 Is it just us today, Eileen? It will just be the other one. All right. Well, let's call this meeting to order. I need to notify anybody listening that pursuant to government code section 549 53 E and the recommendation of the health officer. Excuse me. The county and Sonoma downtown subcommittee will be participating via zoom members of the public may view and listen to this meeting. As noted on the city's website is noted on the agenda. Madam secretary, will you review how the public may comment? Right. Members of the public wishing to speak during item 3 public comment or during any of the schedule items will be able to do so by utilizing the rate can feature. Or by pressing star 9 on their phone, they will then be given the ability to address the subcommittee. Thank you. Thank you. So let's move to item. 3.1 road square association community benefit district update Rafael Rivera, economic development specialist. Jack, before we move on, should we take the role? Oh, yes. Thank you, Josh. No problem. Good idea. Here. Member Sawyer here. Look at the record reflect that members funding is not present. Okay, thank you. And consistent with what John was saying before jumping to item 3.1 will do item 2 public comments. Is there any members of the public wishing to speak on any items not listed on the agenda? Anybody listening in may press star 9 on their phone or using the raise hand feature via zoom. We have no raised hands at this time, nor do we. Oh, I apologize. We do have an individual member of the public who would like to speak. Let me just pull up the screen for them to do so. Flowers are confirmed that you are able to see the shared screen with the timer. Oh, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Oh, hi. My name is Ed Flowers. I live in Brinkin Valley. And I'm, I'm, I see on the agenda, something about courthouse square and I'm not sure is what that's about. But I'm, I, I contacted. Okay, I lose you. No, we're here. Okay. All right. Thank you. Anyway, what I'm here to discuss is courthouse square. There are four parking spaces around two on each side of the, on each side of the square that have charging station for electric vehicles. They have, they do not have any kind of signage on them. That indicates that they're, you know, that those sites could be used by electric vehicles to charge their vehicles. And so, you know, it's kind of a senseless to the mind to my mind is kind of senseless to have them there because they tend to be during the day each day unless it's eight o'clock Sunday morning to be occupied by cars that have that are gas gas consuming. So I'm not sure why the city went to the expense to have those charging stations installed when they're not in use. It's a Chevy Volt. It's been frustrating for me to be at the square not being able to use any of those charging stations. So I'm here to request that there at least be some signage there to indicate that those slots to save our for electric vehicles. To speak, I'm in Pismo Beach. My wife and I are down here on a short vacation. And I parked my vehicle in the main parking area of parking lot downtown Pismo Beach, and they have signage on their two slots that have charging stations and they say they're going to, they will tow your vehicle if they find your park there and you're not charging that they will tell you even at your expense so your vehicle. I don't think we I'm not sure we need anything quite that draconian, but it would be very nice if there could at least be some signage that that the slots these two on each side of the park of the square are there for EV EV electric vehicles to charge. Thank you, Mr. Flowers. I am sorry, but your time is up. We do have timing on public comment. I will, we I can't get into a discussion with you and about the subcommittee cannot get into discussion with you about it because it's not listed on the agenda. But I do believe that at our December meeting, we will be having this coming forward as part of our parking update. I hope you'll join us in December. But thanks for bringing this to our attention. Okay, let's let's move forward to item 3.1. Rafael Rivera. Yes, good morning, Council Member Sawyer, Council Member Tibbet, Chair Tibbet, and pleasure to see you both and everyone joining on the call. Welcome to the downtown subcommittee meeting. My name is Rafael Rivera. I'm a community every specialist economic development specialist for the economic development division. And I am actually reporting on behalf of the railroad square association. I am actually on the board, and therefore I will be reporting on behalf of Chris Wilson, who is the executive director at the association. And first of all, the association would like to acknowledge and thank Mark Tweed for his assistance in getting the old lights removed from the trees and Depot Park. And they would also like to acknowledge and thank Mr. Tim Finnegan, who is also a city center of staff member for doing such a great job in coordinating the tree trimming in around Depot Park. And surrounding the park looks so much lighter. And now the association can move forward with the plans to do some lighting around the trees there are Depot Park including the large palm tree. Before we get to the holidays or around as we get closer to the holiday season, they would also like to thank Mr. Rivera for facilitating some of these meetings. The association has actually signed a contract with the same electrical contractor that the DAO used to wrap the trees in the downtown area so the association would also like to thank Cadence for the referral. There's been some significant uptick in vandalism in the area, broken windows, break ins, transients sleeping on the streets, sidewalks, private properties throughout