and things like that. I didn't have my mother out, but it was no direct lineage to my father. And that's awesome to me. It's bad, but it's good. Because for the main fact that you can now help other kids in that situation to be able to overcome that because not every child can be like you and have that mindset at a young age. Some kids are emotional and act out in a negative way because of that. Yeah, and I always tell the kids I coach and the kids I come across that we can't use it as an excuse. It's not a good situation, but you got to make the best of a lot of bad situations and count in life. Like I tell them all the time, if you met your father, you already know yours if you're one minute or one day. You've known him a lot longer than I know mine personally. Besides just a name. It helps me also with guys that lose their parents. I can relate back to them and be like, at least you got a lot of memories that you can hold on for the rest of life. And that's good because I really feel that God put us through situations in life to place us in certain situations to have us be prepared to help others. You know what I mean? You might not see it at that time when we're going through something, but later on in life we might figure it out. Things are pretty much set in course. You look at everybody's story so much different when you look at life. It's like a box of chocolate. You never know what you're going to get. When you look at some of the things you've been through and the way you've been able to deal with the children that you've encountered even before the championship and all that, that's God working you out to be in these kids' life and be that father figure. You've been a father figure to so many now. You know what I mean? That basically... I don't know if that tenacity in you because of you not having that place of a father, that would help like a lot of times. Some people it affected in one way and some people affected in another. I thank God that you've been placed in them kids' life. Did you have siblings? No, only child also. On your mom's side that you know about? Yeah, on my mom's side that I know about. So if it's anybody else, I know it is what it is. You could meet somebody with the same last name and not know if they're your brother or sister. Yeah, well, they wouldn't actually have. Oh, you had your mom's last name? Yeah, I'm gonna talk. Yeah, we see that. To do what you have accomplished, man, that school's a 5A school too, right? Yes, we're a 5A division. But you said after university, sorry, you're going back to telling me that you went up to now. I'll cut you in at university. So after university, what did you do? At university, I took something. I graduated and I came back. Really didn't know what I wanted to do, but I knew I wanted to be a coach. So that means I had to get certified to be a teacher. So I went and talked to Coach Sam. I was in Earl Jones, who was the principal at Lincoln High School school I graduated from. They told me the steps I needed to do alone were talking to my grandfather so we set everything up. I got an AC program and from that point in 2001, I became a teacher and a coach. Why did you want to be a coach? Because it wasn't work to me. You know, it was just coaching is just natural. It's just something I always envisioned from when I was younger and just to see the amount of people that you can do a lot of things in life but everybody got some input and some thought about what a coach should do. So that meant a lot to me too. So it was just a personal challenge that I thought it wasn't going to work. It was something I really enjoyed doing and they said if you can find a job that you really enjoy doing, which is working with kids and coaching football and teaching, you never work a day in your life. Did you ever meet a coach that when you were younger that affected your life? They said you know what, that is a great example of a coach that I would love to be. Well, middle school, he was my first football coach and he probably had a big impression on me as far as just the way he stayed that well for decades. You know, and he stayed committed to that program and you could follow the success of the kids that he touched. You know, through decades, from the 70s all the way up to probably about 2000. You know, he had a major influence on a lot of kids around the area. You know, and then going to work with Coach Samples at Lincoln, Coach Rick and Lewis, you know, was another guy that taught me how to work with hard heads, but you can get them in line and make them, you know, march to your beat. How do you do that? Because I had to go off to any teacher because to work with difficult kids, and yes, you don't know what they're going through at home because usually that's where Sam's from, why they're so difficult sometimes. But how do you get through to these kids? I think the first thing they got to see is that you really care and that you're not going back down and you're not afraid of, you know, that's the first thing I would say. You know, he always came to working just from looking at him, you know, as a kid, he always had just his main look on his face from the moment you saw him. You like, man, because Lewis don't play. So, you know, from that standpoint as you grew to know him, you find out he really was a cool dude, but he always put that hard, you know, that hard demeanor out there to, you know, the show I get down with anybody around here and I'm going to grow up and yell some kids and that was real big. They had to peel them layers back. Yes, yes, yes, sir. Yeah, man, that's dope, man. Like I said, I just commend you for what you've done in the Dallas area, high school. How long have you been coaching over there for soccer? Soccer, I've been there for eight years, seven as the head coach, 20 total years coaching, so going two decades. My first year to start coaching was actually when the World Trade Center, when the planes bombed. It was like my fifth day of