 President Mohamed Abu Hari and the visiting circuit Antonio Guterres today engage in talks bordering on war against terrorism, food security and other international issues. We welcome Guterres at the State House at about 3pm before going into closed-door discussions on matters affecting Nigeria, Africa and the world at large. Guterres who arrived in Nigeria on a two-day visit was in Meduguri, Urbano, where he interacted with victims and repentant Islamist militants on Tuesday. He is visiting Nigeria for the first time since he assumed duty as UN Secretary-General. He had before the meeting with President Abu Hari performed a reslay in ceremony for victims of the 2011 bombing at Nigeria's UN House in Avudha. It's really no true solution to the problem of global food security without bringing back the agricultural production of Ukraine and the food and fertilizer production of Russia and Belarus into world markets despite the war. And I'm determined to do everything to facilitate a dialogue that can help achieve this objective. Coming at a time when the entire global attention is focused on the unfortunate situation in Ukraine, we in this region are feeling already that the world is forgetting about us. There can be no better assurance that the world is with us as we confront extremist terrorist organizations, hunger and the enormous problems of leading with millions of displaced people that this important visit. Paul Ejima, an international affairs expert, join us now to take a look at the significance of this visit. Good evening Mr. Ejima. So why does Nigeria need to wait for Russia and Ukraine for food sustenance? Well, that is part of the governance problem that Africa, you know, not just Nigeria but Africa, they have had to deal with it, that they are not self-sufficient in food production. And so you have to depend on those who can produce and then you continue to buy. You remember that recently there was talk about rice, pyramid and all that. What I suppose is that Nigeria has taken eyes off the ball. Nigeria is an agricultural country but has really left all that. Remember the story about the palm tree and palm carnival, palm oil, the Malaysians came to Nigeria and then they took the knot and now they are the world's greatest exporter while Nigeria is still maybe becomes a net importer. So it is about policy, about governance, about being able to put your house in order. To grow what you can eat and then, you know, live, even export. Nigeria can do that. Remember the days of, they are not pyramids, you had coal in the West where you had coal building and then the palm oil that we are talking about in the East. So with all that, Nigeria is doing a cut-off. It is about system failure and policy failure that is used to be addressed to the don't have any reason to depend on anybody, not let alone Ukraine or Russia for food. So what are the foreseeable gains of the meeting today between President Buhari and the UN Secretary-General Antony Gautairas? Well, remember this is the first time the Secretary-General has visited Nigeria. He took office in 2017 and has been to a number of African countries, even to Tuku, nearby and this one, he has been to Senegal and then Niger before coming to Nigeria. What can Nigeria get from there? It's about talk and maybe promises about what the UN can do. But really, what the UN can do because of the agency, you have the World Food Program, you have all those that are affiliated to the international organization that have been helping and can also help. You have the World Health Organization. So all these are dual systems that can, and that is their role actually because belonging to these organizations means that you have to benefit from them. So it's not just so much that they're doing Nigeria a shame or any other country because you are a member and that is what you, like an umbrella that's supposed to provide you when there is rain. But what I thought is that, like the President was saying, it looks like Africa is not on the radar. Look at the kind of international mobilization that has come behind Ukraine. You wonder, what about the conflicts that have been happening in Africa? What about malaria, for instance? Malaria kills more people than all the international conflicts put together. Every hour, you know, a child under five dies or, you know, a woman with pregnancy. So, but what has happened? The world has not even as much as come with a vaccine that can really be what you can use, the bullet, same bullet that you can use to stop this deadly disease. But when it was COVID, you know, everybody is rushing within one year or so, they were able to come up with a vaccine. So Africa, but you don't really have to blame the outsiders. I think most of it is about leadership in Africa. African leaders, Africa is not zero poor and can turn for itself, can feed itself. But what are some good leaders that are not, that are taking their eyes off the board, they are selfish, they are, you know, corrupt, they are, you know, friendly, not to themselves and their family and their friends and their religious groups, instead of taking care of the collective. All the money that Africa makes, all the, you talk about corruption, what they, they will do house some of this money abroad, outside. And then, you know, then go outside there to enjoy the money. I mean, how can the people behave that with maybe it's a case of some mental problem that Africa has. Africa has a lot, more than it has enough to feed itself and then take care of all its needs. But once you have conflict here and there, five African countries are being governed by and then terrorism is there, you know, and then, you know, if one conflict or the other disease, you know, the conflict was, that is what Africa has become known for, which is unfortunate. Is Nigeria doing enough to pull its supply weight in the global community, would you say? We must. Is Nigeria doing enough to pull its supply weight in the global community? Well, I think that was the, you know, the answer is there. But, you know, in the end, the country used to play a major part in the past, when it was, you know, using the oil, the petroleum dollar, oil dollar to, to effect and dissent international relations, making sure that many countries in Africa, all their independence, countries like Zimbabwe, Namibia, even in South Africa, Nigeria was instrumental to bringing it, you know, to bringing it to an end. But what has happened today, even at the ECOAS, look at the ECOAS level, I think Nigeria should do more to bring its weight. And it can't be about potential. Nigeria has always been described as a country with great potential. But potentials cannot translate by themselves into greatness. You need to, you need to make it work. You need to work. Please do subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates.