 There's the news star safety in town, Telenoa Hufongo. Welcome to the show. Darius Butler in the building or on Zoom anyway. He's got a new mayor of shutdown. City Mark Ingram stops by. Hit me up at Up and Atom Show with your under reactions from week four. I cannot believe we're looking ahead to week five and now. Let's go. He wins. What do you want him to do? He wins. San Francisco should be happy beating their rivals. The LA Rams 24 to nine on Monday night football. Kyle Shanahan has won now seven of eight over Sean McVeigh. Now that means that the playoff and the eventual Super Bowl ring, this whole thing with Aaron Donald, it doesn't really erase that they hate each other, by the way, and I kind of love it. So the Rams didn't have his or I want to start. Niners, I'm going to get to you. You're amazing. You're winning. You're excited here on the West Coast this morning. But the Rams didn't have a single offensive play of over 20 yards. And I think we have to ask ourselves why? Because that's flying around on Twitter. And there's lots of reasonable explanations for this, right? The offensive line is woeful. That's something people are discussing. And sure, that makes sense. It is. And he got sacked a million times and everybody got their hands on him. How about the lack of a traditional vertical threat? Yeah, I can see that. Sure. Maybe they do miss Odell. And maybe they do miss, you know, Bon Van Jefferson, I get. Or Cooper Cup makes plays downfield and absolutely can't. The third possible option here, if you're a logical, pragmatic, reasonable thinking person, is that maybe Matthew Stafford isn't right. And I think that's a valid question. We know he had offseason elbow surgery. I'm not a doctor. I'm not hot takey. But it's obvious watching him. This is a man who has the attack mentality. He's lacking that. That's not what I'm used to. He used to take shots down the field even when they weren't there. It is who he is. That is missing. And I'm getting some serious. And maybe this isn't a fair comparison. I'd love to hear from you guys at Up an Adam Show. I'm getting some serious big men vibes out here. You have to keep your eyes on this. He's the defending Super Bowl champions. It could be the O-line or it could be that he lost a little something or both. As for the Niners defense, that's the story. Of course, sacking Stafford seven times. We have an emerging star in safety, Telenoa, who phanga, he broke the game open. An incredible pick six will get to you with Darius Butler who's gonna join me here momentarily. And they held the McFay offense at three and a half yards per play. That is unheard of people. And they have a star at every position. Bosa on the edge, Warner at linebacker. Now who phanga, who's really been a stud all season and now cements himself on the bright lights with that amazing pick. And there's a four way tie now guys in the NFC West. Everyone's sitting pretty at even at two and two. Given the concerns with Stafford, I'm obviously gonna put all my faith behind the Niners right now. They have Debo, they have an underused George Kittle. They have a run again. They didn't even use as much as Stats wanted them to yesterday. And I trust Jimmy Garoppolo. Why does it feel like I have to defend myself the second I say that? I cannot hang with these Niners fans and you know who you are who wanna rip Jimmy. Is he Joe Montana? Is he Steve Young? No, but he wins. He wins you games, you spoiled people. Like, yeah, this is the guy who was, he's a put a smile on backup quarterback. A total professional handles his stuff better than anybody I've ever seen. As far as the weird, you know, circumstances of the whole thing. And he just took down your biggest, bad as best rival. Shut up you idiots who are trying to say that Jimmy isn't enough or Jimmy can't take them. Rest on your defense, figure it out. And, you know, in the NFC West, they're all even but the Cardinals don't look right. As great as Gino has been and what a story. The defense is rough. I'm not sure I can buy into them just yet or really ever. So to me, the Rams don't look good because of Stafford. I'm rolling with the Niners. I'm all over Jimmy as you're bringing Darius Butler here because you know him. You love him. He loves everything. Football, F1, two, everything in between one of our favorite family members. Am I wrong? I roll with Jimmy. Hey, you're not wrong at all. As a Colts fan, I actually wanted Jimmy. I wanted Jimmy to come in this year. Obviously he had the shoulder surgery through that whole timeline off. But I'm right there with you. Jimmy wins ball games. And obviously this is your biggest division rival. I think this is seven, seven in a row now for him. I guess this team. So yeah, you got to feel good about this team and the direction they're going right now. I loved, yeah. You had a great tweet last night. It was a piss poor showing by the Rams D-line. We'll get to that in a second. But this seemed to be the only thing that Bobby Wagner and company could stop. This is this man protesting, of course, animal rights and don't come after me, animal Twitter. I'm here for it. But can we see it? There it is. Darius, what happened here? What do you make of Bobby Wagner making a play? I mean, great hit, great form. Should have sent that guy to the blue tent to get going with some concussion protocol. Time and the place, obviously, these guys run on the field. They actually had a protest during one of the F1 races, too, where a guy, some people got on the track, but they thankfully safely got them off before they got hit by a car. But man, that's what should happen. If you take a field like that, that's exactly what should happen to you. You think you think, I mean, there's a photo. We maybe we'll pull it up. I'll send it to Conrad and he can put it up. You can say what you want. Poor man getting the Wagner achievement. I don't think that's what he thought he was signing up for. I think he thought he was signing up for the random security guard. Bobby eating a donut, barely catching up to him. He was not signing up for B-Wags. Yeah, we got to put these security guards through some type of combine or something every year. We got to check the fitness levels. If these guys get way too close to the field, obviously on the field, they got through 17 security guards so we got to vet those guards a little better going forward. What is your beef with the Rams defense? I mean, it's just the effort. The effort wasn't there. It's one thing to get beat. You know, it's the big boy league, right? Everybody's getting paid to make plays