 I'm hearing so many complaints. Jesus. All right. I guess the fucking podcast off. We're not doing it podcast cancelled Also, we're gonna have to once again keep an eye on chat for mic levels. Apparently I was louder than everybody last time and I fiddled with my Oh, I thought you were referring to someone named to mic levels I've never heard of him before This is a crazy stalker Plastic mic infamous chat asshole All right, according to youtube video details we're live. So that's the one start We started that's a good start. Yeah, but nothing in chat yet. You know, this is like you just roll the dice every time I hit start Yeah, you got to wait like 20 seconds for chat to catch up. It's kind of ridiculous Chat like what what's going on roll the dice? Oh, so definitely they're gonna be smirching you chat There's three likes that means somebody's seen something Well, no, that means we've done something good. Whatever we did keep it up Yeah, whatever we did got us three likes if we can just everyone in that for 10 hours Then we'll be set everyone mash your keyboards with your foreheads if you can hear us No, we're gonna get Yes, yes, yes more more more. There we go chat is on screen. Hello. How do you do? Ah, I've already got someone who's noticed hack fraud media. Yeah, it's been a while Like do you remember when I was contacted you at the abs. I was like, oh my god the last message I said to you a year ago Time fucking travels fast. What could I say? Um, yeah, we we try and get some new blood in every once in a while here and there and uh You're you're one of the people who rudely attacked the force awakens. So Oh, very rudely Yeah, we try to keep our new blood positive. Yes new positive HIV. No, wait, that's the wrong one Yeah, the you uh, you would have to tfa add you were doing a sort of homage celebration of a plinket. So Slash parody slash. Yeah So you had like a whole big set of responses for your uh, your first foray into criticism I think I think people want more now though. They're like you're a copy but keep going You're like, okay Oh my god bargain bin plinket. I'll take it That's the thing. I don't even know if he's gonna cover rise of skywalker. He seems so done with star wars Yeah, he does it looks like he's gonna do star trek instead Yeah, they were they did like a bit of a hint that he's gonna do the card Yeah, he did a trailer didn't I I saw that like what the fuck? I think it's like, uh If you compare their discussions about Picard and star trek with their discussions of star wars, it's clear which one they care about more They seem as well to Like and this is fair to a degree right judging different media with different Lenses to a degree like it's certainly for them because they they see it as uh Star Wars is allowed to be goofier But to me it always felt like they let star wars get away with so much shit that they don't let other things get away with I think so. I I think they they definitely hold it to a much lower standard than they do like star trek. It's Clearly something that they hold more seriously And well, I'm sure they would say I think it was star trek is a higher brow in general So it should be held to a higher standard or something like that, you know It certainly presented itself that way Yeah, uh, it's like it's more interlocutal as one might say while star wars is more Funtisms and adventure and action Funky locutal. Yes No, then they've kind of tried to morph it into star wars with like the latest batch of movies and it's just been a horrendous disaster Interlocutus Yeah, maybe it's more complicated to break down Why star trek is in flames as well because star wars like again, I'll just keep saying it They don't know which way is up. That's where we're at while with star trap. It's probably Probably more complicated. They're like Our star trek is pretty much just make everyone run around and yell things at each other constantly and like Camera shots. Yeah lens flare lens flare Hey, man, I need to know if Ray's gonna be okay. Okay Yes, she will be okay I guarantee it They've turned off the the tower and they're gonna turn it on under a bigger ship. How do you know? feeling That's that's what that's what the fans aren't even saying like no, this makes sense because of the force That's when the films characters are saying it. They're like, this isn't a plot hole. It's the force. You're like, oh Okay, that's fine. I need this character to know this thing. How do we do it? The force They didn't they didn't have to do that. They could have had him like figure it out because he knows that shit, but never mind I stand by that being hilarious that the fist order could have just flipped that tower back on the switch for it Nobody was going after it. So it's just chase back and forth back and forth It's the fact that it even takes time to calibrate itself to know which way is up because it's a really complex calculations it has to perform Remember when they explode it banks They explode it and then they're like, oh my god. We have we they got to reset it. Like what do you what do you mean reset it? Exploded it. It's rubble Only there was something we could have done differently Oh What if only in our indoctrination for being troopers they taught us which way was up Yeah, I mean they skip that part usually they foolishly assumed we already have this information I think they yeah, that's the thing. They were like, you guys know which way is up, right? They're all looking around like, yeah Yes, we know which way is up Disappointing for the crews of those ships as well. Like they've been waiting their whole lives And they never get the chance they've only heard of this mysterious up they've ever Welcome to e-fab 86 that's where we're at 14 left until the big big 100 We've got regulars here today or at least people have been here before with uh, mr. Critical drinker and evan Monroe. How do you guys do? Hello, sir very well Excellent. I heard you guys like star wars I used to Because that's what we're doing today last time we did star wars the time before that we did star wars So we're going to change it up today and do some star wars. I figured that Uh, these these aren't we're going to mess with the formula. Yeah Um And how a how a new new guest I kind of already did half an intro there back there because I was just talking about It's hack fraud media. Do what do you do want to go by hack? Or do you have like one of them human names? um I I am not a human. I'm actually a corporation. Ooh We don't I don't know them as a guest before No, I'm a people too Oh, oh you like the guy from community the subway guys. They don't know what I'm referencing Nope, okay. The television show No, the specific character acts I can't take it that none of you have seen the things that I've seen chat. Help me out here. Everyone know what I'm talking about The guy who's also a corporation Yeah, jim. No subway Okay, someone said subway in chat. I choose to believe that guy knows He knows they could just they might have just been Really really hungry for a delicious cool Made-to-order subway sandwich Some people. Yeah, Jared. No, not Jared. The It doesn't matter either way welcome to your first EFAP person who isn't a fan of the sequels. That's that's a commonality with a lot of people we have on you see They're not hello big into the disney tisens. Um I suppose you're uh For people who are who are a fan of your work. You are uh, you are working on a rise of skywalker Selection of videos or slattable video in general, right? That's uh, it's coming. I am It is it is in the works. So be honest. Was it was it was it pretty good? Do you think it was pretty good? I've heard a lot of bad things about it. In fact, I've made a video about that, but it's uh, You know, there's some people out there who thought it was okay. I don't know if you're seeing where I'm sagwaying here There are some people out there who thought the rise of skywalker had things about it that were pretty good You guys know of these people would you describe them as wins? Um, yeah, you could you could sort of look at the individual positives as wins and that they could be a theoretical personal channel out there Who might collect these theoretical wins and display them for us In case we missed them seem seems reasonable What would you guys say is some of the wins of the rise of skywalker? The credits some of the wins I well, you know, you say that but I haven't actually Like looked No, not the the credits So, well, I was like, yeah, that's that's fair. So critical ringer. What was so good about the credits? Yeah, I don't know if I'm ready to give that to him. Yeah. Why would be so good? Well, if it's off of my head actually, um In terms of wins rose tico barely being in it. I would describe as a major win Hey, that's the win that's only a compared like a relative win though because wouldn't it be the any presence at all is annoying It's a relative win Yeah, they they did a good job at Explained because I had to keep continuity You know, you couldn't just not have rose tico, but he did a good job minimizing her involvement It's true because the disney trilogy is well known for its respect for continuity Do we do we approve of babu frick? Is that is that someone we're willing to give a win for? No We'll give it a pass You know in a theoretical good movie, it could be something where we're like, hey babu frick, you know I would uh, I would describe palpatine's red scarf that suddenly appears from nowhere as a win because it's very stylish And I kind of want one myself It was clearly the flash of his victims that he had pulled out of them with the force I'm so tired of people saying they don't understand how you can generate red clothing. It's like come on It's the force Get new clothes when you absorb a dyad everyone Yeah, I am for new clothes So Anything else? Well, it looked good. Like, you know, it looked very expensive. It's very very expensive looking really the cgi Yeah, I'd say all three you have that going for my guess, right? Yeah, they uh, yeah, they definitely were they had disney money in them I think it's Impossible to deny that Can you believe that they built a thousand individual star destroyers? For that shot only Danny would have been able to be the amount of miniature work. They had to do there. It's just insane Yeah Everybody see that cgi breakdown of the the million ships that arrive or whatever It's like they've all been individually modelled and they're like, look at all this way, blah, blah, blah Everyone's just like, but why But why we individually modelled these identical ships? No, no not the star destroyers. The ones were all the good guys show up Oh, sorry. Yeah, and it's like, yep, you you did it And you know, this is the thing if there was a cgi artist out there who had made five of them Whatever and took images to get them all detailed. I'd be like good job, man Sorry about you know With that scene, right? There's there's almost like this threshold of like density of ships on screen And if you pass it it just becomes not impressive anymore. It's actually like Visual diarrhea like there's just so much of it. You can't even like focus on what's going on Yeah, like No, this is awful. I don't want to look at this. I'm the most impressive CJ I can think of for modern day. It's just what I first saw Thaddo. So it's just like damn He looks good That chin He can he's going places, but yeah, like seeing loads of I don't know millions of ships. You're just like, all right There they are What else to say I wish it made sense that they were here or something you see lando has good connections He can he can really get to people. He can get them get them motivated Because you know picture yourself right you're on planet rags and you're just with your little rags armies and rags ships And you're just like la la la and lando says hey, hey come come help us defeat the first order and you're like, oh Why now? Well, they have an army of star destroyers that can destroy planets It's like, oh, but I live on one of those. I don't know if we should risk that. Yeah It's like, I don't know guys. I just feel like And then and then they're like but you left us before whether they were Dealing with a broken first first order army with one death star cannon miniaturized only capable of operating on like the planet grounds So surely you'll help now where you didn't help then and you're like, um I got to admit it's like trying to it's like trying to back out of a really shitty night out that you've been invited on You're just trying to think of excuses like Kind of busy We don't have any fuel fuel. We don't have any fuel. We're out clean out clean out We just ran out. Yeah, we went to the grocery store the other day forgot to fuel up If we go on your invasion, we're not gonna have Uh What I'd quite like actually is a tv series set in that desert festival planet with lando Just mooching around looking for the dagger and for 20 years and not finding it I just I want to see that scene where luke is with him and then they they give up and luke goes well I'm gonna go to an island now I'll stay here luke. I'll keep looking I'll keep an eye out for We'll see if it pops up somewhere. Maybe I should speak to the locals. They can help So it takes some multiple generation. It takes them years to find out. There are even locals I can remember they call it the forbidden desert. There's a fucking festival on it Forbidden desert like it sounds horrifying there's a bunch of goopy doopers just dancing. You're like, okay Yeah, do you think it's doing his plan was like, well, I know there's going to be a festival here in like 17 years So i'm just going to hang around wait for that and Then I can get some answers Only there was a better way whatever the plan. Um, by the way, I realize uh critical drinker was with us last time for covering Cinema wins and sends back to back real fun Um, we discovered that they are bad for different reasons It I suppose you could say but what we didn't get to do was Flip the proverbial coin We were dealing with joker a movie that's uh, a lot of people consider pretty good So what if we deal with one that's pretty bad what happens then does cinema sins come out on top as a fantastic source of insight about movies and does cinema wins come across as this You know, you can use the word simpering, but it makes it sound like i'm gunning for simp But even then that kind of applies he's simping for the riser's covering you could say that Oh, don't simper. Don't simp it Don't simp for the riser's covering And so, um, that's that's what we're here to find out today. This is an investigation formally. We're like, uh, We're we're detectives. Uh, that's that's our job and We have to get to the bottom of this on cinemas inside. They they put this out Two weeks ago and cinema wins did the same but a part two came out yesterday. So the way we're going to do it Is cinema wins part one cinema sins and then cinema sins part cinema wins part two because cinema wins are separated into Like the first video is the wins and the second video is like the review. It's very strange I'm very strange One of his videos is like a conclusion where he talks about all the stuff He's compiled and like makes just general statements essentially. So so Perhaps great general statements. We shall be able to discover which of the two channels We would keep if we were forced to get rid of one Oh I um, why as it stands, I guess I don't really care about either. I don't I don't think I can never get past like the cinema sins for joker I've never seen a video reach so hard in my entire life That's the thing. He shouldn't have to reach this time around. So it should be pretty interesting Wids will have to reach It's kind of funny how that works. No I mean, there's there's great stuff about riser skywalker. Um I can't think of any Oh, I mean the CGI as I said, but yeah, you know, that's that's fair just because we can't think of any just mean there isn't Some Between between ray and kylo. I mean blue me. Oh, that's mooch. Yeah That you know, that was beautiful. That was I've never seen a more natural case I've never seen my cock get so erect so quickly. I feel like It would be cool to poll audiences For that very moment like pausing it and being like, how do you feel about this? Let's see what the most common answer is. I feel like confusion would be Yeah, I think most people would go Because most people didn't like it and it's like you'd imagine that there would be people like the relo's who were just like Yay, it's amazing. We got our wish. But like you didn't see that. It's Canada Oh We got our wish We did it Um, I have dropped a watch together link into the chat. It seems that one person hasn't joined yet. I'm going to say it's rags What was what was wrong with the one that we were already in? Um, I made a new one. Oh, all right. I don't even remember what new good news good star wars taught me anything It's that new is good Um, so let's make sure it pulls up for everybody. Is everyone seeing fantastic four on the screen? Um Everything green about star wars episodics the rise of skywalker. Yeah, right. Let me keep this to Okay, that should be good. All right. Yeah, that's pretty much it shortest intro in efap history, I guess the The thing is we've got an hour and a half of video to get through so Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait Well, 29 there's only 29 minutes 29 and a half plus 23 and a half plus 27 so Fucking hell. Yeah, uh strap in lads. Of course. No one has to stay for the entire runtime, but uh We will be or at least I will be I might need to I might need to switch from booze to coffee at some point of this is gonna To get through this one. So we're starting with cinema wins part one He's going his format for those who don't know is to explain to us the positives Uh of a film and he's going to open with clarification because he knows this one is gonna be tough Is everyone ready? Here we go Why don't we go this video feels like a good time to briefly remind you my dear viewers what this channel is about Well, let's start it out a lot more tongue-in-cheek Guys already like I know what you're trying to do like we know He knows he can't just say it's this good things He's like, okay. I get it. It's really bad I'm gonna predict this channel is about Positivity and finding the goodness in all media something that we can all relate to We're in this together. We're like a team you and me. Well, that's a part of his banner, right? He says that because like finding the good is more fun than the bad things Like in things. Yeah, that's his banner well I beg to do Apparently agrees with the idea of objective criticism. That's in his Jurassic World falling kingdom video He says he thinks that screenplays and filming can be judged objectively, but he doesn't see the point So I'm like, why why do you need argumentation and to like support points? It's just it's confusing Oh before I forget, um evan hack fraud media Uh, just answer the question just choose one. There's no need to think about it You don't have to ask any follow-up questions. It's just because it's a fun little thing we're doing Which is better halloween or christmas? Christmas I'm gonna have to go with christmas too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but if you add a thanksgiving into that mix I would choose thanksgiving a world really? Why is that? Uh, because there's less stress less stress on thanksgiving than in christmas. What do you mean? Uh, christmas is like, oh fuck. I gotta find gifts. I gotta this this this this this this or it's thanksgiving It's like family dinner Yeah, when you don't have the pressure of generosity and you know the goodness of a fellow man and Well, and well feel more for christmas. That's that's what really matters. They just put me down for christmas. Yeah All right, but yeah, we did actually highlight the um the the comments he made in the in the Jurassic world one It was like a screenshot someone had sent in and then of course in his joker one Doesn't he argue that like all films fall apart if you were to nitpick them? That's that's that's uh, I'm assuming that's like almost a shot at cinemas in or something like that logic Which is funny funny because he thinks things wrong all the time Yeah, it's it's weird. I don't know Either way, let's um, he's reestablishing himself. Okay. This is this is him setting out what he's gonna do Came obvious to me that bad movies had fans who enjoyed them unironically And so slowly the bad thing, but I'm pretending it's a good shtick disappeared and I went looking for more sincere points Although you guys don't begrudge. Yeah, but what why sincere? Like what what makes the thing what how can you have a sincerity about these things? Um, I guess what we were able to say like the visuals you could be sincere about how You know well realized the visuals off I mean, I suppose like Looking at it kind of fairly. Um, even the worst movies bound to have some good moments in it somewhere Like there's going to be something that's not it's not horrendous like all the way through so Yeah, yeah Fuck up everything. Mark Hamill portrayed the disheveled cowardly fuck in tlj really well like Couldn't have done better really You know I would I would be like, yeah, man. You did a really great job portraying that character That's just a pity that I was kind of looking for a different like you could So, yeah, you know Find it weird too that he says like bad, but I'm pretending it's good Like is that what he did with some of his earlier videos? Is that what he's saying? Like I don't He said that that disappeared over time. I'm like, I don't know what that's all about. Uh, I guess his older ones Odd way he's like Maybe he's like parody levels in the older videos where he'd be like he'd point out something really bad But pretend like deliver it as though it's a good thing or something. I don't know By the way You against and fen perceived problems But unless I come right out and say it the wins aren't about judging whether a movie is good or bad That's just not what I'm interested in doing with this channel My mission statement has become every movie is at least one person's favorite and I want to try to figure out the reasons why Okay, oh boy, I actually think that's fair, but I don't think that's what he does Yeah, I I think he made that up just now He's saying that this is all just opinions. It's all fun. And it's like then he's gonna argue against perceived flaws That's the thing he literally says I argue against perceived flaws, but I'm not judging whether films good or bad It's like, why why would you even argue against the flaws then? Why wouldn't you just say? Why wouldn't you just try to find or enjoy perceived flaws? Yeah, at least have the have the cahones to say they're actually flaws not perceived flaws I mean some of them gotta be real right Some of them That's sincere. It's like, oh all this quotation mark stuff. It's just it's it's all fun planning Oh boy Then we come to the rise of Skywalker and my scale broke. It's bad Okay, okay, we did it I've been convinced movies can be shit Is uh, you know, there's few out there that could be definitive in terms of convincing someone to rise The Skywalker is definitely one of the candidates. We are like surely this one you you could notice how stupid this is, right? And people are like, yeah, yeah most of And I'm that person. Okay favorite is a big word, but my point is that I'm making this video for me. Oh, no He liked it. Oh, he likes it. He liked it. Oh, it's sorry It's fine You almost had us man. You almost had us I picture e-fap chat raising like a bit midi gun. We're like, it's okay. He could like it It's okay. It's okay. Calm down everyone Enjoyed this movie and if one more person feels like they can be honest about enjoying it after this as well that's it Be honest about enjoying it Like I just that's the crusade here It's like you gotta get you gotta get this video out because there's someone out there in a group of friends Who's like I wish I could admit. I like this film, but I can't I have to make this video so that matt jarbo knows he's not the only one Now that this video is out like I can say I like it. I'm free I know all kinds of groups of friends and cultures are different But like if I enjoy what I can tell is a shitty movie. I really have no problem telling people that I'll be like Yeah, I enjoyed it. It was goofy It was the the explosions and lasers were enough for me that sort of shit, but uh I guess not he needs to get this video out there to encourage those who enjoyed it to be honest about that Don't hide more person feels like they can be honest about enjoying it after this as well. That's it. That's what I'm here for Okay Thanks Well, they're just coming right out with it. He's back It seems like your enjoyment of this movie could very easily boil down to that one plot point because so much hinges on it Um Yeah, it's a pretty yeah It's a pretty bad start for a lot of people if they didn't already know that he's coming back from like the marketing And you're just like what pal what? Kind of a big deal Kind of a big deal and I never even thought of that imagine going into this film Not knowing the pal team was back and they just say that in the fucking title crawl Like oh, you're like what what what the fuck this come from like how but I but he exploded twice Twice I mean you think if they were gonna pull something like this like they would have kept it completely and totally secret And slowly built up to it like throughout the movie so that it lays the groundwork Establishes lots of reasons why he might potentially still be alive and then finally hit you with it and It might have sort of worked But to just launch straight into it. You could tell how desperate they were to generate some kind of interest with this movie They are ripping off that band aid just getting it over with the net speak. Yeah, it's done alive Remember pal team. Yeah, he's alive anyway moving on so they have to get these muffins. You're like Haha Millennium falcon I guess I'd say pretend for a watch through that it's what you wanted and see how you feel Pretend it's what you wanted and see how you feel So can you just can you just say that about any movie no matter how terrible like so let's talk about feeling Pretend they wanted to see Luke Skywalker reduce to a sad pathetical man living on an island Who gets his ass beat by ray no and then the rest of the movie just falls into place it The uh, so this we say this a lot we get hyperbolic this might be the worst argument that's ever been on eFab Is a fundamentally the worst thing I've ever seen it's Feel like you want it and maybe you'll like it like wow just this is basically fake it till you make it Like and along it but with your own feelings like you're trying to trick yourself into What makes us so bad is the fact that it's spoken very earnestly Um, just pretend that the thing around which the entire plot hinges on is actually something that you want And then watch the movie like that and see how you feel I'm trying to think of like if someone said maybe if you go for a shit and then rewatch the film Maybe you'll like it more. That's a better argument than this That's where we're at. That's like the lowest Argument ever and as as drinker said you could literally say this about every single thing ever pretend It's what you want and then see see how you feel of course You're gonna feel differently if you feel that you want it like what? Honestly, I'm gonna do this the next time I mug someone I'll just be like look pretend That this is what you wanted and don't press charges against me Yeah, see how you feel imagine. This is uh, what you wanted. How do you even do that all of a sudden? Like you turn it on you're like, I want Palpatine. I want Palpatine. I want Palpatine And then you see it come up in the title and you're like, no Yes It's a win I can imagine someone sitting down Gritting their teeth. I want this This is essentially the no, no, no, just just let it happen Put a finger on their mouth. So like yeah the the the logic here of just being like I am going to Defend perceived flaws and highlight what people liked about it first argument out of the gate pretend. It's good Like man If maybe this was in the end of the video like I would be like well at least you got everything out of the way You know in terms of actual arguments first, but it's like nope. This is where we'll be getting. All right This is the most desperate thing. I think anybody has ever said I'm every frame of pause Of course, this is where it would be though for riser skywalker, right? That's the film that you pull this out for This is this is the ultimate argument. I'm gonna do this. This is what you wanted See how you feel Wow, just assume it's a troll who's like no No, it's just a wits just Said it's what you wanted. This should really be in the trailers actually for the movie Like pretend this movie is what you wanted That should be in the that should be in the title crawl just Luke pretend This is what you wanted Luke is coveted, right? Like he says like no one's ever really gone that they have a bunch of actions sees that he's like pretend It's what you wanted Call me in the morning might as well get this out of the way. I know that it's not what a lot of you wanted I wouldn't even say it's what I wanted, but here we are also a bold move to go back to the fint that was So he he like put a win on and then took it off because it doesn't really count I don't even know what was the point of saying that I guess Not a defense. Why not just say it's it's kind of flawed and just say I'm gonna leave it Or take a win off. He takes wins off. You know, this is what I mean like why even say it If he's gonna be focusing on the wins why even mention that like yeah, people didn't want Palpatine coming back You think you would have said wow win for boldness Yeah, but the We feel like well The win for anything couldn't he like at least pretended that he wanted it like for our benefit It's like I I was really excited by this win Or at least he said well at least we'll get you know, who's the actor Ian McDermott, right? Yeah, yeah, at least we get to have this actor back or something like that. Even if it's a little meta Yeah, you don't make a win for that That's a win I guess I do see we're better at this than he is. Yep, we would argue that's a win couched in a loss But still a win To menace but like yeah palpy's been the phantom controlling it from one through nine. Yeah, but he was alive when that happened He stopped him through one time and he was not in the force awakens of the last shot even He was speaking through snoke in his from his tank that he was yeah, didn't you see all the clones What is this bold move to call back to the phantom men? It's like you do know the sequel trilogy is much worse The the idea this like bring it up bring up phantom men is like I mean Yeah, they they they were using the prequels in the boxing for this movie because they're like hey prequel people What you could come watch this, right? We're running out of people that are interested in a passionate way That's a thing A little known Elsa saber form where you just drag the lightsaber through their shoulder. Oh, that's a win All right I'm following this so so in frozen during the song the animation is weird where she manages to like Pop her hair through her arm because the way she's moving her hair So He's saying like lol kylo cut off the guy's arm By pushing his lights pop in his lightsaber through it. So it's like frozen. That's a win Oh In frozen was it not just like a CGI fail whereas this was like a very deliberate Yeah, as far as I could tell he's actually doing without doing well That's the thing that I don't the connection there is like what? Because he because he moved in the same way Yeah, you're like, all right. This is what we're in full where you're just like, oh, that's okay A little known Elsa saber form where you just drag the lightsaber through their shoulder results may vary A little dark side kylo ren in one action Yeah, the way he turned on his lightsaber Yeah, he needed it needed to be on while he walked across the ice towards the Towards nothing Nothing threatened that he needed it on that I got nothing for that one. Can anyone translate that one? He's like he's is that just he turned on his lightsaber because he's a part of the dark side Is that it? It's like kind of just stylish sith way. I mean, whoa We had to hit him with that noise You know the sound He pushed that button so hard. Mm. And then it Turned on and it was all red and glowy And he's like walking with it and the blades almost touching the ice So it's like making steam come up and it's like so cool, man So kylo was actually doing the audience a favor He was saying hey this next like two three minutes of this movie a lot of flashing lights It's going to be like this It's going to kind of be like that so You need to be excellent foreshadow. This is what we're yeah, that's what we're doing here Um Oh, someone said a gadel pretend. Well, it's what you wanted, of course. Oh, yeah Put that on When I start typing stuff, you guys are gonna talk because I I can't be typing so, uh This do you think that xigall is really hot or really cold? Cold Yeah, I mean, so yeah Yeah, cold. All right. Did you did you guys read like the star wars facts? They were talking about this plan. It's actually got population Like oh really? Well, yeah, all those people live in the pyramid Xigall natives were the ones that were used as crew for like the star destroyers Oh We're gonna bring jobs to x This is news to me Make xigall great again I love the idea these like cave dwelling hoodie creatures They just pile up onto a star destroyer to like go like what what what what what what do we make? They're like randomly stabbing at buttons and shit Yeah, one of the captains is like these these creatures don't even know which way it's up and then they're all like, ah, I get it Um Yeah, I just want to funny that if this was a friend of yours trying to be like, okay There are positives to riser skywalker first kylo uses his lightsaber kylo turns on his lightsaber and uh pretend you like it So far so good. So yeah, we're looking good so far get me. Yeah I'm gonna say this a few times, but the sound design in this one is always on point The sound design in this one is always on point I think I mean it's there are sounds in it. So they do they do sound like they are soundy Um, yeah, I think the length of sound is pretty good. Totally weird. Well, they Yeah, the the strikes sound like a shop. I don't know violin sounds sometimes Yeah, official Skywalker sound does their job Yeah, that's that's the thing. It's like, yeah, the the sound design is probably gonna be pretty good. I I agree. You know what? Fine, you got it Even something we know the sound of like electricity and lightning are made creepy and foreboding They don't sound like lightning. Okay Is he saying because it sets it's foreboding for the the ultimate Firework lights the lightning tree that the palpy attacks the flea with is that what he's suggesting there? I don't know I have this image of his cult followers pumping out a snow clone. No, no, no, he's not ready. His face is all messed up We need more time. Didn't you read the novelization? They explained this he wanted him all fucked up So no one could tell what race he was And ironically And just like breezes past the fact that like he he made a bunch of snokes Just like yeah, and he keeps them right there. I like all of the famous copies The guys are still working on these clones. Like what are they doing? Are they gonna send more of them out into the galaxy? I guess I'm my theory still that they eat them. This is the source of food Yeah, like when you're right, you're not how to make snook. Why didn't you just make an army of snokes? Like they're they're so powerful. It's like you'd imagine that would come in handy They can call everyone in the galaxy a boy Does the rule of two get affected when you have clones? Like are they do they count as people or no is is palpatine like it's me and veda It's me and kylo. It's and then snook is like what about me. He's like, no, no So I I feel like this would only make sense if the rule of two is actually a rule And not more of a extremely loose um Like an extremely loose sort of probably mentioned in phantom minutes, right? I just i'm curious if snoke Has any effect on it or not? You know, it's not really like it's not a rule Really? Like they say it is but it's not really. No, it's not but Hey man, I don't know Does grievous even count when you have count dooku and grievous and palpatine does that even count because grievous can't use the force so Yeah, how about that? I don't even know what to say. That's the thing. You know that's where we're at right now. Um But I'm curious if he's like we can't make any more clones right now because we've got one Which counts for the rule of two and so until he's dead you can't make any more The ones in the tank not count Nope, not until they come out. No, those do not count those. I've got an entire warehouse Full boxes full of them. They're on consignment You gotta give these things away basically Now dimes got make me want to stop to say pathway to men. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's it for talking about snow clones All right. Well snow claw we can turn snokes fucked up face into a win even though it makes no sense really It's a win because he envisioned a joke in his head of them messing it up Ha ha Win thing Any abilities some consider to be unnatural And let's just say hearing Ian McDermott say that line again the line we all agree comes from arguably the best scene in the prequels I would not argue that that's the best scene in the prequels. Yeah, I wouldn't argue that them just copying it as a win No, yeah, I got a couple thoughts there. So first like favorite scene in the prequels probably order 66 That's that'll be my pick. See it. I like when he killed the younglings. Oh that one. Definitely. Um, I like the scene where uh, um, Oh man, Anakin is in the Jedi council room. It's like empty. It's all just told visually like Padme He's like seeing her across like that's a pretty good scene The thing with this scene that always kind of bothered me to this day is just the he's so over In how he's the summon up with him and Anakin's like He's like telling us it's legend you'd imagine you'd go like You know sith legends. It's like, where'd you hear that? It was in the library Anyone can read it. It's on the internet. It's the space internet even I bet if you went to a random Inexplicable fifties era diner here on Coruscant and you can ask the proprietor for information and he would have it Everyone knows who he would know about something that only the sith do according to Mary in this movie. Yeah, she even knows about Kamino Saber darts Yeah, text has been around He knows this shit. He was like he always wanted to retire in a little diner. That was his dream The whole story that's the jets. Do I want to see it? Give me Yeah, yep Oh, yeah, that is just a win then Yeah, it's just to win the way they copy that thing I guess it's even the German like he he highlights his name. So it's kind of like, you know He gave a good performance, I guess and you know the lines. Okay. I thought it was just a line. He's referencing Fair enough. I mean The funny thing is I can't even give them points But like staying consistent with a line that was used because they're using that line to try and excuse the fact that he's alive That's like the whole reason they're referencing it Actually, it's just like Without any more context or explanation or anything. It's just like a fake. Yeah Like it's like the dark side of the force Deal with it. I love me some vagueness. This is like, well, I mean, you know, it's it makes sense The force can do a lot of stuff when you're like, all right Cool When he when he goes like I've been dead before Okay, like in what way like literally dead. Did your body die? Did your soul die? It's like a biblical sort of like a like not really but sort of like a metaphorical death But this one was an actual death And everyone's just fighting over whether or not he's a clone or he's his old self or he was a clone in the originals Or it's like a ghost that reformed or he was possessed into the palpy body It's just like that's good when we're at the point we can't figure out what the hell's happening I think we established like the ordeal he would have had to go through if it's his actual physical body like being on like blasted down into the core of an exploding death star and then ejected from the explosion into like the orbit of another planet to crash land in the ocean and then you'd have to like swim ashore But um, what else they I forget. What is the canon? They make it clear in the in the novelization, right? Like the definitive answer was it that he's just his force spooky spirit went into another palpitating body or something I don't even know what the actual reason is I think I've just sort of decided that No matter what they come up with it's dumb and I won't be any better for knowing It's like great Thank you like I could know or I could Not know I think you'll hear me complain about the imperial march with a bunch of star destroyers rising out of the Yes, I won't think to hear you complain about anything. You're like whole goal is to not complain Yeah, I feel like you sort of you're just gonna accept it And smile and clap your fucking hands because star wars. Yeah, and I'm not more member berries I'm not particularly just gonna look at this on the like the most simple visual level like well It looks cool because they came out the ice and now there's loads of them and that looks awesome Like But by that rationale like transformers looked like amazing and you think it was a great movie Yeah, but the sound design when it was so many talked about stuff to each other Like in the first movie there was the one and then in In the force awakens it was like a really big one And now there's loads of them Isn't isn't that cool? They put the sound in the background the sound from the when Darth Vader walks around that one And it's star destroyers and they broke out of ice They broke out of ice. How cool is that ice? You remember ice? And these are these are like the original classic looking ones as well. Not the big fat ones that we have now That's that makes it even better. That is so cool. Remember storm destroyer stars storm destroyers Ice I'm kidding Poe and Finn's relationship simply the way these two actors interact. What do you what do you mean poe and fin's relationship? They have one. What do you mean? I mean like I think they know each other They know each other exists. You know that I'm exaggerating They've been on screen together for possibly less than five minutes in the three films. I feel like that's probably true Yeah, but you have you have relationships with people that you've met for less than five minutes, right? Really like chemistry high ones that everybody enjoys Simply the way these two actors interact and talk over each other. It's all endearing. They're like, oh Oh, I mean I guess this is like an acting win of which case I'd be like, yeah, John Boeiger and Oscar Isaac are two very good actors So, yeah, they're good actors. Yep. Yeah Cool. All right. Yeah, sure All right, react and talk over each other. It's volunteering How do we thank you? Win the war got a joker for this role, huh? I don't even get it. That's mark. I don't understand. Mark Hamill's voice voice of that alien. So Yeah, oh So again, that's a he's a good voice actor win and of which case I'm being like so all of the legitimate wins are really going to be acting special effects sound design and uh Is that it Basically all the stuff that doesn't matter as much Yeah, that's the stuff that's not the story. He like, okay, right not not to say you can't tell a story with visuals, but uh Well, the shoving loads of ships on screen is you know, it's like, mm-hmm That's visual storytelling. Yeah, that's telling you the story of a lot of ships at once visually What Good thinking Chewie taking your friends advice Taking your friends advice. Oh agrees with something Chewie says win I don't even So he put on subtitles to be like Chewie saying there's bad guys and we should kill them That That was a bold move Wanted to kill those guys who are trying to kill you I don't have to react to this All right. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna play it again though. Just make sure we you'll absolve that How do we thank you win the war got the Joker for this role, huh? What Good thinking Chewie taking your friends advice It's like a little rick and morty dimension hopping showing off a galaxy visually. We're on a visual win Because there's different visuals. That's that's it And again, we're just gonna ignore the speed skipping thing and just say every all the planets look cool It's just like come on man. Well, this is the thing If he was like watching the film with us and then we pause it in the cinema or some shit Or you know watching it whatever and I'm just like, okay What does this mean for the universe light speed skipping like what what we have a lot to talk about? He's just like but the pretty colors I'm like, oh well call the vistas the vistas Because yeah, because he's like we get to we get to see a lot of the galaxy It's like yeah, but none of it's in any sort of context Do you get to see it for like three seconds and then off you go you don't know anything about this place referencing rick and morty too Basically everything is just thrown against the wall in terms of traveling around. It's like crazy nonsense while Star Wars is You know tries to make these these specific rules about how you you can't just arbitrarily travel because you'll fucking kill yourself It's not like rick's portal gun. That's not how it works in star wars, right? It's just like yeah, but vistas No, it's like another thing It's like another thing Starting to think it isn't possible to hear the voices of the jedi who came before Nothing's impossible funny. You should say that There's definitely a moral ethical gray area here But listening to kerry's daughter billy talk about how she thinks kerry would have loved to be the focus of this movie Even posthumously puts my mind at ease Wow, so someone completely different from the dead person thinks that it's okay cool well even I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how to react to that either. I'm just like, um Like so you're saying the person who's okay with it was a completely different person. Okay. Well, it's a I don't know Why you brought it up. It's a creepy and weird precedent that Actors not staying dead in movies now like coming back They said that you use like the old footage so it's not technically replacing them cgi and it's like it pretty much is man Especially when you repurpose it when you move it into different things to mean different things And but you're it's the fact that you're having to construct entire scenes To to awkwardly work around And I think a little bit of dialogue you've got from the character A lot of people agreed that like the two options they could have gone with were it opens on a funeral And the the star wars movie gives huge respect to the actor themselves, which is I think would have been pretty cool Um, or she's you know, she's busy fighting the good fight in some other part of the galaxy And you have to try and argue why that would make sense that she wouldn't be with our protagonist, but she isn't someone like that But instead she's sort of sort of in it and you're like, oh And she she just comes across as strange in the whole movie. But you know I don't know how he's gonna argue. This is a win like the best I could give it is neutral probably And I have to give them credit for seamlessly weaving extra footage from the force week I wouldn't call it It's kind of distracting because you know, she's dead and you notice the scene she's in and how she behaves Yeah, like everyone else has to kind of explain what her motivations are because they've got nothing to work with Kind of speak for her they'll say something and then she'll like say like an affirming. Yeah Well, isn't like The bit where she dies does mas canata not say like, oh, she knows what she has to do She has to kill herself We could have gotten that from her, but okay Yeah It gets into this movie It's one of those times where outside knowledge can break suspension of disbelief, but they did just about everything they could to combat it They didn't at all. He's making it sound like they only had this option or something Yeah, they couldn't have done anything else. They had to have all of these scenes with her upfront With dialogue conversing with characters. What else could they have done not this? Remember when it was suggested that like they killed her off in last jedi Because it wouldn't really have required too much like post-production work to rewrite it a little bit So that she was dead and they're like, no, we have to keep her like where did you think this was gonna lead? They needed her to die in this one to save kylo No, wait save rey from kylo who didn't want to kill her So that she can cheap shot him and then save his life. It's all very complicated Have you it makes sense if you don't think about it. Do you know so much about clear? Did you see uh, er's theory where he was like he thought when he first saw the movie that uh Leia tried to like Jump into her son sort of through the force to prevent him from striking rey A wed rey attacked kylo. She killed leia I mean that's as far as crazy theories go that's not too bad. I guess It makes it makes no less sense than everything else rey killed chewy and leia Carrie and leia a decent final chapter I'm bringing this up just to say that i'm probably gonna leave a lot of these inconsistencies alone. No shit Yo, wow. Yeah Color me surprised Yes, before the novelization and visual dictionary came out I assumed rey and leia fixed luke slash bannokin's lightsaber with some force magic, you know The way they do literally literally everything in star wars. What since when was Name three things they do like that. They fixed everything with force magic. I'm curious what exactly he's citing Oh, literally everything else Literally everything else. They're characters who literally don't even believe in the force and yet. I'm sure they fix everything with force magic That's the force magic It doesn't want to be known to exist so it force magics amnesia across the galaxy. It's very simple You know when luke gets his hand chopped off and then he's got a robot hand like that was force magic It's like when you have open heart surgery for 12 hours and then you survive You say thank god and the doctor's like dude, what the fuck? It's force magic. Am I a joke to you? That's just force magic um Also, so what what I saw I knew that they'd be fixing that fucking lightsaber whether we saw it the trailer's just like Yeah, uh, the reasoning they don't provide reasoning I don't think in the film and then if you look into the visual dictionary you find out that that mary And someone else decoded the books and helped to repair it that way apparently I think I don't know if that's more or less satisfying. I don't really It's just to me. It's like, okay fine. Whatever. Fuck it. I'll Would have been nice to see that I mean A throwaway line, but no fuck it. The lightsaber is back together. Whatever our wars ryan specifically left it open ended We have everything we need But just writing down after the fact that they healed the kyber crystal with force magic doesn't mean a better in-movie explanation shouldn't have been given Healed it with force magic. I mean Oh, yeah I had a feeling oh Or any in-movie explanation more that maybe something should matter and shouldn't be undone So Jumping over a chasm is a loracruft reference. I mean, I'm not even getting to that I'm so he he like took us in a way or win away because They repaired it but didn't explain why Doesn't that seem odd for him To do I don't even get what his point is in all of this It's just like remarking on the fact and then he's like, well, it could have been explained But then it wasn't so I don't mind whatever move on I'm like giving an error to the film for that when all those other things have happened It's like that's the one that gets you The way they do literally everything back to life didn't get a burn That's what I mean like Star Wars ryan specifically left it open-ended. We have everything we need See so he argues they're like, hey, it's possible that it could have gotten repaired, which I'm like, well, yeah But just writing down after the fact that they healed the kyber crystal with force magic doesn't mean a better in-movie explanation Shouldn't have been given or any in-movie explanation more that maybe something should matter and shouldn't be undone So Oh, so you was going to give it a win, but he decided not to that's what that means okay, well That happened. All right, then Here we are a little bit older. Definitely not wiser people are saying gadelp. I don't know what you want me to gadelp Sometimes it's too crazy even for the gadelp man. It's like, what am I supposed to make of this like, uh, you This thing could have been good It wasn't belching That was a strong one. Yeah, it was another Lara Croft reference So if you're jumping over things there's a Lara Croft reference. Well, it's a woman. So Women jumping over things if you have a woman jump over something. It's a Lara Croft reference. Thank you Yes, you just over things setting up our dyad here Kylo is taking one last look to make sure it really wasn't vader speaking to him By the way, the emperor does a really good anti-circuit and how does he tell the difference? How could he possibly know? Yeah, that's the thing Light on the mask or something. Oh shit. It is speaking to me. Oh my god I left it off So what if in his room right his Darth Vader mask was like an alexa like a space alexa He's like vader. What's the weather today? And it says the weather today will be 62 degrees 30 chance of thunder storms Comes back home from meeting an ex ago and he's like so you're you're palpatine, right? Prove it No, no. Well, yeah, he's like i'm totally vader. It's like me He's he's spoken to Luke. He's like, I know what vader's favorite song is tell me. He's like, um Is raining men break my stride by Matthew wilder He's like, oh, well, you know, there's a lot of I have a lot of favorite songs. He's like, nope. You already had one He's like, well, no, I just didn't tell you how good I knew that I was just checking to make sure you knew That you passed my test now I can talk to you for