 Hello wiki tree and we've got Steve Harris here Good morning, Steve. I'm doing great. How are you? good good Have a little bit of a different locale here for my videoing this morning. We have a We have somebody coming in to check our AC and I don't didn't want the dogs to interrupt everybody's familiar with my dogs, so So we have a different look for the day I See Mindy's here. We've got a lesh in here and it's several other visitors from what sounds like all over at least our country And of course a lesh is is over in Europe, so that's nice today What's up miss Liz? Yes So today we're gonna be talking about projects Which is really cool because we have a broad range of projects We're gonna cover what a project is What they do how to join them and a number of other things that Steve has packaged up for us, so Should we get started Steve you want to just jump right in got anything else you want to share before we get going I'm ready to go Well, let's start out with can you just tell us what a project is on wiki tree? So at the most basic level Projects are a group of members who are organized around a specific topic or volunteer activity The projects make it easier for members who are interested in the same profiles or types of volunteer work To find each other communicate and better coordinate their efforts great So we have main projects which are like umbrellas I guess and then we have Projects that fall under that and then we have sub projects and all of that Distinguishment do you want to kind of define those for us? Right? So we kind of have three types of projects top-level projects sub projects and free space projects Actually have a little slide I can share nice All right, hopefully that's showing up. So the first one are our top-level projects These are really the most formal projects on wiki tree and These will have at a minimum, you know two project leaders a project to count a project box for managing their profiles They're also going to have at least five or more active members usually much much more than this, right? Project page which is in the project namespace a tag that members follow And even a unique badge that is issued to members of that project From there we have sub projects. They're very similar to top-level projects, but they're less formal So they're usually more focused in their scope at times breaking down a top-level project into kind of like a smaller focus area They can contain a lot of Or some or even all of the different elements of a top-level project, but they're not actually required One exception that we'll really see on sub projects is for member badges So not all sub projects will have a unique badge for their members And instead they're going to rely on the badge of their top-level project So as an example in the United States project as an umbrella for all of the individual state projects US black heritage southern colonies They all have their badges. So there's a little bit of exceptions to the rules Even though they're considered sub projects of the United States top-level. So again, they're they're a lot less formal That the badge thing kind of happened because of the evolution of our projects Isn't that right like some of these were kind of they had a project or a badge at the beginning But then we had to do some reorganizing to help things make more sense Right. Absolutely. Am I right? As projects have grown We kind of have a limited space for the amount of badges that we're able to create an issue, right? There's always some type of limitation there And what we're also starting to find is some of the newer projects as they were coming up Fit well with another project. So instead of having Two separate projects with different members working on very similar profiles It's why not everybody coordinate together? Right. So if you're a member of a sub project, you're in a roundabout way a member of that top-level project as well Especially if the sub project is relying on that top-level badge Cool. Okay The next one And probably kind of confusing for a lot of people are free space projects These are the least formal of all the project types They're essentially whatever you want them to be. They're easy to start. They're easy to set up And they could be for really anything it could be a long-term project that you know Eventually will bring a lot of traction a lot of members Or it can even be like one of the one-off projects that has kind of a defined start and end date And then later on just becomes like a compiled resource page as an example Um So I mean there's a lot of options with them So like sub projects, they're not going to have member badges, right? It's going to anybody's badge It's going to rely on either a sub project or a top-level project that it may logically fall under But they might have a sticker Right. Yeah, there's definitely stickers that we can use for those. Yeah Um and some examples of those free space projects are going to include like one name and one place studies Which fall under the one name and one place studies projects uh cemetery pages Descendant groups um dna research pages and even project teams cool So what happens if somebody starts a free space project and it turns out to go gangbusters and it starts growing and growing Oh, actually Mindy and I had the same question at the same time Yes, can it can it morph into a more formal project? Yeah, absolutely. Um, so a lot of ideas are going to start at the kind of free space Level that's where you can really try to define what your goals are what your tasks are what you're trying to accomplish Um and then later on like we said as the membership grows or interest grows in that project It's time to kind of move it up the ranks so to speak so Um initially when a free space project is created Um, it's housed into a