and sometimes guys are just gonna make plays. They're just gonna be better than you on certain downs. But I'm looking at the guys pre-snap, just body language, communication. They just didn't look ready a lot of the times and the same friend did whatever they wanted to do at the line of scrimmage. As far as getting on the edge, one of the first things you gotta take care of as a defense is the edge. You have to set an edge to your defense and turn a run game back inside to your pursuit and they weren't doing it. They got whatever they wanted all night and just allowed Jimmy to take the underneath things, which is fine, but you gotta stop running. You gotta stop something and they weren't stopping anything. So yeah, it's piss poor effort. I don't know where that came from. I haven't heard it since probably little league days, but it just fit. It was the right wording for what I was watching. These nine points the Rams put up, it took everything they had to get those nine points. Are you worried about the offense like I am? You know, I'm not that worried. I think they will figure it out. I gotta put some faith in Sean McVeigh. Now, if it is something to be concerned about, it's Matt Stafford's elbow, like you mentioned. And anytime a guy comes into the season and says, this is the best I've ever felt in my life. I said it on Pat McVeigh show that first heard it. I always raise a red flag. I never believe it. It's always a lie. And I think we can see that he's not feeling a hundred percent. But I mean, you're going into week five now and nobody's feeling a hundred percent. Everybody's gonna be banged up and dealing with something. So if you're taking the field, if you're out there, it's no excuses, no explanations as Tony Dunge would say. So they gotta figure it out. They gotta figure out how to get Allen Robinson involved. They gotta find a third receiver that they can trust and somebody outside of Cooper Cup. Because if you throw the ball to Cooper Cup every time, at some point, the good teams, the good defense is gonna figure it out. The good players, you saw Hufanga, he took that pick six to the house from a play that he knew was coming. He knew the screen game was going to Cooper Cup, picked it and took it back to the house 50 plus yards. So you gotta find some other weapons to get involved in the offense. What are your thoughts on Hufanga? This is Telenoa Hufanga, rising star fifth round draft pick. And he's insane. I know he trained with Palomalu. He's like under his wing a little bit, but what a play. He had a hair, I mean, head and shoulders. Go ahead and sign this man up. Give him an endorsement. He's the next guy in line. You had Clay Mathews, you had Palomalu. And he flashes. Every time I watch tape with this 49ers defense, I mean, they got a lot of guys who flash defensively, honestly. Mosley's been playing great. Fred Warner been playing great. Green line, everybody. Ward at the corner position. He came over, he's been a great signing for them. But Hufanga, he pops every game. He makes plays, he flies around. He always seems like he's a tick faster than everyone else on the field. And I'm excited to see his continued rise in this league. Let's get to some AFC talk here. And let's go to the north with that John Harbaugh call, right? He made a controversial decision. He went for the touchdown instead of a field goal. They lose 23 to 20. The bills come back. A lot of people include, I mean, Marcus Peters was heated. What did you make of it? You know, I liked the call. I liked it. You know, it's 2022, you know, coach of the going for all the time. And if you looked at how that game was going, the defense, they weren't getting a lot of stops. And that's kind of been the raven's MO this season. You know, giving up late, big leads. They did it against my dolphins down in Miami. Thank you very much. But this game, you know, he jumped out to a multiple score lead. And then the offense, Josh Allen had their guys rolling. So you want to leave the ball. You want to put the ball in your best player's hand. Your best player's Lamar Jackson. You go for it in that situation. I have no problem at all going for it. I would do that. I would make that same decision 100 times over, especially if I have to depend on my defense to go out there and get a stop. So I'm trying to get seven there. And then hopefully, even if Josh Allen drives down to get seven, we got a chance to go in overtime. But I got no problem at all going for it there. I do have a problem with the Marcus Peters, John Harbaugh, Spatman sideline. Obviously emotions run high during games. But you know, you got to be a pro in that moment. So hopefully he got some time to settle down. Those guys hashed it out. But I did. I hated to see that. Hated to see it, but it's one of those things where, yeah, I don't know why he gets a pass to me, but Marcus Peters just cares. I like to see that he cares. Yeah. He cares so much. And but him throwing his helmet, him having to be restrained. You never want to see that, of course. But Marcus Peters, you know, they know the talent that they have and they hopefully doesn't haunt them going forward. I want to get into the chiefs here because last week on this very program, you sort of downgraded, Darius, you did. You downgraded the chiefs. What did you say that they were 93 to 89 after that piss poor performance up against your Indianapolis Colts? And then Mahomes had something to say about that after quite the night. Do you have a regrade you'd like to? Yeah, right back up. Run the price right back up. Okay, right back up to 93. I apologize. I'm sorry. I should have never doubted Andy Reed, Eric, being in me and definitely not Patrick Mahomes to go out and do what he did in a hostile environment temple. He spoke about the memories he had down there and losing that Super Bowl. But that defense, one of the most talented defenses in the league. They just held, you know, A-Rod and that Packers offense to 14 points a week before. But to go down there and hang 41 on prime time, I think he sent a message to me and everyone else outside of the building and those guys in the building that he's still that guy and they're still one of the most potent, one of the most dangerous offenses in the NFL. So I overreacted last week. Okay, I overreacted downgrade him to 89. I was just looking for some cheaper guys but we're right back up to premium, baby. But they, I think they just, they somehow the Colts just have their number. Your team, that's what you can say that you can't beat me. Can't get it done against the Colts. That's