teaching. Yeah, that's nice, man. So, you guys, man, was it hard, I mean, far as being a, you was in a, of course you're a brother and you were teaching and I don't want to go too far in detail, but being a brother teaching, you know, coaching going into different areas, dealing with it. I know you've seen some things, I'll keep it light. You know, you see a lot of things and you kind of understand why a lot of these kids may act out and do some of the things they do. A lot of things that they're experiencing, they're upbringing that really a kid shouldn't have to go through and you kind of, if you're from that area, you cannot understand it and deal with it better, but if you're not from the area, you know, you're looking down on the kid and don't understand the situation and that's what I'm able to do. I'm able to relate because I grew up, you know, in high school, I was sitting in class with the first person that was charged as a minor for capital murder, you know, according to Hoopa, I still remember that, you know, to this day and he's a real cool cat, you know, but he's been in jail since that moment, you know, things like that. So, going back, how were you when that happened? I had to be a freshman or sophomore, we were in the same grade, so I think we were 16 years old, so we probably were sophomores that year. And y'all heard about it, this was, was it something that he done off campus? Yeah, it was off campus dealing with the Morehouse kid down by Bunton, you know, in the other area, you know, and just lost a lot of guys that came in with me as freshmen that were gone, you know, killed and things like that before we graduated high school, so. What do you think about the, like the bullying and just the kids fighting and just like the shooting that happened over at that school and I believe in McLeod, I mean, Mansfield. Mansfield? Yeah, you know, times are different now and you gotta realize that a lot of people are imitating what they see on TV now, and so it's not where the streets dictate what's on TV, the TV dictates how the streets act now, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. It used to be like the rappers they were trying to rap to get out of the street life, but now it's like it's all intertwined together, where it's mixed in, but the real street guys wish they could get out of the game, you know, so it's kind of like that, so I call it the PT lifestyle, you know, you live in a lifestyle of what you see on TV every day, but the results in real life totally different, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because I see, I know some grown men now who used to play football when they were in high school and they would say it was just a thing that high school football players would bully other kids, especially the nerds and stuff like that, it was just a thing that just happened back then, you know, kids never used to draw guns and do all of this, fight it out, throw kids in trash cans, whatever, and I'm like, but bullying is bullying, you know, just because you're a football, a football player, I don't mean that you have the right to do that, but it's just a thing that, you know, they did, so do you see that still happening today? No, you kind of don't see as much horseplay as you've used to, but also, you know, I wouldn't say it's kind of stuck with athletes, you know, it's kind of like a, you know, you got different clicks within a school, you know, you got the guys that allegedly want to be street guys, you know, you got the guys that play sports, you got the guys that kind of dance in between the two, you know, and then you had the guys that, you know, more booky, you know, book type of guys and things like that, so it's so intertwined now and now everybody really thinks they're street, you know, more so than it used to be in the past, you know, I knew what my lane was and my partners that I grew up with that were in there like, they were like, nah, y'all gone on and, you know, move on because, you know, this ain't y'all area right here, y'all play football, y'all gone through that, when it's time to get to some, yeah, when it's time to get to some other stuff, nah, y'all gone on, you know, they ain't let us mess around like that, not the ones that would like that, you know, they would like that, nah, they wouldn't let nobody boss us or anything like that, they'd stand up and defend us for, we even had the thought to defend ourselves, but that just had was, they protected their own and knew the ones that were going to be some, you know, they wanted them to be successful you know, more so than they said. See, I hear stories about stuff like that, I wish a lot more of that would be going on. Yeah, yeah, so do you, when you look back and think back to all those different kids that you dealt with, what's the case that sticks out to you the most where it touched you in a way where you say, man, that was a special situation, it don't have to be that it was on the football field, just all around it was a special situation for you. It's been a lot, a couple of that I say to stand out, you know, my coach career was when we lost in the state championship in Lincoln, you know, we had a sophomore kid that was going to be a hell of a football player and he ended up, he was a great kid, you know, like did everything in life correctly, you know, never was a discipline problem and he just happened to be at a party in Grand Prairie about a week or two after we lost in the state game and he was just innocent bystander, got shot and to see, you know, like to see him live his life, wanting to be like the guys that were seniors on that team, you know, everything he did, he wanted to be like Courtney He wanted to be like, you know, the old Byronetown and all those guys and then for it to be taken away, you know, it really hurt you and then, you know, you reminisce on those things. Also, you know, we had kids that didn't allow their circumstances to dictate their life. We had a kid named Kenan