 And we are live on the 86th edition of the red man group. Welcome in everybody. I am your host and moderator Donovan sharp We are presented in part by tactical soap We're not gonna open up the phone lines today. Obviously. This is gonna be sort of a 21 convention Recap but before we go ahead and get started. Let's go and introduce today's panel first First up, of course Is the man who doesn't give a damn about red pill vernacular and just gives it to you straight without all of the fancy language That is Steve the Dean Williams who runs the website the man mindset calm Be sure to check out his weekly show right here on the red man group channel called the red pill mindset That's every Monday evening. I believe that's still seven eastern correct Steve. Yes, okay Very good also on the panel today is none other than CEO and founder of 21 studios and the 21 convention Anthony dream Johnson his websites are 21 studios calm and the 21 convention org be sure to subscribe to this channel Which is the red man group as well as his channel the 21 studios for his exclusive content videos And of course to sign up for 21 university also on the panel is hunter drew of the family alpha calm Thank goodness. He re grew his beard. We did not recognize who he was for I don't know Maybe a few hours Just just off off the subject here before I get here to Bruno How long did how long did it take for your beard to stop growing after you went completely clean shape? And what like 10 15 minutes? Yeah, I was already back. Yeah, okay That's what I figured you've got those hyper follicles like you've got like a two o'clock shadow instead of a five o'clock shadow It is pretty amazing a fast like your back hunter. It's unbelievable. It really is It's the beard balm I'm using man Jeff Putnam all the way good stuff I like the plug next up, of course is George the Sultan Bruno We call him the Sultan of silver the most distinguished male in the 21 convention community You guys can check out his podcast. I think George. I think you do random podcast I don't think you have a specific day and time but George makes George makes a lot of appearances. He's also he's also the official host of the 21 convention He conducts all of the interviews and does a fantastic job with that I of course in Donovan sharp you guys can check me out at Donovan sharp calm and at patreon at patreon calm Slash Donovan sharp. I'm on the air on Tuesdays only I'm gonna be ramping that up here after I make the move and build the new studios right here on YouTube How we doing everybody? Do a woman good good excellent Well, we are two weeks now removed from the from the 21 convention We didn't have a show last week because everyone was still traveling So today is going to be sort of a recap of the 21 convention how how it was different from Conventions in the past and of course we'll talk a little bit about the upcoming 22 convention when and where what the plans are Etc. Etc. So Anthony you're the head of the snake man. How did this particular 21 convention come off? and again there were concerns because of everything that had happened with the attendance and the you know The the mud slinging back and forth. How did that affect this particular 21 convention if at all? Yeah, it was amazing man I mean this event obviously is at the tail end of a lot of conflict We've seen this year as well as of the the tail end of two events that we had earlier this year And it's been a long time since then we had multiple events like in 2016 We had to we had the young men's event the under 21 main event But now those are both in Florida and it wasn't a massive deal this year We did three events, you know from patriarch in Orlando the brand new event For fathers and then of course we did another European event, which we have not done in a long time seven years And then on top of that we had this final event of the year with you know a major speaker additions like Stefan Molyneux Still a kind of fresh to the to the crew Elliott Hulse and then all kinds of stuff and it was awesome Then we had a really good turnout. It was not the biggest ever, but it was second so pretty close and It was just fucking amazing and I was particularly proud of a smooth one This was definitely the most complex advanced event. We've ever run Poland and patriarch are both really close But patriarch for example was a day shorter which makes it a little bit easier and Poland only had two workshops at a time Where is this at three to four at a time? In addition to constant speeches dinners parties after events We had a documentary crew out from the Netherlands. We had oh, yeah, New York Times I mean it was the moving parts we had a you know, we hired like sheriff's deputy to cover the event License armed security Like this was above and beyond the most complex event. We've ever run into in total factors combined like attendance speakers various workshops and logistics and it ran really smooth and That was not easy. I'd put my nose to the grindstone with our team and do that and we did it And that means the speakers to George Bruno and his brother fucking killed the 21. Yes Yes, they did the fantastic duo the tag teams like the double dragon or something going on So It was a lot. It was a ton of fun and I've actually been This is something I've been talking to one of her speakers about rich gran and a psychology guy that spoke in Poland But I feel really good after this event and not as exhausted as usually am which is kind of surprising I mean, it's physically exhausting like everybody's fucking you go to the sink sure before five days and really fuck But you sleep for a couple days and usually you get you know, you feel better But for me though, it's kind of most events are like just mentally and emotionally exhausting I'm very introverted and for whatever reason I didn't feel like that after this event I slept it off and I've been just feeling fucking awesome ever since and we're cranking out content now the 21 reports started publishing Today or tomorrow at the latest about the publish over 1200 over 1,000 photos. Oh the event to Facebook And that's only that's only I mean that's after deleting or not using like 29 the 30,000 photos of reduced don't even use So it's it's a massive amount of content. We filmed at this special event. We just had the final the decade It's been a massive year the amount of content right now We have built up the publish for free. Well first on 21 University and then after that on YouTube and stuff is just tremendous It's easily we film more content this year than any year in the history of the 21 convention And as far as I know the history of the Manusphere in terms of conferences speeches podcasts interviews like this George Bruno alone knocked out about 60 Yeah, so just from a production Content standpoint and helping men and reaching men and impact It's massive and the speakers now too all of you guys especially George Bruno with his One on a port and then Molly new and I'll eat hulls all the speakers are now pitching in to co-publish their content Don up and hope you can go to your channel to your speeches and stuff. Yeah Your 2018 is about ready by the way, okay? Good good. Good. It's just been super exciting man There's so much going on and it's so positive and I'm sure that sounds funny to watch me on Twitter But it's been a fucking awesome year all of you guys good good Let's go to George Bruno next because I'm getting some feedback from somebody because I can hear myself I don't know if it's me or what the fuck's going on that. Yeah, it's like I can hear my I can hear myself That's loud. Let me go in the private chat Oh wait a minute. All right. All right. Well, that that sounds a little bit better George you are along with Anthony. You're on the front lines You're the guy that gets to talk to you're the guy that gets to talk to everybody there You're the guy that gets to interview everybody there What are your thoughts on some of the new guys the Pat Steadman's the stuff on Malinus? How did they and Elliot Hulse is he's still a newcomer. He's done this now I think three or four times What is what are your thoughts on how those guys added to the convention in in terms of what they brought in terms of notoriety and content? What I like about this new crop of new guys is It's not like we have a briefing meeting before the event and tell the men what to do what to say How to outline things how to act on stage? I'm pretty sure Anthony says We want you to speak If you have a PowerPoint presentation go for it Anthony has given all the newbies freedom to do what they want and Everyone has used that freedom Profoundly Profoundly which adds, you know, there's nobody wants to sit in a big room Listening to eight men drone on one hour after another all day long So everybody kind of breaks it up with their own style and