it. Okay, we have to talk about something because you have, we looked it up yesterday at four pick sixes in your career, which is amazing. And so that means that you've had many, a big, large man chase you towards the end zone. This of course, viral on Sunday. It's Garrett Bulls, who we love. He put up his kid like Mufasa when Simba, when he had the draft and he had a baby on the stage. But this, you know, he, it was a late effort. What do you think? I mean, I love it. I love it. You know, everything is being evaluated. We always say as players, as coaches, and this is Bulls giving a hundred, one thing you cannot doubt is that Bulls gave a hundred percent effort on this play. He know he had absolutely no chance on getting Robertson there. Great play by Robertson too. Great awareness and then great return to take that back for six. But I love the effort and that clip will live on the internet forever. So thank you, Garrett. And now there's Mario sound clips to it. And even his wife, did you see this? His wife Natalie Bulls just chimed in and said, I'd be lying if I said I didn't die laugh in good effort though, babe. But you love to see Darius. You love to see the family getting in on the fun. You love to see it. You gotta make a light of it. I'm sure, like you said, this will be, this will live on the internet forever. I actually have a bad memory. So I got four pick sixes, but I should have had five. I actually had probably my best interception in my entire football career against Denver. And I was, oh my God. And I was going back to the house and be up Garrett Bulls. He might've, his, the ghost of Garrett Bulls might've died and took out my hammy and held me to four. So I still only have four, but I always remember the one that should have been. So what happened after that? Did you miss time yet? What happened after that? Oh my God. Yeah, what happened after that is I walked off to the side and I put some ice and hit it to the locker room, Kay. I was done. And that's what happens when you come back too fast from another injury. So take your time, guys. Make sure your body's right before you get back out there. But that would have been one of my greatest plays ever if I was able to take that back and just walk through. I can't, I want to joke about it. I can't, cause you got hurt. That was a handshake. That went from Garrett Bulls to this real, that's insane. Riddle me this though, in the film room in Denver, the next day, and they're playing that. What's everyone saying? Like what goes on in that film room? Well, I mean, since they lost, you know, it's maybe they just make fun of it in their old line room when the play comes up. But as a team, you know, we're not keykeying and joking about it since we caught that L. But if they did get a win, they would definitely have that on replay. I would be the coach. That's one of those things in that first team meeting after the game, the coach will save that play to the very end and we'll get a good pop out of it. But the old line, I'm sure they'll have their phone with it, but they got a short week this week. They're gonna go up and get beat up by my coach on Thursday night football. So I don't think they'll be laughing too much about that play. That's true. No, Javante Williams in that one. We've got lots of updates for Thursday night football. But enough of this riffraff and chit chat. Take me to shutdown city. Ooh, let's go back and shut down city. All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. We're back. I'm having fun with this. I enjoyed it. So we got Patrick Sartain, who he may be a long-term resident in shutdown city based on what I've seen in the early part of his career. I mean, he's been outstanding in coverage, matched up on one of the best receivers in the game, Devontae Adams. Devontae got his yards, made some great catches, but Sartain had a shutdown performance once again. And like I said, he'll be there for a while. Then you brought to the Pittsburgh Jets game. And I've been looking at this guy all year. I wanted to invite him last week, but he took an L. They got to win this time. Sauce Gardner, winning the top of the draft for a reason, making plays, locking down, tackling, great in the pass game, great in the run game, plays like a seasoned vet. And then I got my mayor in Dallas. Who is it? Cowboy, Trevon Diggs, led the league in the exceptions last year with 11, not getting the ball at the same clip he got last year, but he's locking guys down. A lot of people had a lot to say about his game in this pre-season, but he's stepping up to the plate and taking the step up from his all pro season last year. So Trevon Diggs is the mayor of shutdown city this week. He allowed a 0.0 passer rating, I think, according to PFF this past week. He doesn't really get the love, I feel like, Diggs. So I appreciate that. And you were getting hated on for not putting Sauce Gardner on shutdown city last week. What's up? I try not to. It's hard to get a guy on with L's and I had to get certain just because he's been so good. He's probably, if you ask corners in the league right now, a lot of them would say he's the best corner in the league right now. And I'm probably on him and Darius Slay. It's a toss up right now who I'll take number one. We love to see it. Darius, before we let you go, we know you're an F1 guy. We know I'm not an F1 girl, but Charles Leclerc? That's good. That's good enough. Is it Leclerc? Leclerc? It's Leclerc. I actually heard him pronounce it multiple ways too. Leclerc, Leclerc. So Charles. Leclerc is better. Charles Lecler, that works. Let's do Leclerc. Charles Lecler, he had your back this weekend, right? And he made the podium in Singapore and that is part of your patented Darius Butler boost. Can you teach me a little something? Give me a lesson. Compare Charles Leclerc to a current NFL player of the season. Ah man, this, probably Matt Stafford, honestly. You know, he's got all the talent in the world. Obviously he has a great fast car. He got a great play caller, but he has a little gene in him that can just, he can turn over and you saw Matt Stafford, he tried to throw about three more picks last night. So Charles has a little bit of that in him, but he held it down this past weekend in Singapore. He was actually the only part of the boost that hit. He got on the podium. Louis Hamilton was supposed to finish top six, but he had a tough race. A lot of drivers had a tough race out there in that track. Actually, I will never bet on that particular track ever again. It was off the schedule for a couple of years for a reason. I