 All that. You ready to get started, sound like? Nah, man. You ready? We'll start it right now. Come on. J-Win, play me some pimping, man. Come on, man. We'll start until we let the pimping play for a few minutes and warm the crowd up. Yo, I ain't in peace until I was on time today. Yeah, you definitely did that shit. Yeah, you were. You saw you. Yeah, you was on time a month. All some real niggas shit. Yo. You ain't got no hustling music out there? You gotta get some hustling music. They had ideas, man. I know you got some shit. Yo, why you didn't play that from the beginning? That's the one you shoulda came in with. Why you didn't play that from the beginning? Because I asked for some pimping. I forgot we had the hustling in there. Hold up. Don't fuck with her. Who we got in that room? We got the hustler. Who we got in that room? Oh, y'all know that. Y'all know that. Don't fuck with her. Don't fuck with her. Don't fuck with her. Bring that asset. I said don't fuck with her. Who we got in that room? We got the hustler. What you want? We got a three-five. She's like, Dime. Uh-huh. I said we. Hold up. Cross it. Yo. Dime. Okay. Yo. Okay. Yo. Okay, when you ain't got nothing to say, you just say, Okay. Yo. Okay. Yo. Okay. Yo. Ain't got nothing to say. Okay. Yo. Okay. Yo. Okay. Yo. I said, I said, I said, Don't fuck with her. Hold up. Who we got in that room? We got the hustler. Y'all know that. Ah, ah, I said, Don't fuck with her. Y'all know that. Who we got in that room? We got the hustler. Yo. What you gonna say to him? Go. Nick. You, you body in it too much, and I wanna fuck it up, man. You body in it too much, I was bobbing, and I don't know much. Andy, look at me, I'm like, Nah, I'm a bummer. Nick, you said we got the hustler. No cap. There you go. No cap. These ain't called E-A-D, just hot guys. I don't know what they eat. Chick-fil-A-Cell chicken, but the man's got a cow. Come on. I don't trust these bitches. I'm wearing a condom right now. I swear to God. Just in case something pop off, and I don't want no baby kids to get shot off. I call this bitch a babysitter. I don't know what it's anywhere in the country now. But the baby's in her throat, and now she a baby spitter. Yo. Yo. That ain't playing with her. Told her she want a relationship. Get another nigga. Oh, a nigga. Cause I'm the nigga on the side. Don't call me when you got something where to go. Call me when you need a ride. Yeah. This is deeper than rap. If you want me to tell you what I mean, I'm just going to explain it like that. Yeah. See, don't hit me when you need four ties. Yeah. Just hit me when you need a little ale on the side. Yeah. Don't call me when you need a refrigerator full. Yeah. Call me when you want a sandwich and a red bull. Yeah. Cause I don't give no fucks. I'm not going to be stopping every day to go and get you Starbucks. Yeah. No. Cause I'm just that nigga. Come by. Can't get smoke a couple of blunts with you. Oh. Hey. And we don't never take no pensions. Okay. And if you see me. Hey, your kids call me Mr. No. No. Cause it's all about respect. And when you asked for that little money, I gave you cash and not a check. Yo, check. And I be spending straight facts. Right. I gave her cash money. No cash out. Right. She tried to act like a nigga didn't really do that. Okay. And I don't want to get too, you know. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Man, when I talk about money. Yeah. See, niggas laugh. I'm on their ass because it ain't really funny. Yeah. See, people get that paper and don't even want to call you back. No. They don't want to pay you back. And they be like, I'll call you back. Yeah. That's that bullshit. Bullshit. And I don't play with it. Play with it. I pull that bitch house just to see who she staying with. Yeah. I'm going to kill you. Yeah. Who's name is on the bills? Yeah. I go act like I'm shit and read the names on the bills. Yeah. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Like this. Yes. Yes. The one sitting in the bathroom. And who you get it from? Come on. And they ain't got shit to do with nothing. Welcome back to the 8 5 South Joe. Listen. You know I always have to go look and see where we fall in the rankings of great shit. What we do, man? Come on, man. The 85 self-show is rated higher than that week that they played all the Roots movies. You know when they played a whole Roots all the way through that week on TV? Yeah. We tested higher than that week. Yes, we did. I think that week was what started Black History Month. Come on, man. Lean bushing. Come on, man. He said, come on, man. Come on, man. We doing great shit every week and don't nobody want to even talk about it. Coontan and them niggas. Coontan and them niggas? They kept it flip. What was the lady that I couldn't remember her name? Who that? You saw my LeVar Burton? Then they had the Chicken George. Chicken George. They had Bushkin, who saw it. Yeah, Lou Gosse, Jr. was Chicken George. No, that was all the dude. Y'all see it talk about Roots. The singing dude. Singing dude? We saw it. He ain't see it. Game of the ring with Chicken George. He wasn't a singer. He was a... Then Reims. I think I ain't seen it in the Roots. I only seen it in the third floor. Lou Gosse, Jr. played the fiddle. Okay, yeah. And then some kind of way, that shit went from LeVar Burton to the daddy from Goodtown. He got older and turned into, yeah, he turned into James. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He did. You ever read a rainbow at the Goodtown? On the same network. Oh, and commercial break. You came back with commercial, this nigga was old and grown. The fuck happened to Coulter? What's James doing here? I never believed that James looked the master's ass. What? James looked the master's ass. What, they got James it up? James got it there and whoop. That's why I could never see him as just James F. Right, it was Coulter Ken Tay too. But that ain't got nothing to do with none of this shit, man. We've been on a fucking streak over here and we've been bringing all the ghetto legends. Who we got the ghetto legends? I mean, same thing. It's just one of them ones that had to be, it had to be hate. Man, he ain't talking no money, man. Get the fuck away from me, man. We only bringing ghetto legends, hustlers. Come on, man. People who made something out of nothing. Come on, man. The best dancers, the best rappers, the best everything. Right. If we say ghetto legends, that mean like, you forever gonna have your name on the fucking hall of fame of ghetto shit, pantheon. God bring the best strippers. Come on, see that's why you up there. You always got the best fucking add-ons and ideas. But you were in the game, still in the game when the shit was actually good to be in. And he said he had the number one, the first platinum ringtone. You don't never run these type of accolades down and shit, isn't it? When it made all the niggas say, man, put the beat on, goddamn. You heard a nigga rap like that. What do you say about the doghouse? Mm-hmm. Right, right. None other than Cassidy. Oh, wow, you're so good. You literally sit here and do this shit all day about all the great cool shit you done did for the rap game, man. You battle rapping now, dropping music still. Still got shit, money, ice stuff, new outfit, match. That's how you know a nigga still got his money. Right. When