Cooper that went and was an all-American, straight-A kid but he had a lot of problems in his home life but he never allowed, he was watching his sister pretty much by itself growing up but he never asked for help, never asked for a ride home, you know, like you never would know without really being able to dig in later on and him kind of telling you some of these things and you know, it's just kids like that you know, you see them dealt different hands and a lot of them were still great kids and you just like, dang. Whatever happened was easy. Yeah, he's coaching, he went to Minnesota, was a three-year starter, graduated from college, coached a little bit in college, still living in Minnesota, got a couple of kids now, you know, he came back and visited me over Christmas break so, you know, he's doing good so, you know, it's a lot of successful stories that, you know, that I remember just through the years and they were just a couple but you know, these kids, they go through a lot though and a lot of times people judge them but don't understand them. Especially in certain areas too. Yeah. Do you have any that made NFL and all that good stuff? Yeah, actually, Michael Morgan was a player I coached at Skyline, he went to USC, he won a Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks, Corinellson was a kid that I coached, he won a Super Bowl with the Denver Broncos, coached Steve Williams, he was drafted by the Chargers. Do they call you? We talk from time to time, you know, I always tell the kids, you know, once I've done my job with you all I want you to do is come back and maybe help another kid one day. You know, I don't want to be in no pictures, you know, I don't want to be, you know, I just want to do my part to push you and then once I push you to that point, just make sure you come back and help a kid that was in a situation just like you one day. Yeah, we got Taylor Gabriel coming today. Yeah, I coached against him when he was at Mesquite home. Yeah, he'll be here today and, you know, we definitely we, I never seen that coming when he was a kid. I never would have told you. I thought, yeah, he was too little. I ain't gonna lie, but I played when you could be too little back in the day, but I didn't know how fast he was. But he's a good story, too, because when I think he went to Midwester State, you know, when you saw him in high school, went to Midwester State, you never knew, okay, that kid would be an NFL one day, but it just shows you that it's not about where you go. You know, it's all about capitalizing opportunity that you have and you never know what opportunity you can lead you to. Correct. Meeting the right people, having the right attitude. How much does that weigh on you? That means a lot about not burning bridges. You know, the biggest thing is sometimes it's not about for somebody to cross the bridge to you is that you may have to humble yourself across that bridge back to them. And that's kind of what I tell the kids all the time is that, you know, don't burn the bridge because that bridge, you know, you can keep yourself stranded. Man. I gotta, and, you know, I watch a lot of movies. And I see situations in football movies. Yes. So have you ever seen a situation where a parent pressuring the kids or even some were abusing their child because they're not doing well in football and like you're going to get to the NFL because you're going to get us out of this situation type of thing. I have seen it to the degree like, you know, about getting to the NFL but, you know, a lot of parents do live through their kids, you know, and a lot of times have unrealistic expectations of the kids. So, you know, sometimes it does put a lot of pressure on the kid but I haven't seen it to that extent where, you know, it's about you getting us out of this situation and everything riding on your back. I haven't seen it to that degree but I have seen parents live through kids. Okay. I just, how did it feel after all of these years for you to accomplish what you accomplish and win in the state championship like that? The biggest thing was that man, to kind of put it in words is like for something that you strive for every day but you never know if you're going to really get there and then kind of see the promise lane. Words can't really describe it because it's kind of like a feeling that I don't even know the word to describe you know, like it's no word to really describe that feeling because at the end of the day it's like I ain't, we really do this. So it's kind of like you're still in the dream world, you know, to a certain degree where, you know, you know, it is man, it was like something you've been preaching to somebody on blind faith all these years and they just been walking with your blindfold and not knowing where you're taking them but then to finally get there so you know, I related to like believing in the Bible, you believe in the Bible that they see really part. That's it. That's it. You know, that you put your blindfolds on that boat. So that's it. You know, coming from our neighborhood because we saw chastisers say what we can't do and we ain't good enough and we ain't smart enough and can't control the kids. It's our talent. So you so beat down so much that when you get to this point, you know, you really just want to look at everybody, you know, and just go off, you know, really. Because the last time a team from Dallas one was in the 1950s. I mean, 58 is what they say in the record books but it's 1988. I didn't say that because of what happened. Why? Because Carter actually won state in 88 but later a couple of years later they were stripped of the title. But you know, I was at the state and I saw it. I saw them score the touchdowns. I saw the score with 31 and 14, I believe. So I witnessed it. So you know, they can't take the victory away from me. Yeah. Yeah. And I get that because you've seen it and you understand what those kids went through. And everybody wasn't to be blamed. Yeah. Which