found out this past Sunday. So we're not betting on Singapore? No, we're staying away from Singapore. One of the toughest tracks out there. We're staying away from Singapore. That's all I heard. The Rams are gonna be okay. Hupanga's the real deal and we're staying away from the track in Singapore and that's why Darius Butler is the best. We've got a new mayor of shutdown City, Mr. Trevon, Trevon Diggs. Let us know what you think at Up and Atom Show. Darius, we appreciate you. Have a good week. Thank you, Casey. See you next week. And you're killing it on ESPN. I loved that. I found so much smarter. Hey, I like that, man. I'm having fun with my guys out there. Greg and old Sal Powell. Yeah, a little different from Pat McAfee, but it's a lot of fun to watch. No, you can switch it up. It's really, really impressive. I love it. All right, Darius Butler is out of here. Mark Ingram is on his way in. Week four is coming gone. See ya. But you got to pick up some new guys off the waiver wire for your fantasy team. I've got that for ya. Ingram thoughts on the Saints. Can they turn it around? It's all next. I'm not not sad that this season's going this fast. I cannot believe we are through an entire month. I've lived here an entire month, a month and a week. And I still don't have furniture. And that's just how my life is going. But maybe by, you know, we should hit the fandom of a sports book for this. When will Kay have a couch, a TV? When will she call the geek squad to come? I have to get like mounts and all of that. It's a devastating process. One more month? Wow, Brian, nope, that's... I don't know, I was thinking about the playoffs in one month, but we are through that. So let's get to it because the one thing I do do, I'm not good at being an adult human, but I'm great at fantasy football. And I'm great at spending my time instead of doing things like, oh, I don't know, paying rent and, you know, learning how to be a human. But instead I look at the waiver wire options and I look at things. That's why we are here to show you about Tyler L. Geer. Here's the deal. This is such a bummer. I love Cordellor Patterson. He's out, he suffered a knee injury. He's out at least four. So Tyler L. Geer is a top priority. This is my number one pick because he showed up against the Browns. It's a, you know, obviously they're running a lot in this Falcons offense. He had over a hundred total yards, 11 touches after Patterson's injury. And he's still available in like 80% of league. So I would also put in just a little warning, a little asterisk here. Caleb Huntley, that's his teammate, a little backup plan because obviously he's gonna be involved in some way in that rotations. And he was good for 10 carries for 56 yards and a score. Now, Givante Williams is done for the year. So I give you Mike Boone. It's a torn ACL. Melvin Gordon, how doghouse he is, he would as Nathaniel Hackett have him. I don't know, but he has a fourth fumble in as many games. It's terrible. So Hackett was talking to big game yesterday about trusting Gordon. I don't know. I'm gonna go ahead and say Mike Boone might be the guy because he seems to be the more trusted option at least for now. And he's still available in over 90% of leagues. I do believe that Mike Boone will have a solid workload going forward. And what an opportunity for him to be the guy. Don't cough up the ball, be a hero. All right, we're done with the running backs. Let's move on to Michael Gallop. He made a season debut on Sunday. I've always been a fan of his. And he made his impact felt immediately. He scored a big touchdown, only played on 64% of Snapson and two catches on the day. But that was, you know, to be expected. It's his first game back. His workload, I think, does go up from here. And his production will, too, once Dak gets back. Another wide receiver very much connected to his quarterback here is George Pickens. The picket to Pickens thing is real. He's a talented rookie, but he only had five catches through three games. The week four breakout was real. Six catches, 102 yards. He's got a connection with his quarterback, Kenny Pickett, who's obviously expected to be named the starter. So I think this relationship is going to flourish. Grab Pickens now when you have the chance. Wasn't it was Pickett named the starter? Yeah. You're starting Pickett? Yeah. They're gonna roll Pickett out there. Okay, now in this last one, before you give me your Twitter venom, who, why, what league would this guy be available in? How old are you playing in a 14 league? Listen, if you're lucky enough to be in the 50% of fantasy leagues, all right, I'll look over here, that haven't scooped up most are, yeah, you need to go grab him. He has to share touches with Chase Edmonds, but he's snatching up more and more of the workload with each passing week. He was out there on a season high, 72% of dolphin snaps on Thursday night and racked up 81 yards on 17 touches. That is must own ball you. So most are, if he's available, and I get it, he's probably not, but I felt weird not putting it on there because the numbers say 50% leagues do have him. Tyler Algier, Raheem Mostert at running back, also with Mike Boone, and then Michael Gallup and George Pickens for your wide receiving pleasure. I'm doing my overreactions to week four later in the show. Terry Spultler was here, Mark Ingram will join us. Please hit us up at Up an Adams show, but you guys have been tweeting some stuff and I like this one. Can we get the Patrick Ricard one? Yeah, Patrick Ricard, we're under reacting to him. He should be making 10 million a year. The way he blocks, he creates, how he protects, the mar, he's never fully appreciated. I like that. This is a pro bowler, guys. This is a pro bowler for three straight seasons. Raven's fans, I will say this, Raven's fans appreciate him. Project Pat, they like him. I have a sweatshirt from Patrick Ricard. He's fantastic. He also catches the ball, right? He lines up, he plays special teams. He's super versatile. He's, you know, what a chorea, Aikman not want to say yesterday that Erdo was at Scott Van Pelt last night, said, I don't, I don't want to call Debo Samuel of Swiss Army Knife, but he is. That's what Patrick Ricard is in his offense. And he should be talked about, you know, kind of in, I think the same vein as like a Taysum Hill is for the Saints. And how he's nationally regarded is that Ricard does it all. He's filled in his defensive tackle. Am I wrong at Up an Adams show? All right, what else we got on Twitter? We've got one from LPG NYG license plate guy. All right, a