 We're both recording um, so I'm really happy to be back with my matey Bryce and for our second Short coffee chap. So our shorter video things and we're actually gonna be speaking straight after this with one of my other friends Arunus on our passion series. So before we get stuck in to what we're gonna be talking about today, Bryce How are you doing? I'm good It's early here over in Georgia and it's so fun because I get to see you today with the sunouts in England Normally when we're filming it's dark for you because of my time change. So you look very lovely very light It's just such a lovely day here I went through because I'm working all this afternoon and all evening I went for a lovely two hour walk with my dogs and it's just so beautiful and the temperatures lovely and the bulbs are Starting to come up and I think we might have a cold spell coming but spring really feels in the air even though It's only February. So Today we are going to be starting a little series of sort of kicking off some of our coffee chats With our really good friend Liz who has got her Etsy shop on the t-shirt and we've had Liz on our passion series as well And you and I we love wearing clothes I haven't got mine on at the moment because mine hasn't come but you want to stand up and model for us and Catherine you surprised me with this shirt The more I know I Got you and Liz so I'll have to tell you guys the mail in Atlanta gets a little tricky sometimes We have some issues with our post office here But both you and Liz in this week have sent me that message like girl Go check your mailbox and I was so excited to get this shirt Of course, I got that we are all just walking each other home shirt before but this is literally I feel like this is the theme for this time in our history You know So Liz is amazing and vice do you just want to pull up her are you able to pull up her details just so we can Yeah, and of course, we're both be putting it below the videos But the Liz Olive show this is Liz on YouTube right and if you go to her on YouTube, we'll put all her links below She's obviously got her link to her Etsy shop there as well, which is amazing And this t-shirt if it's not already on there will be on there because she's just about to add it in so that one there They're lovely purple to vest there is one. We're gonna be talking about next week. We're just walking each other home I've ordered a few of these but because they're going to the UK. Obviously, they're taking a little bit more time She's still talented. She's so talented. We have the Charlie Ward shirt here. That's very popular It's all a pantomime and in these sketches she does I believe right Catherine. She does these yeah It's absolutely brilliant. So when I wanted something special for Christ's birthday I was like, oh, this is this phrase that Bryce and I are always using together You know the more I learn the less I know and so she came up with a choice of designs We had such things so she's going to add this onto the shop I so within the next few days it will be on there So if you like it guys you can order it and also she is quite open like for me in the UK I wear long sleeve t-shirts, so she's gonna put some long sleeve t-shirts on there as well So don't be shy about if there's something that you want It's always worth contacting Liz because she's so creative and really developing her shop all the time And you can tell me right here contact shop owner like it's so easy to get Yeah, she's literally one of the kindest human beings that you will ever meet so She's and she's you know it as a business as a small business owner I'm sure she wants to get feedback from people You know the fact that she lives close to me So the fact that we might not think about the fact that Someone in the UK or in a colder climate might prefer a long sleeve t-shirt So don't be afraid to reach out to her because we as a business owner you need to understand She probably wants that you know like oh, that's awesome cool idea. Let me do that. So yeah, so But the reason we twice and I love When things I've got my boring claim one on today because mine haven't arrived and I didn't want to have another conflict But we love wearing clothes that sort of sums up our energy our thoughts where we're at Don't we why is that quite important to you Bryce? You know, it's so funny So there's this great. I'll link it in my description box below There's this great video that Richard Freeman did a while ago called yoga ruins your life And one of the points he brought up is that your sense of fashion goes out the door when you're used to wearing Comfortable clothes and being able to move your body and I literally Have gone years without wearing jeans blue jeans because only where I'm gonna have to now because I realized I When you wear clothes that are comfortable you you are better as a person, you know When you wear something that you feel good in you feel comfortable and you can move in your behavior is better You know, I think about all When I worked in like, you know a normal job and having to wear high heels every day Like how miserable I was and that's the thing about clothing and shirts and being able to express yourself in a more comfortable Cocoon for the day then you behave better and you actually become more attractive Even if it looks like you're just wearing a t-shirt if your energy is up You are more you have a more of a magnetism with other people. Does that make sense? Am I making