one of the things that I have found Consistent amongst all the newbies is they are amazed at the freedom that they're given to speak what they want to do it how they want whatever the methodology and With that freedom just comes a great presentation and they are themselves. They they don't have to Like I said, it's not like we're putting our heads together before the event and everybody on the same page We're on the same page as far as our values are concerned But as far as methodology and style they are blown away That they can kind of do what they want and you know what it's a risk on Anthony's part I know that because you never know You know, you never know what's gonna happen on stage when you after you introduce somebody uses. Yes Yeah, and I think everyone handled that responsibility. Well, I believe Because of that We are trusted more Nobody just flies in speaks and then flies out and I think that lends to more community At the conventions people hanging out having coffee having drinks after having cigars and pipes and going out together And I believe that's one of the unique things about the 21 convention is I love watching the reactions of the speakers because I get most of the guys Just minutes after they come off stage. Oh, yeah, and Everybody is really impressed. I guess that the term I started seeing this in 2018 when people would say it's a well-oiled machine Yep, and they camp like this weekend right now. I'm at a men's conference I mean, I had a week to recover from 21 and now I'm up in the Poconos. It's 12 degrees out here Yeah, it looks like it looks like you're about to it looks like you're out wrestling I didn't know what was happening out there. You got the beard. You got the woods I'm not in the middle of the woods here at a retreat center and it's their first conference And it's going well, but you can tell it's a first conference And so coming from 21, which is anthony, how many how many events have you put on so far? Yeah, go going from a conference that's done it Nearly two dozen times and really perfected it. I mean think about it 21 really You know, anthony's got the game down, you know, and I know it didn't happen overnight And I'm at a first time conference right now speaking over this weekend and doing interviews similar to 21 And they have a long way to go. They have a long way to go to put it Firsts of everything are always Trial and error, but I'll tell you what man 21 is sound solid is a rock man. It's I just I can't recommend it enough to men as a matter of fact I was telling the men here this weekend. This is a group that would be I tweeted this this morning. I'm tweeting my ass off today I said it's a group that's That's not similar to Fraternity of excellence. So I look at this as a satellite group here. I mean, I'm sitting here with about 40 men and All I see is candidates for the patriarch convention, you know, and I'm thinking These guys and then and then one of the speakers has his own another organization that's different from this one Called it's good to be a man And he's got a ton of followers and I'm thinking all right If there's another king and his kingdom that will be welcome to speak and I'm just enjoying the it's almost like like Al Capone it reminds me of Al Capone Bringing all the mob families together to agree on something and that's what Anthony's done He's brought kings together in their kingdoms. We're not fighting each other We're not one is not saying I'm better than you and I'm so I'm the past year I'm just so sick and tired of the better than attitude and you know what we're in this together And I am loving it absolutely loving it and this last Orlando 21 convention I thought the speakers were incredible people took risks we had We had controversial figures And you know the thought of a the thought of a contra the thought of a controversial figure is actually worse than the controversial figure You know people thought oh my god Stefan's going to be political or this and that Oh my gosh, he was wonderful. His speech was awesome, dude. Yeah People thought steadman, you know like what's going to happen with Pat? He was fantastic So I think there's a lot of catastrophizing going on in the manasphere and what I like is how when we put aside the catastrophizing the name calling The kings come together and Good good stuff Ben well said George and speaking of which talking about men In terms of their caliber of the fraternity of excellence hunter drew You were also there for the 21 convention. He of course was the very first keynote speaker of the inaugural 21 convention patriarchs edition Hunter, what were your thoughts on this year's 21 convention and just to sort of piggyback off of what George was talking about What are your thoughts on the controversial figures? Did it go as planned? Did you not have expectations? You know how I go into these, you know, it's just whatever You know, I never have this whole like oh, it's doom and gloom. I'm like anthony. Fuck it Like we're gonna go down. We're gonna get the men together. We're gonna have a good time and regardless of how You feel about a certain individual. That's the whole reason they're there. We're not trying to make these cookie cut conventions We're trying to push we're trying to go into different regions Get different perspectives get to see some different viewpoints on things So when you're oh, why'd you bring him in? That's exactly why I brought him in He's looking at things differently And that's what we're trying to solve here is to get the ultimate view to help men And that's the whole focus of this so when everybody's you know Shit's flying back and forth. I'm like, what's the mission focus on that? You know, we belong focused on our missions. We're just helping men And the future truly is men coming together in the real world and doing things and that's what 21 con does And in between it's dropping all these drip feed like hey, here's some content You know for those who couldn't make it here's you know This speech on that and that changes lives too and then those men get to meet each other And that's what this whole thing is about. So I couldn't give a shit less about anybody's You know what they're like cool. If you're an asshole, you're not going to come back But we don't know that until we get you out there. So I want to keep seeing I was wrong about pat stevin. I have smashed that guy We've had so many back and forwards and I was wrong and I I told him that you know face to face Because you get sucked into the oh You're the you're the dating coach. You're a life coach. Who do you think you are? I'm like, yeah, fuck this guy and then I meet him like wow You're a great fucking dude who's helping a lot of people, you know, there's there's nothing True as to what's being said about this man I felt horrible and and we we cleaned the slate there But I would never have had that opportunity had Anthony not had the balls to say, hey, I'm I don't know cells Sounds like somebody's about to get into a fight. It's like hunter froze up too. Yeah looks like hunter froze up All right. Well, let's go to steve the dean william steve. This is your this was your third event actually no This was yeah, this was your third event. You did no, no it was your second event You did you did 21 convention patriarchs edition Which was which was unbelievably awesome and then of course you did this 21 convention now What to you were the main differences between the 21 convention and the 21 convention patriarch that we did back in may He did Poland too donovan. Oh, you did. So this is your third event. Yeah. Wow steve is really racking up the uh Yeah, so yeah, so what are your thoughts, man? Well, the the only differences I see is that it just gets better and better You know, sometimes when you think that you hit the ceiling on certain things It always just goes up a level. I mean George is George, but I mean he is just It's just I mean we can just start with George first. Well, let's let's back up. Let's start with anthony first And how he sets everything up and makes you feel like you're welcome, you know, you feel like you're You're your uh, uh family, you you know, he welcomes you with open arms and everything like that and like the guys are saying You know, he allows you to to say what you want to say on your platform You know, and he trusts that you'll get the message out and things like that From him doing the workshops to the dinners to the meet and greets Uh from I've all I I'm not sounding a broken record, but from beginning to end It is ridiculously Top notch top notch and then you go rolling to George who's Layed back in a cut chilling in his little section welcomes you in He just sits there makes you feel at home. He's like, you know, George doesn't tell you what like he wants you to say George, but okay, what are we talking about and