 be more proud as a husband. It's very impressive and I heard traffic was pretty bad because it was sold out type of thing, but I heard it went really well. So I was long asleep by the time she came home. Yeah, things are going good. I know in OTAs we spoke and I didn't wanna put a timeline of anything, I'm still not gonna do that, but I'm not doing Indy now and I'm taking some reps here and there and I feel great, I feel like the exact same person. I had an amazing team that I put together when it came to my leg and those people I completely trusted and they did not let me down. So I have a newfound appreciation for the game and I definitely feel like I'm back to my normal self, if not a little bit better. It's hard at this point to stay patient given the field. What's that? Yeah, no, I mean, in these types of things that we have a great training staff and our coaches, they have a great line of communication. For me, yeah, I'd love to be out there. I'd love to go take the plays, but they're integrating me slowly and it's great to know that they care and they're gonna put me in the right position and not compromise anything going into the season. So barring anything, there's gonna be no issues. Week one is not gonna be a problem. I feel great. Do you need preseason work to get ready for the season or are you at stage or career where you just step right in and feel like it's going? I mean, a preseason's like a practice, you know what I'm saying? And I don't know how things change with three preseason games compared to four. For me, practice and preseason is the same exact thing I'm just wearing a real uniform versus not a real uniform. And so I'm excited to get out here and start taking team reps and just, I'm just excited, I've never been in my life excited to practice. And I'm, I come out here, I'm just stoked to get a man reach, you know, I'm stoked to do a pass set. And it's just, I'm just really happy with where I'm at and I'm really lucky and fortunate to be as healthy as I am. Kelly, you said you have a newfound appreciation for the game. What did you miss most in that time that you were away? I miss the boys. I miss, I miss playing. I miss, I mean, it's crazy. It's stupid, but you miss practice. You miss being, I remember waking up like two days after we got here, because me and Roger came in here early to help some of the rookies out. And obviously, start getting some good rehab and getting on the field. And I woke up like two days later, my legs are sore and I'm like stoked about it. You know, it's just nice to feel the pains and the football and, you know, getting calloused back up. I missed it all. And I think a lot of people will see that in my game this year is just how much I, you know, I've always cared, I've always played hard, but you know, I've never had an injury before. You know, I've been hurt, but I've never, I never had surgery before in my life. I've never been under the knife. I got my tonsils out when I was 21. It's a whole different deal, but I've never had a real injury. And so this going through that process, going through points where you're like, am I ever going to be the same person again? You know, you're relearning how to walk, you're relearning how to strengthen. Am I going to be strong enough to play this game again? It's kind of like a, you know, there's a lot of ebbs and flows, not only physically, but emotionally as well. And so I had to go through a lot of that. And I'm just really appreciative to be where I'm at right now. Do you guys ever feel unstoppable, invincible? Everybody's human, Paul. Um, I mean, no, I mean, I think there's, there's games last year that, um, you know, teams did a really good job of, you know, edge walling and swarming and getting to the ball carrier. And so there's the success we've had in the recent years with Derek is awesome. And it's, it's a great thing. But at the end of the day, you can't rely on your past successes every year is a new year. And that's a, it's, you got to keep the momentum going and keep building off that. We know we can do it, but it doesn't mean we're going to do it. We have to start working towards that. And we've been doing that in camp and it's early, but, um, you know, these guys, we know what our goal is and we know what we want to accomplish. And I think that, um, no one's taking anything for granted. No one just says, oh, we're going to walk out there week one and do, you know, roll over the car. It's not, that's not how this game works. You start getting comfortable. That's when you start getting bashed in and the Cardinals are very capable of doing that. Taylor, you mentioned all the ebbs and flows that you had, you know, physically and emotionally going through the rehab and whatnot. What kind of, I mean, there's a lot of things that I did. It's kind of when you don't only have a choice when it comes to an injury, you're either, I mean, there's days you get out of, you know, wake up and you really don't want to do anything. It sucks. Getting out of bed sucks. You're in pain. Even when you're three, four months in, you're like, why the hell am I still feeling like this? And so, you know, it was just kind of every day is a new day. You got to keep grinding forward. I had this book that I wrote in every single day of, you know, what I want to accomplish, what I want to manifest. And then obviously what I'm grateful for and those kind of things helps you reset. And there was definitely a lot of resetting because there was a lot of downs. And, but this up, it just feels great to be out here talking to you guys. I've been looking forward to even speaking to y'all. And that's, that's a bit of a weird deal. What's the last year you've said you were going to cut out the penalties? You're next. You're coming up next. And you did. How proud were you that you did and how confident were you that you could have kept that together through 16 games? Yeah. You know, it's five games, no penalties, no sacks. You know, with my track record, it could have turned around real fast. We could have gotten to game six and it could have been three, you know what I'm saying? And now the fans are pissed. And, you know, so it's just being cautious and being mind-filled and playing on that edge. I think it's really important. My game is high energy, bring it to them type of mentality and finish through the whistle. And sometimes there's some occupational hazards with the yellow flag. Yeah, it's just being aware of that and trying not to hurt your team. Yeah, what do you think? Let's do this. Yeah, you've been waiting. I got two of them. Oh, shit. Yeah. What are you seeing right now from the sideline from this offensive line? And has your role grown, changed at all in terms of mentoring, especially the younger guys? Yeah, I mean, for a while now, my goal has been I'm not going to be the guy that sits in front of the team and gives this elaborate speech about, you know, nine times out of 10, you're not going to beat these guys. I'm not the miracle guy, you know what I'm saying? But if I can take a guy over to the side and help him out with, you know, Pass Pro, how his punch looks, when to punch, like if you do it for a long enough time and have success that I've had, it's nice to help those guys. And so I don't