 Week four and daily fantasy football football was a slate of getting answers We got to see what Alvin Camaro would look like with Derek Kara quarterback We got to see this Chargers offense No, Mike Williams got to see Devon HN Maybe steal a bit more work in that backfield for the Dolphins so some questions were answered But also a lot of key questions still linger like will the Bengals ever turn things around our job for today To go back through what we saw week number four identify Guys whose stock went up guys whose stock went down and take a look forward to week number five in the NFL as well But breaking down salaries on the Fandall main slate welcome on into the heat check fantasy podcast That's right here on the Fandall podcast network. My name is Jim Sonnis I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research here to recap week number four in the NFL and break down key takeaways For NFL DFS and look forward to week five as well before we dive in here want to give you a quick reminder To make sure you are subscribed to the number fire daily fantasy podcast feed wherever you get your podcast No more solo shop because the regular season is done But still have twice weekly NFL shows right here on Monday and Thursday Thursday with Brandon Gadoula and myself And of course Austin Swain talking USC when they have carts as well all right here in the number fire daily fantasy Podcast feed the heat check going up on Fandall TV plus and the Fandall YouTube page as well to get Fandall TV plus Go to Fandall commas slash watch it log into Fandall account or check out Fandall TV plus on Amazon fire Apple TV or Roku devices Snap into action this NFL season with Fandall America's number one sportsbook right now New customers get $200 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place a $5 bet That's $200 in bonus bets win or lose if you've been thinking about joining Fandall There's no better time to get in on the action. 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Fandall comm gambling problem call 1-800 gambler or visit Fandall comm slash RG in Colorado Iowa, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Tennessee and Virginia Call 1-800 next step or text next step to 5 3 3 4 2 in Arizona 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org such that Connecticut 1-800-9 with it in Indiana 1-800-522-4700 visit ksgamblinghealth.com in Kansas 1-877-770 stop in Louisiana visit MD gambling health at Oregon, Maryland 1-800-gambler.net in West Virginia call 1-800-522-4700 in Wyoming Hope is here visit gambling helpline ma.org Or call 1-800-327-5050 or 247 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8 Hope and Y or text Hope and Y in New York Now our headliner for this week is not a good one It is about the Bengals because they were facing the Titans on Sunday and another rough outing for Joe Burrow and this offense they score just three points against a secondary that's Gotten beaten up both last year and this year Joe Burrow averaged negative point two three passing that expected points per drop back in this game again League average there is around 0.0 or 0.1. Typically it's been lower this year on 0.06 So either way a rough one NEP is number fires expected points added model and we're not good for burrow there And also T Higgins he got hurt left the broken rib and it sounds like he probably will miss time as a result so In theory we'd love to avoid the Bengals because we don't want to deal with the team that's struggling Especially when the salaries on that team are typically very high But they face the Cardinals next week and not having T Higgins there does open up a lot of usage on this team Jamar Chase led the team with nine targets on Sunday He has a 29% target share for the season Tyler Boyd is at 19% He had seven targets on Sunday Just one target from Joe Nixon But I wouldn't be shocked if Nixon gets more work in the passing game with Higgins missing time So Chase obviously is a stud He had a 37% target share and gains where Higgins out or limited last year But Higgins being out hurts Joe Burrow and hurts his offense as a whole because T Higgins Despite we've seen so far this year is a very good player So you downgrade burrow upgrade Jamar Chase upgrade Tyler Boyd and it might come out as a wash for Joe Nixon So let's take a look here at week number five and bring up the salaries over at Fandall calm What we play things here is plain name that salary and I Name a salary. I think would be fair for a certain player And if the salary in reality is lower that means they're a good value if it's higher Might be a tougher cells trying to get a gauge in where I'd put these guys so you can get a gauge on whether or not I'm above market relative to salary over at Fandall calm I think for Jamar Chase when you take away T Higgins his salary is 82 on Sunday I thought it was a bit low not the best game by any means but Still a bit low. I thought given that matchup his talent and stuff like that So I'd say for Jamar Chase Probably eighty seven hundred dollars is appropriate for him. His salary is eighty seven on the bud Okay, so Jamar Chase is a fair value Tyler Boyd with no T Higgins Still not going to be the highest upside guy by any means because he's not a real deep threat But should get good overall work good matchup So I would say probably sixty three hundred or so for Tyler Boyd to be a good number. He is