that nigga match. Nigga, nigga match. Nigga, nigga match. Yeah, nigga match. See, most, when you ain't got shit, you wear clothes. Right. When you straight, you have outfits. Right. Yeah. No cap. Look at the women. They know there's between clothes and outfits. Then they got an outfit on. Nigga hat and blue, yeah. That's the shit you wear on the first day of school. That's what I'm gonna say right now. That's what I'm gonna say. Perfect. Your mama see you in there and be like, that's a nice outfit, son. You mentioned you in the budget, you just put on some clothes. Yeah. You just put on some clothes. That's what you wear? That's what you wear? I thought you said you was just gonna put some clothes on. You got on the outfit. I didn't know. I didn't know you were wearing an outfit. Where you going? Nah. Welcome to the trap. Right. What's good, man? I appreciate y'all for having me, man. I'm sure to hit some areas, man. Man, I appreciate it. We just being happy, you know, just making sure everything goes the way it's supposed to go. Holding it down. How's your dope story you just told, too? Word. Fuck with it. Sneaking in the bathroom, act like you're taking this shit. I'll rap or read all the pills. I'm gonna know. Yes, I will Google your medicine. I don't know what the fuck going on with you. I done did that before. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck is that sentiment on a fan? Bitch, why is your iron low? Oh, so she got the, okay. She crazed a little bit. Bitch, why is your iron low? Nah, that's all it is. What's been up, though, man? Working hard, grinding, man. That's all we ever do. Fuck grinding, man. Trying to get it right now. Put the best project together. My life, I think. Right now, we like to have them. The best app, the best project of your life? Yeah. What's the name of it? Bars is back. Ooh, people don't even know your name, Bars. Ooh. Yeah. Bars is back. I'm back in my bullshit, so. Happy with this project, man. A lot of dope shit. You inspired a lot of people, man. Hope I can play that shit for y'all, man. Let y'all hear some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the people gonna wanna hear it anyway. They see that hun trying to figure out what the hustler's finna say. So, bring us back. How it all started? Cause I know early off camera, you saying you with the rough rider. I ain't know nothing about none of that shit. I definitely had your ring. He wouldn't have said it. You know that? He wouldn't have said it. I was, cause I had a ring to him on the church. There were two young, even church. That was out, that was after. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. That was when he was 21, that was four years ago. I was damn near three. Right, same. What you want when it be sad? Good, good, I got. So bring us back like, you was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three like a mother. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Go to sleep. Hey, you can yell at him, he's starting to crack. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Your ass in that bed. I used to pee in the bed so I wouldn't lay down. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I won't go in there, it's a thanks. This nigga's crazy. That's why you skinned it. You all playing with me and some shit that just left me off. This is why your skin was fucked up all the time. Yeah, yeah. Nigga skinned. Nigga skinned just that right four months ago. Nigga gave me some exibit. Ha, ha, ha. Nigga elbow is a hard little motherfucker sleeping in there, pissing that little boy to blow you on your thing cold. His don't dry off, you think, big man? This nigga here, man. Catch him up. Tell him how this shit started out. Did I remember when you came on the rap scene with a big ass hat and a big ass T-shirt? I mean, he... I mean, everybody go ahead and know me. Me and the big ass, having the big ass T-shirt. Got damn chained, hanging down to his belly button. Big shit was in, man. I mean, the back of them old pictures like, damn, niggas were super baggage, man. We wore way too many clothes. I don't know what the fuck we thought was gonna happen. This is what, like, 0102? This nigga dumped his head, bro. I told you he fucked up, bro. Hey, man, I can't be around this nigga too long, bro. It's been too long. Oh, shit. Everybody using that bag back then. Nah, for real, the big clothes was the shit. Everybody had extra fabric, man. Tall tees, nigga. I'm talking about, instead of pointing out if you see some jeans that's too big, it just piss you off. That's what they all know to young people. They wearing the baggage shit. Nah, I think we back at the point because of the internet where we at right now. Like, anything go. It could be tight, baggy. It could be in, like, any time period right now and I mean be an individual. I think it's different right now. I don't even know what credit it is. I couldn't fuck with them big ass jeans again. I tried. I couldn't. If I was like a size 12, we're at a 34. 12? That ain't even no pants size, man. That's when I was a child. That's when I was a child. I think it wasn't even in adult pants yet. I'm like a 12, nigga, that's that. I was seven. Would you ever be at a 32? I was wearing kid clothes. All right, man. Tell them how this shit started. He won the truth. Today's episode is sponsored by Seat Geek. Hey, what's up, it's your boy DC Young Fly. 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Met Swiss Pop in the barbershop. He bought me out of New York to meet his brothers D and Y. They was the CEOs of Rough Riders. And that's how I got my first deal. Like a nine, nine. Damn. Use how old? 17. 17? Yeah. And you got your whole digits of the radio shit and really from that intro. And you just, you speak for it. The radio show is what made me get Poppola enough to meet Source Fiverr when he came through the city. Okay. He bought me out of New York. I ain't having no demo or no music done. When he introduced me to Y, I just started rapping. And I mean, Y loved me. He waited, I had to meet his brother D. D came through, I started rhyming for him. And at this time I was in a three-man group called Larsonie Family. You go back and do like, look at Rough Rider, Ryder, Di volume two, volume three. We was on there, you know what I mean? Little niggas, you know what I mean? That's how I built my relationship with Swiss being signed to Rough Riders and all that. So I was grinding with them for some years. And then I, the Swiss wanted to do his own production company, one of the artists. So he came by me. We started Four Surface Records. Got a deal with J Records, Clive Davis. And that's how we put out all the music. Like I'm a hustler and all that shit you fuck with. That's crazy, man. Tried to make it long story short, it's possible. No, you didn't. I wanted to hear more shit. I had really, I wanted to hear more of it. I wanted to hear more of it. I didn't tell. But Rough Riders was poppin' at the time, like. DMX, what? Jadikiss, this is, what? What? What's shorty, the Charlie Baltimore? What she want with y'all? Nah, sure. What's she want with? She was entertainment. She was with like, entertainment came in. I always thought she was a Rough Rider. Her demeanor was a, I always thought she was a Rough Rider. She did a lot of shit with Murder Inc. She's not feeling it though. From