and the thing that's so great about George Is he can he can roll off of anybody talking about anything? Which is that awesome and and and his phone and as well and I wouldn't also say about hunter um One thing a lot of people know was Hunter, uh, his son was playing baseball, you know, it was an important game For hunter. I think he was in a wedding first, but You know, he saw how important it was He came down he cut the he I think he cut the wedding short came down and as a great father monitoring his son's game the whole time but Putting in, you know, making a decision between Watching his son pitch. I think he pitched a perfect game to the seventh inning or I think Another one Jesus Christ Hasn't given up a hit in like 18 months Yeah, but I'm just saying things like that show should show people the the love that these these guys have for these men that want to give them Hope and knowledge and it's just it's just that like I say and like one more thing bringing kings together I've always said I believe we are our own communities But when we come together, we're all at the table Giving information learning information and like like George said nobody's better than anybody else We just respect everybody and move on so it's just I just can't it just it just seems like Like does it get better than this? That's the next question. You always have it's like It's just shocking how great it is, man Yeah, one thing I can certainly uh a test to is the The the smoothness of the event Everything is always organized. No one is ever confused in terms of where they have to be what they have to do And you know, the interesting thing is is I never found myself wondering. Okay. What are we doing next? I could literally just kind of put myself on autopilot and enjoy the okay So I was one of the speakers I hosted a red man group live and I had a workshop, but at no point that I ever feel ruster Oh my god, what am I going to do? I was the organization Affords me to be able to enjoy the convention just like everyone else because not only am I a speaker I'm also an attendee. I mean I watched a bunch of speeches You know talked to a lot of guys, you know attended a couple of workshops and for me It was great fun and I think the organizational level I think the the the professionalism like george said It runs like a well-oiled machine and because it runs so well It allows the speakers to actually be attendees And I think that's probably one of the most important elements of the convention is that we all get to see each other We all get to meet each other. I mean, yeah, I'm a speaker, but I'm I'm a fanboy too It's great to see george in person even though we live, you know, what 20 minutes away from each other But it's it's very very good to sort of rub elbows with the guys Met stefan molyneux in person for the first time which was which was pretty cool Got to see hunter sat next to him during I think I don't know probably getting them mixed up They all run together at some point But the red man or the red man group definitely for me was the was certainly the crown jewel and of course You know the the heroes dinner and everything in between so it was it was it was great fun It was a great time And i'm definitely looking forward to doing it again anthony Let's let's talk a little bit about what we have planned for 2020 And we talked about this a little bit on the red man group Say again Oh, yeah, it's a little bit better if you can turn yourself up a little bit. Uh, yeah Yeah, yeah, you're you're crystal clear. Are they can anybody can everybody else here? Finally, yeah, I've had a new mic setup. I'm trying to play with it. Oh, yeah, they dude They're they're they're dude new microphones or a four letter word You you think I'd have this figured out too given the complexity of the events But the house setup is always like fuck. What do I do? Right I don't have a team doing it But I wanted to comment on something that george brought up and I think steve too And even hunter and that's the freedom that I give the speakers at the event And you notice that both in the interviews the podcast the speeches It's rare. I ask you guys and extremely where I dictate anything Like off limits like I don't like, you know a long time ago. We had a speaker talk about Basically promote feminism and I'm like that's off limits. You can't do that But outside of that like it's really where I give you guys any kind of requests or demands like that It's got to be really off off the charts like that and I do that on purpose and I bring this up because You know george and these guys are hitting on it But also we had a blogger come out and review the event and experience at legends of men And he gave a pretty positive review But one thing he was critical of is he didn't feel there was like a cohesive theme to the speakers And I disagree strongly and I think the theme that he overlooked as the freedom that the speakers have And I'm basically tapping into you guys and the freedom You have intellectually to speak and you know use your fucking brain and open your mouth To build that theme and so to me the theme of the event that the men are experiencing that's super positive and powerful It's implicit in what you guys are doing just by bringing your a game on your own Don't I'm sharp bringing bringing the fucking sharp reality. Steve the dean bringing the man mindset George Bruno bringing the George Bruno experience and hunter drew doing his thing Every speaker is doing their own thing to the max and that's what I want to leverage every time at the events On a very individual level for each of you in addition to seeing you guys kind of compete with each other kind of horse around And uh and boost each other up that way And I think that's why you guys give that the events the best speeches of your lives I've seen this given uh said repeatedly about the speakers that You know they go to both speak at other events sometimes or do their own content But very often some of the best content they'll be making their life is at the 21 convention And I think it's because of the freedom you guys have the professionalism and the production quality And the interaction you guys have at the event that's like very positive and competitive and masculine So I really love seeing that and to me that is the base theme of the convention Is that freedom is that open debate as long as it's fundamentally pro-man and pro-mass? Yes. Yes So it's not just like some random ted talk obviously like it's oh, there's there's there's some boundaries, but they're pretty uh They're pretty fundamental pretty basic like feminism's gay communism's gay other than that men are awesome Um, but yeah, thank you mentioned the feature and stuff 2020, uh Oh, anyway, yeah, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Yes. You mentioned uh 2020 events and what's going on We have four events technically planned. I call it three and a half, but really it's like four So the first one that's coming up soon is is going to be a combination weekend Two separate events same weekend same hotel same venue And that's going to be the 22 convention to make women great again for the first time in history And then on top of that we're going to be running the second annual patriarch edition fatherhood edition of the 21 convention Starring this time keynote speaker, uh tanner guzzi Oh, wow, that'll be cool. Yeah, fuck. Yeah I guess hunter will be a vice president or vice patriarch of that event And i'm really really excited for that 100 kilodit last year is the first time like that And we'll have a lot of huge speakers at that event too. And so these events, you know, obviously it's a patriarch edition again The only major major difference from last year is it's going to be a four day convention the patriarch Yes, anyone experience instead of three But on top of that the women's conventionally running concurrently the same weekend that'll be shorter to be three days So patriarch would kick off on thursday April 30th, and then the women's convention will kick off on may 1st the day after And both are run to may 3rd and they're going to be the same weekend same hotel same venue Different conference rooms and it's going to be fucking awesome different ticketing too So if you're a woman, you cannot attend the patriarch if you're a man, you cannot attend the women's convention But the speaker is going to be cross compatible too Most of the patriarch speakers you're going to see you're going to also speak of the 22 convention for women And i'm super excited for that It's never been done in history that I know of where men have got together and provided content and education And this kind of impact for women like this And we're billing it, you know as the mansplaining event of the century as of right now There are no women speakers at it and there's no intent to