at I Need a scroller to me Tyler 62 so not a huge value there on boyd. Maybe a bit of value there mixin Hasn't been efficient this year the workloads been pretty good. I would say probably seven thousand flat or so it's a good matchup Yeah, it's seven thousand flat So seems like I'm very in line at the Bengals across board checking Joe burrow. He's at seven thousand flat as well So maybe you want to get to a burrow chase stack because burrow helps offset the salary and chase a bit But I think to me chase is kind of the one guy where you really really want to get there The good thing is it's a good matchup. We are getting reduced salaries on burrow boyd mixin. It's not too bad there. So It's a bummer you love to avoid a team that's struggling as much as the Bengals are right now But I think at those salaries no T Higgins likely It's probably gonna force us to at least give them thoughts on Sunday against Cardinals So we'll be talking about this team on Thursday. I am sure Let's discuss some other injuries across the NFL from Sunday Jivante Williams left Sundays game with a hip injury Sounds like he may not miss time, but let's talk about this regardless with no Williams in their Samajie PR I lead and snaps, but Julia McLaughlin was effective McLaughlin had seven carries and three targets and he turned that into a hundred and four yards in scrimmage Two of those targets were inside the red zone for McLaughlin as well We saw him get a goal line carry a couple weeks We have even with Williams being healthy Now the concern here is do they trust McLaughlin to pass block because coaches love PRine for that and They were in a negative script in this one. That's why PRine likely played a lot of snaps They might not be in a negative script against the Jets next week but still an issue because you want to make sure a guy has a path to playing a lot of snaps and We've also seen that even with a guy being affected like McLaughlin was that's not a guarantee That we see an increased snap rate for a guy like McLaughlin based on what we've seen from Marvin Mims Where they just do not expand his role at all. So I Think McLaughlin would be the preferred guy for TFS over PRine because PRine is probably not gonna get you a lot of upside I would still need McLaughlin's salary to be pretty low in order to justify using him Next week if we were to assume Williams were to miss that game. I think it probably need to be like 62 or so $100 57 is actually the number For McLaughlin. So if there's no Williams, maybe we could consider McLaughlin Total for that game is low at 40 and a half, which makes sense for the Jets and the Broncos I think that'd be worth looking into just because he can't get some work in the passing game as a past catcher At least maybe not as a as a blocker He got some work towards the goal line so 57 at least be intriguing but I really don't like this team. I think their market shares are abysmal especially at at the past catchers We know they don't trust the rookies to get a full workload here So still a bit skeptical of McLaughlin, even if Williams does miss time even with a low salary $5,700 Kenny Pickett suffered a knee injury on Sunday and did not return Pat Frymuth also ruled out with a hamstring injury Mitchell Trubisky came on and relieved a picket and last year When Trubisky is playing he was at 0.06 passing that expected points per drop back That was actually better than Pickett at 0.02 Trubisky also had a higher a dot Than pickets two yards longer actually the pickets. So that does not mean it's an upgrade for the offense They were starting picket for a reason and I think that they should be starting pickets So it's a slight downgrade, but it's more lateral I would say than a true downgrade for this team as for the Frymuth portion George Pickens led the team with seven targets He's at a 28% target share in three games without Deontay Johnson and Johnson still at least one more game on IR So one more game with Pickens being the lead guy for this offense. So Depending on the salary, I could see maybe being into Pickens next week. They get Baltimore That game low total Pittsburgh's implied total is 18 and a half So not the best game environment, but a very good target share for Pickens And we know Trubisky will push it so the gaffet a little bit which is intriguing for sure for a wide receiver So I'd say Pickens probably $6,800 or so is appropriate for him. He's 65. That's not bad. So George Pickens $6,500 not a bad look Forward next week just because he's been getting a lot of work with no Deontay Johnson Trubisky will throw it deep a bit So I think there's enough there to consider Pickens next week, even if we assume there's no picket Just because of the way things line up there in the low salary on Pickens Mike Evans ruled out Sunday with a hamstring injury and did not return Pretty big bummer because Mike's been playing very very well But it led to a big big big day for Chris Godwin He had 11 targets three of those were at least 16 hours downfield He had two in the red zone Tray Palmer and 28 routes Kate Odden was a 27 Palmer Just three targets for six yards though on 13 yards. So It's pretty clear Chris Godwin is the guy who gets the biggest bump And I need Palmer salary to be pretty low to buy in on him, but this does Downgrade the entire team if Evans does miss time. Now the lucky thing for them is that they have a buy So Evans