the same setting. Oh, okay. That's what she did it with. Murder Inc. She did it with Murder Inc. And some early, like a little, few little Rockefeller joints in the beginning. Right, right, right. I don't know why I always thought she was a Rough Rider. She was a gangster. E was Rough Rider. E was a Rough Rider. Drag-on. Drag-on. That nigga was cold. Now they had it on Smash when I was 17, when I first signed to them. They were super lit. Like X was moving heavy. The whole label was like moving. They ever, they was like the biggest thing around. So I was like happy to- It's one of your favorite DMX story. DMX? Yeah. The time when we did the BET Cypher, it was like when they first started, like having niggas rap on the BET Awards and shit. And there was me, DMX, Eve, and Murder Moop. And we had like a Cypher. So it was dope. I ain't never did- Battle Rapper Murder Moop? Yeah, cause he was down with Rough Riders at one time too. So we was all representing like Rough Riders. X, Eve, me, and Moop. And it was like a Cypher. We was all around me. Moop went first. I went second. Then Eve went, then X went. That's hard. That's hard. Yeah, but that was a memorable moment cause I never did no records with X. Like even though I was on Rough Riders for that period of time, he was super lit. We never did no records together. So that was like the closest thing of like me having some edge in the stone that I did with him in that BET Cypher show. Okay. Eve out there doing billionaires shit now. What? Yeah. Cause she got a whole ass billion there out here. Eve know how to get to it, man. Hell yeah. For sure. That's billion too. That's billion too. That's billion shit, man. City. Billy got some more fuckers than he had about that bitch hitting, man. Y'all got a strong music. Like just seeing, we was talking about even earlier with the battle rap shit. So like how that shit, like that's got you going, right? And how long did that continue? What made you, you know, get back into it? And why is battle rap part of y'all culture? Like, I mean, that's how I learned. I learned it from up top. So no shit. Like that's how y'all were rapping. Like that's what y'all call music. It's real competitive in the city. You know what I mean? Negas was always trying to be lyrical because we like close to New York, like the Mecca is like right there. Close to Jersey where a lot of the legends is from, like we like right there. So we knew how to be lyrical, knew all of the slang and all of the terminologies. We knew how to jump in that bag. But at the same time, we further south and like in a different place. So we got our own accent, our own way we put words and sound. So it was like distinctive. You know what I mean? But it's like a real competitive place. Like with everything, with sports, with just living, grinding, whatever you do is like a competitive place. So because Negas was trying to be lyrical and Negas was competitive, you get battle rap, you know what I mean? But there was different forms of it. Like, you know, as hip hop evolved, the way people battle rap evolved. You know what I'm saying? Like this way y'all look at battle rap now and it didn't always exist. Like the way people battle was different. And a lot of times it was like cypher style. Like you rap, I'll rap. Like we just cypher in and it's like who the best or who can last the longest. You know what I'm saying? Okay, y'all weren't going at each other like this. But like, you know, directly saying shit about the person that's across from you. Looking at the nigga face and, you know what I mean? Being aggressive and disrespecting the nigga and trying to destroy the nigga in front of you. Like with just bars, like not really no flow. Like, you know what I'm saying? Not trying to flow to a beat or make a song. You just trying lyrically just break this nigga down with bars. Like that form came later and I'm a big part of that. Right, you know what I mean? So when you say you're a big part of that, what do you say that when it switched when you came in the game and you showed them how to stop being aggressive and we're going to be lyrically? Wow. Now battle rap was always in the city but like I said, there was a different version of it. So I was on a radio on the Cypher show winning for months at a time. I got super famous in the city. All of the big people from the city know about this show. Listen to it, was fans of it. Like, you know what I mean? The Reigns was crazy. It was a radio one station. So the power station was suffering when this shit came on. It was like that lit, you know what I mean? So I was holding that shit down for a long period of time. But this is back in the day, but for the internet, like now if I was winning a radio show like that, it'd be something connected to it. Niggas go to social media, see what I look like when I'm from, learn about me, you know what I mean? Get into my music. But back then this was before the internet. So niggas were super fans but nobody knew what I looked like, you know what I mean? Word of mouth. And they were saying that I was young and they could hear in my voice that I'm probably like a young boy but I'm super nice. So, you know what I mean? It was hard for niggas to know what I looked like. So I started traveling around and just battling, spitting, like, you know what I mean? Challenging everybody so that they can connect this nigga from the radio with how I really am and how I really look. What? It's a place called Broad Nolany in the city. It's like we're a bus depot where a bunch of buses and trains come to. So it's like, no matter what school you go to in the city, like, you know what I mean? A lot of people meet up in this place after school. Like it'd be like hundreds of thousands of kids out there, you know what I'm saying? Just all meeting up in this one location. But my high school is like right up the street. So after I get out of school, I walk down the street to Broad Nolany. And this way, not just people from my high school but from high schools all over in the city would meet up at. What? And that's why I would have Cypher's at and battle every day. So, you know, a lot of famous artists that come from the city, passed through there, seen it, you know what I mean? Experienced it, witnessed it. Because it was every day. Like we was out there just going crazy. Like, you know what I mean? So a combination of me winning this radio show Cypher and then battling in the street like that and carrying it is what made me super popular. So anybody came through the city like who hot or who's next, my name was coming up. So that's how I was getting wild opportunities in. You know what I mean? Meeting people and figuring shit out because of that. You know what I mean? So you had to do your own promo. Like I need to go out here, let it be known that I'm fucking out of here. How you knew to do that? Like in the head, you just figured that shit out? How the fuck you was just like? Yeah, cause I think the best marketing plan is like staying true to the culture. And I found out that I wanted to rat when I was in the fourth grade. So this before I had bills, kids and responsibilities, I just wanted to be the best. I ain't care about the money or the business. I just wanted to keep impressing people with what I wrote down. So for that reason, you know what I mean? There's a