hundred percent giants being three and one. We are under reacting to this. Let's go. I don't know that our show is underreacting to this. I'm sure New York is not underreacting to this, but the track to the matter is this team has not been three and one since 2011, I believe. And you know, I'm not going to say it. We know what happened that year. We know what happened that year that they started the season at three and one. Do I think it happens this year? I don't know, but it's kind of fun to see. All right, one more before we go to break here. The Putrid Lions defense. All right, well, the fun little stat on Twitter, of course, is that the Lions offense and defense are allowing, you know, they're, well, the defense is allowing the most points in the NFL to see even the scoring 35 points a game and allowing 35.25. So that's, that makes for fun football. You're not going to, I don't know what you, what did you expect from this line squad other than fun and being a hard out for team. So we are very much Dan Campbell fans. They got the bump from hard knocks, of course, and it's carried over through the season. Their former number one wide receiver, of course, Kenny Galladay, now with the Giants doing Diddley Squat. Bruce Beck couldn't tell us anything about it. He's getting one target a game. They're paying him, he's disgruntled. So that's something to monitor, of course. If anybody knows what's going on with Kenny Galladay, let me know. Maybe I'll text Victor Cruz and he'll know and I'll bother him. But he's probably in Paris, like eating gelato and taking pictures with his shirt off. All right, more of our show coming up. We've got this guy. He is back from the UK, Mark Ingram. Victor Cruz out here just catching strays on up and Adam's show, but Mark Ingram joining us after this. Woo! Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm ready for war. I'm destined for greatness. That's where to behind me that lead. I'm up on the scene. I told you I'm up on the scene. Yeah, I'm ready for war. I'm ready for war tonight. I'm ready to set a score. Set a score tonight. One of the most universally beloved NFL players there ever was. He joins us every week on up and Adam's currently in his 12th season in the NFL. Playing for those Saints, a superstar running back, Mark Ingram. How are you? Okay, what's up, man? The intros love. The intros always love and I appreciate it, so thank you. Of course. Tell me about your trip, of course, disappointing loss, but was there any fun to be had? What was the best part of that trip out to London? I think it was just spending time with the guys, man, just being able to eat, being able to hang out, cakey, just get close with the guys, man. You spend a lot of time together, but when you're in another country with people like, you spend time with different teammates, man, this is great to meet everybody, see some of their families, just learn more about them. But other than that, I would say it also was the match we went to. It was England national team versus Germany. That was a great experience. We did that when we first got there. So that was one of the highlights of the trip as well. I love that. I know you tried to buy one of those teams. It didn't quite work out because you already have a soccer team there. And, you know, dad, give a shout out to them, of course. I need the gear. I got you. See, listen, what size, what size you need? I need like probably like a medium because I want it to be big, like this. Okay. So I told you I was going to work on that when I got back from London and we're going to work on fresh levels here. We're going to get you some DC United gear. We're going to get you right. What made you, what made you want to invest in DC United? Like that's such a that's if I don't, I need to know the story behind that. Well, the growth, I mean, soccer, well, football is what the rest of the world calls it, you know, is the world sport. I mean, just to grow forward in America has a huge room to grow. I mean, you go around some of the weekends, all you see is soccer, you know, at all the parks. So many young kids are playing it and you could just look at our national team. You could look at the MLS, how fast it's growing. It has the biggest room for growth out of any sport. You know what I mean? So, especially in our country. So just a great thing to be a part of. World Cup coming in North America in 2006. It's going great, man. So it's a lot of bright for the future of soccer in America. I love that. And you got to see some of that out there in London. Now you're back. And, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't a goal that that took you out of this game, but it was a kick, you know, to use the soccer segue there. And it was, it was heartbreaking. And it was, you know, the Vikings have had their share of heartbreak too. So it was nice to see it, you know, as an NFL fan break right for them. But it was, it was really tough. And you, my friend, I was thinking about you. You've dealt with those heartbreaks. You've experienced a ton, the Minneapolis miracle, the no-call, all of that. What is the toughest on-field heartbreak that you have gone through in your 12-year career? Man, it would have had to been that no-call probably in the NFC Championship game. I mean, we're men in whatever, 20 seconds away from being in the Super Bowl. You know, we get that, we get that first down. We can run the clock out, kick a field goal, we in the Super Bowl, you know what I mean? So that was probably the toughest one. That was probably the toughest one. Yeah. And you had Sean Payton, of course, pick you guys up after that and you're always keeping you competitive. After a loss, like, you know, this isn't the start to the season you imagined for yourself in personal goals, I'm sure, and the team, you know, with what they want to do. And I know you want to win a Super Bowl. It's important to you. And it's a real thing. Like, who's in that locker room, you know, pushing and it's not easy to pick yourself up after a loss. It's a first and foremost, DA is just doing a great job for us, you know, just encouraging us and, you know, also holding us accountable. You know, it starts with him and then just all the leaders in the team, man. We just have a great group of guys who, we just know that we're a really talented team. When we're playing how we're supposed to be, not hurting ourselves, you know what I mean? Turning the ball over, giving up explosive plays, not doing things the best of teams the right way. We're not doing things the right way. Love and feel in the NFL is