you want to get healthy because he has been fantastic so far this year a contract season for him If Evans does miss time, I'll be very very into Godwin But hopefully Mike Evans back after the buy for the Buccaneers and good to go Let's talk now about some roll updates from week number four talk about some guys who? Saw their roles change in week number four The big thing here for week number four was Alvin Camara making his 2023 debut and my goodness did he get good usage for the Saints on Sunday 11 carries and 14 targets The 14 targets led to just 33 yards feel the eight suited on Twitter This is actually a historic low for a guy with 13 receptions and Camara had just 84 yards for the game But he had both of the other teams to red zone chances Which is a big thing for him because we know taste and hill can get worked there Rashid Shahid had seven targets six for Michael Thomas and six for Chris Olava as well I think a lot of Thomas will still get their work for sure Just probably not the double-digit targets. We saw the first three games for Olava Because they've got one more mouth in the mix here Shahid is good enough to keep getting working with Camara being in play so next week New Orleans goes on the road to face the New England Patriots and With Camara, he's gonna get a lot of passing game work play 75 80% of the snaps low scoring game pretty tough defense on the opposing side I would say that salary for Camara should probably be around $7,500 and it is at 71. So not a bad value for next week and Alva Camara Given all the things working at play here you consider the matchup And I think 71 is not a bad number So we do have read the concerns about case and hill for sure You can always swoop in and steal a touchdown towards the goal line But even considering that I think Alva Camara is going to be a guy We'll want to keep an eye on next week as a potential DFS quasi value play at $7,100 other big notes from yesterday's game was that Isaiah Pacheco Set a new career high in snap rate last night. He was a 64% last night. His previous career high was 57% in the conference championship game last year 20 carries three targets for 158 yards And as always Pacheco looked really good doing that and a 64% snap rate for Pacheco is a significant shift He is still going to lose a lot of work to Jerick McKinnon in the passing game because McKinnon they love them on third and long stuff like that but Pacheco has multiple targets in every game So far this year the chiefs are on the road facing the Vikings next week one of the best games in the slate It is the highest total on the main slate and if Pacheco is going to play a 60% snap rate that's going to be pretty hard to ignore So to me, I think Pacheco's salary should probably be around $7,000 or so it's a pretty big increase in where it was previously and we look at Pacheco right now He's 66. I think that's a good value. So If you want low thyroid exposure to that chiefs Vikings game I think it's gonna be via Isaiah Pacheco six six hundred dollars for him given the work that he got in that game given how effective he has been and Cheese need playmakers Pacheco can be that so Isaiah Pacheco I think going to be a key value in week number five in that very fun matchup with the Minnesota Vikings Isaiah Pacheco stuck up based on we saw in week number four Dosh Palmer got in pretty good work in his first game with no Mike Williams Palmer led the team at 77 yards. Nobody else had more than 32 eight total targets for Palmer Three of those were deep also in targets and deep targets Quinton Johnston ran a good number of routes But earned just three targets in this game Donald Parham left the game with a wrist injury But Gerald Everett still did not have an every down roll so I had snitched never it's with with big Mike being out But still not enough there to go to Everett as a tight end They will add Austin Eckler back after their bye week, which will be good for this offense But I do like Palmer alongside Keenan Allen quite a bit We did we would downgrade him with Eckler being there exactly where it's targets, but I Think Palmer would still be a guy probably in the mid-6,000 range I'd be willing to look to in DFS and as for Quinton Johnston I need to see him earn targets once Eckler is back before I buy in so Pretty impressed with Josh Palmer, but still not there on Quinton Johnston base And that will see what they do after their buy this week Devon a Chan had another big game on Sunday eight carries and five targets for 120 yards He had five out of 11 red zone chances for the team. He also had staff where he mostard 66% to 41% It is worth noting that a Chan got more work in the fourth quarter is 55-year run came I think his first play the fourth quarter game wasn't done necessarily at that point, but I Think he's just playing too well to sit right now the complicating issue with a Chan is that next week? Jeff Wilson can come back off IR and it sounds like he probably will so I thought an appropriate sigh for a Chan last week after his huge game What $7,000 he came in at 64 so liked that quite a bit Now he said another big game where he out snapped mosters and played very well again But we had Jeff Wilson back in the mix So when you consider all those moving parts next week Miami is at home based on the Giants nine and a half point favorites I would say a good salary for a Chan is probably gonna wind up