new projects category Which is something that a1 used to monitor that i'm monitoring now And as these new free space projects are popping up I'll kind of reach out to leaders that may have an interest in that topic So they can see about maybe absorbing that into their project as maybe a team or you know Just a you know sub project or something of that nature. So they can definitely move up the ranks now All the way to top level project It's possible. Maybe not as likely Just because we have a lot of top level projects now. They're they're pretty formal You know, but you know if there was a country breakout for example I think we have an asia project now But if they were wanting to do specific countries and we had enough members and leaders to support that Then it could become a top level project Okay, cool And I hope everybody who's watching right now knows you can ask questions and we'll we'll get to them as we go along here So feel free to chime in Yeah, absolutely So we've got a ton of different kinds of projects on wiki tree Can you categorize for us and tell us what types are available right now? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um The main This is going to be another confusing part for a lot of people. There's two main divisions of projects or what I call divisions Those are going to be projects which manage profiles such as geographical and topical projects and those who do not manage profiles Those are going to be functional projects or people who are working on a specific You know activity on wiki tree not necessarily that they're working on Profiles themselves Have a little breakdown for that as well So the first one is geographical projects These are focused on a specific geographical area or maybe even a specific country So for example, we have projects for England, Italy, the united states Right, everybody's familiar with those but we also have a few projects like salavic routes that cover the share Countries of Croatia, the Czech Republic, Poland, etc And all of these projects will be managing profiles at some point within their organization Next one are topical projects. They're focused on a specific topic or theme So these are generally more global in nature not always restricted to a specific geographical area, although they could be Um, or they're very highly focused to certain types of profiles events or time periods So for example, some of our top levels notables the mayflower project the dna project magna carta military and war, etc Right. Um, and again, they're all going to be working on managing profiles at some point in time. Okay And then last certainly not least are our functional projects So these are projects that focus on doing a certain type of activity on Wiki tree rather than focusing on a specific group of people Okay, so these are members like our greeters and rangers the mentors mediators moderators data doctors the templates team You know things that nature they're working but kind of behind the scenes so to speak to make sure That the tree can be the best that it can be Right I have a question for you. Okay. So, um We talk about projects managing profiles. So what does that mean? What what does it mean when they manage a profile? Why would they manage a profile? And does that mean that nobody else can work on that profile? No, absolutely not. Okay, so The basic concept is the further that we go back in time. We're going to run into a lot of shared ancestors You know these ancestors from pre 1700 pre 1500 could have hundreds or thousands or much more descendants So there's going to be a lot of interest as people start to build back in your tree What the project is doing is kind of taking Responsibility to help that profile and help all the descendants who may be interested in it So instead of someone just being able to jump in and make changes For a widely shared ancestor or maybe even one of the famous notables We have what's called ppp or project protected profiles where a project can protect it To make sure that it stays as safe as possible Now anybody can still contribute to the profiles in a number of ways. They can work directly with the project They can leave comment profiles or um profile comments. Excuse me. Got that backwards So they can collaborate with everybody make sure they have all their facts and sources straight Before they start jumping in and making changes like removing a parent Right things that nature So um, if somebody wants to work on a managed profile Um, they're actually probably going to be working with the whole project membership because the project Overseas that right right absolutely. Um And so that's kind of like having a group resource that available to them. Yeah, absolutely One of the great things about wiki tree and having this collaborative genealogy is that everybody has an expertise in different areas And when you start to put all of that together find all these additional resources ideas and you know knowledge and that's all shared together You know, there's some really great things that can come of it. Um I mean look at our tree now and how it's expanding, right? Obviously, that's all due to these members who are working together trying to make all the profiles be the best that they possibly can be right Um, and mendee has a good question She wants to know what's the best way to reach a project and to collaborate with them or to collaborate on a single profile There's quite a few different ways the one that I suggest myself is directly through g to g So each project is going to have that unique tag, you know that we talked about And most if not all the members of the projects are going to be following those tags So if you're wanting to reach out to the canada project, for example, you would tag a g to g post with canada And you know, that's