reason why I made a lot of decisions. So me winning this radio competition, it steps in the direction of me being the best like I want to be. But now I need people to know what I look like, who I am. So now I'm in the street, battling anybody that say they rat. Then I told you I got the deal with Rough Riders when I was 17. I thought when you get a deal, it's over. Like you get a deal and you get money and you just out and it's just like, it's just make a song and they just put it out. That's what I thought the deal was. But it was just a production deal to Rough Riders. Like I didn't have an actual deal. And I'm saying to a major, so it was no budgets, no money. They had studios that I was able to record and I was able to be around all that energy. Like you said, X, E, all these people. But I didn't have a budget for myself or for my group to record music or to put it out. To get it on the radio. We ain't even had no marketing and promotion budgets. So it was like a test period. Like to see if you had what it takes to take it to the next level. But it was difficult when you were around people like DMX and all this energy that's already selling all these records. It's like, yo, when you gonna get your opportunity? So years is passing. And like I said, we was on Rough Rider, Rough Rider Di volume two and volume three. So we was doing stuff, but it's one record. Like you know what I'm saying? It's not like me, the main focus. So me knowing that is what made me jump back in that battle bag. Like in order to get what I need and get people to focus on me and know that I'm a priority, is to battle everybody. So anybody that say that they rap, anybody that I ever see that got bars, I'm going at them. And prove that I'm better than them because a lot of niggas got situations and opportunities. So if I'm better than them, then you know that I need one too. So that's what I start doing. And because I was on the Rough Riders and we like from a, it's like a battle type of environment. I said now DMX, the locks, drag, Eve, none of them don't got a battle no more. Like anybody that come through here, they gotta go, they gotta battle me. Like, you know what I'm saying? They could just chill. Right. You the gunner. Unless they run through me and nobody couldn't. You know what I'm saying? So ever since I came around, they ain't have to battle no more. And by me battling so much as what got my name known and what made Swiss want me as a solo artist which helped me get out the Rough Riders deal and get into a new deal. Right. And then get the real deal, which was with J-Records and Clive Davis to open up the budgets to be able to get in the studio, get niggas like R. Kelly, Yon Records. Right. You know what I mean? Put it out on the radio and millions of people hear it and it's right in your face. You know what I'm saying? So the Swiss company, you personally like, yo, I wanna fuck with you. Even to sell, like, I went gold. Like, you know what I mean? I went gold my first project. But, you know, now with the streaming and all that, like, you know what I mean? It's probably even more than that. But from the very beginning, I went gold on my first project. Right? But this is my stuff. Yeah, and this was not like the digital days. Like this is when real physical hard copies were selling out the store. Yeah, but to get a CD, to get a CD printed up. You know what I'm saying? It might cost a dollar or two. You know what I'm saying? To make a CD. You know what I mean? With the artwork packaged up. You know what I mean? And then putting the right place for a nigga to buy it. So if you paying $2 a CD and you want to go gold and sell 500,000 records, then that's a million dollars that you need to just put into buying CDs alone. Right. Not including marketing, promotion, not including your recording budgets, not including your events, and you traveling around and trying to make the shit make sense. Right. Not including your features, your producers, your studio time, none of that. Right. I'm just talking about just for CDs alone, if you want to go gold or platinum, if you want to go platinum and sell a million records, you had to get a million CDs printed up. Right. So even if you could get a gut rating as a dollar CD, that's still a million dollars that you need up front. That you need up front. So that's why it was hard for the average nigga to come out and pop, because niggas ain't got them type of budgets. So you got to get a deal. You got to go through them companies. Same way now, like even though we got technology and niggas feel like they're more independent, niggas don't got the type of money to own a portal to bring out your music right now. Right. So you got to partner up with somebody that own a portal big enough to release your music. Right. And they taking all the money. Yeah, so niggas not really independent now. It's the same shit. Did you hear that shit Snoop said about the streaming? What he said about how it's like, yeah it's cool how you can run these numbers up and he asked a question like, how can artists get a billion streams and not have a million dollars? Thanks. And he was like, yeah this shit sound good, but where the fuck is the money? Whoever's running the stream this shit is hiding the money. Oh, they definitely hiding it. Niggas pay you, you got a damn nil. Somebody got a list of your shit. 25,000 times. Yeah, if it's some real shit that don't even make sense. Use your five dollars. It's up to the artist to figure it out. You can't expect the people that's like in the position of these labels to figure out how streaming gonna work, get their legal team to put together a plan, figure it out and just present it to the artist because what do they get out of that? It's up to you to figure it out, but for they figure it all the way out which they doing right now. They're streaming like with physical records selling how they had that figured out. It's the same way they gonna figure this digital shit out. It's just new. But what's crazy about it is a stream don't got an exact number of what it is. It do, but they don't let it be known. I'm just saying every platform pay different for what a stream is worth. Like every platform will say a stream is worth different amounts. 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Just a phone, like a download and inherit is like, in that direction, so it was like the future, so everybody was on it. Plus phones, you know, back in the day, niggas ain't even had phones, niggas had beepers and you had to use the pay phone. So when cell phones started getting more popular and the price went to where the average person could afford it, now everybody on the phone. So everybody got phones or if my phone could ring a certain way and sound a certain way, like how I want it. Now I know it different. It's like the future. I mean niggas used to do it recording their voicemail. When niggas record a song on their voicemail, so you know what niggas want to ring the song, if that's you to play. I didn't ring the song on my phone. That was even the back in the day form of like, you know what I'm saying, like the future. Like when you had the regular box answering machines, like you know what I'm saying? And then you come with cell phones where you could leave a voice message and customize it and the shit just play like that. It's