 Huh, it's a unique hustle nigga, big, huh. Name another podcast like this. No. Check it, check it, check it. Yo, check it out, yo, check it out, yo, check it out. Check it, check it, check it, man. Hey, it's your boy, ECO, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Make-A-Diner in Houston, Texas. Yes, you know, this is the city that Jamaicans just like populate like a hundred percent. Really? Jamaicans everywhere over this. Yeah. Look how he looking at me like. Is that true? You know what, go on to Jamaicans in the house, what you're talking about. Boy, these folk down here, they're all they damn mad. See, they came down here and put on a Jamaican colored shirt on. Really, the thing is, you really good to come down here and play in Houston. And guys, I'm gonna be honest with you, this thing is more Americanized than you could ever believe, you know, we, it's a few Jamaicans. What a drink, you seen any? I'm not one, as a matter of fact, I was just telling her that, you know, anything that I haven't really experienced, I kind of like blamed easy for it. So I haven't been really around like, no, no Jamaican food. I don't know really too much about it. The Jamaican culture, I don't know much about it. Outside of shotters. Outside of belly. You know what, when you come back to Dallas, I'm gonna make sure you know about it. Just wait, just watch, you see. You're gonna cook it yourself, right? Exactly. Of course, like he asked me earlier, he's like, can you cook? Like really? Promises. Promises, promises, I can't keep you. That's how I, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's how I got your boy right here. He's one of them, but I, what? By cooking. You know, I'm set up, but see, you coming over to the cabin. That's how I got you. You know, really, behind with you. It was that crown roll I bought over there. No, no, no. You see. You don't even, you don't even drink. Yeah, but you drunk it. That's all I needed. You don't drink? I be a cotspin a little bit. I just gave it to you and it was there. You really? Yeah, I did it like that. Well, here we is, 25, 30 years later and we still kicking him. That's it, that's the main thing. It don't matter how we got together long as we still together. That's hard, that's hard. That's one thing. So let's stay together. You know what, man? We gon' stay together. You sitting in the middle, really, that pose would be my seat right there. You know, you don't even pose you sitting in the middle. I'm a mediator. I'm the one who makes you. It seemed like you were interviewing somebody. See, like that frequency, y'all was establishing, was going, and I got it right back. That's what I'm here to do. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad y'all came down here. You know, y'all family, anytime you coming around, you know, I just musted, I come out, greet you and meet you and see what's going down, which about how I want to own his family. Yeah, especially because he represented Houston, Texas. He always talked about Houston. But he talked about East Texas too. So, you know. Yeah, but he out of line, you know, a lot of times with a lot of the stuff that he say, so I'm not gon' feed into it, he feel like he, you know, he really don't represent nowhere. He represent his self. I represent David Street. And he act like he wanna really, you know, not really like you posed to. You did all that, I mean, you done changed, man. So you don't represent Houston? Yeah, he represent Houston. Do you represent Houston? Austin? But how is that? How is that? You answer this question. Whenever you represent, cause you're born and raised David Street, right? Yeah. Okay, but then now you moved to Houston, representing Houston, but you have some people who will say, but he not Houston. I'm just playing like this is what it is on that right there. I always joke about it. East Texas, Longview, Texas is my home. I'm from David Street, 300 block. Houston have embraced me with open arms, open up a lot of opportunities for me. They family here is the same as, you know, Dallas, Austin, Houston know is my real, that's my home. My family is here to move everybody here. And this is where we rocking from. This is my new home. You know, of course I'm from where I'm from. I'm never came run from them too well known where I'm from. But yeah. Because you know how society now, especially in this industry, especially when you rep certain places because that's where you spend most of your life. Although you weren't born there. People who are born there be like, I don't understand how he or she is wrapping this into that. That's a poor, a poor mind frame in Texas. You know, it's not, especially coming from the kind of background, the kind of story that I got. Everybody, people all around Texas know my first, middle and last name. Know how long I'm like, they know where I'm from. We all know where each other is from. One of them. What's your middle? I won't say it online. I think I got it on there, doctor. But if I was to say it, that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, a lot of people in this state, they know my first look and I know theirs. I know they know mine. So it's like, it's just something that I say, but H town is definitely my home and I'm just very happy to be here. But of course, you know, I'm from Longview, Texas and I'm from Davis street for sure. That's really why I'm from Davis street. Man, I ain't gonna lie. Every time I hear that music, man, when you, the way you put it down, the way you do it, man, like it make a nigga want to go to Davis street. You made a nigga want to go down there and check it. Yeah, I'm seeing the video nigga, I want to go down and check it out. That first day out, one of my favorite ever. To be honest with you, I don't play about that song. That's how I introduce niggas to you. And it's like that, I'll never get past that cause it's so raw and real, you know what I mean? Man, thank you. We just run around and just do it, man. Just put it out there, put our best effort, put our energy and our heart into it, be fully passionate about it and just see where it take us. And it's done led us here. So with this album right here, getting that opportunity to put it out in the biggest way possible. We just, you know, we're just trying to take full advantage of the opportunity we've been given for show. Man, so when you, okay, so we know already what really the elephant in the room for me when I came down here to H town this time, it was a little different for me coming down here because I knew what I was coming for, but I know what's being said in the media and how people looking at what just happened down here would take off. So it's like, I'm coming, but it's like, I feel a certain way coming down 45 this time. Like, dang man, like, wow, you know, this really happened. And man, like, what are people temperature at right now in the city? Like that's the way I was thinking. Made a few phone calls, I know I'm silent, but at the end of the day, I still wanna just see, what's going on down in H town, you know? So just give me a spill on how you feel about the temperature. The temperature is great. We lost somebody great in hip hop. We lost an icon, a young icon, a dude that, you know, as one third of the Migos, you know, iconic, one of the biggest groups that it's ever been in this rap thing that we have. And what I think a lot of people, if you go to different cities, whether it be the Memphises of the world, New Orleans, Atlanta, and, you know, different places like this, Miami, I think that one thing that you can kind of lose track of is that because these cities have a certain significance in hip hop, you think that they are pretty much the same in how big they are. Like people really need to try to get it through their head, Houston is humongous, is very big. So, you know, you can be a part of, or hanging with some people and we never hear anything about it. You might be insulated inside of a group of individuals and, you know, us being on the South side or these people being on the East side, they may not ever, ever run into you, never contact you at all. People on the South side don't really navigate to the North. They don't really even go over there. I'm talking about it all. Like they, people spend their whole life on one side of town and it's not because they so close, mine is because this thing is humongous. This is a big ass city. So I'm saying that to say that it's not really smart necessarily to believe that because something happens in Houston, that it is the attitude and behavior of the majority of the Houstonians or the people that's inside of that culture that feels that this should happen or that, you know what I mean? Or that knows and all of this stuff. So I just try to caution people to be careful who you hang with. When you come down here, you know, of course mind your business, like my bro always say, but try to make sure you with people that you feel that you would feel comfortable bringing your mom around, bringing your significant other around. And if you're feeling any kind of weird vibes or anything like that, try to disassociate. I'm not saying anything about, you know, I don't know about how the infrastructure works or how the infrastructure or how you got killed or whatever. But when you moving around, man, just be, try to make sure, follow your gut instinct, you know, and put yourself in a position where you understand that it's very precious what I have here, which is my life. I'm gonna move like that. I'm gonna make sure that when I'm out of town, I got the right energy going and people this, like I tell people this all the time. And this is just from being in the streets, you should know this. I always act different out of town than I do at home. You know, when you at home, you know everybody, you know what's up, you know, but when you out of town, the job is to make it home. So you wanna put yourself in a mind frame and in a mindset and in an energy of, I gotta make it home. So that's gonna prevent me from arguing in a way that I wouldn't normally, or that I probably would argue, maybe if I was back home and I was on more comfortable ground, but when I'm down here, man, I'm not feeling, don't just, when you out of town, act like you from out of town. Be very cordial, you know, make sure you taking care of your business, try to minimize all of that bullshit and drama and make it back home, man. That's the most important thing. But you gotta think about this though. People who visit a certain city time after time after time, feel so at home that they don't feel like they just visiting, you know, being a tourist, so to say. They feel like this is their city as well. But it's not, when you get, you can't allow yourself to get too comfortable in other people, where other people have grown. And because the thing about it is, you can be around people and you think because of a relationship that you have with this individual, that it's gonna supersede the relationship that they have. And that's what I was thinking. I was thinking about example, like we come to Houston and everybody in Houston respect you and love you and they have a certain, you know, respect for you and then I'm hanging out with you, thinking that, okay, I'm gonna get the same respect too because I'm with you and everybody love you, so I'm good. If you get into it with somebody's, that's in somebody's entourage, who may seem like, you know, an inconsequential person to you because you and I might be here and this person might be there to us or whatever, but this person, you don't know the relationship between these people. Something got these people in this room, you know, so you gotta always just be conscious of the fact of you the I man out, the I person out, anytime you out of town. And I'm a thinker, I'm a thinker and he always say I watch too much TV, but TV ideas come from reality. A lot of them do, not all, but a lot of them do. And when I say that, when I see entourages or people who, you have a person of this status and they have their entourage with them, you can't control everybody that's with you. That's why a lot of time when something goes wrong or something get messes up, it's because of somebody in that entourage does do something that's out of character, whether we go to a certain hotel and I got everybody rooms, but one person over here had to mess up that room because they think they, it just sounds to me like you describing niggas. And at the end of the day, yeah, you can control it. If you're not going to be able to be controlled then you can't be around. And it's just that we now process of making sure that you got the elite around you because what's at stake is your life and your livelihood. The two most important things that you have here. But I hear that a lot because someone made a mistake. You hear that a lot amongst niggas. You don't hear Jeff Bezos saying damn I don't know why I brought him. You don't hear Mark Zuckerberg talking about him. I knew better than the brain. I'm sure probably in there earlier years before they got that big maybe, you know, we wouldn't hear about it because number one, you didn't have, you know as much social media and stuff like that back then, but I guarantee you had some knucklehead around. Y'all know we talking about niggas. I really, you know, when I think about, you know just somebody of that magnitude going through that here, it's not a norm. We can't normalize what happened here. You know, like and the thing is, but it does happen. You know what would be missing in these conversations when we'll be talking about this? It'd be a lack of communication about frequency and where you ask spiritually when you're around sir. Man, why we, if you out three, four in the morning arguing, you know, with whatever that we drugs or whatever that we own that we done been ingesting throughout this five, six, seven, sometimes all day period. By the time we three, four, man, our ability to really reason with one another, it gets short, man. Late