going to grab their attention. It's going to come in their email feeds You know and for those who are just monitoring g to g all day long Looking to help other people, you know, they're going to be able to find those posts and be able to help them out Right and of course you can always go to the project page and find out who the leaders are or Um, do we or look at the badge feed? For that, absolutely. So yeah, there's there's definitely the badge feeds that we can look at to see who all may be a member Um, besides g to g. I would probably say the project page itself A lot of projects have information about how to contact them The leaders will be listed the project coordinators will be listed There may be teams that specialize in certain areas And if a profile or a question that you have relates to one of those teams You can reach out to a team leader or members of that team to get assistance So how do the How do the the members of the project communicate with each other generally besides some of them go through g to g others use Some of them use g to g um, a lot of them a lot of projects use google groups So they have um project accounts set up as an email list Where everybody can communicate if anybody sends an email to that group It's filtered out to everyone so they can all communicate back and forth It's a great place for leaders and project coordinators to send out information to the group On tasks that they may need help with challenges that they're working on for the month Or for members just to ask questions Um Not all projects, but some projects do have kind of an open google group where anybody can post to it whether they're a member or not Um, that's typically stated on their project page. They'll have a link and you can just email To that google group and the members can respond to you in that fashion as well okay And then if you if we wanted to find Maybe you're going to get to this later, but um How would you find a project if I wanted to go find the magna card or project for example Since I see liz is out here talking about that. Um, where would I go to find it? The the best page to look for that will be help projects So that'll give you a listing of all of the main top level projects and in some cases sub projects Let me see I could pull up my screen. I think you want the find menu Find projects not help projects, right? Well, the the page itself is help projects, um, but it's through the find a menu So if you go to okay, oh, I got what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, it's an help yeah, sorry Now I'm confusing everybody. Yeah Yeah, so you can always get to the project list through the find menu Correct through the find menu and it'll just say projects and it'll take you to the help page for projects for projects Gotcha. Gotcha Right and again, it'll it'll it'll break them down into those geographical topical functional. So they're kind of easier to find Okay Yeah, it's a great list that we have out there. It shows um You know project leaders and some of the sub projects that are associated with top levels and Pretty cool So we with projects we have project leaders And what did they do what your project leaders do and are they the only ones that are allowed to lead a project? Absolutely not. That's a good question This is another one of the topics that you know, there may be a lot of confusion on what I When I talk about project leadership, I'm talking about the entire project as a whole no matter what role You may actually be holding Um, I can share my screen again. Let me Get here. So we'll just kind of start off with let's say the project leaders um This is what a lot of people See and think of when we say the term leadership, but this is literally a role that is called project leader Um, they have kind of special powers and ongoing Responsibility as a role on the wiki tree website So they're able to do certain things such as add and remove project badges for members Add and remove the ppp status that we talked about for managed profiles Um, they also help to deliberate on pre 1500 certification requests um pre 1700 certification request as needed And they're also required to serve as a ranger, a mediator, a moderator or a mentor So this helps them kind to give back to the community as well, right? So leader really means that you are helping to lead So this is another way that they're able to give back outside of their own project Now within the project scope itself Leaders are Primarily responsible for the overall project Making sure that there are you know defined goals that there are tasks that can that will help members to contribute to those goals um You know just kind of overall steering the ship right Next we have project coordinators And project coordinators no matter The terms used they actually help lead projects They just don't have the formal project leader status or role on wiki tree So they'll have the project coordinator badge But with that they also have a couple of options available to them So they're able to answer questions from those who are interested in the project They help monitor the project's g to g tag that we talked about earlier So if you had a question you reach out to them these project coordinators going to be monitoring that Trying to make sure that they help everybody who has questions They provide information back up to the project leaders as necessary So making recommendations for improvement or if a member has an issue or a question You know that they can't answer they filter that back up to the project leaders who have a little more resources available to them And with the project coordinator badge they can also edit parents spouses children On project protected profiles and they can also use gedcoms to Or gedcoms however you want to say it to edit