were you coaching at the school that you're coaching at now? This is my 8th year. 8th year. So with saying that and this ended up being the year that that happened what was the formula compared to all the other years that made this be the year? I think the biggest thing was that, you know, a lot of teams I've been a part of, we had some talented teams and I think sometimes it's not just about talent. Well, it's not about talent. Some things not coaching some stuff is just how to ball file sometimes, you know, and that gets you over the final hump. And with this group we were able to execute on offense at a high level this year and we've been playing state championship caliber defense for some years. But this year our quarterback play, our offense to play calling, it was like, you know, whenever the situation came up, like we right there. Right there. So it's like you playing, you play blackjack? Yes. All the time. So you the dealin' every time somebody got 20, you hit it with a 21. Every time they think they won, bam, you right there. So, you know, that's really how it was this year. It was just you could feel it coming but at the same time you didn't want to be like, we arrived. Yeah, you don't want to put that into it. Until you arrived? Yeah, yeah, until you arrived, let's go back to what I was saying, like winning ain't never won. No. You know, until it was this time on that clock, you know, it ain't over you still just winning. But we want to win when you won, it's over. See, I actually have a question for you, but not only for you because I think about the Cowboys. How every year they come all the way up to the playoffs and they, you know, and everybody is cheering for them. Not every year. Not every year and have the high hopes and I'm dying for that year. Yes. But you just don't know when that year is going to be when they take that championship back. Yeah. And what is it going to take for that to happen? It normally takes something that is bigger than winning in order to drive you. I like that. So it can't just be about winning a Super Bowl or winning a state championship. It's got to be something that motivates you way deeper than that. And that's kind of what motivated us. You know, we're all a minority staff. You know, so people don't think we can be good as coaches. You know, when we got kids that come from different environments, people think those kids can't be coached. Yeah, can't be coached, can't be productive. You come from a community that's, you know, not economically powerful, you know, as far as money goes and things like that. But what we did, we took all those negatives and then we just shouted and ate it up and then it became a positive. So we didn't use any situation as a negative for us. Like we didn't say, oh, we had to ride a bus for two years and nobody cared about that. Or, you know, these kids went through this situation for this amount of time in their life and nobody cares. We don't have the same things that Alito has or some of these other stuff. We didn't use no excuses and it became something bigger than us as we began to play and have success this year where it was about Dallas. It was about the community. You know, it was about being, like I told those kids, y'all legends. You know, if you want to be a legend, do what legends do. Something nobody else has ever done. And so the thing I pride them the most about is that when Carter they were going through situations dealing with the legal system, you know, the whole way through and that locked them in. We didn't have those situations, you know, to help us get locked in. So it was strictly motivation from within with the team, the coaches, and the players all being in the boat. And we kind of described it as like the boys in the hood theater. You know, we don't want Trey to get in the car to let him out. We want everybody to be in the car that's going to stay in the car. Now if we're doing something Trey can't do, then we ain't going to have Trey to get in. But once we lock in this car, you know, getting out, if we crash, we crash together. If we ride, we ride together. That's it. And that's kind of mindset, you know, these kids had these boys had nobody could break that bond. I want to know that day when y'all won, because in my imagination if I was in your shoe, it wouldn't be all about me, of course, because you seem very humble, so it wasn't about you. It was about them kids. Yes. What was the reaction like and the environment like with the kids at that time when they won? And all the emotions. I think, you know, you saw some of them tears in their eyes, you know, some of them just were just elated and happy. The hard part about it is you're not able to celebrate with your team like you normally do because it's people pulling you you got to go here, you got to turn around, you got to put medals on, you know, so it's so scripted in that game that you don't naturally get the natural the natural aura of how it normally is after the game. But, you know, you can see by watching the video on TV and stuff like a lot of those kids they were touched because even when they won in their minds, they're still thinking like it's got to be something else we got to do. You know, there's no way that this is it and it's over because you've been striving for something so long and a lot of times like I tell them kids and the parents and everybody them kids, they play for a lot of times for the grownups. That's right. Because the kids don't really, you know, it ain't that important to them since Dallas ain't one since this but if they see you care then they care and they care more about you being successful than their own sales and that's why I say we're able to touch souls over their side of the cliff as far as reaching kids and making them buy in. That's Jason Todd, y'all. Coach Jason Todd. Head Coach Jason Todd is going down Jason Todd next year how many we got coming back? We got a lot coming back. We got a couple key pieces to replace