being $7,500 it might be a bit high But I think 75 is appropriate for a Chan and he's 75 on the bud So I can't disagree with that at all I think that is kind of what he's worth at this point given the red zone work given the effectiveness given the offense I think 75 is appropriate. So Devon a Chan Probably a guy will be on again next week at that salary in that matchup against the Giants on Sunday David Montgomery Dominated touches in his return for the Detroit Lions 32 carries and two targets Montgomery had 12 out of 18 red zone chances for the Lions Jameer Gibbs eight carries and five targets Honestly, that's not an awful workload for a back just not enough to make him usable for DFS Montgomery though is going to be and He's gonna be viable in the spots where we like this Detroit rushing offense now next week. They get Carolina Probably a spot where we want to be in on David Montgomery in this team They also gave us in Williams back this week So the Detroit offense may be a bit more efficient if they're not what they've already been thus far Based on that workload I think Montgomery Probably should settle in around 73 I'd want a bit more passing game work to go above that but 73 since appropriate from Montgomery and he is $8,500. Wow, okay. I Guess I get it. He had three touchdowns, but I Want more passing game work to pay 85 for a guy. So that's way too high for me I probably will not be there on Montgomery. Maybe that bites me. He can have three touchdown games But a little bit high for me given the fact that he's probably not gonna get a lot of work in the passing game So I thought I might be in a Montgomery. I no longer think that because salary does matter quite a bit Deandre Swift pulled away from Kenneth Gainwell a bit this week for the Eagles Swift played a 64% of the snaps Gainwell was at 37% Swift had 14 carries and four targets. He also had three out of seven red zone chances I've been worried that Gainwell might keep mixing in for key situations and he will to an extent, but I think this game was a boost for Swift in my eyes in that It wasn't as big of a detriment to have Gainwell in there as I thought it may be Eagles next week taking on the Rams. That's gonna be a fun game for daily fantasy. Also a West Coast game So finally some some Sunday afternoon hammers we can feel good about Eagles five and a half point favorites total is 47 and a half. I think that with Swift pulling away a bit from Gainwell I think that we can now put that salary around 74 because he is in an efficient offense We know that Jalen Hertz opens up rushing lanes for a running back. So I think when you weigh all those factors 74 for Swift is a good salary. It's our 77. That's not terrible And I think that's low enough where when you're stacking that game. That's Rams Rams Eagles game. I think Swift is in play at that number. So Deandre Swift got a bump up for me Not a value by any means of 77 but still a guy I'd be willing to go to for next week in daily fantasy taking on the Rams The Bears finally had a positive game script and Clial Herbert was their clear lead back in that setup He had 18 carries and five targets with a 79% snap rate He also had three out of six red zone chances for this team They're playing Washington next week at six and a half point dogs on the road Washington's rush defense the struggle quite a bit so far this year if they can keep that game close You'd expect Herbert to be pretty involved with that offense But it's always gonna be a question of whether or not they will it was good to see Justin Fields played better on Sunday Maybe that means they can have more neutral or positive scripts for Herbert But for right now in that Thursday game that could still be a bit dicey Passing offense did come back to life here with no chase Claypool DJ more and Cole commit both had nine targets Both had two deep targets both had some touchdowns and part of it could be the Broncos defense But it was something it's it was life from the Bears, which is what we're kind of looking for They faced Washington Thursday at the tougher test even though they've also struggled so far this year I am still skeptical that this improvement will stick here for the Bears because It's been a large sample of this offense struggling to throw the ball effectively So her words the one guy willing to bump up more than a tiny bit based on what we saw on Sunday I think for more and can that's Not really wanting to overreact especially given they're facing a defense that's been in a really bad place so far this year The Rams said this week They wanted to get Kyron Williams a couple more breathers can you know get take some work office play They they kind of did kind of did kind of didn't Williams snap rate down to 73% this week But he still had 25 carries and three targets a tremendous workload, and he also had four out of seven red zone chances, so I'm still status quo on Williams and status quo is a good thing for him. It's liking him quite a bit I liked him a lot at 76 this past week next week facing the Eagles tough tough defensive line there for sure But I think if you were to put Williams at 8,000 I wouldn't really ruffle at that too much, and he is at 78 there enough. I think that makes a lot of sense. So Kyron Williams Probably gonna be on the map once again heading into week number five Christian Kirk got fed this week for the Eagles. He let her for the Jags He