 You're too restless to a restless writing books to a restless launching European movements with Yanis Varoufakis I think we keep you on two feet otherwise you're going to launch a couple more things just tonight and Instead we to launch just one thing which is the transparency campaign that DM is going to begin It's campaigning Korea with but first let's go help me out Transparency is a word that is not always very clear One minute. What is transparency? This is not really true. I mean transparent to say it in one minute, but let's try Let me start with a picture About the world in which we live today It is a world which was described even before old Huxley and George Orwell the famous dystopian science fiction novels in 1921 you have a novel which is called we by a Russian novelist who is called Evgeny Zamyatin And he mentions a world Where all the houses of the people who live in the world? The walls are out of glass and everything is transparent. They have only one hour per day to have sex Except there is one one condition. They have to registrate the time for the sex and the partner for the sex This was the first novel in the Soviet Empire which was censored even 10 years before the Stalinist purges started And I think we live in such a role today already Except that we don't even have this one hour of privacy anymore big companies from Google Microsoft and so on Succeeded to bring us into our surveillance Society so what we can see on the one hand is that all our lives are completely transparent But on the other hand the decisions about our lives are not transparent Let me give you just two short examples Which will bring us into the campaign and into the reason why this is the first campaign of dm That's my question. Okay, but my questions. Let me give you just two examples You didn't give me a chance to sit down. So I'm sorry first example several weeks ago the European European Council met in Brussels and They were discussing among other things the UK referendum and the refugee crisis Did we follow it? Did we have a live stream on that? No, but you see what's happening with the refugee crisis today second example Mr. Yanker said we have nothing to hide However, on the other hand the biggest secret agreement in recent human history the three of irad of free secret agreements TTIP Tisa and TPP is Being negotiated behind closed doors 52 states will form a new economic bloc which Hillary Clinton probably the next president of US called the economic NATO These secret agreements will completely change our daily lives from internet to intellectual property medicine Corporations we have will have the opportunity to sue countries such as Italy Croatia and so on and We didn't have any chance to see the secret agreements only thanks to WikiLeaks And to someone who will be soon here. This is Julian Assange We had a glance into these secret agreements and let me just end because I think we have to speak about Brussels today here first Yes, we have to condemn terrorism everywhere But there are two things which will happen after Brussels. I think the first thing is our lives will become even more transparent and The second I think what we can expect in the European Union in the months to follow is something what happened after 9-11 in US and this is the Patriotech. I think what we will have in Europe is a new Patriotech on European level And it is not my chance that after Paris Paris was the first moment after Paris the former boss of CIA Said that people such as Edward Snowden people such as Julian Assange have blood on their hands Why do they have blood on their hands because they were the people who were revealing the secret agreements There are the ones who were revealing the secrets of the centuries of power and those people now are in Moscow Or in the Ecuadorian embassy for four years. Is this the future society where we want to live in? I think no and this is the one of the reasons why DM is starting the campaign Thank you. Thank you, Zdechko and on the team of TTIP. I think we've got Katia telling us Something Katia keeping was on the stage in Berlin on the 9th of February She was one of the people who at the very beginning expressed her in her enthusiasm To join and support DM and to take it forward and here is Katia for you gerade mit Blick auf die TTIP Dokumente In Berlin gibt es ja jetzt ein Lese Raum für Abgeordnete für die Dokumente des TTIP Und als ich da rein wollte musste ich unterschreiben dass ich nichts sage über das was ich dort lese Ich habe mich gefragt wer hat eigentlich diese Verhandlungsgruppen von seiten der EU und der USA legitimiert Ich erinnere mich an keiner wahl wo man ihnen das recht gegeben hat über unsere köpfe hinweg zu entscheiden Nun musste ich unterschreiben nichts zu sagen was ich gelesen habe also kann ich nur darüber sprechen was ich nicht gelesen habe Ich habe in diesem TTIP lese raum Kein vorschlag für mehr verbraucherschutz gelesen ich habe kein vorschlag für besseren schutz von Beschäftigten gelesen und kein vorschlag für mehr umweltschutz oder mehr demokratische Demokratie gelesen die geheimnis kremerei ist Entlarvend denn wer vor hat ein abkommen für mehr demokratie mehr verbraucherschutz mehr umweltschutz zu treffen Der muss das licht der öffentlichkeit eben nicht scheuen insofern haben mich meine erfahrung im TTIP lese raumbaren bestärkt Abkommen wie das TTIP und visita