sense? Completely and you know, we have all the energy we talk about vibration a lot on these shows and things and that is something that's really really important to me and When I put something on most of my friends know me. I've always got A slogan with a t-shirt on like my favorite at the moment is be the person your dog wants you to be or the be the person Your dog thinks you are and I just that to me is a Visible reminder every day of light to be better than I was yesterday And for that that sums up everything about if we were all the people that our animals want to just be the World would be a great place. So sometimes embodying it not only is it infusing yourself with that energy But it's also putting it back out there for everyone else, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely And I this quote that we're talking about the more. I learned the less I know That we before we were filming I was like basically we've found out that we don't know anything Like we really don't know anything and that's so that keeps you in a place of humility And when you're in that place of humility, you're you're open to learning and to growing and expanding within yourself I there was a funny meme that was going around a long time ago that I just cracked up It was like, you know before before you think you're something special Remember there was a point in your life where you were just trying not to shake your pants You know like you always have to come down to that that place of humility And when we're at that place of humility and we're actually in a kind of a vulnerability in a positive way Then I think humanity will be far greater because we realize we need each other. I Think that's so so important and you know, the reason I love that saying so much is you know coming from a very scientific Background and still having a lot of friends that are very much in that arena I think it it's combining all of them You know, we get we've we get to a stage often where people say all the academics are the least awake and these people this and It's just more labels. It's ridiculous every single person is Complex and and if you're like me, you can go through those are different faces in one day That's been called being a woman But I think it's really important to sort of stop dropping the labels and opening and discussions And you and I was saying one of the things we love most about Liz's work and her design is it's very non-political Yeah You can this can mean you can both be way in the same set thing and it can mean different things to different people It opens up a discussion and isn't that what we're trying to do in this day Open up a genuine discussion. I'm really listening to both points of view make conversations great again bring back to me You know That's where we are we are at that point in our and I have said it before with you Catherine I mean I was born in 1983 So I feel like I was like the last generation to actually have like a proper childhood because we didn't have the internet You know, we had to actually go to the library and we had debate We had to debate and we had we were assigned Which side of a topic we were going to take and so if it was you had to go and research Even if it was a point of view you didn't inherently agree with you had to then go research the other side's perspective And if we will come back to that idea of having conversations So I love the round table so much that we do because you get to hear even though a lot of us on the round table are coming from the same Point of view, but there's also different perspectives of that point of view and you exactly if you can listen Into what it opens up this world of possibility for you as well You know, it makes you limitless when you're willing to hear what the other person has to say You know, and I remember my sister. This was a while ago This was right when the whole fiasco of 2020 started globally. We'll say you guys know what we're talking about the You know that that thing that that they said is bad And my sister is like yes this My sister the beer the beer bug, you know, she's like us She didn't see the big deal about you know, what was going on and why? schools were closing y'all that kind of stuff because she's got young kids and She ended up pulling her kids and putting them in a private school. So they didn't have to all day Well, my nephew's best friend's mother My sister said something amazing one day to me I thought was so compassionate she had been on the phone with Her son's best friend's mother and she said I realized talking to her that people are actually Afraid yeah, and I felt compassion for her because and when my sister said that I was like that was so Mature of her spiritually to even though there's frustration with people who are falling into the the story But to actually listen to someone and realize that this woman was terrified Yeah, here to send her kids to school because she had she believed and to have that compassion not for Believing the story but for feeling that fear and that's kind of I think What in a way what what we want is to be able to understand where other people are coming from so that we can come to a place of compassion Versus judgment if that makes sense. Yeah, oh It really does and and I will admit very strongly that yesterday I well and truly fell off my perch on that one because I was out to lunch with Some extended family measures and they were took members and they were telling me about