 Welcome to the original gangsters podcast. I'm your host Scott Bernstein of a quick cater addition and some pretty shocking news out of a Sicilian media outlet in the aftermath of the Gambino bus last week and then all this Hubba Lou about digging for bodies up in the Hudson Valley related to the Gambino's and the Sicilian wing That according to a Sicilian newspaper a name from the past is is now apparently a name in the present Jackie the nose to Miko a long time fixture in the Gambino crime family first as a soldier then as a couple then as a boss Ran the family was a very close confidant to John Gotti and the Gotti wing of the family has been a liaison for years to the Sicilian wing of the family from the Gotti Gotti camp Was a guy that originally Frankie boy Callie was put into Was put into Jackie knows his crew Jackie knows like I said ran the family in the 2000s it seemed like he'd been he ran into a little bit of legal problems and in the late 2000s came out of prison I think in 2012. Yeah, I really heard much of him he's 86 years old but according to this new media report out of Sicily he traveled to Palermo back in the summer in August of 2023 and was seen meeting with a Sicilian Don by the name of Giovanni Battista battle mentee. He's not from the Chinese battle mentee is he's from another group the Touretta clan he's alleged to be the boss he's on the run right now from Italian authorities but there's reports that that battle mentee was meeting with Jackie to Miko in Palermo in August they were seen on a patio of a restaurant having a meal and a meeting. I'm still trying to figure out what this means. I had assumed Jackie like I said he's 86. I'd assume that he had long retired is a guy that is clearly in some type of emeritus status. I knew that he was you know close to the Sicilian guys even though he's he was born in Italy, but you know, what wasn't considered a part of the Sicilian faction of of the Gambino's was was very closely closely aligned with John Gotti. And it's not shocking and one sense it's shocking and another sense it's not I mean it's shocking in the sense that we haven't heard this guy's name in a while. So when you get when you get away from the initial kind of double take factor. When you actually go granular on this thing and die, you know, go from the macro to the micro. It would make sense if this is more than just Jackie was traveling on a summer vacation with his family and wanted to meet up with some people that he knew from the past they happen to be mob guys and it wasn't really official business or the other side of this is that he was sent there by Manino and Shifulu to discuss criminal affairs on their behalf with the mafia out there was another thing interesting to point out is Batista battle mentee has been spending most of his years over, let's say over the last decade or so in the United States. He's ruling the Tourette clan but spending most of his time in New York, which also might explain the connection to Demico, but they were seeing meeting. And it looks like Jackie, the nose. Jackie knows Demico is he might have accident stage left when I was entering stage left again in the current soap opera that is the Gambino Sicilian faction and what's going on with this bus from last week with with the 18th Avenue crew. Joe Lonnie Joe Brooklyn the capo of that Sicilian faction and a guy that was mentored by Lorenzo Manino and Frankie boy Cali. And now is facing both assault charges in in state court in New Jersey for a vicious assault on some restaurant owners and Tom's River and now is the headline defendant in this big Gambino. Um, racketeering case targeting the trash hauling industry the guard of the demolition industry and in the construction industry and labor racketeering related to that. Jackie Demico was not indicted in that case last week either was Lorenzo Manino or Italian Dom this right now is solely a Joe Brooklyn issue but I got the feeling that this the last The last chapters of this have not been written and who knows where Jackie the nose fits in but he is a guy that you know everybody likes he's somebody that gets, you know, is a politician, a guy that has been able to kind of seamlessly maneuver his way through multiple mafia groups both here and overseas is a guy that has a lot of connections and and other families besides the Gambino's a guy that has a lot of goodwill capital in in the underworld both here and overseas. So we'll see I will keep you updated on what's going on with Jackie knows but he's back in the media right now at least On the other side in Sicily was seen meeting with Don battle a mentee in Palermo in August of 2023 Jackie the nose welcome back for OG pod I'm Scott Bernstein