sind zu stoppen und es braucht transparenz Democracy needs transparency. Let's fight for it Julian As Somebody said they're talking about TTIP If there was no need to keep it secret They wouldn't keep it secret So it's true and correct what Katja said. Why do we need to keep secret all the documents pertaining to TTIP? Julian is the same in Berlin and so on But let's go to build up on what Katja was saying while we wait for the connection with Julian to be established as you can imagine It is not the most straightforward Skype call to make Why do you think that? Negotiations with TTIP are being kept secret Why I think what is happening with TTIP is something which would worry all of us What they are trying to do is that I mean if you take into into consideration the bigger geopolitical picture What US is trying to do? They were always fighting about against Euro Asian integration So the problem is that China and Russia are already cooperating On two two fields the first field is the new Silk Road, which will make the possibility Realistic and possible that cheap Chinese goods will come from Beijing to Hamburg in two or three days and the second one is energetic deals So this is the biggest fear of the US and this is the reason why US is now trying to integrate the European Union in something Which Hillary Clinton calls the new economic NATO and I think this should worry us not only because there is no transparency But because the institutions of the European Union are not functioning So when the European Council when the European Parliament met several weeks ago They got an agreement between the European Commission and the US and the lobbies from the biggest corporations in the world And you know the situation was that the European Parliament Only the only thing they have to do and they can too is to agree on something which was already agreed So what TTIP shows is a perfect example that the democratic institutions of Europe are not functioning And while we wait for the connection with Julian to be established. Let's get a bit ahead of ourselves DM is launching its first campaign on transparency And after a science we will see exactly how it's going to work and we will invite everyone to start signing this petition But tell us a little bit more what's in this petition What is it that DM is going to be asking for concretely through it? So we have several main requests One of the main requests is that all meetings of the Eurogroup of Ecofinn and of the European Council will be live streamed Today on television you can watch the big brother and it's live streamed today on television But you know is big brother so important for our daily lives Today you can even see this it's live streamed It is such is it such a big problem to have a live streaming today in the 21st century Our second demand is that all these meetings including the meetings of the European Central Bank Have transcripts released several weeks after the meetings and then also Minutes before the transcripts Our next request is that we have a register of more than 10,000 lobbies in Brussels who are deciding our lives And our third request is that immediately all the parts of TTIP will be public And they invite you all to join it and we will explain it later how you can join Can I get an update on the connection with Julian? Shall I see what's happening? Ah, he's coming Julian Julian good evening and welcome here. It is extraordinarily Firstly, we don't hear you. We need to fix the sound While we try to raise the sound I should say speaking about TTIP that the only reason why we know something about the negotiations of TTIP is because of the documents that WikiLeaks provided us with Julian Yeah, can you hear me? Oh, perfectly Well, I was last in Rome in 2009 But alas have not had the opportunity to be there since I suppose this is next best thing Some sort of dystopian future that if we don't do our jobs, right? We might all end up in Julian Tell us why you're behind this campaign on transparency and tell us why this is the issue to begin a movement for democracy With and then I will leave you to exchange a couple of words with Zereczko Who has had the great chance of bringing you close to us? great chance the great Honor and fun Well, look, let's understand what the basics of democracy is It's All of us together Collectively carrying our knowledge about our environment and our will To change it in particular ways and to oppose change in other ways now that requires knowledge of what the Circumstance we find ourselves in and it requires an ability to communicate with each other so The transparency of our environment Is coupled together with freedom of expression in a very close relationship? They are mirror images of each other And we value them Not because we're concerned with borrowing process words Like transparency But because it is what makes us human to understand our environment to share that understanding and To develop a will together to make a better environment the problem we're seeing in Europe right now is There is a decreasing political will for the European Union to exist at all so Presently the European Union is doomed It has got to either transform democratize or it will dissolve entirely and That would be a great shame for Europe. It will bring in fact possibly quite serious poverty and calamity on some parts of Europe, but it is a