like, you know what, it's the future. You know what I mean? Just got to go. But that shit don't last forever. It came a time where niggas couldn't help but leave some type of shit on the answering machine because niggas was leaving messages and that was the thing. But now when texting come, all these phones and emails and all these forms of communication now everybody got a phone, niggas don't even want they shit to ring. Niggas shit on vibrate or ring like however the fucking shit ring. Right. Fuck, yeah, yeah. No, with a ring, don't even want the shit to ring at all. Yeah, like make my shit ring like a telephone. Yeah. That's basically, that's the old people ring. Okay, so take us back because like you said, we were talking earlier. I'm a hustler. I want to make sure I'm saying this right. You was quote unquote telling us about the time that you was locked up and you was getting out from, you know, rehabilitating yourself with the car wreck. So how was that transition going through all that and staying focused? Like what was that mind frame at that time? It was difficult, you know. The doctor said I wasn't going to be able to rap again. Right. You know what I mean? And I was in a coma for a period of time when I came out the coma I had amnesia. So I couldn't even remember like none of my raps. Like none of my raps. Like even like I'm a, whoa. Yeah, I'm a hustler. Hotel like big records that I did a thousand times that I should know it. I ain't know none of the words. I couldn't remember the words. I look at the video and it's like, you know like when the name on the tip of your tongue and you know you know it but you just can't find it in your head. Like, damn, what the fuck is this name? Like that. It's like I know that I should know it cause I see myself in it but I don't remember the video. I don't remember doing it. I don't remember none of the lyrics. So it took time for me to get my memory back and get healthy enough to be able to record. And plus they said I wasn't going to be able to. So to get healthy enough, quick enough get my memory back and start recording, making music. I felt like it was a blessing, you know what I'm saying? So that's the tight bag I was in. Like, you know, not really in battle rap mode like I normally be is as competitive. I was like more thankful to God like that. I beat that case. They was trying to give me life. I was not supposed to be here. And it's cool when you do it and when you beat it but you even see situations now. Niggaz is losing cases and getting wild time. So that could have been my predicament. And I mean, then I come home and I get in an accident, then I could have died or forever lost my memory or not recovered the right type of weight. But I did and I started making music again. So that's the bag I was in. You know what I mean? On that project, bars. That's what I was going to ask. How did that competitive spirit factor in? But you just said it, man. Like, you know, but it was with more gratitude, bro. Cause you saw it twice. Like, you know what I'm saying? Two times it could have all been over. And even though I'm a hustler you was talking about the ringtone and it was a big record. I was locked up like, you know what I mean? Like two, three weeks before that album dropped. So when there was crunch time, like it was time for me to go on the main promo tour like to promote this big record that I got out. I'm locked up. So I can't do it. Can't promote it, right? And I mean, and I told you this like before real social media. So it's not like it's just spreading around on the internet and Niggaz could still post on your page and keep you alive. It's like I couldn't really do promo cause I was booked. So to go through that, come home and then start working on music again then get in an accident, lose your memory. It's like, damn, I went through a lot. Like, you know what I mean? So. How long was that process? I was in a coma for like nine, 10 days. Then I had amnesia for months. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, it started coming back, you know, more and more. Like every day I would wake up and start connecting stuff and remembering a little more and more years to come back. Like, you know what I mean? Like I ain't forget my whole life. I forgot like 15 to like 18 years of my life. But anybody that I knew before that, like my mom, my name, like stuff, I knew all of that. Like, you know what I'm saying? But if it was somebody that I just recently met, even if it was like somebody I was close to, like Swiss, like I, it's like you looking at him like you kind of like think like, I've seen you before or something. But you can't like, remember like where you know him from. Like that. And I've seen that shit happen on movies and TV shows and shit like that. Like amnesia. But I ain't understand like, how can you still know how to walk, talk, know how to do shit, but just forget? Like that don't, I ain't get it. So that should happen to me. Shit real, like. That's crazy. Did anybody not believe you dumb? Was anybody like, no, you bullshitting. You know me. You ain't running in a movie like that. Everybody understood it. Not that I recall. Okay. Cause I wasn't like dealing with too many people. Right. I mean, just the people that probably came to see me at the hospital when I was in the coma at first. Once I woke up out the coma, I ain't feel right. So I left the hospital. And I mean, I wasn't supposed to, but I left. And I was just in the house like healing up. So I ain't really come in contact with like a bunch of people. Okay, you okay with that one? But my family for sure, they definitely knew. Like I was, I was fucked up. Like, you know what I'm saying? So they knew that, you know what I mean? They seen me in the coma. They seen me fucked up. And they seen when I woke up, not all the way there. Like I don't got it right. Like, you know what I mean? This was the time that the record is hot. Yeah, for sure. Shit popping. Your family telling you stories. Like, and you just don't remember. They just telling you this or just not used to you not having a memory. So they might say something or ask something. You don't really remember it. But you know, telling you shit and telling you stories, making you feel comfortable, showing you videos and pictures and stuff. And it's just like, you just start thinking, thinking. Then you go to sleep, wake up. It's like closer. And after some months, I got most of my memory back. Right. Like, only thing to this day, I still don't remember. Like I remember getting in the car. Like that day when the accident happened now. I remember that, like what I did before that and getting in the car. But like once the accident happened, I don't remember all of that. Only thing I remember is when I woke up about the coma. But like the rest of my life came back. Even the raps, all of the reasons, like why I wrote the raps, like the science, like the stuff I was like studying and doing. Like all that shit came back. And that was a blessing. Yes, sir. It's a real blessing. It's a real blessing. And you said the two step came out of that. The song, Drinkin' My Two Step came out of that. Yeah, that's why I made that. Yeah. Cause I was still with G Records. They wanted like a party song. Like to celebrate the fact that. And I mean, and you know, that was the vibe, like a tempo