project protected profiles Okay, cool And then last But certainly not least are team leaders. So team leaders are kind of a new development in the project space It's only been around for a couple of years um In these team leaders will help lead specific project teams And help coordinate members on those teams, right? So they don't have any special Abilities on wiki tree, but they do play a vital role in helping their projects So they're working with the project leaders and the coordinators, you know on a Weekly or daily basis to formulate what the goals are for their teams and send out tasks to help drive their team towards meeting those goals um And they also help to identify like future team leaders as an example that may be able to step up You know and help out. So again when we talk about leadership, we're talking about Really all of those kind of members of a project the leaders the coordinators and the team leaders all together form The leadership team. They're all kind of responsible for specific actions and areas within that project Gotcha And and they're all critical roles because they all do a little something different. Oh, absolutely Absolutely, especially when you start getting into some of the larger larger projects that have hundreds of members You know, if you have a project that may only have two leaders It's hard for two people to you know, really help a project that has hundreds and hundreds of members So by having project coordinators and team leaders, you're able to divide Your main group your project into smaller projects where everybody can communicate with each other Well, that kind of goes along with the question Liz just asked She said when are the groups that fit under a top project considered sub projects? And when would they be termed a team? So the difference between a team and a sub project, right? So there is a little bit of flexibility between teams and sub projects. So teams Are generally kind of smaller in nature. Maybe I don't want to throw out any hard numbers But let's just say, you know, 10 to 15 members who are working on a specific type of task A sub project is going to be a little more formal than that They're going to have a little more formal structure and the sub project may have their own teams as well But when we start getting into the sub project level, that's when they're going to have an actual page in the project namespace They're going to have Coordinators and leaders who are trying to help drive that project forward in addition to any 10 leaders that they may have And some some projects like we said depending on how they're growing how they're managing profiles They may also Now have their own project account and project badge. So again, it's just depending on how much the project go Grows and it's really kind of up to the discretion of the projects and that's something that I can help assist them with You know, is it so expand? So a sub project would be focused around a particular topic Whereas a team is probably more focused around a task That helps the sub project or the top level project accomplish something. Is that right? Can you give an example of what a team would do? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um I three main examples so There's quite a few projects that will have like a membership or onboarding team And those are people who are specifically focused on helping new members to the project Get acquainted with everything that's going on learn about the goals learn about the tasks Maybe help get them situated into The google groups or maybe the discord server so they can do live chats Help them with moving through an orphan trail as an example like the england project does other teams may be focused on a specific activity such as the database suggestions making sure that all profiles are Clean and free of errors or that any suggestions on those profiles have been taken care of while other teams may be focused onto a specific Topic like the notables of whatever Okay, and I think I'm aware of Um, shoot. I can't remember which team which uh project does this but they have like a Or maybe a number of them do have like a managed profiles team Yeah, so they keep they keep their eye on any correspondence or questions that come in about projects or profiles that the project manages Absolutely, so, um, that would be another I'm pretty sure, you know, we're talking about some of our larger projects like england scotland Canada that they I believe they all have Managed profiles teams. Yeah I'll ask a question here about um, can teams belong to two projects like data doctors in england and I think I I mean it's I think there's like some crossover there where data doctors is functional England is a subject but England might have a team That works as data doctors on england projects. Is that? right, um Real realistically how it works is Not all members of Let's say a england data doctors team have to be actual data doctor project members Um, their focus is more Um scoped in nature, right? So they're only working on england profiles However, there should be, you know, some collaboration and coordination between The team and the data doctors project Right, so information can be passed around if there's new suggestions that are out You know, they'll probably want to follow the data doctors tags So they get that information as it's posted to help keep them up today. So it's not really that they're Um, belonging to two different top level projects But there's a lot of interface and collaboration and communication that will be going on at those. Yeah I guess the way I look at that is that the data doctors kind of support the projects in that they're helping to, you know Alesha organizes the the suggestions for us and Makes makes the different projects aware of what needs to