led them with 12 targets Calvin really had just two in this game across four games now Kirk leads with a 25% target share Calvin Ridley is at 20% and he's actually behind Evan Engram who is at 21% Ridley does hold the edge in terms of deep targets and red zone targets So it's a lot of high leverage work for Ridley all things considered I would still rank Ridley above Kirk, but they are a 1a 1b right now And honestly as Zade Jones keeps missing time Evan Engram will continue to be in play too. So Jags not in the main slate next week taking on Buffalo in London again So not in the main slate, but I think it's a good game for Kirk Still do you want to make sure I keep eyes on Ridley because he's been pretty solid a guy I don't want to write off just because a couple of downgates from a target perspective Cam Eggers made his debut for the Vikings on Sunday and did eat in to Alexander Madison's workload a bit Madison played a season low 66% of the snaps He had four targets each of his first three games But he had just one here, but Acres ran just four routes compared to Madison's nine and the Vikings didn't throw it all Don't think they trusted Kirk Cousins a ton after that that pick six early on so I Think Madison is still going to be the lead guy here, but he's not efficient So any dip in work is going to be rough because he kind of needs all the work He can get in order to be viable for daily fantasy So I'll take Madison and downgrade him was not in on him in week number four to begin with But I think that we're just there are too many concerns of Acres being there It'll be the lead guy, but I need it to be like an every down featured back to be really really high on him given Not the most explosive player by any means Sheba Hubbard eight inch mile Sanders workload, which may have been because Sanders is dealing with a groin injury He came in questionable to this game Hubbard out snapped Sanders and had five out of 11 red zone chances It's enough for me to not consider Sanders right now But I'm not in on a Hubbard either just because Don't really want to deal with that next week Carolina facing Detroit on the road negative game script Probably looking more at the passing game there than either of the backs Finally Dalton Kincaid did separate a bit from Dawson Knox this week because the bills didn't run as many two tight end sets Kincaid ran a route on 20 of 27 drop-backs only Stefan Diggs ran more Dawson Knox ran 13 routes Kincaid second on the team with five targets, but still not getting him downfield work his eight out there was 4.1. So You do wish that Knox or that Kincaid would get more downfield work. So I think he can do that We know that Josh Allen definitely can but still bumping him up because routes run were there Separated from Knox a little bit and the talent should be there eventually So I would say Kincaid still in play for daily fantasy bumping him up a bit as a result of what we saw Where he was the primary tight end in that game That's gonna wrap up the roll updates for this week So let's take a look forward to week number five pull up the salaries over at fanduel.com on the main slate I've already spoiled a lot of them because we were doing a lot of name that salaries for this week Let's start things off at quarterback and we see Patrick Mahomes at 92 in that premier game taking on the Vikings No objections there, but Jalen Hertz is 86 again Hertz in a fun matchup to on the road against LA He's also indoors also facing a team that can put up points. Frankly. I'm a bit confused as to why There's such a big gap between Mahomes and Hertz in terms of salary Hertz has not been fantastic So far this year, but I mean Mahomes had his issues too. So I think that Hertz 86 probably gonna be the better play over Mahomes because the salary savings are pretty enticing there Anthony Richardson salary up to 83 makes total sense Russian touchdown every game so far this year passing productivity from like a volume perspective was not there on sunday But so I got the job done. Uh, so Richardson 83. I think that makes a lot of sense I had previously been saying he was a guy who didn't have the highest ceiling because the passing wasn't there But he didn't have a high floor because of the rushing I still think that's kind of the case, but um If I see a bit more efficiency like we saw on sunday in the passing department, maybe I'll change my two in the Richardson. I thought he's a graded 76 83 is higher for sure, but still a lot totally totally out of play there To a tongue of Iloa 8000 taking on the Giants that script will be pretty positive So that might be more of an h-hand spot than it is for tongue of Iloa, but 8000 is not too bad For him scrolling down further. I think the the one issue we'll have here is Do you want to say a salary quarterback when you have Mahomes and Hertz in somewhat competitive games with a spread of five and a half You've also got Anthony Richardson again 83 two at 8000 So is this a slate where you actually want to spend down? I would say probably not don't mind CJ Stroud at 72 I think that's Kind of fun given that he's actually in a decent matchup with Atlanta for this week coming back from london I want to see what Larry Tuntl status is if he gets back, maybe we can upgrade Texans as a whole Joe burrow seven thousand taking on the Almost of the dime backs the cardinals Maybe you can justify spending down but