invite any it's going to be all men speaking to women Which to me is symbolic of what's missing in western culture right now in america And to find mollinio actually hit this without talking with me at all He nailed this in his speech and I think his speech was titled like what What women need to hear from men essentially like that And it was savage as fuck. It was a stare. It was fucking super funny everyone put it out pretty soon And it was really good. I mean he was he was an impressive speaker I think everyone I talked to said something along those lines and I agree But that's kind of the also kind of the basis of this event is like what are women missing today in america and in the west and one of those things is a Positive masculine message and presence in their life because feminism has drowned it out to the max Like elliott hulls was talking about in his interview with george at the on the report. We published yesterday That the west is lacking father energy and I never heard of put that way But he hit the nail in the head that it's been like, you know killed off and siphoned off for decades And you you feel that now women are out of control thought culture hookup culture sugar dating office bullshit Uh, you know endless amounts of feminism and feminist insanity that is that is ruining families and children and lives and in men too So I think the 22 convention make women great again Is give me the first time there's a major pushback to this in uh recent history And i'm excited to do it I think we have the perfect line of speakers to do that a jay cortez will be the keynote of the 22 convention for women That's gonna be awesome Yeah, I had you know, he's he's an amazing speaker with great content But on top of that So he's a competitor just by that, uh, but on top of that. I mean he's fucking super chat jesus, so I thought it'd be a really perfect to put a ballerina or about an excuse me a ballerina But a ballet dancer at the uh as a title the title keynote speaker that event west coast All the content, uh, yeah, they called him walmart fabio on the on his twitter through everyone Target fabio will give him target. Yeah Because he's fancy like that There you go We're gonna so we're gonna film all that content too. They're like 21 convention and eventually it'll be published or free on the web And i'm hoping that content goes viral and triggers a shit out of feminists and then educates millions of women In a very positive way that they're not getting right now that they're they're desperate for and they're they need it And I think we see that whenever I mentioned the 22 convention, uh, and I talked to a woman about it through dm I've got a lot of messages about it women are very excited for it Uh, they have nothing like that. All right. Oh, yeah, dude Since day one when we announced that a woman have been, you know super into it trying to buy tickets And recently I've been talking about a little bit and women are hitting them up about it and they're excited And um, I think women throughout the west every time a woman sees this whether it's just some girl on the internet or some girl in Fucking I mean their heads explode They're they're absolutely like their eyes go wide and they're fascinated like what is this make woman great again And they see a whole conference being built for this. They're just like what the fuck So I really think it's uh needed in the west and we are in a prime position to do that Like never before Uh, women need to be told women are not leaders. They need to be led That's right And they are not going to leave themselves out of feminism. They demonstrated that for 100 years now, especially the past 30 to 40 and they need men to help them do that and uh I'll be called probably captain savoh or admiral savoh or some shit, but whatever like I love general savoh to you Yeah, exactly I want to see women do well in america and in the west and they're not right now And they've been doing worse every year in every decade that goes by Men has to change and I think men are the ones who are going to do that men and fathers and the speakers like we have I think one of the I think one of the one of the gross And I would say they're probably disingenuous misconceptions About the manisphere is that men like us hate women And nothing could be further from the truth because if we really did hate women We wouldn't talk about women The reason why men in this country are fed up the reason why men in this country Are doing things like going migtail and swearing off women. It's not because they it's not because they hate women It's because they want good meaningful relationships with women Unfortunately, there are very few women in this part of the world Who are capable of having good solid relationships of consequence with persons of the opposite sex If we didn't give a damn about women We would just talk about you know fucking hose and this and that and the third and we wouldn't really worry about it But I think when when when women are happy when women are truly happy when women are in good relationships everybody wins But I think what a lot of people a little what a lot of people fail to realize Is that feminism has destroyed both women and men the fact that women are no longer viable for families much less relationships and Now it's escalated to the point where it's not even It's it's not even worth having sex with them anymore But when women are in the state that they're in everybody loses man And a lot of guys like oh women aren't this and oh, you know They're going to be the cat lady and this and that and the other which is which is absolutely true But guys lose out too because guys are also buying into feminism Women don't want feminine men no matter what they say no matter what our movies and television and social media says Women don't want men to follow women women want a man to follow They want to be on a program women are and we can leave this to the creator But women by their very nature are self destructive if left to their own devices They destroy themselves and everyone around them Any time a woman is given any modicum of control over anything they destroy it the economy children television shows It doesn't matter if they put their finger if if they are in charge of something It is going to fail Does this mean women are inferior to men? Probably But that doesn't mean that we can't compliment one another Women need men men don't need women But no matter how much we can sit here and say we don't need them We certainly want them and for any man to deny that you really do want a relationship of consequence with a woman Who appears to be worth it is disingenuous? We all want relationships with women on different levels and admitting that you want a relationship with a woman doesn't make you Doesn't make you a cuck it makes you a man by the same token. I think this 22 convention is great for women We're gonna teach women dude. You don't have to be strong You don't have like like there are different kinds of strength There's a difference between male strength and female strength But admitting that you want a man doesn't make you weak. It doesn't make you trash It makes you a woman and I think what we're going to do at the 22 convention is going to give permission Give women permission to be women But that starts with guys like us giving ourselves permission to be men because we can't give women permission to be women Unless we give ourselves permission to be men and that's where the 21 convention starts George i'd like to get your thoughts on the 22 convention because you were accompanied by a very attractive Young woman who see and and every time every time you looked at her she was all her eyes We're all always trading on you. She is the embodiment of or you rather are the embodiment of the way a relationship Should be so what do you hope? What do you see the 22 convention? Doing for women. How do you think it's going to be received? i'm getting a lot of uh my female followers kind of coming out of the woodwork right now and the Some of the issues that the man of sphere went through in the past year When those things cleared up it almost gave many of my secretive female followers A reason to come out come out of hiding that they weren't going to get beat up That I wasn't going to publicly hammer them they can And there's still a few meatheads that will will attack the ladies Who make comments on my on my uh show and on my videos But what i'm finding is a resounding amen from The women how about that? I had no idea george. I mean this is surprising. Yeah, you see the same thing Yeah, they're they're loving the content I haven't changed my content at all But what's happening is is that women have sensed a change in my spirit and in my attitude and If we keep saying Battle of the sexes You know there's a war on men I get