the district. Just recently a window was broken at Seoul Desire, very unfortunate. And just prior to that, the one of the trucks at the teabags business got their catalytic converter stolen. The car was also broken into the Hotel La Rose parking lot behind Aroma Roasters. The dedicated security continues to patrol the area during five nights a week with random dry buys on two nights. Definitely a problem and the association continues to encourage businesses to file police reports when some of these unfortunate incidents occur. The association would also like to appreciate the work of Jenny Lynn Holmes. A lot of people know Jenny Lynn, and she actually works for Catholic Charities. They would like to acknowledge her for keeping the district up to date on the changes regarding security and everything that's happening with the relocation of individuals from 7th Street over to St. Benton the Paul area. The association would also like to mention that the first phase for the tree trimming on 4th Street and 5th Street has been completed and there's also some proposals to take on Wilson Street and 3rd Street as part of the next phase. The way finding project is going well is moving forward. There's been a few bumps in the road with the association that necessarily understanding the process on how that goes. But they have relied on guidance from the city representatives and city community development division. And they're presently working on filing for an encroachment permit so that the project can now can move forward and these polls can be installed. The ad hoc committee has been working with the city staff Ross Sprinkle Jason and others to get this process through. These will be a total of eight way finding science around the area pointing to hotels, restaurants and other businesses, etc. The there's also a sidewalk repair project that continues to be discussed and the association has created a not hot committee to look at costs and possible phases of this project. They hope the association wishes to continue to work with the city to explore for funding opportunities to bring the project to provision. There are safety concerns, especially, especially as it gets dark earlier and with the rains coming our way. There are areas that pose a great danger and risk to pedestrians and such. The holidays are fast approaching and the association is stepping up the marketing with radio ads and print ads. They're excited to bring back the free carriage rides, which will be every weekend through the month of December. And they're adding holiday and music activities on weekends and some old fashioned holiday spirits in rural square restaurants and shops continue to be busy continue to thrive. And they're looking forward to the branch line opening soon, which is where the old flying go coffee used to be. This should be happening this month in the month of November. So the association is wishing to continue to work with city staff and continue bringing great things to railroad square. So that is the report from the railroad square association. And thank you. Mr. Romero. Any questions Mr. Sauer. No questions. Thanks. Thanks. Great report. Appreciate it. Thank you, chair. Thank you. Let's go to public comment on three point one. Are there any members of the public wishing to speak on this item? Okay. I apologize. I was on mute. We do. We have no raise hands at this time. Okay. Thank you very much. All right, let's move on to item 3.2. Good morning, everyone. Chairman, council member Sawyer. Nice to see you both. Quick, quick updates for downtown businesses. We have a few new businesses that have opened, which we're really excited about. Mercedes Hernandez, who we work with all summer long to bring SoCo market downtown has opened a brick and mortar. They opened on 4th street. Holy vintage. They opened on Friday. The old made local spot. So really excited that we reached out to her, brought her downtown to have her market here and made it easy for her to have her market and helped her see the potential in being in downtown Santa Rosa. Today, which we've all been very excitedly waiting for has finally opened as well. Seems to be going pretty well. And then we had a new, a new boutique on D street open and we have a new art and tattoo studio in the works in the old skaters location on the 600 block it's looking really, really good in there so excited to see that that come to fruition. Things that are kind of tackling our business owners will surprise nobody. First is parking. Everyone's very eager to get parking squared away for 2022 as the incentives are scheduled to end at the end of this year. The three incentives that are in place for for the garage is currently free after five first hour free and free weekends have been really, really beneficial to our downtown business owners and property owners as they work to lease open space. And so we're, we're eager to work with council and city staff to extend those parking incentives and come up with a plan to make downtown parking more accessible and friendly to the community and make it easier for them to come down for both shopping dining and all of the events and activities that the DAO is hosting downtown. So the property owners who are leasing office space also want to figure out how to improve employee parking options as a way to help combat some of the barriers and challenges that they face when when leasing office space I think we all know that office space. There's an incredible amount of office space now available, due to a number of circumstances, first and foremost, the pandemic but also due to some of the challenges of having having a business downtown parking is definitely toward the top of the list. As our issues with the homeless population. We continue to continues to be the bulk of the work from the street plus team. Every day, interacting with the folks who are taking up residents downtown spending time on the square spending time in Comstock. Sleeping in in doorways, utilizing doorways as restrooms it's it's an ongoing challenge for our team. And they continue to see new faces seems to be the regular. The new normal is that there's new faces every day, which is, which is concerning for them is they more and more time, more and more of their time goes toward helping to support and manage the population. Unfortunately, similarly to Raphael's report we have also had an increased number of reports of break ins and thefts downtown. I've had four reports of break ins and thefts inside buildings. A salon, one of our office spaces, actually two of our office spaces and a retailer. They're breaking in stealing cash boxes, tablets, things that are quick and easy to grab. It's it. They're all working with SRP D and they've shared what footage they have if they have footage. But I'm hoping that was hoping to see it on the agenda today but I'm hoping that that will be able to continue the conversation about expanded CCTV footage downtown. But that SRP D has shared that that does seem to be a good deterrent so we'd love to figure out how we can work with the city to address this because it appears to be an expanding issue. That's it for the, for the unfortunate news I can move on to some of the happier stuff now. So we're looking at what committees are really actively trying to support all aspects of downtown. Our design improvement committee is has a new, new lighting installation going in in the next couple of weeks. We also have a holiday decoration installation going in we're going to be putting, I think something like 1200 snowflakes in trees throughout downtown so should look very festive and wintery down here. We have a tree planting project which we put on hold in the spring because of the drought is now scheduled to move forward. We have tagged all the trees on 4th Street with green tape, there's 31 of them that are going to be removed. They're going to be replaced by either crepe myrtles or ginkgo trees. And then the DAO is responsible for managing those will be cleaning up after them making sure they are watered and hopefully, we get them in time so that they can. Establish themselves well this winter. And we've also been really, really busy on the community engagement side. We, I don't think we've met since our block party in September, but we held our end of summer block party. It was really fun. I think attendance was down because it happened to be raining. It was kind of an unexpected thing for for mid September but we had a few hundred families come out, a lot of fun on the square music activities. It was really, really great to see all those folks come out. And then on Friday we had our first ever fall fun fest. It was a huge success. We partnered with our friends at Bayside church they brought seven carnival games downtown. We unfortunately couldn't close the streets because it was a little bit cost prohibitive to us. So we had to have all the trick or treaters restricted to the sidewalks. But we did find some space on the sidewalks to put, put the carnival games out. And then we, we drove traffic to, I think we had 28 or 29 businesses who handed out candy. I have never been a part of an event since I started working for the district where I've had such positive feedback from both our business owners and our community members. So, you know, I don't think many of our businesses did business I think their main business was giving away free candy, but they all got new new families in front of them. Who got exposed to, to their restaurant or to their, to what they're selling in their shop so it was, it was a really big success for everybody. And we, we ended the night with a costume contest Mayor Rogers came out and was one of our judges, and then showed a movie on the square so we're we're really happy to be able to kind of bring this this first time event to downtown. And I think I'm already getting questions about what it's being hosted next year. We're not quite ready to start planning it but hopefully we can make it happen again. And then I was hoping to report about this at our, at our last meeting but it was canceled so we are, we are full steam ahead on the synthetic rank or the square. We raised about $100,000 to bring it in between the rank rental cost and the infrastructure to support it and we've done that. Thank you to Tara who's been helping us move forward with the permit and Gabe for helping us figure out the logistics of being on the square. I'm sure we're going to be relying heavily on city staff as we work through the logistics of everything so we're just grateful for the ongoing support and making this happen. We've had such great response from from people in the community who are just thrilled to see this come downtown. We are trying to make the installation as as festive as possible who've got a lot of decorations coming in. We have at least one but hopefully three markets that are happening during the course of the of the ring being open and then we also have our opening ceremony taking place on November 26. So we have a lot of fun plans for that it's going to be just a huge celebration of everything Santa Rosa so we between the chamber and VSR visit Santa Rosa and the downtown district we're really excited to be bringing this activation to downtown. This is an incredible amount of work but it's definitely something we want to provide to the community, especially after the last couple years so we're grateful to be able to be bringing this bring this to courthouse square. I normally