at night, man. Now I don't give a fuck, man. I'm not caring. I'm not thinking about things in the same fashion as I was hours ago before that, you know whatever drugs that I was doing in our lives. So once the frequency get a little tainted, man, shit can happen. That's why you got to try to make sure that you have yourself in settings and surroundings that's conducive to you leaving with the blood still in your body. You got, it's up to you to protect your life and to move in their way and don't put yourself in these situations that can be a little, now some people, you know, it can end up being what they call like happen stands or something that just seems accidental. A lot of this shit seems preventable, but we just, we just don't want, we want better results, but we don't want to change our behavior at all. We just want to just receive something good. We want to be able to make it home. And we think that you shouldn't be tripping and you should know better and out of this type of shit, but you're not going to never take that responsibility of, hey man, what the fuck is I'm doing out at three, four in the morning, man? Shootin' some whole head dice. I'm a million, I'm rich as fuck. What I'm doing like, you got to, at some point you got to start taking your life seriously because you might not make it home. It's really that simple. The thing that I looked at next is a week or so later or whatever it may be, Kodak Black, you hear he came down here and got into a fight with somebody. I hear that happens. Now, whether it was true or whether it wasn't true, it just like, damn, like right after that, you hear something else, you know, trickle effect type situation, you know. What does it make a city look a certain way when things started just happen, like boom, boom, boom. If that's kind of like a narrative that people are wanting to pay about, man, I don't think a lot of shit happens in this city of over five million some odd people in the metropolitan area, probably seven some million people in this metropolitan area. And you're talking about like niggas, man, niggas being niggas, niggas beginning to self in these compromising positions by acting and behaving like niggas. And then when it go down, we act surprised about it. Like, I mean, what are you, I mean, I've been in the streets all my life. What you know about Dice games? I know that my daddy got shot in the head at the Dice game and my uncle got killed. Yeah, yeah, my daddy got shot in the head and he didn't die, he didn't die. Matter of fact, he kept the bullet in his pocket after that. And then my other uncle got shot in the back of the head in the same place and my other uncle burnt it in the same place. In the same place, my other uncle burnt it down so nobody else wouldn't be in there. Yeah, we ain't going in there no more. Yeah, like he had mom in town. Yeah, yeah, he burnt it all down. Because it was like my brother, one of my, but he really was more, the one that got killed that mess with him enough to where he burnt it down. And my brother had, I mean, my uncle had, now dad had nine brothers. So we recognized the deal. So we know that Dice games. It happens in this game. But I got a question about that though because you say your daddy got shot in the head there, but let me ask you a question. After he recovered, did he ever go back there? Yeah, he went back, hell yeah, he had my dad. You see, they talk about black folks mentality, like why would you go back to the same place that you got shot in the head? You gotta show him, you gotta show him. Now you gotta go back now. Yeah, you gotta go back. That wasn't even for him when it happened. But he got to come back and let him know. I'm back in this, and I know that that first day that he probably walked back up and them niggas probably like, damn, let me go back to the same place. I put the bullet in his body, right? Yeah, it's wild, man. And you know, just the whole attitude, like you say for a gambling, I have so many stories that I can tell you that where people got robbed at the gambling shack or people got, I seen my dad shout out to, well, I ain't gonna put in my dick. He liked to get died up in that hole because at the end of the day, it always be some confrontation with like you saying that. I want to be on camera saying this because if anything might happen to me in it, I want to be on camera saying something shit like this. Gambling, niggas shooting dice, that's nothing but a den of just like spirits. You can just tell that shit being influenced by some supernatural fucked up shit. The devil. Yeah, you can see it. We can see how people turned the kind of evil that people can get at dice games, winning and losing, winning and losing. We just see it happen. So we know that that shit is a deal for some bullshit. Any gambling period, no matter what, because nobody likes to lose. Nobody liked to lose. Because everybody was winning. Everybody be happy. Everybody be good. Everybody can't win. But everybody can win. Somebody got to lose. Yeah, but at the end of the day, you know, niggas been gambling up for a long time. Not just in Texas. We gonna gamble, but testosterone, pride and ego and just that ability to become possessed, man. We get like, we be having some shit flowing through us late at night, typically, and around women and money, man. Women and money and shit and gambling and talking shit and that shit can lead to some dangers, man. So you just got to be chill. And you face the face with these people. People think you cheating. Spike, guys and whatever. Maybe they don't think you're cheating. Maybe it's just you winning and I'm losing and I'm looking for a reason to fuck this shit up. Some people are sore losers. I seen, I've been in a got dice game where I shot Rest in Peace, Ray Ray. You shot him? No, I shot the dice. When I shot the dice, the nigga, he got, he was losing. So the nigga, you know, I shot and I shot five as my point where I my money. He said it was seven because of the two. He only seen one of the dice. And it's mine, I guess. I said nigga, that was five. I took my money if I never forget it. He went and got in the car, got his pistol, set it back up there and we kept shooting. Did you have to give him his money back? No. You had to show him your nuts was big. The guy ain't left. We shooting. Oh, he's showing, he's showing you like, try it again. That's what it is. In his mind. Just try it again. But he known for doing it. He got shot twice. He got hit by two bullets for pulling his gun out and shooting. That's what he do. For really, he up the pistol on you and you didn't do anything. No, I didn't. I didn't. You didn't take out yours and put it down to like, Yeah, come on. Everybody's trapped in today's game. He just had to get his approval point and he got it, I guess, because he used to pull his pistol. He loaded. You don't have people like that. They love to act like they got it. He actually pulled his pistol on you really much. No, he didn't. My money, he didn't rob