that I understand that then what happens is it makes my hands want to do this I I can't sustain this I want to loosen up my hands I want to offer a hand of welcome to people not this or this and what's happened is Women I think who are more sensitive and I'm believe me. I'm no expert on women But I think many times women are more sensitive to a The spirit of a man I haven't I haven't changed. I'm still manly. I'm still masculine. I love women But something has changed in the way that I'm communicating that They have seen it And they're now coming out and talking about it And I believe they're perfect candidates for the 22 convention. What I have found is that the more I'm not hiding my masculinity. I'm not hiding behind anything I'm not hiding behind wisely crafted words. I'm a simple man I'm fine just you of that by masculinity But not macho. There's no one in the world that would ever say that I'm macho But but by amping up my masculinity the women Have come out of the woodwork not only personally to me As far as wanting to be involved with me dating and so forth And I love it because those kind of women enjoy a man who is a man in a world Where there are teachers right now that say don't do anything for women Don't hold the door for women. Don't pour her extra glass of wine. Do not take her coat Don't in a world where literally a portion of the manisphere is teaching that I'm coming out and saying be a gentleman Don't be a pussy. You don't have to be the this Subservient male chauvinist who is holding the door for a woman hoping, you know for a transaction later on that evening I I will hold the door for any one of you guys on this broadcast I will take your coat. I will pour your second glass of wine Because that's what a gentleman does a gentleman just doesn't cater to women He accommodates everybody And there's a part of the manisphere that just rejects that And They're almost saying amplify the inner asshole within you. Yes And that is the fight that I've had in the past Let's say seven to nine months Is like don't like I want you to kill Your beta and kill your inner asshole Amplify your masculinity be a man not only to women But to other men and be an example And guess what it goes back to that thing that we that we all say all the time Who does a woman want? She wants a man that other men respect And that other women want to be with What a perfect picture of manhood Well said george uh anthony you had something on the superiority inferiority thing Yeah, just a quick comment. I know you just sort of uh, you had like a monologue just two minutes ago on that On the issue in my position on the issue of women and men, you know inferior superior and all that stuff I mean obviously women want to be dominated and they seek superior men Men who are specifically superior to them in like numerous ways On a whole though, I think men and women are so fundamentally different. I don't even know and so it's been my thought for a while I'm not even sure the question Or the the basis of like men and women who superior inferior and stuff. I'm not even sure if it's like Uh, like a relevant question ask Who am I bringing? It's almost like you're comparing apples and wrenches, right? Yeah, something like that. And so it's funny just to say it and fuck with people and and go with stuff like that But honestly, like it's Oh, we lost Bruno. Oh well We lose Donovan too Jesus, all things We're not we're getting we're picked off like flies men. But anyway, it's superiority inferiority thing Uh I don't like to say that women are inferior to men and men are superior to women unless I'm just, you know Just trolling. I honestly don't even think it's Relevant like we're just so different Men or men are, you know, definitively better at numerous things and there's you know There's research on this you can look at like Thing up your thing up your thing with that's athletics or IQ and all this stuff But women are better at some things too. Women, for example, are way better at socializing by default and To put it lightly, you know manipulating men rather than the way around men have a difficult time navigating that kind of stuff And the manager teaches men how to defend themselves from that and then navigate those minefields of the dating marketplace today So I just thought I'd clear that up a little bit No, I'm glad you added that one of the things that drives me insane is when people not people when men get so stuck On focusing on what's the difference? It's like just shut the fuck up for a second. Yeah You didn't go to the gym. You didn't do any any efforts on your part You just want to focus on these these theoretical discussions I mean, it's cool to understand how gravity works, but I hold the pen I drop the pen it falls to the ground That's all I need to know now. I now I've got the laws of gravity and I can go forward I'm not going to sit here and study the formulas as to how mass pulls things in and at what size It's going to pull things down harder. That doesn't matter gravity's gravity move on You know intersexual dynamics is intersexual dynamics now move on use it as a tool to make your life better So that means, you know hitting the gym dressing better one of the things I think we do very well at 21 con is skip the fluff and go right to the man Sitting down at the dinner instead of saying, oh, let's talk about, you know, what's what's blue? What's red? What's purple and how do you define like hey man? When's the last time you worked out? Yeah, like I'm very there's no fluff because I'm just you're looking across, you know Maybe they carry an extra weight, you know, they're they're they're dressed slovenly Hey, man, did you realize that if you wore a v-neck shirt and you kind of tighten it up You look those are the real conversations that people don't get to have anywhere else But at 21 they get to ask hey tanner. What would work here tanner jumps on it? I think you're gonna nail the hunter. I think you're hitting the nail on the fucking head, dude And I think the difference is the format online, you know the man is fear the digital man is fear Men tend to get stuck on their heads. It exact it exacerbates that issue, right? It's all it's a lot of theory It's like 80 percent theory 20 percent real talk But in real life flips and I think that's what you're hitting on in real life This theoretical talk that was mostly at the window And it's a lot of savage shit in your face. Hey, man, when's the last time you worked out? Like what are you doing? Are you better now than you were six months ago or a year ago at the last event? And see I've seen you do this with the guys and I hear it's actually one of the best things about Attending the convention from the attendees Especially with you and texas here in this that you guys are really uh interacting with the eight would engage in with the attendees All the speakers do they're really good about it Yeah, you and texas are definitely in these guys faces And asking these kind of blunt questions that they're not going to get, you know The uh grassy line stuff that Steve talks about right when they go back home Their friends are weak beta blue pill, you know should at best And they don't get that kind of push they don't get that kind of masculinity around them Even in Orlando, you know, I'm glad I have guys like socrates around to push me And uh different friends I have but it's rare, you know most of culture today in the west is not like that Masculinity is you know Has been diminished over and over and over again I think I agree by the way. I don't know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, um, I don't know I don't know. Maybe he got attacked by a by a grizzly berries probably Fucking bear Yeah, I imagine don't give a fuck No, listen, no, they don't they give zero fuck Steve What are your thoughts on the on the 22 convention because you're listen, you're a married man You've been married for over 20 years You have a beautiful family What do you think the 22 convention will do for women? How do you think it will help them? Well, I always believe it Takes a thief to catch a thief and in order for them to find a real man They need to hear from real men and I think that's something that they are lacking They're so busy listening to the you know, Steve Harvey's or the people out there telling them that Yeah special in that they're good and you don't have to do anything and you're good enough and You don't have to do anything But just sitting look pretty and and again, you know all this other stuff and I just think that that's wrong. I mean uh It took I'm a I'm a great man But when I found a great woman that I deem worthy remember the man Chooses you being worthy and I don't think a lot of women understand that I'm never saying a woman doesn't have value or nor should they value themselves But I they