get some logistical questions about the ring so I'll try to address address those a little bit now. We are selling tickets there. You can find them from the downtown Santa Rosa.org website. They cost right now we've got early bird pricing so it's $7 and 50 cents a ticket. That includes a skate rental. We have skates on site for a child size nine through a men size 13. If you have feet outside of that size range you will have to bring your own skates but you can absolutely skate on the synthetic ice with regular ice skates. They just need to be sharp. We have volunteers who are operating the ring which helped us with not having to staff the ring for the whole time it's open and then they're all from local nonprofits so they're receiving the proceeds from the ring, which is a nice way to go back continue to support the community. And the ring opens on the 19th. We have it's open Friday, three to seven Saturday and Sunday 11 to seven from the 19th of November through January 9 and then it's also open four hours a day during holiday weeks so the week of Thanksgiving. It's open during the week Christmas and New Year's it's open for four hours a day every day with the exception of the holiday itself. So, this is this is definitely a trial and error situation for for the Chamber we've never done anything like this before we're learning as we go. But we are, we're very excited about it we're looking forward to starting to get the word out through our marketing efforts which haven't even really kicked off yet but we've had quite a few ticket sales already which is exciting. Excited to be to be moving forward on this I think, you know, we had a lot of requests to bring to bring an ice rink in this synthetic rank I think really hits the mark because it's doesn't use power doesn't use water, and it still allows us to create that fun festive winter, winter activity for everyone downtown so happy to answer any questions on that if there's anything I haven't touched on. I do have a question. What is the material that the synthetic material. Have you touched it have you seen it and how it functions, how did they, what is, what's it made up the synthetic. It's basically an engineered plastic is the easiest way to describe it. It functions just like a conventional rank so you're able to, there's there's a couple really fancy tricks so I don't know Council Member Sawyer if you can do it a topic but I think that's one of the only things that's restricted because it could cause damage but otherwise it functions just like a regular rank so it has really good glide ability which is the word that I've recently learned and is supposed to supposed to feel almost identical except for the fact that it's not as hard if you fall and not cold. So, we've, I've seen a lot of video demonstrations one of our, one of our partners are nonprofit partners who's running it, who is connected to Snoopy's home ice they, they use it for for training, and for when they, when they do floats and parades and things like that so they, they said it's great with everyone I've talked to has been on it has had, you know, really positive feedback so. I'm excited to test it out. I don't know how long I'll be out there but I think it'll be really fun to to try it and and and see how it goes we're going to have quality music playing and and festive decorations to so hopefully the lack of actual ice will be not really an issue. Excellent, thank you. The company was interested the company is called Glice GL I see. So they're a Swiss company. And you can look them up and learn a little bit more about the product. Thanks cadence. I have a question for you relating to parking extension. Have you had the opportunity to sit down with the parking department and develop a long term plan. I asked is, you know, these extensions seem to be, you know, coming and coming and I don't, I don't get the impression that there's really a lot of long term. Calculus behind behind it and that's not, I'm not trying to say that an accusatory way to you or to our staff but I'm wondering if these if these requests which I think are valid. I think coming to the council, it might be who of us to actually have a plan in place to make sure revenues coming into the parking district but maybe those benefits, you know, can remain. Yeah, we, we have not not since Kim has left. I'm not sure if her position has been filled yet I haven't, I haven't heard about that but we did have had a couple of conversations recently both with Mayor Rogers and council member alvarez. And I think it's, it's the same situation we don't want to be coming to you every six months saying, you know, we need these extensions they've been beneficial and we're really eager to work with council and city staff to come up with a longer term solution. One of the challenges is that it's just, it's so hard to market and promote a temporary program for parking, because if you if you put something out there today that says free parking on the weekends and then two months that free parking is gone, and someone pulls into the garage and they leave paying $5, they're going to be frustrated and, and it's just it's hard to work on that on that messaging. So that that's one of our challenges. But we are really eager to work with the district and city staff, but are unclear who from the parking district we should be working with right now. Mr Rivera, do you know that we were filled the vacancy in the parking district. I should know and I don't mean to put you on the spot. I don't believe we have yet as of yet. However, we will have a representative from the parking division of the December meeting addressing some of these concerns. Okay, the evening parking as well. Great. I appreciate that cadence, you