real What if the vader mass asked him if he's palpatine talking? This is all very confusing. Are you ray right now? Uh Yeah, I don't know. It's just funny that that's that's how he's logic to that scene He's like he's checking to see if it's the emperor if it's vader. It's like what? Uh And he's like setting up the dyad like what do you mean? The fact that they're just connected by the force and that can mean all kinds of things including teleporting lightsabers to each other Because why not? So you can edit two different scenes together that that means it's foreshadowing it also is incredible Uh filmmaking by the way to just have a short reverse shot in different locations It's a dyad Yeah, it was cool to have them do those lines, I guess All right another acting when I guess I don't know And it throws ray completely off her game and turns her into a lumberjack, which I approve of It's a win that she cut a tree But she met she missed the robot and she destroyed nature, which is cool All right, don't think about it. It's cool when she does it Mystic reaction Oh, man, that sounds like a excuse me miss ray. May I please have this tree removed? Doesn't use the force. This is a grown-ass man. I was gonna say I don't have anything to say about that I'm pausing so that we can all experience it But I have nothing to say I mean, it looks like I would have thought that bb8 would have moved Yeah, you'd think bb8 would uh Would would would spot the tree falling but no Oh Actually, it's even sadder It's like when you accidentally step on your dog's tail and they're all submissive Like they think they're being punished and you just can't apologize enough Also, I like the confirmation that since in the last Jedi snokes says he connected them It means palpatine actually connected them and it clearly can't be undone. Why can't it be undone? I'm sorry. What what is What's the win there? He's saying that the shitty retcon that makes no sense Actually makes sense now that what I wanted is happening So It's palpatine all along and that was part of his master plan because palpatine's phantom minis remember prequels Okay, I'm brainstorming here because I'm not sure what points trying to make is it that um You'd think that their connection would be severed with the death of snoke and he's saying that It was palpatine that did it so technically speaking the connection should still be there But then he also says it can't be undone No says he connected them it means That's not in the films I don't this is what I mean like he just pretends as though this is just information We all have and I'm like wait what I don't remember This would be okay palpatine actually connected them and it clearly can't be undone somehow palpatine returned I love that He's just the audience somehow I I don't fucking know. He's back. You know, I don't want what do you want me to do about it? Oscar Isaacson one of his interviews the uh return the Jedi is his favorite film But I I'd love to just be able to speak to be like how psyched are you the palpatine's coming back I could see it be like well I try not to think about it I probably just just get through each day one at a time collect my star wars paycheck and royalties and just Move on to my next project and forget it never happened like it was a bad dream And and so he delivers it. This is the thing I don't like to draw it back too much because it puts me in a sink with you a lot But I just love the delivery and the last you seem so fucking done with this movie That I snook says he connected them it means palpatine actually connected them and it clearly can't be undone Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute If if palpatine is the one who did the the whole like force connecting thing, wouldn't he have known that they were a dyad Or at least made that does that imply that like the force connection thing is what made them a dyad? Sorry, are you arguing that this isn't a win? That's actually a good point like how would he how would he be unaware that they're a dyad When he's the one who connects their minds and stuff. Oh, look at all these force experts We've got in the call right now who know how the mystic magical force works all of a sudden Because like he doesn't know until the very end right when they show up and he's like a dyad I Cross the galaxy and know you were a dyad Get still palpatine's behind it all Fucking palps, man. Okay This is first palpatine's first time doing this. It's very very complicated and convoluted and contrived He's never done this for he doesn't have any practice with it it makes sense that You know This all makes sense and all checks out. This is still a win definitely Oh Uh, it's not impossible that some cult members stop Stop it. It's not impossible. Stop it Not impossible Logic you could say all members did anything. It's just And I love how he just goes straight into it. It's like, but he's back and it doesn't matter He's always just been the symbol of evil. Okay. Nothing matters logic doesn't matter consistency doesn't matter Always been just the symbol of evil. What the fuck do you mean? Like he's an actual character as well He's not just an allegory for bad. Like Let's use this a lot in these videos like overly simplifies things or downplays like Bigger issues and just it's like something small what you'll find is logic will be used as long as logic is his friend So if logic is like, yeah, I can help explain this. He's like, hey come in man. Have a drink Yeah, great stuff. The second logic goes Palpatine shouldn't be back. Is that get out? I do not know you Also, this means that the symbol of evil fucked some bitch He gave her a baby. I mean I don't know. He was your daddy symbol of evil I really Poor palpatine way Back it doesn't matter. He's always been just the symbol of evil his backstory never mattered in the ot The fact that you're talking about it means it doesn't matter, right? Like you didn't you already addressed this because it doesn't matter It was all about that's You and your thoughts the thoughts are the enemy And the PT only fleshed out his rise to power as it pertained to Anakin's fall more on all that later Although maz when talking about raised lineage did say this in the force awakens. They're never coming back There's someone who still could Oh Ew Well planned from force awakens said you're there So she knew the whole your his to make this a win It would have to mean that maz canada knew that palpatine was going to come back and she told Fucking nobody about it Ew How does she know don't do this I love the idea someone cites this to jj and he would just have like the fucking mischievous kappa face being like Yeah, it was on purpose. Yeah. Yeah, that was Oh, I it was so subtle. I'm so glad somebody noticed You can tell he felt dirty doing that one. He was like, yeah He probably he wrote it out. He deleted it. He wrote it out again He deleted it and he was like, oh, fuck it. He writes it out again and reads it out Doc signs cloning. He gave them a win for that Oh By the way, I want to say how really weird it looks to see that alien and like normal person clothes What do you mean? Not like this But does he know about second breakfast find xacle I'll get it. Oh, he didn't bring up the Kamino and then cloning and how okay. All right. He's merry though So that's a win. He's merry. All right Sorry, you guys just paused on layer Oh, we didn't mean to No, no, I just wanted to say like I just wanted to make sure I was at the same point as you and I just seen it paused like this I'm at 520. Like this was one of those really fake Yeah, like you this is actually a really good, uh Paul's screen to sort of highlight the problem with lair in this movie Even in the cinema every time she's on screen my eyes are like, I don't believe she's there Well, that too, but just the the way she's outlined how his face is like Move changes shape almost whenever she's moving around It looks really obvious because being composited onto someone else almost This is the thing this probably some artist thought that it was like I tried my best. I'm like, yeah, I know you probably did I know I'm sorry Try your best to make this dead person walk the earth again. However, you should have used first off You should use dark side. Mm-hmm second off, you know, you're doing You tried no, I don't want to do that more on all that later Although maz when talking about raised lineage did say this in the force awakens. They're never coming back There's someone who still could I was very wrong though I don't even with a normal person close What? Oh, wait, I'm sorry. We're jumping around on my screen a little bit. Okay 5 30. I'm at 5 31. Okay. I'm gonna roll us back to 5 15 I can breakfast find exigl Find the emperor No, I don't want to go without your blessing But I will if there was one theme in these movies that seems to carry through every trilogy It's masters telling their padawans that they're not ready and then the padawans going somewhere or doing something Anyway, got to know it now Continuously Okay, that's not continuity. That's just a recurring idea. Yeah, it's like heath essentially Um, okay. Also, I like when it's having gravity consistently in every film. It's continuity. We have like a whole set of films where Anakin is like consistently belligerent with obi-wan And until he tends to the dark side then you have luke who follows basically every single thing yoda says up until He's has to make a choice between training more to defeat vader or potentially saving their lives So he's gonna defy the orders to stay and then you have ray being like, I mean Kind of like may as well go search for this thing Otherwise it's the end of the world and you treat all of these as the student going against the master And I'm just like there's different contexts entirely for all of these and since when we've seen these two together for like two minutes this film Compare that to the other two. It's just like come on Also remember when luke went against yoda's instructions and went away and got his ass beat by vader Like he paid a real heavy price for going against his master's training and ray does the same thing and just wins Ray can't lose though. Why would Yeah, the same you could say the same radical like I don't know the the beddy ways that he uh deviated from His training his jedi ways I don't know man. Like this this is one of them big stretches Besides cinema wins if you want to talk about Being you know having strong continuity as a plus. How does this film win exactly? Think about it I need to go alone. Yeah alone with friends. Definition win. Never be afraid. Okay Um, all right We're all just confused No Yeah, I agree with all of the things Either they're gonna go together like oh All right, I'm gonna go alone. Yeah alone with friends Win take that w the rise of skywalker. You earned it guys. We're up to 23 wins And we don't know how Good advice, especially coming from vader's daughter slash kylo ren's mom also hugging. I'm seeing that exhausting hugging as a win We don't have to leave those two like I what could you even say just like right then? All right Fine I'm just looking as well. See how bored an uninterested ray looks when she's hugging her When she's going in for the hug I feel like all of them were phoning this one in a little bit. They were like, oh, this is the end now Come on. Let's get it done Just tough pattern and yet in the feeling I need to go back and yep, that is leah's blockade runner back with her again Oh, is it that's the tanto for I doubt that's the tanto for I'm pretty sure the I'm pretty sure the empire was fucking Terrible memories of that Like no, I don't ever want to see this But this is where they captured me and that I had to go watch my planet before he's doing the beam the fucking red light medium beam We're like, I recognize that Okay I personally love that kylo gets his helmet back But there is a definite undertone from the Knights of wren if you want back in mascot. Why would they make the rules? They're the Knights of wren What do you mean if you want back in they do everything he says and he takes the mask off several times what Goddamnit I think he's extrapolating quite a bit from this. Yeah quite a bit So not only are the Knights of wren evil. They're also space polluters What yep, they're evil they pollute space Fucking How how dare they make sense And I love that kylo doesn't try to hide that his helmet was broken He embraces it with bright red welds, which is based on kintsugi the japanese art of fixing cracks and pottery with gold Okay, all right All right Flacker my take on it is that just because something is fixed doesn't mean it was never broken. So I pretend Knights of wren Gulls as in seagulls Okay The Knights of wren ghouls. By the way, they could totally hear him and what if one of them like turned around was like, dude Really? I mean, I'm still not sure of what the hell they said because I thought it was cool Right, but some people are saying it was ghouls in which case. I'm like, what the fuck do you mean ghouls like what? Well, first time I heard it. I thought they said cool. It's like wait I thought it was cool as well. Like I this is some I actually looked in subtitles and they said ghouls I looked at a while back I have no idea. I just said like like ghosts. That's What what's that have to do with what they are like are they meant to be like Undead or something I wouldn't put it past Disney Star Wars. It's like, yeah, they're zombies Oh my god Yeah, he's referencing the uh, the bad lip reading song. So it's like, oh, okay. All right Brutal I sense oh, it's a win that there's a severed head. Gotcha. Yep. It's brutal. Therefore I've got my appearance general hux about the mask No, sir Well done. Oh hux you beautiful sycophant. They sound like a cunt Oh, okay. Yeah, all right I mean hux did a little funny there. Well, they'll like have a mask. Great. Good job He's trying to avoid being strangled and thrown around. Yep. Yeah I I would especially knowing the fucking hair trigger that apparently uh, kylo has. Well, yeah, we're about to see that. Yeah Somebody get this guy a copy of new hope. No, they're gonna save you this time. No, no No, no, this is not comparable to that in any way. No No, definitely not the same in any way shape or form or fashion Totally different. This isn't just this film. This isn't just the sequel trilogy. This isn't just this This is a lot of movies that for some reason doth doth vader Punishing his subordinates like ruined bad guys to some degree because they they have him do it for very specific reasons Several times and now everyone is just like bad guy hurts his own bad guys. That's how it works, right? Yeah, it's what they do and bad guys kill the wrong men. Yeah, they do it in so much stuff And this one was especially stupid. He asked a very reasonable question What do they what do they want for this free fucking army? They're giving us The simple question of why are they motivated to do this for us? No die. Oh, okay I hope you like ceiling No talking to save you this time talking about be confused. He just be like why are you later? What the fuck? Couple wife-win cuties and like a lot of things in this movie. They were practical little dudes Um practical little dude practical practical little things. So yeah, that's a win. All right. We'll give him that one too Yeah, all right Someone worked hard to make those. Yep. Yes, they did I'm that's lucky lucky indeed Oh, I'll miss you 3PO. Yeah, 3PO was funny 3PO unironically 3 C 3PO is the best thing about this movie. I still think so. Yeah, I'll fix That you know That's you you may feel that you're in trouble at that point if you say that you're like, oh shit, uh Yeah, whatever I've never seen anything like this. I felt the same way at least for this trilogy It's the first time this galaxy feels lived in again There are things going on that don't have to do because there's a bunch of things dancing. I don't know Yeah, this uh, this is world building There's a party going on in this planet Like I said, I was lost to the idea was a forbidden desert with a bunch of people happily dancing in it I don't understand. This seems really weird Come on, you've been you've been in a desert before, you know, this is what they do Also the meme of like this taking place once every was it 42 years to line up with um a new hopes release Like oh, that's that's neat. But now you've just created an insane fucking coincidence. Why? With our heroes even mas canada's place in the force awakens felt like it was set up just for them that day And ray would love to see a huge colorful But this was set up just for them this day this this festival literally takes place today every 42 every 42 years I think it was 42. Well, he'll say it now. I assume Yeah, something like that A full party coming from her own desolate planet with no friends or family to party with and again All the natives are practical people in suits. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Good job. Someone gave a shit Someone who wasn't the rider gave a lot of the shit It's doing the dances the kids are puppets controlled by three puppeteers each 42 there 42 yeah So you mean the last time it was happening was right around the time luke saw his sister's r2 recording for obi-wan generosity what I mean Jenna Ross, it's here. All right So a random character gives ray a necklace and that's a win A lot of wins like that was like copy Nice to people and it's like wow, just a bit of her a sunny day Yeah Well, if you remember this character hands this character a cup of coffee win As rags pointed out gravity pretty consistent across all the movies. That's a win. It's still Yeah, see continuity and then they broke star wars. No, I see that there Yeah, guys, it's the dyad. It totally makes sense that this is the thing Yeah, guys, didn't you watch the movie guys? It's not breaking stowels because only ray and kylo could do it. Okay. Okay Yeah They have these like little inferences in there that are just like, oh, you think this is a problem. Well, guess what dyad That's like no, dude. It's there's They got special dyad powers. Oh, yeah, well, I have double extra special dyad powers. I can do it bigger and better I would just love to see this like from a different angle how it's like Obviously when we see it, it's just shot reverse shot So it just looks like he is grabbing this necklace off her chest But then like if some observer just happened to see him do that like what would they even witness Like this guy randomly reaching out and suddenly a necklace just appears in his hand like If his arm come out like and his arm appeared and they just like fell into like a portal and then came back or Yeah, like Yeah, what's the mechanics of this? How does it even begin to function? Can she pants him across the galaxy? Like I said in my video, couldn't she pull him through and they'll just be him up Or just pull his head through and then close the portal and this is fucking decapitism Think about it, right? You can pull a necklace meeting accessories Could you pull his helmet that his head would have to come through with it, right? Old dog. I don't know. How does that work? It's dumb I feel like this is an invention that just happened all of a sudden for this movie specifically because they didn't know How to write a reason for something Is it getting a sneaking suspicion? Yeah, it's like You know the first order all we need them away for them to figure out where ray is so they can have another battle scene How are they gonna know? Fuck it. He just takes the necklace and then they identify it In fairness guys you can't complain it's diet powers Yeah You've never seen a dyad before so it doesn't it's not contradictory to any previous diet That's where we're at with star wars powers. Now if I introduce one that's like allows you to see through Like into different dimensions with the force or something. It's like you couldn't ever do that before and I go no It's he's the he's the he's the force glump. It's like this whole new thing. It's it's you wouldn't it's not It's not the force really. It's more like the force vision too. Okay. It makes sense The glump side is a pathway to video I got a bad feeling about this No feelings were harmed in the filming of this scene feelings were had in this scene other than confusion What do you mean? It's lando didn't isn't he supposed to be like he's but surely he's gonna give a win for lando Just because he's lando because that's how that works lando means you got a win I'm waiting for it You should give it to yourself. Ray. It's not like billy d needs help hitting on anyone. She's dead Damn. Oh, yeah, that's just That's weird weird joke, but all right You have launched jetpack trooper mode built right into the same room. Yeah, it's pretty fucking stupid, isn't it? Really really stupid therefore we're What if you kick someone off of that like you hit the button for it and they weren't wearing a jetpack? It's baffling that these seem to be built for the the first order specifically or at least these stores specifically But they're not hover like why would they not be hover? Some people were in my comment section saying it makes more sense for it to be treaded than hover in this environment I refuse to agree with that Like if you're traveling well, we've just seen that there's like in this very Encounter there's quick send where you can just be sucked right down to your doom. Like that's not going to be a problem if you can hover You're like Like what would it be a benefit to tread versus hovering like it would work in any environment In case you wanted to hope you You can tread in single file to hide your numbers just like the sand people But if you are hovering you can't if you go in single file, you won't Yes, you won't leave tracks so they won't know they won't know you're there Yeah, they won't know that You're there, but they don't know how many of you there are I can see that as a definite win. Mm-hmm. You can also hover over oceans and lakes and stuff You could snowmobile across water Yeah, just go really really fast really It takes a lot of skill. Yeah, and you can't slow down use the force freeze. That's there you go That's another one and then I'm like wait, they never had force freeze before and I'm like it glomp force glomp is Be too it makes sense We've always been sort of able to tell what are two and Chewie you're saying based on responses But I feel like you can often almost hear BB. It's actual what would those words be? I don't know if I was to hear them. What would they say? The subtitles he had on screen, right? He said can I help wonderful If you're wondering how BB8 knew the canisters would be helpful, he noticed them earlier Hey, that's like the first thing in this video that I feel like is worth pointing out is like a cool thing Yeah My god Who knew that JJ could do such a thing It's it's sort of a thing that we can highlight. It's like oh my god. They sort of thought about it. Maybe. Yay Uh, that's what they say never underestimate a droid I'm just gonna pause this for you in case of copyright, but also this wouldn't have happened if it was Harvard. Just say it Yeah Ingenuity and teamwork They threw something in the treads Ingenious If you're gonna give wins If the point of assuming wins for gravity, I'll let him have that one, I guess You know, there's a difference between like a bunch of people being there when a thing happens And actually those people working together to use their unique skills in cooperation with each other To achieve a result I think this is the former Terrific, you're not gonna believe how well this is gonna turn out. It's gonna be great optimism Three of you gets cut off here he says this makes sense. He says this makes sense What to do that? Oh boy We're gonna have to do that whatever happened I I'm I'm just talking about enjoyment. I like the movie and I'm trying to help other people enjoy it It's like no, he said this makes sense because of x it's like we're using argumentation, mr. Cinnamon's we're gonna we're gonna have to go over aren't we so Yeah Three p.o. gets cut off. It makes 100 sense that nod nod siths wouldn't want any old scavenger to translate a sith map and Unleash darkness onto the galaxy accidentally Why would reading sith unleash darkness over the galaxy? Okay, I know so many ways to talk about this. Let's see what the what's the best way to start Like it's world war two, right? You're the americans and you say all right None of you speak german, right? God forbid you summon a german creature that could take over because we don't want anyone We don't want anyone speaking german on this side that that's not going to be useful That's not going to be helpful We definitely do not want anyone who can read or understand or speak german and if you can't understand german You are ordered to never say it out loud Um So I would make the reverse argument I'd be like it makes 100 percent says it says that non siths would want old scavengers Like sith maps and details and records to be decoded And figured out in case there's some kind of horrible thing They've got plans somewhere or something just to understand what the hell's going on with all the different things The idea that his logic is they might unleash darkness onto the galaxy accidentally. What are you talking about? It's like it's like the book of the dead from the mummy if that's what I mean Then it caused his magic bad stuff to be like the necronomicon They say a bunch of sith words that this creature claws its way from hell and starts Salting the galaxy eating planets like no Oh my goodness that monster is so unnatural. How could this have happened? Well Language or can they can they be written in just normal language? So how does that work? And why would they allow him to read it but not? You know exactly that's speaking. Why wouldn't they just not program it? Why wouldn't they just make it like An illegal language or something that you can't be programmed to do a droid because it shouldn't be spoken If it's so dangerous, you'd imagine it just you wouldn't be able to read it at all I love that he says it makes it why would you say a hundred percent makes sense? Why would you do this to us? I Can I know exactly what it means so I could I could carry out the orders I could do them, but I can't tell other people about them It's funny. There's a character in an angel episode that's cursed by a magic spell to not be able to say anything that Happened in a meeting he had with some people about secret stuff And he just says it's fine though. I could write it. It's like a joke It's funny that that's the case and ironically I'm like c3b. Oh, can you write it down? What Someone or play gestures like there's As we all know as all of us who know how to program No, that's not me But you can program the spirit of a rule into a machine right and it just knows what you're talking about it just understands And think about it like you go so c3b this this this planet That we need to go to it Is it is it in this half of the galaxy and he just he just you know Looks back and forth makes a no sort of signal and then you cut those in half and choose up or down And you just do that for it like you know a day Until you finally get down to where you were looking for and you're like, oh, wow We did it He didn't tell you anything. He was just nodding But what but c3b wasn't so c3b was made by Anakin Skywalker Darth Vader, why would Anakin Skywalker program c3b to not be able to speak? Well, the counter I've heard to that is that he wouldn't have plugged in all of this shit for him He would have just downloaded some kind of standard os for a protocol droid. I imagine it's like, okay I think that's reasonable Um, but c3b actually says in the rise of Skywalker before he's cut off That the republic introduced this rule and then he gets like he stopped the implication being that this is a new thing That happened between the ot and the sequels that the the republic made a law And this is why he's saying it makes sense the republic will like we can't have you speaking No, we can have you reading it, but we can't have you speaking it Because you might unleash darkness on the galaxy Why not just outlaw the language? You could probably make the argument that what you couldn't actually but like It'd be interesting to look at it as if the republic had been subverted somehow by the first order Because it's like they've got all these rules that actively hamper their ability to get anything done Like they're not allowed to decode sith language that could give them intel on what the sith are doing They're not allowed to like Apparently take any decisive action against the first order The more that I learn about this new republic the shittier they are. Yeah, they're amazing Absolutely amazing. But again, why let them read it in that scenario? There's just no you can't make this make sense But he's like no put him said okay I'm glad he felt that it makes sense Let's scavenger Pretend this is what you wanted. Oh, it's fine. Man. It's so good been unleashed darkness onto the galaxy accidentally It wouldn't be star wars without a big monster of some kind what? All right, sure Yeah, I saw a big monster and I clapped Why why another new force ability for the movies? But you probably noticed that ray's been reading the old texts And you really think the jedi didn't have a don't fucking go there Okay, first off typo second off There is no fucking way that if this wasn't something they knew how to do They wouldn't be using it all the time. How would the how would the jedi and the prequels not know about this? What those books pre-date like all of the jedi from ever and it's just like oh It's just there's this thing in there called force healing by the way Do you want to learn this? Oh, no that that wouldn't ever be useful for a protector of the galaxy This is what I mean about the whole logic is his friend and learn logic is his enemy He's like can I explain through logic that she's the only one who knows about force healing? It's like well, I guess if we say that the book is the only way you could have known and the book has been You know like out of commission or or availability since way before the prequels even happened There we go and it's like logic is in the room again Like hey, I'm helping split and then we're like well, hang on a minute. How could that possibly be the case? And why would why would the 10,000 year? You know jedi rule not have any idea that force healing exists. That's ridiculous and the second that happens He's like no logic get out of the house logic logic like no no my pop tarts are done I gotta go get them before they get cold again I like to think that there's some horrible side effects to do in this like force healing like you can heal someone But it gives you cancer or something like I mean, I'd be cool. That's probably how I would want to do it. You can't like you can't heal a mortal wound you can only heal Wounds in general that could necessarily maybe kill you if you you will have to learn for a while But it'll also it'll make your nose bleed or you'll be weak after doing it for a while that sort of thing You just just say it takes a long time to do a lot of concentration so it can't be done in combat or stressful scenarios It um It's you know, you can put all these limitations on it instead of just oh, yeah rake can just heal this monster Here and she knew that if she did that it would give them a way out It's like oh The monster was probably going like why the fuck are you touching me? How did I just you should be afraid of me? Blah It was a particularly intelligent monster the fact that it stayed still while she did this and then after she did it It was like thanks, bro Instead of being like what? Hmm Yeah, didn't he earlier say that the force is just magic anyway So fuck it like like he had that kind of attitude, but the second he's like maybe I can explain this He's like no, no, it's not just magic bullshit. That makes sense guys Force version of cure three or maybe ray watch the Mandalorian Yeah, I was shitting that too. Yeah, they did not have a force for A little every time I see that fucking scene so stupid um It's a win because She jumped and she jumped. Yeah a win Doug I admit it's a weird scene But we find out later that kylo's goal here was again trying to confirm what the emperor said by pulling the palpatine power out of her How do you tell we was to kill her? Like 500 miles an hour. How do you pull that? Why wouldn't it just pull jedi power out of it? Why would this be what pulls evil power out of it? Like what what do you mean ramming him with a tie fighter? I'm gonna splatter the sift right out of you And then of course the idea that it's like so cali you try to kill her He's like, yes, why did you fire the you know the fucking lasers? It's like no No Because Well, you could you imagine if this was how like the us air force did things like instead of bombing stuff from like 10,000 feet they just flew along the ground and tried to like ram it out of the way like It's like the worst possible attack pattern you can go for It was cool Like if if you they wanted to actually extract or get her to reveal that she's a palpatine like there's so many better ways you could do that and just If If we go highest benefit that out here and kylo is like I'm gonna I'm gonna force the lightning move She's gonna use that on me. I'm sure of it and I'll get it to be attuned to the dark side And she does she unleashes a whole load of lightning and he explodes and it's like um What's your plan from this point on kylo? It's like well, it's fine. I'm immune to explosions. You're like, oh good first Well, I mean so first he assumes she'd do something I'm sure Well, then why not just park and go talk to her if you're gonna assume that she's gonna do something Oh god, I love this like the desperation. I don't know. She's gonna do something, right? yeah I mean, that's why that's what when I start trying to ram someone and they start running away from me Is that they're trying to escape? I'm like, wait, wait, they're gonna do they're gonna do something, right? I'm sure yeah, they'll do something. It's all god. She's still not looking at me I like as well the the idea that like a jedi jump sort of move. He's like damn it That's a good person move. I was trying to force the bad move out of it. Like fuck whatever And imagine if he was trying to like draw the dark side out of her He'd like do something like personal like he'd maybe like threatened or like hurt her friends or something like that Like that's something that I'd imagine would make more sense than just trying to run her over in the tesser Yeah Yeah Well, she wasn't worth the trouble then reddit seemed mad that he'd risk it but every single lightsaber duel is a risk that English is hard I I have about 17 thoughts swirling in my head and this Amorphous cloud in my mind So someone puts forth that his plan is to force a dark side out of it He's gonna try and kill it to do so and she almost kills him doing so It's all very crazy and insane and none of it really makes any sense and he's like yeah, but force lightsaber fights and stuff. That's risky But when so if you have a scenario where two lightsaber people are fighting with like what like when um When darth vader is fighting luke the first time vader is clearly in control of that fight He blocks all of luke's moves. He's basically toying with him and at the end He decides like okay, boom Uh lightsaber your lightsaber's gone Join me makes the ultimatum at the end He has so much control over this scenario But if you're kylo in that tie fighter and you're speeding towards her like this like what if she just doesn't Jump Like what then you don't have any control over this. You're just hoping that she'll do something That's what he said. I mean she'll do something Because yeah vader only attacks luke felon once luke gets a shot in and it which is quite cool as a Sort of tell for where vader is like. Oh, okay. This is too risky now But uh in kylo's case, it's I don't know. She's gonna do something Someone is going to die force users take that risk constantly and I don't want to call the old It's just a metaphor bro. But this is also a lot The light hides running away I don't want to call the old it's a metaphor bro. Yeah, don't Then don't if you don't want to then don't do it. It's your video. Where would you even want to what stupid person Is is he trying to say like it's not it's not a problem mechanically because if you think about it metaphorically It's like no stop stop right there. We can't just do that every time nonsense happens Into the mechanical reference that he just said he just said it makes sense because this also metaphor Okay Look at the dark side versus the light side the sith will smash through you while the jet. I like to get the high ground I think he really wow You are uh Feeling you are really trying just just that that arm is going really far to grab that point Like this is sad This is sad The the the dark side like to smash through stuff while the light side likes to get the high ground Okay, the sith have been cool and collected inside of pretty much all the star wars movies man count He is very controlled in every scene. He's in it's the the sith are not all belligerent and like They don't jump into scenarios like this Kylo's the Kylo's the only one who's been doing that He's the only one who's been just going insane and choking board members who ask reasonable questions It's like this is something that these movies invented, man So, um, also the high ground thing doesn't work because the because kylo's in a spaceship Um He's not even on the ground shipped them I'm sorry. This scene is no more goofy than There it is man You run out the the the actually wrong logical excuse then it's just metaphor But you don't actually say anything deep because he goes with lol jedi high ground It's like a beam but then by the way the other ones suck It's like you resort to everything you have to defend this scene so you go for poor mechanical reference metaphor What about tizm? It's all it's all stupid. It's all just a space movie. It's like Man, Obi-Wan spin move during Obi-Wan spin move during his duel with fader I'm sorry. How the hell is that the same thing? A slow choreography move it looks a little silly like the way it happens like Connecting to this Exactly it's like alec genis is old in that movie. It's probably you probably couldn't do it that fast. It's It's not the same thing. It's not even close This scene is no more goofy than obi-wan spin move so obi-wan has a spin in a fight. That's kind of silly So that's the it's the same as this weird tie fighter spinny runny flip slice Crash thing with all the context that kylo wants to kill it But also doesn't but also wants to push it to the dark side, but also he's gonna risk his whole life It almost dies, but well does die but doesn't die for some reason That's the same as a spin The two people involved in the tie fighter ray jump thing they kiss at the end of this movie They kiss they smooch they got a romance Okay Hey, I never noticed they didn't get coverage of them dueling from this angle Well, obi-wan is just preparing to die before he's prepared to die Why the hell did you shove this in here? If not for being like you see the new hope is just as bad Gee and this other movie is simply silly happens. Therefore is fine Christ and this is the thing man. Like I don't like to pull this out. But what a nitpick What a nitpick sure Out of nitpicks in the choreography that fight like how is that in any way comparable to this He's holding his lightsaber up in this shot where the fight is still taking place That that's a very tidy form of continuity era. He's like, oh Okay, so there can't So there can't be anything nonsensical or silly in a star wars movie Ever again because that one time in a new hope Well, no, it should never matter because we all got over there Do you remember all of us when we were watching a new hope? We saw this when oh my god star wars is ruined Nothing's ever gonna make sense. What a Whole man. They only work if they did the person who's saying them assumes that they think that the ot is perfect It's like what about this inside of this? Oh, no, the ot's flawed my narrative fell apart. It's like no, there are flaws in the ot man It's like sure But it's not the same. No, no if I drag down a new hope that makes this other movie. I'm defending good Makes a better by comparison Anyway It is meant to be a showcase of the otta's little words of wisdom and empire That's me by my size. Do you a skinny little girl taking out a choice? Okay All right Okay, this so the next argument. It's totally in line with all of star wars See what I mean? We did logically it totally makes sense. It doesn't uh the The fuck it out. I've already forgotten them. He's done four like the the second was better for what he was doing to be Everyone was hey, the other films suck at the fourth one is this is totally in line with the other films That's why when it came out everyone blew their shit because it was just like everything that we've seen before right A small thing beats a bigger thing. This is totally in line with all the stars I'm just like like luke just sees a planet in the distance and grabs it with the force and crushes it Into a tiny little, you know tin can well like see it's it's like leo just said some size matters not It's like poetry That's me by my size. Do you a skinny little girl taking out a tie silencer combine it with this and it's simply there to illustrate the divide Oh, yeah Okay, it illustrates the divide in here. Okay, so does that mean kylo ren because he's supposed to be super conflicted Does that mean he can like accidentally force heal someone when he's trying to kill them? He's trying really hard Zap somebody and he accidentally like cures their diabetes or something This is the thing. I can't remember if it was er or someone else, but she does Essentially shot lightning in this scene. She's like trying really hard to pull and it just goes and it's like, oh Yeah, so it's like you can accidentally let loose lightning Is that the only one you can accidentally let loose? Can you let loose a heel? Like you would think that the easier something is to do the easier it would be able to do by accident You know lighting seems like a very very difficult thing to do, which is why we only see Palpatine and dooku using it as far as i'm aware in the trilogy up to this point And yoda deflecting it Yeah, I mean it's difficult for normal people to do but not for ray. Oh, yeah, ray's so fucking good She can do it by accident I like how um You know the closest they can come to giving her some kind of flaw or failure is like The inability to properly control her enormous powers that nobody else has like that's the best they can do with That is a trade of a mary sue You could have done that You just would have needed to make that consistent throughout the film You could have made it so that like she she has so much power that she like will hurt others or is trying to control it And it's like she needs to limit herself like that that that could have been done Right, but the way they do it where she just randomly accidentally does it and then she's fine throughout the rest of the film It's like that's it's not enough It's not even close She's so flawed with all of her incredible Unimaginable power. Oh my god. She might be going to the dark side guys She used the lightning even though she absolutely did not want to and was totally trying to save someone in that scene She's totally motivated to go to the dark side I forgot as well actually when she's Sitting there levitating in mid-air with rocks like orbiting around her like as if it's absolutely nothing She failed to communicate with all the voices of the past jedi. So that's a that's a real failure on her part Yeah, I mean, you know you had obi-wan and yoda had to train really hard to be able to talk to kwaigon Right one guy Leia's like it's okay. You'll get it You'll be able to talk to all of the people who've ever died in this in this. Yeah, it's it's fine And just you're fucking floating in mid-air and it's not even remarked on like it's even remotely difficult It's just you're doing that just because you can Well, she flies now Let's set that little sigh when she falls down. She's like Falling down calling it falling down. She does a little flip downwards and lands perfectly and gracefully like a fucking 15 year old chinese ballerina It would have it would have made more sense if she fell like all the rocks just fall at one Just like it's a little bit of a rough landing It's like but it's just like she's like oh, okay Because she she literally can't fly that's why people have so much of a trouble with this because she just comes on down It seems very controlled Ah Dark side light side sound design of force pulls still killing sound design way Yeah Whoops yoda was right about the fear anger and suffering thing. No, he wasn't Is he saying she feared to lose chewy and thus made her angry and thus caused suffering No, she was she was a Okay, um All right, let's make no this makes sense. This makes sense Okay, so Ray was very afraid Because She was very afraid that she because chewy was up there And she was afraid that he was going to beat up everyone on the ship before she got any kills herself She was afraid that she was missing out on xp right So that made her angry. She's like this chewy baka wookie man I can't believe That he is stealing all these kills. He's up there ripping people's arms off And shooting them with his blow caster and all this stuff. I'm not getting any xp for this They made her angry campally after all we've been through all the places that he's driven me He'd do this to me, right? And so anger leads to suffering so she wanted him to suffer So she zapped him with the force lightning But by accident which made him suffer When it exploded And he wasn't even dead when it exploded He was on fire because he's made of hair So from all the the whole way through it's hair all the way down when it comes to wikis So he got on fire and then he fell down and then died It makes it makes perfect sense guys Like how after all that all people can say the most you said blow caster instead of bow caster Not I specifically specifically said that was not an accident. I specifically said blow caster Also notice I called him chewy vodka. This is not actually his name You see rags pretending to be the people who write this sort of movie. I was pretending to be I was I was I I'm trying so hard To pretend like you just don't give a fuck about these movies because that's the only way they could have written I'm trying to make this whole thing work, but I can't What is that? Also, I guess I was wrong about her being Obi-Wan's Ascendant Okay, so apparently jj said he felt that the thing fin wanted to tell ray was that he was forced sensitive No, jj. You're the director. He felt It's like it's just nebulous know what he wanted. It's like he knew exactly what he wrote the film It's like he knows you can't make inferences based on what he intended We have to go by with his word and he said he was gonna say it was force sensitive Hmm Or he's going by whatever disney told him to say Yeah, well, that's right. It could have been that they actually, you know had a robot So whatever an original cut though, it's like nah, we'll get rid of that. We want kylo to be the one He's like, oh because remember we read those uh Those leaks of like behind the scenes shit and apparently jj was very unhappy with the kylo ray kiss Um, so I think a lot of people were yeah, I think a lot of people you know I suppose that's true Right that he he really did want to tell her that he's force sensitive like why would you pick that moment when you're getting pulled Yeah, I don't I don't see what what was so important about it. It's like oh before we die I just need you to know them force sensitive. I can sort of move stuff by by two. It's like, okay all right It's tough I wish we could yeah see because you know if we if they were slowly falling in and he's like I'm force sensitive too and then she goes. Oh my god. That's so crazy. It's so cool Isn't it the ability to be able to move stuff with your mind and he's like Yeah, who'd be super useful to be able to do that if one was sinking in sand, you know Like if someone could fly essentially through the force Super useful, but never mind. We're gonna die now. Oh, no, it's fine. This leads us to exactly where we needed to go This film is very well written Of course So fine, okay, but how is it not that fin knew she was palpatine's granddad? He says this later She's not herself. Do you have no idea what she's fighting and you do do you so does leah and we find Wait, so he's suggesting that the secret was that fin knew she was a palpatine It told him I thought that it was bad writing but turns out it's bad writing. How would she know this? I Finn doesn't know anything He feels everything. He's applying that fin knew on the desert planet. How? Because you can argue that he would have known maybe when she was like palpate. No, no, I got nothing I don't know how fin would have known No, I actually I've got to figure it out. He was working sanitation When she was born on exegalia Yeah, so he knows she just happens to be working. I was actually I really wish they'd brought that out again like, uh Exegals, you know weaknesses are at the bottom base and whatever whatever like, how do you know that? He's like I used to work sanitation here. Just like yep. Yep He always listen that means if there's anything it That means that fin would know garbage writing Yeah Because he works with sanitation Why does why does luke look homeless in this movie? Because he is homeless in this movie. Yeah, that's true. I guess he's dead. He doesn't have a home I know it even later dead in sight because you're a palpate lay anew it too. So I'm going with that. Okay. I'm like jay jay forgot a complaint that comes up a lot is that there are lots of death fakes Out in this movie. Yes, there are and there's no way to actually argue against that But let's see you do it anyway, but only 120 seconds have passed. What? Okay, all right. Only only two minutes. Oh, all right. That's two minutes of time We're supposed to believe chewy's dead then you agree because literally everybody thought chewy was dead here I mean It doesn't matter if it's two minutes or two hours like if you make a the audience think the character's dead That's a fake death. Yeah, it's a fake out It could happen for one second. It wouldn't matter. It would be a fake out But the only people who didn't know who did know he's coming back and people who fucking knew the leaks or spread the leaks And even then you could assume that you might be wrong. The leaks might have been wrong But yeah, this is ridiculous. This is not a counter argument at all. Do you know what a fake out is? So it wasn't meant to be a trick on the audience. It was literally a trick on the audience How could you interpret it as any other thing It was also a trick on ray. I don't how do you how do you argue this? It's We were told chewy is in there thing explodes two minutes later. We see chewy. It's like, oh, so he's not dead It's not the movie was like he's not in there by the way. He's not in there. Okay. It works because Palpatine was in a ship and that exploded And he's alive So we have no reason to think that chewy can't be in an exploding ship and he lives too Maybe chewy. Maybe this means that chewy's a palpatine. That's what uh fin was trying to say He was like ray ray chewy's a palpatine ray and then ray chewy's a palpatine. He's gonna betray So then he meaning just a quick way for ray to have some serious perceived consequences for losing control Which is a fake out Yeah, why do you love it if you accidentally shoot your friend and you think they're dead But then they're not you're still gonna be more careful next If you accidentally shoot your friend, you're gonna be more careful next time. What? Yeah, like I thought I shot my friend, but it turns out I didn't so next time I shoot them Oh my god, I need to slow this right down. He's saying that if I shot rags by accident and then rags was like It's just you just grazed me. I'm not actually dead. I'm gonna be like next time. I accidentally shoot you I'm gonna be much more careful. What the hell you mean? Oh, that's going straight to gendalf. What the hell I don't see how he's construing this into a positive. He's like he's he's manipulating all this He's saying somehow this is good and I'm like doesn't change the death fake out This this this this film is shit You know what else is shit? Oh, yeah, I do that. I accidentally call the things we watch movies because they're so Only You're gonna be more careful next time and I guess did he count that as a win? I didn't even catch that. Let's just roll it back to make sure But only 120 seconds have passed so it wasn't meant to be a trick on the audience of any meaning Just fyi I I I still can't get over it. I if I accidentally shot rags I'd be like gee that's really bad whether or not rags is alive That's just a really bad thing. That's just happened Perceived consequences for losing control if you accidentally shoot your friend and you think they're dead But then they're not you're still gonna be more careful next time So then that was a win. It was a win. That was a win. All right. He gave it a win It's a win boys and girls You you highlight that people have a big issue with the fake out and instead of just going Yeah, it was a fake out or not addressing it at all. You instead turn it into a victory by saying She's gonna be more careful when she tries to kill her france next time Jesus nights of renter actually just more jango fat clones Are they what? I do not understand is he saying because I can the ship I guess yeah because boba tracks them in In empire an asteroid field. So they're jango vet clones Though jango fat didn't do that instead of the prequel trilogy. Well, okay, let me explain It's a very complicated and very extensive jokes. You have boba fat tracked Han Solo They're tracking them and boba fat is a clone of jango. So they're jango fat clones in order to explain how they're tracking lull Get it lull lull lull lull It's like poetry, right? They're tracking boba fat did that they probably boba fat clones lull jango fat clones Yeah, we did it. We did a guy's as a joke It's like jango a tree. Yeah, it's similar in a very Ha Ray said he'd do the same just transferred a bit of life. You would have done the same Oh, okay. Well, I mean that's a win. That's like It's just electricity. Uh, okay Transferred a bit of life Okay Just look at his pretty face before you commit to