always scratch their head wondering why Why doesn't he want to marry me? Why does he only want to sleep with me and not want to marry me? And the the thing is is that you don't understand men You you're so busy looking in the mirror trying to figure out you You're not even trying to understand that men are simple Men are simple and and the things that you have to do to or to get one is you've got to show him How worthy you are of his last name and I and that's and I think that's some of the things I mean promoting I don't think they understand The the the things that they have to do. It's like lord of the rings. I'm not calling them smegel But they've got to they've got to get the ring, you know, they've got to they've got to fight They've got to slay the minotaur They've got to climb to the mountain because the man's already at the top of the mountain So she needs to get up there with him keyword him and they just need to understand that and in order to do that They need to be around men like you guys the only way because you are honest and that's something they're not getting You guys are not trying to sleep with these women You're trying to educate them where most guys are using that platform to get sex from these women and not educate them And I think that's what's going to be the difference maker in all of this, brother Good stuff and I'll like I'll make one more comment because I've got to I've got to go here I think one thing that women are grossly unaware of in terms of finding and locking down a man of value and and and Having a relationship of consequence with him is that trust is not given trust is earned Too many women believe that if a man is sleeping with her then he must also trust her Now nine times out of ten better than nine times out of ten She's right because better than nine out of ten men are not red pill aware But whether you consume manasphere content or not whether you consider yourself to be red pill aware or not There are a lot of men out here who are red pill aware without knowing that they're red pill aware Right like they like they they they understand the subtle nuances They understand what's really going on in the sexual marketplace. They just don't give it a name I have conversations with george and tony all the time They tell me listen We were doing this stuff back when we were in our 20s and 30s before any manasphere or red pill game books or anything came out That's just that's that's just how it goes But one thing and this is what i'm going to talk about in my 22 convention speech Is that women need to proactively build a man's trust? You don't just go in and automatically get that trust. Well, your man should just trust you No, your man shouldn't trust you unless you give him reason to trust you And I think the state of today's women is grossly lacking that particular element They just believe that a man should just trust them and of course most women take advantage Of that assume trust and they go out they go off and cheat and do all kinds of other things So those are going to be the things that those are going to be among the things that i'm talking about In my 22 convention speech, but guys I have to go uh dev and I are are going to look at at our new townhouse We're going to be moving into next week. Oh, martin. Oko says he'd like to see a live stream from a gym I'm actually building a gym in my place and no i'm not talking about little nautilus machines or buff buff flexes I'm talking i'm talking a squat rack. I'm talking over a thousand pounds worth of olympic weights I'm talking deadlifts. I'm talking, you know pulled. I mean it's it's going to be We're we're we're going all out. So so big things coming up for tsr Anthony thanks for having me on and I will see you guys on the flip side See you donovan. All right guys Yeah, that was pretty well put actually with the trust and stuff. Yeah, you put that pretty well Women today they're they feel so entitled to in the west everything including trust You know one thing I wanted to mention too is with what he was talking about You know steve, we were in you know, poland a few months ago. We talked about them snow bunnies The women in poland men, I believe throughout the ukraine and the surrounding countries in eastern europe They're so feminine and they're so positive and you can feel that just walking around just going to a coffee shop A restaurant or just walking on street and shit or at the hotel where we had the convention the the marriott And that's uh, that's that's lacking today when I got back to america I was immediately like culture shocked in my own fucking country Add that the immediate dissipation of that energy that you feel and you sense and you see it and these women are Those women are basically a lot happier than women in america And I think it's because there's probably a you know cyclical relationship, but They're more happy because they're more feminine and they're more feminine because they're more happy and they're submissive and responsive to men They have expectations of men being men and they have expectations of themselves And other women around them to act like women and these things these gender roles Even the most basic elements of it have been eroded a lot in american life And when I got back to america my first stop was in chicago had a layover That was a shit show woman are walking around wearing pajamas Uh compared to poland where the rest of the nines just on a day-to-day basis It smells like mcdonald's grease everywhere. There's women are 20 to 30 pounds heavier on average or something like They're disheveled and it was just uh I mean these are my fellow americans. So it's just disheartening kind of sucks But it's also like all right at least we have an example of what they can do to get better of where this can actually lead And so I like I really love being a poem this year and seeing that And I think the 22 convention with the speakers like us and uh, you know the other guys from the convention can really put a Could put a dent in that universe. It's gonna take time. I mean feminism is wrecked women for Fucking decades now. I think they've really destroyed a whole generation of millennial women But I think a lot of this can be undone and especially for younger women who are still like gen z they can be uh They can turn the ship around before they run into a couple icebergs like most of them down their 20s Uh, you know all the the train wreck of bullshit they get into Hunter, what are you excited about for uh, patriarch the second one other than tanner being keynotes? So you get to uh Get the coke. I guess you're like the co-kino so I keep thinking I get to The king's the crown's on him. He's got to run with it I get to sit back and chill in this one and watch him give the speeches and introduce Uh, it's really cool, man. You know the first one, you know, we beat that one to death with how Killer was the the action that took place after the fact for this next one I look for a mature coming out. That's fucking dope. That's awesome. Yeah, there's a Those are my people, you know, when we go out to 21 con there's like a lot of guys who are like, oh What about dating? I'm like, I'm not the right one for that I can tell you about relationships all day But going out at bars right now like that's not my wheelhouse So they start the family guys has kind of how it works They'll gravitate because that's the message we have at patriarchs It's it's fathers or men who want to become fathers, you know And that's just killer because that's literal skin in the game You know, that's literal the next generation depends on what you do as a man You know a lot of guys if you're alone in your apartment And it's just you and you're doing your thing you control you and that's all you're worried about You're not worried about bringing you're raising human beings, you know, and during my speech this year I kind of flipped out in the crowd and I was like, what the fuck we keep calling family men tradcons But what what's conservative about raising children in this day and age properly? You talk about being red pill aware, you know, there's nothing conservative about trying to lead a woman for life There's nothing conservative about trying to raise children properly in in this day and age. It's a fucking beast So in patriarchs, uh, the two things I'm looking forward to most with that The first is seeing the fathers from the previous one and hearing how they've improved because a lot of those guys Several joined foe like right after it because that we've got a large family contingent in there So I've seen these guys and they're like, oh, I'm going to patriarchs It's not going to see him shake hands again. See what's new. How are the kids? You know updates in their life and the next one Is seeing the new men that are coming in A lot of guys that