just so close. So all the plays are crucial. All the players matter. You never know when the most important play is going to matter. So you got to approach every play as such. And we have way too many good guys in the locker room, both on and off the field. And we're holding each other accountable. And the good thing about it is the season is still young. The season is still early. We have a chance to turn this thing around. So that's what we plan to do this week. It's true. Now you got hurt in that game. I saw Latavius Murray got signed by another team, which is wild. How are you feeling? Tell everybody. No, I'm feeling fine. My thumb was kind of like getting stuck on me. Like I was trying to squeeze the ball. We were about to go off our next possession. And like my thumb was like kind of cramping. It was like just kind of stuck like that kind of. And I had to get that right. I'm like, I need some fluids. They were just making sure there was nothing wrong with my thumb. And I was trying to get back out there as quick as possible. I was able to come back. But yeah, I had a little small issue with the thumb going on. And but I'm feeling good this week. I'm feeling good today. Did you happen to see John Harbaugh's decision to go for it? Yeah, I kind of heard about it because we were on the plane coming back. So I kind of saw it over social media and stuff like that. So what's your take? Like, and you're on the plane and everybody's chiming in about it. And obviously like John Harbaugh's always going to kind of go for it. Marcus Peters hated it. I've just asked Arius Butler about it. What did you think? Hey, like that's the MO of Baltimore, you know, it's being aggressive. And, you know, for him that's trying to put the game away, I'm sure everyone kind of supported it. You know, Lamar usually, you know, makes that call as well. Like, let's go for it. Let's go for it. That's just been the MO. You know, the two years I spent there, we were very aggressive going for it on fourth down and going for it in the red zone, having faith in the defense, giving them a short field to be able to stop them. We always kind of relied on that team kind of, you know, ball together, you know? If you got it, you know, you have a touchdown. If you don't, the defense has them back back and you hope that they can get a stop. But it's hard. It's hard. Obviously in the grand stream of things, you wish you took the points, but if they scored a touchdown and they won the game, you know, par ball is looking like a genius, you know? So it is what it is, you know? And he usually does. I mean, Marcus, I'm defending, am I wrong to defend Marcus Peters in this one? Is he justified in being so emotional? Listen, he's one of the great players and he knows what it takes to, you know, play at the highest level and he wants to win games. A lot of us put things into this game, man. We're blessed with and tears lots of time, lots of sacrifice and, you know, it gets heated on those sidelines on Sundays and I don't think it's anything personal, but I just think everyone wants to play to their best ability and everybody wants to win. So when, you know, sometimes confrontations and stuff like that happen, but y'all love each other, you keep it pushing. Everybody has a common goal, one to win and one to be champion. So I think that's what they can fall back on. And it's so true. They got to figure out this, you know, they've been in the hole, losing these leads by 17, you know, in two games this year or so. But like you said, this season is young. I know you've got love for them, even though you are full on trying to get the Saints turned around and getting things done for them. Yeah, we've been national all day. You don't get it right, baby. Yeah, Marcus Peters is good at getting heated and he's passionate. You're good at giving hype speeches. And that's what you do. So I wanted to sort of ask you as we, you know, first up, let's take a little look. Just so everybody out there knows, you can reset. Let's take a look. Now I would just like to introduce you all to the man, the myth, the legend. Aaron Jones, keep balling my dog. The MVP front runner, James Bond, 007. If anybody else got to say something different about that, then come see me. I'm a fan of you. You know how much I respect you. How much I love you and your game and your family. I'm right here and be more outside the bank. Golden eye, the man, the myth, in the flesh himself. I'm about that. Keep getting your money. Big trust. We gonna pip, pip. Woo, woo. He told that rock properly, man. How it's supposed to. Lamar Jackson. It's all love in it. Big trust. After I pip, pip, I'm gonna go faff around in it. Rob. My favorites. When you go, we gonna pip, pip. Woo, woo. I don't know where it comes through, but it just makes me happy. The entire stage here is laughing. So, You know, we faffing around. Love to do it. Yes. Okay. So now you have a microphone. So here's what we're going to do. This is your very own up and Adam's show segment. We're calling it mark my words. And everyone can tweet things that you want. Mr. Mark Ingram to hype up cause nobody does it better. So let's pretend it's post game. I'm gonna give, you know, why want you to give some love and hype up an NFL player? And I've got a couple of options for you. Now I know Josh Jacobs is your boy. Alabama alum. He finally popped off career high 144 yards last weekend against the Broncos. Or last night there was a hero on the field in his safety. Telenohu Fonga, right? He had a pick six for the, against the Rams. It was beautiful. Give a hype speech to one of those guys. Listen, we respect the pick six, but you know I gotta go. Bambo boy. Josh Jacobs in the flesh. My dog told that rock been true. Hey, been told that rock. Not new to it. True to it. You feel me? So keep telling that rock, Josh. Top five in the league in Russian. Keep putting the flow. Keep, keep putting your photo. Your foot to the ground. Let's go. Keep getting after it, boy. I love you, man. Roll tight and keep toting rock out there in Vegas, man. Keep doing your thing, boy. I love you. Have you hit him up after that kind of game? Hey, me and Josh, we tight, man. We expect to edit each other. You know what I mean? That's the standard, nothing less. Every time you go out there, you're trying to dominate and make game changing plays to help your team win games. And that's what he did. So gotta highlight them. Gotta show them love. Gotta hit them up. Gotta hype them up. That's all day, Josh Jacobs, baby. Let's get it. I love that you're still having the fake mic in