but the boat is loaded. So we expect another We don't know yet. We got to wait until we get there and you got game for game, week for week you don't know but you got to bring it every week. Yeah, we got to bring it and that's what a lot of people get and people will be looking to try to knock them down. Yeah, but football is one from January until July. That's right. That's where you put in the work to win in August, September, November, December it doesn't start then, it starts now. We are already back in the lab we are the kids that are already working we ain't chasing nobody around finding them. They locked in so as long as they put in the work I can take any result we get at the end of the day. I know that's right. That's good stuff right there and just to build a relationship with those kids man. Yes. I have to go back to that you know because those kids, a lot of those kids like you said come from different type of homes than most of the people that they're having to face as encounter and especially in the smaller towns and different communities where it's more lucrative or monetarily game. Yes. So you know I get it man I understand. Yeah. And I was told to ask you do you have any affiliation with East Texas or Marshall? Actually my wife and my kids their grandparents are from the Longview area by way of Marshall. Okay. Okay. Because their grandmother and grandfather actually went to Pimerton High School which no longer exists it was a black school in Marshall so yeah you know and one of my favorite barbecue places in Marshall too. Which one? Bodacious. Bodacious. Yeah. That's my favorite one by far the Marshall location. Only the Marshall location. Yeah that's the one spot. So you have one in where do we always stop at? They got them all up and down 20 when you get up through all the way back up in Tyler I don't know if the one still there was one in Arlington too. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Tyler we stop at the one in Tyler a lot too and that one is long view as well. Long view. Yeah, no, no. The Marshall spot. Marshall. Marshall. So I had one more question. Go ahead. So your kids your son does he play football? He hasn't played yet right now he's been playing basketball you know he want to be Steph Curry. Oh, okay, okay. That's who he want to be. Yeah, mm-hmm. Is he any good? Yeah, yeah, he got a lot of potential you know he got to learn to put in that work though. Oh, okay. Yeah, but he's got a lot of potential he's hit a growth spurt so you know he got a chance. You know I want to talk to you about you've said Coach Sample's name a few times and we know that he's been right there at it in fourth and inches as I call it. Yeah. He been right there at it and hadn't really done it yet but at the end of the day he's done a great job coaching those kids over in Duncanville and just want to get your insight on it a little bit just kind of because I know he mean a lot to you because he you played under him as well. Yes, it sure did. Let's talk about a little bit about Coach Sample. The Coach Sample is probably one of the best mind manipulators there is you know like his way and a lot of times as a coach you got to understand you can't beat Coach Sample's because it's just some things that he does that I was underneath from 14 years as a coach in four years as a player and I still can't wrap my mind around like how he's able to do something sometimes but you know he definitely has a blueprint and a plan that's effective everywhere he's being you can go back to Lincoln we went to a state championship with some kids from South Dallas Skyline we went he went to the semifinals twice you know right there right there on the edge lost to Collin Murray one year we lost to Southlake Carl another year he went to Dunkinville took a program that was a losing program and out of the last four years they've been a state championship three out of four times in the time they didn't go they lost in the semifinals so you know he's a guy that has the blueprint and what I tell a lot of a lot of times is that uh he's like the godfather in that in his DNA is in a lot of people so even when I won it still traces back to him and sometimes it's not about you know it's just kind of like when you think of a Mo Lut King speech you know like he's like he said he may not see it but he gonna inspire the mind to be able to get it done and sometimes I think it's people we look down when people don't get it all the way done but we don't look at what they inspired because without him it's no me we're not talking right now today so some things are bigger than a victory because he may inspire 10 more minds to want to be do what he did and see that it is possible and then now I'm inspired somebody to say okay the next generation can get over the top and now what's to stop the next generation being like well hey we can do this perennially every year annually you know we got a chance so that's my biggest thing with him is that he's laid the ground work and show what success is and how to be successful at different programs not one I see that when people try to label him as just after American coach I asked him to go find coaches of any race that have went to multiple schools and had to suggest that he's had at the level that he's had and it's not any wow that's a special guy man coach samples man I'm gonna try to get him on the show gotta get him on the show what was his words to you when you won actually you know we didn't talk until the parade you know like a father-son relationship you know like you know at the son sometimes you ready to get out the house when I was underneath I'm like I don't do my own thing but then when you leave you start to understand understand why did he do what he did yeah well why didn't father act a certain way or why did he handle it this way so then when you get your own house then you start realizing okay he wasn't tripping I get where he was coming from so you know we talked at the parade you know