were at this last 21 con and several that were single Said i'm going to patriarchs because I want a family someday and I want to do it right from the beginning So I want to go to a A convention that's specifically focused to that and it's really cool that it's going the four days because that's that that's legit like this Yeah, so Sad but totally and when I start a new convention like patriarch last year or earlier this year I keep thinking it's last year, but it's this year I like making it a little bit shorter three days the same way with the 22 convention for women The reason I do that is it makes the event a little bit easier to run And honestly when when an event's new whether it's patriarch or 22 con for women or whatever we're doing I want to make sure that it's as perfect as possible And so it's actually it's a little bit I cut it short, you know, in the three days, but in doing so it's it's fucking awesome It makes it better and then in the future like now for next year I'll make it four days 22 con will probably follow a similar format So me three days off the bat and then four days like the following years and stuff like that I think the most satisfying thing from everything that we do here Is if if what we do doesn't lead to men taking different actions Like that's when I tap like that. I'm out like we're obviously not doing our job, but these guys Um specifically your cameraman really stood out to me from that the last one, you know losing weight getting stronger You know, you see these guys come back year after year dressing better, you know the accountability is I'm going to be seeing you next year I can't be fatter. I can't you know be less confident like you I've got to raise my game And every time you see them they're happier Yeah, man Like he killed it and he grew the beard like I was still pumped for him And one of the things he said is I had given him a challenge coin from the fraternity of excellence And on it it says mind body spirit and he said he kept it on him and he knew to keep himself strong You know in his mind his body of the spirit. He's like that kept him going forward. I was like, dude, fuck Yeah, that's what this is all about and that's actually my I didn't know what I was going to do for 22 con I'm like, what the fuck that's gonna be my angle the actions women can take and how they need to stop saying Oh, I want to be a good woman. No go be a good woman. Don't tell me what to Yeah, dude, I'm fucking stumped dude. Are you bringing the wife to 22 con? Yes Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. We're gonna make it a family vacation. I'm money now the kids Yeah, yeah, yeah do it do it. That's that's savage, man So steve, uh, I'm gonna post to both of you but steve first Steve what are your thoughts on if any on combining the patriarch edition? A 21 convention event with the 22 convention same weekend. This is a controversial move. I've never done before No, I think it's uh, I think it's a great idea because you do one thing you knock two birds out with one stone And by doing that that separates you what you're doing from basic what everybody else is trying to do but um, what I what I like about uh, the fact that Uh, and I I'm I'm sure that are they going to be workshops as well for the women? Have you gone that far to figure that Maybe I'm thinking about it. I might I might simplify it to old school 21 style It just speeches, but I might also do workshops for them. We'll see. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah No doubt. Um, but uh, you know and and hunter was saying that, you know, he tapping out whenever You know, we feel that we can't do it but You know, we're like the justice league going against the legion of dooms out there where Uh, there are people out there still Telling these young men that women are scum and you know, don't get married and You know, they just it's like they're trying to do everything they can to Uh, take the name you're take a person's name and make it nothing Or they just get blue pill bullshit and women are angels or snowflakes that never do anything right? Right, so it's coming from both right. Yeah. Yeah, two ends are retarded. Yeah, so it's coming from it's coming from both sides That's why things like this is going to be good It's um being able to educate the men who want to be fathers And the thing is a lot of these guys don't even realize They want to be fathers or they don't understand their last name or their legacy And that's what's good about that for the on the side of the street for the guys But like I said on the other side of the street for the women, they finally get to see Real men talking to them not not degrading them and not bringing them down But being honest with them enough to say listen, this is what you need to do This is not what they need to do These are the things you need to do and I think combining those things is knocking two birds out one stone, man Fuck yeah When you look at the ways that men are being hit with this message it's It's always with this angle of oh you're being women are involved. Therefore you are weak Man, I'm looking at what if couples attend this what if a husband or wife like look we need to restart something Let's go, you know, we'll invest in ourselves I have a little vacation mini getaway and let's just go to do this thing. We've got 21 con You know your dad. I'm you know husband wife will go together We'll come out better parents, you know better lovers better relationships Sometimes people just need that kickstart and nobody's offering that to women And we say we want women to be better and everyone in the world was like oh make women better And you're like i'm gonna do it like oh that's what the fuck you do it You're in the fucking nail in the head air hunter Yeah, because it is the man is fears and bitching for fucking who knows how many decades to that they want women to be better And women are so here the fuck we go. Yeah exactly attempt at that Yeah, and the people are mocking us to make fun of us or that it's a misguided, you know convention fuck them Did losers they just want to bitch bitch bitch and get nothing done no action. It's all talk no walk losers Sorry to interrupt. No, no, that's that's exactly it, you know when I see these two happening together that was my Assumption of your reasoning behind it. Yeah, look it can be happened at the same time if we're talking about families patriarchs And we're talking about helping women Bam now now some women will go just like some single guys go to patriarchs It makes sense But i'm looking forward to To coming off there and this husband and wife and you've had a few attendees Their wives don't attend the convention But their their wives are there in the hotel and so i'll sit down I remember one last year and he's like oh, this is my wife a lot And they were talking like how happy they are when they go through this and how the first one he attended He came back and like everything was better since then Yep, and that's it's just that little spark and here you are offering it to women And I don't see a negative to this at all. It's an option. We're trying something. Maybe it doesn't work Maybe we try something else later But how the fuck do you know until you put it into motion and that's what you're doing and very few of the balls to say They're going to take it on Yeah, yeah, i'm hoping some married couples will come out, you know, they get one goes to 22 obviously one goes to 21 I'm hoping they they they patriarch it up and walk out pregnant, you know We'll see make babies and cookies man. I keep saying it You're gonna there's gonna be a magazine the name dream really increased with babies named. Oh my god Yeah, i'm excited man. Yeah workshops for them, you know, steve asked maybe uh in the future definitely but off the bat, you know, we'll see I don't want to um I mean we're into workshops at patriarch obviously with a four-day convention on top of speeches and podcasts so It's just there's so much complexity and even with the film directors and shit We're all we're trying to figure out and how to do this at the same time. It's a it's a big deal It's a big production each convention will have three cameras Plus uh two photographers audio text like it's going to be fucking massive And i'm excited man. I think I think news is going to ape ship this shit, too We'll keep them out like usual, but uh, you know, maybe we'll let one end or something like that at the end So I don't fuck up the event Yeah, i'm stoked man. I'm pumped woman for a lot. We've had I've had the 22 convention domain since like 2015 So i've been thinking about this for a long time But it wasn't until I saw make woman great again and the red pill manuscript kind of influenced me that I could really put This together. I was like, yeah, this seems to happen And it's