know if it's developed anymore. I just appreciate doing it more because not being around sucks, man. It sucks watching games on the TV and it's just nice to be here and be able to help and be able to help these young guys like Dylan and Chandan and Cole, these guys that came in. And, you know, I remember being a rookie, it's tough, you know, you're flying around everywhere, a guy like Keith's a high energy coach. He demands the best out of us for good reason and everyone's held to that standard. And so it can kind of get away from you sometimes, like, you know, you have all these things piled on top of you, you don't know really how we play or how we practice. And it's hard to, this is a hard place to practice at. You know, these coaches expect a lot out of us. And so taking a guy over, helping him out and realizing like you're going to get a barrage of things to focus on each practice, like take one or two things and go fix that. And then the next day, go fix the next thing. And so it's just chipping away. And so I don't know how much it's developed, but helping out is definitely going to make this team better. And that's really the main goal, right? It's gotten a lot better, man. It's gotten a whole lot better. I think there was some resistance from me in the beginning of our relationship and you know, I was, I went scratching and clawing the whole way, but I think, you know, his standard and the way what he's held us to has shown a lot in the success that we've had. Hate saying that out loud, but he was right. And so I think I have a lot more appreciation for Keith and what he demands out of us. It's allowed us to go out there and play the way we do as an offensive line. And there's always, there's a lot of things we can do better, but you know, there's a consistency of everyone wants to get better every day. No one's coming out here and just going through the motions. Keith won't let that happen. Hey, you go from a guy like Russ Grimm, who's just kind of, you know, relaxed guy, chilling all the time, maybe has a beer at night in the morning kind of do, you know, relaxing. And then Keith's a high strung dude and you're like, it's just a big change. You know, I've never done a very good job with authority and he's definitely an authoritative figure. And so that was a hard thing for me to handle. And, you know, that's just being as candid as possible. But, you know, I really appreciate Keith and what he's done for this team and especially for this offensive line. We've gone, we went from, you know, we were pretty good offensive line when Keith got in and now we have an opportunity to be a much better offensive line now. From a size, weight standpoint, what's the balance like in wanting to be big and sturdy, but also wanting to be lean and being able to be athletic and move well? And we are, yeah. It takes a lot to look this average, Jim. There's a lot that goes into it. Eating clean as possible, knowing what your weight's supposed to be at. I know where my comfort zone is. I'm not the biggest guy in the world, but, you know, I have other attributes that help me out. And so, you know, it's a process. Keeping weight on for me is a process and it can get difficult at times, but I'd rather have it this way than the other way around where I can't lose a pound to save my life. If you lost playoff games in your career, but this year or last year- Great way to start that question. Last year of the Ravens game, you didn't play. A lot of your teammates have talked about how much that game hurt them. For you to not be able to be out there in that game, how much did that loss hurt you? I heard a lot. I mean, that was the first football game I've ever been to in my life as a spectator. And it was just weird being there. You know, it was just weird watching the guys warm up and thinking I should be out there and you're sitting with your family and kids. And it's like, they're not paying attention. They're talking. I'm like, we need to be focused on that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're almost like, guys, you need to focus up, you know, type of thing. It's kind of a weird deal. That was the first game I've ever been to in my life. I think college or NFL, like, as a spectator and all the games we lost hurt. Watching those things, a game like Cleveland where things just didn't seem like it was going right at all. You just sit in this chair, your legs up. You're doing your rehab while you're watching and you're just wishing you can be out there to help out. And so, yeah, it sucks. Losing sucks every single time. Some of the guys have said that without you being out there, there's kind of not a lack, but a different energy. For you, is that something that you bring naturally? Is that what you make an effort to do? And where does that derive from? It's just juice, man. It's like before coming out here practicing is never the most fun thing in the world, but games are awesome. You got millions of people watching you and you have an opportunity to put something on film that everyone around the league is going to judge you for. And I just love playing football. I love taking a guy to the sidelines and throwing him to our sidelines. And guys getting hyped up. I love when dudes are getting touchdowns, weird stupid cellies. I'm all about it. So I don't know what that comes from. I think when I was in high school, I was like a nose tackler, like a detackler. I was trash. And this kid, I put it on YouTube. I'm thinking I'm going to get a scholarship offer or something like that. And some kids post that. Taylor Lawan's never in shape. He goes hard once every four players, something like that, like he was a teammate of mine. And I always remember that. And I was like, I'm never going to let myself be the guy that can't finish because of a lack of something I can control. And that's, yeah, I just I think it's really important to be in shape and show that. As a guy that's been around, it's one of the leaders on this team. Is that something you pay attention to? Or you just pull back? Like the fans being excited? Well, I'm excited. I think there's a lot of opportunity here. But it's kind of what can you do? There's all this, we could do this, we could do that. But the other day, it doesn't mean anything until we do it. And so you have to temper those expectations and realize that we have to put these blocks down and move forward and get these pre-season games done and get stuff cleaned up. And things aren't perfect. It's definitely not perfect out here right now. And that's what we're capable of. And that's our goal to be that week one and sustain that. I think that's been a thing. Being here in 14 and 15, there weren't a lot of hope around here, you know what I'm saying? There was guys in November planning their vacations and stuff like that. And you look around, you're like, holy, this is a bit of a deal. And to be able to experience that in 14 and now be here in 21, we got guys, we got names of people we didn't have before. We got dudes that are capable of being some of the best players in the NFL at their position. And that's awesome to talk about. It's super cool in July and June. But August, it's like we got to put up our shut up now. It's like it's time to go. Good? Thanks, guys.