 average age of a faller is 57, 57, you've got a 50% retirement rate that you're looking down the barrel at in the next five years. That is a, and it's $30,000 on average to get every one of those guys out in the woods before you can get them working. One of the problems we have is, you know, that's a major looming liability for you when you face down all of those retirements and try to figure out how you're going to train all those folks. Well, one of the things that we are committed to doing thanks to the work of your executive and making your voices heard, surely with the Ministry of Finance is going to lead the work with the TLA to make sure that we put in place a new system of training tax credits for on-site training for truck loggers in British Columbia so that we can reduce some of that training costs for you and make your businesses more sustainable.