Significant problem for other people in the world Presently if we look at states in Africa, what are their choices? They can choose to deal with broadly speaking the United States as a legal and geopolitical and trade entity or they can choose to deal with China Now there's other players as well, but they exist in the gaps between these two That's not enough of a choice for people around the world in the post-war period Europe Established at an ideological level Some things that we find to be valuable Concerned for each other how to resolve disputes and conflicts and yes, of course, they took place umbrella of NATO and in a post-war period and to some extent We're artificial. I think these are very important things to be held on to and if we're not able to generate the correct political will to do so They will simply disappear and we'll be left with Only big power politics Now why is the will for the European Union to exist In a state of collapse it is because there is a fundamental democratic deficit in the European Union That deficit arises in two places number one it arises from a failure to be transparent How can people support or oppose what key power institutions in the European Union are doing If their activities and how they come to their decisions Is opaque people cannot choose to support it And then secondly Even if the European Union in areas Gains more transparency How is the political how does the political feedback? operate is their mechanisms For people European for peoples across Europe to express their support or opposition To what is going on everyone can see by the decisions of the European Union by its failure to deal with the eurozone crisis by its failure to deal with terrorism within Europe by its failure to Fairly and in a unified manner deal with the problems of migration The the European Union is not acting to address the concerns of people in Europe So of course that results in decreasing political will for the existence of the European Union Now we're seeing that in many different ways on the left on the pop in the populist right even to some degree Amongst certain establishments that exists for example in the United Kingdom if European Union can't be transparent and Responsive to the democratic concerns of its people it loses political will and It simply loses the ability to act Now I want to go back to Brussels Now I had family in Paris This it is a Islamic terrorism and some other forms of terrorism Our reality to a small amount of people in time-to-time in Europe, but it could grow larger Parasitizing on the back of that is a security response and Preco is absolutely right that we can expect and we have already seen at a national level in the United Kingdom and in France European versions of the Patriot Act that will Fundamentally undermine those things which make Europe as a ideological construct something that is worth supporting Now that didn't come from nowhere It came Islamic terrorism in Europe didn't came come from nowhere. It came as a result of fundamental weaknesses in the unity and coherence of the European Union which permitted individual member states to engage In crazed adventurism in the Middle East for a variety of reasons Unilateral adventurism. So yes, the United Kingdom was a central component of that with the United States But also France also Italy Now we've just recently released 32,000 of Hillary Clinton's emails and you can read all about the UK and France's and the Italian energy company and I's involvement in Libya where it says nakedly but Cameron and Sarkozy In exchange for their part in the war against Libya wanted more than 35% of Libya's oil That is not something that the majority of European citizens would support a war for oil They wouldn't support it because most people are decent people. They wouldn't support it because Some people understand that if you bring war in terrorism To another country war in terrorism and come back to you the sorts of terrorist attacks that we saw in Paris that we saw in Brussels similar death counts caused by terrorism caused by Western arms and bombs Have been suffered by the peoples of Iraq Syria and Libya Since 2003 that kind of violence happening almost every day So you can imagine The changes in the structures to those societies Having though that kind of suffering to them That has produced not only that it that has provided fuel for the construct construction of a Political and ideological swamp filled with hatred and revenge And Europe is suffering the consequences as a result so I think we Must understand that when The European Union lacks coherence in relation to its foreign policy concerns when individual member states effectively run off with US geopolitical ambitions the result is terrorism within Europe The result is mass migration flows within Europe It was obvious that this was going to happen. I was speaking about this and many others at the time that it was happening In 2011 and beyond and many people on the left and some On the popular right. We're speaking about it at the time of the Iraq war this Strategic blunder from a European perspective would come to haunt Europe and it has Okay, so Going on to Another major strategic blunder. Yes, it is unfair. Yes, it is Unjust and ideological but more than that It is something that it's not even within even beneficial to Much of the ruling classes I think