know, I, it sounds like we might not be able to jump on this as quickly as I would like, but maybe it's the council considers an extension. During that next extension there's maybe some marching orders that can come from the council to the new director to come up with a financially balanced plan to help you accomplish those goals. Great. I'd be happy to continue talking about that to see how we can support that offline if that's helpful. Sure. Well, thank you so much. Those were my questions let's turn to public comment for item 3.2 are there any members of the public wishing to speak. There are Mr Yeager, I will go ahead and pull up the public comment screen and Mr Yeager, if you should be able to unmute and please confirm that you're able to see the timer. Thank you. Mr Yeager. Here we are. Okay, great. Just give me the right to unmute. I would say quite recently the city council voted in an urgency ordinance for making short term rentals hosted and unhosted legal in Santa Rosa and what that does is now bring a whole bunch of people who after we're registered. It brings a whole bunch of people that you are now connected with that can help keep visitors and people that we host downtown. And so I think some thoughts should be given to how do we make that connection. Previously I don't think there was any sort of organization or registration process for hosts, so there wasn't a way to reach all of them at once. But I think perhaps after registration, you'll have all of our contact details. The more we know about what's going on downtown, the more whether it's these things like the ice skating rink, new shops, new restaurants, we can support these businesses, not only by going and spending our own dollars downtown, but by directing the people that we host in our homes to go visit restaurants, go visit shops, go visit cafes. And so I don't know who the right person is to make that outreach to hosts. I don't work for the city, but I think it's just an idea like as I sit here I think I want to know more. And the more I know the more I can direct folks downtown. I thank you for your time. And I look forward to hearing more. Thank you, Mr. Yeager. Madam Secretary, do we have any other hands? We have no additional hands raised at this time. All right, I'll bring it back to the subcommittee. Council Member Sawyer, do you have any follow up questions or comments. Okay, seeing none from Council Member Sawyer I don't either. Caden, thank you so much. Okay, we will now, oops, I lost my agenda. We will move on to item 3.3 the public safety update on the agenda here it says we have Officer Travers. However, I don't know if we have, I'm seeing a chat chat box here saying we may have Sergeant Barrett. Yes, that's correct. Good morning everybody it is it is Sergeant Barrett today. Good morning. We have recently had the opportunity to meet with and work with members of the St. Rose neighborhood. Through working with them we're able to provide trespass letters to some of the businesses throughout the area, which have allowed us to address some of the trespassing issues that were a major concern for the citizens in the St. Rose neighborhood. We've also noted an increase of loitering around the fourth and D street area since the opening of the new Starbucks. They have free Wi-Fi and a lot of seeing there so it makes it an attractive spot for for people hang out and deposit trash and things like that. We've increased our routine security checks of the downtown area and in particular the fourth street area. We know that the late night window breaks and breakings have been an issue and despite our efforts still continues to be an issue that we're trying to address. It tends to occur in like the 3am to 5am hours, which is just a very low staffing time for us. The downtown enforcement team has continued to maintain a high low visibility downtown. We continue to utilize municipal code violations, as well as criminal arrests to help keep the downtown area free of crime. And we've also recently adjusted the hours of one of our teams. They're now coming in at 7 in the morning to address some of the issues and concerns with sleepers in front of the businesses in downtown and Bella Square area. And that's all the updates I have this time. Thank you, Sergeant. Council Member Slayer, do you have any questions? I don't check but thank you. Okay, neither do I. Let's turn to a public comment on item 3.3 of the public safety update. Any members of the public wishing to speak at this time? We have no raise hands at this time. Okay. Thank you very much, Sergeant Barrett. Appreciate you being here. And also I do want to say to the men and women that adjusted their schedules to come in a little bit earlier. Appreciate that a lot. Let's move to item 3.4 maintenance of courthouse square. We have Tim Finnegan, Parks Crew Superintendent. Please unmute. We're unable to hear you. We could move on to Tara Thompson and I'll see if I can sort out technical issue. That would be great. Thanks. Let's move to believe that's item 3.5. Hi, I'm sorry, it takes a minute to rejoin as a panelist, but I'm here. So I'm Tara Thompson, arts and culture manager, and I can provide an update on special event permits as well as the public art program. I did just this morning include a list of pending permits in the downtown area. So that is available for the public to view. I can also go ahead and share my screen just so we can take a little peek at it right now. So stand by just a second. I hope everyone can see that. See if I can make that a little bit bigger. That visible. Okay. So let's see, we have a little bit of an uptick in permits, at least we have since our last meeting in September. So we've had a few obviously that have happened