for me personally I think it's more about the stud quarterbacks on this slate because we got three of them three or four maybe five even and The salaries for them are not all that bad No christian mccaffrey at running back in week five because he is on the sunday night game So highest salary guy here is Derek Henry and my goodness. What a weird looking slate This is at running back where There's no mccaffrey. I don't think there's any Pollard. Yeah, no Pollard next week No Echler. It's an odd slate to be sure so I think it's kind of interesting to see that bijan robinson is 82 Taking on houston in that game and robinson's workload has been fantastic, especially from week two on He's been getting in the exact kind of workload that you want I had my issues with the the fact that tyler algear was getting work initially, but 82 for bijan is not that bad. Let me pull up the the numbers for robinson so far Yeah, so far the yard systems for robinson have been 83 172 60 and 137 He doesn't get all the work in the red zone, which can be pretty annoying, but For $8,200 that's kind of hard to to nitpick there So I think that bijan robinson might finally be a guy We can turn to and feel really good about for this week. No touchdowns the past three games, but still 19.2 8 and 16.2 fandall points 82 is pretty low for a guy with his talent and his workload It's going down further mentioned. I guess john the taylor coming back this week 70 400 dollars facing the titans think that's a good excuse not to use him Just because it's a it's a tough match up there chimera 71 I think bacheco 66 is going to be pretty interesting Early on in that game last night brice hall was playing an increased snap share for the jets now They didn't run many plays in the second half and a lot of plays they did run were in like a two minute drill You know right before halftime so hall snap right actually wound up being in the mid 40s, but It seems like they're kind of wanting to increase his workload He tours acl. I believe it was in this game last year taking on the broncos in denver So maybe get a little narrative play there. You know, they want to boost him back up In the spot where he had that tough injury last year 65 is kind of high for a narrative though So I think definitely more on pacheco than I am on brice hall james connor 65 did get his workload scaled back a bit this week dame arcado worked in more for the cardinals But it was also a really tough spot Taking on the 49ers. They're facing the Bengals next week connor sariot 65 is not too bad and i'm not Really a james connor guy just because the passing game work is not great Doesn't have the biggest yardage upside in general, but that number is low enough where it's at least, you know, not totally totally off the map there Scrolling down further i'm not seeing a lot of guys in the sixth the low six thousand range really grabbed my attention We're in the high fives right now And don't see a whole lot there either. So to me At least right now it's looking like the Slate at wider at running back is shaping up around the the second tier bjohn robinson 82 Kyrie millen 78 de under swift 77 h hand 75 chimera 71 pacheco 66 I think that mid-range at running back, especially pacheco Going to be the primary obviously turned to when it comes to week number five Shifting to wide receiver just in jefferson is 92 Face in the cheese that seems a little bit low for him as well, especially with no Elite elite running backs. We need to get to you on this slate. I know the quarterback situation might make it tougher Because we do want to spend up there, but jefferson is insane He's had 149 yards or two touchdowns in every game so far and he's facing the cheese So they're going to throw a lot which they should jefferson 92 I think Probably a nice number there now cooper cup. I think I'll practice this week based on what show mcvey has said Not sure that means he'll play Because that hamstring injury sounded pretty bad if he does not play pukin akua's $8,000 I think akua will still be involved even if uh with if cup is back Because he seems like he's kind of in that robber woods role and woods could justify a mid-7000 salary Back in the day when he and cup were really cooking depends on the health of matthew stafard as well, but That's not too bad. Among us st. Brown in 77 He hasn't had like a big pop game as of yet No games more than 16.1 fan dual points, but 100 yards twice. He can get you two touchdowns potentially 77 frames not bad. Now the hope would there would be that the panthers can keep pace Keep the foot on the gas to the lions, but 77 is not too terrible for that. I missed a j brown. He's 82 Don't mind that in that matchup Scrolling down further nico Collins up to $7,000. Uh, jail and waddle is 68 I liked waddle a lot on sunday and obviously that did not uh pay off, but And the script could be very positive for the dolphins as well But 68 for a guy With his speed and playmaking potential. That's pretty tough to turn down. So waddle 68 Like the guy I'll be looking at next week, michael pitman really rough game for him this past week But the culturally completed 11 passes that kind of makes sense Five targets his first game with less than double digit targets I think we I go back to pitman this upcoming week given that they're facing the titans a team that encouraged you to throw the ball against them Pickens the 65 to you also