type party shit. And I just came with like, I'm a hustler, b-boy stance and records that was like, you know me up. So they wanted something like that. But it's like, I was more in like, you know what I mean? Like the record that I had on that project, like I'm an innocent man, misunderstood. Like that record I had, I was more in that bag. Like, you know, that's not really party. That's just like pain. It's like a heartfelt song. It's like some deep shit. So I was more in that bag, wanted to shoot shit like that. But I'm signed to a label. So I don't got the final say so. So we had to come together. That's why I did drinking two step, but did it like that. Like talking about the case, talking about the accident. Like we celebrating the fact that I'm home. It's on, it's on, it's on. And I'm home. Get the patron and tell him that it's all like a celebration time. That I'm back. And they said I wasn't going to be able to rap again. But now I'm shooting the video. Are you hearing my new record that I wrote after they said that? So it's like celebration time. Fresh. Yeah. So that's why I did it. It was lit. So I got a whole new meaning now when I go listen to him. I'm like, you know what, didn't he go with them? I'm home. You know what I'm saying, like. What? Didn't have to go through that shit back to back man. Back to back. Case ain't that shit. And it still has drive to, like he said, he remember he should drive. He remember why he wrote it. He remember why he wanted to rap. That one number guy just put it right back into you. And that's why I was about to ask you now, like what made you actually go fuck with the URL and do some battle rapping and shit like that? What made you want to go fuck with hands on like that? I felt like that for my battle rap. I started, you know what I mean? Like me and freeway battle that came out years and years ago, even before the YouTube. So it was no way for people to see it. After that shit got established, they put it on their years leader. Before the tape came out, it was like just a rumor. Let nobody know if that shit was real or not. It was one of them, it was one of them. It was one of them, it was one of them. It was one of them, it was one of them. The battle rapping feel, he gone crazy. In the audio, mixtape DJ got the audio, took it from the VHS tape and made an audio and put it out on the mixtape. So people was just listening to it. Ryan playing it, but they couldn't see it. But I feel like that's the first time nigga seen niggas like really hungry and being competitive, face to face, going hard at each other with no beat. Like that, you know what I mean? And that's what paved the way for these leagues and this type of energy that started. So I always felt as though I was a part of it. I was going to events before I started getting back in battle rap. It was always like dealing with league owners and you know what I mean? Fucking with battle rappers. I was always like feeling like I was like a part of the culture. I just was on some other shit. Told niggas that they got to give me 250,000 for me to come back in battle. I told them niggas that 20 years ago, like when niggas wasn't even getting a dollar. Like so it just seemed impossible. How the fuck you going like that shit don't even make sense. But I just felt like it was possible. And I stood on it. Like I got offers, they used to blog and talk about cash got off for 30,000. He ain't getting out of show right now. Why won't he take it? Then he got off for 40,000. He should take it and come back. But they didn't understand it. I said I'm not coming back till I get this number. So the first people to offer me that number was like the king of the dot team. King of the dot, Alki David. They got with him and he put together an event. And those was the first person to give me the money that I was asking for. Once I did that and the views went up. I'm gonna fuck it with the dog, you remember him? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Once the views went up and people seen that it was a success, that's when the URL reached out. And I mean to make it happen for them. It made that happen. Yeah. And you back in the bag now. Yeah, yeah. And on the last battle I did with Hitman, that was with ARP, RBE. So that's where it became entertainment. So I mean I ain't really connected to no league. Fuck with all the leagues. Battle, rap, energy, period. So I'll bounce around and make a make sense of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Have a good day. Yeah. Sure. It's hard though, man, that you can actually, you know, be in the, not just a rapper, be in the entertainment game. Right. And then standing around for so long, girl. Like, what do you feel like? That's what battle rap did, made me hungry again. Right. Yeah. Because learning the business, how shiesty niggas is in the business going through ups and downs, seeing twists and turns, seeing people that tell you that they your brother and they love you and they'll do whatever for you. But when you go down through down times, they not even picking up the phone no more. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Then you see you go through shit when you back up again and then they call you again and then it's like, you see the shit that happened. You know what I'm saying? You see niggas act like they best of friends. Then like, right after they separate, they can talk crazy about each other like that bitch ass nigga. But they just like, when you see how this business is, it's like hard to keep the love after time. You know what I mean? Especially when you're getting robbed, you feel like you're not getting the right percentage for what you're doing though, the work you putting in. But a lot of people that's been in it as long as me are losing job because of those reasons. But that's not why I do it for the business. You know what I mean? I feel like whether I do that for business or not, I'm a still rat. Because I said I wanted to start doing this since I was a kid to be the best. So I'm still in that bag. Everything I do it for is for that reason. And everything else comes second. Like when I first got my first deal, I wasn't worrying about the business or recording no music and nothing like that. I just knew if I had the best rhymes I was gonna get a deal. And now that I'm reinventing myself, seeing bars is back, I'm taking that same approach. Doing podcasts, running around, doing different platforms, back rapping and making music and just showing people that I could do it. And once they see it, you get the right response. Because out of sight, out of mind, you just gotta put yourself in people's face so they could be aware of what you're doing. And you're gonna get the response you're looking for. So that's the type of bag I'm in right now. Definitely. You know, you, I wanna say you wanted the underrated, most reshapen it. You feel me that I would like to say because even in the South, we're adapting to your music ASAP. You feel me? And when you catch it now, I was a young, I was like, you ain't rapping like the up top knitters. It's like, yeah, we knew you from up top, but it was like, like you said, y'all had like your own punchy swing. You had your own swing to it. Like you wasn't rapping like nobody from New York up top. So when you came out, it just struck with us and I've been fucking