between September and November 1. But this list is just showing what's what's current what's coming up through the end of the year. So currently in the square right now we have the Dia de los Muertos event, which was a two day event yesterday overnight last night and today. That is an event that has been in the square for many years, but had not been last year did not take place last year or in 2019 either. So it's great to have that back. We also have winter blast coming up this Saturday. That's in the sofa district, which is a great art fair and street festival in the artists studios as well as on festival out and south a street. And then as cadence mentioned the ice rink as a part of winter lights. That is an application on our list. We have a Santa Rosa turkey truck coming to downtown this year. This event has been up in Hillsburg previously, and it's now going to be starting out of courthouse square using the Santa Rosa Creek trail for an out and back 5k on Thanksgiving morning. And then our ongoing permit with the Metro Chamber of Commerce open and out has been extended through the end of this year to continue to allow the ongoing kind of activation and activities to support people coming back downtown using outside spaces. And they have a couple of upcoming events that are listed there throughout the rest of this month and December. So that's what we have right now in terms of our upcoming permits. So we're going to continue to update this list and provide it at the next meeting. Thank you, Tara. Councilmember story or do you have any questions. No questions just thanks Tara for your report and you know staying on top of these permits. It's I know it's a lot of work and it's much appreciated so thank you. Yes, thank you. Let's go ahead. Art update I can provide that as well. Before we do. Comments. So just quickly. I think since the last time I presented here the art and public places committee has approved the artist for the fifth street parking garage mural project. The artist team is called rough edge collective. It consists of San Rosa artist MJ lendo lawyer and Joshua lawyer and their proposal help each other grow will be installed early next year on the southwest corner of the parking garage. In the December meeting of the art and public places committee we accept expect to recommend the final list of words and phrases and languages for the unum sculpture for courthouse square to be approved by by the committee. The committee also approved casting and installing the assault panels on a new fountain in the square in bronze I mentioned that at the last update. And right now we expect to have the funding secured for this by the end of this month and then we will move forward with that casting process. The public places is excited to be implementing a new strategic plan, including working in smaller ad hoc task forces focused on diversity equity, inclusion and access engagement and project development and one of the projects coming out of the project development task forces working with the Santa Rosa forward team on the general plan update, and including working with artists to encourage diverse participation in upcoming outreach. I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you. Not seeing any questions from subcommittee members. Let's go to public comment on item 3.5. We have no raised hands at this time. Okay, we'll bring it back. Tara, thank you so much for that update. We'll see you next month and is Mr finnegan ready for 3.4. Yes, wonderful. Thank you. Sorry about the computer issues for some reason the audio wasn't coming through and so I had a log off log back in so I apologize for that. Good morning, Council chair tidbits and council member Sawyer. A few things to report on the main supplies. Since it's been a while since we've been able to get together. But I did conduct a inspection of the bunny bunny trees there last month to take a look at the cones on those the trees both in the courthouse square as well as Depot part. And to my surprise that the cone size was very small. They were basically a baseball size or softball size at this point. And so, given the size of it and given the cost associated with the equipment rental. I made the decision that doing the inspection at this point what would survive. It would be scheduled in two years to do another inspection and at that point I anticipate that we will be doing the harvesting of those cones. The, it just made sense given the size and that the threat of those cones coming free at this state was pretty minimal. I think that we were able to do inspect both sites in one day and I feel comfortable and confident as far as public safety around those trees that we are good for another two years. So that made me feel a lot better actually getting eyes on them and seeing what the condition is. And then doing this again in the future. So I was glad that took place there in September. Last week, as you heard last week, we did finish doing that the pruning at Depot Park. And surprisingly, as much light that we were able to bring into that area now is just, it's just phenomenal, just doing that that pruning so the lights can be put up, not a problem. We will continue to watch some of those trees. Those are pear trees that have some of them have that fire blight in those. And would be hate to have to remove those trees, but we'll just keep an eye on them moving forward. But hopefully the pruning does help those help the trees and the lights can be put up as planned. So last week, after the big storm that we that we received the Santa Rosa Creek, it came up for really quick and, unfortunately, or expectedly put a lot of the greenway underwater. And the past week, we spent a day there with cleaning the