be corrected or worked on or Right, right. So it's kind of a support role by the data doctors in a way Absolutely So if we want to if somebody wanted to join the leadership of a project, how would they do that? And and how do you become a project leader? Who who decides that? Um So Right now, um project leaders are nominated from among the superstars of the community Those are the ones that have the superstar badge. Um, and that's a badge that's awarded by other leaders Um But having that superstar badge is, you know, only A small first step of the process. So in order to become a project leader It it's typically going to be a member who's already showing leadership in one or more projects, you know Maybe they're serving as a project coordinator They're working as a ranger or mentor, you know trying to help the community already You know, it's not something that you can just volunteer for In the sense of I want to be a project leader sign me up and You know, I want my badge. It's more of a Be active in your projects, right? Be a voice. Don't be afraid to step up and reach out to assist the leaders when they're when they need it, you know, kind of Help with those leadership tasks and you know, you'll you'll start to get right And if you want to if it's something that you're interested in You know working towards talk to the the project leader that you're working with and say, you know, what do I need to do? To reach that level of expertise Absolutely. If you're already in a project reach out to your project leaders reach out to your project coordinators um Ask them what they can do to assist how how they can work on becoming them or you can reach out to me as well you know, I Just some general pointers to help you kind of get through the process You know, the the one thing to kind of think of is you can be A great contributor to a project Or to wiki tree in general, you know, you're great at research or great at working on profiles You have expertise on a lot of areas, but if you're kind of silent and hiding in the background You're not communicating with people in g to g and offering your systems. You're not You know fully participating in the projects, you know, you could be unintentionally overlooked, right? It's definitely not intentional But with hundreds of members in a project just remember that, you know, those who kind of stand up will stand out Sure So there's different you're talking about different types of leaders. There's the project leaders. How do you become a Project coordinator for example So team leader Yep So kind of how we talked about projects earlier where we have kind of more formal and less formal project coordinators Are kind of a less formal Role on wiki tree So these are the members that again also help to lead the projects without the formal project leader status permissions ongoing requirements They're helping to coordinate members of the specific project. They're working with we want to work together on the same tasks You know, they act as the driving force behind the project itself And they are chosen by their project leaders for those projects So for example in the canada project those project leaders are You know grabbing those outstanding members of their project and moving them up to a project coordinator level Giving them some tasks that they can do and monitor on a daily basis They have a little more responsibility to right absolutely And if you're on a project that maybe doesn't have a lot of project coordinators Or you see that there's a lot of requests for help reach out to a leader You know tell them you're you're willing you're volunteering to help Or your leader may approach you again just based on your work within the project So there's no formal nominations Or review process or anything like that there is with the leaders It's if a project leader wants you as their project coordinator You're in good standing with the community then they can award you that badge cool It's it's uh, it's extra responsibility, but it's also very satisfying to be able to participate like that Yep, absolutely Now what about question? Oh, yes, she does Can project coordinators award badges? Not yet, um, we do have some kind of in the works We do have something kind of in the works for it. I won't uh, share too many details just yet But it's something we're working on You know when you're working on a project that only has two leaders and you have project coordinators or team leaders Who are helping to monitor gdg and onboard new members it becomes kind of troublesome to have to pass around You know members to different phases or different levels within the project up to a leader to go award a badge so Again, I won't share too many details, but it is something we're looking into and hopefully we'll have available Well, terra has another really good question that kind of leads into my next question She wants to create a free space page to coordinate family research on some of the family's ancestors Can you give us an example of some kind of project that would be similar to that that could help her? Kind of get that focused and organized Now you're gonna make me find one Um So I'll start with like you know if you're working on a family if you're working on like a surname You know maybe then a good place would be to start with with a one-name studies project project um So while one-name studies are more globally focused on every occurrence of that surname even if they're not related to each other um There's kind of those teams and free space projects underneath a one-name study That you can do that center around centers around a specific family Um, and then I'm gonna head over to Should I do a little dance while you're looking keep everybody I've got to get Category like a little awkward silence to help things out