how a lot of their friends Still will not go out anywhere will not let anyone into their house or things like this and these were quite elderly people And I really was not able to feel much compassion for that and then I because I was like Jesus You know talk about putting yourself into a self-imposed cage after all this time And then I really thought deeply about it and I thought God. Yeah, it's really interesting about how I Wasn't able to yeah in that moment I was not able to get in there and and it opened up a whole conversation in my own head with myself about How complex these situations are because you're so right that's so great of your sister to To show compassion in that situation and to genuinely genuinely feel it because there's a big difference between genuinely feeling compassion and Saying it and not being genuine about it. Yeah, and then also about What am I doing about Not helping people stay in a victim mentality Mm-hmm, and it's such an interesting debate, isn't it? And I must say, you know Sometimes I really don't feel I get that right Yeah, well, that's the point of being human right like interesting I recorded part three of the Magdalene series yesterday and And she and she goes through this this in the book of the gospel of Mary They she quotes Jesus. Yeah, she was saying that there is no such thing as sin That sin is just you forgetting who you really are and so you dive deeper into that you look at mistakes you make and you're what we considered like sin mistakes you make and All they are is like stepping stones for you to reevaluate yourself and learn more about yourself if that makes it like of course They're psychopaths, of course There's people that are doing horrible things but for the average person, you know When you make that mistake where you judge too quickly or you say something you regret or you you didn't act the way You you wanted yourself to act it gives in that that comes up in you it gives you that opportunity to then reevaluate your own self and that in And yoga we call it Pratyahar. It's like self-study. It's the withdrawal of your senses to study your own self You are your own science experiment at that point and I think we do I love that Be the person you think your dog is because if we actually went around our day Remembering that that was like our mantra then we would definitely have to like backpedal a little bit in course correct because we are constantly Not being the person our dog thinks we are or that we want to be You know, but that there's wisdom in like experiencing that downfall within ourselves as well, you know, it's it's um Yeah, so right and they see the animals see the real you not what you're trying to falsely perhaps project into the world And I'm talking about the Royal week not roles But you know just just generalizing and things and it's really fascinating I've been doing those what I'm currently writing my course at the moment on animal communication because lots of people have said They want to learn and so I'm putting a course together on that and it's just absolutely Just wonderful. I mean, I'm just loving it because one of the things I was looking at yesterday Was do animals feel guilt? And it's really interesting because we know they feel the whole range of emotions that humans have But one of the things I have noticed is they don't stay in guilt So they might say if they if they nicked a bit of food off the table or something say a dog and you say Oh naughty girl. Look what you've done. You've taken my dinner. They'll sort of they know they've upset you But they let go of it. They're not the next day. They're not thinking. Oh, I really shouldn't have taken mom's dinner You know, they've moved on to the next things and I think what I find really brilliant between animals is yes They feel all the emotions and absolutely, you know, if you've if you've had animals that have had abuse in their life They definitely hold on to things But they don't stay in the lower vibrational Emotions and keep beating themselves up like humans have does that make sense and makes perfect sense? Yeah, and it's funny. There's a there's a funny YouTube I can't remember the name of the dog this came out years ago But it was something the guilty dog and the guy he ate the cat treats and then the guy's filming I mean he's sitting in the corner like trying to smile Is so funny, but it's and I remember people talk about when you're training an animal our dog like, you know When they do something they're not supposed to do you have to address it right then and there because if you address it later They're they've already released it. Yes. Oh, and um, yeah, it's it's for sure. It's it's um, even there was a book I it's actually sitting in my trunk in India whenever I'll get back to India it was written by psychiatrists about like the Fight our flight or freeze response and it talked a lot about how animals when they freeze and fear if the Predator is left their nervous system You'll see him like shake it off literally and then they allow their body to like shake off the fear and then they move on What happens to us humans is we don't shake it off We don't allow ourselves to shake it off and so when you get into like a huge influx of trauma And your body you'll start shaking uncontrollably again And then you want to stop it but they're saying no allow that to happen because that's what the animals do So that they can release that energy and and not carry that around