greenway, doing silk removal debris removal from the high waters. And so that's now all open and cleaned which is good but surprisingly how much water we got in such a short period of time and the level of the creek came up so there wasn't more damage than what we saw there. So it was good in that sense, but it just kind of caught us off guard. In the next few weeks, we will be scheduling or I will schedule with the electrical department, we will do a check of the lights for the Christmas tree down in Courthouse Square. And make sure that everything is functioning and when we push the button the lights will come on. I think sometimes as much time that you prepare for this you always worry about that one that one second that the lights don't come on but we will be prepared and we'll do everything we can to make sure those that does not happen the lights come on as scheduled. Secondly, just as a information we we have been taking part in a citywide parks assessment. Working with parks planning gen Santos and doing an assessment of all our parks included those parks that are in the downtown area Courthouse Square Fremont Depot Park, Ray Park. And then putting our input in and as far as the main side of it. And I believe that there's going to be a report that being presented to the city council here in the next month or two, regarding that assessment. I'm looking at all of our parks and where they're at as far as their maintenance level. And then I believe that the some discussion on funding and priorities related to that assessment. This is an overall look at all of our parks. And looking at everything kind of comparing things across the board so I think it will be the great information for everybody to take a look at so I guess I encourage everybody to watch the agendas as they come up and if when they see that to listen to it because I think it will give a really broad view of our parks and their conditions and give us some direction on on maintenance. So, that's my report. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Mr finnigan council member swear. Tim, regarding the Bunya Bunya trees is the smaller cones and indication of stress on the trees some lack of water. It's actually kind of bittersweet because if they don't have the really large cones. We have less of a an issue around them. You know, falling and hurting people. They've been assessed by an arborist to know whether or not this is this is a reflection of the weather. Or if it's just kind of a fluke where they came out smaller this year than the normal because I can't think of the last time that they were the size of softballs. So I'm just curious if they've been assessed. And if there's any anything that we need to do, whether it be of course now we're moving into to rain which is which is great. But just it's just it's a concern of mine that they may be under stress and therefore smaller cones. I mean, we have not had them assessed by arborist. And through, you know, the work that I've done and the research I've done of the trees that that's a very, very possible reason for the size of the cones is that they are under a little bit of stress. The trees themselves the vegetation. If they look healthy. There's no signs of stress within the plant itself, but it could be just that portion of it the development of the cones could be stress related. And that's the only thing that I could really link it to is the drought. But probably through my connections, it probably wouldn't hurt for me to get more information on that. Just to make sure because we hate to lose those trees or end up, you know, being a symptom of something bigger. And so it would be something that I would definitely like to follow up and I can report that back at the next meeting, the new information just kind of gets put our minds at rest or knowing what's actually happening out there. Well, I appreciate that. And I think your assessment is probably accurate. I mean, if the tree, if the crown and the rest of the foliage on the tree trees look reasonably healthy, I'm sure it takes a lot of energy to produce those large cones. And if there's less water, probably, you know, it's the tree is going to respond to that. So you might even be able to wait until next year and see if there's a trend in the cones. I'm just wondering if, if, if indeed it's a moisture issue that we, because I doubt that they're being irrigated by I don't I doubt there's irrigation on those trees. I wouldn't think given their age. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, usually, you know, trees are, we try to promote just them surviving on their own and not feeding them water, just because that's the tree's nature. If you give them too much water, you don't get the root development and these are well established tree. Yeah, that's true. There's no water currently on those trees. Yeah, I would hope not. We probably create more of a problem by watering them like people that have lawns on their below their valley oaks, and this creates root rot. I'm pleased they're not being irrigated. But like I said, you might, you know, you might be able to wait until next year and see if the counts are any larger or, or of the same size and that would indicate maybe more of a trend and then perhaps to have them evaluated then I think with the rains coming now we'll probably be in pretty good shape. Great. Thanks council member slaughter. Thanks Mr finnegan let's move to public comment for item 3.4 any members of the public wishing to speak. Public comment at this time. Okay, seeing none we'll bring it back. Thank you so much, Tim. And that should be our last item for the day. Thanks for taking this opportunity to adjourn. Thanks, everybody. Thank you. Thanks for having a day. Thanks.