me. No, I'll be better letting you know. He sent a message. Yeah. Because of the way he was, he didn't go on the day. Because of the fact of... Pulling that pistol. Because the type of plays that he would get into, but it was a dude where like, it's certain people like when you go to the club and I don't know if y'all experienced this, but certain people always was into it with somebody and that certain niggas do that, you know? So a good dude, we did a lot of stuff together, but that was just one of them time when you grew up with a nigga, y'all, we might do that next day. We shooting again. Never even think about that. Yeah. It's a norm. Well, that's because you possessed by them demons and niggas. And once they out of you, you don't remember what happened. Once we go back, we gonna go back tomorrow. We hung out after that. I got a question. Cause you were talking about drugs earlier. And I remember having someone on the show once and they talked about that almost everybody in the industry, whether it be music, film, whatever, is on drugs. For creativity purposes, I think a lot of people participate in recreational drugs in this. Whether it be syrup or... Cause when people think about drugs, they're thinking about cocaine. Well, the guarantee, if we talk about hip hop, hip hop is of the culture. It is the culture. So... So does drugs have to go along with the culture? I think that you can only control yourself, but there's a lot of people that participate in drugs in the culture. There's no getting away from that. Why? Why is it so... Why do people do drugs? Yeah. In this culture. If you knew. Well... You'd have to go hand in hand. Like, can't you have... I can tell you... Somebody that there's no sober. And I was trying to figure it in the music industry. Yes, hip hop, but I even said, so what happened to country or what happened to gospel? And they were like, well, drugs is in all these different music industries. I can only speak on hip hop. And when it come to hip hop, I just think that we live in... It comes from the streets. This rap shit, it comes from the streets. So typically when people is making it out of the ghetto, you're telling tales and telling stories about the things that it is that you like to indulge in. And what you see, what you experience, I come from the crack era. So that's in my music, that's our soul crack. We've been affected by drugs, probably more than any other culture, if you're talking about blacks in America. So it's gonna be in the music. Some people gonna abuse it. Some people that might not necessarily be the ones that are taking the drugs. That's what I was about to say. But they had it still the same because we grew up selling the drugs. We, you're not escaping drug culture in hip hop. Did you used to do syrup or any of that sort of stuff? Have I? Before? Yeah. No, I'm because they... I'm so sure. No, no. Not soda. I mean, I've drank syrup, yes. But I am with no drink head. Okay, because the reason why I'm asking that because they make me feel like once you're in that hip hop culture, yes, you know, there's some who sell it. But if you sell it, eventually you end up taking some form of hip hop, cocaine or any of that sort of stuff. But it could be syrup, weed, whatever. Like there's no sober rapper. Hip hop is a vibe business and there's more people that's sober than what you would think. Like... As a young kid, because you might have done the way and now you're not, but coming into the industry are all these youngsters on this stuff? I don't think all of any, but there's definitely a lot of people that participate in drugs. I will tell you another thing. I don't think that a lot of successful entertainers in hip hop do drugs to the level that people think they do because of their music. At the end of the day, it's entertaining. I got to interject in there because I don't believe that. Okay. I want to be honest with you. You know, I just had, shot out a little soldier slim and he talked about Lil Wayne and he went and he actually walked up on Lil Wayne and him and Juvenile were together, a little soldier slim and he was like, hey, my dad is a soldier slim, man. I just wanted to introduce myself and he said, he told him, I don't give a fuck about that. I'm God. And basically after that, he walked off and my boy said, but at the end of the day, I was like, I asked him about it when we was in ATL and he was like, yeah, he did that, but more likely he was on drugs or something. He said, Juvenile told him I should have slayed that boy, but listen, here's what I'm saying is, basically he excused it with the fact that the drugs probably were influencing him in a way that made him act like that. I think that when we hear these stories or whatnot, I think that a lot of times people don't understand what an artist be dealing with, especially artists of magnitude, like a Wayne or somebody. This is taxing on the nerves, being in this shit because it's a lot of perceptions and you'd be dealing with a lot of stress, but when the camera is on, you are supposed to be like a, you're at your best when the camera is on. When the camera not on, you're not working and somebody coming into your space that you're not necessarily, that you don't know, everybody come and smiling and trying to figure out a way to get something from you and shit like this. So at the end of the day, man, I'm pretty sure, hey man, fuck you, I don't even know. Really like get out of my face, you know? I don't know about the individual, such slim juniors. But when you think about it, it was a, you know, you see Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne has seizures. Lil Wayne have all these issues because of some people alleged it to be drugs. So when you say that these artists are not on hard drugs, I beg to differ. These dudes would do, listen, man, they do a lot of drugs, just stay up. Okay. And I always fall back on this. When you start looking at, I think Lil Wayne is like 39 years old, right? Something like that pushing 40. We talking about a dude that's been in entertainment since he was 14 years old. Come on, man. Like this man is still here right now, on tour now, you know? Like cut it out with some of these extraordinary drugs. How many people that you know that do drugs, they got, I'm talking about they was just doing drugs that they can afford, right? To the best of their ability, they doing their drugs. They got them died or they fucked all up or whatever. You talking about somebody that's supposed to be so hard on lean, so hard on all of these cocaine and drugs since they was a little kid, but somehow, some way they can still go out there on the road for 50 some days out the year, still produce music at the highest output in the game. They gotta miss me with some of that. This man has been literally doing this since he was a teenager. Here he is pushing 40. And, you know, and he's still at it. So, I don't know. Somebody said to me one time, cause I asked, I was like, well, you know what black folks take