Yeah Though the one-name studies terra might be something that you're interested in looking into if you're looking at particular ancestor It might help you to trace that particular ancestor's paternal line Right, so that that could be a way to get started Absolutely, so I am ready. Let me get over to Share my screen Okay, so from the witch tree homepage If we go to find categories And we're gonna land on the main categories page. We have a large or a rather large category grouping family topics So you'll see a lot of kind of examples in here that cover a range Of different scopes, right? So things focusing on like family heirlooms given names Controversial pedigrees big families and again one name studies on one place studies kind of fall under that So this is a good resource to kind of look around and see what other members are doing Um, I don't have a specific page that I can show you right off of the bat. I'd have to dig through a couple of them Um, but this is a good place to really look See how others are working on Right and even the structure of the one name studies might be useful for her Could we could we take a look at one of those? Oh, yeah, absolutely. You just kind of give her an idea of what What people are putting on the page to help So let me just go to the one name studies itself I'll put us back over here But these are the stickers where So again, a lot of this is going to be specific to the one name studies itself, but this will help you kind of drive your pages here, but Looking at your main page how you're going to break it down into sections So give some information about the project what you're trying to do define your goal, right? Even if just for yourself if you're going to be the only person working on provide your goal You know, maybe allow other people's to join you if they're if they're willing to Create research pages these research pages are where all of the day-to-day operations are going to happen So this could be a specific family unit that you're working on that you can later group together, etc And then just through your research collect your data analyze it put put it all in one place You know where you can start making those connections And if you're working on a particular ancestor terra, this this could be helpful to give you some guidance on setting up your research You might want to include something like a timeline for their life Different connections in different locations that they've lived and and then we get into the one place studies Which can help you focus on you know the the parts of that family that ended up In one location and who else they they were connected to in that location There's a lot of different ideas and i'm sure you could get some help What's with from other people who've done similar things if you ask that question out in g2g? Absolutely Yeah, so Final question steve That that kind of covered a little bit of this but not entirely How do I start a project if I want to start something? What do I do? okay My recommendation is just number one start at the free space level right? We have a page that'll kind of help you walk you through some questions on You know, do you want to start it now or can you wait or does it fit within another project? My advice is go ahead and get it started at least get something documented So others can help you and see where it may fit in so from wiki tree We have our find or excuse me our admin view We're gonna do add new project So this will take you to a form that you can fill out It's very similar to creating a free space page and this will create a free space page for you But it kind of gives you an outline that you can follow name your project Add a tag that may be relevant And then you know provided description of the project. What is your goal? What are the tasks? What are you trying to do? How can people communicate with you? Again, you'll see that when this project is being created that it's automatically going to be added to the category new projects That's something that I'll be monitoring with Again, I reach out to leaders when I see these pop up and see You know This is very similar to what you may already be working on or hey This looks like it'll fit within the england project for example And I'll reach out to those that leadership team and let them know about these new free space projects So they can start collaborating with that member now. Obviously if it doesn't fall within any of that Um, a great example of one is the classic disney project Right. So the classic disney project was started. It's a simple free space page It's gained a lot of traction. They've made a lot of good progress And we were able to put that underneath the notables project Again, just where it logically fits and there's a lot of great work going on that In that classic disney project is still right now just a free space page Right, they use the free space page to do all their documentation They're using g the g to provide updates and you know attract new members and things of that nature. So yeah That was a cool idea Oh, absolutely. Um, mindy asked if there's a category for one-place studies and I'm going to say yes, there is Um, we did cover a lot of that in our one-place studies Um, livecast a couple weeks ago. So if you guys are interested it, it's in our youtube feed Right. So I just went to find categories to get on our main Category navigation here and under family. We have one-place studies And this and I think that's a complete that answers Sorry to interrupt that answers liz's question about the family topics category. That's where you just were Could you back up once and show her exactly how you got there? It is on the main category listing. So at category categories Um for again by doing find Categories, we'll take you to this page and family And again, this will have a lot of topics underneath it Things to review So if you're working on one of these family type projects Who we were talking about earlier is it may not be exactly the same It may be very similar to what others are doing again just to give you an idea of how they're going through it Um, there's even a category for family Projects that you can at least put it in to get started. So you see here. There's one for looks like the wid all family or the Heinz family project and that's a category where they're copying all their pages and information together So it's all in one place. Great It's very cool So does anybody if anybody else has any more questions chime in and we'll we'll get to those before we lose steve Do you have anything else steve that you'd like to share with us about projects? Anything popped into your head while we were chatting here not yet? I mean, you know projects and leadership is something that we could really talk for hours and hours and hours about You know, so maybe in the future we can do another live cast and go a little deeper into some of these topics You know, or if we have a bunch of questions Coming up in g2g So if you've seen the g2g post about today's live cast feel free to go there if you have any additional questions I will keep my eye on that a when I'll keep her eye on it And we'll jump in and answer questions and possibly again do another live cast and dive a little deeper into some of these topics Yeah, good plan. I did notice um denisa while back mentioned something about discord And I don't think we covered that but most of our projects have a channel on our discord server And it's just an informal way for project members to communicate with each other live So um, it's not like video live unless you want it to be but we all talk Use text chat to get out there. You might be able to ask a quick question of your project leader. Where do I find this or I'm stuck here Yep, but it's not a place where we settle policy or anything. It's just for quick help Right, right. Yeah, anything that has to do with you know, policy discussions things that nature That's always going to be in g2g, right? That's really the heart our community is in g2g discord and You know, even the google groups that just gives you another way to be able to collaborate with others the people that you are specifically tied to So we do have a wiki tree discord server That is the main server and each of the projects will have a channel There's a couple of bots that we have running in there that do various things such as automatically assigning You know permissions to see different channels and things of that nature And how would we find out how to get there steve? How would we get to the discord server to get To get connected so let's see Here yet I know the answer. I'm just being coy. So I'm navigating around but it's always going to be through help pages Yes help categories But here we are so once again, we're going to go to help help And that lands us on the main category for wiki tree help And if we just scroll down we have an entry specifically for discord And on this page you will find a lot of the information you're looking for, you know, what is it? Why are we using it? Why is it called discord? Which was not our choice, right? We did not name it. It's a yeah, it's a third party piece of software yep Very popular. It's a couple page, you know, one of the founders just said it sounds cool Yeah, so there's no real rhyme or reason to it. But there's a link Directly to the wiki tree discord server when you click on that you can sign up for an account We do have a little bit of a registration process We just ask the you know users change their name To include their wiki tree id so that we can validate them That keeps all the spammers and all that sorts of stuff out of those channels. Yep So and once you get there it takes a look at your profile when you give it your profile id And it goes out and it we have a little bot that goes out and looks at your profile and says Oh, they belong to this this and this project. So then you're assigned those roles And you'll be able to go in those channels and chat with the other project members, right? That's another one of Alessia's babies, right, you know, he's All the technical side of everything So he's got that all set up for us. We we don't have to go in and individually apply roles to people Um, the bot automatically like Julie said looks at your profile Retrieves, you know, like your badge information and adds you automatically to all the channels Yep Now while we were talking steve, we had a really good question come up What happens when our project becomes inactive? That that's a fun one so It is What we like to call, you know kind of an inactive project is is basically dormant. Um, that's where they don't have any Anybody on the leadership team There's no rule members that are working on the project itself in those cases all of the information stays there You know, it stays categorized. It's just not something that's advertised in g to g or, you know Not in the newsletter. There's nothing really going on with them Um, but again in a lot of cases even if a project that is a top level project or um A sub project, you know, even though there's not Two project leaders or maybe there's no project leaders currently as long as we have people on the leadership team Then the project will never really go inactive or go dormant as we call it as long as we have some type of leadership There who is able to help the members and that they're members who are willing to help the goals of the project Right and we have a finite number of project leaders So we might have a project that That initially had a lot of interest Um, and maybe the project leaders that were leading it