 How you feelin? I'm being fine, thank you sir. Hope you are. I'm just doing good. Dick, I want to ask for your judgment on a very confidential basis. They're baiting the hell out of us every day on this Maddox thing. I don't want to get involved and we just dodge it and run and hide. No comment. The president doesn't know anything about it. Now Welter came along and made his statement and they're baiting them again this morning. It'll be too late now. I'll let McClod breathe and Bill Morris has to go through with it and I told him to just avoid any comment any way it could if he had to make it and just say, well, I was under impression that Welter, I knew nothing about his resigning and I know nothing about the situation, internal situation in Georgia, but I thought his service was useful in the conversation. Well, I'd say he's been to young congressmen. He was. Well, he's a hell of a nice boy. He's making a devil of a mistake on this thing. He'll stay up here, but he's got word about the situation there in his home county. I would gather that with the Maddox and the Republican showing up on him, he figured he might get beat. With two gang in him, he's going to be in a dangerous position, but I don't think he's afraid exactly. He's just borrowed and he's that kind of fellow. I knew his dad is, 40 years ago, I got his father to draw the reorganization and he's going to be famous in the state and he's going to be my big, his command, stay up till now. I'm sorry personally, because I like y'all, I think he's a very promising young man, a very capable young fellow. I'm sorry, quick. I hope that you, that is a good thing for a person to say. We don't want to, we don't want to get it in anybody, we don't want to endorse anybody. I just, I thought Congressmen Welter was a young man of great promise and I regret he wouldn't be in the next Congress and I'd leave it there, I would, I would do the details. How about when you get on Maddox, what do you say? Well, I don't know anything you can say about Maddox, except it's, it's one of the things she does. Well, can we just say that this is a, you know, I'm going to have the same thing with Everett Governor, and I just, if I could say something that the, this is a matter for the state to decide and they've decided it, I'm not familiar with the record or the, the individuals involved. I think that'd be the best thing to say. I just think it's, of course, that it's up to the people to enjoy your elected governor, that you had plenty to do without getting involved with the given tour of campaign. I don't want to get in a thing where I'm hitting at Maddox, at the same time I don't want to get in a thing where I'm embracing him. Well, I agree with that completely. The Maddox, if he's elected, ain't going to be as bad as he sounds. He sounds impossible, because he's a Maddox's little hard way fellow. He had to leave school when he's 12 years old, carry three paper outs to help his mother support his two younger kids, the brothers and sisters. He's a, and he made a lot of money and he made it the hard way. And he felt like it was his and he did raise hell down there at one time. But Maddox is really a, a very religious, a Godfair man. He braids over everything. That's just a sunscrew, big splash that's out of there. I don't think he'd be, if he is elected, which is doubtful now, I don't think he'd be as bad. Really, it's the gala way it would be. It's the gala way it goes. It's got a little more culture and $50 million back in him. And got a lot of education at Uncle Sam's expense. West Point, down to Montgomery, was resigned one year before he fulfilled his commitment on the ground. His father's health management, that's necessary for him to go on. I like Bo, he's a nice fellow by the way. If I just had to take a choice between two, I'd take Maddox. It looks like we could go down to that. I knew they weren't going to elect Donald. Because people outside of the city have never, have had any conferences in that song. I never have been able to put my finger on the reason for it, but I knew it was there. And he would just have to carry the decision completely solidly to a woman. Now, one other thing, on our appropriation bills, our revenue is running very well. We don't want to get any ruinous inflation. And I had all the Democrats down last night from the finance committee. And they whoppled around and quarreled a little here and there, thought right and others. But I would gather that Dirksen says he's helping. They'll report this bill and get on. Because we're having a buzz or orders. And if we postpone it, we'll go up to 62 or 3. That's right. Mike said he was going to help, and Dirksen said he'd help. So I assume that's it. Now, I want to act as quickly as I can when I know these appropriation bills. Do you have a sense or feel like you always do have the Senate? That's what they will do on things like your poverty bill. And your other education and stuff. These candidates have assumed appropriation so much better than I ever thought they would. I should. I no longer can analyze it, since they come up with you there and they have time to have a vote over that. Ordinarily, I would think the Senate would cut that bill back to your budget. I ask of Manspey and Dirksen to offer a motion for both of them and point out that the budget had jumped from 98 to 113. We had $5 or $6 billion worth of the Great Society stuff. We'd eliminated old projects to make room for it. But we had done it in education. Poverty had a billion set to $150 more had last year. And we really had less need for it this year than we had last year, because we've got a lot better employment. But Dirksen said he'd do it. Manspey will just grunt it, didn't say. They could get an answer out of it. But that's awfully key, that and the education. Because we'll overdo this thing, the people will abolish them and get them out of the way and get there. Yeah, I'm sure you will. If Manspey would take the lead, we could cut that thing back to your budget without any trouble. I worked there ever since you called me before. I took that military medical assistance bill over here. And I cut it $60 million below the house and $20 million below your request. But I got a better bill because I worked on it more deliberately. You signed it just about. Yes, I did. Well, you say a word to Manspey. I'll just kind of encourage him. Let's say let's stay on the budget. The budget's going to be $115, as it is. He's gone over, you see, with the pay and GI bill and military aid and those things. And it's going to be. I don't know if Manspey will, yeah. Just tell him it's going to be. I think it ought to be cut back. And he knows it ought to be cut back. You chairman of appropriation? We've talked about it in the policy committee. Well, if he and Dirksen would just do it and offer it. And just on the theory that I set up $113, it's already $115 to $16, already down here. So it's that much. Now, if you go to add in $3.25 billion on poverty, then education, that's probably sitting over there, just waiting. Well, they've got, of course, $1 billion or something here now. Oh, education, he had $2 billion and Wayne did on the authorization. Well, we've got to cut that back because that budget's going to hell. It will be when you get it. But you're right up against this other one today, so you say something to him. All right, I'll work on that later. I haven't bothered you anybody else. There's a little project I enjoyed here that I may have would have mentioned thought about, but they told me it was approved. And then later they withdrew that approval after I'd notified the people it was approved. And I've gone into the project getting nothing wrong with it. Who ought I call about that? Marvin Watson? Yeah, well, Jake's here now, and I'll get him to you. Give him a name. I'll put him on, and he'll look at it. Here's Jake, Jake's with me. Yes, sir, Senator? Yes, sir. This is a Georgia Financial Manufacturing Corporation that's doubling Georgia. They want the loan of $1 million, $100 million.