drugs, white folks take drugs, right? What's the difference? Why you see a lot of black folks getting OD'd and all this other stuff happening. And what the response to me was, which I know nothing about this, I take what other people say. That's right. What I can hear, what they say is, the quality of the drugs is different. What they give to the black community compared to what the white community gets. Oh, Lord, these conspiracies. I know, that's what I'm here because the more money you have is the better quality drugs that you can get compared to when you don't have as much money. You get what they call the mixed up stuff or the cut up stuff. You know, this is what I'm just hearing. Yeah, well, that may or may not be true, but drugs or drugs at the end of the day, a lot of people that, and when you dealing with barbiturists, you talking about heroin, you talking about Promethazine, you talking about pharmacy level drugs and all of this that a lot of people tend to be addicted to or have been throughout time. At the end of the day, we ingest drugs. Our culture loves to the... They want to be numbed from society. You know, we looking for an escape. So for us, it has become a coping mechanism that for us to use drugs. Like I said, I don't... I understand that that's the case, but I don't believe that some of these entertainers that people are talking about, especially when you got long careers, I look at long careers as a sign that there's long successful careers. There's something right. Yeah, and it don't take... If you've had prolonged success in rap as a rapper or somebody with a microphone, I just understand that your attitude is probably not going to be the greatest because it takes... This is a lot of dealing with a lot of different moving parts. Right, exactly. And not everybody who enter this industry is a people person. They just love what they do, their career as in music. They don't always... Just because you love music, that don't mean that you love people. Yeah, but that don't mean you're going to be an asshole every time somebody come up to you trying to talk to you. Well, when you meet a... I'm saying like nobody wants to support nobody an asshole. You say that, but when you meet a little Wayne or something, you might admit this man once in a lifetime, man. This man, that's why I try to say you, as human beings, if the woman is having a bad day in McDonald's, man, messing up your order at the fast food place, messing up your order at the restaurant or wherever, people have bad days, but people tend to hold celebrities to a higher blame level. But people say different things. Just like if you're dealing with a woman who is having a bad day, the first thing men say, oh, she ain't PMSing. Yeah, yeah. She does that, whatever. Just like celebrities that say, oh, he on drugs. Yeah, yeah. You know, people that say things, or if somebody have road rage on the street or driving terrible, and you can't even see who's driving, the first thing you all say, oh, that's a woman driving. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm definitely saying that. She know that's the time of the husband. Yeah, that's a woman. Got to be a woman. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? People make just crazy assumptions. That's not crazy. That's not crazy. That's not really crazy. It's been true a lot of times. That's sometimes it's men. So don't even go there. No, but at any rate, a lot of times, I've seen the cringe on the steering wheel. You don't know if I want to, you know, get out of my way. You know, I've seen that on a lot of occasions and usually it ended up being something of a female. But one thing I always say about going back to the music industry. And as I said, I'm a very observative person. When I started thinking about, you know, people in the music industry, I don't wrong them for taking substances because to me, but I don't think it's right, but I don't wrong them. The reason why I say that. Seeing a person who have tour dates back to back to back, going to city to city, they can only take a nap in the bus, driving or on a plane or whatever, but you're still supposed to be writing music, doing your regular thing, trying to call your kids, trying to call your wife, girlfriend, whoever. Hard to get no sleep. But then when you meet your fans, they're supposed to be smiling all the time. Somebody could have pissed you off or whatever, but you got to have this perfect attitude when you're around people. Hip hop is so professional now. I feel sorry for a lot of entertainers because. I don't, I don't have to beg to you. Because you got to always keep a certain persona and it's hard. Yeah, but they give money. It may be, of course, and it's your dream and your dream gonna have, it's gonna have whatever the other part of it is. But at the end of the day, hip hop, excuse me, it's so professional now. Like it's not, you're not finding a lot of people missing shows and it's corporations in this stuff. So whatever the perspective or the perception of people doing drugs, I don't really believe it's as, of course there's gonna be some examples, but I don't think in real life that there's as much to the level as they advertise it now. And these people, some of these people that we talk about, whether it could be future, it could be anybody, like, man, these careers is often today's second decade. Man, what are you talking about? Like, and then these, they not frail. These people not frail. They bright out and bust your tail when you see them moving around. You know, I don't know. Maybe I'm just not qualified to speak on it. So when is Davis Street dropping? Davis Street is coming soon. Because I've been hearing it's coming soon. I've been seeing stuff coming up, saying, this is a different process for me. Like I'm learning, I'm learning so much about it. Because you always be dropping them clean. What's up with this time? This time right here is, man, we're doing everything the right way. And- So you were doing the wrong way before? I was doing it in a, things have to be thought out because it's more than you. When it's only you, you can drop that shit when you get ready. When you talking about having to have a 12 week roll out, they want your album 12 weeks earlier, the distributor. When you talking about a single, they want your video and your audio three, four weeks before an album come out. Then you gotta do your press. You gotta do all of these different things. So if you wanna do it right, things have to be scheduled. Things have to be discussed. Okay, what we doing? This what we doing? All right. And we have to create all of this stuff that everybody sees around these projects and whatnot. So, and I'm just thankful for it, you know. So this is the first time you're doing it like this? Yeah. And do you like it better this way compared to the way that you used to do it? I can only tell when I complete the process. Right now I'm still in the middle. I gotta see what all it leads to, you know, and then I can say for a fat weather. But at the end of the day, it's my evolution. This is my taking the next step. You gotta be willing to grow past what you was doing before. Like what's the next thing I've proven that I can hold my own in music for years coming out of prison and releasing music at the weight that I did. I wanna go back to being more frequent, but this is my first time actually going through the system and doing things the way it's supposed to go. Let's see where it go. And we'll see. But David Street is gonna be coming out super soon. Look, you can say I just love penitentiary, and it looks man. These stories y'all be telling him. Just how did you and him, just how do y'all remain? Y'all always cool and y'all always been hanging and he always got respect when I talk to him about you or whatever. How did y'all build that relationship like that? He just talking every day. Like of course, I think everybody know that of course before I got locked up I had an album. He was on the album. He don't remember that that was in 2006. And upon me getting out of prison and just reconnecting, trying to rekindle what I did on my first album when I got out, I just reached back with him. Went shot the video in South Park, came from Austin, came down here. Alvo, my boys from Sunnyside, South Park. They looked out for me, King's store, everything. And it just like, we just maintained our communication, but I started talking to him more and more as I was doing what I was doing with crowns and dropping the crowns albums and having somebody that I could talk to about what I was doing. That was all ideas out. Even though I was doing something totally different, even he's done what I'm doing, what's doing at the time. But, and he just kept telling me like, man, you're going to have to do this shit the right way. You're going to have to quit playing with this shit and get for real and get into the system and make an honest effort at streaming and all of this and play the game like how the game go. Because you obviously doing it, you building up the content, the catalog. So just every day, and you know, man, God don't make no mistakes. Talking to him every day. We just got a bond, man. I talked to him more than anybody. It's the person I probably talk, that is the person I talk to the most for show. And just having somebody like that, Texas, of course, that legend word has done got so played out. But I think people really don't understand. Like, isn't it really the dude down here? For you to be on that project like that says a lot, you know. That was a very thought out project. Yeah. Yeah. That Legend album thought out properly. It was, it was, it was this one you can put in. You don't have to fast forward. I've passed no song. Like this guy, he didn't mess with that one. And I can't wait to the next one. But at the end of the day, for you to be on that project, just how was it when he even asked you to be on it? You know, I was glad he asked. I'll tell you that. I said, shit, cause I didn't want to ask. And I was in the process of seeing like, how it was coming together, you know, with Juicy Jane and the beast that was sent in and just the production level and how it was, you know, coming with these songs and shit and just everybody that was involved in making sure that it was what it was supposed to be, man, it was magical. So by the time I got asked to do something, which was, I think towards the, you know, toward the last quarter of it, shit, I was, I was already so happy just to be a part of the process of it. Hell, I had felt like I had learned so much from it. I was good with that. So when he asked me, I'm like, shit, yeah. Damn, I'm gonna be on it too. This shit really is a classic, you know? So, yeah, man. But he honestly, he's just a real good dude, man, for real, like, and really just have answered all my questions in this shit and allowed me to flourish under his tutelage, but walking me in these buildings, and you know what I'm saying? People don't give a fuck about me, man. I'm walking up in here. He's taking care of making sure that they, you know, give me a fair shot, you know what I'm saying, in these buildings and whatnot and using his favor to put me in these rooms and shit. So, yeah, I salute him. That's my brother. Man, one thing I can say, you definitely went, when I think about just the fact of you even dealing with him, like, it was a blessing for us, to even be able to go over and do the interview we did with him. And that was through you. You know, I talked to him with Mr. Lee, but you really drove it home. Even said on the episode, he was like, man, I could not do this, man. Hey, I need one for the play with me about this. You don't play by it, y'all. You know, so thank you for even allowing us. Come on, man. We don't blessing us to be able to come in. A lot of shit be happening behind the scenes. Now, you don't need to know the truth, though. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, for you to bless us and even be that persistent to say, man, you need to talk to these people, man, these good people and link us like that. Yeah, he be very, he be very busy. And then he's not always having the opportunity to see, like, detail for detail what's going on in the culture. He got big shit happening all the time. Like, some crazy shit he just did is a... Just did his Nike shoe, you know, his Air Force One shoe. They got his own Air Force One and shit. So, you know, we just... I'm seeing amazing shit happen to him at all times. So, you know. Yeah, well, I'm gonna be real with you. You one of those guys that, like I said, you deserve everything to come your way. You know, you definitely been linking. I look at your video, your visuals, filmed by Miyagi, man. Miyagi. Yeah, Miyagi. I say Miyagi because I said fast. I'll say Miyagi if you want me to. You know what I'm saying? But, right, at the end of the day, just how did you and him just... We talked about it a little bit when we did our show together. But just the fact that how... I didn't know that y'all was even locked up together. I didn't know the history of how you, what you meant to one another. You know what I'm saying? I think that was the dopest thing, man. So, just give me a spiel. And how does nigga get so good and technical with what he's doing? How he got good and shit, I don't know. I don't know what that is. Yeah, I don't know. That's something totally different. But that was my next door neighbor on Medium Custody. We established our bond over there. I don't know, you know, we... That's just my dog. That was my next door neighbor. We was bonded over books, just different things that we was all learning at the time. Solid. And you know, just kept the bond going. But I didn't know that he, you know, he wrote when he got out, he kept his solid with me. I didn't know that he had turned to shooting videos because he was one of the coolest rappers over there. You know, so on the unit, I never would have thought that he was gonna pick up no camera and