 All right, welcome, welcome to Unhinge with the DoorDork where door hardware nerds get together, we slam and we knock on different doorbells. We learn, we laugh and sometimes we cry, hopefully less of the crying and more of the laughing. But most importantly, we door frowned while we learn and have some fun. Today, we have a very special guest, Mr. Kevin Hardman, owner of Hardman Glazing Management. Why don't you tell us a little bit about you, your company, and then a fun fact. Sounds good. Yeah, I've been in the trade for pretty much my whole life at this point. Fourth generation, it started our family, started in the trade back in the late 1890s. So we've been in it for a good stint. Learned from my grandfather and then my father worked with him, owned a company with him for 20 some odd years before he finally retired here recently, which was kind of bittersweet in a sense. But it was a great experience working with him and learned a whole lot. And so now what I've decided to do in starting this particular company is I've wanted to kind of branch out more from where we did most of our work in California and the West Coast. But I wanted to touch the whole country if possible. And so now with this management company, I can either bring labor in myself or we can also work with labor that is brought in by the homeowner or the general contractor. And from that, we can help them manage more challenging projects, things that are a little more in depth, large scale, real tricky layouts, or products perhaps that they haven't used before that we're familiar with. And we kind of help them break the learning curve and work through that. And that allows us into all aspects of the trade. Again, oversized, historical, residential, commercial. We kind of get our hands in everything and have touched products from literally every to the globe at this point. And it's been a fun ride, for sure. But in that same event, I would say that a fun fact is that I actually started at 10 years old. And my first, yeah, my first out of town job, my dad sent me away for an entire summer when I was 12. And I got to work on a job out there in Sacramento on the post office, which was fun when the federal inspector came up and kind of lost it. Seeing a little kid run in the jail, gee, and set in glass in the Claire story. Took a little clarification, but we got it dialed out thanks to my dad. You've been a door hardware nerd for quite some time and you've grown up in multiple generations of door hardware nerds. I mean, I still have a lot of the old tools from it and a lot of the old tricks of the trade. I mean, back from putting work and letting glass all the way up to the new age stuff. And I remember telling my dad when I was a young guy, I said, I'll do anything in this trade but doors because I don't like them. So for the next two years, I made every door and frame for not only our couple, but a couple more. And then when they installed them, they sent me out to go fix them all and adjust them. So I learned to love them and realize, oh, the doors, once you know that, everything else is pretty easy. Oh man. Yeah, that's amazing, that's amazing. And as always, you know her, you love her. Mrs. Mia Merrill, I wanna jump in and say hello and I think you've got another fun fact for us today. I do, hello, hello, welcome to this episode. My fun fact is, have you ever seen a teal jettah? Well, that was my first car. I had a 1994 teal jettah. So if you, there are still some on the road now, keep your eyes peeled. You might still see one. It might be my old one. I'm sure you can spot that from a mile away, but now I'm gonna have to, like as I'm driving, I'm gonna have to spot them now on the freeway. Yeah. Yeah, now you'll see them everywhere. Why not I share a fun fact? Not many people know this, but back in the day, I used to do competitive food eating competitions. And I did pretty well for my age category because that was 12 through 14 when I competed. And I think my record for hot dog eating, in 30 minutes, I had 28 hot dogs, which at the time, it was a lot of hot dogs. And people say like, can you eat hot dogs again? And no, I couldn't like eat hot dogs for like a whole year after doing something like that. So there's a fun fact. I think that maybe at a show, we might have to sponsor a Doar Hardware Nerds food eating contest. It might not have to be hot dogs. Okay, so for those who don't know how Unhinge works, I will share my screen. Pop up a picture of a door install, something that's gone terribly wrong or something that's a little off risk. A unique application will throw out helpful tips and then we'll give it a knocking score. One being not too knocking bad, but 10 being pretty knocking bad, like call the AHA fire marshal, we gotta get this taken care of. And yeah, how does that sound? We'll jump on in. You ready, Kevin? Let's do it. Let's dive on in. Are you ready? Yes, sir. Are you sure? I don't know if you're ready, Kevin. I need to meditate on it for a second. I have coax spacers. Good eye there. First impressions, what do you guys see? What's going on here? There seems to be a little alignment issue. There's some jogging in there that doesn't look quite right. But that's a pretty significant gap there. Yeah. From the frame to the electric strike. Yeah, it's interesting that top shim, if you wanna call it that too. What they have going on there seem like maybe it just happened to be in the bag and fit the bill at the time. Yeah, it's something rolling around in the back of their truck they pulled out. I believe it's the old BNC connectors, like little connecting pieces that they kind of shoved in there to space this out. It's like a custom standoff. Yeah. And they're bending a little bit. I mean, that doesn't seem very stable either. Maybe it's to adjust the gap. They just compress it a little more to get the even gap they've been looking for. Yeah, they didn't have a torque driver when they put that on so they can measure exactly how tight it was. Yeah, if the door's jamming up a little bit, they just give it a little shake and that gives it the little flexibility in there. Yeah, it's spring loaded, perfect. Yeah, compress that half inch diameter down to three eighths. It should work perfect. Okay, not too knocking bad. I don't know if there's any code violations here. I mean, that is for an exit device, but what do you guys think if you give this a knocking score? I'd probably roll it into that four category because like you said, functionality can still be there but it's just not the appropriate attack. There's probably no code violation, but since the spacer's flexible, you could probably attack it from the outside and get in. So it's not a secure opening. So I think it's probably a six or a seven for me. Yeah, I would say it's definitely somewhere in that area, no life safety issues, but yeah, not having it screwed in and the flexibility of those shims I think would just give someone too much leverage. Imagine like some punk kid going up on this door after hours and just kind of rocking this that electric strikes just kind of start beveling and eventually just snap off if he gets enough torque on it. And those things are beast. They're not supposed to do that. I just think the leverage with the angle and the spacing is not great. Okay, are you guys ready for this next one? Yeah, let's do it. 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