time, you know women have been declining I think and their femininity for decades in america and it sucks It sucks for men and it sucks for women and it sucks for it sucks for everybody I was talking to ken curry one of the speakers of the day And something bad had happened. I don't want to get into right now, but uh with one of the attendees But you know, he's talking about how our influence our work all of us as individual speakers and together It it literally changes and saves lives in some cases It's that on like life or death stuff and I say on top of that told him immediately I was like, I'm like, I agree and not only on top of that, but You know america does not have a future with unfeminine women and unmasculine men. That's the death of families It's the death of femininity. It's the death of masculinity The nation doesn't have the future. I mean you're talking like in a long enough time span You're just going to see economic collapse and and the real collapse of america. This will kill it Fuck politics. Fuck all this other bullshit going on If we don't have families and masculine men and feminine women, we don't have a future period That's like that's like roman, you know, stod collapse is what that is I think over the coming decades and it's getting it's getting weird man I mean, you're seeing you know marriage rates fall off divorce rates rise children are all fucked up single motherhood I mean, where does this go 40 years from now if we don't turn it around and nowhere fucking positive? That's where and I think that's what we're doing now. We're actually putting the nose to the grindstone I'm making this shit happen against any criticism and any odds. Fuck them Well, you know what the criticism is a little bit of a jealousy, but it's also a little bit of envy because A lot of people are not doing what you're doing a lot of people don't know how to do what you're doing so You know, misery loves company and and unfortunately for a lot of people they're not looking at the big picture instead of Pat you on your back They don't have to like you but at least respect what you're doing because not a lot of people are not doing that They're just getting on their soapboxes Spittin out a bunch of quote-unquote theory That's all what they feel and what they think and because some woman somewhere somehow Did something to them because they wasn't man enough to check her They want to all sudden Spew their cult-like mentality on a lot of impressionable young men Who are open, you know, they they you know a lot of guys don't realize Yes, they may be failed in relationships, but they don't realize that's okay But they they they make it where these young guys say well leave the women alone all together, man These women are just awful But they don't ever teach them about them And I think what you're doing sets everything aside anthony and I think it's sad It's just it's just really sad that people don't see you're you're you're trying to do good You know, it's always that one person's trying to do good in the world they get smashed by everybody who doesn't Hell about anything man. So it's just that's it's a price of money payment I've been doing that, you know for 13 years now with the convention taking shit left and right from people Or not and just throwing it, you know picking the shit up and throwing it back on their face Or just crushing it into their face whatever It's uh, it's part of the game It's part of you know being an entrepreneur and being a public figure and public speaker It's like you guys everyone here gets flock Whether it's on twitter and real life your shows youtube all over the place Yeah, it's a good fight man. It's one um, I'm very combative with stuff. So it's it's actually a lot of fun for me As you guys have probably figured out by now but yeah Well guys, I know hunter's got to get going in a minute. Um, you got shit in real life going on and uh We intend this to be a long show today. I appreciate everybody hopping on the show Including earlier donovan of course and george bruno Uh guys any closing thoughts on uh 2020 coming up Uh, not so much on the year closing. Well, I'll hit that later on I do want to say this closing out the decade with this convention the 18th one You know seeing the men moving forward several from this last 21 con hopped into foe These men are still continuing it forward, you know the changes a few guys, you know We swapped numbers and exchanged information to keep each other accountable and we're still messaging So what we're two weeks out from when we held it and in these two weeks These guys are already doing the work and that's the whole point of the 21 convention So the thing you've done is not just put on a show that provides videos lives are changing actions are being taken Families are improving men are improving the whole thing you've set out to do is working I'm glad that I was being a little part of it. And like I said, this is the 21 recaps I'm focusing it there the election isn't crazy shit coming down the pipeline. We'll talk about in future red man groups Yeah, but we fucking we fucking did it the thing we set out to do we did and we're closing 2020 or closing 2019 And heading into 2020 fucking fueled ready to go the anchors are cut. We're eyes forward. Let's fucking go Yeah, I'm hitting into uh 2020 guys Don't stop thinking about right now start thinking about tomorrow because One day you're gonna wake up your 18 you gonna blink you're gonna be 25 you'll blink again You'll be 30 you'll blink you'll be 15 You'll never know what your life could have been with a little great A little bit of direction to show you your value and your worth and what you can do as a man And there's nothing like having a family. I'm telling you guys It's one of the greatest feelings and accomplishments a man can have when he can look at what he has created in a wife and a family So uh soak that up and for the ladies out there that are also listening to this This is your opportunity to uh be around real men who have the thing that you are seeking Without trying to manipulate your deceiving. So going forward in 2020 is going to be these guys need to draw a line of sand and cross over Yeah, and I got to say too guys I can't thank you both enough individually as well as my other speakers, but especially youtube And your contributions this year and leadership and speaking and helping out and supporting everything what we do the videos the events But especially the events I mean hunter, you were not upholing you had your own F. O. E. Thing going on. Fuck. Yeah I know there's one coming up from florida too. I'm pencil coal. It's kind of cool. Yes, sir three months Yeah, but man, you were the patriarch, you know the chief patriarch of uh our first ever patriarch event I appreciate that immensely that was that was a big deal and I knew I was not able to lead that event because I'm not a father And I need someone to step up and you nailed it Steve you were at all three events this year. There's only a few speakers like that like you socrates aj at latimore And I appreciate that immensely man. It's a lot of work a lot of flights hotels speaking, you know preparation Working with the guys man busting your ass for days at a time People don't you know, they don't they see you not on the red man They see you now in the red man group right now They see maybe some interviews and speeches and all that we're putting yours out, you know asap But uh, they don't see the hard work that goes on for days at a time I mean even hunter both man hunter is legendary for samples six in the morning with these guys I know steve's conzi talking to these guys team man, you know, you'll meet with a hundred guys or whatever at the event And you talk to these guys day and night On I don't make you do that shit. I don't even ask you to do that. You just do it And that's the beautiful thing about it. I don't even have to ask or do anything like that You guys just do it and you bring you bring your a game bring your all And that's a man need and they need and they need that especially in real life face-to-face Whether it's foe events or 21 con or anything else Well, that's that gentlemen I'm gonna wrap up for today's show everyone else catch us next week 11 a.m sharp And you also see a paid We'll also check in on monday nights for the red man mindset Friday nights donovan steve are back online doing the red line. Fuck. Yeah they're the first one to get the last night in a while And thursday night's patriarch should be returning soon as well 8 p.m. Eastern, right? Yes, sir Yeah, we got a lot of filmed events film rmgs too. They'll be coming out savage ones from You know the recent event as well as pulling too and we got one more from patriarch put out as well in religion Yes, so our guys peace out. Thanks for tuning in live and talk to you next time