murdering him Yeah, smart play your friend's old job was running spice. You know what they say key who controls the spice smell out You were storm trooper. Were you a spice runner? Were you a scavenger? We could do this all night? True. No princesses or farmers this time around. Wait, I'm sorry. What what so Why is this what? You're brainwashed into like slavery of attacking people and someone who scavenges because otherwise they die and someone Who runs drugs? This is all on the same level morally. I I suppose There's no princess running spice. Well, I'm confused as to what's wrong with any of them Like how can you condemn somebody for being brainwashed? Like literally with a fucking non better And then like look at you scavenger you're morally dubious like what Okay Being homeless it's like I don't know what's the harm in being a scavenger She lived on a on a poor planet where she had to pick apart parts to buy food Yeah, well, maybe she shouldn't have been born Maybe Finn should have thought twice before being brainwashed. You're right. Yeah The thing is like what's the context behind po being a spice runner? Like maybe it was that or his family starves to death Like well, yeah, we don't know any number of explanations for it Like Are they gonna not be a friend anymore? Are they are gonna are they gonna kick them out of the resistance? You don't even seem all that They seem just like asking out of genuine curiosity too. That's the weird thing. They're just like you were a spice runner. It's like, okay Yeah, I've done lots of things in my life. Let's move on because we've got more important shit to deal with Yeah, believe it or not. We didn't meet on the first day. I existed Whoa Oh, right, but I'm starting to feel a theme happening here concerning not being defined by your past Wow, Ray's amazing Okay, if he if she would have just pulled the trigger she to win not only that but Even in the cinema, I remember just being like for fuck's sake when she's like, hey Made a matter to you, but I like you like course you like it. Fuck it. Everybody likes it I know when people beat the shit out of me with a stick. I'm just like, man, you're great This is going to be JJ just taking the piss at this point Like, uh, what's all the traits of a Mary soup people just inexplicably like them for no reason Oh, fuck it. I'm just gonna play up to this. It's a part of the theme of Nothing you care, but I think you're okay. Okay, making new friends. Oh, it's a way to care To attack you and beat up all your guys and One of those things where you should just shoot her and be done with it. But oh, no Plot needs her to be alive. So, okay 88 compliant ramp for droids John Williams, if anyone's earned a cameo Oh What guy? Oh, wait, which what was this cameo? He's like a bartender. I guess Oh, okay Of all the movies apparently there are a craft in a droid parts from throughout the series But none seem to be visible in the movie, but they do get nemesis Okay, all right Babu Frick is always a win especially voiced by moaning mortal who controlled his robotic mouth and eyes with a remote control Uh, all right. Okay. What can I say? I'm a voice actor. All right. Yeah Sounds like You know the odds better than any of us Using his own thing against him. What are you doing there? Like if I like Finn's jacket Dinkers twin Again gravity is functioning in this scene, so They're on a ding Ding ding Let's do observations. Wow. Thank you. Thank you robot. Thank you. Thank you robot Yeah Taking one last look at the group of people I've had five minutes of screen time with The line is desperate. The line is literally saying this scene is sad and it's not because the c-3po shouldn't know them It's desperation. I feel I feel bad for c-3po. I don't give a shit about the rest of them Yeah, like I keep giving him a room by himself and I would have been sad for c-3po Like all the reactions during this whole scene. They're mostly just like just do it just get it over It's like, yeah, they don't really care Oh No, seriously, bobbin was amazing Okay, all right Man, he gave him he gave bobbin frick like fucking seven wins or some shit. It's just like piling him on Gotta fluff that number up. We destroy the city A little vader a little hon. No, what? He was that's just he pointed at a vader pointed at people started hard rubber Makes sense Stop it Because he was threatening her Um pointed at 3po when he was pointing out something statistical fingers do they point Little huh Evil 3po is not something I knew I wanted but I'm glad it's here into my memory now Might get you on a capital shift. He's got red eyes win He's not evil. He's just translating sith language. He doesn't do anything evil as a result of that Turns off like immediately after that It's so weird. He was very evil that way. He was very helpful okay So like yeah, it's an insane thing to give him but hear me out Whoa, you've skipped over the existence of it first Like how ridiculous that is it's a fucking ship that could just get you past all first order security. It's like, oh Either way, you wouldn't fucking believe what I have in my pocket right now, fin Which is fucking nonsense because oh whatever the fucking name is if you remember the reasoning here as well It's like the galaxy isn't getting any better. So escaping kajimi probably won't change much for zori like There's millions of planets in this galaxy like every part of it can't be evil Oh, well galaxy sucks whatever the trade fed or that there are thousands of solar systems wanted to leave the republic in episode two The scale of this universe is insanely vast She could fuck off to who knows where she can go to place. He can go outside of the you anywhere She could go to a canto bite and just party her life away in a casino getting drunk boy It's like I'll give you this incredibly useful thing because I don't know You're doing something That's important and like I said the coin doesn't even make sense Because you have to look like an actual first-order ship. You can't just scan like one if you remember when Stupid pride goes into the the bay and he's like what the hell is that ship and it's like oh, but it's got a coin It's fine It doesn't matter that it looks like shit, right? But no, apparently like because you remember when when they they're doing the shuttle tyderium thing in in return of the jedi If they had this chip like what difference would that even make you you are in it Unless you're in an empire ship or a first-order ship if you're just in some random ship But you register as a good guy. They'll just be like why you in that ship You don't get anywhere This would be the equivalent of like in the present day Like you murder some general in the military and take his id card and just drive up to the pentagon in your beaten up old car Like looking nothing like him and just hand the card over and they're like, no, okay, and you go Wow, that works Like you're not general adams. It's like perhaps you didn't see the card that i'm holding What do you think I murdered him and stole his card? See this is why you're out here working the gate instead of inside there at a fancy office job We missed it. But when he mentioned the jango fat clothes, you spelt jango with an e Where where where's the where's the e supposed to be? I don't understand the e put well jango is how he's felt jango Anyone up for a game of jango jango fat All right, yeah, anyway, so what's his what's his uh, how is this a weird and tell me The galaxy isn't getting better. So escaping kajimi probably won't change much for zory But helping po could lead to change which we know it does. So it was the right call It hasn't exactly had a good track record with defeating the first order Also, this is to say the friend this isn't to Continue their mission at this point. They didn't even know they needed the um the knife. They're just going to go Save chewie. That's why they need that coin like the coin will help them do that They've got their mission is right in front of them. They've got the the c3po translation They've got the coordinates they should leave but she's like nah, you can take this coin and save your friend It's like wow you're giving up what is an incredible piece of technology in terms of Valuableness to the fucking war and you're like lol go save somebody. This is what I meant I think I said in my video There should have been a scene where they address whether or not chewie is worth it and this this is what I mean It's a really hard choice to make. It's like is chewie worth potentially destroying our entire mission to save the world I don't know Or if po steals it from her You know, you got a big ambiguity to his character that he's willing to screw over someone he used to know in order to save one of his friends I like I like that he says it works out. So it was the right call. That's like some great That's yeah, that's some that's some logic right there. That's how that works And he was just like, hey, you know, she's she doesn't really need it Why the fuck does she have it then? It's okay that we're here. It's okay that you're here. It's good honesty Honesty It's mind trick. All right. You know Like like using mind control tricks on stormtroopers used to be like very limited and it kind of looked plausible When like Obi-Wan did it but to do it here and it just turned it into a goofy joke This is just shit like Obi-Wan instead of a new hope he didn't just walk through the death star and every stormtrooper He saw he just said it's okay that i'm here. I'm just going to go over to the the tractor beam generator It's like it's okay that you're destroying the tractor beam generator. It's okay. Yeah, they would say all these like Yeah, dumb lines like hey, that's great. I'm so pleased you're destroying this I'm gonna It's okay that you're gonna walk up to the emperor and kill Also, does he it he doesn't bring up the fact that kajimi gets bloated up So she gives away the thing that was gonna supposed to get her off the planet She found another way off rags one. Oh, yeah, that's right. I I know, but it's just it's all it's all so terrible It's all just so awful Just pretend that it's what you wanted all along Yeah, how do you feel about it? How do you feel about it now explain? I I feel like now that I look at it from this fresh new perspective. It it's all okay It all kind of works out in ways that I didn't think possible Does she do that to us right? Oh, no, no, no, of course If we're it only works on the weak minded, which is the smartest distraction slash insult ever Not you you're too smart. I don't know if that's the case. I don't think it's about intelligence She didn't do that. She didn't say like no You guys are too smart for that like as a fun little joke or something. It's like no That's I mean that you just added and then gave a win for but okay Yeah, good job Of course, we can't figure chewy Yeah, right here. Why is he still doing that sub-tile thing? Because it's really funny and he has to keep milking it. Okay, haha Finn's been studying tree work No, it's true. We're the only ones on board. You can understand that thing All right, he's saying that finn can understand chewing now. So I guess he must have learned the sherry wook language which That was fast. That's a win apparently and yeah, man, you you learned the wookie language in a year. Not bad Yeah, I would have imagined he'd be busy doing war stuff, but yeah, it's fair enough I guess I just picked up a little conversational wookie here in there Which way to the train station And it's funny because he has more reason to know wookie than ray does and yet it's a reverse on who doesn't doesn't Man, she's great. Yeah, she's so awesome Well, everyone has anti storm to bring these days When this just killed everybody all over forms through and murdered all the storm It's almost like until they did useless Did you he missed being called scum did he laugh that wasn't a laugh I'm willing to let people interpret what that noise exactly was. I don't really Laugh don't you give this to him. I'm fucking. I don't know. It's it's a goggly noise Like I took listen between the last Jedi in the rise of Skywalker. I learned wookie as well Finn and I were in a class Maybe the subtitles will reveal it wookie laughing noises or wookie sad noises That was grudging acceptance Sneaky sad it's funny though He does it uh jay longwood an edit of this as well in the um in the desert Where she's just looking around and the music everything goes quiet and she looks over and she can see him He just goes he says I think yeah, because the joke in my head was like he just goes hi The one thing he does in the film is help she wants to kill you Oh, it's so funny Yes, I was wrong about obi-wan and his british accent being connected to ray, but palpatine Wait, does palpatine have a presence or some considered to be unnatural? Yes, so I was still right Oh, is that a British accent? You know, you like accents aren't like hereditary like they're not genetic Well, yeah, she fucking abandoned her which was super young so like what? She wouldn't adopt act. Yeah, she would adopt uncapped lutz accent Really should probably sound like an idiot. Yeah, she would be asking people about portions all the time Oh, why can't she talk like that? That would be amazing. She'd be like the chick from uh pig malion The chick from pig malion Yeah What is pig? You know the play No, I don't The george bernard shaw play pig malion No, I am I am uncultured on this one We are not aware of your highfalutin Named after a greek mythological figure. Look at you rags. Mr. Luna tism. No, okay. No. No, it's like So there was uh, you know my fair lady Yeah That's that's it's the same it's the chick at the beginning of my fair lady The protagonist so is she like a pig alien? No, no, okay. So the the story of my fair lady Right is that some guy basically makes a bet with someone else that he can take this This really super poor popper lady And turn her and turn her into a super high class well-spoken Noble woman that can fool all of his super rich friends, right? Uh-huh and but and then they start having feelings for each other It was a move it was a movie with um, uh Audrey Hepburn in it I know that one. Yes Oh, I'm sorry. It's uh Yeah, Audrey Hepburn. I gotta make sure I gotta make sure I don't I don't mix up Catherine Hepburn and Audrey Hepburn Just want double-check and making sure But I was Even carry on. Oh, yeah, that's the modern reimagining of that one would be she's all that I She's all that it's not freddie. I don't even know about she's all that I've never heard of that That is freddie prince jr. Yeah The idea is like high school jock makes a bet he can turn an unattractive girl into a school's prom queen Yeah, and they end up falling in love I think Oh I've never even I've never even heard Um Oh my god, rogue was in that too. Oh my god Matthew little fucking shaggy dude was in that shit. Oh my god That's a blast from the past. Anyway back to uh rise of the sky walking Yeah Dual through space you can tell it was filmed with both backdrops and it brings you into the crazy, all right Yeah, I mean What can you even say like yeah, I agree all this crazy I bring you back to my previous point like how would this actually look if this was an outside observer Like just these two people phasing in right of like different locations and realities or is it just like kyle looks like he's attacking nothing I guess But then she can interact with stuff in his location. So I don't know Trained now and kylo is still basically toying with her this time. He hasn't been gut-trapped by a bowcaster I'm the spy hugs after everything Nathan put wait. Sorry. What do you say about the bowcaster that slipped me through space You can tell it's filmed with both backdrops and it ties you into the craziness. They're both experiencing By the way, ray is trained now and kylo is still basically toying with her this time. He hasn't been gut-trapped by He only He shot us he got shot and he was mostly conflicted because he killed his dad That's why he lost in the force awakens not because raise mary sue Not because she just fucking overpowered the shit out of him at the end of it when he was like Mostly winning up to that point. Not to mention that she beat him in tlj with a little boss Battle he got knocked out. She was fine. Uh But yeah, now that she's been given this was the funny thing about this film It's like look she's been given trading now. It's justified that she's op and we're all like, oh, okay Now she's losing it. Now. Oh, yeah I feel like you're six years behind to it. Okay, sure. We got it eventually Yay By bowcaster. I'm the spy hugs after everything nathan put kaleb through with that robot. He still saves it I get it as a reference to deus machinemana Maybe to say more deus ex machina. No, ex machina. That film is awesome. By the way, everyone should watch it Those actors are both in it Because that's the jose. That was that was a joke. The joke is deus Because I saw the film and it was really good. Mm-hmm. Very an oscar isaac was in it And he's yeah, he's he's pretty awesome. So is uh, dumb hole gleason As it's a smaller story and it makes you think and it's well acted and it's just, you know, it's Thank you for you don't just have to rather watch you and his power you are a palpating Okay, more on this in part two, but I think a lot of us saw this coming I don't think any of us fucking saw this coming Oh, yeah, I think a lot of us all ray being palpatine's granddaughter We all knew it was good. It definitely wasn't pulled out of the writers assholes randomly one day No totally makes sense And if you didn't see it coming you're an idiot and you need to learn about filmmaking And I see it as part of a middle of the road answer to two questions Why she bad ass and how she nobody the other part is finn having force powers being a jedi is still open to anyone But to play in this story that's always been about bloodlines. You gotta have one Okay, sure. Okay. Who was what was mace? I guess mace window had a bloodline And yoda has a bloodline the window bloodline and the da bloodline because he's his business. Yo, yeah Yeah, well, that's how they'd say that was his name was da and people would always be like yo da and he'd be like Here I am Wait at that point if his name was da then his first name would be d and the second name would be a I guess Odido da and uh, yeah these part of the a family that's the bloodline. It makes total sense Oh, I love that little force brace force brace is that a new force ability? I don't know He's just using the force to not be blown away. It's just counteracting a force push if you will a push of force on him Why am I even bothering Ray? I know you people keep telling me they know me I always like this but especially the trailer where it's like, I think nobody knows me. It's like, yeah, that's the problem We still don't know what your character is. Yeah I'm afraid no one does kylo ren's theme under there would beg to differ Oh, no kylo was wrong about her consistently. He kept saying she'll turn to the dark side. She didn't Yeah, she doesn't so nobody really knows anything about her and neither does she and then she's just like lol in the sky walker That's that's this story for you The closest thing you could say that she does that's dark side is accidentally force lightning But again, that wasn't anything to do with the dark side. Well, this is what I mean when Anakin kills the latuscan raiders We're all like That's some vengeance right there and that's taking it way further than one might would consider a good guy figured any way shape or form That's killed the children's But uh, yeah, accidentally shooting off some lightning, you know If in a private setting with two Jedi chilling out one of them just zaps like, you know, I don't know anything that's harmless I'd be like, oh cool. I'm like, well, I'm a Sith now. I guess Oh How about that? That's how that's how they get you. That's how they get you Okay, so the dagger lining up generally does work because 3po does say No No No, we're on no, you know, you know Yet southern shore of war and do you have any idea how big an area that is that's half a lot of ground That's a shore. That's not oh it makes sense What the hell why does he keep doing this? Also, I think they landed on the southern shore Like if like, you know rags found this like thing that was hidden beneath one of the many bricks, you know, like Uh, just just this extremely specific thing and it's like, well, let's explain because someone said it's over in that direction You know, that's good enough, right But this is a stretch. Oh, thank goodness He still thinks it's a stretch It's not actually a stretch. It's just broken, but he's calling it a stretch, so At least we're good. We at least we got that far. Yeah Okay, defensive the indefensible the death star was built to exist in space Therefore any elements within an atmosphere including crashing waves aren't going to erode the outer no It's not it's not even necessarily about that. It's the fact that it's always shifting the place in which it is Staying That it's become static the waves are moving around which means it's not going to be able to settle properly We're not saying like and even How do you even make this claim like oh, it's strong in space therefore I can deal with waves like first of all water and space are two very different things Secondly, all the damage it would have sustained when coming into atmosphere Post expo. This is post explosion post reentry into a planet's ocean This this death star has been through a lot I feel Also, I need to use the lube carry on without me talk about how dumb this is We're led We're led to believe that that knife was carved actually not shortly I I rewatch the scene from there and you can see those little carvings are in The knife in the flashback where he kills raised parents So you're like this was probably done 30 years ago and it's like there's been no shift In that material it just he carved it at that specific time I suppose we're supposed to ignore the fact that we saw this thing get like obliterated vaporized like But yeah, ignoring that lucky the room that they they needed survived, I guess I just love that there's glass in the windows. That's always amused me ever since I saw it in the trailers There's glass in the window of that thing. How is that entire throne room not completely a player? It's lucky that it happens to be oriented correctly as well Like it's not upside down or underwater or something like that It's just like perfectly positioned so that you can walk around inside it It would actually be more interesting wouldn't it if it was underwater But it would have to it would be a struggle to get to this thing But nope, it's as easily as floating over and the door even opens up for you and nobody has checked this She's the first person in 30 years to do so Yeah, like nobody might be interested in what the emperor's throne room Nope was like or whether there might be interesting artifacts to recover. Nothing. Just leave it. It's fine For shell and the idea is that it's so massive nothing is going to shift its position. So 30 years later That's not how that works The bigger you are it means that you're not gonna fucking the weight of this thing and having been so structurally damaged means that it's like There's a huge likelihood. It's all just gonna collapse But no, it's because it's big that it doesn't fall apart That's how that works Later the dagger might still line up. Yeah too close to call Oh, he actually didn't give it a win cool He said it was defense the indefensible. So I'm like, okay Why even bother? I'm glad you admit that Sound design of the hollowed out giant space station is on point again And for me this whole jump to the way finder is another tour of shadow moses years later See this is kind of This is the thing someone would be like, don't you think you should celebrate good sound design? I'm like, yeah, but when you're like desperately clawing at that as why the film is good probably in trouble That's a point that he repeats a lot Vader's imperial march. Why the fuck is it now? I agree. It doesn't make it That scene is between two skywalkers. That's the point of that music and inside of this It's like it's not it should have been like an emperor theme or something like that. It's it's misplaced How do you put how do you put that here? Like I just don't get it. What is the justification for putting that here? It's like, ah, I like the song like oh okay It's only on strings from when luke took his mask off. I'm the only one who can smell dead death star That's all he did by the way. He highlighted where that song is from. That's it In this ding it's yeah Good job. Yeah, it's it's jangling keys and you win it because of that So it worked that door open because she's a palpatine. It was clearly you see what the door opened because she's a palpatine I wanted to scatter genetics. It was like you're a palpatine How is it powered? Yeah, how's there any electricity still? What do you mean? It's powered by her being a palpatine Secret room after all All right, probably not what you were picturing, but there's the double-sided saber you all asked for Did you guys ask for a double-sided lightsaber did one of us? I don't know I think it's just like, okay. Sure. I certainly didn't ask for one that folds out like a pocket knife I love er noting that when she came up with that design for her dark side dream She came up with the swiss army lightsaber. It's so embarrassing It's just it's a terrible design. It does not make any sense at all. It's so tactically useless It seemed to be that there was two caps when that trailer came out one was oh so cool and the other was what? Why would why would anyone? Like the crossguard lightsaber is controversial enough, but like that thing just does not make any sense at all It's like in no reality would that be helpful in combat Yeah, you know you'll last for at the end of the movie she's got two lightsabers So I guess it would make sense that two is better than one Is it just gg yet again trying to one up something that's been done already It's like uh Darth Maul already had a double lightsaber. What can we do? One that will like fold out while the while the things ignite it. So it looks cool Don't you think it's really cool though? No? Oh Prepare for the num shut lightsaber coming soon Yeah, I think you should have gone for a triple bladed one Like there's just a third blade that just comes out like horizontally from it And you've just got this horrendous world of blades that's just going to slice your own limbs off Hmm How about these two getting a final confrontation in the place both of their grandfathers had a final confrontation with their Jedi master? Um It seemed like he was trying to draw some kind of connection But he just threw in the everyone was really related to these seeds kind of so That's meaningful Like okay, so the idea being that you have uh vader is trying to get like some form of a redemption During a scene where his son is being corrupted by a guy now that guy's granddaughter is fighting the son of the guy And girl whose grand his grandfather was the guy who did you know what I mean? You're like trying to draw these lines. You're like this is meaningful. I think And then you realize like why are they in that room again? Oh, well, I don't know. They just are Lots of different stupid reasons, but that's why they're there. It's meaningful. Shut up The best lightsaber duels and star wars are the ones that like have personal stakes where it's like there's there's Character motivated reasons for why they're fighting. They're like either trying to Like test each other or they're they're trying to like seek redemption It's like those are the ones that have a lot of impact like the trouble with this fight is that it's all just built on I destroyed wayfinder now you need me and she's like no you destroyed my wayfinder It's like they're fighting for just the flimsiest reason You're like what what is the stakes that occur if any character were to die in this scene And we don't even know if either of them want to kill each other or not We're just sitting here like I don't know Kylo seems to want to push her to the dark side But he's still willing to actually deliver a final blow I don't even know that I guess she wants to kill him because she kind of does Then yeah, it's like everything gets retracted then it's like she Delivers a killer blow, but then she heals him up and leaves. It's like Her movie doesn't make you Why were they fighting again? It's like it's it's so flimsy and like it's it's it feels like they just did it because they needed a lightsaber fight They're like we need big lightsaber fight on Death Star. It's like it's a cool location It'll look really neat. It's just like it does I guess but Why would have had you know you would have had a little bit more of something if like Kylo hadn't destroyed the wayfinder first Like if they were fighting over the wayfinder and it was like rolling around the floor and kicking and like they were like Yeah, then you would actually have something for them to fight about like there's a reason for them to fight now They're just like standing there fighting And we're all just waiting for the end of it like the sea right we're just like I don't know someone's gonna do something at some point. That's I'm just waiting Since they are friends after this counts as a final fight in the rain, which is always a win Heights in rain cool. I guess sure But he said I need to roll that back. What was the comment about them being friends? Why these two getting a final confrontation in the place both of their grandfathers had a final confrontation with their Jedi master Since they are friends after this this counts as a final fight in Oh, they're friends after this that means this counts as the final fight and it's in rain. That's a win technically it's not rain, but Because it's just waves, but okay All right. I guess they're wet Well, yeah You can do some interesting visual stuff with like fights Like I love the the fight in the last samurai in the rain Like that that fight isn't good because of the rain, but it's like it's good because of the stuff backing it But like the rain's still cool. It's cool. Have a fight to the atmosphere But like I don't know if that was his goal with this channel to be like I want to point out stuff that's cool and you're like look at this cool Place they're fighting. How cool is it that the waves are slamming against this whole place? How cool is it the sounds and the looks of the lightsaber slamming against each other? I just be like all right. It is so cool Yeah, really this video should have been called everything cool about the rise of skywalker And I'm like sure this stuff is cool. I guess but it's like this is not this is not mean the movie is great These are not great elements. This is very surface level and just it's not it's not something that's substantive In the rain, which is always a win So we get superhero landings all the time, but these are force landings. I'm sure we've seen two Things inside It happens all the time Can a jedi ever die from a fall? Do in attack of the clones remember the arena he he jumps out when like jango fets shoots him with a flamethrower and he any force lands. Yeah, I mean Windy falls a really long way in the genosis place So i'm assuming there is no fall that jedi Irratically it makes sense right because before you fall You would force push before you're gonna slam into the ground and then you'd be fine, but yeah, I don't know And obviously jedi can jump in great distances. That's that's the thing That's why you don't have them fly because they can jump and they can land very well So like they have a little bit of a power but like you just don't make them fly That's force landing and all that makes sense Just that shot of the duel in the background and even though All right, a blue light and a red light moving a little in the background Okay I enjoyed the over-the-top choreographed fighting in the prequels. I always love the raw emotion of sequel duels Visually, this is one of my favorite motion. What's the raw motion of this? Please explain to me. Am I supposed to be feeling well? Yeah, what what what are these characters goals right now? I'm desperately trying to make great evil even though. I don't really believe in evil right now No Like I'm not feeling that my king. I'm gonna hit him I've been destroyed by wave finder. It's like it's like you broke my rc car Yeah, it's it's that's that's the equivalent of the fight. It's it's so it's based on Something that was broken. They're like, why are they fighting? Yeah, we don't even know It's like rain and splashing waves the sound of the sabers on metal and again it works All right, man the look the sound The effort from these actors in there like and you it's like all right. We got all those things You said like that you like the raw emotion of the the fights in the sequels and then you just praised all the visual stuff What's the emotion It works as a climax of this conflict between sith and jedi on top of a wreckage of a death star Oh If you would have told me this would be This film before I saw it. I'd be like, there's no way you can't mega contrive this to happen The idea that we're gonna have a battle between a sith protagonist jedi Protagonist on top of a wreckage of the death star in the sequel trilogy. That sounds pretty cool I don't know how it's gonna happen. Sounds pretty cool. You had to tell me that for me to like realize That's what actually is happening here Caloran is not even a sith And she's not really a jedi as far as I'm concerned. That's not really a death star Yeah, none of this is really a movie. This is a really, yeah He has the loose collection of pictures and dialogue that move Says the climax of this conflict between sith and jedi on top of the wreckage of the death star The stretching of the laser giving way to the force I did actually quite like that. I just thought it looked quite cool Um, that's a reason how some people point out though It presents issues in other fights when people get disarmed from their lightsabers in fights. It's like Just not over there could count dooku theoretically use the force Because he doesn't have you don't have to actually have your hands to use the force Yeah, the lightsaber almost seems like a Kind of pointless at that point. Couldn't you just like when anakin? Cut his head off. Dooku's just like With his eyes, I mean you've used the force to turn off the other person's lightsaber You do that's that I mean I mean don't think about it It's like it they they clearly strain to do it and that's why I'd imagine you probably wouldn't see it a lot in a fight Because fights move fast and it's like it's not necessarily something to blow when the swords are going to move faster So maybe it's just it does present You think if these two goofballs are doing it then how come because they're the dyad, right? Oh, yeah, the dyad you can only do it to the other dyad half Belch it's dyad specific That's how they explain all those powers. Yeah, it's like grabbing necklaces and fighting across distances In melee. It's a dyad thing. It's a dyad thing. You wouldn't understand Also, there is a switch where kylo actually becomes more composed again and forces Ray to tire herself out Continuing to prove that on a technical level. She's no matter continuing to prove. No, just no What? Incorrect if you watch this scene as well. She just gives up randomly She just starts to fall over or whatever and you're like, oh, it's oh, it's over now. I guess Continuing to prove on a technical level. She's no bad. She's beaten him so many times. I just don't care anymore Kylo's probably going oh shit. I won. What the fuck? I like the idea of the cinema wins. Thanks that all of the audience is sitting there thinking. Yeah Kylo is better than her. Yeah, that's what we've always assumed. Yes For an actress that didn't film any new scenes for this movie. Leia still gets an impactful moment That's no man. I thought it was the blue line that let it's here Please walk us through that through line. Yeah, I love the through line that let us Leia tells Han not to give up on their son, which leads to his death She then tells luke that she knows he's gone. But luke says no one's ever really don't remind me of that fucking line No one's ever really gone gone and now here we are for her last act one That would believably kill her given that she abandoned her training way, but training doesn't matter. We've established it fucking killed luke to do it So what are you like shouldn't you be possible for her? Or that's the thing. Isn't she just like Reaching out to him like communicating with the fork. She did that in the ot all the time Oh, actually. Yeah, that's a good point Like if you're trying to argue that she shouldn't be able to contact someone via the force because she was She didn't finish her training when she did it before she even had training Makes sense if you don't think about it. Yeah, because it's not. Yeah, that's not what she's not actually doing What luke did in tlj actually is she she's just doing no, he's just having a chat with ben Just like you're right, mate Don't uh, don't kill ray, please So if she can have So but isn't that what palpatine has snoke do to have Ray and kylo communicate across the galaxy? But they can see each other I guess Oh, okay, so if you want to add video to the call it takes a lot more training There's more bandwidth, so yeah more force width His force projection killed him I can't like quantifiably prove it, but it seems commensurate, but just her one word snaps ben out of being kylo Just though it does is distract him so that ray can fucking knife him right in the gut And I understand why it would seem not like an act of love because Dude, I love that assessment I can see how you wouldn't see it as an act of love Oh my god But that wasn't lay as goal she couldn't have predicted ray's actions She just wanted her son to predict ben's actions but not ray's, huh? Well, yeah, she's super powerful Sometimes Like here for some reason this is such stupid justification She just wanted her son to feel her presence one last time And make sure he didn't kill ray like So she knew what he was gonna do, but she didn't know what ray was gonna do Yeah, like she must have been aware of the situation To to know that she needed to intervene at this moment. Also the way they portray it She's dying before she decides to do this anyway It's a summary with carry fisher in this you're kind of like so like she's always on the verge of dying To feel her presence one last time and make sure he didn't kill ray She was a weakness for him in the last jedi and before this fight He confessed that he thought he could never go home. He can't go back to an hour I'm good to elbow that I don't know what for Like just wanted to feel her presence one last time. I have no idea. I wanted to feel my mommy one most Yep from now on chat I require that if you want me to gdell something you need to put gdell dash And then what you think I should put it to gdell because sometimes I have no idea what I could possibly do This is just such a sometimes these videos are really dense with possibilities And bring them back dude. She healed the face wound. She gave him in the force of wakens, too Okay, he'll discuss I guess. Yeah, all right. I'm more concerned about the fact that she could do this But all right Also, finally giving chewy a moment to grieve. He's the last of the old guard human at least wait, chewy's not Sad as hell like all this By these It's the only time in the movie I actually felt sad Yeah, and it's not necessarily because the movie's events It just makes me think About this character who is at the end of return of the jedi And he's had to watch all of his friends get killed for no reason after they get it like ruined And he's just fucking at his wit's end now. He's just like that's all three of them now. Thanks Who's next? All right, there's no one left Hooray My son is alive. Oh something there you go. That's a fair Someone said I can you could see how I can see how someone wouldn't interpret this as an act of love And then the visual is just someone getting killed I can see how this wouldn't be an act of love and you just show someone being shot by Oh dear Also, can you imagine like if lay had contacted him at any other time? Like if kyle rin was just sitting on the toilet and Yeah, she called her And she dies for that he's just like Oh Already like shorts like a bit of force lightning because she startled him Yeah Can he use the force to make his poop appear With ray, can he like you force project his poop onto ray? I don't see why not All right. Yeah, all right case closed Hard human at least wait chewie's not human. Hey kid. Kylo Ren is dead. My son is alive He didn't even get shamed And one last time with han panda to me jj and do even your own plot points I don't know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it You know, I'm kidding. I love this scene if you've been paying attention You know that kyle ron obviously isn't a force If you don't do this to me If you've been paying attention, no, uh It's not that's We we We thought he might have been a force ghost not because Because these movies are so shit and incompetently done story-wise That we didn't we couldn't discount the possibility that they just fucked up It didn't apply the right effects If someone said you sure he wasn't just a force goes with the wrong effects I'd be like, I'm not sure of that I know for sure It would at least make kylo look like less of a douchebag If he's just imagining this whole thing and his dad tells him that everything's fine and he forgives him Which is a nice person So backwards, it's weird And solo is finally seeing kylo ren's final confrontation with his dad from ben's perspective Han's last act was to touch his son's face in an act of love and forgiveness This is ben finally realizing what all that meant that han didn't get tricked into this. He expected it and it didn't matter Wait, he expected to be killed. Is that what you're saying? I think that is in the films. I think that han knew he was gonna die basically I don't know what else that he thought was gonna happen. He went on top of that platform Well, I can tell you what he thought was gonna happen. He says it. He wants him to come home with him Maybe I don't know if that like do you think that that would work? It's such a I'm sorry. No, I've never heard of this before. There's the theory is han knew he was gonna die Why is he shocked when he gets killed? Yeah, he looks really surprised Oh, I've What would it achieve for him to just get killed? Yeah, why would that be something to leave? Yeah, like come back in a different way and find a better way to help ben I don't know. I have no idea My assessment always was the han was like leah told me to not give up on my son and to try my best And he was like come home with us. It's not too late. We love you. Boom. I'm dead. Oh, fuck you are a piece of shit That's that's how I always read that scene For leah, it's clear like he didn't want to do that. He he only did it after she said it So yeah kind of encourage me. Well, this is why I see it. It is really sad It's like maskin otter. It's like go see leah the leah It's like go get your son back and then the son kills him. It was like han should have just stayed out smuggling badly boomerang He'd do anything to reach his son and even after leah was shaken. She chose the same It's an unconditional love that parents have for their children And it's the antithesis of the relationships that sith masters have with their apprentices Kylo could see that I don't want people to love me unconditionally I feel that makes the love really kind of pointless and almost worthless If there's nothing I could do that will make them not love me that no matter how terrible and horrible I am as a person no matter what crime or atrocity I commit No matter what my attitude is or my feelings towards them if they still love me the same regardless of that That seems Like really kind of shitty I kind of feel like love is something that you earn and that it's something that is kind of a two-way street Yeah, it'd be preferable that they love something about you your qualities your Your choices your the things that you do as a person who you are but uh Yeah, parents will have unconditional love typically for the children. I don't see that uh What is it exactly is this point that kylo is so used to Having a dick for a master that once both of his parents died to say hey, we love you It turned him back to being a good man Order way of putting it. He's gonna drag this out and make it seem more poetic, but yeah, that's pretty much He was lost to the dark side it took death and more sacrifice to bring ben solo back This isn't meant to be as complicated as i've seen people make it It's not supposed to be as complicated as people make it seem nobody understands what the fuck is happening in this scene Everybody has a different interpretation. They're like, oh leah possessed ben To prevent him from killing ray ray killed leah. That's the favorite one. I think that everybody should go with because that's hilarious Then you go leah is hard. I've seen people say that she's the one who like summoned him She's like controlling this to make it feel better or um, she actually like showed up She was like a few meters back was like hey ben that he turned around. He was like, oh, shit And then she disappeared because that's all she could do But or she was like, oh shit when the lightsaber goes through him She was like, oh, i'm sorry. I'll come back when you're done. Yeah I was like, oh, whoops. Oh, I fucked this one up Yeah, so loads of like I know that i'm pretty sure when we discussed it like post having seen the movie We were all just like i'm not entirely sure of what this was like 100 percent It was really weird the way the editing was and it I It was just confusing It just it reeks of like the script needed a bunch of different things to happen At this point in the movie. It's like we've run out of footage to use of kerry fischer So we need player to die. We need ben to start his turn back to the light side and we need Ray to part company with him so she can go off and do her thing And we need to like him to potentially win a fight So he's still somewhat of a viable antagonist at that point and then ray to beat him after all So it's like what's the easiest way to make all that stuff happen. Fuck it. This is all we've got So apparently it was quick at this time, but we've already been knocked off the uh This the the subscription fee to this stream. Oh boy. Awesome Yeah, love is ben's motivation from here on out His dad showed him love in the force awakens his mom did here and now that the blinders have been lifted He realizes there's only one person left who loves him. Wow all of these people have wronged him and this is insane Like why does ray love him? What does love even mean at this point? Like you have it's just a word now It's just a word that you throw around It doesn't have any Substance attached to it anymore Why why does ray love him? Why? There's no reason. There's no connection between these two. She loves bad boys I just I hate that because remember major lee was like, yep, there's something going on between them. It's like why When did this come is it literally just basing on the fact that hey humans they can hook up Why not these two? Yeah, why not? Okay We're gonna go help ray. He always wanted to defeat the emperor anyway, but that's clearly no longer his motive What do you mean? He always wanted to defeat the emperor. He didn't even know he was alive Always wanted this ever since the first scene of this movie, which was the third in the trilogy. What? Evasion he wants to save ray even if it kills him For this Oh Adam driver can get an Oscar for a lot of other things. Okay. Yeah Amazing a marriage story. Mm-hmm Let's also acknowledge that one line from Han lets us know what that dad from ben really meant I know and leaving the I love you on said actually adds even more weight to the time He said it's a lie. I mean, this is one of those they try to make it work here by using some past thing It all it's everything about this is so manufactured and disingenuous. Yeah Yeah I mean, you're mostly just annoys me. I think it's the whole how day you stand where he stood shit Get away from the world stuff Something vented lost to the dark side As I served you in the old wars I serve you now. Honestly. I enjoy pride so much. I actually went back to check if he was in the ot as a young man What Richard E grunt or the character of pride I Assume they threw that line in there to make us feel like oh, that's why he's so motivated to help the emperor I guess because he always was which doesn't really answer anything, but okay It's pretty clear that this point. It's just safe to assume. They just make shit up Yeah, just just manufacture connections to the ot He just feels like he belongs in those movies. I need you in community. Well, this droid has. Thank you taking the time to be Thankful general Okay So you would have blew up the tree with force lightning Luke projected himself across the galaxy and now Luke catches the lightsaber We know that octu is an important place for the force. Oh, here we go excuses. Hey, it's a force place That's why they could do all these powers It's all it all makes sense. You can only use it on the island. That's the thing What about the Jedi example? I was reading into this and apparently there might be precedent for this in like the clone wars in some of the EU I I think they refer to um Anakin said of the prequel trilogy is like a virgins in the force the idea that there are like Certain concentrations will run certain places. So it's like that's that's why he was so unusual because a virgins is normally a place But for him in his case it was centered on him So like this physical body This could hold a little bit of water But like my trouble is that like there's no Reference for this in any of the films. You just have to go on assumption. You're like, um force place That's that's why he can't go up to the emperor because like obviously he can catch the lightsaber So it's like can he turn it on and then can he go up to the emperor and kill him? It's like we'll know because it's you can't he can't leave just you can only do it on the island. So I mean there's a little bit of reference to it in the original trilogy like um when ben dies. I don't know obi-wan kenobi dies uh you can only talk to loop through like Interspersed like bits of voice and then he appears on hoth but only for a brief moment But then in return of the jedi and even in the middle of a empire He's basically just standing there as a hologram without any real problem So I guess you could kind of argue that it's location-based So him talking to luke on dega ba dega ba is just another place that's yeah just strong enough for us And all is it Yeah, because well the cave is in dega ba where luke has his vision with beta So I assume that's kind of a unique location Well, I mean only to luke though and that could have been anywhere. It didn't have to be on dega ba That was just wherever that that would have been wherever yoda would have been Yeah, I thought there was something about that that particular cave I thought there was something yeah, particularly strong about it like the force was strong there That's why you had to go in there specifically to have that vision can the force be Man, I'm mostly okay with that. I'm more just at the point of being like I don't think they thought this through whatsoever. I think this is all of us trying to work this as best we can Yeah, I think they did this up after the fact and I think it's embarrassing that we can make this storyline where they They lure the fucking first order to arc 2 and thus all of the old force ghosts can now attack them with lightning That's fucking ridiculous to me So yoda went specifically to dega ba because there was the magic cave there Or is it just coincidental that yoda had been to flee To dega ba to go to the magic cave. If so, that doesn't make sense. You think they checked there I assume that the magic or yeah, the magic cave is like a vergence of the force and that's He knew about it and that's why he went there because Whatever really maybe he knew luke was going to show up sometime. I don't know Seriously, this is the whole thing. They didn't think this stuff out. Why did yoda use lightning because it's funny Why did luke catch the lightsaber because it it it it gives the middle finger to ryan shonston for him throwing away the lightsaber That's the reason that they did it wasn't because this place is a vergence or they thought that through They just they just wanted their emotional payoffs. So we got him in the form saying the cave is extended universe Yeah, someone said it masked his presence on the planet Wouldn't the strong but wouldn't that do the opposite if it was a really strong force sensitive place? Um, it's like it's strong with the dark side, which is why it supposedly cancels it out. I guess I don't know Because all these retards and shows regs clearly don't know star wars. It's like no one fucking knows star wars at this point We're trying to make this shit up as we go But yeah, like that's what we're doing right now is Trying to figure out ways this can make sense in the fourth series of the book about yoda's magic daiguba adventures You clearly don't know star wars I can confirm the regs is not red yoga yodas yodas the yogurt's adventures on swamp yoga bill It was only in the the paperback release They had to edit it out of the hardback copy that was released three months later and it only sold in milwauki So you had to read that version to get the the special daiguba cave lore Are we supposed to assume then that that hoth is is only relatively strong with the force? Yeah, because he appeared in a cave on hoth Well, so when give me the extended universe version of the tauntaun cave on hoth Is that strong in the light side or the dark side or is it strong in the force at all or give me the backstory on that cave? End or two like like um, oh, yeah All of them do it's like yoda died recently. So it's like no, we got the death star where obi one speaks to luke Yeah, but the death star is force sensitive because it's like a reason and so is the other place to Trouble like it. There's not enough mechanical references like the films don't address this in any way. So if we if we make this up I was fine with the force goes just turning up whenever they wanted wherever they wanted whatever But i'm when when you can have them doing things