ultimately in Europe and that is Entering into the TTIP in the way that it is presently productive The United States seeing the rise of China understands that it May lose some dominance in the South Pacific and in Eurasia. It has been concerned for a very long time about the possible integration of Eurasia the United States as a strategic concept is an integrated landmass one currency one language one people from a white Christian perspective and as a result it is a Natural superpower The only possible rivals for that The European Union and China and the integration of Eurasia, so let's let's look at it Why does Europe not have a foreign policy that can project? The best of its values making agreements with people enforcing genuine human rights Europe has the European Union has five hundred and eight million people it has a GDP significantly larger in the United States and significantly larger than China Why is it always in a position? where it is following The US lead it is it is in a position where it can do much better for itself and for the rest of the world the TTIP part of three agreements which have geopolitical ambitions to Ring China now, that's the TPP which involves the US and Asian states The TISA which involves 52 states and the transatlantic agreement between United States and Europe the TTIP That's more than two-thirds of Global GDP bound up in these agreements Now that puts Europe on a that Constructs a new economic Legal and to a degree military bloc to face off With China is that something? That the people have Europe have all bought into the construction as Hillary Clinton says of a new economic nature Or as Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said late last year a A new aircraft carrier for the Engagement in the Asia Pacific. I don't think that that's something that the European people agree to and the Form in which it's proposed it is not something they can agree to because there is no transparency in it So TM has produced a demand of the Commission Which is on the or should shortly be on the website? and I want to Briefly go through that demand Julian I need to ask you one minute To wrap this up. Okay That's the nasty job I've got here Julian The TTIP is not immediate trade treaty but a new economic and legal order which creates permanent obligations on the member states to dramatically alter their own laws The TTIP draws within its ambit laws governing labor work conditions health and safety food safety Transportation's infrastructure postal services Wildlife environmental protections intellectual property, which is everything that we do over the internet Data governance and financial services regulation. So this is an ideological project Which restructures the economic and legal basis for all people? within the European Union It locks it in in the form of a treaty so you can forget about any kind of National-level politics. Do you want more of a social democratic state? Do you want more of an anarcho capitalist state? Do you want? more of a socialist state or any other variation you can forget about that once the TTIP IP is passed in the versions that are proposed Those political questions are at an end So the demands are I won't go through them all But we're going to petition text in Just one minute. So you can be extremely concise in giving us the bulk of them. Okay, so there's about six points first of all The release of the text as they're negotiated after each round This is done with other serious agreements are not small ones But other serious agreements it has done the rest of the world and it can be done with the An immediate end to DG trade That's the body of the European Commission responsible for negotiating this agreement to engaging in Collidicized efforts to promote the TTIP before the text is even finalized It's not the Commission's role to be promoting the agreement to a trade Agreement where we don't even know what it is That's a political function. DG trade's responsibility is to negotiate agreements not to push and Propagand rise the public into agreeing to them afterwards Immediate changes to the procedure of the European Parliament to give it the chance to review the chapters after each Successful round of negotiation it at the moment. It's take it at all or leave it at all and many Genuine trade issues are ending up into the TTIP acting as a coercive ratchet to prevent People from blocking it because of the other measures that are in the TTIP, which many people think should be opposed and The immediate suspension of all TTIP negotiations with the United States Until it agrees to the same or Closely similar standards to those proposed to these demands. Why is that necessary? Well, it's a brotherly act to the people of the United States. However, there's something key for people within the European Union The European Union has released some material not the key negotiated text but proposals the United States has not So what has been happening is the European Union has been laundering the most controversial most controversial proposals Into the US you make that proposal in your material because you're not making any of that public and some of ours We have to make public that has got to come to an end Julian, thank you so very much for being here tonight And if I if I may let me just that that I really hope that next time Julian will come to Rome very soon