within them All the time all the time and I think you know this sums up again going back to Um, you know the the more I learn the less I know As I think it's just being aware to all the time to just be like Taking on this new information and trying it out and seeing what works for you and what doesn't work for you And we can get so hung up particularly in this sort of truth movement about Who's right and who's wrong? There's lots of conversations at the moment about Certain people and are they on the good and are they in the bad and and you're just like oh my goodness You know, I know in one respect We're having these conversations and people want to have these debates And it just so happens that a lot of them are having them online But so long as everyone realizes when they're saying it is just their opinion. They don't know They don't know and time will tell one right time will tell It's funny you say that because I was even thinking about you know, the more I learned the less I know with like experts We've been put in this um society where we We give all of our power over to who we who we assume are experts And I think that as like the youtubers as well I think we sometimes get put in that category, but I'm like I'm just a girl from georgia Like I'm just I'm just I mean my opinions throughout this whole two years of being on youtube My opinions on matters have changed a lot have fluctuated And I've said a lot of times on my channel the only thing that I can control is my own research And that's why I like to present my research just so we can talk about it So I can read the comments and see what other people have to say And and that again goes back to like yes You don't have to and I know this is maybe even a product of where we are where we think we have to agree with Every single thing a person says in order for that person to be aligned with us. And that's just not true It's not true You know and and half the time you might not even agree with your own thoughts six months down the line So are you not aligned with yourself? You know, and I think that's where this debate is coming It's like if one person on the platform says something wrong or makes a prediction that doesn't come true All of a sudden that person is like Chest is like put aside as as bad and no, we're all just trying to figure it out together You know, right? It's um, it's so funny. I was going through my my baby book Um, my mother had saved you last night and I found a note that my I put on my twitter I found a note my mother had left for my dad when I started walking and one of the notes said Bryce takes four steps sits down gets back top takes four four more steps sits down And it's like and I was reading that I was like wow as an adult We don't sit back down again We don't like we constantly feel like we have to be moving forward moving forward But if we if we move forward sit down for a minute, let it settle in just like that toddler learning how to walk Listen to people Understand people are coming from a different perspective We don't have to place judgment on them whether they're good or bad if that makes sense Oh so much and it's funny because I was looking at some of the comments Which were really really good comments and like you I'd love seeing them But after our round table with Medina and David And when we were briefly touching on the twin flame stuff And then I'd got a lot of comments So when I was saying well, what about this for the twin flame doesn't mean I do or don't believe in the twin flame I was just exploring things because it occurred to me over the last couple of weeks Particularly when everyone's speaking about mercury retrograde and the moon and you know all this and that I was like Well, we're talked about brainwashing From the deep state type of things or whatever you want to call it and from mainstream and Making us behave and think certain things as of the norm but I want to question on the other side of things as well because for example My husband doesn't know anything about mercury retrograde and he never has anything go wrong with his technology Or computers around that time. So it's just that it's not uh, I think this I'm just like well, we we talk about attracting into our lives What we think about becomes our reality And he's never had he's never had one letter about this even those with the same gp as me I've been talking about this a lot more than him. He's just completely ignored the whole thing He's never been asked anyway. He's never been asked about this. He's never had so like I'm I'm just putting it out there to the Universe well, how do we know much mercury retrograde really has all these negative effects? It's a very convenient excuse and it might have but it's not affecting people that don't know anything about it in that right Ignorance is blessed in that way. Yeah. Well, you know, it's so funny because I I just filmed I'm not it's going up on my channel later today with uh with our friend Cindy because we're going through She's she's into like calling in the planets And so we did venus and jupiter and then she was saying next week She wants to talk about the moon and she said something she's funny She goes but you know there's controversy around that I was like, yeah Because we don't even know if it's real or not like you know, it's it's but it's still it's just this this conversation It's funny my Perception of twin flames has actually changed since before that I always knew about