that massively impact real life Your excuses are it was just this island. It's like oh fuck off He says it stands to reason and then he ends this with a question mark. It's like You're just you're just making this up. So it's like Yeah, it stands to reason which is why you're asking us It stands to reason in the film It's in the clone wars you fools I've not seen it. I don't I've heard it fits all right I don't know that they bring i've heard there's stuff that it introduces Which is god doesn't fit in it well at all and some other stuff Rebels is the one that everyone doesn't like right No Or people who said like force projection was in that like the the stuff luke does at the end of the last jet I like that whole thing was done by like yoda or someone instead of instead of rebels and it's like, okay Sure, I don't know. I haven't seen any of them. So I I I can't reference it So it stands to reason strong force location strong force ghost powers China's weapon deserves more respect But that's not even strong force powers like it's not um a matter of it's like Instead of being able to do some minor things yoda can now cast lightning. It's like no It's kind of binary. It's the fact that he can do anything at all Yeah, that's that's a big deal. We have crossed the line Yeah, they are now physical objects that exist in very real space I can cast lightning and hit people on the head The only thing they do in the ot is they talk to people They will only talk to people and give people advice people say him like phasing Going through the grass counts as touching things are sitting on the log It's like you gotta be kidding me. That's just it's just a representation of a form. It's not them physically Like they can't punch people in the ot Even though I was hard on mark hamill in my last Jedi video, honestly I love that he gets this moment I understand that playing a character and building up who he is in your own mind to have it Undone with something you think outside the realm Well So it's like we didn't have to build up anything in our minds We just watched the movies and we know who he was No, that's just really more your head canon. It's not really what's there That's just details Mixed up the ability for that character. I still don't know the record. It would be hard I won't begrudge him one last snarky comment Yoda has always had an outside the box approached all things force related as he Luke does too uh Because Yoda seems to play by the rules in terms of the prequels as far as I can remember What um, what is he referring to that Luke is playing outside of the box with? anyone I I'm thinking You got me all right Because remember when yoke when anakin was going to get trained the council Said it was okay, but yoda was against it. Hmm So yoda was kind of the one playing by the rule And the council had essentially said, uh, even though he's too old. Yeah, sure. Why not? Probably because of quite gone's death as well. I'm lucky different reasons throughout I'm never leaving this place. I'm doing what you did. I was wrong Hey Please don't tell me how this is. Okay, please don't start on me on how that is a contradiction Luke realized he was wrong at the end of the last Jedi Um I'm saying wrong So at the end of the last jet I will not be the last Jedi So that that's not him saying I was wrong first Secondly his whole reasoning for going to the island in uh TLJ was to Like what he wanted to just die because he cut out cut himself off from the forest So he went to a super force sensitive location to do that. Yeah, that's Like super can do something if you put it straight up to your head and then press the button if you want to die in my front Well, he's in an x-wing to get there he could have just crashed it into the island There's so many ways you can come That's actually very true Why would he go to that place when it's like the ultimate jedi hotspot? Like why would you do that or force hotspot? He hasn't read them. It's like Luke. What are you doing? Like Why are you here? Why are you drinking milk and sustaining yourself if you just want to die? Oh, I think you would you would read those books just out of sheer boredom if nothing else Yeah, like what what else does he do to entertain himself, man? Like you get bored beyond belief being a free place chess with the nuns. Do you not do that? Come on play chess with the nuns. Yep the fish nuns Oh, yeah And that that that milk is not the only bodily fluid he gets from those sea caves So so they come on it. Yeah, that was yeah Oh shit. Oh shit Like really liquidy shit So he's he's saying that like if we're trying to be really generous here So we can figure out whether or not this is TROS shitting on TLJ in TLJ. He's like It's your failure that you could learn from is what Yoda basically tells him That's what gets him to do something finally. Luke doesn't even leave the island. So I don't know that he considers going to the island Being something that was wrong in TLJ, but he certainly does in TROS because we all do as fans consider that a fucking huge mistake So, um, I don't know. I guess the the point he's trying to make is like no, this is in line with TLJ It's not making fun of it. I'd be like, oh Well the If you wanted to deliver that message as the writer creator of TROS, you'd probably have him break that down You'd be like When I came to this island like I had you know, I did it for these reasons But I realized the you know through a lot of introspection and meeting you that the real reason you wouldn't just have him go. I was wrong I feel like that's just a slap to TLJ Yeah, just like the whole Jedi's weapon deserves more respect thing. That was just Yeah TLJ is like you can try and Uh, twist them to be like, no man, this is totally a lie. This is totally respectful But it's like the why did everybody receive it as though it was a slap to Ryan's face. Why do you think that why do you think it came across that way? Both Luke and Leia's faces were just scenes from Return of the Jedi and Carrie Fisher's daughter is standing in as her mother's body double, which sort of makes me want to just go soft for a little bit They look like they did in the old movies thing And and actress was Child of previous actress thing the last night of her training There's something more than nostalgic about this scene probably especially since we didn't know about it until now Yeah, and how Leia's kicking Luke's ass because Luke is shit. How is this nostalgic though? Just because we just we get to see them young Oh, okay They're still calm and collected enough to be nostalgic. You see how they're calm and collected in this scene Yeah, it seemed like the the opposite of that also the yeah, as you said, it's just funny that Leia's defeating Luke. You're like, oh Okay, that's yeah, we get it. Lucas shit. We get it. You hate Luke. Lucas shit. Luke is awful. We get it Everyone's better than Luke looks like the middle of a storm yet. They're still calm and collected It's quick, ethereal otherworldly and I had watched an entire series about Luke training life. Oh, what I wouldn't Not from Disney Luke just getting his ass kicked Five passes God, that's I feel like I'm I'm inviting to be fucking hit by a bot with that music Careful, I might just mute it I've been keeping my cool here for the most part, but this got me in theaters Getting to see Luke not try but do doing the very thing he believed was impossible and the reason he failed all Look at this. Look at the top. Don't jump all over me about this one. I've written a straightforward, but lengthy explanation He knows he's gonna piss everyone off because it's like this is not this is not suitable It's when just just the idea that he's like he thought this was impossible It's like that was the shit that he actually overcame in those movies not this one Why he had that disclaimer man He has to throw up these little shields and these little word things because he knows this is not good argumentation. It's I said it, but I don't really mean it, but I sort of do but not really But check this asterisk and I wrote this lengthy description of a thing Something all set to the same yoda and the force score one of my favorites from If it's a song you like Our wars and again We need to post some hold on maneuvers. I'm sorry powerful light powerful darkness. What what was that? I can't it kind of just sort of my brain was sort of an off mode. I'm just gonna play that again. I don't All set to the same yoda and the force score one of my favorites from all of star wars and again And again powerful light power what what is he saying? I don't even how does that remember that from toji He was he was it was uh training. He's like she she notices like there's dark side presence on there And he says powerful light power for darkness I'm just I'm still lost on what's that got to do with him lifting the x-wing for ray Yeah, I'm not making a connection. Well, um Ray is powerful darkness. So he's become more powerful with the light so he can He uses force light on the x-wing to make it lighter therefore easier to lift Powerful lightness. It's a force power you use I'm I don't know the fuck. I'm just lost make sense. Hold on maneuver. Come on that move is one in a million Okay, that one's a little extra winky at the audience Nope, that's a direct little message to the audience saying hey, sorry about fucking everything up, but uh, we're undoing that This is definitely not a wink. This is a oh god. Please forget that was a fucking thing that happened. This is the funny thing um Once tlj did that all you can do is now either break the universe or break tlj and this film shows to break tlj Which is cool. I think that's the smart thing to do Basically the holder did something that's one in a fucking million It's like, oh that makes that scene better. But who cares now everything's back to normal in the other space fights He literally said that in his last jive video, right? He said maybe the stars aligned and it was like it was a one in a million shot He literally said exactly what he went. It can't be that's ridiculous. Did you see all of the first order? They were terrified. Why would you be terrified of someone that's going to pull off some of this one in a million? The factors that can go wrong. It's like it could it is literally in a vacuum She turns around and she pushes the button. That's all there is to it. There's nothing Yeah I'm trying to like I'm trying to picture You know like a football field one person's on one end the other person the other and like they throw a golf ball at them It's like that's probably not one in a million. I don't even know what the odds are there But just what's the odds of you running away when you know that they've thrown it Like I don't even know that you're gonna reach me. I don't think that's Probably like what are you doing? Oh, I can't quite make you out all the way over there. Are you throwing your golf ball? That's kind of odd what you're doing over there. That's strange. At least you didn't do anything dangerous to me, I suppose Universe is unbroken now. Why would you put broken in quotes because as far as he's concerned it wasn't broken But it totally was It's a lot of these in quotes. It's all just quotation broken The visualization of the emperor's temple is the visualization. Do you just mean the design of it? Yeah, the look is that it The visualization The structure is He's talking another why wing or a another member berries win just the y-wings like really quickly Oh, yeah, we skipped over that y-wings are cool by the way guys We actually agree with this y-wings are cool. They should have kept them in TLJ They were a lot more useful than bombers probably. Yes Lickify all the snokes Holy shit, we skipped over a lot, but okay. Oh, wow. Yeah Ah classic star wars misdirection What are you talking about? I'm trying to think like like honest question. What do we refer you to with star wars misdirection? That they were using speeders No, I mean like outside of this one. What are some classic stowels misdirections? um the The haun haun hiding I guess like is is maneuver went in empire strikes back with Hiding and then the junk thing. Maybe are we being misdirected on that though? Or we just we just told them what's happening Yeah, they were misdirected. I guess they did they thought he had a cloaking device I guess I don't know Someone said that's no moon. Is it I guess I guess it's that misdirection like oh classic star wars misdirection I because I know when I watched that I was like, oh look that is a moon You know, I was right there with obi-wan and then they pulled the switcheroo No, it's a it's a fucking death star. Oh Yeah, I feel like I feel like that one was just delivered to us With the characters, we're just like that is a moon question mark. Oh, it's not a moon. Okay I don't know. This is It's a weird one, but all right Wait, are they in space? No, no, no Poe did say the ships couldn't escape at moe a couple times Okay, yeah, you can still be in atmosphere and not be able to fucking breathe because he is so thin Yeah, the address for people's problem is which is why they don't just tilt the ship sideways and this is what I mean It's like, I don't know My my plan is to Blow up a house with a with a matchstick and he's like matchsticks do actually lead to fire and then he leaves that and I'm like, what? There's other issues to this I don't care that it can make fire. That's the what the fuck Feel like you've ignored all of the bigger parts of this. You're like, no make sense. Bye. You're like, okay Holy shit, that's loud It's entering this last battle on the main destroyer with a ground fight in the aerial battle in the background actually makes it less chaotic Oh, does it? If he says so I don't know is it just me or does ben run like a hero now? It's you. It's you I'm sorry. Wait, can someone name me one of the time ben has run in this whole set of movies And at uh luke when he tried to slice him in half Yeah, I was gonna say I don't remember him running like a villain to that scene Like evil run like I I have no the only difference now is he's unarmed like every other time he's been running he's been armed with his lightsaber So lightsabers are evil is what you're saying Yeah Fundamentally This character is now running Like a hero This is this is a win For they were running like a boy. No a villain. They're going But now he's a hero. He's I mean he got his I haven't even What does it mean to run like a hero anyway? What does he mean? Like well, if i'm being honest now, is he saying like he's He's lighter somehow. Okay You're a heavy Someone's running you could tell are they a good man or a bad man? You could tell by the stride That's a bad run. You've got there Oh that evil run He watch out for that. Well, I don't know where he's going but when he gets there He's gonna do some bad good shout brandon. He said the t1000. That's an evil run. Yes. That is an evil run That is a very just staring at you as he sprints That's an evil run. We can do it. It's like he's going to later somehow Kind of has a heroic run with like the way he runs with agency. There's I a little bit. It's just flimsy Poor scum has a good run He does I just like been so With this with this I guess this is post massacres. So Yeah Jesus so much wrong with this. So That's his last line as we have all been made aware, which is fucking hilarious Secondly, he's not a funny character. That's never been his thing This is so cool and malicious and yeah stupid. Yeah, but now he's a hero and heroes are funny. So He fell and said ouch Tell they're trying to like push that he's like his dad now. He's like he's taken on that mantle He's like he's he does the whole like Dead beat dad the dad that gave him remember Just to go back a little bit as well One of his wins was that he really liked the visual design of the temple like the sith temple And I really don't understand why because I can't even see what the fuck i'm looking at when I see that thing It's just like darkness with like a little sliver of white line in between. It's a giant What is that even going to be it's a giant cube that floats over the floor for some reason And then you go underground and you see all this shit Yeah, like there's no sense of like how this thing even works or where you go when you get into the bit That's not just a thin white line. You cannot make sense of the dark side The dark side leads to many Stars I have often have shared So many strange geometrical designs that some might find question of being true That's just like Benzolo Also, he gave him a win because he like I don't understand why i'm complaining anymore. No look kill I hate it in both of them. They're both stupid. You have to look when you shoot. Okay. He's not a fucking wizard Fuck you I love this story thread is what? I love this story thread. We've been oh, they put so much work into these characters. Oh, it's so well fleshed out Let's hope Let's let's let's hope he explains this one. I like that We've been building towards these two using their connection to work together for two movies now and What? We haven't been building towards that. I don't know what you mean. Oh Can you tell me like a line or a scene? Look, we said it's the fulfillment of something I couldn't even put into words at first What? Well, we know you're not exactly what one would call a wordsmith But I think you lack references And it's fulfillment of something I couldn't even put into words at first The idea that the connection between the two of them was more powerful than snoke who had no idea What was happening and now the same of palpatine that the diet is something ever they made it up You don't see it often because they fucking made it up. I was gonna say the diet was invented for this film It's not even in the other two And the last Jedi the whole point of that last shot where she closes the doors That's like her supposed to be like severing the connection between them. It's like her abandoning that side of that It's just still going in the next film. Oh, okay It says like clearly it's He often and it's another correction the force is trying to make to bring balance back to the force And I freaking love that okay, it doesn't even make sense They would have to be occupying the same space in order to transfer it that way Like do you know what I mean? Like in their own stupid little dyad world She would need to be standing where he is in the same sort of position in order to hand off that like how does how does that make He was like And like she hands it off to him and it's like embedded halfway in his skull or something like oh They nod to each other as if they're actually a meter away from let's just be generous They're a meter away from each other looking at each other. She puts it behind her head He reaches behind his head. It's like that's not gonna work. You'd have to pass it to him like forward It could be if you were back to back. Maybe that was advocate like uh, Like technically, how would they even know how did they decide on this plan? Did they speak mentally to each other like she was like, I'm gonna pass this to you I had a feeling he had a feeling that she was gonna teleport her lightsaber through space and time The force does it all the force force force force force It makes sense. It just it just makes sense That's good guy. Adam driver is always a win. I know you're gonna be Adam driver is always a win I know you're gonna be mad at me because so many hate this movie Yeah, a lot of people hate this movie. It's fucking terrible. This movie was like the great unifier I just There's something really funny in the he's like bitter that people are gonna be Disagree with him because they just hate the movie when I'm like, but your arguments have been so bad Like it's not even about the movie being bad anymore You are not convincing me that this is a good movie You're doing a very bad job of it. You're like he shrugs. Oh He made a stupid weird shrug That's dingable. It's so great. It's amazing He mad at me because so many hate this movie and probably hate his turn and loved him It's Kylo Ren, but Ben solo alive. No, I didn't really like Kylo Ren either No, they were fucking annoying Now a showcase of driver's talent between these two disparate characters There's no what what is the difference between Kylo Ren at all That wasn't anything like Han shrug It's totally different Yeah, this this shrug is this shrug is like, yeah, I know it's unfair, but here we are While Hans was like lol With the like has the work on his face. It's it's different weird Whatever they both shrugged. This is good This one this one was this one's like I I actually don't know. I just have this now He's so awkward because he's just this character isn't this this is what I mean like the hip operate this way It's very weird. It's just like uh-huh Mass motor over here is having a having a goof Han shrug he is a solo and nonchalant. Yeah, I'm with her now. Sorry guys. This is the thing we do. I'm glad Yeah, it kind of sucks for them, huh? We uh, uh, Adam driver is a great actor, but this character is awful We all seem to agree. Adam driver is amazing Oh, what what no you can't stop it. What that's done I'm saying good things Just say yep Provide thing. I hate the little one word windings where it's just like you say like honesty or like teamwork or Generosity, it's just this one's even worse because I don't even know what he's celebrated here That kylo held up a defense for an attack that came in like a few seconds later. Why did they continue to do the attack? Why didn't they just adjust where they were aiming? So yeah, just his lightsaber. I think it's further down How did he's dead because it's like that bit where he moonwalks into someone like just he has the most ridiculous fighting style Because they're ghouls. Oh They are cool ghouls. They're they're not very intelligent Fucking ghouls. So they're they're not even fighting with lightsabers. Are they they've just got like bladed weapons Yeah, for some reason they actually clash with lightsabers though Like they spark off them and stuff and I'm like, but they just look like they made of metal or something Maybe they're super duper durasteel Unobtainium Oh my god. Oh, hey, we finally got the answer. There you go guys, but holy um Hero run Naruto run Get all skeletal showing us the evil run. What a stupid one Doesn't seem too efficient For olds out there who think that's cool Totally is Rex. You don't know you do not know And no, sorry, I'm not surprised that the actual sith slash Jedi whatever he is now The only force powerful warrior using a lightsaber made quick work of his He had the Stop it. Just stop. Okay. He had a fucking blaster that disappeared for this scene for no reason He still had the force against a bunch of people who can't use the force for some reason He couldn't even win with that like used it. Yeah, why not just Disappeared like the fucking blaster did and then once he gets a lightsaber He's able to defeat all of them. It's like why couldn't he just just don't you like there are no lines between them And any of this is like, dude, you're gonna kill your knights just like this. You're like Nothing, there's nothing between you guys now. It's because JJ was like, I'm not gonna lie. These aren't characters He's like, yeah, we do. Yeah, they're just blocks that move around They probably all have names Edward Could you imagine how gray it would be if he killed all of them except one? Yeah, like one of them is called edward and he's like edward. I'm sorry And he's like you betrayed everything you believe in kylo We're like, whoa, whoa, it's like a character. Holy shit No, he's like edward. You were the only one who was ever nice to me Edwin was a great character It was great. I'm so sad that Edward didn't make it. Edward red Edward ran poor Ed Ed that's what they'd call him. Eddie red All ed good. All edward ran. Oh man, my favorite good. All you are We're just like guys with cool weapons and masks And palpy you must have downgraded your petorians because none of these ones have been able to disappear Oh Get it Apparently they yeah, they have this fight twice. I guess I was going to say Such an eviscerator this one Yeah, I praise the hell out of the the partying guard fight inside of my last video and I said it was amazing Even though it sucks. I know it sucks and I know about all this, but you know fun anyway I'll just make a heart light of it. So Oh this video So What do you mean it comes again comes across as bitter It's like he's upset people are complaining about really valid things. He's like stop it What if people not like everything? In their hand, I guess the gladus arm was the tradeoff Reference to gladus is okay. Oh, this is a win too. Yep. They both have lightsaber as well. Whoa Okay Oh look and so he's almost responding to us We're sitting here like unimpressed and he goes get out of here with your cold dead heart It's like no no reasonable heart. My heart is fine. Your heart is overloading. It's it's just it's just exploding It's going nuts standards. You're gonna have to earn my interest in affection You're have to you have to earn emotions out of me. I can't just spontaneously generate them Look at this as well. This is all that star wars is light versus dark. That's it. It's not like not family connections It's not legacy. It's not moral struggles. It's not adventure. None of that is just light versus dark Yeah, and it's like again, it's the same thing he did with the tie fighter thing where it's like it's downplaying Something significant. He's he's simplifying everything. He's just saying it's all just about good versus evil It's like what isn't about good versus evil? What's story? Simplified down to its bearish form. Isn't that you can do that with anything? Come on rip a catfish. That movie doesn't completely break reality. Ding I thought that you could even give that no, no you can't Yeah, it's just funny because he sees all of us as these cold dead husks that are making fun of media Where we should be enjoying it that sort of thing when just you just all you do is reflect it back It's like no, I feel like I'm having a very reasonable Normal response to this and that you're going nuts because it's got all your star wars favorite visuals in it It's got the music. It's got the sound effects. It's got the lights. It was got the spaceships Like thank fuck And it's so easy to just point to like instances where it actually worked Like to point to the ot and say look this see this this is when movies were good This is when star wars movies were actually like captivating and had some kind of emotional connection That's not what this is. This is just garbage. Mm-hmm Oh, well, this is all star wars is light versus dark. That's it I gotta be honest man, like he just does that to them and it's it's such a just like oh All right. Yeah, I guess he just sucks. Okay. Sure. Because you're right You know, I'd be at the point maybe where you see luke and vader fine You know like can either of them just like overpower the other with the force like I don't know Maybe maybe not but either way they're fine with this or you can't really know for sure And if one was to try maybe one could deflect it Who knows these two are like, uh, we got you now palps and palps is like nah, I got you And then later on ray is like nah, I got you But it's just like okay. I don't really I'm not following any of this I don't know. Is there any rules here like anyone could just be anyone Trouble with this ending man. It's all power based. It's all just like I have power I have power to you. I have two lightsaber. Whoa That's that's yeah, there's no characters. There's yeah, it's no it's not big characters making decisions anymore The same as we went over with the lightsaber duel. It's like what's the personal stakes in this ending fight? It's like there's none. It's all just power levels Which is weak as hell It's power levels. We don't understand at least because you can do it with power levels They can pull that off it's different story. It's it depends But not here because they don't explain anything It's the worst part about the final order was the Resistance rebels or republic whatever. Oh my god. What a perfect summary of this the disney trilogy resistance rebels republic whatever We don't even know It's like seriously disney must look at this video and be like it's working exactly we want to work You're like going resistance disney. It's awesome. Cool. It's like this is exactly the reaction that freaking disney wants They just want they just want you to look at it and like think it's really neat and really cool It's like that's what I haven't been the call and be like so who are these people? He's like good guys uh-huh this guy Enders a man and like what he thinks about because apparent like I said apparently he agrees with the idea of objective film criticism So I I would be fascinated to talk to this guy about like his standards because I don't know I can't get a gauge in his video. Did he also not say that it doesn't matter? Did he also not say it doesn't matter remember Yeah, he said like it every movie will fall apart. So it's it that's the thing I don't I have no idea what he what he thinks about all this. It's just it's all over the place It's like almost every ship that's ever starboard in there Poor wedge just does not get a break. Let the man retire That they bring him back, but then you would give them a win if they'd had him retire You just gave them a win for that. That's why he's there This is such a oroboros to me Cinema wins just like star wars and then disney just constantly shitting out star wars for him to eat Thank goodness cinema wins He's this is the thing cinema was like be courageous be honest about loving this movie and then we're all like Yeah, why do you love this movie? What the hell is the reasoning I'm curious You can look in his comment section man his his audience eats this up They love these type of videos because they tell them what they want to hear They just want someone to hear this positivity and be like it's really nice. He's really cool. It's like it works, man He's got an audience for You want me to condel the fact that he said republic rebels resistance, whatever You should you should get delved to get out of here with your cold dead heart that that's like that's a That's it Light versus dark. That's it all sport is light versus dark He was amazing having a cold dead heart My heart is fine. It's it's it's crawling along the floor dying sure, but it's still there. It's bleeding out, but It's making it a hard to the standards. It doesn't just clap at everything. It's not cheap I don't even know how to Because contextually this doesn't even sound like it's an issue. It's in this video It's so stupid the whole like he doesn't know who the good guys even are like, how do I even how do I even put that fourth in In a gadel quote? How does that even make? Because you know, I feel like this character is now running like a hero that that actually works no matter what It's just really stupid. But me being like republic rebels resistance, whatever play Does that even sound like people gonna be like what even is that referencing? I don't know why wing does something too Yeah, well, of course it does. They are effective It's fucking weird that they can just shoot it a couple times and the whole thing blows up Well, yeah, this is where I mean my head was like there's too many flaws at once So I was like, okay, so you're acknowledging then that it's a floor in tlj that they're not there Question mark because I'm assuming he'd be the kind of person to be like no, that's fine because reasons Secondly, they don't even use the the bombs on the y-wing It's just delays at the basically this because it seems to be that as they explain as long as you blow up the non shielded cannons of these ships All of them just explode. Well the big ship explodes, which is insane I think they have shields on the parts And so I saw even powered up like this thing is just an inert weapon at that point Like it's not like there's a huge electric, you know power charge inside it that you're going to rupture and then that's Going to cause it to blow up You think that being inside the ship or something they wouldn't just be dangling down at the bottom as an instant free kill Yeah, like It makes me think of the the spacecraft from independence day when it's like, okay You can shoot into the laser thing when it's just about to fire because it's brimming with energy That's about to be unleashed. Okay, fine But in this case, it's like no if you just hit that cannon at any point no matter what it's doing It's going to destroy the entire ship It's it's like the dumbest design you could ask for It's a there's a color that we all have highlighted I'm guessing from this video does read about it, but it says the vast majority enjoyed this movie It has 86 on audience score on ron tomatoes. Oh, yeah, we definitely believe that. Yep That's how we know definitely. Yeah. Oh, yep. We know it. Is that Russian bots or anything? It definitely, uh, yeah So that's all the tlj one. That's fake. We can't trust the tlj one, but this one we can definitely trust this Wasn't it like at 2000? Reviews all the way up to like 80,000 reviews. It had 86 like as far as I know, it's like always had 86 Yeah Like as it scaled up it always had 86 since like the first day I'm gonna check it now Uh, I like this beat in the head It's sitting at 86 right now. Sure enough All right sci-fi action movie that proudly waves its spiritual and religious flag in its approach to a good versus evil storyline As it was in the beginning and forever shall be All right. Oh bob chippin's there Okay, Daisy Ridley and adam driver have both honed their individual characters and chemistry to a very strong place And their scenes together are easily the strongest in the film eight out of ten March 22nd 2020, huh? Cinema wins you um Look, I'm not gonna look a gift about who's rigging the mouth, but you're bringing him into a battle Oh This is something that you're going to point out. Okay. This is what I mean pick your battles, dude Look, why would you even bring that up? You're supposed to be doing a wind counter Because I agree. It is fucking weird to bring babu frick into this battle. Why? but I don't even establish it Like that. He's just he just someone who's like worked on in c-3po Just some guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just a guy Just a guy sensitive Worst part about the final order was the demand choice. Okay. Yeah We're at 23.05 now. I was gonna say we went back. I don't know if anyone did that on purpose Republic whatever. It's like almost every ship that's ever star ward in there. Let's fly lando A poor wedge just does not get a break. Let the man retire. He can't because he took away his happy ending And you made three more movies about how the galaxy's gone to even more shit now He had his retirement. I don't know why wing does something too Look, I'm not going to look a gift babu frick in the mouth, but you're bringing him into a battle Yeah, I'll allow it. I'm sure he's poor sensitive And if you're wondering how zori got off kajimi without that token There's no confusion. I'll be sound design. Whoa. Whoa. Why did it skip? Nothing was stopping her or anyone from leaving just from going to the colonies What whatever like the idea that she could get off that planet fine, I don't whatever It's not like I was under the impression that she was locked down on it or something I just think it's retarded that she gave away that coin Especially when she was about to kill po, you know moments earlier, but whatever All right sound design It doesn't come out anything special to me Well, this is what I mean like I'm so numb to Accurate sounds that like I just I don't know the like what's a film with really bad sound design That's like mainstream and high budget. Yeah How do we even have a context for this like what does lightning sound like in The sort of semi vacuum of an alien planet's atmosphere Surrendered by star destroyers like we don't know Mine, I guess But that's all he's got to say though. You could picture him watching the film being like, what can I do? sound design Like yeah, it sounds fine Seeing where Palpatine has like insanely op lightning that he did not have in the ot and he has accurate aim to hit Just the resistance ships and not his own now He has absorbed the dyad magic So he can super force all the bad ships It makes sense What if I make a note just We could delve Bringing up how good the sound design is Whether it makes sense or not I call that Oh, because he used lightning before so This is only just this is just an obvious natural extension of that Persistence, okay. She said the word before All right So she's persistent Because she couldn't do a thing before but now she can Yeah, storytelling. Well, think about it. She's more desperate now than before So whenever Finn yells rey as persistence it gets thumbs up When dang Dang a rune Heard it in force awakens rey's theme has been one of my favorites And it's juxtaposition to the darkness and defeat here makes it stand out in the best possible way So Neat soundtrack. All right. Just categorizing these to make sure that you're barely ever talking about the writing Yeah, all right Anakin kwaigon yoda I'm sorry bring back the balance as I did. What do you mean? What do you mean, Anakin? I clearly didn't Didn't then Fuck you boobie. I have another question as well How is she looking up and just seeing space? Like shouldn't there be star destroyers everywhere and lightning clouds and stuff blowing up. She's looking past that dude. Come on She's You're nitpicking. She's looking past all of it into space Of course She's got a binoculars. Is there really more space as a metaphor? Yeah, it's more of a metaphorical Besides stupid shit like that's happened before in star wars Also, let me now play a clip from you from a different star wars movie and then say This is why what you said is isn't fair because you like other star wars movies. There you go. We did it Um I'm sorry. Like I we haven't even played this yet. Anakin kwaigon yoda canon jarrus ala sakura obi one mace all gone But telling her to rise it just works for me All right It just works. It just ruined shit for me No, it it works. Come on Oh, wow, they got a win for all of those names Oh This is this is some disnoid stuff right here. This whole thing. It's very very disnoid vibes But all telling her to rise it it just works for me The force will be with you Okay Oh, well, yep, that's how that works. I guess that's what they wrote to have happen This is standing on the shoulders of giants Because you're a midget Standing on the shoulders more like hobbling Well, like all those giants were shit. I was the real giant the whole time. This is there's something so like Deeply unpleasant about all this, you know Just taking all of these other characters who are way better than ray way more interesting and just saying Nah, they all just exist to help you You know that they have no stories of their own. It's just all about you It's just so manipulative and like distasteful Yeah, also, yeah Turning on a lightsaber Okay Yep, like five times. This is where we're at So many times I was so cool when this happened is so great He's so cool. She turned on a lightsaber and she looked the camera is so cool. Look the next one is the sound Okay, yeah, it sounds like lightsaber turning on It's so good. I love the sound of the saber flying through the air, but not shown I'm all the jedi That it was kind of funny actually I am all the jedi She just starts on the lightsaber. She's like yeah kills him Oh, this is unbelievable All right I who who who did not like the lap the the rise of skywalker is going to be convinced by this. I don't know He I imagine the thing is for people who didn't like it or to try to convince people and I don't know who would be convinced Who didn't like this film? This is such a bad video. It makes such bad arguments I mean, he's not a lot to work with we can agree on that Oh, yeah Well, this video would not be like he wouldn't have two parts 40 minutes You could make this 10 minutes and you could have valid arguments or you can pad it up with a bunch of yups and you got um In chat says you guys don't need to be so negative about him pointing out scenes that are cool The whole point is that they're not cool from our pov, right? They're not cool at all. They're hollow and shallow He says this thing is cool and we're like so it's not cool because of this this this and he's just like Yeah, basically all we have with this video is stuff that looks and sounds good Yeah, he's not going to provide arguments we can so yeah Yeah, and you might be like well this one way it's like well, he's not only welcome to come on But it's not like he made many arguments in this video at all. He's explained some things here and there That's about it And the the very surface level like for example when he's like, oh Um, can they even survive on the top of that star destroyer? Well, they're in atmosphere because po said they were and it's like dude There's like five other arguments to address about how ridiculous all of that scenario is Yeah, you can't start and then stop like if you're gonna go down this road Yeah, you can't just quit whenever it's convenient. You gotta take it to its conclusion See she's got bolt three. Obviously she has cure three I haven't taken the plastic off the remake yet. I'm really sad And if you felt like this was all unlimited power and flew in the face of luke throwing his saber away I feel the need to remind you that luke had Anakin to bank his life on rey's only got well all the other No, he didn't not not to mention that Ray like argument man Wow, that's bad argument not to mention that rey was told that she kills him He's gonna fucking take over her body and she does it anyway And for people who are like nah deflected the lightning It's like just look at the scene. He stops firing his lightning at her and she continues to fire it at him like for a while Really weird also. Sorry. That's that's that's a that's a that's the irrelevant argument the relevant argument is she deflected it at him It's not like she didn't have a choice. She could fly it wherever she wants And this idea that luke in return of the jedi knew that anakin was gonna save him You know, so he was taking no risks there. It's like nah, it's fine He'll step in and sort of things out when I need him. No, he didn't know that. Yeah, right He was risking everything. Sorry. I should have addressed that as well. So luke wouldn't have If luke was told through some magical wizard inside his head that anakin's not gonna save you It's not like luke would go. Oh, uh, I'll turn to the dark side then He was like, no, he's gonna he'll die for his choice. That's kind of the point It doesn't matter if anakin will save him or not but I guess He's saying uh, that's why he did it because he knew how to get would get him. He's banking on it. It's like, okay So what we need to take from this is rey is more courageous than luke and brave And also they just wrote it crazily After the fact to have like, oh, yeah rey has all the jedi magically through the force to save her So ha there luke literally begs vader to help. Yeah, he wants him to help but like This is the thing. He's not going to turn to the dark side just because his dad won't help him I believed in his dad, but it's like he didn't know that it's just But she doesn't actually attack. She only deflects the emperor's lightning back at him. No She she don't do this to me. This is the fucking stupid shit. Like there's all these different ways I can deflect and I choose to put it right in his fucking face when he's disintegrating and it doesn't count as me killing him That's ridiculous. I fucking refuse It's not like so if I throw a grenade at rags and he ducks to avoid it It hits a wall and bounces back into my face and kills me That's one thing but if rags catches it and then throws it right back at me To match the timing so that it's gonna hit zero the second it gets to me. Well, he's just fucking killed me Like imagine you have a giant Yeah, I pulled the pin so it's entirely new bro Someone has like a flamethrower and a giant fan that blows it away Like and they blow it back to the person with the flamethrower like you kill them You can push it anywhere you want It's yeah, that doesn't mean all these scenarios you can definitely judge to the degree of responsibility But she can deflect that anywhere She put it into his face and when he stops when he's literally so Destroyed that he can't even fire lightning anymore and she continues to blow him up You can't refer to that as well, you know He kind of did it to himself. I guess She's not responsible in any way shape or form. This is the thing I don't even know why we can't just own the fact that she killed him. It's like, yeah Maybe you you know, I guess that it comes into the whole like a jet. I should never execute Uh, which is why When cosmonaut said the um, Anakin executing dooku was okay. We were all like, what the fuck Oh have a little pride Millennium balcony. Oh, yeah, someone just referenced spider-man 3. Yeah, peter didn't have to throw the pumpkin bomb right back into harry's face He chose to just typically did But luckily harry was okay. Yeah, luckily an explosion going off right next to your face I don't know what he was expecting it to do to peter, but No, it moves to the rescue again Kylo Ren's theme still holding ben down as the score rises in anticipation Music Kylo Ren's theme holding ben down What does it mean? I guess it's kind of somber like the way that it's it's arranged. It's like I don't I don't I just took that as it's just another version of his theme because it doesn't it's the you know, you have the Blom-blom-blom like the evil and then you have the la la la la when he comes to save it This is like a halfway point because it's over now, but is she dead It's played sad. It's not it's yeah, I didn't realize it was Kylo Ren's theme holding ben down. I was like, oh He's completely redeemed at this point in the film. Like it's not it's not like he still has kylo ren in him. He's completely Dedicated to the good side now. Yeah, I would careful using the word redeemed because uh I don't see it that way. It doesn't make any sense. He blew a point He should be arrested I don't actually think this is the answer here, but it is possible ben could have read the same text that ray did during his time with luke Give me a break. Okay. All right. Sure. Yeah, hold on the side of you know, why not? This the Jedi takes run the islands Yeah, Kylo Ren was never on the island. Yeah, that's true. Also, um, why wouldn't we just assume The stupid thing which is that he learned how to do it when she did it to him. That's that's the obvious Better counter-argument surely He saw it do it to him. So now he knows how But the force is less about magic incantations waving your wand and correct pronunciations That's been the theme of this trilogy at least which I know upset them. Um, uh You have to show it. You can't just say oh the thing that's the theme of this trilogy is you don't have to Get your magic, right? Okay Don't work or like the the force powers were never explained in the ot or whatever. It's never been in this films It's subtle man. It's very subtle how he sneaks these little lines in that are just like it's it was sucked in the ot It's not that bad. You know, it's manipulative That's why Didn't bother me because that's always how i've seen it didn't bother me that it doesn't really make sense because I've always seen it as not making sense like oh, that's great for you. Yes I mean You see you see some strange things. I think you're willing to see things you want it to be good so much that you Absolutely have no problems seeing things that are just not there That's what you were lifting the x-wing out of the swamp was about um I don't see I don't see how these connect No, so we're addressing the fact that we don't even know how he knows about force healing It's all about the feelings smaller. That's the thing that he's right here. He's saying you just feel the force You don't need to learn specific things. It's all just the feels So it can just do whatever you want it to do at any given time if you just feel it enough This reminds me of the whole like uh, the beam that we made like we're video essays just throw clips You know like the they're attacking the star destroyer with horses and then someone goes I could have just flipped it upside down to kill them all and then I go Ah, but you're forgetting can I play a clip where obi one is like I wish jedi's not dying was so You know like what what is I'm like, well, where we go next point The force around you even between Ray had hurt He's saying it's consistent in the sequel trilogy that people just come up with force powers out of nowhere I guess he's right Yeah, the Just randomly knows stuff that they need to know in order to solve the problems that are ahead of them Yeah, you might think that looks like bad writing, but no, it's a consistent theme throughout this sequel trilogy spontaneous knowledge generation The theme Good old themes Ray had heard stories about jedi mind tricks So after kylo opened her up to I'm sorry ray heard stories about jedi mind tricks They she didn't even think the jedi were real or the force was real. This is a legend She so she heard let assuming she even heard them. She didn't even think they were true They were just stories About how the jedi could trick people with their minds. And so she's like, oh, let me just do it I don't remember him mentioning that That would actually be way better by the way if she was talking about how yeah Those are the those are like the monks that can do those jedi mind trick things right or something like that And then he's like, what do you mean? She's like, oh, they could they could like sort of they like wave their hand and and whatever and they can You know, it's some shit, but better than this where it's just out of nowhere Feeling the force she embraced that same feeling and tried it out ray healed ben So ben knew it was an ability the force offered and he used it knowing full well He'd have to transfer all how can you possibly know that how did you have? Yeah, how do you get from point a to point b? How do you get to point a for starters? But from there, how do you go from that to him saving ray's life? Couldn't have known that why would he want to it would be so embarrassing if he saved it He's like this is oh, oh, he sells vomiting blood. She's like, oh, yeah Well, I mean He's like save me save me. She's like Everyone only gets one That's really made it force energy to ray He doesn't have any light force energy. He's evil. Oh wait. He's terrible horrible person. What does winds think of the kiss? Okay So I did mention the slight romantic tension in last jedi He's actually that's literally majorly his point the fingers touched He believes it. He's he's all that to you. I guess Feel that their relationship goes beyond romantic though They have like a spiritual connection that probably doesn't have an equivalent for us Kylo and now ben has always been drawn to her and her to him as well He's always been drawn to her. That's it. We're just What? Oh And it gets a ding too It's like a kiss of gratitude. Did you read that? A spiritual kiss. It was a romantic kiss See how easy it is to drop in vague stuff like that and not qualify it with anything They were drawn to each other. That's fine moving on ding It feels like the ding meme about cinema sins is like it's a plink of all the cinema wins too. He just digs random shit Yep honesty Also baby steps. What do you mean? They removed it for the places that aren't gonna sell well if they have it in there Yeah, baby steps. It's reversing steps. There are plenty of movies that have lesbian relationships or gay relationships in them They're like well better not put it full screen. Otherwise we can't sell our movie in certain places the right Horrible failure for it I I'm I think we I'm partially insulted by referring to that as baby steps But it was it was almost slimy like the way that they're trying to be like, hey, we're inclusive But not for but not for china. Yeah, make sure it's only enough that we can cut it out bullshit And all is right with the galaxy gonna go out on a limb and say that's Han's medal from a new hope Which would have more meaning to chewy if lucas's whole wait, why would he only have gotten it now? Why would have taken them a whole year to finally give it to you only gonna give it to him once the war is over that seems mean Why would they have that medal Yeah, why would the chewy not have it why would it not be at han's house if he even has a house Why would it not be on the millennium falcon? I would maz have it I guess she just has it just like she fucking had the lightsaber We're never gonna get an explanation for that. I feel like chewy should be pissed off He's like you had this yeah whole time really and she's like, yeah, I've lost use for it myself I thought it was the one that leah had I thought that was the point they were making is lay It's leah's medal or leah had the medal that belonged to han or some shit. I don't know And I can't help She's like holding it in her hand when she lies down on the bed. Yeah, I'm assuming it's gotta be that one It's just it's just a meme though all of us were like wow you did the meme good job film Yes, wookie. I guess I keep calling him call him wookie because he's just not even a character anymore But I guess chubaca the wookie Blow caster wielder He's just like man. Here we are again. We defeated the evil empire We're back to pose a piece. I can't wait to see how at least I don't have anyone that I care about to die I guess I could just finally die He fucking it's best friend mas canata their adventures mas mas not remember everyone remember mas She's like one of the best characters in the whole film. She's the one great. She puts them all on their path. She gives them bits of advice These don't like I want to see her in barbie frick What about you kid? Oh, dude, that is so awkward the shot of chewy like showing off the medal to see 3po Considering what that is. It's like oh, yeah, I remember the medal we got for defeating the empire the first time around But now it's the second time and everyone's it's belong to people who are now dead. Hey look, it's neat though Well, let's find out it's his daughter. I know billy d can't turn off his animal magnetism. It's not his fault Wait, are you implying that? Well, so he thinks that the normal read of that scene is that we think that he's hitting on her even though they're related How is that even hitting on