your hand, which makes me really happy. I also want to show you, just because this is something that I feel like you can pop off on. Zach Wilson, they gotta win too, right? You know, Zach Wilson, at least celebrating a touchdown dance. And he did the gritty, which you've seen up close and personal, many a time on the field. What rate this gritty? Hey, my boy did his thing though, man. Like, I ain't trippin', like, you go out there, you on the road, you get it done. That boy cranked the gritty on him. It was kind of clean. It was kind of smooth, man. Zach, I'm foolin' with you, dawg. You know, I'm foolin' with that. That's kind of clean, bruh. That's kind of clean. It's not bad. And then, just to keep the quarterbacks going, here, Kirk Cousins did it after that win in London. We don't wanna show it, cause whatever, but it was not great. Nah, we ain't showin' none of that. Yeah, but it was not great. It was not great. And then, but there's some, there's other quarterbacks who've given it a try. Mac Jones, I think, had a, had one that the interwebs had a fun with. That's, that's a... Hey, he kinda, he kinda, you know, he kinda put some sauce with it. Kinda put the old Mac Jones sauce with it, you know what I mean? He kinda did it in the, oh, I remember in the Pro Bowl, I think I kinda watched that. And he did it after like a run or whatever. But yeah, he put a little sauce on it. Mac Jones, Roll Tide, another one of the Belma boys. You know, we showin' love. That's nice. All the big Belma boys. A little sauce on it. It looks a little skipped to my loo, like a, la, la, la. Yeah, it kinda just, ain't, kinda just rock with it a little bit. Yeah, I saw, there's a good footage of you doing that. We looked it up yesterday, you doing the Antonio Brown one. That was real, you, you can dance, Ingram. This, yeah, yeah. Catchin' the vibes, just catchin' the vibes, that's it. Here's my question. Can you, if you have it in you, and I think you do on this Tuesday, cause hype speeches make the world go round. Can you, can you inspire some of these quarterbacks that, you know, guys who maybe think they might be able to hit the gritty, but they're too scared to, guys who like need, guys who need that Mark Ingram love to get them, you know, we need a Matt Stafford. I need to see if Tom Brady hit the gritty. Like, you know, what do you got? Tell, tell these guys how to, how to, how to do it. Listen, whatever you gonna do, you gotta do it. Have confidence, believe in yourself. Just make sure you game ready. You go ahead and hit that thing a couple of times in a mirror, you know what I mean? Make sure you right, make sure you prior time ready. Whether it's the gritty, whether it's that put that A, B, that put that stuff on whatever it may be, you know what I mean? Just make sure you ready, prior time ready. You gotta make sure you right. Hit it, have confidence, believe in yourself, don't crank it, let's get it. Mark Crankett, call somebody out, call out a player or quarterback that needs to hit the gritty. Quarterback needs to hit the gritty. Davis Mills, down there in Houston, I need you to hit the gritty. Davis Mills. Yeah, Millie, that's my boy, big Millie. I need you to hit the gritty, bro, let's get it. Big Millie, get hit the gritty. I love everything about this. What'd you make a DK Metcalf's cart to the bathroom? Hey, man, you gotta do what you gotta do to get there. You know what I mean? You gotta do what you gotta do. If he needed the cart to get there, so big. I used the cart to get there. He said the clinch walk wasn't gonna work. The clinch walk was not in fact going to work. Now, have you seen anything like this before? Man, I haven't seen the cart going to the bathroom I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. I've seen people run off real quick, like, gotta go. Like Lamar. You know what I mean? Yeah? Lamar did that last year. But he said that he didn't have to poop, I think. He said that. Everybody else thought it was the poop walk. He said he didn't have to, so I don't know. He didn't admit to you guys that it was the poop walk? I was under the impression that he was cramping. I think that was the story that I was told after that. He was cramping, so we ran into the bathroom that the media uses and stuff out there. I think he had to get an IV. He got an IV in the bathroom? That little bathroom? Give me a break. Was it a little bathroom? I think he did go in there. Maybe he didn't. I thought he went to the locker room. I think the world at large thinks that he had to poop, which is fine, everybody poops. That was the discussion after it, but I was under the impression that he was running into the locker room too. Oh yeah, and Lamar Jackson did speak after that y'all trip and I definitely, isn't there a better solution for this? Because Mark, here's what you have to understand, because you're still very much in the NFL. I told you, where's the city? Where's the city? You were taking it. I know, but here's my problem. You players have to do that and that's fine, but as a fan at home, or if you're in the booth and you're having to tweet and your job is to say what's going on in the game, you think something happened to DK. You think, oh, you're looking back at plays, trying to rewind, trying to say like, where did he roll his ankle? Where did he, so shouldn't there be a better solution? I think there should be a poop mobile. A separate golf cart, a comfortable one that takes players in and out for that, because otherwise we think something's really wrong. I think it was just an emergency. I've never seen nobody use the cart, you know what I mean? So, usually get it done before the game, maybe half time, but like during is a little crazy, but hey, you had to get it done, man. I love poop talk with Mark Ingram. You were the absolute best. Get back, get in that locker room, get this team turned around. I know you can, and you will. Yeah, for sure. We will, we're gonna get it done. It's starting this week. All right, you're the best. Josh Jacobs, that is coming to you, that hype speech, you'll be back after this. On Up and Atoms, you've got much more to come. My under reactions, I mean, I don't think we do three minutes on poop. I really didn't, but here we go. Everybody, because we had a lead, we relinquished the lead, and we bought ourselves back in one freaking game. That's a freaking NFL win. We had all the fun this week, you know? That's on Thursday. How do I work, Jim? We got out here, you guys, we got pros through and through, able to battle all the way down to the very, very end. Unbelievable