the twin flame But I always thought it was like you were on one side of the veil and they were on the other But then I went back and reviewed Plato's symposium, which I had read a long time ago And I was like, oh wait now my opinion's changed and so yeah It's just it's like we're all just scrambling trying to figure out What's what but at the end of the day isn't this all just as the band stick says isn't this all just a grand illusion anyway And we don't need an answer. That's the beauty of it But to me I have now reached a stage in my life Well, I do not need an answer. I love having the conversations I can't wait for that moon one because for me with all my herbal medicine with the animals So for example, I would always do a herbal dewormer on a full moon because that's meant to bring the parasites out And be the most effective But I was laughing in a conversation the other day because I was like well If the moon turns out to be something completely different to what we think it is Then will it really be affecting the parasites in the way I think it is, you know, I don't care I don't I don't mind if it's different. I just Fascinating to find I know here because we don't you know with our yoga shell We signed a contract with our school in india that we closed down on moon day So we don't open on a new moon or full moon. We are supposed to rest that whole day Um And I know that like living in a city if you live in a big city You can probably ask one of your police officers or you know a hospital worker Like what they know the moon schedule because the full moon always is crazier for them But what's interesting is because you know In my at this point where I'm sitting now with the moon I think we do have a moon, but I don't think what we see is actually that moon Does that mean like the sun might not be the you know, so so there's there's a yeah It's that whole like well then what is that? The more I learn the less I know I know so We'd never be having these fun conversations if it was like right tick that one off You've got the answer tick that one off how boring would the world be? And that's how all the great inventions have been met You know it may because it's like you think this is it and then someone takes it up to the next level and the next level And actually a lot of what we're doing is just remembering what people before us have already known Anyway, and perhaps we've already known in previous lives Isn't that the scientist in you though always questioning always questioning always questioning, you know That scientists are philosophers and philosophers are scientists because it's always questioning always questioning always questioning Why why why why? You know and it's gonna see that in our next chat with runus because we've worked together and he'll know how annoying I can be In real life, but it's just fascinating. I think I just haven't even though physically I'm 54 now mentally. I'm still in that five-year-old stage of why why So I'm still knowing people now with that But oh my god, well you muddle it so beautifully you really do and Now all we've got something exciting because one more time y'all because this shirt like look at that design. She did Beautiful beautiful and I said this on one of my own videos with the you know updates for the my channel I talked about that this tank top next level that the branch. She's using is a really good tank We use that a lot of yoga shawls use that for their their studios Tank tops. Yeah, it's a brand. It's not going to shrink. It's not it's a really sturdy Good brand of so whatever size you are. This is a small For me is a small so you know if you're a lady and you Want it more coverage in the chest area maybe a medium, but this is a small so Yeah, great brand. We are really excited because Liz is giving our listeners 15% of anything in the shop on an ongoing basis So we will put the code below but the code is passion p a s s i o n And if you use that coupon code Which Bryce and I would be both putting below all our videos you and the link to Liz's shop And we have really we are passionate about supporting People who are getting off their backside doing ethical businesses And moving forward in the way that we want to and let's get us all off these big corporates that we don't think we'll know What they're doing and let's start supporting wonderful people like Liz and other people who are really Moving the world forward and really shaping their own way. Aren't they absolutely absolutely and you're so good about that Catherine I have to brag on Catherine because she literally we know a lot of people in our Truth or movement who have small businesses and you're constantly Constantly supporting people behind the scenes and they're small businesses And I don't think our viewers know that you do that so I'm going to put that out there because Catherine is truly doing it from a place of humility and compassion and empathy and she Doesn't tell people she's doing that guys, but she's always constantly out there supporting people's businesses. So She's practicing what she's preaching Well, thank you. I hope everyone's enjoyed our next coffee chatter I'll have to make myself a nice organic coffee next time. I've got my lemon juice And we will be back shortly won't we for our next exciting installment. Thank you for watching everyone Let us know what you think about this the more I learn the less I know What does that what does that bring up for you? Have fun? Bye