her? Let's go find your family Um I have nothing for that one. That's a weird one It'd be like How about we fucking make a family you and me? Oh, yeah Triple hugging What it doesn't mean anything Why does he smell 3po and r2 like that Our three heroes in front of the falcon chewy 3po and r2 under the wing of luke's x-wing Yeah, I know that's what they want. It's cheap bullshit that they know people like you will clap for Which they were right Love ray's theme with almost a pensive skywalker theme building up underneath ray back. Why is this not a museum? Why why again are we just relying on the themes? He needs to go see the fucking the sideways video. Is it sideways? Stuff sideways No, it's just a guy I made a video about how The soundtrack in his movie is insulting Anyone clings to cinema wins for like how he criticizes music watch sideways He makes really good videos on like soundtrack and movies and like he knows what he's talking about Back to her roots sliding down a sand hill back to star wars roots Yep, white gold saber made from her staff lending her scavenger past with her Jedi Um Okay, is that what that color means Future also, I know the novelization says it's one-sided, but it also says it's the inverse of dark rays Two, wait, wait, wait the inverse of the double-sided lightsaber is a one-bladed lightsaber The opposite of two It's all of them are one though, so all of them are the opposite of evil rays lightsaber is what you say I um Okay One is the opposite of two sure And the section of her staff they used is pretty symmetrical. There's no spin knob in the bottom, so Okay, so also going frame by frame shows a green and then so, um The spooky theory the one that I hate is that uh, she took the The the kyber crystals out of luke and layers lightsabers and put them into her own And that for some reason together they make that color, which is just the idea that she Like pilfered the lightsabers of those people to make her own. Oh Ray Ray Ray is that ray is the character that pilfered the ot like she just took everything and made it Her own greatness. Yeah every all the old stuff has to be shit to fuel the new stuff So something cool is going on and I'm not sure what it is And like I said in my last Jedi video, it's not about where you're from or what blood yet We got that It clearly Choose to be a fucking Skywalker. It's like Get fucked The the whole point of this this You know series was about legacy and the importance of your bloodline and how it doesn't have to define you But it still means something and you can't just choose to be whatever else you want to be Such bullshit Skywalker You know all the skywalkers are fucking dead. So who's gonna stop her? Ray the magnificent. We'll know incredible. The marvelous unstoppable Blood runs through your veins. It's always been more important that you choose who you want to be I've got a few more thoughts about that for later And I know some people were confused why bb8 wouldn't have stayed with poe And I just took this to mean that ray was gonna come back No, she kidnapped the droid She kidnapped the droid the droid is very scared right now. It doesn't know what's gonna happen Yeah I know the movie is over, but maybe this time you three could work together create some kind of democratic system Oh boy, I can't wait to see a republic run by these three chuckleheads. It's gonna be great Things were gonna be great. And then this movie decided that they didn't turn out good This trilogy just totally decided arbitrarily that things in the galaxy didn't just improve negatively They got exponentially worse It can't immediately be taken over by the sith again. So yeah, it was hopeful for me Like poe was busy hitting on zory. So bb8 went on a little drunk with red. Oh, all right And obviously one more end where we began with our double sons on. Yeah, gotta get that double son. Yeah, I get them Yeah, how you do it remember classic image we can pilfer Yep Um has gg aprams ever had a fucking original thought in his head in his entire life Okay, so you know that this is part one and if you're from the future There's a card up there with part two in it We'll also be in the description but almost 30 minutes and I didn't get to the conclusion at all I have a lot written and I'm still kind of organizing it. So I'm hoping to have that by the end of next week Okay, so you didn't even get to it because you weren't done with it Well, please sir, share with us with your wisdom. Yeah, I guess that leads us to Now we do cinema sins. Oh, cinema wins part two. I don't know which is more suitable What do you guys think I've never been more excited to watch a cinema sins Yeah, let's do the sins. All right. Yeah, I think that's fair. We can we can trade over Part two exists. Yes, it does And the I realized we might not be able to do it in time. It took us four hours to get through one But you know We'll do everything. So cinema sins. We're just gonna run right into it because the last time I mean What can I say that video wasn't very good. What do you guys reckon? Yeah, what do you thoughts That's really richy really really richy Though this is what we suspected you have to do some incredible and insane reaching to find good things for This film but to make a half hour Show about how good it actually is guys Well, I for one have learned that the sound design on this film was excellent So that's turned my opinion around completely. I was gonna say I noticed he talked a lot about the sounds and the sound track Did you guys pick that up? I did Sounds good. It looks cool. I'm I'm glad that he felt that those things were good I think as well. It's the he's his own prediction came true where if you just pretend that all of this is what you wanted Then it's perfectly great. It's a fantastic movie. So I think he's proof of that I'm ray ray who ray this said it spinzletistically while screeching Um All right, so that was he didn't do very well, but cinemas since you he's got an easy job ahead of him, right? This should be Quite the you know, we should be getting through this pretty easy. I imagined. Yeah, should be fingers crossed Check it out So it's a good trick Man we This have we seen this before I haven't Recently it's really weird. I think he dropped it too Oh I was gonna say I don't know about this. This seems weird The classic one for like literal years Oh, yeah, that looks kind of awkward, doesn't it? Yeah, I don't like it. It looks weird It doesn't look like there is any unifying vision here It's just have it be on the left, but it's not lined up horizontally like it needs to be and then I'll have What I used to have but on the right But a little bit lower because everything's longer than wrong and with And then I'll have some more text that doesn't match any of the other texts that says in however much time or less It's what a mess. It's awkward Oh and the dark words turn red everything spoilers wrong with I don't know what was written when but the introduction of emperor god damn palpatine in episode nine Feels like a desperate attempt to give people who hated the last jedi a nostalgia high right off the bat What no, we didn't want this. No, how are you retarded? We just started We didn't want that it's be so wrong We don't We know we that's I don't even I'd say that the return of palpatine is to try and get audiences interested That seems to be the goal with that one like remember palpatine You all do hopefully the people who like tlj and the people who didn't like tlj are not gonna like palpatine coming back There's not It's awful kill it with fire Who watched the first two movies and thought somehow emperor palpatine figures into this who is he fighting? They look like kindly baby yoda types. They're all like half java half e-walk jawaks. Who? Why do Why Matter I it it's just he's fighting these people And it's plot things need to happen. Okay. Are they and what did they do to piss off kylo ren? Well, you might care as I do but the movie does not you move on you're too old. Let it go Nobody listen detect no now. Let's go in the middle of the woods of some random planet There's a star map to where emperor palpatine is it's called a sith wayfinder And it may be the dumbest thing ever put in a star wars film. I want to sith create a map to his location It's powerful as palpatine and kylo are can't palpatine communicate this via the force and how did kylo know this device was on this planet Wait, there are four So Yeah, we never told how he knew where that thing was sure In the middle of the forest sitting there oddly Um, couldn't emperor palpatine just Have a mind chat with kylo. I think that's fair too Because he does later in the film I think You just don't go to this planet. It's yeah at this location In the forest And then why would you want to have something that can get people to your location? Like why would you want that to be something that could randomly be found? Yeah, I think that's all right I would force transmit to you this thawb It would beep faster as you get closer to me Oh, he's saying why do you need four things to plug into it? I don't know man That's just how it works. I guess the sith wayfinder if I didn't need four photo plugs for this thing anyway I have died before The dark side of the force I'm gonna pause just in case Yes, the case with copyrightism Force is a pathway to many ability. Okay. I'm starting to wonder how he got away with it You gotta be careful. They snap you for like six seconds. Yeah Is some consider to be And seriously tempted to put the cover up just to try and get away with audio Unnatural That is literally all the explanation this movie cares to give about the return of palpatine Also, it's weird that you have this technology to clone yourself and instead of being a young palpatine You're the same old palpatine that got thrown into the death star shaft. Yeah. Yeah, he's right. Yeah I would be I'd be super hot young creamy sheave. Mm-hmm Return of the Jedi. Let me look at what Ian McDermott looked like. He's go Ian Uh McDermott McDermott Ian McDermott I'm gonna find him from 1970 or something Hmm I find some old picture of him perhaps Maybe fairly might have looked worse if they like de-aged him too Oh, dude. Oh, man. Okay. Fucking hell. Look at this shit That's Hayden christensen Is it? Oh, yeah it is Ignore that I was about to say damn Although that would be hilarious It was like because he got the because he has it's it's in sepia tone and he's got a weird hair and so you're like I gotta find a young picture of he doesn't look like him like obviously, but you know, oh, yeah, it's you know, it's just a different picture Surely there's a picture of him when he's young Yeah, I'm trying to find something but uh Ian McDermott and Ian Charleston. Damn it. Surely there's a picture of him young Or was kind of his claim to fame. I I mean, I'm sure he was in other stuff. I'm sure but trying to find it That was early on Ian Charleston. Is that him young? No, that's someone else I gotta find a picture of young Ian Durham There's gotta be one I know photographs were around. No, he escaped them No, we're fine. We're gonna find one. We're gonna find one. Oh, let me just let me okay, let me uh I gotta go back a little bit Ah God we need to go younger Um, here's something. This is important. Yeah, see we're getting there, but we we have to go more too old more Very intimidating in that Looks kind of like Billy Crystal Quite a high forehead to face ratio there Dothidia Um, here's sort of one I mean he kind of looks the same So was like that he just looks the same but but without wrinkles That's pretty much it I mean, he's it's definitely an improvement Honestly, yeah If you had a choice you would yeah, you would look like that rather than palpatine. Yeah Yeah, he he looks fine Here we go young palpatine As young as we can apparently find And he was in he was in ikabad crane. He's the legend sleepy hollow. He was in the ikabad crane. That's true Yes, he was in the ikabad crane movie Okay Give me Everything earlier in this conversation emperor palpatine said the first order was just the beginning I can give you so much more now. He's like I'll give you everything and all of this is just vague enough to ask What exactly did any of these sith assholes actually want not money not sex power is the main goal What do they want to use that power for if the ultimate goal is to shape the universe into an evil spiral of wickedness Is the power just being used for their entertainment value Power for its own sake Is fine motivation Especially for it's like an evil person if he's asking what palpatine's goal is It's originally to have ray kill him and then take your body and become huber powerful But then he realizes there are dyad and so he's like lol i'm super powerful now To say like the film never establishes that that's not something which is introduced in the opening You could say maybe barely even has any established motivations early on so I mean this you know, even even I would be like, yeah, we don't entirely know what he's up to right now As long as we know it once the film is over We can sort of work with it All the star destroyers are for nothing They just say they exist and they say he's gonna attack or something in 16 hours or whatever or so Oh, yeah, he's like take over the yoda voice Like I hated king joffrey on game of thrones, but we knew that his power was a means to satisfy his own amusement I don't know what the hell these guys want to control I mean, yeah to be in charge and to control is its own desire I'd argued that that's a little bit weak a little bit vague just power To be able to control things that's what is that's what he was in the ot you only wanted to be in control of all of it Or like there's a difference between It means like saturday morning cartoon villain will just be like i want to rule the world and they just they just have like a Saturday morning cartoon I'm sorry. It's not bad because it's in a saturday morning cartoon Power galaxy especially on a galactic scale Is you you have you have the power to do whatever you want You don't have to bow to the authority of anybody else. You can shape the world to your will Oh, yeah power can be used well, but would you would you agree that like it could have like It makes for a stronger story or a stronger character If like the the mechanics of it are a little bit more fleshed out over just like that could have been better But i'm totally fine. I think it's totally fine for a sith lord to want power I'm fine with that too like power in itself can make for a good storyline. I don't know if that powers its own powers its own end as a goal Yeah, I maybe that's what I what I was saying wasn't exactly what sin was since I was saying but So much comes with it Yeah Power means a lot Some of our software has some buggy code and a lot of the stuff we promised at the expo of evil won't be in the final product But our launch will still go better than that warcraft 3 remake Um I was I guess I was a joke Is he Is he joking the whole they can't they don't know which way is up thing or I don't even know I have no idea More of the wiki playing holographic space chess That's what fresh star wars looks like kids the same just with the twist of line aka the same thing I like I can't The the back and forth between cinema wids instead of a since He since watches this he's like fucking shitty callback boo and it's like The conversation you can have about that is could it ever work? Is it always bad to just have something that we saw in the ot? You know that that could be the way you could take it other wids was like How great is po and fit together their relationship is so awesome. It's like what relate what? Like Like the the space chess thing. I'm fine with this. They are on the ship Yeah, it makes sense that this is something they would probably play. I don't know Yeah, this one's fine to me sequels like an incorporate stuff from the previous films like the Terminator 2 has a lot of elements from the first terminator There's similarities instead of like the the sequels that they're made so doesn't necessarily even You know like the idea that they end up on the death star in episode nine It's just like wow that's the fucking we know exactly why doing that But then playing the chess game. It's just like well, I mean It's on the ship. They're on the ship. I don't know There's things you can do that are distracting that are references and there's things that are just like well It's already there and it was supposed to be there in the first place anyway so it's like It's not they're not trying to make the reference specifically It's like well they want to have a scene on the millennium falcon and then they just happen to have the Chess board there. So why don't we just have them playing chess? Plus I didn't see the chess board get vaporized. So that helps Yeah Thanks. Meanwhile, I don't know about the fortress of hothitude How thick do you think that ice wall is How the fuck are you talking about? Oh, we're handful of tie fighters in front of you before you said that It's bad enough that this kind of force can't that's actually a fair point Look at many tie fighters. They're uh One two three four five six seven. Did they Hyperdrive through it or did they go through it and then hyperdrive? Well, they went you think I would have shot it before they ran through it Yeah, you think that's uh, I don't know what's going on. I didn't really how how thick do you think that ice is? I don't know. Let's slam into it. Fuck it Turn your brain off down the millennium falcon, but it's even worse that the movie totally forgets about what is directly in front of The heroes after one single cut Oh It came out of hyperspace right under Billy Eil's scalp. Oh my god Okay He's like family guy Yeah Hyperspace in a super dangerous situation, which is something I always wondered about with the original trilogy But a long ago made peace with the fact that the ship's computers calculate for possible collision and route the hyperspace journey around any danger Then this movie comes along. What are you doing? Lightspeed skipping How do you know how to do that? First off if lightspeed skipping is a thing then po one of the pre-eminent pilots in the galaxy would know how to do that But second off lightspeed skipping I feel like you could have actually made arguments there, but he sort of yeah Said lightspeed skipping and then dinged it. It's like you could you could just explain even just briefly why that's a problem Me he was like if someone's gonna know it it would be po. It's like, okay I don't know. Yeah It's not the issue Issue is that this is clearly an invention to try and get away from the fact That we invented hyperspace tracking last movie And that is going to be an incredible issue Be with me. She talking to luke or she anthropomorphizing the force be with me sounds like a michelle branch song title from 2003 See this is why he's strange Like you could have just ignored the be with me thing who knows what that's about really This is really could be very spiritual, but he's like I don't know. He's that's the thing he paused on not the fact that she was flying by the way that didn't All right in there play this level several times before and it's obvious This is practically a speedrun This jump is far less impressive when you see that it takes two different shots of her physically jumping off the log And three cuts to make it happen Yes, Reggie Jackson. I know it looks uh It looks like I'm making excuses Don't tell me what things look like. Tell me what they are I love carry fischer. We all do but jj's insistence on keeping her an important part of this final skywalker film Despite her untimely death ultimately hurts the story in the overall presentation of this final film He's inserted pre-existing footage shots of her are ridiculously awkward. Yep. I agree Mm-hmm And it's fun. It's funny cinema cinema one said the exact opposite and it's just like, yeah I I think that cinema sins argument is a lot more valuable. I feel like we're kind of Reaching the uh the conclusion here already. It's like it really depends Like almost the quality of their coverage will depend on how well made the film was that seems to be it Like a cinema sins video on mission impossible fallout is going to be pretty bad But something they do on something like this is going to be all right because It just depends on the it's like not all films are completely good or completely bad. So it's like I think the ideal video style of this is something in between man But like just trying to find the pure good and pure bad and everything. It's like it's not always gonna work out They remind me a lot of when they did that with toni's mom and the sopranos Somehow palpatine returned Writer's room reaction to jj's big idea That's an actual scene in the movie There were up ciphers here. I can't read bummer, but he said to get there. You need one of these Tony what the f*** their compasses that lead the way to Exegol So what you're telling me is that this movie is ripping off the primary macguffin from the pirates of the Caribbean a compass I mean that's not like that's not what my criticism would have been it would have been Luke knew about this the entire time it was in his books. He was studying it. He didn't tell anybody It's just always Luke even more. He's just like, oh, we're gonna save Luke in this one. No, no, f*** it He gets worse sacred Jedi texts. Oh red them. Have you? Never mind that this scavenger hunt needs to be successful in 16 hours Which is the time frame the movie gave for the emperor's attack on the free worlds The general asked me just yeah, he's right. They don't really address that that much in the film at all the fact that they got this horrible timeline It's so funny. There's time with the waves when they're trying to get out to the death star And they're just like we'll have to wait for the waves to subside They don't say like we don't have time for that it never feels like it's a ticking clock Feels like they're just like we're fine It's so pointless as well because they all arrive completely unscathed. What was the point in even mentioning that there was a storm When they don't get into any difficulty it doesn't cause any issues for them Spare like little boat thing. It's funny. They don't even need the 60 now a thing But JJ just doesn't he needs his ticking clock. He doesn't know what to do without it He just it has to be there Gotta be in the back gotta keep things moving Go go go study the specs of all destroyers so we can stop the flea How about killing Marie trans got a rock in paratits? Feel free to Have you seen the picture like when she's not playing rose like she's beautiful. Yeah like these feel Yeah The scene where she's walking up to to fin here and they're just kind of you know doing their thing in there. You're like man Yeah, wow They turned her insanely ugly in tlj. They ugly five the shit out of her It's really weird Anyway fleet if you find it Yeah, knowing the specs of the old destroyers will surely help you to destroy 18 million supposedly new destroyers Ah the knights of ren are back See they even had to include dialogue to remind viewers who these guys were because they were absolutely entire previous film In finnish, they were absolutely most of tfa too. Yeah, they were just sort of mentioned And that's sort of that Flashback. Yeah, don't you? Yeah, that was just sort of it. I'm still baffled like why does he say goose? I don't get it. It's like it's like they were writing the script and it's like well He has to have some sort of reply here. What the fuck can he say? Goose. Yeah, okay. I'll do If it was me, I wouldn't say anything as they were walking by I wouldn't like while they were there said goose So They like kind of went to attention like they were just like, all right. They're on their way That that shows a little more intimidation factor than just like knights of ren Goose, it's it's weird. I'm surprised that they didn't reference the ot by saying maybe it's another drill I would have preferred that Mainly because I don't know what it means to be a ghoul And ryan johnson was like, well, I'm good, but it's a new hope all over again I want to take star wars in new directions and JJ sees the last Jedi and says what the f*** ryan? You threw out everything I did. I'm bringing it all back. Damn it And kathleen kennedy sat at a table counting money like gust van sant and jay and silent bob say not now ben I'm busy and collin travaro was over in the corner raising his hand saying I am chop That was an extensive reference Forced to choke a multi cabinet member. We are just playing all the hit. He's not mouthy asking a question. What the hell are they there otherwise? See your people if you dig that take out your masturbation assistance devices now She really looks weird. You do the thing with his hair He managed to let it flow Strange that we couldn't hear that crowd until they got around that rock That's actually fair. Yeah, all right He's criticizing the sound design everyone He would be honored to know your family name too. Oh, give me a f*** break. We get it Ray Long's for familial connection I feel like JJ wrote the script on autopilot then ran it by a bunch of first-year film school students for a touch-up That necklace snatching is so dramatic. I'm surprised it didn't lead to the death of bruce wane's parents Um, all right, I don't think there's anything wrong A dramatic I I'd criticize the mechanics of it. It doesn't like yeah, I don't know why I wouldn't yeah Because that like so so many questions I have We've had this analyzed it comes from the midian system persona forbidden valley you analyzed a bead necklace and they gave you the exact location Shocked it didn't at least offer up the possibility of new orleans Leah sent me a transmission. Leah sent you a transmission, but didn't send the others a transmission Yeah, he's right. It's really stupid that Leah would be like hey lando. I'm sending some people to you But I'm not gonna tell them about it at all You could find them, right? You're good at finding people You're not good at finding daggers though. And then you'd be like hey, by the way lando Remember that mission you went on with luke was that about he's like oh trying to find a Wayfinder to palpatine's planet Or I don't even know secret exit. It's so confusing all of it is I'm gonna look for you I wouldn't setting up a meeting between lando and the others be the plan from the get-go Instead ray walks around the festival gets a bead necklace plays herself when kylo reaches into the void and grabs it for analysis And gets attacked by storm troopers all because they couldn't set up a meeting in the first place Only two were made It's his wayfinder I still don't know why they made these things, but if they wanted sith to be able to find this place Why would they only make two this is like god only giving moses one copy of the 10 commandments Oh shit Also, yeah, I'm sorry, but this is what happens when we're covering someone we kind of agree with them a lot of time I think this happened with cinema wins on joker, right for a lot of it. We were like, mm-hmm Uh, yeah a lot of it. Yeah Yeah, man, this this isn't like a perfect video. He's made some mistakes. There's been some just jokes Which is like, oh, and he's totally like ran over so many other errors, but she's like Hmm Luke and I were telling an old Jedi No, you weren't you think moody ass loner luke decided to call lando up to track down a Jedi hunter I'm not buying it. But look, I get it. You wanted to put lando in your movie. I agree That's actually true. Yeah, why would luke and lando be the two to go after a Jedi hunter? You think you'd get like some of his students or he'd get some Someone he'd get wedge or he'd get I mean, I don't know the lander would agree. That'd be like a busy with best. I'm like running a city I'm not going to track down some Jedi hunter What are the cheering in the applause? God damn it all the hell stop re-hitting all the beats JJ. This is like having spock y'all con instead of kirk How do you know how to do that? Why does fin keep asking po questions about his ability to know things about the very thing in which he is an expert That's actually pretty fair. Why wouldn't he know how to do that? Of course is leading into the hole. He was a spice runner and like he's done shitty things. So it's like He's a pilot for the resistance and they're kind of a criminal outfit in a way So it's like, yeah, it makes sense that you know how to like hot wire a ship. Yeah He's just he's good with ships. Like, okay Excitement also did everyone forget about bubba fat? He flew without comment Too long before these dudes even met and he set the flight bar that these fools just forget He wrapped that one. Nice. Nice. I like it. Good for you, man No one will be seated during the mad max fury road portion of the film Jesus It's quicksand the oldest trick in the false tension book just like that one harry potter film The real answer here ends up being to let go and allow yourself to be swallowed by the vines quicksand, which is I guess Luke sensed it. Oh, she never left this place So tell me again how luke ran into a dead end when looking for this guy if he could sense him Wouldn't the force tell him where this guy ended up? Well, it's just it's just weird that luke would be like he's definitely here somewhere, but I can't find him. Anyway, bye I gotta go to that island forever. I can only spend a week here My interplanetary v6 virus. I only got a week Let me put it this way if we watched a star wars movie where luke was looking for this guy He'd use the force to find out that his body was in the ground underneath the quicksand He wouldn't even bat an eye that he found him But this movie is trying to say he just gave up after searching oakie's ship with lando After falling through the quicksand into a system of caves They find the magical dagger of truth that ultimately helps rey find her way later And I just have to say quicksand x machina. Am I right because jesus. How did you find it? I literally fell on it. I know exactly where the wayfinder is Unfortunately And again, like he's just right with a lot of these ones. Yeah Fivers so like you've just been completely valid. So it's like, oh, yeah So what my programming forbids me from translating it god damn it Is that his way of being like that's a bit stupid and we should figure that out for ourselves or this Like I there's an argument to back that up But like I it's the same thing that cinema wins does to a degree where he's just like yep And it's like you just kind of have to like he just it's like it's inherently either good or bad I it's like I would criticize him the same way I criticize cinema wins for that But it's like you could have made an argument, but he just said it's bad. So yeah Yeah, that's right. Ray knows parcel tongue. I just transferred a bit of life Force energy from me to him. But can you get that back somehow? Does it regenerate like a special move bar in a video game? So they parked their ship here and then climbed down into a trench then climbed up onto a mesa because the knights have run are cinematic That's a fair point. They seem to have had a vantage point where they landed And they decided a higher vantage point too. Yeah Other just dead Standing around with their weapons Wanted a good view they could have stayed on the higher peak where their ship is So And they all they need to do is not do that just roll until it stops Stumbles out a little bit. He's like, oh, well, I am dizzy from all that spinning Whoo That was pretty badass. It was not what? I disagree. I think that was stupid and really dumb. It's yeah That's the thing that can happen. You can just force lightning ships and they blow up pretty badass. What the fuck? I don't know about that. Yeah, you might have to explain a little further another transport in the desert It brought back a valuable prisoner. I'm happy that Chewbacca isn't dead But how the f*** did Ray and everybody else miss the fact that there was a second transport? It was sitting right there next to the other transport. Why didn't they see the other one fly off? Hey, man, Finn just, you know Made a mistake what It's like the iron fleet. You just kind of forgot about it And Ray couldn't sense Chewbacca was alive. The beast used to fly with Han Solo Who gives a f*** if he used to fly with Han Solo? You do know he's with the other people you're looking for, right? That's actually really fair. Like the fact that he used to fly with Han Solo is irrelevant Compared to what's going on right now. Han Solo is dead That old shitty dead guy His relationship to Han Solo means about as much to this movie as the fact that Donald Gleason was an ex-Machina with Oscar Isaac Let's do that. I know a black market trunks man Um I don't know why that's I mean, I know a black market droid smith. I guess He knows he has an old contact a guy. He knows who can help them with the things that they need to do Is he laughing at the idea of a droid smith? I'll get one like a Like why would you need a black market for droids? I Um sex bots. I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have a problem with that one Cock and ball torture bots For chewy Really wish c3bio would die. He hasn't been funny or fun since the original Wow Unironically the best part of this movie. I don't see I don't hate c3bio That's so weird. He's I mean up until this point. He's barely even been in it like Yeah, it's whole screen time up in the previous two movies was what like five minutes at most Yeah, it was more of a cameo. He's not really in them But uh Even chat. It's like, okay Geez, I really wish he would die No trilogy and even then he was pushing it. Hello. Yes because bb8 needed a boyfriend This is like playing rainbow six rogue spear Don't any of you modern rainbow six or ghost recon bitches even start with me about how old that reference makes me sound Your ass at a rogue spear grenades only run right now. I jumped a bit there, but uh, I don't really miss anything. Yeah Any of you modern rainbow six or ghost recon bitches even start with me about how old that reference makes me sound I'm old I don't care and I could kick your ass at a rogue spear grenades only run right now I don't understand why everybody had to go on this mission Aren't you easier to spot when you're in a crew that includes three droids? We make him translated. He won't remember Anything sounds good to me. Let's go. Why don't we pause here to consider this for let's go Uh, I'm happy that they consider it, but they they don't really do they they will just like yeah, that's a thing that could work Let's do that You should save c3 because they want to save him. That's the reason they don't just jump into it right away And that's the thing i'm what his memory. I think it should be concluded that it is the way to go But I don't think it's bad that they would you know, think about it first Jenkins does an r2 backup your memory. Oh, please r2 storage units are famously unreliable And that's all the moviehouse to say about that. Yeah, it's not even true Like any type r2 has ever used been used for anything in this all these movies. He's very reliable Yeah, um Also, you'd think that if our twos were unreliable, then they just get another robot to do it I mean, that's essentially a copy of you I feel like if I was a robot that would be uh pretty high at my priority tier Just put on a usb. Mm-hmm. If this mission fails It was all for nothing. Is it just me or more than 16 hours gone by at this point We sent out a call for help at the battle of crete Nobody came. Did you ever wonder if there was a problem with your signal or transmission and not that people didn't care? Didn't they say they responded? Oh, they they Were we sent out the message that no one's coming. They literally said the message is working. I just don't respond it Oh All right Yeah, he's wrong Gotta go now. Did we get it babu? Yep, the joint is ready Perfect timing, dude Chewie, what about him? He's gonna bring shit. Oh now you can sense him Also, it would have been way better for the movie for the reveal that he's alive to happen here And not some bulls*** scene with general hox. I don't like either of it. I don't like fucking faking out I mean, I guess I guess that would be better I don't know. Wouldn't it be confusing as hell? She's like chewie. You know like wait one He's like It would end the subtitles to be like, yeah, you fucking blew up the ship after me. Thank god. We took off first Oh Might get you on the capital ship. Thank god She had this and that she was willing to give it to po even though She'd been carrying it for years waiting for a way out herself She's basically female alien helmeted Jesus and being played by karry russell. I bow down to her search the city again Okay She's close for a guy that can steal her necklace during visions. Yeah, why don't you just go vision mode? Because he does do that a few minutes after this But kylo like he's like searching for all the time and for some reason you only randomly sometimes is like maybe I'll use the forcedism He sure is dumb about wearing how to find her even when he's close People that were just shooting to kill our heroes suddenly decided to take them prisoner This actually happens a lot in star wars movies, but it goes largely unnoticed Look, I get it when kylo grabs a necklace and force steals it from one world to another I do not get it when they smash the darth vader pedestal and somehow the image of only his mask Transports to another place they could apparently only see each other and not their surroundings. So how does any of this work? Oh, I don't know I thought I thought it actually did fall down not not just the image of it. Well But the thing is though, which I think is fair It's like how does how does how do the world determine that like what? Is it just things that are moving? Transfer into the other world if you don't know other place like but then yeah I think the point as well is like how come none of the other debris that was scattered around gets transported It's literally just the helmet And like if some guy was just running past this happening would he end up flowing into the other world like whoa I don't know. It's all very stylish And it's the it's just funny because the vader helbert isn't what would have given it away to kylo If anybody was paying attention in this scene, it's the fucking knife You Are a palpatine You know why this is a surprise because nobody can imagine emperor palpatine having sex And now I have a million questions about the backstory of this whole thing Then I am sure is explained in a book or a comic or some Palpatine finding out about rey occurred after his death by the way I know he was cloned but who told him he had a granddaughter while he spent his days on that distant planet If you say the force then why wasn't he able to locate her and kill her while she ran around scavenging on jacu? If you say one of his minions kept tabs on palpatine's son I'll call you a liar because there's no way palpatine anybody I don't know like how powerful were rey's parents in the force and stuff And I don't know like you think that dreamy. She's gotten around. I do believe that actually Oh, yeah, I think so too. I think there if women are attracted to power And cream hashtag literally every single woman Yep Uh Can jump a bit to hide a sith wayfinder thing that shouldn't even exist in the first place Somebody came out here wrote down some coordinates drew a picture and then said I shall construct a blade from the outline of this drawing And then engrave those coordinates in the sith language that nobody except sith and state repeal can read while you play I don't know I just do what the cocaine tells me That was see this is the thing that's so strange to me about his channel There's so many ways you can criticize that pot and that's what he went with Like yeah, it's just it's just I don't get it like I don't know what his system is He just was like, yeah He was just whatever he thinks of first. He just does and moves on and people go with it um You can go first like tomorrow. We can't wait that long. We don't have the time Is it just me or is more than 16 hours gone by at this point? You were first order Not by choice. We were conscripted as kids All of us once again this movie would have been just fine without she took a skimmer Yeah, I know like yeah, it's more problems Yeah, but they were trying to bring it all to a point, you know finn's ex stormtrooper enos Like oh, shit We've only got one more movie to make this like have a reason to have happened You know like uh, he meets a bunch of people who are also like him turns out the force can rescue people from stormtrooper enos Which is just totally undermines his his entire character because it used to be like he took a conscious decision there Under mines a lot of people's characters It's like if a force can just change you know, this just happened everywhere. Yeah, it's I don't like it She can make herself levitate. Why can't she just fly there interstellar wave is interstellar. Well, I'm not lea That's the damn sure are you really doing this protagonist fight before the big finish cliche here? Yeah, but they never actually addressed that again Yeah, it's weird. There's that sort of Bane fight thing and then nothing else. It's like, oh Poe's been more correct Uh, yeah, I mean Poe is often correct. He's just the whole fucking all the films just constantly berate him for it Sounds about right Seriously with all the stuff that ray has to do to navigate this death star wreckage to get the wayfinder the people who hit it Could have told people where it was and they still couldn't have found it Man, right working her way. I mean, no There's plenty of ways to get to The palpatine or climbers. There'll be people who are persistent Yeah, like you have people who are explorers My issue is that ray doesn't use the force in any way to get there when she could have She floats. Yep She lets it herself up. Just keep doing that. Don't stop. You know spelunking is not something That's like not many people know about it all in any way. It's like you probably hire somebody to do it You know we have you don't most most people would come here in like a functioning ship that could have just landed like Right next to the throne room because there's windows here that face out the way So you could easily get into this without doing any climbing whatsoever We know speeders and hovercraft are just things you can have you just get little Things you stand on that hover around or if you want them to go they're like little mini senate chairs I want someone to have a senate chair and flow up to this place Hey, they must have done something with them. I guess they got sold. They're out there on the civilian market some people got those senate chairs they Like they're just floating right there living room in one. They convert them into hot tubs and just float around You referenced tomb raider as well Oh wow, that's weird. That's the best tomb raider movie ever made Whoa, it's like you got some empire strikes back in my rise of skywalker. It's like metaphorical and stuff The only way you're getting taxed a call is with me I have been through too much with this wayfinder to just have kylo smash it entirely deeply too much This whole movie has been about ray trying to find this thing Now kylo smashes it as if all the that happens in the movie after this can't happen without it I think yeah, i'm gonna add a hundred sins with this sure yada yada the Uh, all right Yep, you gave it a hundred sins for something that's not necessarily a sin or at least a failure Like they just sort of end up out here eventually I guess You can have like an item that a film revolves around and then subvert that Like with some sort of a reveal like it doesn't You could have done the way finder to think right like it is I guess it makes us roll the sins he missed How the fight went from the main emperors chamber in the wreckage to out here on a floating piece of Jetson I can't believe i'm saying this but i'm actually bored with this lightsaber battle What do we think is going to actually happen here? It's so fun because the cinema's cinema wins was like everything about this fight is amazing It's kind of you get the South side the lightsabers the cool side the way that they're doing It's wet that means rain. Yeah the rain and then you got cinema sins. Who's like this is boring Yeah Every lightsaber battle in the original trilogy seemed consequential obi-wan dying Luke losing his hand and the negotiation between good and evil itself this one Yeah, Ray's gonna stab kylo when leia distracts him, but Ray's gonna heal him immediately afterward This is a laser show And maybe i'll pay attention Why does she decide to heal him again because his death makes leia sad because he had a shirt off that one time Lightsaber battling for it wasn't self-defense man Rage ocean shirt took a time out while these two had this long private moment, didn't it? That's yeah The waves don't you see they're like Golfed kylo on the waves of the force. Yeah. Yes The as the as they are fighting stopped and so too did the waves settle I guess it's beautiful if you think about it. It's a metaphor for their Hand service the princes of order has disrupted my plan And just what I thought this movie was going to avoid resorting to one hologram Here it is and all like glory What's remarkable is that in this world 30 plus years have gone by and they're still glitchy eyesores And all the bad guys everyone are doing these movies is blow up planets But I guess it's cool But I've seen enough exploding planets in these movies to not be moved by them anymore I just don't really care. I mean when when you blow up what four five of them right off the bat and the force awakens I'm like, oh, okay. I guess all right My trouble is it never leads to anything like instead of the ot like they only blew up all the run to like Essentially extract information from leia and then they tried to destroy yav and it's like they They were using the desktop to produce fear instead of this. They're just let's blow up every planet that's against us It's like this It's not a good way to try to rule the galaxy But yeah, I totally and with him on the whole I have no investment in planets They just get blowed up all the time It just happens Yeah, same here as Just split dull. You don't know enough about the planets I mean every ship in the fleet has planet killing weapons Of course they do this reminds me of that story by hams christian anderson for two screenwriters Promise the emperor that they'll give him an imagination But then they decide not to give him one at all They just tell him it's there and then everybody claims that the emperor has an imagination because they don't look stupid and tell A kid observes him and says but he doesn't have an imagination at all. We had each other That's how we won family This droid has a ton of information. I'm sorry. What? Family family house family a sin. I thought it's all about really Understand family You don't have to understand family Again, that's the same thing that cinemas wins does sometimes where it'll just be like yep or honesty and it's just like one word It's it's not an argument at all. It's just You can have to make an inference as the audience Are we supposed to be like how could you possibly claim that all this is about family at this point as opposed to just crazy nonsense That's the same crazy nonsense crazy nonsense. It all makes sense St. Peter on a pizza this convenient got to stop and so help me fancy moses if you start with me on that It's the force this is just lazy writing and the star wars fair world war continues coming up next Mace window the ghost of Anakin Skywalker from the original trilogy before they replaced him with hayden christianson And a fantastic cover band called there can be obiwan the name sounds app But it's not also apparently jedi ghosts can handle physical objects now This really raises questions as to why yoda and obiwan couldn't help out with the cause after they Cause it's only on this island idiot We all knew that was why He probably hasn't even read the novelization Leia knew it too I am exhausted at what the force can and can't tell jedi as their siths Ray had no idea she was a palpatine but luke and leia knew somehow I know the force can tap into other people's thoughts and feelings but family lineage Some things are stronger than blood Ah, you are the son of the evil darth vader, you numb nuts How the f*** is this a lesson anyone in the universe needs to learn? Well, she had to learn it like Several times too. I don't know. Yeah, it's all those truths. That's right. That's your deep character Yeah, it's really fucking lame at this point everyone knows about how you were good even though your dad was You know what 50 cents because some things are stronger than stupid dialogue like the sin counter Yeah, you can darken the screen and light the scene only with a blue lightsaber And this digitally young and leia still looks pretty creepy Is it just me or is more than 16 hours gone by at this point? You know, I think he's probably right at this point Also the fans may love it that luke finally got a chance to lift his ship out of some water after completely failing to do So in the empire strikes back But I better see an army of goddamn jedi ghosts coming to fight the emperor after this That asshole quaggaon and the dude with a three foot net better be there lightsabers drawn What in my head under no circumstance Well, that was a quick edit, but it's still the character insists They won't do the thing only to do the thing cliche. Are you seeing these apmo readings? Did he just say apmo instead of atmosphere because that's op no They can't activate their shields until they leave atmosphere. I got nothing to say on some of these They're just so yeah Yeah, they're they're small but they're valid. So it's like, okay. Yeah I mean like not small in scale, but like they're just he doesn't make very Large arguments or something. It's just he says something. That's correct. It's like, okay. Yeah Who he says at mo because he's super cool po is slick Oh, he's got no time to waste on big words. He's just to get on it quickly, you know Tom It's like a fresh cum shot on a brass doorknob Yeah, what he said But why we think hitting the cannons might ignite the main reactors If there's anything I learned from watching the nine main star wars films It's that the empire first order didn't learn a goddamn thing over 60 year time span Sure, it's great that our heroes can find my new weaknesses that help them level the plane. What a strange visual for this It's just Talking extremely slowly He's slowed it really far down. Just look at this. If there's anything I learned from watching the nine main star wars films It's that the empire first order didn't learn a goddamn thing over 60 year time span Sure, it's great that our heroes can find my new weaknesses that help them level the plane Of one trilogy I get it over the fight. Why why did you Is this like I really couldn't be bothered to lift footage from the original trilogies. So Of course awakens like there's plenty of footage to use. It's still relevant. You just don't Fucking gave up Whatever Of course of three trilogies, especially this one. It's tiresome. We need to put some hold-on maneuvers Do some real damage. Let's marry brandy buck here. Seriously suggesting a strategy of mass suicide No Autopilot doesn't be suicide man That's that's what people say. It's like you think that people would do this like Yeah, I do and I think they would have droid pilots or autopilot or any number of things The point is it would be weaponized. It's not as kind of funny though. If it had to be done with a person He's just like, yeah, let's just get some suicide bombs in here. He's like, well Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I refuse to believe that Today we make our last stand Oh my god A million of these star destroyers shoot half a billion iron cannons at this small resistance force and somehow It's not a huge disaster for the resistance and that signal is coming from them I mean, they do lose I just I kind of agree It takes way too long for them to definitively lose when you've got like millions of huge cannon and whatever Yeah, you think that charging in their head first is just like instant death There's a superchild that just came in asking if I was serious or sarcastic when I said the ghost Who can physically manipulate objects because he's on that island. I am being sarcastic I think it's a weak ass defense When they just wanted to do some tizmy things in their film to do with the force ghost affecting Stuff, but What can I say like, you know, it's like, yeah, you could be a force ghost wherever you want But if you want to be able to pick stuff up enlightening strike things you have to be on up to it's like, oh All right, then I wonder what the The limit is like under house arrest like the second you step off the island You no longer have powers. What if you have half of your force ghost Outside of it in half in Is it just the island or is it like the whole planet? So you're left half for your right half that gets to that point. Can we move the planet? Or like a lot of force ghosts like team up on like When like like generate like some sort of massive force power on someone else They combine all of their lightning together in a giant beam that spreads across the galaxy and destroys everything because Fuck it. There's no point anymore They're very nihilistic Oh, yeah, that's the movie I want That command ship that's our drop zone How do you know? They're writing at least we know what exactly what he means when he says sigh Horse thing in the same way just on top of a spaceship. Hey boss. How big do you want to make that face hucker throne? Your hatred your anger You want to kill me That is what I want I feel like in star wars episode 18 we'll be seeing this exact scene yet again because star wars never changes But it'll be right after disney hands the reins of star wars to cal l cage Who will make episode 17 using motion capture on his 85 year old dad to play every single character of the movie including the werewolves This is a I don't have anything to say about that. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah, it's just all over the place Sure. Yeah, using it as like an originality or like I mean, I don't disagree with him He's supposed to be a joke, but I think it gets to a real point They're gonna milk I'm still having a hard time figuring out why finn can just kneel out in the open like this and not get shocked weak like your parents My parents were strong Jedi skip again with Huh? I don't know what that means. I don't know what he was referring to I think he does skip when there's something that's just boring or that you can just move on from I I don't really agree with him though. That's okay Yeah, because I was gonna say that actually peaks my interest when watching this when she's like my parents like He's actually like what what does she think what this is information about the one thing? This trilogy was all apparently about she's like my parents were strong. It's like, oh well, I mean Okay All right, look at the ships as your friends are dying routine. This guy has one stick one He will take our revenge This whole setup seems phony and the original trilogy we could actually see loop getting angrier Slipping into the dark side seemed to be a possibility even though we do it wouldn't happen Rey has never really seemed like the angry type the emperor really seems to think sitting on this throwing out in the unknown regions Who's super appealing enough to sell your soul? Yeah, I agree. I don't see any Reason in any way shape a form that ray would go to the dark side. It doesn't make sense to me Yeah, there's no connection. No real desire. No There's no line between what she wants and how the dark side can get her there and there's nothing pushing her Okay, this is probably the coolest scene in the movie But even with the dyad nature How is this possible the way this has worked throughout the last couple of movies as they can talk to each other Read each other's thoughts even grab things in front of them and even see images of things that might be around them But when did they perfect this wireless transfer of lightsabers even if this is possible Wouldn't you need to work on this wouldn't require just a tad of training to do this in such a Cinematically pleasing manner. Kylo's actually um Yeah, I think that it's kind of the fact that this is A thing they could do period is like, oh All right Yeah, and I just don't think that they've had enough communication to perfected this thing I don't see how also. I guess it explains why Luke had her bring it to the lightsaber what she already had one. I guess he'd do that. This would be a sedario Good old Luke That's actually true Surely some should have turned up to be able to be like, hey Poe we're arriving because not like all of them would have arrived that very second because if they did That means they'll travel through the space cat's role at the same time, which is possible Well, they could have just gone around it Yeah, you'd think they would do that but uh, because it's just a tiny little thing Just not something you can do you have to have a thing to guide you through it. You have to go that way Or you have to follow the exact step to something else already went through it with it It makes sense Depending on you Lando snap was depending on you also how the all these assholes navigate that narrow and twisty hellscape That you have to go through to get here I really do think some of these dicks have been sitting here for a long time waiting for Lando to make his grand entrance Lando the emperor with considerable power at his fingertips says I'll let gravity decide this I'm taking a sit off because this is no right It is I mean if that was your attitude Why wouldn't you just be like cinema wins where everything's a win? Yeah, it's all great. Everything's great. It's all so wonderful The full of that and even when rey using lightning It's just like he's he's he's winning the film for lightning essentially and it's like, okay But lubey should consider it self lucky that I'm still awake right now to even see it This is a nice pep talk from all the jedi ghosts And it gets rey back up on her feet But what I really want at this point is for all these boys to get off their lazy asses and fight because that's the problem Was showing ghost luke grabbing a lightsaber earlier. He opened up the possibility of dead jedi coming to the fight I don't want it to happen on a larger scale now. This whole lubey is fan service Why can't there be ghosts of all our favorite jedi kicking ass in the end? Half leia and luke fighting the emperor as far as I wasn't at the original Yeah, as far as I know that that was the thing that was gonna happen So Discretion decided against it Not a theorize that it like it was changed in the edit like that It might have been a reshoot the whole like double-bladed lightsaber thing or like two lightsabers Movie once again star wars finds a loophole and he killed the emperor but become evil rule They set up this impossible thing where if you kill the emperor no matter your level of anger You become a dick like he does so in return of the jedi d'arth vader throws him down a shaft So luke doesn't have to do it and this one I guess it's because the emperor's own lightning is melting him Bullshit Yeah, it's obviously more shit if you want to call it a technicality fine But I still look retarded because it's not in the spirit of it all A little arrangement of killing the emperor and becoming the emperor doesn't work anymore. I see you. You do not I I guess we'll just forget about fin and jan on top of the falcon as it flies vertically away from this wreckage It's like I hopped in they hopped in it's totally fun. They have a strong foothold This kylo isn't dead scene might be more impactful if we actually knew how far he fell down this chasm of nothingness And how he even survived that Kylo's never used this power before so of course on the first try he resurrects ray from the dead Oh Wow, well Yeah, I almost forgot that he uh, he does he just forced spirits away Yeah What I mean, I don't get it either I'm so confused ray is like he falls like what and then she just disappears like what Yeah, what the fuck just happened Wait, I was gonna transfer my force heal to you Sure, and then that zaps him of all his life And she can't heal him back because she's too weak did she act too slowly when ray was dead Why didn't she just disappear did the force know that kylo was going to bend solo up the sith chasm to save her I guess no matter what happens anywhere. You can always see the aftermath from endor's forest moon somewhere Also, he walks. This is for you. Yeah, chewy Now you deserve only giving you one not because of anything you did in this movie But because of fan service seriously, I hope it's actually chocolate Now have a threesome ray skywalk Very strange and cinema sense, isn't he? Very odd quite unusual Um, but yeah, we have less to say on this stuff because we've kind of been over it with with wins in these individual scenes, so But uh, yeah, okay, this movie is pretty average. The ending is great Um, what oh really you thought that was good Oh, you thought that was good You thought it was great. Why really fucking great. Why what an insanely unpredictable man? Why? I Okay, no way. What no explain yourself. Why like I like all of that and this is great Is that was that a joke? I I s I don't know He took away no idea. He took. Yeah, he did take sins away. Isn't that how this works? Yeah, I don't think he was being sarcastic What how would you like the ending after all those criticisms he just made? That's weird. Maybe he liked the ending because it ended I like it in that respect, but that's I have no I'm I'd just be curious to see why he thinks that Yeah Make sure you click that bell icon No Ever watch another one of your videos Um, I think kills for the rest of this and then just put put some like the outtakes. So Yeah, his was the better video wins was the better one last time So I think without going super further into Loads different videos. It seems to be that would be the expectation depending on the film of the I don't know that one is any better than the other when it comes to Actually figuring shit out about films That's pretty much equal. It's like it depends on what's going on But like that's that's my trouble is that they make the same mistakes They have the same format and it's just it's just totally different But it's it's the same content basically We couldn't even like how long did we even go for on sins? We couldn't even last that long because we mostly Yeah, like I said 70 or 80 percent of his arguments were valid is like he didn't go into too much detail I wouldn't necessarily like call it a great video, but like at least he was being accurate for the most part So yeah, we took like one hour on him and we took like three and a half on wins so I guess that means it's better EFAP ratio Look at this molar I've been keeping a tally of real sins and wins and we reached 36 actual sins and one actual win I'm guessing that's for uh The the the the film itself and what we're conceding is wins and sins uh from these videos. I mean curious how much Oh, yeah, we've still got part two Well Considering wins is already losing He could come back. He could come part two could be great. How long says part two? 27 minutes. Oh my god Oh, no, I don't think I've got another five hours in me Oh, well, I mean he's been over it once right? This is gonna be fast. I'm sure of it The story could rise. I'm sure of it. I whispered right Uh Hi, I wrote a whole 500 word intro type thing like I did for part one and completely scrapped it because I realized I was just saying the same things again to people who were never going to hear me So instead I'm just gonna say this again every movie is at least one person's favorite And I want to try to figure out the reason for this and I'll add something I've said before Answer the question. Did I have fun? Sometimes the only positive thing that comes out of a movie is gondrovolta Or anything in a Dutch angle and that might have been enough for you. I'm doing it again I don't I don't know how to be brief. Stop. Stop part two part two starts part two. You're gonna hate it Oh, he's so So He knows he knows he's making bad arguments this I I hate this I I hate how he said He called it out. He said he was gonna make bad arguments before So That means it's okay when he does So there You'll say I've been a star wars fan for most of my life and it's very clear to me now that we put these movies on a much higher pedestal than we should No, speak for yourself. Disagree. Disagree completely. Yeah, I've I'm very lenient with star wars if anything, honestly Pedestal for a reason man. These these movies mean a lot to a lot of people and they're very well made at least Cot they So much bad wanting things to make sense is not something like oh, I give that to star wars. I don't put that on anything else One second into the video and he's already pushing the ot long He's already saying like hey the ot sucks. This movie's okay. I mean if you were right Let's say the ot was terrible. We only liked it because it was old I suppose he would want to appeal to that. He'd be like guys why are you being so harsh to one and not the other boo? But um, yeah, we're not in that world. I'm sorry. Yeah Myself included I have more runtime invested in this franchise I don't want to belabor this but the force is a deus ex machina. It always has been No This this movie The sequel trilogy and to some degrees to prequels, but really it's just the sequels made it before it is it It's what made it a deus ex machina whenever you need something to happen. No other than force You don't get to take that and push that on the ot You don't get to do that and just say like oh, it was always this way. It wasn't always this way What was the first use of the force? Was it the mind trick in a new hope? No, wait, wait, we wouldn't have been able to use it, right? I think first use of no, he's forced choked somebody before that, right? Um, did he lift them up and chokes him with his hand, doesn't he? I'm trying to think well. No, no, I mean during the Vader He he chokes he force chokes the dude in before obi one uses the mind trick. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah Um, yeah, I think so. So what I'm trying to figure out here is we're told telekinesis and Mind trick and if you were to try and say see the mind trick one only happened as a deus ex machina to get them out Of that situation. I'd be like, no, they wrote themselves into having to deal with that so Is no Like it wasn't a cause and effect that they ended up getting in this situation in a corner And now they need a brand new power. It's just like nige says it has an effect on the weak minded and that that'll pay off later in different ways um think for telekinesis and then I'm trying to think of what else Yeah, like that's the thing after that like you set that as a rule and then like from there on out You basically play by those rules with the force and that's that's exactly what they did an empire strikes back when um Luke picks up the lightsaber. He reaches for it at the wampa cave and Gets him out. That's not just that doesn't come out of nowhere for for him to get out of the wampa cave They've established the telekinesis of some sort exists as long as you can tap into the force Then Luke uses force choke on the weird big guards uses mind trick on the in the palace users kind of think of other instances Force jump instead of a return of the jedi instead of the throne room That's no there's some force jumping a belief instead of the cloud city fight. Yeah, there is one in empire. Um But again, that's an extension of as far as i'm concerned If you can use the force to propel yourself or push things away or grab things and of course you could enhance your jump I don't see how that's not an extension Pretty reasonable um We'll say like lightning kind of comes out of nowhere for the emperor that that's like a force power It's like where did this come from? I'm like, I think it's reasonable. It's like a it's a dark side power For a guy who's so powerful with him like it kind of establishes That this is a guy who's a cut above anything else Yeah, and I wouldn't say it's convenient to anything like he could just be strangling luke with the force or whatever He doesn't have to be using lightning. It's just that's what he's using. It doesn't it doesn't really make it's not the same as Oh, no, we're drowning use force oxygen We were just like wait what force oxygen what the fuck is that? Which is what this film does by the way A lot it's like hey this force power now So we just need something quick. I guess so in response to this argument I would say even if it were in any of these scenarios That we determined. Oh, it is kind of deus ex mark and we kind of be like this is way worse This is scaled up to like insane levels where there's some hot garbage of writing Yeah, at this point battle strategies are being formed around feelings It's ridiculous And it's the definition of plot convenience. It's part of the fun at the end of empire luke was cooked So kazdan and luke's force x marketed him right on out of there Well in finnish, we already had obi one talking to luke in his mind You could you could definitely extrapolate some kind of force connection that you can speak to people or whatever Reaching out to leia Well, it's it plays into her being force sensitive as well, which is a reveal. Yeah, they are related I mean, I guess he's saying like yeah, but they weren't related originally I'd be like yeah as long as the story makes sense. It doesn't have to have been there the whole time It was as painfully obvious Yeah, well, this is what I mean. It's just like this is so lame. I can't believe we start with like But the ot though yeah The other thing is is that the It was luke like specifically trying to reach out. It wasn't like the force just coming in and saving him Like he was actually using he was actually Using his agency Not just Well, I assume that's his argument Is that characters will just have the abilities they need to at the time they need them when they haven't even been mentioned before But I still think like all of these ones are being drawn out of what we knew from a new hope Yeah, yeah, and you know to mention the idea of um, like seeing into the future I don't know. I don't remember the exact dialogue Doesn't he kind of mention like being able to see other things kind of bit of a connection with leia um He definitely mentions the future. I think he says something like it's unclear or uncertain or something Wow, this stuff to work with this isn't just you know, we we've done it They hadn't even decided they were related yet luke's sister yoda's there is another was originally planned to sustain a lone character for jedi who fuck is It all works. We're judging what it is not what it was going to be Yeah, it doesn't contradict itself later on so it's fine This shit you didn't wasn't always going to be this though It's like okay But because lucas had had it with star wars What was the prop george and didn't want to make the next trilogy so they just made leia his sister The original plan was actually to have the emperor not show up until nines. So Yeah, we got there. No, but there was me there was him getting blowed up before then I was gonna say I like that. He's like, oh, this is where we're at So it's just like oh, yeah, you know when they changed their mind lots of other things happened Lots of things that make it so that this shouldn't be happening But okay, oh the original plan was that he shows up in episode nine Well, yeah, well what we got he got exploded twice in the death star part two fitness rags Don't even explode it twice. Oh, like he was exploded three times I guess it wasn't enough wasn't enough massive vaporizing explosions Why do you think they got blasted with his own force lightning as well as all the rest of it? It was that was it. That's what needed to happen him blowing himself up It whenever he's blowed up by someone it doesn't count I've seen it coming All that to say I also have had it with making star wars videos not because I don't like the movies But well, I think you figured it out at this point But I do want to start with some of the stuff I didn't like wait when you said I think you figured it out Does he mean people's response to his opinions? So what are you saying? Oh, yeah, and I hate him for making bad videos Oh I hate this. I hate these types of arguments. They are They're so nerve. Wow. You can't just let him enjoy something. Why'd you have to be so mean? Sorry, dude people will be mean to you and they will scrutinize you and you make fallacious arguments and you get information wrong But he was only in this for the positive He only wants people saying he did good work and he has good explanations. That's what he's here for He's not here for the mean stuff That's how that works, right? We can the one we sign up for youtube we we can check the box that says only nice things, please Man, I forgot to check it. I did. Oh shit clicked on it So much simpler it's so fucked up because he he checked that box and yet people look at look at heaven Just saying these mean things Sorry the main thing I don't like about this trilogy is the same thing most people don't like Disney well it starts with disney I've never held my opinions back about studios and while there are individuals at disney who care Of course the money printing machine gets final say that and in of itself is enough to turn people off star wars And I don't blame you for that one bit. It's still my opinion that jj arums cares about star wars And I can't pretend to know what happens when you answer to the mouse It's easy to blame jj for the amount of fan service But that's a that fan service storm trooper helmets and the death star makes sense though That's not yeah, I don't The death star is fan service storm trooper helmets being in the death star. It's like well, I mean I don't get the connection between fan service and money. What is he going for here? He's like saying corporations like seek to make money. That's the final say But he says there's also like heart in the the creators or I'm a bit lost so he's so he's saying like disney bad because They permeate through all of these productions in different ways one of them being fan service And then he's like caveat you could totally blame jj for that too, which is true jj pushes for all kinds of fan service That's his whole thing I hope This certainly matters who you blame the issues. Yeah, that's why i'm at That's why when he said like my big problem with this trilogy disney. It's like, oh you're going meta I thought we were talking about the actual stuff Not like why the stuff happened. He's not capable of talking about things that actually occur on the screen Disney's primary market strategy across the board. We often conflate writing fan service with lazy writing I'm not saying they're mutually exclusive just that fan service doesn't immediately make something lazy I'm true. I guess I wouldn't categorize them as the same thing. Yeah Yeah, they often overlap. They're often used as substitutes for one another You know if if you've got a good script and you're good at writing You can put little callbacks to previous movies and little bits of fan service in so that it doesn't detract from the story You're telling and that's perfectly fine. It's just when you rely on that for for basically most of your entertainment value Then you've you've got a shit screenplay on your hands If you're writing sequels, you better have some callbacks Three of your bigger role in love journey in this movie wasn't just fan service It progressed the story and honestly having him bumble around as a comic relief was nice It progressed the story arbitrarily You decided that you came up with all of these incredibly convoluted ridiculous things to make him a part of the story Progressing the story is not inherently a positive. It progresses the story like contrived and like That would be like the death star wasn't fan service because we needed it for the plot and it's like whoa Yeah, 90% of this story is just we've got to find a thing to get us to the next thing to allow us to get to the next thing Like it's just finding stuff to get you to the next step and that's not really a story. That's just our Yeah, chicken series of boxes. Basically. Why do you think he facilitates one of those steps? Why do you think uh ray is in the first film? It's not fan service like we know that because we never fucking seen it before. Why is han there? It's like it was probably fan service, but can they make it meaningful? No, why is the death star in the background of the shot? It's like fan service It was like could we make it meaningful? No It got vaporized. Yeah, it glowed up into smithereens Yeah, something can make sense and like be fan service but still be implemented well like characters like that han coming back could have been done Right, you can have a character who's like been in the previous films and like them returning you could lights like it's fan service But it's like how does it serve the story? It's like could be done right or it can be done poorly There's also jj's course correction of ryan's film some things are more easily explained than others This was cheeky, but it's still the continuation of luke's arc in last jedi What's he saying now? No So he's saying like part of the problem with the trilogy is the course correction, but some things are easily explained compared to others This he needs to focus he's trying to say these are the problems with the trilogy disney also jj's fan service Secondly course correction, even though some of it's fine It's like why don't you just be clear stick to work when to build an argument. Don't just jump around Also jj fixed kylo's helmet that ryan smashed luke's lightsaber hold open maneuvers and obviously raise parentage ryan was smart to not close the door as far as ryan was concerned. He did close the door Oh, she damn well tried he tried to close everything to make sure that there was no way to continue it That's why he broke the lightsaber and everything doesn't say the hold over there was an open door. It's like no, it's not They fucking died They they pried it over with a crowbar and said it was one out of a billion ryan was probably the cinema like what? One out of a billion You can't fuck it up. You just ram another ship raised Having a manipulative bad guy deliver the news isn't what i'd call empirical evidence. Yeah, okay That was that was obviously what ryan was going for not that kylo was being he kylo had no reason to lie Besides it's not um It doesn't do anything Like if you're gonna try and pretend from he didn't even know this by the way If you remember kylo asks the emperor who raised parents were at the beginning of tross So in this scene We are now supposed to think that kylo doesn't know who her parents were But he just wanted to tell her that they were nobody's who left it for drinking money Or sold it for drinking money. I don't know like why did he do that to make her feel bad? Yes, so that she would all her previous Beliefs about where she comes from and what she's aiming towards or shattered and taken away from her And she believes that she's unwanted and she has nothing and the only person that does want her is him I guess that was meant to be his plan. So if I deprive her of every outside support. I'm all that's left It's still a shit plan, but that's it turns out it pairs and dead So it's just like it's a distinction without a difference almost in this position She's still not going to be able to meet them or whatever. I guess the the comeback is that she can remember them being strong They they left her in a in a slave position with uncarplut because they were strong Those we're just gonna avoid those details to a degree Yeah, I just just care we just gotta get through this But um, yeah, uh, the thing is he describes this as not empirical evidence like the idea that this wasn't definitive And I would just be like it's a film you can literally like undo whatever you want and as far as I'm concerned the holder maneuver is the perfect example of that It's it's it's a shame that nothing is in concrete when you have a crazy sequel writer, but look at what Ryan did to jay-jays work Look lalalalala. I'm gonna blow this up Weather for example, by the way, I could make episode 10 and uh raise, you know fucking 50 years old or some shit And then some old wise Not green not orange a purple alien This short little purple alien like ray It wasn't palpatine. He lied. That wasn't your grandparent And neither was the people who gave you up. They weren't your parents either. It's this whole other thing Now lied to you. It was actually the stevensons. They live down the street from me They've been looking for you for a long time. There is one man who knows your lineage His name is edward ren. You must find Edward ren I don't care at this point Edward ren though. He had a son. He must find him right find him find your son Find edward ren. Yeah for palpatine to be Ray's grandpa from the beginning. Is it minimum debatable? I very seriously doubt it because this is what I think about like like first movie this x is y second movie I was lying third movie. I wasn't lying fourth movie. I know I was lying You just let the hot snake Yeah, like at a certain point nothing has any meaning anymore because you know it can all just be changed in the next film About it But also it's not such a complex idea that it's hard to believe that it didn't get floated in a planning meeting for force awakens I'm sure they floated the idea of palpatine coming back probably just along with all kinds of other ideas like mace wind you're gonna be a main character or Will dexter jets to really make his comeback for a star wars solo movie. I don't know He's going to turn the entire universe into a diner We have to stop him There's a bit why you shouldn't be addressing the meta stuff because like anything could have happened in the rider's room Yeah, this is what I mean. It's kind of a waste We haven't planned out the trilogy the internet nerds like me can't predict it except they did anyway The emperor is snoke actually was one of the first people making enough guesses Somebody will predict even the most batshit insane. I was gonna say who cares people predicted any of this everyone predicted everything Remember how major lee was like I predicted That ray's parents should be nobody that turned out to be true and no one had predicted it. It's like Have you Now he's wrong. Yeah And this whole thing he's showing the emperor is snoke actually It's like, yeah, if you would have told me that I would have said it's fucking insane because of how Silly and incredibly ridiculous. That is my response would be I hope not I fucking hope sure enough. They went there. The disney went there Everybody out there is like, hey, I was right and it's like what does that matter? What does it matter if someone is right or wrong about a form query that they make people come up with all sorts of ridiculous Yeah, but but the story Maybe the story was garbage and it was terrible And it has tarnished the brand star wars forever. However No one saw it coming Disney I'm talking to you now. We really wish you had planned out this trilogy from the beginning Before a single actor was cast just a storyboard outline a list of key plot I'm not sure that it would have mattered because ryan clearly wanted to make his own story Yeah, I mean, yeah, they did have an overarching story plan because jj handed off like his his notes for the next movie to ryan And ryan just said nah, it's fine. I'll just do my And I think jj was like, well whatever shout on my story because he wasn't involved in the third one at first And they were like pleased to be involved in it and so he was like great So I got a piece together the mangled remains of my story Yeah Gave me my baby back, but it was just It's just I think do you recognize it? It's just it boggles the mind like if ryan really wanted to do his own story where he wasn't constrained by like a previous film Why not just give him one of the solo films? Like why not let him just do a standalone star wars adventure And that can be his own little sandbox Like why give him the middle film of a trilogy? Points an overarching theme. Can you can do that next time? Please then stay the course as much as you think the surprise is the most important thing to us It isn't empires twist is great one of a kind Do you know how many people have been surprised by that twist in the last 40 years? Not one person who saw tommy boy I am your father We still watch it. It was ruined for me by another thing. It's different Popular spoiler. Yeah, it's like yeah a lot of people know that machine is going to guess your plots It usually means your story holds up. I've said it in every video Yeah, that's a good point a fool after force awakens that you must have because it would be and now is a travesty that you didn't I also know that writing a script for one movie is hard enough as it is A new hope is a perfect example of why planning anything out can be nearly impossible The original screenplay george lucas wrote for a new hope is unrecognizable from the finished product We got the process that most things go through actually Yep More people involved and more people to answer to doesn't make that an easier people get mad when I say this But lucas had no clue luke lea invader were related to wrote a new hope Why do people get annoyed when you say that? Yeah The thing man It literally happens in all media like even videos being made on youtube Like you might throw a joke in on one of your final drafts and then it's like one of the all the top comments Are about how great that one joke was and you're like, huh wasn't even planning on putting it in It can happen Ben calls anakin darts Doesn't that make sense because that makes sense though. He's like Darth Vader now You're not anakin. He's making a point to refer to him as a dot a doth rather than anakin Ben doesn't even think he could be saved as far as I can recall, right? Is that instead of trying to He's he's more machine number than man twisted and evil. Yeah, I don't see why that's not. Yeah, that's not an issue That's like calling count to count almost like in a dismissive your evil sort of way. I don't know Even though account is not I'm sure they're playing nice counts out there. Yeah, like the count Right now what he's doing He's laying this out. He's saying like the the ot like had a lot of issues in production He's like this movie had issues in production too. They're the same All of these videos fucking do we saw this with tlj endlessly is oh, but before we talk about the the actual movie The ot was bad too guys Guys remember when talking about the lightning originally on arc 2 Quinton's defense of that was well obi-wad sat on a log in the original trilogies Fuck off Face through the grass like the grass movement. It's like you gotta be kidding me You see he fires this lightning and he hits luke in the face with his cane. It's not the same thing So what I told you was true From a certain point of view I think that that dialogue could be worked on but I actually do think it's consistent with obi-wan that he wouldn't want Luke to know that that's his dad and that because it would fuck up his ability to defeat him Yeah, I think that they were manipulating luke to a degree instead of the ot with the empire strikes because they knew that Vader was father But so they didn't want him to know because they were worried that that would affect him They they basically wanted them to be raised to potentially kill him and bring balance to the force again Yeah Yeah, I'm just I just think the dialogue could be a little easier than from a certain point of view Sounds almost frilly Dude, you you lied A certain point of view JJ deliberately left a lot open ended so that his story could work in hindsight given various writing paths JJ tried to tie it together with software I don't like that idea that is you that's like giving Oh, that is being so insanely generous. Yeah It's like ah tfa is this hotbed of creativity that you can jump off in so many different directions It's like no it killed a lot. It murdered a lot horribly It's also fucking nonsensical itself, but you know It worked for the story if there is connective tissue in the trilogy It's how ray fits in and what that means to her and JJ didn't want to wipe the anyway. That's a win It's a win I forgot we were even doing wins. Oh, are we doing wins? Yeah Um, okay, but it can be a Jedi statement from last Jedi away So Finn that wasn't from the last Jedi stop say stop put this fucking stupid Idiotic notion that the last Jedi invented the idea that anyone could be a Jedi That's such garbage nonsense people give tlj credit for that Like why because you saw a kid with a fucking broom Hey, man I don't know why so many people are inspired by the last Jedi alone They're like the last Jedi is the film that tells you anyone can be special No, the ot said the same thing. It's like no, the ot said it was about bloodlines. No, it didn't No, it did not at all. I mean it It bothers me that like the idea like we're supposed to look at the ot now as being like there are superior genes in our gene pool and that we Should all Want to I don't know procreate with those guys to get more force users. Yeah It's like I don't know it doesn't even make sense If the force is everywhere like it's all a part of us part of living things like why would it make sense that it's only with certain bloodlines How do you explain Anakin? And again, I'm willing to to agree that it's uh more potent with certain bloodlines because they I don't know The the increased sensitivity or whatever more potency whatever like all whatever words you want to use but the idea that there's like You could you have to be a part of a family In order to nah nah Ran Johnson actually referenced the same thing with like a ratatouille, but he gets it completely backwards like he's he says um anybody can be a anyone can cook But the meaning behind it is a a a good cook can come from anywhere Like that's that's exactly what what the original trilogy was talking about is that it's not Anybody, you know, you just pick anybody random person out of the crowd anybody can do that it's Well, the opportunity is there for anybody. Yeah, who has the ability to do it You know another film that did that really well kung fu panda I've thought about that a lot recently The the theme of that film is essentially there is no secret ingredient and the nice thing about Zark inside of that film is that he trains for it He trains and he believes that there's going to be something that essentially like unlocks his abilities He's going to be more special and at the end of the film he realizes there's no there's nothing It's like it was it was all about like him training and it like him growing up It's like that's that I think is what the secret trilogy tried to do right It's like it's it's the same concept of like anyone can be anything But it's just like there's training involved. You see the hardship and you don't That's that's the key difference like if any of them actually had to work for these abilities then great Okay, we could buy into that but then you get ray Well, I think people like last year It's because no one has to work inside of that movie It's like anyone anyone is special and you don't work for it And it's like that appeal to people Yeah, you just get free stuff given to you Moments feeling okay, but in hindsight raise quick uptake of force ability makes sense for palpatine's descendant part of being a Jedi is that it takes What about our parents? Our parents were apparently no bodies They just happened to be related to palpatine almost But they don't actually have any abilities of their own They weren't force sensitive as far as this is the interesting part The idea that you have the ability to sort of move stuff if you're a palpatine you could probably move bigger things faster Okay, and then it's like okay, what about mine tricks that she just randomly learns like oh well She's a palpatine. It's like no, no, no, that's the knowledge part. That's the training part Like the it's the only part of it that we want to stay that way because otherwise it becomes lame It's just like oh no you just know all this stuff Are you just really good at it if you've got the right blood? It's like I mean like Luke was a Skywalker, but like He still had to work to learn how to do things the first movie did was moving something very small a meter like yeah, that's not So very impressive. I mean, you know when we look at Rey moving them boulders Like it's nothing. Yep. Yeah lifting rocks No effort at all peace when someone gets to skip the hard work and knowledge acquisition and gets all the benefits of power That's how you get a she know No, he was like very explicit that he was taught everything he knew That his I unfortunately told his apprentice everything he knew then his apprentice killed him in his sleep on the On the references to train. I could have sworn palpatine mentioned. He was trained. He wasn't he just he was That later he said my mentor taught me everything about the force even the knowledge of the dark side. Yeah Trained he says it explicitly. That's not how you get a sheath at all Reyes and Mary Sue because she this Throughout her story Rey is drawn to the dark side because it's easier and because she's so powerful the same Rey's drawn to the dark side because she's so powerful those that's not No No Where was she even drawn to it? Once apparently in the cave where she was trying to ask the stupid magical mirror who had parents were That's the dark side. Apparently. Yeah, because they're equating it with the cave on digger. Your parents are I don't because she went down a spooky dark anus. That's why it's the dark side. You can't flirt with the devil like that Anakin was drawn to the dark side through a combination of like his own insecurities and his fears of losing Padme and his Impatience and his arrogance You know Rey doesn't have any of that because she's not allowed to have those kind of flaws Like she doesn't when it comes to using the force. She doesn't have any personality whatsoever She doesn't want to use it for anything. She doesn't want to expand her abilities It just kind of happens whenever the plot needs it to happen well Do you remember a cosmonaut variety? I said that they're all Mary Sue's Obi-Wan Luke Anakin they're all Mary Sue's so I mean for rey. She'd be like dark side. I don't need that shit. What is that gonna do for me? Yeah, I don't why would she need it? That's not gonna help me do the right thing Fuck that noise Anakin it's more than just the power going to his head It's that he was being told he was as powerful as Yoda But he wasn't whatever enough to be a Jedi master Submit you most powerful force user we've ever come across Rey was probably lucky that her force power only showed up as an answer to the guy with evil tattooed on his face Rey's first usage of force ability was after she instinctively resisted kylo for the first time He unlocked her power by trying to probe her mind He's adopting the retarded novelization thing My god, why why do you think this is well written? What the fuck? No Which think about it like this if no one had ever pushed you down before the first time someone pushes you You're gonna fall over then they push again So she becomes the most powerful Jedi that ever existed False equivalency. He's requiting this to people Yeah, to use this guy's analogy That'd be like if someone pushes you over and you do the most insane kung fu fight in imaginable Just a through instinct and beat the crap out of them and 25 other people with them She overpowers kylo fucking rent. He's been taught by snook and luke at this point. This is insane Later on she like lifts the lightsaber He's like trying as hard as he can to lift it and then she like overpowers his force pull when he'd stopped a blaster pull before It's horrible You know what happens and you know how to stop yourself from falling eventually you learn that if you push back You can even knock them over for the dyad to super force powerful people force abilities presented pretty much like that for them Okay, they're just powerful. That's just how it works and that's how that's how it's explaining that she beat him because they're both in the dyad That doesn't make sense Fucking made that shit up And they only made it up in the episode nine He's acting like this is continuous throughout the entire trilogy. Yeah, this is the dyad thing. Was it in the first two? What are you talking about? Fuck it's No, this is not yeah People because we go to luke and anakin. We're all supposed to be the peak of force ability So I understand why I may not help anything. No Someone's gonna surpass them. They need to fucking earn that shit. Yep. Yep We want to be more powerful than luke. They don't need to be the I think just give to them Many of people who are powerful in the force and the prequels. Yeah, the rags the dyad I guess the dyad and force magic You think the force is in that make sense if you don't die Just pretend that you always wanted the dyad nailed us Another example is the Han Leia kylo scene I'm not at all saying that jj wrote this scene with this scene in mind not even close For all we know Harrison Ford improvised this touch That doesn't mean it's unreasonable to read it as a loving touch and now with this new scene We know I interpreted it as what the fuck man I have a new framing for it from ben's perspective Han touching his face now makes that one deliberate It's gonna say this isn't meaningful because it's just ben being like Ben talking to ben Telling himself what he wants to hear I have a good person I remember after I stabbed you that you were like, uh, it's cool, bro Like now people stab their fathers all the time is the biggest gesture was important I even realized after watching my video back a few days later that even I underplayed the importance with our new framing Han is instrumental in turning kylo to the force Okay, you emphasized it pretty Han is instrumental in turning kylo to the light I love this logic as he's showing us a clip of kylo having fucking stabbed Han like memory What are you on about it's kylo who's turning kylo to the light by that logic He's trying to say that when han put his hand on kylo as he was dying in his head He was like this will be the seed that is planted that will turn you good one day. Bye Light that act of love that moment where kylo thinks he's won He sealed his dark fate was actually the complete opposite once he remembered it from ben's perspective Han said no, there's nothing you can do that will make me stop loving you Yeah, that's the face of I will never stop loving you. Do you see that shit? Yeah, that's that's what that means. No, there's nothing you can do that will make me look at that face Yeah If that's not an I love you listen if you ever Let's say next next time you're on a date And or maybe with your your parents your significant other your spouse When you tell them I love you I want you to make this face I want you to look at him right in the eye preferably when it's dark and get up really close to him And just say I love you and give him this face. Give me all Solo I Right here as as I see you summed up. I love you. You killed me though That's this face. Oh, yeah, I love you, but hey, that's kind of mean Let me stop loving you after re showed him love He couldn't deny and did not understand the entire encounter was reframed in his mind This isn't anything new screenwriters and novelists alike will very often hit points in the future of their stories that change the context of the past Even to the point where they'll go back and rewrite stuff. Sometimes the story Yeah, you're talking about redrafting at that point, which is kind of what these films do to each other It's sort of like panic scrapping of old stuff to try and to turn it into something coherent Also, he's referring to the death of the author. We're talking about the death of continuity not the author Like the actual content is being overwritten for example one in a million Again, the whole idea of death of the author is kind of the way of interpretations and like readings into films But he's not talking about readings because he's like arguing and all this makes sense That builds on each other and it's a cohesive trilogy. It's like you don't use death of the author when you're arguing for like mechanics The death of the author is also nothing new and is debated constantly It's another reason that objectivity can be difficult when discussing art How much does intent matter for me? None of it's I don't care about a tent. We don't care about a tent. We just care about what is I'm interested to know what the author says here in there, but it's not going to be the deciding factor for anything really Yeah, it's like this um when they did that behind the scenes like documentary about the making of tros and it was like Um, yeah, there's so many people put so much work into all of this. It's like, I don't care if they end product shit Like you know the set designers the costume people they might have worked their asses off, but like who cares Yeah, I mean I could work really hard to create a torture device for somebody that last 10 years It's like I worked really hard on that Okay Someone in chat said JJ already said there wasn't any plan. So all of this is wrong well, um What's your name Daisy Ridley said the she uh knew of like a Outline for the whole trilogy but that Ryan scrapped it. It was from JJ. He couldn't use the plan that he had I mean, obviously the way to defend this trilogy right now would be to invent a through line or several through lines He's doing his best. It's just not gonna work though Yeah, and he's talking about artistic intent here I like I think the perfect example of that is the whole like what it was Finn going to say to Ray before like They fell into quicksand. It's like you have you have what JJ said That's like what you can go out out for artistic intent But like we just have the film and the film didn't say anything during any time. It's a set up in the pail So that's that's objectivity that that and that goes outside of death as the author. That's why like artistic intent doesn't really Collusive this makes me feel stuff with zero context. This objectively makes sense because it's been established. They can pass No He believes in objectivity. Are you seeing he he believes that there's such a thing is good and bad And that like he thinks these films make sense. I just like the this objectively makes sense I would be like do you want to talk about the things that objectively don't make sense, buddy? No, okay From oh look, there was some rain on his hand that implied some kind of physical connection Therefore they can at will pass light sabers to each other Whenever they want, I mean If it's getting rain on your face during that and literally teleporting a lightsaber Had the dice disappear the implication being whatever you pass through isn't actually there. It's like a hologram or whatever Wasn't that different though? Like the idea of like a force projection versus like the Yeah, I think you can assume that Associated with Luke was just a force projection. Obviously when he died then everything he projected also passed away Although it didn't really happen at the same time. Well, yeah What was the point in uh in Kylo having water on his hand was that to establish that they could touch hands later in the thing? Was that the reason for that? Yeah, there was no payoff from what I remember It was just a thing that happened I think it's the finger touching thing. There's It's like as well. Well when luke interrupted that scene he could see kylo physically sitting in that heart at the same time Yeah, but then he disappears once he says hey, don't do that. Yeah So I guess it was leading up to that maybe But either way like like we've there's no way they could have talked to each other about how this handoff was going to work Uh, so that's one thing and if you're gonna be like, I don't know their minds were in tune because they're a dyad They were facing in such a way that they were able to pass this through It's all it's all very up in the air like you'd have to make a couple things Fit very well in order to pass but even force teleporting shit is just frustrating to me And there's so many questions it raises like the idea of like can you bring someone in like there's so much that just like adds like How does this work? How does that work? It's just yeah, it's a matter to each other through space If you want to make an objective judgment on the efficacy of passing matter through space in star wars as it pertains to the force Good luck an empire vader senses luke from miles away, but when he's on the desk star in a new hope He's got no clue objective writing Um This is uh, this is a red herring about a movie that isn't the rise of skywalker anyway. Yeah, so what about this? Going to get that out of the way The is the ot flawed. It's like maybe it depends on what you're gonna present. Maybe it's flawed But it's a difference between sensing someone else in the force You take everything as they he senses obi one though and you could easily argue that that's completely overriding any sense of luke he has absolutely Doesn't he not care is it was he talking about the uh empire strikes back or Well, he's saying that he can sense him an empire strikes back So why can't he sense him in a new hope and he's showing a scene where vader says I sense a presence a presence I've not felt since and it's about obi one And he doesn't he doesn't even know about luke at that point Oh, wait, he's about to actually say it according to where we skipped Protected by obi one's presence, but he tortured his daughter and had no clue. She was his daughter Yeah, that's actually something that I think is a bit of an issue Yeah, yeah And I like the idea that it's like well, see this is our thing. We shouldn't even be entertaining this It's like come back come back come back come back to the rise of skywalker. You can do it Yeah, yeah, we don't think that the ot is flawless. We have never said that and this is a flaw for return of the jedi not a new hope um When you retcon something and it doesn't make sense that's on you rather than the thing that existed before I don't think it's fair That a new film could establish For example, I don't know that there's no oxygen in the death star or something that is like Yes, it makes no sense that all the people the death star are breathing you'd be like what the fuck that's not fair You can't just do that Writers can retcon reasons in so that it all makes sense but establishing this force power later Messes up the past does that mean a new hope is now back or is that one aspect of It means whoever Whoever created the fault is the one who should you know who's responsible for making the fault Does it make the whole thing bad? No, and I'm of the opinion that if Stick to You're going to talk about objectivity stick to the individual aspects. Don't worry about is The entire movie as a whole objectively good or bad. Does it cross that line? Stick to the little bits Stick to all the pieces stick to all the details and run that through It fascinates me. Okay. He is he seems on board with this, but like it just And he selected one problem and then he's like now let's go nuts. Did it break everything? It's like, well, why did you why? Why are you where are we going with this? You do one He knows the full well that there's like a billion problems with the sequel trilogy compared to the ot and he's like Yeah, but the ot still has some so They're equal, right He's using this metric for the ot you'd imagine he'd know how to use it for the sequels Why doesn't he feel they didn't feel stuff New hope I've already answered that the lack of planning is and was a problem. I'm just not convinced It's as easy to fix as we'd all like it to be after that. I think the biggest easy to do fucking better Than what they did we don't necessarily say to let the perfect already like However, the idea of like how easy is it to make disney? You know create some kind of plan or whatever. It's like, yeah I mean they probably shot themselves in the foot with with how they organize everything sure But that doesn't mean it changes what we think it is or what it is. Sorry The biggest thing that hurts this movie is pacing I know that some people would argue that it's writing and the writing has some problems for sure But it's the breakneck pacing It's the dumb convoluted plot that makes it worse Like when it's just macguffin after macguffin That's why the pacing is as it is because they're always having to do this thing and go to this place and get that And climb that mountain and scale this tower and always doing all this Yeah If you introduce that many plot elements within a set period of time the pacing is going to be dictated by that There's so much shit you have to do