shit. But the fact that he only picked it, that he picked it up and not just picked it up and got good, but became a whole brand and shit. Like, so, you know, we are very proud of real shit. That's hell, yeah. Because we didn't see that coming. Yeah, but you know, like some of the people that these, people that he's did work with, you know, these people are in deals and moving and flourishing. Yeah, but the role, I'm gonna tell you what's crazy to me is it's starting to shift. Like he's giving out the cloud. Like you need to fuck with him. You know what I'm saying? It ain't just about like him fucking with them. It's leaning, you know, the scales is leaning. So to say that that's my homie, that's like somebody that's, hell, yeah. Because I know that he came from nothing. I personally know that. I know that he had to pick it up and he had to make it work and he done actually built a whole brand out of that shit. So. That's hard. Hell yeah. I see you be recognized by Trill Talk. No, he'll talk a lot of times too. Like you, like he be posting, he gonna always post something with L.D. Just a shout out to that boy. I always rock with him. Just what does it mean for the bloggers, for the podcasters, for the people to keep your name in their mouth just basically? Well, I'm gonna say this, this is very important. I'm glad you actually could have kind of put my mind in where I, man, look, as far as this, as far as like the East Texas shit, as far as just different people, this album means so much to even like the development of like our region and shit. You know, like this ain't no bullshit, like where we at in this process right now to make it from, you know, coming out of prison, to doing these albums, to acquiring Mr. Lee, to just every step that I done went through in this shit to get to this place, to where it's getting time for this album to roll out. And it's like, I don't think people understand how much good favor that you need in order to be able to exist in this shit, honestly. And to not be, or you gonna be one of them rappers that's scamming on the side or hustling, selling drugs on the side to be in this shit, honestly. Man, you gonna, so I'm just, I'm really hoping to communicate that over to people how much support that I need for this project. This ain't no, this is not no game, it's not a joke. I have to put an album into this culture that's gonna resonate with these people and be around. You know, this is Texas, so if you do it well, we gonna remember it forever. We'll keep that motherfucker forever. So I'm looking at this as my opportunity to put that level of project into the game, you know? And we'll see, we'll see, but this shit is very important. No, no, you can tell. It's not no motherfucking joke, it's very important. The one thing that you stated earlier when you were talking to Mrs. Jamaica was the fact of, and she brought it up how you was always, and even a little kiki when I interviewed him, just how you was bringing those albums, those see those crowns right after each other, bam, bam, bam, bam, just layering them out. And then all of a sudden there's a quiet, there's a place of quietness now, before this next project. And I think it gets to the ones who really, fans of Aldi 300 Davis Street, it's an anticipated weight to where people are, they're waiting on it and they ready, and that's a good thing too. You know what I mean? As long as it deliver. You gotta deliver. That right there, I don't feel pressure from that as far as quality of music and all of that. We built to do that. What it is is all of these other ancillary parts that have to go right in order for this to get past the level where I'm at, to the bigger level, to take a right to step into the game for real. I look at all of this as like, damn, like, you know, where we at in this process is beautiful, but I have to really kill with it. And I need everybody to see it as it's not just me taking this step, this is us taking this step. Anybody that was down with me or have bought anything from me or anything like that, this is where we at in this shit. And we at a point right now where it's time to, you know, get everybody on the same page, you know. When you think about like Mr. Lee, Mr. Lee and you, you know, y'all form this relationship. And when y'all form this relationship, it was like, okay, now, you know, it's, you know, on this project, he's definitely on this project as well, right? Yeah, this is the whole, you know. Lee is on there, Buddha bless this be out of ATL, real big in Amigos catalog, Gregg Street, you know, X-File who did the first single, Silver and Gold, he got some more tracks on there. Jay Starrs, you know, of course, the Power Wilds, the Keys, all of them, you know, just, it's a collective effort, you know, Bruce Bain makes him like every step that you got to really take in this shit, like we took all of those steps. So you say Power Wilds on there, is this your first time working with Power? Yeah, Power, yeah. How was that? If you can just, I know you ain't touched. He came in there over-delivered. He came in there and got down meat, but he was only supposed to do, y'all gonna see what he did. Like he came in there and like he was supposed to do like something and he ended up doing something totally. Like, man, he, you know, like, man, I ain't gonna lie, I don't receive a lot of love in this shit. I have, man. At some point, I just gotta just say it like, I don't receive a lot of love in this shit. So I feel like I got, I have no excuse. Like I have, there's nothing I can blame it on. I can't blame it. But you put a lot of, in your music, you put a lot into it, man. So it's well deserved that you will get, you know, the respect you deserve and the doors would open the way that they're opening. So I think that's hard as hell. And it's the same thing for you. Well, you know, you know, I mean, I ain't gonna pop my collar in that nigga, but you know, a nigga fly, you know, I ain't gonna lie to you, you know, if I don't do nothing else, nigga, I did this. Right. You know what I'm saying? You did. You did, and you didn't start that long ago, to see where y'all done grew it too, man. You know, I'm very proud of you, man. You took care of your business, man. And it's only gonna get bigger and better, man. Man, man, I definitely appreciate you, man. The love you showed, boss talk on old one, the troopers, man. Y'all niggas be down with a nigga like Faux Flat Tide, you know, a country nigga know that slang. Faux Flat Tide slang, you know what I'm saying? So we down, man. And so I think, was it, it was one thing else I wanted to ask you about, and I've got to talk about the elephant in the room. You know, I always got elephant in the room. Got to do it. Kanye, you know, there's a lot going on. I heard the minister speak the other day. He ain't spoken a long time. Right. What do you think about all this riffraff? I don't need you to get, don't get banned, trying to be on boss talk one-on-one, but you know, but just give me, but