with you since day one. Appreciate it. Even if I were three. I've been listening to your shit since I was three. Three and a half. Man, prove it. What are you just looking like for, man? What you want to take it to next? Nah, but you know the coach had just turned 50. So I'm in the same bag with you. With legends that, you know what I mean? I've been around. Right. Like, my grandmas, the cats and all them niggas was doing what they was doing. I was a baby too. Right. Like a lot of them niggas was doing shit before I was born. Like, you know what I mean? But once you fall in love with this shit, you do your research, you backtrack and shit that's like legendary, never die. Right. But look back on that shit whenever you're ready. This shit's still gonna be effective to this day. You know what I mean? It's different. Big Daddy Kane and Rock Kim and G rapping, all of them niggas that I looked up to that inspired me to want to do this shit. Niggas was doing that shit when I was a baby. Right. And I mean, even my mom and my dad both rapped before I was born. So this shit was around before I even came into the world. Hold on. Your parents rapped both of them together or just like separate and then they... Both, like, you know. There was a group? Nah. I think my dad was like really rapping and going hard. But because he was like rapping and going so hard and my mom was a fan of hip hop, she just started putting together her own bars. But she ain't like, go as hard or take it as serious or want to get famous like him. He was the main one that's like really... So how would you say your style of rapping? Because you got the metal force, the punch line. How would you say what's your style of rap? Bars. Strictly bars. That's my style. That's the main thing I focus on. Like I've been doing this so long, I could do anything. Like I could rap to any beat per minute. Like that'd be difficult for certain rappers. They might be dope on one beat per minute but they can't do them all. Like I could rap on any beat per minute on any topic about anything, you know what I'm saying? But what I feel as though is most important is when I do rap about anything, it gotta have some type of bars in it. It gotta have some figurative language, something creative in it. Something I'm saying that everybody in the room don't feel like they could have thought of. That's my main thing, you know what I'm saying? That's what I give a fuck the most about. Music came later. I told you I ain't had no beats, no demo tape. I ain't get a deal with no demo. I ain't had no music yet, you know what I'm saying? So I wasn't connected to no producer. I wasn't connected to no music. I wasn't trying to make that yet. It's just about my bars. I think it's about me. So that's most important. I'm gonna always put that first. Everything else that I learned is just accessories to help me, you know what I mean? Get to my final destination. Yeah, most definitely, yeah, yeah. But like, say for instance, something happened with technology or electric is out and niggas can't even pull up no more beats. Or producers, all the producers in the world just like, I ain't making beats no more. And there's no more hot beats. That mean as a rapper, you just like, well I can't rap no more because it ain't no more hot beats. Or you just gonna keep rapping off the same instrumental from back in the day that's already out. You just gonna keep remaking songs in them same beats? Or what? Who was some of the artists that you knew? I don't give a fuck. Even if niggas stop making beats, that's why I start producing because I can make my own beats or I could just rap, bro. I don't need no beat. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty. I was asking this, who were some of the artists that you were around that you feel like made you better as an artist? That I was around personally. Yeah. All of the legends that I ran into was making me better even before I met them. You know what I'm saying? But when I met them and I got a chance to be around them, like early in my career, I was in the studio with the Goat, LL. Like you know what I'm saying? I'm like a baby. I don't even got no album out, no single out yet. I just like fucking the mixtapes up. And I mean, I'm going crazy, but I ain't even really that established yet. He is already the Goat, you know what I mean? And I'm in the studio vibing with him. You know what I mean? And the way that that shit made me feel after looking up to this nigga before I even thought I wanted to be a rapper. And being in the studio with that nigga, he really fucking with you and the shit that I'm saying, he taking he and vice versa. Like, you know what I'm saying? He not looking at me like I'm something. Like he looking down on me, like he respect me for bars. So, you know what I mean? I've been in the studio and did records with Nas. Another nigga that I looked up to before I even got on, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And these niggas respect me. Like, you know what I'm saying? We in there smoking, we vibing, we coming up with shit. And the records is out. It's not like, it's like some niggas, niggas could pull it up right now. Cassidy featuring Nas and then go Nas featuring Cas because I'm on his records too. Like we done worked on shit I done worked with the niggas that I looked up to. Then in the studio with Jay-Z when I battled Freeway. You know what I mean? He cleared that for me to use his vocals on I'm a hustler. You know what I mean? I looked up to doing that. I mean, I've been in DMX house. Did the BET Cypher with him. That's like a legend. Like, you know what I'm saying? Niggas I looked up to. Niggas like Fat Joe, Norriega, niggas that was already selling records and doing a thing was calling me to the studio to jump on records while I cleft. When I first got down, put me on records with Patty LaBelle and while I cleft. It's like big records. The first video that I had out before my single was big business. And there was me, Ryan Osley, Puff Daddy, Snoop Dogg, Jada Kiss, Baby and me. And Snoop on Swiss Beats produced it. So it was like a B produced by Swiss with Snoop, Baby, Jada Kiss, Ryan Osley, Puff, all of these big name people on the record. And then me, I ain't have nothing. No, no records. I ain't have no plaques. I ain't do nothing yet. So to be in them type of positions, and you know what I'm saying? And niggas respect you and then you execute. That's what motivated me. And like you even said, the ball with the dog house. So like out of all of the people that was on that song, niggas still remember my shit. It's not like I was on a chorus, that was a verse, but niggas remember it like it was a hook. I got a large house, a dog. And that was the first single even before hotel. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So it's dope. That's shit. You got an amazing story, man. So amazing. You gotta do an audio play. That'll be dope. That's a goddamn movie you going around, got damn feelings battling. That's a fuckin' movie. How that nigga went and ripped and everybody got dammed. Yeah, and created a real organic buzz, man. Had the buzz off the radio, these didn't know what's face. Y'all gonna know me. Yes, sir. Yeah, I had a battle set up with the URL. We were supposed to be me and free, we were supposed to battle again. Word, let's go, that's gonna go crazy. That's gonna be time in platinum. It ain't happening though. Well, I don't think that's gonna go down. It's like, it's been a long period of time we was supposed to do it. You know what I mean? Something on the business side with them. I mean, I've been ready. Let niggas hear my rounds and all that. Battle rap niggas, I was like in the best shape of my life. I'm ready to go crazy on free. But they couldn't execute, they couldn't pay me the rest of the money. So we not gonna have no battle without the rest of the money. Right. You know what? If they walk in here and bring the rest of the money, put it on the table, or show me the cash app, or show me some shit like the Money Dad app. Then we can do the battle tonight, tomorrow. Steal what you're saying around so you're gonna race them off. Let's go. Nah, it's like a time pass, so I'm gonna always race them off. Right. I mean, I always race to the last minute. Man, we never really got your reaction to the actual footage of the first battle coming out, man. And people, you know that shit didn't crazy numbers on land. What was your reaction to it when it got out and the people finally saw it? And people were coming up to you like, yo, why are you doing like that? Like when it first came out online, I was like years and years after it was already out. You know what I mean? Even people in my city had the VHS tape. So people have been watching it and seeing it for years and talking about it. And a lot of industry niggas that I had relationships with was able to see it. So niggas been talking about it. So I wasn't like, you know what I mean? I was like going crazy when it got to the internet because that was already old. Yeah, yeah, I've been putting it on this shit. Yeah, it was like kinda old. Somebody just not posting this? Yeah, it should have been posting this. But I was happy about the technology, like letting a bunch of people be able to see shit like that. Because you reinvent it. You reinvent certain situations. Sure. It's just that look, that's one of the hip hop moments, man. If it's footage from, like you said, 50 years, that's a motherfucking moment. See, you know what I mean? Like, that's a motherfucking like. Mufflers talking about that, like that. Yeah, man, that whole little mixtape error, like that burp of just trying to do that shit. That's the first time Jay-Z got the hammy, man. Right. Like, I looked up to that man. I'm listening to this nigga music all the time. Right. And that freeway battle was the first time he got the hammy. Like, you know what I mean? And you give it a little more. So Swiss already know how I get busy. I'm already connected to him. He already repping, telling Jay-Z that I'm the best. Jay-Z don't believe it. So this is my first time I could let him hammy. Right. You know what I mean? They heard it, but they got to see it. So it's dope, like. I mean, to get around the goats, the niggas that inspired me, that I took bits and pieces from and put it in my pot to make my own stoop. Right. All of them dudes that respect you, I've been around them, hung with them. Like, you know what I mean? And they all had good shit to say about me. So that's dope. Yo shit, my boy. You the motherfucking Gizelle. No cap. No Colin Cappie. I'm kinda inviting you to give me to the up and coming man. Like you said, you well know, not just in the music industry, but especially in the filler area where the rap. Every week, it's like every week, somebody out of Philly going viral for like going somewhere and screaming crazy ass, freestyle. And it seemed like, damn, there everybody in Philly can rap. Good in the motherfuckers. It seemed like it's so many niggas just dropping shit out of there every week. You see some shit on the bootleg cab or nigga popped up at one of the radio stations and went crazy on the freestyle. So what kind of advice are you giving these guys to know what type of shit to avoid them out there? The best advice I could give you is believe in yourself, wanting anybody else. Stay dedicated and work hard. It ain't over till it's over. Always keep it moving. Set your own destination, keep going towards it. Right, right. You're a hustler, you're a hustler. Don't worry about how long the destination is and start to think about how long it's gonna take to get there. Best thing to do is just take the first step and then just start stepping towards it. You're stepping. Yeah, that's the best advice. That's real stepping, really. It's real stepping. You're moving this shit? I can't wait, man. Looking forward to it. So anybody watching, got some movie scenes open? Fuck, tell me you're auditioning, man. Let it go, let it go. And I get my boy in the movie right now. Yeah. Man, we can do this shit all night. No care. I like doing movies, though. You do. And I ain't tell myself I wanted to be an actor in the fourth grade. So I don't care as much about the science, it's more fun. Right. But I got advantages because I do rap. So memorizing scripts and lines and then flipping it around, add my home shit or rewrite in the scene and make it dope is easy for me to do because that's all I do all the time is write. Right. So I'm definitely wanting to do more shit. Yeah, yeah, man. Man, what's your social media so they can link up with you and hit you and let you know they fucked with the episode and all that? Cassidy underscore larceny, man. Cassidy underscore larceny. Shit, Lydia gmail for business. S-H-I-T-L-I-T-T-Y gmail. We need the name of that new project. Bars? Yeah, Bars is back. Bars is back. When is it? You got a date? Yeah, I'm about to be on it. Yeah. When? That's why we ain't put the date on yet because I'm waiting for him. You see, do we get to do it tomorrow? I'm gonna do it tomorrow. Oh, let's go. You want to? Bars is back. Need this? Yeah. Bro, hit me if you need some bars. No, no cal. Got bars, but let's go, man. Bars is back. Get him on Cassidy's album. Nigga, you bushy. Come on up. No cap. No cap. No ass. No ass. No brim. Well, Cass, look, bro. I know this your first time stopping through here. Y'all. Don't let it be the last. You know exactly what it is. Not a fact when the album's probably gotta come back. Cause we gotta promote it. Nah, for sure. No real shit. You gotta kick one off with Bendo. I'm definitely gonna come back cause y'all niggas put niggas in a good mood, man. Laughing, having a good time, not so serious. Not like y'all got our terrier mood and just having fun, man. Shit, let our fuck with y'all, man. I'll be back. Yeah, cause we ain't journalists. We just comedians. But you gotta come back. I know. You gotta come back and do the 85 with the band. You be down to do that? Yeah, for sure. Let's have a go. Man, give her about two songs. We having too much at about two. Yeah. Put Bendo on G. Three depends on how you feel, man. A hoover hoover. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta do your part, too. Yeah, I'm gonna do that when you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, okay. That's hoover hoover. That's the one I'm talking about. Yeah. I knew I said it for a reason. Yeah, no cal. Oh, shit, man. We just gonna keep having to get on it and stop through here. And fuck with us over here on the 85 South Show, bro. None other than Cassidy. No, man. 85 South Show. For the motherfucking whole face shit, my nigga. No hat. No hat.