You're gonna be busy You got shit to do and even worse that can ruin a theater experience Like I just said, I love the entire scene starting with rey and kylo's fight through to ben throwing kylo's saber into the ocean But it all happens in eight minutes and that's with other quick scenes being intercut It took me three minutes to explore what was happening in the scene Whoa, it took him three minutes to explore that scene Wow A staggering I hope you didn't like calm down, mate Chillax Sit down Leave some for the rest of us Obviously, I didn't have all my thoughts fleshed out about that scene before the next scene started Like I just said earlier, it was still coming into focus more for me after I published part one So rushing through so much plot so much and then this happens makes it hard to process It's easy for me to brush it off in favor of a fun theater experience So now he's saying like a big problem with the trilogy is that it's pacing isn't great. It's like Well, we get back to the right. I know it's a lot harder for others Everyone has those moments in theaters when something happens and you just can't get past it I think people had a few of those in rise of skywalker So then that ruins any emotional impact the movie could have Something I do in favor of having a good theater experience is make that a problem for future Lee to figure out which sounds silly I know but to be honest for a long time as a You're fooling yourself in a learning I could barely sit through any movie without questioning things and ruining my own experience Just asking simple questions that usually had answers But because I missed something or didn't know I let it get under my skin I'm sorry So he's willing to assume that whenever he had a problem It was because he missed something rather than the problem existing and that we should all just whenever we detect a problem Be like, yeah, there's probably an answer for that. Just enjoy But I can't But that's not how brains work. No, it's not Well, I can't just they don't think about it. This is coming from the guy who said why don't you pretend that you like it That's yeah, that's not a thing you could do I mean, I guess you could you could pretend in an outward way To try and convince other people But you can't you can't fool yourself like that. No Why would you even want to like you either like something or you don't I don't never I don't ever understand the utility of trying to Force yourself to like something that you didn't What do you do by that? Unless you convince yourself of it or you're actually convinced by something or else. It's just it's meaningless I mean we watch movies to be entertained if they don't entertain us then they're not doing their job And it's like a movie doesn't serve a higher purpose than that Well, as he's about to say he made a concerted effort to stop doing it and now his brain immediately goes Oh, but maybe there's something more at stake You see if you turn off that cynical part of your brain lads, you'll start enjoying movies more I agree that if I stop using my brain more things will make sense. Yes On that we agree. I've like this line of Nonsense where it's like stop thinking so hard. It's like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take this from anybody It's just never gonna work. I'm not gonna stop thinking What the idea that I might find it more meaningful if I think less like fuck off I like feel a certain way. That's this trouble with the whole palpitating thing of just pretend you like it It's like I'm not gonna pretend that I feel a different way than I do What's on point? I made a concerted effort to stop doing that and now my brain immediately goes Oh, but maybe there's more at stake and the risk of all out war with the humans wasn't worth it to elrond. Oh boy. Here's Okay So he just said that that's a flaw. He's like like why why didn't elrond like fight him and and bring ceilidore to the the king of the humans, so At that point his dad had died I was starting to respect his decision Like it was like it was on him because he was the person who bared the ring and it was like he wasn't gonna force that Right. I think that's probably quite a formidable warrior in his own right and like he couldn't necessarily just push him in without him fighting back And potentially killing you that's what he said there as well as risk a war if he was to kill him But yeah elrond walks out and everyone's like wait a second two two people walked in elrond. Where where's where is our king? I don't know if he's saying people see this is a flaw in the film I I don't think it is if he's if that's what he's saying. I'm like there I hope not really And then I watch it again later to find out that my theory was at least marginally supported or entirely proven or What is this side note? I miss IMDb message boards so much that was the first place I would go off seeing a movie in theaters to see what people thought about the things I thought You can still do that like everywhere. Yeah, that's the the internet still does exist by the way Hmm I was wrong and it's a genuine problem in rise of skywalker I was hyper aware as the credits rolled that we never came back to what finn wanted to tell rey And after thinking about it and rewatching it it made sense to me that it was about her bloodline That doesn't excuse setting that up coming back to it multiple times and then dropping it It's either bad writing which I doubt for this specific instance. So finn was gonna tell her that She was a palpatine. Yep. It's all in inference though. Like you How does he know is he arguing this he's arguing this as if it makes sense But he's completely inferred that he said like it's about his bloodline. It's like what reference How does finn know that rey's a palpatine? Yeah, and why would he be like, oh, I don't want to tell you now I don't see this is the thing. It's like a classic when it's like that. There's something I wanted to tell you What you're about to die, which is I love you that sort of thing and then when you're not dead and everyone's fine It's like what we're gonna tell me it's like Uh Yeah, it's uh, we all know this one Ray, I was I'm force sensitive. Why are you telling this to me? What? So wasn't it uh, jj didn't he say that he was gonna he's gonna tell her he's full sensitive. That is apparently what he's gonna say It's really pretty competent when it comes to paying something simple like this off It's an easy way to make it seem like your story is all connected even if it isn't for this I have to assume it was cut because it didn't have the impact they wanted or just didn't matter anymore at the end And something that happens a lot when making movies is that your setups get intertwined with the vital parts of the plot or story So you're left with a choice but cut the setup that has a lackluster Let's invent several scenarios in which it was a reasonable thing to do that led to this perceived flaw That's what he's trying to say right now We sit like there's sure there's reasons for this and I guarantee that's exactly it I'm guessing in the editing room. It got left on the cutting room floor But like it doesn't excuse it Of the top 500 issues this film has that one's not even up there Like the idea that Finn never got to say what he was trying to say. It's like, yeah, I mean, there are way bigger issues in this film We're gonna say drink it Pay off and potentially break your entire story by losing something vital to everything making sense Or leave the setup in your story intact and just try to Jedi mind trick the audience into forgetting about this Not a good thing. It's not a good thing It's not something to be encouraged What a horrible message to send to your audience. Hey guys, what it fucks up just try to trick them Set up with fast pacing fast talking and fast cameras, but speaking of my theater experience full Disclosure, I went into this movie thinking there was a very good possibility the final twist of the saga, which would have been Bold to say at least was that Ben would be redeemed and I'd no doubt there's no I don't think there was any way they would have done that I don't see how you can be grateful the dock side. I don't see how you do it I don't think that from a like from a disney marketing star wars perspective They would do that And I think that's way too bold for them to do Also, I think that would be way too interesting despite how nonsensical it'd be so they definitely wouldn't do that There's no way I had I had no thought about that Could have been a good story if they'd done it right And I think done it across all three movies Yeah, I think most people were for the idea that Finn would become a Jedi and that rey would turn to the dark side And you'd have a bit of a crossover there like that that could be like rey would evolve into the villain Disgusting I had two theories. I like the idea of the villain Gradually turn into the light and the the hero gradually turned into the dark You know, you could do stuff with it Straight up switcheroo I knew that was an unlikely way to end the saga So theory two was that rey would deliberately embrace the emperor knowing that ben could kill her him all the sith and restore balance So like a sacrificial turn to the dark side and all of this was informed by the Dark side. No, really no Yeah, I feel like it's like If if it's required that you believe like in the dark side and want to embrace it then that wouldn't work with it Because you'd be like, yeah, totally You'd have to fool palpatine into thinking that you had turned to the dark side, but I feel like you'd be like no no you're not Saying the amount of negativity that I'd heard in the days leading up to seeing it in theaters That's right. I knew people were pissed so I assumed rey had to die and or turn bad I was prepared for that so in the end the more straightforward conclusion was a relief for me I already said I didn't love bringing the emperor back, but I pretty quickly shrugged and moved on You told yourself that you wanted it and then you liked it, right? It would be fetus. It's just like it's in the trilogy. All right, there's nothing I can do about it There's no reason to complain or it's in the movies. It's like a very mentally weak person With no like fortitude conviction Yeah, no conviction He is a billowing Read it just blowing in the wind week Watch these movies in 10 years aren't gonna know any different. Just like oh, they will know any different. What do you mean? I love the idea Skip for 100 years from now and you're like, I want to watch those stars movies chronological order for the first time ever And you watch four three four five six one two three seven eight and then you watch nine You're like the fuck palpatine's back and then he said they're like this happened 100 years ago Why'd you care? yeah Because I like stories what the fuck what When kids found out that luke and leia were brother and sister when they'd been secretly rooting for them to get together all along Throughout the next decade. They're gonna find new ways to justify the decision. They don't have a problem with that now, but it's okay People always reference the problem that they're getting over people always reference that though The fact that he just references it means that yeah, it's a bit awkward Nobody really denies that it's a bit awkward Yeah, but no one's gonna hold it against them I mean they could you can't assume that any random person let alone a princess is a blood relative of yours. Yeah It's obviously not their fault. They had no idea It's what we do we look for patterns and with my own hindsight I don't hate that. He's the big bad again. Okay, so I made some mistakes in part one that I wanted to correct They didn't land on kajimi with the falcon. They left that on pata wiener. Sorry Okay, I'll have a reen palomina. Pasana. There it is. It was ochi shit Also, this is apparently a tie whisper not a tie silencer and this is pose x-wing with the blue and orange Obviously, not luke's moral. The story is I suck at chips. So I was just wrong about all that also Yeah, really these aren't exactly meaningful errors These were so dumb. I thought it would be obvious. I was doing a bit with chewy But by far the it sorry, what did people what would what else would it be? Does it did he Did people watching it think that he was giving the actual subtitles or something? We thought it was a joke. I just thought it was a really tired joke Yeah, I'd be like one person in the comments section mentioned it and he's like, oh, okay I guess I have to mention those are the actual subtitles Yeah, I mean, I guess what he's doing here is like if I just totally sandbag it and point out tiny flaws and like My previous video then that shows that I'm self-aware and people overlook the massive stuff that I've missed The most offensive thing I did was leave out a soka from the force ghost. Oh, okay I just got really excited Jennifer hails voice was in there, but then forgot to mention her by name But I'm sorry. Ah, so katana's voice. Okay, fine These are the things he needs to correct. Okay This thing I don't know what they sound like Uh, I just don't I don't know I don't care. I don't care about a soka tonneau or whoever. I don't care I mean a lot of people do because of the clone I'm guessing he pissed that off Dead inside of this this film confirms They could care and I cannot care. I've never seen it. I just if I'm gonna do a review a movie Wouldn't change it. Lee and Adi Gallia's voices were in there, too I just couldn't make them out. It seems like they all just got female jet-eyed in the subtitles except for ala Also, I said he was doing Okay, you got names wrong. Fuck. I don't care. Just What about the actual fuck ups that are meaningful? Any comments like call on the stuff where you you're saying it makes sense to like c3p I wouldn't know the language like you would know the language, but he wouldn't be able to pull out Or that like force healing makes a hundred percent sense. Like you What about all that? Comments, but I came back while reviewing part one to read that the knights of ren are force users to which I say They are It's like Disney's They're supposed to be right I guess they never do so as we know nothing about them So what are we supposed to do like this? weren't they like students from the Luke's school that I don't know. I don't know. They're different They can you did say a handful of students Luke when he was telling a story Yeah The assumption but it's not confirmed I think they died of boredom or something I'm about to die boredom Very potter long after it's over and agreed It's what we wanted if you're rushing through so fast that you have to fix things later Slow down next other stuff. I learned from the comments Anakin would be super pissed that ray buried his lightsaber in course and rough sand This was important It's everywhere all the ships pilot had to do a spin Yeah, you didn't know that you say okay So you you mix in a really huge fucking one in with all the silly ones and jokes, but that one's actually like a plot Important thing like that changes the course of the battle Yeah, this is what he's doing like if he intersperses it with all this other crap Then it's like oh, they're all just equally valid like just a little nitpicks spin the ship slightly and they lose That's it Sova war's over But my current favorite ray touches the dagger and immediately knows it did bad stuff while holding in her other hand a lightsaber that murdered young Clicks, yeah, maybe she can only sense when it's bad stuff done to her. Who knows also lots of cameos I just didn't fit warwick davis back as wick at the e-walk jj voice deo writer christario played admiral akbar's son All right Okay, okay Sure, Miranda fine I don't think anyone would argue the amount of love that was put into how this film looked so much No, you covered plenty of yeah, it looks good. Yeah, but the production values you said this a lot, so It's practical It sometimes still feels like jj is responding to the hated sterile settings in the prequel trilogy And then comedy is always tricky if you don't like jj's style, none of it is likely to land I knew it. Oh, you did not But a lot of it worked for me John williams is a mad genius this video from red kai you hopefully i'm saying that correctly Goes over how the first few notes of rey's theme are actually the last few notes of kylo's which are all the size video Look at the reference that one though, right? I really I really you know it would show him a lot of uh Consistency if he was to reference that as well as to why they fucked up Notes of the second phrase of the emperor's theme and the first three notes of the emperor's theme are Revolutionary musical thing because I can't imagine it is there's nothing to do with this film though These are all these themes were generated from tfa, so I don't even know Times in the opening flourish of rey's the characters are even tied together through their yeah He's not going to reference the sideways one. I guess no they're not tied together through the musical themes. They did the musical themes The musical themes link for his video in the description. Okay. What about the other musical video that says this? sucks Come on. Talk about it. Don't talk about it I want to talk about some of the bigger complaints i've seen brought up I do have to be honest. I haven't watched that many of the negative breakdowns of this movie Maybe you should for accuracy sake. You'd learn a lot, mate. I would rather You know the whole like They they get to co-op the word positive for themselves and that we have to have the negative one You know like it's just the connotations of they're the good. We're the bad And I'll just be like why don't you refer to yourself as you know, like Uh Well, if we call us critical, what would he be? naive If we were critical, he'd be Permissive Yeah, I think you could probably do that. I haven't looked at many permissive breakdowns because they suck It's just like, oh, yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about it. It's fine. It's not it's not a big deal It's not even an issue. I don't even know why I stopped bringing it up I'm just tired of thinking about and arguing about star wars. So I may miss your specific complaint I know this movie was a huge disappointment for a lot of people. I wouldn't say Disappointment the biggest disappoint was the the bringing Palpatine back. I think once once that's done You mostly just like god, what a fucking disaster, you know, yeah Because that was sort of right off the bat. They hit you with the you know, oh, fuck it all It doesn't matter anyway point right off the bat So a bold move, but at least they got it, you know in the first You know a sentence of the title crawl I'm again not here to pretend like it's the most perfectly well written evenly pasted new a creative star wars movie But it is star wars. What the fuck does that mean? It is stars Who cares He's got what are you saying? It has the star wars label on it. Cool. He has a little saber That's what he's showing on screen the light saber. He she has two lightsabers and that's star wars each star war It's like it's so childish. It's like rags. You're right at 12 year old Yeah, I'm telling you man. This is like a 12 year old's video. It's just it there's nothing substantive here It's all just so Because it's star wars Like it because it's officially branded. Yeah And by the march and then get excited for the next product. We exactly This is as star wars. He has a star war ever did stars war Like how can I not say disnoid? It's like there's no other way It's so star wars here the lightsabers So palpatine was a clone which is very comic booky. It's star wars. No, no, no, no, no So by definition Everything in this movie is star wars because it's a star wars movie. Yeah So palpatine was a clone which is very comic booky and campy But still star wars is just a nonsense line Clones are already in star wars. You don't need to appeal to the existence of clones cloning palpatine specifically To also have him be super powerful. Then also snoke was that too, which makes you wonder if you can have an army of fucking Force users and then you got evil persists because of course it does. We're not talking about evil. We're talking about palpatine Stop going in your fucking metaphors person. He's not he's not the personification of evil itself He's not a conceptual. No, he's a person. His name is sheep palpatine. I mean he's he grew up by naboo He's twisting the argument to be like if you said how come palpatine's back and he goes because evil never truly goes away You're like i'm not talking about evil. Of course evil is still around. What the fuck evil is a metaphoric concept. Yeah, sure like But she is a person You going that's it Is you're arguing that like we judge if a Film is star wars by how much star wars these stuff is in it So it's like there's a film can like cancel itself out if there's not enough star Well, i'm not sure say for example a man doing his taxes not very star warsy, but if he's doing it with a lightsaber pencil Hmm Also, I want to highlight the fucking palpatine dies again in this one So is he advocating that we bring him back for episode 10 like what how far we take this evil. Yeah, yeah Evil persists because of course it does. I still don't find anakin's fine. That that's true. It's not meaning It's not meaningless because he actively makes the galaxy worse So I agree it's not meaning. Yeah the empire seemed to be way better in control of the first order did He oh he set up The galaxy to be in a state where the first order could essentially take control And be way worse than the empire was Good job anakin. Um, and I want to highlight So you have one of the things that anakin achieves like bring balance to the force defeat the person who manipulated and destroyed Him as a person in general rescue his son from death and end the war Like these are things that he did So end the war that's out defeat the person who's like manipulated and screwed over his life the whole time That's out and bring balance to force. That's out. So he saved his son. You're like, yeah Look what look what his son turned into Maybe he should have died a hero instead if he lived long enough His son was responsible for the rise of kylo ren Christ Pulveda man Geez don't get anything right. Can he we just have to shit all over these old characters to prop up these new ones The meeting was though. It's like, okay, buddy. All right, campy, but still star wars evil persists because of course it does I still don't find anakin's final sacrifice meaningless They had peace for 25 30 years the force awakens midpoint seems to be the first order's final rise to power with the destruction of the republic The first order's final rise to power. What does that mean? I meant right now is that like they had temporary peace like he lasted peace for like 15 years Like that's not bad. I'm like, yeah, it's still got undone Yeah, but pal, but he was alive the whole time like it was it wasn't over. It was just a fucking ruse And I don't believe there was peace either. You tell you tell me that there's peace, but I don't ever see it There's still like slavery. There's still horrible servitude. There's still lawlessness Like you you could say that it's peace now, but I don't believe you because I don't see that I'm not giving him the whole with the gut 25 I'm not either No, you don't get that But really in hindsight, it would have been more offensive that just another random dictator popped up into no, it's not It's not the idea that somebody wants to fill a power vacuum is way more reasonable than resurrecting someone. Okay Someone who's vaporized twice Can I stress this point? Bring someone else into the fucking story. That would be great The galaxy is full of individuals who live on planets that have armies that have influence and power And who are intelligent and conniving and who can come up with these plans There is someone who is like palpatine in that sense who absolutely could begin to orchestrate some kind of resurgence of Either the old empire or the creation of a totally new one. It is a huge galaxy Don't tell me it has to be the exact same individual who got vaporized twice You know, what do you think happened? What does he think happens in real life when a power vacuum occurs? It's funny as well because someone gathers up people with their influence and throne, right? And throne is like high ranking captain general person in the first order Sorry, jesus christ, that's sad, isn't it the empire and so we'd be at the point where The emperor's the the head of the snake is cut off who who've got left and one of them is opportunistic and takes the lead because they're You know, whatever kind of person they are. He thinks that's more offensive. They'd be like palpso's alive low Make a total sense that an imperial general who still has all of these soldiers Under his command these soldiers respect him. He commands a lot of authority and power It totals total sense that he would be like, hey, I see that a spot has opened up He's a grand admiral apparently Not just an admiral He'd be grand power. No, it's always been palpso's. It's still the emperor and anakin sacrifice still mattered if you realize Oh, no, what? If you realize Oh, it was more he's doing it. He's saving Yep, yep. Yep. He did it. Oh No No, he littered he fucking threw palpatine down Uh, they oh, but he did kill what he what is he how but he threw he killed him though Anakin did kill him. He did kill what he hated Sinnera wins is going to improve our memory of anakin's finest moment by referencing a line from rose tico It doesn't make sense This is such a like I feel like I'm at cinema wins is funeral now This is pouring soil. It's actually it's really impressive how many situations you can apply this quote to where it doesn't make sense It didn't even make sense in its original setting But when we make when we've been making fun of this quote We say oh will of anakin at the end of episode six if he would have used this logic Then it wouldn't have happened the way it did but he's saying that it happened the way it did because of what This doesn't make any sense at all. Who is the who are these clowns with these youtube channels? Just making shit up Amen, rose was right. You're all just hay is Ashtag explain his parody But he's being serious about it How important that anakin saved what he loved then killed what he hated Luke was still pivotal to this story. So anakin. No, he wasn't he delayed the first order for a couple of seconds It's so embarrassing I mean in episode nine They sort of wrote it to where he'd been studying the things all along the the wayfinders But he was uh, it's the weakest thing And besides it doesn't that's easy missing the point anyway It's not like anakin saved luke because he knew luke would be important to a plotline. He just loved his son As long as you go on to uh find the wayfinders that I should be warning people about as force ghost etiquette anyway, you know, because Whatever can saving luke even if he didn't fully kill empy was no he did he fucking vaporized Absolutely fucking towards i'm not putting up with this shit from disney. He died. Okay, whoever replaced it with some weird fucking guba Crucial jg must have known it from the beginning That's a joke. Let's talk about the force I'm sure there's lore and books written about the force and how it works But the guy I trust in the matter is yoda. I mean it crystal clear what the force is and isn't based on the movies What do we think the actual steps to a Jedi mind trick are a hand wave? It's not I mean the someone telling you that you can manipulate someone and then you intending to do so And focusing on that very task That's all I need I need you to know that it's a thing you can do and I need someone to tell you that in order to do it You need to focus on that being your goal and you know focusing on their Their operation their thoughts their mind not just I mean it's the force. I don't know I can pro I can probably just I could probably fly I could probably Detonate myself. I could pro this whole thing. I could freeze myself into a cube. I don't know. It's the force I could do read someone's mind. There you go I could do that too It's not cross your fingers and toes. It's feel it out man. Luke didn't get formal training on that I have no proof of this, but I'd bet movie yoda. What do you mean didn't have formal training on that? Jedi mind trick. How do you know that? He saw Obi-Wan do it. That's the part. He was training the force We didn't see you all of the training we see a montage at best Yeah, I think he's talking specifics. He said we like we don't specifically see Luke Yeah, we don't need to we need to know that a Jedi master was training him Not only a Jedi master, but a Jedi master is motivated to want him to defeat Vader Yeah, exactly I think you can assume as well like a mind trick is a fairly simple Jedi skill like you would start with the basic stuff So that would be like one of the early things that you teach is him You just get that for rey to have walked into a hut with some guy who's like I can teach you stuff about the force and then it says one hour later and she comes out of the hut That's like way better than what we got I don't even know. Well, I don't it's if you were to ask what what's the useful thing that rey pulled out of the quote-unquote training she got from luke Thing he learned from her. Yeah, I was gonna say she didn't learn anything from him Because that's kind of the point of the movie is that she's training him In those scenes. She's trying to reawaken his like His idiocy well Overcome his idiocy. He's like nah, I fucked up so I should Seclude myself. She's like no you can always redeem yourself You can learn from tisms and then Yoda has to crystallize that for him because luke is so fucking pathetic in tlj That he needs everyone else to help him get anyway He's a dummy All he taught rey was hey the force exists. There's powerful Yeah, which she already knew Yeah, fuck the jedi they allowed the sith to rule. He like oh, so the sith of worse He's like yeah kind of the sith of ruling right now. Do you think we should do somebody about it? He's like no the jedi sucks Yeah, did I suck so what happens delay? I just don't really give a shit Heard me I know we technically did it in canon when he was younger But old man movie Yoda would never use the force to trick anyone because it was beneath him Why am I saying something against like one words ago and and who do we see do you mean never do it? It's beneath him He didn't tell him about vader He did not tell him about vader until luke confronted him. He completely tricks people instead of Instead of he tricks luke. Yeah, why are you treating Yoda like he's an angel? Yeah, he's not in the ot at all Do the first mind trick ben who was taught by who? That's right the gray jedi himself quagon he taught obiwan obiwan taught anakin I just have a hard time picturing yoda teaching a bunch of younglings how to manipulate a dumb dumb into doing Okay, like the idea that now you've gone as far as being like so they were all taught But who taught them and what age do they get taught by it's like why is so this is your problem now not like I would assume that if we're gonna be teacher training jedi the five of us we've decided to start a jedi school like maybe Maybe mind trick maybe save that for when they've fully understood like the responsibility they have of the power Yeah, which um, I think by obiwan's age is that we see him in the phantom menace. Yeah, I think he'd know by then He's mature enough to handle it. Absolutely at that time a luke is Like you can't actually get away with this isn't um quagon is a student of count uku and count uku is a student of yoda Meaning that yoda would have been yoda would be teaching the mind trick And you can't you can't and then you can't make the claim yoda's too good to use such a trick though He does teach it to all of his students I mean the the jedi mind trick is just It seems like something that's very useful, especially if you're specifically training someone to defeat darth vader in his empire Yeah And what they want with the force, please don't take any of that too seriously, but it's 100 percent true Maybe probably I also get that just saying ray learned force healing from the jedi text doesn't really change what it means for the overall series quagon could have used it and it's one of if not the quagon could have used it. What's a healer's self? One could Quagon would have transferred his life energy to himself. Yeah, man. He would have lost something in the exchange rates You know how they get you An impetus for Anakin's turn to the dark side The irony there being the theory that Sidious invader actually sucked the life out of pad made a heal vader. That's the theory I don't give a shit. This is the thing you can't the problem with it Like it can't really work anyway because it means you could at any point in time Just suck the life out of anybody across the universe and provide us someone else like Jesus christ. That's op First why didn't he just do that to ray or when you do it for anakin When he first found him just suck the life out of the two clone troopers that were there I don't know. I don't know about this I just love this idea of people like randomly dropping dead because like oh shit some force users suck the life out of them Yeah, pal. He's getting old again. He's like right It's time to just Find me a young healthy orphan to suck the youth out of Oh, that's that's just called murder But along the same lines as the mind trick. I have no doubt the council didn't have force heal on the curriculum They were extremely repressive jet. I weren't allowed relationships. It's believable. What? It's believe wait Is he saying they didn't he's saying they wouldn't teach force heal Because they couldn't get married I'm sorry. Let's roll that back. I kind of yeah, that can't be what he said that can't reverse Healing. Oh, that's that's just called murder. But along the same lines as the mind trick I have no doubt the council didn't have force heal on the curriculum Why would they not that sounds like probably the most useful ability you could potentially teach a jedi I'm confused as to why we would be okay with defending people's lives, but we're not okay with force heal Why would you it seems to it seems like especially if your weapon is a Lightsaber and you are going to have all these accidents And you're going to have all these attacks Lightsaber and you are going to have all these accidents and just like the day to day stuff Like what if you get injured on the job and you need to keep going? I this is insane that he thinks that it's not reasonable that they didn't have force heal on the curriculum Because I was saying it as a joke a moment ago, but I was like, oh, yeah the first thing we're going to teach people is force heal is he trying to imply that Teaching them to force heal like what allowed them to do the life-sucking thing and that's why it's dangerous In the same lines as the mind trick. Well, yeah, but you can use any of these abilities evenly Yeah, I mean like a lightsaber is freaking dangerous Yeah, what if someone stabs an innocent child you're like, well, you know, let's hope that doesn't happen All right. Here's your lightsaber. It cuts through everything, right? Also telekinesis, uh, you can choke people you could push them off buildings It's great. You could throw a fucking rock at their head. Yeah, you probably snapped their neck if you wanted to really But we're not going to teach you how to heal people because that's Healing people. Whoa whoa Who this clown person. Oh my goodness extremely repressive. I love that he adds this sentence with it's believable Oh, okay. We can't teach them how to heal because they can't be in relationships That does how are those things related in any way like It doesn't fall over it hurts my brain. What how do you can you heal someone to prevent them from dying from happy sadness? Yeah, but you territory sad you you become depressed like oh man. Yeah, you become depressed Jed I weren't allowed relationships. It's believable. I that is such a strange leap. I don't even know what to say like what an odd line from one to the other Ben using a mild force heal on luke so I guess he learned the power in exile I could believe that given that his master died in front of him Yoda even says he has training for him and if there was anyone who went to the jedi library and wow Like the level of desperation You know you got obi-wan putting his hand on luke to try and wake him back up from being knocked out And you can interpret whatever the hell you want with that. He's like well I believe in death of the author but I will simultaneously say luke has said that was force heal And of course it makes sense that obi-wan would have Not known it and then choose to find out about it because his master died in front of him You know in the all the time between then now it was like nah, but now is the time to discover force heal Over 66 I think that that would have been pretty useful for Jedi Check out a book from stuff. That's not technically bad, but we're just not sure we should teach every jedi section It's quite Why is force heal bad Yeah, we're still we're still under the premise that it's like a form of murder It's like it seems like it's one of the most benevolent kind Useful powers you could ever teach someone like this is basic bitch healing spell stuff. You're teaching to people Like you have the power to pick someone up and fucking crush them into a ball if you try hard enough But we can't teach you to heal people That's too dangerous. They get lightsabers Maybe he taught obi-wan once he was a force ghost I mean he was the first to force ghost it up either way I know that a lot of you won't like this explanation. It's not an explanation. It's just nonsense I can't explain anything. You made insane assertions based on nothing Said diet. That's all there is diet. It's not a particularly interesting explanation It makes sense either. Snake with some scratches. They only heal each other Oh, so they don't only heal each other? Even Palpy was surprised when he went It's nice that we've established that your opinion is fucking inaccurate straight away Yeah, it's like with the exception of they can only heal each other. It's like but she could heal a fucking Snake creature in a pit on another planet What do you mean they can only heal each other? It's clearly not true This is good fucking not true. I mean they were something special I don't expect to see Jedi passing objects back and forth through space after this and I don't expect too much Oh, that ended well He only expects it in this film. He's like, you know, it's it's okay in this movie because of xyz, but it doesn't Just like everything it's like just it's dyad explains it all They're special because dyad Force healing this is like the hold-on maneuver, but with the force now, they're gonna have to explain Why don't you just teleport me a lightsaber, bro? That's the thing man. Do you remember this? This is e-fap law We would cover people who'd be like So the hold-on maneuver makes sense because one no one had tried it before two It's really hard to pull off three It's really unlikely that anybody would even try because it's a waste of resources Or it needs to be a really really big ship like the biggest ever so there's no other ship that could do this before Five you need a really like talented pilot It can't like be a droid or anything has to be like an admiral like a high-level skill But you're sitting there like you're insane You're desperately desperately scrolling together any sense of like just details that could possibly explain this absolute nonsense Sorry chat someone said it was a forced triad with the snake He was the third one Yeah, oh my goodness, he brought he brought violence to the force or snack. Good man And this isn't a weeds But also Vader's grandson finally got to do that thing palpy promised Anakin was of dark side power But it actually being a sacrifice is a key part that palpy left out But also still ties in with Vader's theory and it doesn't exist It's also not even what he said He said that he could bring people back to life, but he couldn't save himself meaning that it didn't cost him his own life to do it So no Nice try though It ties in with Vader stealing Padme's life just an inverse so do with that what you will One more since we're already talking about space ghosts space for space dad dad ghosts force ghosts But i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that everyone is taking this a little too Implications on the universe literally and missing the point. No. Oh, we're missing the point It's what the emotions it's about the emotional payoffs doesn't matter about the universe And because well, yeah, this this is what he's about to say is it doesn't matter about the mechanics It matters how it made you feel it matters what it means It's a I know that a lot of this doesn't quite make any sense Like why didn't Luke go to exegol with the lightsaber? But you're missing the point about what this feels the emotion that right come on it's represented to Yeah, then if nothing makes any sense and there's no continuity or consistency then all it makes you feel is disgust And confusion really help Yeah, he's probably gonna say something like it's it matters Luke's journey. You see it's bookended with Doing something that he previously failed to do but it's so meaningful Yoda also lifted an x-wing. I know he wasn't dead yet Oh Just a little detail. It's just a tiny little detail. I was like, oh, he wasn't dead yet. That is going to help Oh my god. Oh, yeah, but he wasn't dead yet A little tiny tiny little Little detail Oh This is what it's come to I love this guy. I just I wish I could twist Like facts and arguments in my brain to this extent so that anything makes sense You think that he ironically believes all this or do you think he's trying to manipulate things because it seems like he Believes all this and only how do you come to these conclusions, dude? It's ridiculous sound and type Spoken out as a guy He wasn't dead yet But that's just a trivial little detail Being alive It does kind of it almost feels like a devil's advocate situation where it's like, okay If I have to try and construct an argument for why this movie's good What would I put down and yeah when you're thin on evidence you've just got to start manufacturing stuff All right, number one death doesn't matter But then he let luke go fight vader instead of saying No, he says it's not a good idea. He says you're fucking up. He says you need to train more and luke's like nah I'm going then he's like I'm not fucking help you No way. It's not happening This isn't even into this isn't factored in luke is going against both obi one and yoda's recommendations here The idea that it's like yoda should be going to fight with him like nope This is what we call characterization The the presence of power in yoda does not then make a contradiction when we have a fight going on somewhere else You need to prove to me that yoda would commit to fighting vader with luke But you can't because if you watch the movie you can't That is the worst that is the worst yoda you cannot leave that in Not to mention he just changes his mind in jedi and says that the final Um, it's there Text at the top. Well, yes once he's ready and he says he says he is and he says your final test is to defeat vader now Well, the luke has actually come across and gotten to the point that he was supposed to From yoda's point of view, but i mean yoda was dying anyway, so maybe he's just saying it to be nice He did it luke. I mean The final test is always the final test You have to get there and all the steps along the way the final test doesn't change We got a bonus thought up here This is becoming the video of secondary thoughts, but ben and yoda telling luke to face vader Actually plays into the point i'm about to make it still saved the story of luke's character luke needed to become a fully fledged jedi and in the context of the entire series That means he needed to think for himself by trying to save his father even if it killed him And his father in the process Yeah, okay, so This is where he just post posts everything I didn't know this little extra shit like go back and edit your video and actually do this as dialogue He put about as much work into the video as he put into the analysis Test is actually fighting peter But my point is that yoda was alive have this power and didn't help anyone with anything except a little training because he's not suicidal It's kind of the impression I Why didn't yoda use lightning or why didn't you he'd do anything instead of the ot It's like doesn't matter we're talking about this film No, he's saying it's consistent yoda would not have used his lightning because he didn't help luke in this film There you go Even though he's pretty explicit that it's a fucking bad idea to go and attack vader right now But you know, whatever that doesn't matter So luke dead isn't about to show up on exegol. These are our mentors our supernatural aids are wise sage Super natural aids. I I was about to say I don't even think it's fair to call them supernatural at this point They seem very natural You touch things and hit you on the face with The heroes drink drink things like could one pick up a glass of water drink it. How did that work? So his His conclusitory argument is they're not supposed to attack people. They're wise sages when you saw obi one Literally fighting vader in a new hope that was that was uh, Um Movies are meant to be that stupid simple I talked about it a bit in part one, but the lack of stakes were a problem for a lot of people You're not wrong tension has just never really been that important to me Tension has never been important to me in fantasy movies. What? Okay I'm sorry You sound like you should be a movie reviewer Like Is is infinity war technically fantasy like that has a lot of tension. Does that not matter? important I mean, I like tension myself in drama. I might I like tension. Yeah, that's Yeah, it's cool. We're pro tension on efab guys in fantasy I need to say hi for tension Fantasy movies one character dies in all of lord of the rings. Sorry spoilers But everyone else gets fake out deaths multiple fake out deaths a few other secondary good guys die some So there are some people extra who die, okay Oh So he's saying there's no tension in the lord of the rings Um, he's suggesting that because only barmia dies that's of the main protagonist set I guess that uh We should have the same crit He's like he's he's really taking it to the nth degree with the what about ism like a lot of people do it But he's really going for it, isn't he? In the first movie we see a member of the fellowship Die So clearly we've established that People can die no no post talk. He's he's concluded that none of the other ones die. Therefore is no tension going back Oh, that's not how that works at all, but hey Oh Main characters die Also, what about golem? That's true. What about saran? These seem like pretty significant characters. What about saraband? What about grimoire mtug? Do the villains not count? I don't know This is all very weird when you're watching it through like man, you don't know who's gonna live or die. That's the thing Especially when you see Gandalf in all of lord of the rings. Sorry spoilers, but everyone else gets fake out deaths Yeah, he said main character. There's a shit ton of main characters that actually die. That's not about allegiance at all Multiple fake-out deaths a few other secondary good guys die some come back. Some are only introduced to die I have never experienced tension about any main characters dying throughout any star wars movie not even adameral oozle or captain nita What what? That doesn't raise tension in any way I'm so confused I was uh, I remember being very concerned for hard solo uh In best bid when they set up for his freezing. I was like, oh fuck like this is bad I don't think anyone would agree with this Like I don't even think he would agree with this if we were to actually talk him down from this insane position I guess he he just figured that luke han and leia were just immune to damage I don't know why he added this bit at the end not even adameral oozle or captain nita Like what do you mean? You just thought they weren't gonna die until they did Okay Weird I don't know. Yeah, like I can't really do anything with this Maybe maybe rogue one, but what was happening there became clear really quickly. Oh, so you got tension You knew that people were actually dying. I don't understand his rules at all What does he mean by main characters? Like he said main characters die. They're second at what's the difference between a main character and a secondary character exactly His his sense of tension for a main character's death wouldn't be affected by a secondary character's death Because you'd be like, oh, well, that's I already know secondary characters can die. I don't know if that's his point This is a mess And besides obiwan wasn't really dead yota wasn't really dead by the end of the prequels kwagon invented not being dead And sure order 66 is still dead The star wars universe clearly draws a fucking difference between being a force ghost and a human And this is part of the problem and rise of skywalker while the sequel trilogy that line is getting very blurry Like I say, what's the advantage to being alive now? But that was just a bunch of nameless Why don't we just move along but the important ones were fine and nace windows death was just a nail in the Anakin What is this series of arguments? This is so weird He keeps trying to advocate that death isn't present in the in the star wars movies in a tension-filled way And every time he recognizes that there's one that goes against that. He's like, yeah, it doesn't really count Yeah, but things that prove me wrong. Those aren't those shut up What what argument are you reduced to where you're basically saying like the tension isn't in the movies because the characters don't main characters don't die He's just saying films period don't have tension for him because Of death that's like So thin like what are you arguing for in terms of And this is ultimately so subjective as well like whether or not he felt tense watching scenes like, okay Becoming Vader coffin lost your hand luke have a robotic one lost your death star palpy build another one fully operational even First one blew up the first one blew up alderaan This second one was going to blow up the rebel base It took them years to build the second death star and it wasn't even completed It like it didn't come up back overnight I like he's trying to imply there's no permanence and if he was to be like See palpatine came back with another death star a third one and he came back as well It would be like, yeah, that's a disney ones. That's what we're complaining about The idea that They dissolved the senate because they had full control over the galaxy with the horrifying death star And then it was blown up Of course, they're gonna rush to make another one because they've just tipped their hand to the galaxy and lost their weapon Maybe the purists were right. Maybe star wars should have ended in 1977 at this point You might be saying just because it was bad on the ot or the pg doesn't mean isn't bad now I agree convenient writing and plotting have been a staple of the series from day one What what does that even matter if if the y'all sure there's conveniences for those flaws What are you arguing for this the rise of skywalker is a terrible film There's barely anything redeemable about it. Like how are how are you missing this? Well, you're saying there's no 1000 plot holes and then he says yeah, but there's three in a new hope So it's always been a staple of the star wars, you know trilogy There you go Yeah, just makes sense. That's a fair comparison. I don't I don't think there's anything I haven't covered there. Right. We did it Things happen because the force says so and anytime something seems silly you can just go No, you can't that's that's lazy. That's just saying the force that The force that invaded to know leo's his daughter. That is not an argument. I never make fucking The force is this pesky little character. It's like no Want vader to know leo was his daughter Well, you see the force needed 3po and r2 who belong to luke's twin sister Seriously, man, you need to chill out with the what about ism. You've gone crazy with it Yeah, can we talk about how shitty the rise walker is? You can only make the rise of skywalker look any better by trying to bring everything else down That's why this video is so long. He has to keep going back to that He has to keep doubling down on the what about isms and saying it's bad in this so it's bad in that There's contrivances and flaws in the ot and therefore it's a staple in the trilogy the entire series Well, like he said in his joker video every film falls apart when you when you nitpick it So there you go Yeah, and they all fall apart to the exact same degrees And also ben's planet which is precisely where leo would need them to end up even though she had no control over it And they were i'm still happy that we have these goofy space movies that never wanted to commit to being sci-fi Because luke's didn't even know what a parsec was so good luck with technobabble. So instead it's fantasy button space I love it. I love sci-fi. Of course. It's sci-fi So your conclusion is i love all of it warts and all it's like, okay Can you address how bad rise of skywalker is now? We're done with your weird essay about how there's flaws in stuff And that you don't feel tensioned things Ripple of this video is the false equivalency. He keeps doing it He keeps equivalating the ot to the prequels and i mean to the sequels and it's not even close not even similar All they're all dumb schlocky nonsense with the deus ex machina built Now we're going nuts. They're all dumb schlocky nonsense with deus ex machina built into the narrative This is what they do. This is what you have to do to defend the sequels. This is what you have to do You can't actually defend the sequels. You have to resort to this shit Yes, I agree with you take it seriously luke's plan at the beginning of the return of the jedi doesn't make any sense Now can we talk about the rise of skywalker? I agree with you. It's like there's flaws in the ot There's a love of god It's not perfect. This is the thing with what about them They only exist if they only can work if we think the pre the original trilogy is perfect Into the narrative and that works for