had to step away from wiki tree for a period of time It happens, you know life takes over sometimes and so sometimes the The project will go leaderless, but if we've got still got project coordinators around they can help to lead Some of the aspects of the project and we'll have other people, you know Step in to help when necessary if I mean like right now our project coordinators can't give badges But if we have somebody that wants to join for example, I can't think of a dormant project right now Switzerland is Switzerland. No, they're active, right? Yep I'm not I can't think of one right now, but yeah I mean there may be a couple of those again that are leaderless one thing to remember is that we're all volunteers here Right, so They're volunteering their time in that capacity Yep, I sure got it, right Everybody on wiki tree really is a volunteer They're volunteering their time and things do happen, you know, they need to step down They'd like to go emeritus. They may come back later Or they may just not be able to devote time to A project if they're leading multiple projects and you will see that they'll have leaders that are trying to help lead Three or four projects at a time and and and again, it's it's a big toll on volunteers Well, and that's that's why we asked for people to start projects small with the free space project Right, absolutely because it and as it gathers interest then it might blossom into a bigger project Right emboss them in a bigger project. Well, not only that like I said, and if we can also Logically put those smaller projects underneath Another project then those leaders can assist with those tasks as well and they have the help that they need But for any of the projects that may be leaderless at this time and they're still active members There's still project coordinators, you know, I'm another point of contact Feel free to reach out to me if you're needing to onboard new members You'd like to give them a badge, but there's no leader available Shoot me an email. I'll be more than happy to go in and help you with any of that I can answer any questions for you Another thing that we've kind of seen in g2g Is, you know, well, can you assign a leader to my project? Right and again going back to our leaders our volunteers The one thing we don't want to do Is force anyone into a project that they're not going to be happy with they're not going to be able to Give it their full attention. They're not going to give it everything that it deserves Or they might not be comfortable with the topic. So right they may not be knowledgeable in the area and things that nature I could never serve as a leader of the england project or the candidate project It's just way out of my wheelhouse, right? So I stick to the things that i'm good with I can learn a lot from the england project if I was to become a member Um, but being able to lead that project is completely different and you'll see that a lot as well project leaders who are leading one project And they're just a member of another project You know, so even though it is a global scoped role and they have certain responsibilities and abilities that they can do Just being a project a leader alone doesn't make them, you know, the master of everything, you know, right? Well, and if we don't have leaders for a project, you know It doesn't prevent the people who are interested in that topic from collaborating together, right? Absolutely And and ultimately if you need for it to become more formalized, you know, work with work with steve He'll he'll help you find a way So, uh, midi had asked what the ratio of project leaders to members are and if I remember right we try to have one leader for Is it every thousand members? I'm not sure we're there. It's just not that easy to find it. Yeah it's You know, I I know And she has to you know, follow up with that as well. Is there a limit to the number of leaders? Um Not really Right and again since it is a volunteer position There's been a lot of you know members who have been nominated Hey, you've been nominated become a project member Would you be willing to help step up and some of them are like, you know, I do this as a hobby I really don't want to go Beyond that and I would like to just stay a member. I'll help you in whatever way that I can but I'd rather not be a project leader Um, it is a responsibility. It's a lot. It's more than just being a standard member I mean you have to you have to be part of the functional projects because Our leaders help keep keep the uh the website running right And now chris kind of brings up a good point here. He said that um, I myself was kind of the leader of the italy project before azure took over anyone assisted with that and Basically what I did is I knew the italy project needed help And I had the time and resources available to help them. So I just kind of stepped in and filled that role until You know another leader became available to really devote their attention to that project So I wasn't help drive changes or anything, but I was there to assist with the day-to-day operations Sure, some of the admin stuff. Yeah, absolutely the admin stuff that I had access to that not everybody else did Right, right All right. Well, this has been really great. I don't know. I don't if you guys have more questions Like steve said pop out to the g2g post for this video and uh Ask it out there. They'll they'll keep an eye on it because we absolutely About to the end of our allotted time here It's been a lot of fun. You guys had great questions. I hope you all feel better informed And hopefully we'll be back in another couple of weeks or so with another Really fascinating video of topics about wiki tree So thanks for coming you guys we'll see you soon All right. Bye Oh hang on I clicked the wrong button