performance. Yes! Hey, what's that for four? It's my one, my 100. Get it done, that's all we gotta do. We stay with us, and we do us. That's it. Love y'all boys. Here you go, not a win. We'll get your first five more minutes. Yes, sir. Week four was awesome. There's so many two-and-two teams, too. So there's a lot of optimism, a lot of teams wanting to turn it around and break it right. As you just heard Mark Ingram say, the Saints still have a chance. It's early in the season to get that done each and every week. There's so many underreactions and overreactions coming up from everywhere. So the underreacting storylines that we need to play a little bit closer attention to, I think in this one from last night's game, of course, Matthew Stafford's elbow. Everyone's talking offensive line. Everyone's talking you're missing a guy opposite Cooper Cup. You need a deep threat. You need somebody else's eyeballs out there, but Matthew Stafford not taking shots. Not taking shots downfield. No, it doesn't look right. Giving me a little big Ben vibes. So that's definitely something that I think we are underreacting to. And have underreacted since it was reported that Matthew Stafford underwent surgery and something we very much need to pay attention to because this is supposed to be one of the absolute powerhouses in a watered-down NFC. And now it looks like it's the Eagles and the Packers and everybody else until someone unseats them. But another underreaction to week four stuff was Deontay Johnson saying that it's a rebuilds. Do we, do we have this? Everybody won the winning. I mean, obviously it's a rebuild in a year. Not gonna use that as an excuse. It don't matter who's that quarterback or whoever's in any position. It's our job to get it done and win games. But it's still for us in general. So that's what we got to do, win. That's all I'm focused on, is winning. If you're like a Kaboli or Kabali, I forgot to say, how does he say his name? Kaboli, you've got to be just, that's like juice to your ears. It's something you've never heard before. I've never heard of it before. Tomlin's been there 15 years. They don't have rebuilding years and 15 seasons under Tomlin, they don't have a losing record. You know, even going back before Tomlin to the Bill Cower years, the Steelers have one losing season. The Steelers have one losing season this millennium. So to hear that sort of like, was the record scratcher sound bite of the week for me. And I think people are letting it sort of fly under the radar or Pittsburgh fans are like, oh, he didn't mean to say it. But is that what, you're going from inside that locker room and hearing somebody say that. So what's really going on? And another thing we're underreacting to when we talk about that Steelers team, by the way, is the defense. And they're everyone saying, oh, it's TJ Watt when he gets back. They have stars, they've got Mink of its Patrick, they've got TJ Watt and they make some plays. But they were a bottom 10 defense last year with a healthy TJ Watt. Now they don't have him. They're not going to be much better. The defense, which is something you never think when you think Steelers, a huge challenge, a huge issue, a huge thing that needs to be talked about and needs to be turned around. If they're going to support Pickett or Trebisky or whoever is under center there in Pittsburgh. Next up, so we overhype everything about the Buffalo Bills. And they deserve credit, but we hype up every little thing. And the Buffalo Bills erasing a 17 point comeback on the road in Baltimore, somehow flew under the radar, somehow didn't get any love, didn't get any recognition. And I'm a little worried, are we normalizing the things that the Bills are doing week in, week out? We spent so much painstaking, excruciating time debating John Harbaugh's late game decision. Look what I did. I asked both of our guests today about it. Mark Ingram, because he played here, Darius Butler, because he has great takes. And we did all this. I don't feel like we've given the Bills their due for erasing a 23 halftime deficit on the road to get a top tier opponent a loss. Jordan Poyer came through. That's who I want to give love to. He's under reacted to clutch, two interceptions in the fourth quarter. Devin Singletary stepped up 96 total yards. Josh Allen did use his legs to make a difference. He rushed for 70 yards and a score. The Bills showed that even when they don't have explosive plays in them or their passing game isn't working, they find ways to win and that is under reacted to. It's not about Josh Allen. Stop showing me clips of Josh Allen. It's about the team and what they're able to do. We have to get out of here. No, we can't do our undone. Oh, well that wasn't mean, yes, in my ear Conrad. Jesus, can we stay or could we have to go? We have to break? We'll be back after this. We've got one more. Maybe I'll put that one on Twitter. It was about Mike McCarthy. How Mike McCarthy is it that we didn't get to get to him in this segment? We'll be back after this. When I was in elementary school we had a thing called the star pupil. That's kind of what this is like. It's hit the lights on a player who had an outstanding performance and it is Gino Smith. Remember when this offense was not humming and everyone was screaming, don't get rid of Russell Wilson and should we trade for Baker? Why don't we draft a quarterback? I'll make a big swing. Four weeks in, I think that's pretty clear. Pete Carroll and company knew a little something about Gino Smith and maybe we didn't. The former Jets second round pick a full time starter for the first time in nine seasons. And I just love a rewrite. You guys know how I feel about this. I love the second act. After leaving the Seahawks to 48 points in this amazing win over the Lions. He hits the quarter pole of the season with the third highest passer rating in the NFL, behind just two in the homes. He sets an NFL record with 77.3% completion percentage through his first four games. This has been so fun for Seahawks fans which I love to see seeing Gino not only lead them to that week one win over Russell Wilson and maybe, oh, maybe it's a cute story and then it'll go away. But he is pretty much shown Russell Wilson up in every major passing category to start this year. That's fun. That feels good for these fans, right? So we'll see if he can keep it going, but for now he is the week four star pupil a shot at redemption. Oh, rewrite. Hit the lights for Gino Smith. Okay, we'll be back tomorrow with gosh knows who, Gal Lee, Eric Guero and the Great List. Don't miss it.