don't get banned. Right. But just give me your spiel, you know? As far as on you? Yeah, just on the whole situation and what you see and how you, you know, cause you, you know, your intellect is special, nigga. Man, thank you, man. At the end of the day, like when you start talking about what happens is as a culture, we jealous of other cultures. In particularly, we jealous of Jewish people. We jealous of how they, how they can band together and be on one accord. So when you have somebody that says anything that angers them or anything like that, they come together and it's so fucking real. And it's, it just, like we resent that because we should be like that. And we just, we just can't do it. We can't get out of our own way and do it. So when it comes to where Yaya been kind of like exposing people like Kairi, what they've been exposing and what the, what Minister Farrakhan has said about just our, our frustration is not unwarranted. Like, you know, and nothing that they can't even say it or any of these people have said that if cast a light on business practices, the way people handle blacks or whatever in entertainment and in sports, where we are the, the engine of what people want to see, you know, it's a lot of problems, probably a lot of unfairness in it, right? Everybody's in there to fight for that, to get a, you know, it could be Floyd Mayweather have said some of these same things, but he had to go out there and prove his, his value while also superseding and overstepping the ones that's trying to hold him back. So we, we in that kind of position. So what we have not seen is a person make it to billionaire status, knowing that it takes a lot of corporations to get there and to just burn them off, like after you done accomplished all of that by, by exposing what's actually taking place. I actually kind of tip my head to this shit because most of us, we come from nothing. You know, we, we ain't gonna fuck that bag up. You know what I'm saying? Too many people depend on us to fuck that bag up. But for him to go up there and speak his truth like that, I think it was honorable. Now, maybe he didn't do it correctly. Maybe he's not the, always the one that's expressing itself in the most, the clearest, most articulate way, but it, you know, I just kind of look at him as shit. That's more than a lot of people would have ever done, you know, so. And to me, it's like, like a regular Joe is not affected by the Jews or by other cultures as much as somebody who is raising in power, he, the people that he's around, he see a lot more. He see how they control certain things when we don't really see that. And where you talk about. But we do see it. We see it, but we don't see it. On that level. On that level. Well, we see it at the bank. We, we see it. We, we, we see it when we try to buy a car. We see it when we try to sell our houses and they appraise our house for listing what they would have if it hadn't been a white person to do it. You know, we see it everywhere. We don't become numb to it. And it's like, it's really nothing to us. That's the reason why he can, he's not finding any support really. Did you think, did you think that it was big for even Farrakhan even come out? Cause he don't come out and hear lately for him to just come out and speak on something. I like him as that individual that can, that can give levity to situations and kind of like call the players for what they are to where we not getting overboard. Cause you know, we get emotional. He's going to be that one that's going to come out and say, you know, hey, the brother Kairi said this, the brother, yay, saying this. And you know, we've talked to him and these Jewish, he basically letting you know that a lot of these individuals that's saying something negative about yay or Kairi in the moment, they might have relationships with these people so they can't, they can't speak out as well. I like the way he don't never demonize people that have differences of opinion. If they, if they black, I like that. I like the fact that he can have a conversation with you and, and scold you without embarrassing you. You know, I think that's dope. And the way in which he does it, he articulates his words. So he's been doing this for ever, ever. So he's very, very versed in doing it. But just like when you were talking about people of certain cultures coming together and you mentioned Jewish, but I don't, it's not only Jewish, because even like being from Jamaica, you see how Chinese people, they stick together. You see how people of different culture, they stick together. Jamaicans on a whole, they stick together as well. But why is it that African-Americans, if you want to say, or, you know, in America. Niggas, niggas, right. Don't do so. It's very hard for us, it's just in our DNA to be honest. Some people blame slavery for that. Well, it's not just slavery, it's a lot of different reason. Our getting into it with one another is very entertaining to people like, like us competing against one another in whatever fashion that we do it, is something that draws, it draws attention. So people have learned to exploit us for that. You know, we can't even just say that so-and-so is jamming and so-and-so is jamming. We got to put both of them, he ain't fucking with him. Like we just liked it, we just... I say they can come together, because if people can come together for this Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys? Yes, if Black folks come together and be like, oh Dallas Cowboys, this, this, this, and they come together and nobody can say none about a Cowboys. They come together, they stick together for, right. If they can do that over a team, why they can't do that for their own culture? Wait, let me say this, let me just say this. It's not just the Dallas Cowboys, it's just that we do it a little bit different than others, so I'm glad you know this thing. But I'm just saying, you know... You know a Cowboys team? Yes, he is. The other teams, you know, the other teams, they do their thing too, but, you know, at the end of the day, we just do it at a level where it annoys you, I get it, but we just basically got to understand that we do come together at points, hey, you know, yeah, Dallas Cowboys, let's go. Okay, yeah, let's go, hopefully they can win this thing. Stillers. Stillers. No, man, it's cool, they ain't like the Cowboys. But check it, man, we in Texas, man is going down, Houston Texas, that is, man. Thank you for coming on the show, man. How can people get a hold of you if they trying to reach out? I mean, y'all already know it's the same thing. I had the 300 area where... I hope we did your justice, man. Let me see if we leave anything out. Anything left out? No. No, we didn't, we covered, flipped it, boom, boom, boom, it's over, you know what I'm saying? We didn't did it. Thank you so much for coming on Boss Talk 101, what a boss is talk, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss is talk. Ain't nobody trying to say that. And we out. Okay.