he was just telling me congratulations and he was proud of me that's good man that's that's I love it man coach samples is one that like I say I gotta get him on the show I'm gonna be working on that that's my next everybody didn't promise he'd be over here they all call me man we got to get him over there and I'm gonna hold you accountable too now you know what I'm saying we gotta make it happen I'm gonna ask something off the wall because we wind it down now who was the first who was the fastest kid that you ever coach the fastest kid probably was uh probably Mark Fisher a kid at Lincoln yeah he was fast yeah yeah he could fly you remember his time uh it was probably like four three something you know in high school time that's bad that's that's a bad boy what year was that uh it's like in 2004 but the boy could fly yeah yeah yeah he was but that don't mean you can you can you won't hit that hole and do what you gotta do you gotta have you gotta have a teller I've seen some guys on their feet yeah that was able to maneuver in a way to where a fast guy couldn't do it like that yeah yeah yeah nah nah you gotta have some heart too you know there's some obstacles in the way to get to them so on a covering and things like that though so it all goes hand in hand what player do you have for this upcoming year that we should keep our eye on hey it's not it's not a one I could answer that for you yeah I mean we got a we got a group of players on all sides of the bar that that that'll be highly recruited you know chance of possibly you know have a good college career to play on Sundays in the NFL you know I probably got about five or six that I think could possibly have a chance how can I well first of all let me say being that we've been here for 15 years if there's ever a kid in need and needs some shoes or you ain't making it please make sure you reach out unique fashion has been a hub for that type of stuff ever since we got here so at the end of the day that's two of you and I you know what I mean or a kid that don't have it or you know and doing very well in school and just as a reward yeah yeah that's what we want we want to put something together like that with you and coach samples when I get to meet him second of all if a kid or if anybody is having issues and they need somebody to talk to how could they get a hold to you you can always email me to see Todd at dollar size d.org you can email me you can call the school at two or four nine three two seven thousand and they'll send you down to the football office and they don't have to be a part of that school to be able to reach out to you right no no no no no no no no if it's situation that's the thing about us like we help kids you know over there south of the cliff you know that's why I say it's way bigger than me you know we got there back to our principal you know coach mays we got people help out in a lot of ways not only kids go to sock you know we're about helping kids you know whether they go to whatever school they go to because like I tell people out of time you better help them and try to change them rather than one day they be the one robbing you that's it man yeah well I definitely want to catch out while we can I know right now maybe some whatever good time I'm gonna be like I say I'm gonna be we gonna talk offline here in a second but I want to tell you thank you we love you I want to ask you a question I want you to list your top three coaches of all time that are alive wow hmm that's a good question I'm gonna stick to football so I'm gonna have to say I'm gonna have to say Nick Saban Nick Saban okay what team was he he's the head coach for Alabama okay the way he's able to sustain things you know and mesh those high egos that he gets every year I'm gonna say Bella check okay after doing that on the NFL level and then when they come to high school I'm gonna say Co Sample yeah yeah because because of the way he's able to have success everywhere so you can take a Todd Dodge he's a sense of Westlake but what's the average money generated by that school millionaires Southlake is millionaires that's right but what did he do when he was a newman newman Smith nobody ever talk about that yeah yeah you know so when you're able to do it in different areas I'm talking about you know in these areas yeah yeah the world we live in yeah you got a a kid is making a decision to either play sports or go sell drugs to make money for his family and you got to talk that kid out of selling drugs to think of a long-term goal about going to college and being successful that's a lot different than a lot of things they did with out there so that's why I put him in I put him as the high school version of those guys I like that you said that but how could you like if you know about a child that in that situation how would you talk them out of going to sell drugs and staying in school and all of that you know you got to relate it to you know it may be short-term success but what's the long term game for you you know you got you got to tell them it's some times you know you connect them with people that's able to maybe help them in situations where they don't feel maybe get a job you know hey just try this job you know after you but just make sure you're there on time and that's gonna provide you with some money it may not be what you would make out on the streets but it just your health and your safety will be a lot you know it'll be a lot better so it's about just reaching those kids and just having some real talks to them and explain the situation that you've seen coming up about the guys that didn't go that route okay cool well thank you so much nah thank you so much for coming on the show man and like I said we appreciate you and we love you and if you ever need us we're here thanks a lot and and we definitely I love what you're doing keep on keep on keeping hope alive in those children's lives hey we'll do hey me yes sir it's been another great segment of boss talk 101