not that bad between the two I would go pitman just because I think I'll probably like that game more Then I'll like out with pickens against baltimore Scrolling down further mentioned tyler boyd 62. It's not a bad number But also not a massive massive value tank del didn't do a whole lot this week I think he had only yeah three targets for him, but big play upside Playing indoors once again against a non threatening defense tank del 6000 could be a good salary saver there jordan adison snap rate went down for him in week Number four because the vikings were in a very positive script and throw the ball whole lot It seems like they like kj osborne more Uh in a spot where they're going to run the ball more so Addison down to 59 I think for that game where they'll probably have to throw a whole lot. That's probably low enough to be intriguing So addison 59 If you're looking for a value wide receiver He's probably going to be one of the first ones. I think of there a lot of deep work for him in the first three games I expect that to be back here In week number five say flowers on 59 as well taking on pittsburgh Didn't see a whole lot out of the ravens in that game, but also they didn't have to So flowers at 59 is pretty fun. Especially if there's no beckham again No mark andrews 59 for flowers could be a really good value So we like addison 59 flowers 59 as being potential values, maybe tank dal at $6,000 So not terrible value wide receiver Maybe it's situation where you get to jefferson and then spend down from there Uh scrolling down further At wider sever trying to see if there's anybody else really jumps out james and williams 53 for his debut I won't be doing that personally, but it's at least low enough to make you Give it some thought michael wilson big game for him This week 76 yards two touchdowns cut all seven targets He's had decent yardage upside so far despite the fact he hasn't had a lot of targets. So if you think that the Bengals offense is worth buying into and want to bring back option wilson might be a good play at $5,300 Don't see anything else here that stands out at wider sever as I scroll down Rishi rice I was keeping an eye on his snap rate last night 16 routes run for rishi rice travis calis around 27 Not quite there yet, but I think when you watch him he looks like he's probably the Has the potential to do the best pass catcher on the or the best receiver on this team So not getting to rishi rice yet, but keeping my eye on him robber woods is $5,000. Wow interesting 10 9 6 and 6 targets I don't really want to do that because i'm not sure what his best case scenario is but 5,000 is too low for him So might need to dig more into woods to see if he has a path to a big game because that's a very very low number for him Tied that next week. We do have travis kelsey 87 89 Oh, it's a travis kelsey's His number is 87 and taylor swift 1989. Okay, that's why okay trying to figure out what that was but All right, fandal. You got me there. Uh, kelsey 87 89 In terms of salary for this week mark andrew 76 talked before about how We're gonna like that vikings and she's game pairing kelsey of mahomes might be very very tough but It's worth it. As always just can you make that work andrew said a good game. Uh, not a fun Game setup environment for next week against pittsburgh So 76 might be a little bit on the high end there looking for some value play sam la porta $6,000 facing carolina At home of a big implied team total good workloads so far good yardage totals for sam la porta I could see myself being very into him Oh, dallas goddard's down to $5,500 another rough game for him four targets 25 yards, but You have to think eventually things will click into place for him in this offense and we're gonna want gilin hurts so I talked before about how Hertz's salary being so low kind of drew me towards him I think the same thing with goddard. So it hurts goddard Either a jay brown or davante smith stack might be pretty fun That might be hard to turn down tyler higby at a big game He entered the game questionable the achilles injury, uh, but 11 targets 64 yard just on an extension With cup back in the mix. I think I can avoid higby, but he is at least worth, uh Mentioning that he exists. I guess a 53 cow pits 51 Yeah, I mean the target totals honestly aren't that bad, but the problem is the Target quality is pretty bad facing houston. Uh, I like gilin petry a lot. Maybe he helps neutralize pits, but Uh, 51's not terrible for him I think it's gonna be hard to top goddard though at $5,500. So, uh, Dallas goddard Probably gonna be like the the go-to tight end for me if i'm saving salary For this next week That is all that we have here for today on the week four recap and week five first look again I think bacheco kind of the big guy who stands out to me as being intriguing And then trying to find ways to get to my home's hurts Stuff like that take advantage of the fact that they are fantastic and um in good good situations for next week So it should be a fun slate in week number five Do not forget to subscribe to the number fire daily fantasy podcast feed wherever you get your podcast We are back here once again thursday to preview the week five main slate with myself and brandon gandula Also up on the fandall youtube page and over on fandall tv plus If you've got any questions for me. 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