me. It makes it fun. I'm not saying don't challenge the writing I'm not even sure you should have enjoyed this movie like I did You already fucking said that we should like pretend to like this shit and see if we like it We should turn our brains off and and see if there's something bigger going on like you've already been condescending Don't even try to go there. AJ's style alone is enough to annoy some people. I get that I'm just telling you why these movies worked for some of us. You have not explained You've just been like other movies sucks or whatever They were never intended to be anything more than escapist fun You can be escapist fun. We're also making sense. Stop making this dichotomy That's what makes escapism easier is that it makes sense that I can connect with it And no analyzing stuff doesn't make it less escapist fun for me. I think that's because I don't I don't think it should Yeah, if it doesn't make any sense and it still works as escapist fun. I'm like sure buddy That's for you Are you making all these arguments? You just enjoy the do you do you enjoy the movies because you make these post-talk rationalizations and false equivalencies in your head And you're just sharing that with us because I feel like you're trying to argue these films make sense Always talk about certain problems people think that I'm either ignoring them to make the movie look better Or you don't have a great defense. I mean, yeah, you said it mate I'm not make I'm sorry. I do not believe that he's making this and good You can't possibly Be this ignorant He's either doing this because he's misrepresenting the film or he's stupid and he's not stupid. He's stupid enough to miss all this stuff He's ignoring it Which is I don't remember my reasoning for every win over the last five years But more often than not if I don't deduct a win it's a problem And I just don't really care this what you but you do it. What do you mean? You do care? I don't understand like Oh, great. We're gonna reference the Joker this goes back to what I was talking about in the Joker video How important emotion in your overall feeling about a oh my god I'm pulling emotion is guys This I cannot believe this video I feel like we tried this argument a million times like it's important how you feel How did it make you feel? Feels before reels Movie or a franchise is and deciding what constitutes a failure of the movie or just Who cares fake out. Don't you get the point of saying meh who cares? It's you conceding it exists It's there, but it didn't bother you which is yeah, that's fine That's not yeah, it's not a flaw because it didn't bother me. It's not how that works Deaths constantly trope for sure meh weird kiss in the end that seemed to come out of nowhere It's still a meh. Are you mehying stuff like that? That's surprising. Yeah, the fact that they kiss is nuts Meh It's a perfectly weird approach it with this mindset. You can just dismiss any problem In any context and just meh. Don't care It's like well, if you don't care about anything in the movie, why do you even bother watching it? Why do you bother analyzing it? Meh Also weird teleporting matter is a universe breaker for sure, but there's no reason to believe anyone outside of the So here's the thing so now have we are we just going to establish and say that it's safe to say that The only force users that we see in these movies interacting with each other really like the two main protagonists on the light and dark Only that the dyad could do it. Can we not do this with luke and vader? Anything that luke and vader have to do with each other is only something that a father and son can do Thousands of generations or whatever the fuck palpatine says that's where it takes for dyad. So there you go It's funny. It's kind of the same thing as the whole domain of a retcon It's almost like attempting to fix it to be like all these crazy insane Nonsense force powers that rey and kylo can do it's explained because they're the only two people who can do it Okay, okay. Okay. Thank god. They're both dead. Oh well one of them But we introduce I mean the fact that yoda can summon lightning and stuff like that Yeah, that's something that they invented that force ghost can do now Is it can only yoda do it? Well, no luke can do it too because he could lift stuff out of the ground with his lightning or his force power So now what do we do there? Until episode 10 as a force ghost do something on a place that's not up to You Your entire franchise I bet you do it's used a lot sometimes. Oh wait Snoke set up the skype call Yeah, help so And if well even if palpatine who cares if it was smoke or palsy, they're not in the dyad They did it so Yeah, but transmitting transmitting matter Is I guess he's See we can't prove so to clues into the dyad is like but we have no reason to believe it As far as we know, they're the only ones that we see do it But that doesn't mean no one else can't do it Especially considering they just do it They she just pulls it out of her ass like the other powers that she uses meh All right is very well sometimes poorly But regardless of how it's used it changes the universe forever And if you think that it doesn't you might be lying to yourself What time travel doesn't matter how strict your rules are death no longer has to matter If you think that any of the rules of time travel are on forever Time machine is asshole. Yeah Why is he citing this like we don't care about that? Uh, who wrote that hg wells wrote that that was back in I got a google when it was written Uh, how much does he likes billions of dollars? Do I care? Absolutely not 1895 Holy shit. Why doesn't he care? We care about Back to life arbitrarily. That's that's nonsense. It's like This is the part it's like you just it feels like he's just giving up. He's just like, okay Characters can just come back to life. It's like you don't care about any this at all But people who aren't following he's saying that avengers will never be truly gone because they've got time traveling it now And uh, you underestimate how much disney likes billions of dollars and then he just says do I care? Absolutely not. What? Why? Oh, you don't care one of the things I wanted them to do Go ahead So, yeah, if there's no consequences to anything that happens in a story, why does anything matter anymore? Like why would you care? Why would you watch it? Well tiny things colors lasers Sound design yeah Shots acting Yes, the most surface level superficial way to look at movies One of the things I wanted from endgame was for them to close the loop if you will on time travel Be like, yeah, you know have it stated that they destroy all the technology or they they will never use it again Not even that we don't get that. They've just they've just got time travel as an option now forever, which is insane It could have made it so like it was only Tony knew how to make the specific one and like only he was the one who could do it And after he died, it's like it's gone forever and banner isn't enough But like they literally make a miniature Time travel thing is like This is going to bring up problems in the future movies and it brings up problems in endgame too So also a hack for media said he needs to hop out for an hour He will be back and I know me and rags will still be here in an hour's time at the very least Ah and to be frank pretending like time travel didn't exist would almost be a slap in the face to marvel comics. So He keeps Can you please talk about the rise of sarah? Yeah, that's a good point actually Does he think that all comic books are sequels to one another? Well, if they if they had a time travel device in the comics, you have to have it in the movie adaptations That's just how that works And comics are proof that you can still tell great stories even when we all know the stakes are at best temporary But didn't you just say it breaks your movie? Yes, it does and it doesn't matter to me What do we do with this same Needs to qualify it. I don't it does not matter that it doesn't matter to you it matters to the film He's talking like he's all this is just for him and it's like it's not you've provided argumentations You keep using what about to some arguments like they may make the movie better You're not arguing for yourself cinema wins. They're not Well, it doesn't matter to him. So Yeah, they fucked eating the fuck out and game was still awesome. Maybe primer gets a pass but I'm not sure Because of all the fast-paced planet hopping there was less character development the previous movies The way they never really trust each other But po and fin are more like an old married couple than people who are worried about getting murdered in their sleep rose Tico was never my favorite character So in a vacuum her lack of screen time wouldn't have bothered me But knowing that she was harassed and whether jj caved to the mob or maybe she just didn't want the same attention again It stings to see her pushed off to the side It's a much more extreme example, but it makes me wonder what the real truth behind jar jar was Did lucas really plan to make him the ultimate sith in the third movie but just couldn't after the backlash I guess we'll never know but then I don't I don't have a reply to any of that I don't either he's just saying like Kelly Marie Tran like maybe she wanted to be in the movies or maybe she didn't maybe We don't know any of that She wasn't in the movies that much at all or at least inside of this movie. So Okay, we have adam driver and daisy ridley john boyega is great too If nothing else how he hides his british accent and we all already know oscar isek is amazing If anything Whatever next What's the thing now that we're actually talking about rise of skywalker again, he's gonna be like so the acting was good Yeah Nailed it toward Type of this trilogy was sort of holding him back. He's a funny likeable guy He's also capable of a lot of depth, but both daisy and adam have amazing arcs over this trilogy and Amazing He proved it instead of his last part even though he didn't he's just saying this like he's already concluded all this stuff We could have spent all this time talking about their arcs instead We were talking about how all these other films and franchises have flaws in them Oh Okay Both played their part as sincerely as is possible daisy starts out bubbly wide-eyed just a kid living in the shadow of great stories Wondering how she fits in i'll never forget the first time I saw the excitement in her face about finn being in the resistance and last jedi after luke tries to destroy His own legacy and crushes her spirit attach She's a little jaded curved but at times furious with anger after all that She still finds her way back to where luke started claiming the heritage she wanted rather than obsessing over what it actually is So we're just gonna like ignore how everything comes to be You can't even tell me what she actually wants Do this with anybody and this is what a lot of reviewers will do they'll they'll They'll say everything that's surface level. They'll they'll note key plot points. They'll be like, okay, this happens This happens. This happens. This happens and they don't they ignore all the stuff in between the mechanics of it It's like a story isn't good just because there's plot points Which could be good in a different movie like the mechanics like are how the story functions and how the characters work And it's like if they if all that's wrong and just Contradictive and nonsensical it's like it's it's gonna damage the characters Besides I kind of did this with the April Fool's video I just did it with different sets of facts to him to draw a different through line because you can just do Whatever you want when you leave loads of stuff out Like when we actually pick a part of the details So like she really wants to go back home in force awakens until she just doesn't anymore. It's like, oh Like they'll just get dropped and then it's like you're gonna go to luke For some reason. She's the one that resistance sends You're like, okay, and then luke is like why are you even here? And she's like because I need someone to show me my place in all of this and you're like wait your place I thought your motivation was like you want to wait for your parents to come back because you Okay. Yeah, you want to want to know your place because it's for parents parent and But in Han Solo it's just they keep making stuff What does it mean the whole thing seems to slap-dash. We're just kind of like, oh, that's what no that Okay, that's no. No, I don't I'm I'm really barely following Well the scriber is a pinball all the time. It's like that's exactly what she is in these movies She's just bouncing around like oh, okay. All right. Yeah And she just ends up in the right place at the right time usually so Good for Yeah, then as the movie kicks on TLJ. She isn't really concerned about her place She's more concerned about trying to rescue Ben from being evil And then she's like I'ma just be with the resistance and then the third film is like maybe I'm a Palpatine It just felt like we're along for the ride. We're just like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah Well, she's just like cinema wins. She's just like man, I don't care It doesn't matter. I'm just having fun. Look Star Wars Adam driver's arc isn't as gradual though. Kylo. No, there is no arc. He just bounces between good and evil constantly He's always confused. He's always angry. He doesn't know what the fuck's going on Yep I wonder what scenes we're gonna ignore to draw the through line here to start off with a lot of same issues He's an unsure of himself bad guy emulating his hero who he fears He'll never live up to which makes no sense because Vader would never let that happen But I guess his force ghost was unavailable He's clearly a character with inner turmoil even in the first movie But almost yearns to be a generic baddie because those are the parts of Vader. He idolizes you can for some reason We don't even know why he idolizes Vader's villainous this Okay Feel him hiding behind his man Which was a big empire I guess Oh, that wasn't Vader. Snoke points out. He was torn. Did you guys not pick that? Do you guys get that from Kylo throughout the trilogy that he's torn? Did you get I I felt like I picked that up Seems pretty committed He's that's his it's not that he's like torn over a particular idea. He's just torn torn is his character He's constantly conflicted. He's constantly angry about being conflicted. That's that's just Kylo Kylo torn He's clear like you're like, what do you want for breakfast? You'd be like Waffles, but maybe Toast, I don't know Ash Brown so conflicted Fucking trash the kitchen with his light Clearly angry and messed up from killing his father, but still sees Rey's inherent power and wants to team up with her No, that was stuff together. I was killing Rey well, uh He eventually tries to kill her but Leia stops it There's so many little facts about each of the events of these movies that just spit in the face of any definitive statement You could make about what Kylo wants That's what I mean. All you get is well because he's conflicted. You're like, yep, of course he is Killing Han the thing that was supposed to seal his fate made his confusion and self hatred worse than last Jedi and ironically Snoke slash Palpatine's plan to connect him with Rey ultimately backfires. Does it? Does Palpatine not want him to take over the first order and kill Snoke? I figured that was actually a part of his plan or some kind of retcon would make it so Unless he's talking about the end and the rise of Skywalker. Oh, well that Yeah, even though Rey kills him. He doesn't take over her bodies. Yeah, actually Kylo had nothing to do with rey winning in the end There's something to do with her not dying. I suppose Yeah, but that was after the fact. Yeah Pops is already dead by then The galaxy like the odd couple. No, Ben. We don't need to blow their planet up. Let them unionize But instead rey rejects him and he goes full kill the world scorned lover to the point that upon hearing the emperor's back He goes to kill him One thing I found interesting is that the emperor actually allowed him to achieve Anakin's dream of being supreme ruler first with Padme and then the luke for like a hot minute And then pulled the rug out and then a physical death of kylo sorts and some love He didn't do that. He didn't pull the rug Brug out I don't know Kylo brought him back Ren, what do you mean? You say these words, but He's doing this a lot. He's saying lots of words that are just like But this isn't I'm just trying to think of the part in the movie that supports what he's saying That's difficult Back I know from some of the comments that Rey's new bloodline was a gut punch to some of you And that my line about this story always being about bloodlines added insult to injury Maybe this distinction won't matter, but I didn't mean the star wars story I meant the skywalker versus palpatine story I know it still makes this universe feel closed off the way I see it bloodlines only matter when it comes to power level I truly did enjoy the idea from last jedi that reys parents were nobody's But I said in my video for that movie that I would be fine if it was undone and ultimately I expected it to be I personally see abandoning your evil bloodline as a step beyond having nobody's for parents Bloodlines are evil God damn What can you say with this stuff, man? We're just I'm just numb to it Well, thank god we're near the end because yeah the fuel to just uh Kind of getting to the uh abandoned hope Getting pretty tired weary Starting to soar to get there Last jedi was about race slipping to the dark side even though vader was who he was No way this is not Dark side blip I think we can argue that the skywalker bloodline is actually a light side bloodline saving the galaxy when you're the descendant of Nobody's would be easier I'm gonna go ahead and say new Blame that reasoning because you just say it but I feel like I could argue the opposite of that Really well I feel like vader was evil for longer that he was good So like it awkward I feel like the stuff he does is more important of the evilest dude to ever evil I'm sure there's eu stuff about sheave, but that dude seems to have been born evil and those would be harder genes to overcome Born evil seems to have been born evil. We don't foresee him until he's like Old Yeah, we Yeah, we don't know anything To be there's there's nothing to go on the films So when ray chooses her mentors bloodline over her genetic one, you can't choose a bloodline That doesn't make any sense. She's still she is still Palpatine. Yes. She is a palpatine blood still exists inside of her She could call herself whatever she wants just because you call yourself. I know it's a trigger people But you can't just call yourself something and you're that thing Wow, you just triggered me That's all right Even though it is another powerful family It's still the answer to her life without a home The truth is she's still just ray or ray from nowhere because there aren't any non-forced ghost skywalkers left the Choose your place she's got no skywalkers to mooch off is what he says. Oh, well Just ray from nowhere messages still choose your place Allow yourself to be chained to fate to be ruled by your genes. Yeah, it's not an uncommon message in a lot of media not a thing The idea that tlj introduced this shit is so frustrated Yeah, like you're not defined by your past like plenty of stories have that All nine movies will be movies I can go back to and enjoy and I know that'll be true for lots of people The good guys win and even some of the bad guys turn good Honestly, the five minutes have been solo in this movie given his characterization and the rest of the trilogy is one of my favorite moments in star wars It's one of his favorite moments. All right. It's I think it's super super pathetic Motion is a story I'll always love and these movies are made to make you feel things They can still like star wars in public the good ones not the shitty new ones Desperate he he wrote that down these movies are made to make you feel What uh, I'm so convinced I am convinced Wow, I said we were stuck in the 70s and 80s too. So just full circle Oh, well, you'll have your secret star wars love subreddits. They'll have saltier than crete Although saltier than crete is pretty funny. So it's still worth going there, too Be thankful that you never take any movies so seriously Actually than at all the sequel sequel memes are really crap. No, salty than crete is the the anti sequel subreddit Oh, okay. Those okay, then I'm confusing them. So The whichever one is the sequel memes subreddit. Maybe it's just called. I think it's called sequel memes. Yeah It's a sequel memes That one is shit The sequel sequel memes are generally really terrible. They're not Good to meme and a lot of them are super fucking preachy And they're very bitter about defending these movies Frequel memes is hilarious So, oh my lightsabers are red shad. That's evil. You should know better. You're not allowed to have evil lightsabers Yeah, those are evil ruins the past for you. And if this movie did ruin the past for you I'm not saying I'll never do a star trek nemesis video But I'll admit now that it's filled with completely different characters from tng a completely different tone and pretends like most of tng Didn't happen, but it didn't ruin star trek Hmm Just to find ruin because everybody finds it differently. You know, that's the point It's just a fun dumb movie with more Picard chest hair. It's a fun dumb movie, man. Yeah, it's just a fun Just have fun with the dumb Nothing. I just I'm getting those vibes. Nothing can be bad And you better believe I've got a defense for the dude buggy sequence. It's called patrick stewart gets to do what he wants Oh Is star trek the best place to end a star wars video? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I don't okay. Thanks for sticking around for that brought that into the equation. It was cathartic to get it all out Well, it was worthless. It was cathartic to get it all out. It's like it really felt like a rambling mess But I'm glad you got it out of that system Oh, I hope it's clear that my intention wasn't to prove the original trilogy was bad. It was I don't know man You shouldn't have to say that if that wasn't your intention. It's because it seems that way because you saw so much Why would people get that impression? It's like he knows he knows that people will get that impression because he kept talking about the original trilogies Dude You to laugh when someone starts to try to list off all the concrete reasons for why you shouldn't like the sequel trilogy No one's saying that to watch the ot again and be sure they get why they like star wars And if you still hate the sequel trilogy Also, just go watch the ot because it's still there or the mandalorian or clone wars. I think that's good seriously clone I'm sorry. By the way, I totally lied about next week's video being 10 years old. It's five years old What's time anyway? Am I right? Take care. Be nice to each other in the comments. Yeah, by the way stop watching argument for like just dot's there So just watch the ot, you know, take a cinema wins. Everybody. Don't be mean to him. There we go We did it. All three videos are done Oh I've this video is something special so, um If I don't know it's like if you were to rate them it feels like cinema wins is below sins at this point Yeah, it wins is beneath sins sins is for how terrible The content is it's actually It's actually better Yeah, like I think cinema sins is more is inaccurate more often like frequently He will make mistakes and they'll just be like well this is explained in the movie with him It's the reaching it's all the reaching and all the bizarre conclusions that he comes to it's like that's the thing I hate it's like it just he says things like they're matter of fact I'm like, dude, you need to have more concrete evidence and you shouldn't just be making all these random inferences it's um It's interesting to me as weird as this sounds. I feel like sins is more consistently just sludge while this is like Uh, he's not sure of his actual identity when making these videos. I don't think he knows It's a wee bit nutsy. It doesn't know what he's really trying to achieve. It feels like he's all over the place And that's my other trouble too is people love him like I I swear cinema sins has become the punching bag of youtube people just People just assume he's bad. There's so many people who have made videos I don't think anyone is made and everything wrong with everything great about video like people the internet just eats him up They're just like yay. He's good. He's happy cinema. That's the nature of being positive quote-a-quote versus being negative You're allowed to be positive and inaccurate. You're not allowed to be negative. Yeah nailed it That's our conclusion for this stream. Thanks for watching We did it everyone Oh It was wrong Yes, but we did it. It's all been done Just as the oracles said so What we're looking at Is me and rags have got a lot of super chest to read out. We're probably going to be starting with this streams one Ones that makes the most sense. I suppose because they'll be the most relevant Um, we do plan to catch it do another catch-up stream like it'll we're gonna get to it, but I will say you know, um Since we're at seven and a half hours. I've been something like that Evan Monroe critical drinker. You're welcome to step out if you'd wish you've been here for a long time Or if you want to hang out and potentially join in on some conversations also I would like to stick around for the super chest, but I'm probably going to return to bed because it's half two here so Half two early going to sleep today. That's one And one is the opposite of two as we learned That is something I'm really going to take from this. Yeah Um, I want to I want to talk a bit about your channel while I link it in the chat Yeah, I review movies and tv shows and get Critical about stuff you drink. That's it. Is that that part of occasionally? Yeah Well, you should uh, you should the we did um We did a discussion on terminator. I've linked it in the description as well If you guys want to hear another five hours on top of whatever you watch all of today's You can find that in there. We just basically gush about terminator one and two while shitting on some other ones in that franchise Yeah, it was a nice and to do it to like all the star wars stuff to just be able to talk about movies that we really like, you know, yeah and uh Perfect timing with with uh, the fact that like nothing new is coming out for now. It's just like, yeah, let's just talk about old Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at at the moment. It's like Yeah, I think if I'm gonna have to go back through old movies, I'd rather pick good ones and just Have a fun time for a while Yeah makes sense um So, yeah, the it's all linked rude in the In the chat and thank you for uh hanging out for this for as long as you did always a pleasure, sir Thank you very much. It's been great for me But um, yeah, enjoy the rest of the superchats and uh, I'll catch you guys next time Yeah, see you later later And uh, Evan would you like to stay or go? I'm gonna say. Oh my god. Okay Well then, like I said, uh, none will be missed. Me and Rags will get to all of them But I figure since they're part of this stream We will read as many as we can of today's ones if we can get through them. We will start moving Uh, backward, I suppose I can find where They are in the new one There we go. And like I said, uh hack fraud media said he would be back Yeah 40 minutes from now or so so We'll see if we can see him just scrolling down. Give me a moment. Let's distract them by talking about something Do you guys like Star Wars? I do like Star Wars Why Well, I mean, I I don't like it anymore Now there's no rules and there's no states. There's no tension and there's no characters that I care about All right, so for anybody curious about what where we are So this is I'm starting the super chats that were for this stream. Um Oh, these are even they're even dated now. How terrifying Uh, okay So first one is horizon zero dawn is coming to pc also high rags Hello Yeah, I mean, is it is it not come yet or is it coming perpetually? Horizon zero door. I mean For beast, I don't know if anyone we we get that one a lot. I just I don't know if it's happened yet I don't know if it's out. I I don't really have any interest in it. Mm-hmm um How is wolf as far as I know he's doing well and uh high rags Hello, here we go. Here we go Oh Thanks for the content while I work question bros thoughts on the show madmen if you've seen it some of the best characters tv has to offer in my opinion Um, I've not seen it. It's highly recommended by a friend of mine. I'm gonna try and watch it eventually Same here. I've I've meant to see it. I've heard it's incredible, but I've just never gotten around to it There's there's a lot of other tv shows that I need to see I'm all a high rags. Hello. Hello time for more discussion of this piece of trash a Excellent Hello there gentlemen and high rags Hello, hello Stock of work all day. Good luck today, Evan Good luck What is it that's from southport? I'm assuming he he was you know prepare either you might have died of a headache of some kind That's possible You avoided that though Oh Linus did another funny 30 minutes Rant on the star The sequel trilogy calling it an incoherent garbage screenplay after hearing the star wars head story writer saying it's all fake anyway on his recent one show I saw that man. It's all fake anyway. It's like you got to be kidding me, man That's so that's so sad Why do we need to hire you then it's all fake anyway Exactly. It's like why do you why do you have a job? Yeah, what makes it your job? Better than any other one if it's all fucking nobody gives a shit Uh So moviebob's tweets have gotten even more insane at what point do we consider involuntary commitment? It's only a matter of time before he snaps violently Uh for what I saw a j log boat has given up retweeted him now because she thinks he's just too insane He keeps just consistently nonsensical Um But you know as long as as long as he stays on twitter will be fine People say that laia remembering her mother was an issue after the pt But I always assumed she can be referencing her adopted mother Hi rags Hello Um again, though, it's perfectly reasonable. I think to have a memory that didn't actually happen Especially that early I don't know about you guys But like some of my earliest memories of things where I'm like, I wonder if that actually happened or if I'm sort of remembering something that's made up of other things She says like she just remembers like visions essentially she doesn't have like distinct memories So I'm like I'm I'm fine with that. It's like you can remember things vaguely when you're a kid Yeah Um, but they're just saying like she couldn't possibly have remembered Padme and it's like Their shad is willing to jump in because we could Want to have a chat with if you want What can star wars as you do? Uh Oh for fuck's sake molar. I can't keep up with efap no more I'm literally sitting home all day slow down and also tfa part three when also. Hi rags. No. How are rags? How's rags how's rags rags do all right? He's a little tired But I think I think two cinema wins videos will do that to anybody And uh, also watch the clone wars. Um, so tfa part three is on the way, uh, as perpetually it is, um I'll give you more significant updates when they become available. I suppose Hi Did you hear that? I mean, hey, she's a fan of efap. I don't know Well, he How you doing chat? I'm pretty good. How are you guys? Oh, you know watched three videos all Lumsily trying to either praise or rip down ride the skywalker as you do Oh gee, I caught the tail end of that last one Wolf I mean, they all suck come on Oh Yeah, how you guys mean I've been all right. Things are fine over here. It's a very very normal schedule at this point Just edit all the normal things nothing nothing crazy has happened except for that big crazy thing that happened that changed everything Oh that crazy thing. Yeah I saw your black plague video very interesting stuff Oh, yeah, I like, um And do it man rough That's some stuff it's like, yeah, I prefer living in the now, but then maybe they'll say that you know hundreds and hundreds of years from now I don't people ask me because I love the medieval period so much. They're like, hey shed So you would love living in the middle period when you're i'm like No I'd love to visit Just it's just your visit like that would be like a dream wouldn't want to live there Just yeah There are some nasty nasty things gosh Hey, if I've just done with air force basic hope rona isn't too harsh glad to see you tearing up people worse than any virus Thanks for the support guys um You bet yes Uh, mauler and narcissist confirm notice how he places himself in the center of his guests because he is the center of the universe in his own mind Well, I mean i'm on the side, you know of one and two now so not in the center So not applicable whatsoever No No, I mean like how it distributes the names as they're added to calls does it go like left right left right? I don't actually know how that works. I've never really paid attention, but hey It could be that I set it up that way I just show up I've heard you're into emulators mauler and was wondering if you've heard of the real-time corruptor It glitches games while you're playing them and it makes some interesting results much love I've never heard of it sounds cool though That's not interesting. I hope it's yeah. I hope the glitches are actually like, you know functional not like the game just stops working. You're like, yay We got you Time to trash disney's tainted garbage again woot I mean, yeah, it's uh Interesting how they can keep staying fresh with a lot of the arguments they make but yet still fall into the same traps Uh What are your thoughts on racism for or against? Oh, definitely for I mean, I'm I'm I'm for and I'm for super racism I would like to know the definition of racism Uh Is it just you don't like Is a bigotry based on race is what it would probably be to find out. I don't know Are they are they talking about racial stereotypes as being racist because You know stereotypes Prejudiced discrimination not all the times not all the times Prejudice discrimination or antagonism directed at someone of a different race based on belief that own the own your own race is superior That is that's I am against that And people should praise me for my virtue for stating Something because if I didn't state it people wouldn't know that I was against it All right, and and and if I didn't tell people not to do that they like they would be Incredibly racist their whole life. I'm sorry. That's yeah, so we've got one against one for super racism um Well, I'm completely against outside of hyper racism. That's where I'm like, oh, that's actually kind of fun one for hyper racism Um I also feel like I need to teach you guys just to like this is important information Don't rape. I'm not sure if you knew that or not, but I felt like you need to know that or a hyper rape Oh, oh, that's another story when you have like a giant laser A giant laser It makes sense Laser coming from where laser That's that's not up for me to explain We were expected Have you ever watched or read the magicians thoughts? No, I haven't No, I have not I don't know what that is Hang on. Is that the book from ray mini feist magicians from It's the they were they called it the magicians. I don't know the magicians Because magician by ray mini feist is a brilliant book. I read it. I need to reread that actually but that one's top notch Up touch up touch favorite episodes of angel from seasons one through four Okay, I'll do one per season. So one is five by five two is probably epiphany or um Uh, no probably epiphany three That would be Loyalty, um Yeah, that's probably what I commit to on that one four would either be Spin the bottle or orpheus and then five Well, you didn't include five, but I'm including five not fade away and then a hole in the world following up Not that anybody has any idea what I'm talking about other than the person who asked that question Well, that's the one person to whom it matters the most that is true Random question just because we're on tv series briefly. Have any of you guys watched uh person of interest? No, no, no, I haven't Because I'm really I really enjoy it. I'm rewatching it and it's good. I like it. Just putting that out there. It's worth it. Give it a go Also racketeer, that's an excellent choice too. It's okay. I I understand Uh, you should get bandit incorporated on e-fap That name is familiar. I'm uh, I'm not sure what they do I don't know if he makes pretty good self like uh He made that video. I don't know if you you probably might have seen the thumbnail The women are ruining star wars like he has like very inciting like thumbnails that kind of like can trigger people like He gets a lot of subreddits going but his videos actually are pretty good from what I've seen at least He's right though. It's all women. They ruined everything Not just stars Do you think ryan johnson intentionally broke the 344 word naming convention by naming his film the last Jedi instead of a forward title? Uh If ever he broke anything There's a good chance. It's either malicious or he's just an idiot. It could be anything You never quite know um I've seen arguments for how you could like trade around the names Of the sequel trilogy and it would be better like the last Jedi for the first The force awakens for the second or the rise of skywalker for the first It was it was a couple of interesting ideas of how you could swap them and they probably would match better than they currently do but Whatever we got what we got Um Wait a minute the ship fin is on when he gets the feeling would need to have space horses already on it for some Reason, why would they have them? Uh, they had space horses ready for when they were going to attack the ground Uh tower that was their plan Because they do it by when they're setting up the fight. They're like, what about ground forces and then fin goes I have an idea for that like Gonna be horses as opposed to what they were gonna use them for No, so the later. I don't know why they had the horses in general I'm guessing it was just they just had them on that um that death star Planet, right? The the girl had them. It was those creatures. I guess So it was one of the one of the many moons of endor wasn't this wasn't the one that we know Oh Okay, it makes tolls because there were horses on endor in one of their classic, you know star wars side movies Ewoks fight battle for indoor. You see horses Um, what's been everyone's favorite moment of efab so far? Oh Oh gosh, I don't know. There's so many number one moment of stuff I love door to 66. They are whole you know ensemble review of uh rise of skywalker. That was that was great. That was a good one Um, I don't know maybe the birth of the don mean was pretty great I liked uh The 54 when we were covering Um, that was the one where we were covering, uh, quinton, right? Yeah Yeah, that was a good episode. We talked about gunning for specific moments not episodes Uh, the island flag going through the flags was really really funny Uh, I really really enjoyed that Uh, let's see The dawn that was pretty good Oh, yeah, I mean uh Birth of the dawn, yeah I would uh probably that video that when me rags and wolf are doing the video memes the one that was like very I don't know wholesome and celebratory about efab as a whole That was me. Yeah, that was good There's just so many Yeah, I was gonna say it's kind of hard because otherwise we're just gonna start naming all the funny bits so When when das bullshit accidentally said McMuffin. Yeah, that's pretty good Ocean man, of course Sorry rags reaction to that was crazy. You almost died. Oh, yeah, the ocean man meme Oh my gosh I don't think I've ever laughed that hard in my life It was just the right the perfect Lightning in a bottle mixture of silly and topical that and the island man play Let's not say what you can create deliberately. Let's just it was just the right thing at the right time Everyone has their island man For me it was akbar in space Um, yeah, that's probably a selection Uh, britta unlawfully ate fresh subway did nothing wrong. That is a community reference and Wow, how many brought that up what seven hours ago? Yeah, that's all right Community's great. I love it. Yeah, it's awesome. Is buffy worth watching if you hate the mcu hmm The thing with the mcu is that it's uh, you got a whole different set of Quality all over the place. I don't know if Yeah, it's kind of because this is the thing. I I hate or very much dislike or think is shit of much of the mcu so you know I don't know. I I don't really relate buffy in the mcu. They're very different Uh, you can see how the guy who made avengers made buffy an angel, but I wouldn't uh Wouldn't really connect them Shout out to fat jumbo deleting several years of videos Wait matt jobba's deleted several years of videos Why? Oh, is it because It's his like origins being, uh Anti fjw and he's getting rid of that. Well Um, I don't know. I don't know anything about that interesting though Who even knows what that man would rationalize? Uh Hack was wondering if you could Say as plink it. Oh, I'll uh I'll try and keep that a little pad In case he returns Um Yes, buffy is worth watching new one not so much New buffy. Oh, you mean the potential reboot or One In return of the jedi 3po states it's against his programming to impersonate a deity yet He does it anyway when luke tells him to later Is this a bigger flaw for return of the jedi or for trust, uh for the sith dagger nonsense Well, when he says it's against his programming, you don't know if that means like in a Binary way or some kind of I think they would try to make a point about like a potential droid belief system Like you shouldn't impersonate a deity. It's bad almost like as a man who's like He doesn't want to do it because it's like it's rude or like like it's morally like unethical or something like that Like that's that's kind of how I proceed. I think it's supposed to be a funny Not like a actual serious declaration because this is the thing in in tros. It's actually plot related That he can't and that everything changes based on that Um Like it's speak what what's translated on there is like that or it's like he does do it So it's like it's there's a little more reasonable. Yeah More I've actually watched all of community this past week had some issues here and there but overall great rat Agreed. I think it's well worth watching Even including the rougher seasons And you know survive it. It's fine uh This one's just a slice of pie Oh, oh, that's that sounds good. Yeah good slice of pie. Yeah, what type of pie? I my guess It's I mean, it's you could all you can see is red so uh Cherry pie cherry could be cherry It could be um Raspberries radish pie blood pie blood pie. Yeah could be uh I don't know what's red could be ketchup pie in In the efap where you went over the tros leaks rags jinxed the mandalorian saying it would be hard for them to fuck this up I did well on rags I didn't mean to at least I gave my future self content Mary Mary hubert intercourse kill Uh, this selection's all potential spoilers even talking about the existence of any of these characters But it's all about buffy daigle. Uh, oh then never mind. I mean, I'll answer it Okay, but uh rags will have to wait. So just make sure to ask this again once you know He's seen the show. Okay, but um so Kill Oh, you get two each for each of these. Okay, so Okay, I'm marrying lawn And probably willow human intercourse Oh, I mean so we have to kill no, it's too hard. They're all good people I uh, it's the the I want to bury all of them pretty much, but uh, I guess I'll kill kill faith and cordelia. I'm not gonna say my reasons because it would be spoilers And uh human intercourse fred and buffy, I suppose I don't know. It's it's it's complicated and to explain any of it. I would have to go into loads of loads of tisms Uh, what would you say makes season five angel work so well? It's extremely well written In all of the ways that I've talked about on this show mattering. I would say, um Not to mention all the repairs they do to uh past mistakes. Let's say in the previous season Um Yeah, it's good. It's good shit without getting into more specifics There's this growing demand for me to just talk about buffy and I don't know how to do it um Like without like with who and when and what format because it wouldn't work for any five episode until rags has actually seen it But um, I'll just keep baiting people. I'll keep making them seem think as though It's uh, it's a really good show and then they have to just go and see all of it before they can say otherwise That's my devious plan Yeah, ania wasn't in the listing. I'm sorry I don't know what to say, uh Which infinity stone do you want to have? Hmm Quality probably Yeah, reality sounds really good But if we go from the movie and it's just you get to make things look different This is But it but it yeah, it does more than just make them look different. He uses the reality stone to Change tracks into a pile of rubble and Mantis True it It was the second he leaves it stops. So I don't know if you could change this forever That was my question. Is it permanent though? These don't be pretty nice like you able to go All these stones are very unclear and exactly what they do Well, exactly like the um, uh, space stone the infinity one like, you know, the test rack one That creates what a scarlet witch it also creates, um Quick silver and That was the mind stone that did that one Oh She just don't know what does what and they're like How like you think the power stone would be the one that could give other people powers But the space stone or the their mind stone. Yeah, the stone stone can can actually mind power people too Uh, let's see a space stone reality stone power stone the mind stone the time stone time stone I mean, it depends on what we're able to do with the time stone I guess like at what are our limits? Is it only reversing things that have just happened? I mean, that's still pretty useful. That's for this way if I could live my daily life with a time stone that lets me go back Uh, even 20 seconds Still do it Yeah, I mean you can you can go anywhere I just like it it removed the reason for a car you could go places instantly It's like it'd be useful and I think it'd be the least dangerous like I don't think which one do you think I think it'd be the most Which one do you think it could be the most altruistic with? Um, probably the let's see um Let's take a look here Um, I'm trying to find a list that has a I think the soul It helps with life like you can control life or something like that I they don't they don't never show it being used inside of the movies. That's the trouble. So I don't know exactly the mechanics So I'm trying to You'd think that it'd be really easy to find out what its powers are capabilities. Okay The space stone grants the wielder absolute control over space itself. Thanks. That doesn't help It is primarily used to open portals to other locations and can even allow interdimensional travel It creates captain marvel because goot isms. It's like, oh wow That's such a crap origin for heater Okay, so let's go back to the next so the next stone is reality stone capabilities Uh, that that's the absolute control over reality itself. However, like All other infinity stones due to it being the most powerful artifact in existence It can only be wielded by beings of sufficient power and inside beings Of no powers It will inevitably kill them as evidence with Jane foster It's it's power so great that it's capable of affecting reality on a universal scale um permanently It says that uh As malekith would have been able to use the stone to cover the whole universe in darkness It is also indestructible as not even the immensely powerful Thor wielding mjolnir could destroy it um Let's see So the mind stone is the what is the odd one out because it can be destroyed Just because yes the mind stone The powers of the mind stone are due to do capabilities It can take it The mind stone grants whoever holds it complete control over the hearts and minds of others Can it keep you super speed? This is quick silver got super speed from it Um at its core the stone contains a highly advanced network intelligence framework akin to an incredibly powerful super computer Operating similarly to a sentient mind the stones intelligence is powerful enough to enhance and simul spontaneously grant sentience to the artificial beings Ultron and vision It possesses a form of sentience with a stone directly communicating with vision in order to warn him of the coming threat of Thanos Um, it could dominate the minds of others place them under control of the wielder and loyal to their commands indefinitely Um Yeah, you could control people change their minds stuff like that Uh, and let's I guess we look up what the time stones abilities are um The time stone is among the most powerful artifacts in all existence do its power cannot be held the news blah blah blah I mean contain it a device capable of harnessing its powers such as the eye of agamoto or the infinity gauntlet The stone's power uniquely manifests in the form of mystical green runes mannered blah blah blah tell me what it does Um, the user is able to physically control and redirect the flow of time and can specifically select the exact area Which to manipulate without affecting those outside its selected range Uh, this can range from a small apple to the entire timeline itself huh Interesting, so yeah, these infinity stones are a huge problem with the marvel infinity or yeah, these these these stones are super tizm The hyper ridiculously powerful That's again That's why I would go with the space stone because like the the reality stone and the the time stone like those seem Super risky like I I wouldn't I wouldn't want all that power because I'd be worried that abusive. I'm just like I'll just It actually says Stone is the riskiest one to use Why as long as you avoid interdimensional travel, wouldn't you be okay? Well, um So I feel like it says here that let me scroll back down to it um Let's see that's that out of all the artifacts in odin's vault. It was the only one that managed to impress hella Uh, like with all energy, uh, like with all infinites infinity stones It can only be used safely by beings of sufficient power Lessor beings are quickly consumed by it to the point of being banished into the depths of space through a wormhole as evidenced with The red skull being quickly consumed by it when he touched it and was then transported to vormir Steel is quickly melted through by touching it and specialized the blah blah blah blah um Let's see. Yeah, it's uh I was about to say that's the case with a lot of the infinity stones Like I think the soul stone is the only one like hawkeye wields that but like pretty much all the other ones like You need to be like sore or like dr. Doom or someone who can like wield them like safely You can't just be like when it comes to the stones the power stone and the space stone seems to be the ones that Are the most unstable The power stone like that people just they explode when they do that like that's that happening in guardians of the galaxy. So, yeah Anyway, I wouldn't know what to do with that So big brain moment with the reality stone. Could you create a version of one of the other stones on top of it? I mean you can come up reality do anything you want like yeah, but it says that the one of it says here that the uh Mind stone the reality stone is indestructible, but then he uses the stones to destroy the stones So I feel like the stones are almost like a given Counter to their own rules Also, couldn't you get more stones by interdimensional travel to? Or you could use time travel to get stones from previous times to Well, I mean they literally do that in the movie. So I would probably do time or the mind stone time or the mind Or yeah, probably time. Yeah, probably time. I could use the mind stone for reasons Carry on very well. Uh, well, yeah, I guess if I was to choose one then I don't know They're all so dangerous is the big problem with it, but And choose the pussiest stone I mean, I kind of want I feel like I could do the most good with the Time or space one I get because space imagine all the moving of things you can do so quickly That could probably helpful for people I'll do reality or power a stone. Give me the power and that can KO anyone True if you can KO captain ball Exactly if you can KO captain ball they can KO anyone Uh doth babu made the clothing for creamy sheave when he gave the good suck in his wizard feelers All right Thanks for that super chat. Yeah Uh everyone that showed up to help use I'm sorry everybody that showed up to help use to sex lando Oh used to sex him. I think that's what they're saying. They're all his exes in all those ships. We're all his children. Yes Uh, did you see pyrocynicals 2 hour far cry 3 video? No, no, but apparently he's a long one. He's a long Did you know robocop is in mortal combat 11? Give me rent Um, I had no idea. I don't generally keep up with world combat or combat or fighting games. It's not really my genre Uh, I'd heard of uh That but I've also heard that there's controversy going on with all combat 11 and I'm not up on the up on the tisms with that one Uh long man. Good. Well, thank you very much. Yes. We're the long men are out of good good heart Hi rags Hello, what are your favorite gangster films? My favorite uh, pootie tang is pry up there. I mean, it's all gonna be the expected answers like good fellas and Oh, I was kind of assuming that's what they mean by gangsta. Yeah Yeah, I Is the untouchables count I feel like it should the good. That's uh, robertineer was our component that right? Yeah, that was a cool little role and shawn connery was I remember liking him a lot in that movie shawn conner Yeah um What else we got what's what several words we've only got uh Evan what what do you reckon? What's your favorite gangster movie or movies? um, I I need to see more admittedly, but um, obviously like like you said, it's the obvious stuff like the godfather I do love good fellas like scorsese and capola stuff or solid. Um, I just need to explore around a little more Yes, um does I'm forgetting like what if they were what would they're uh Genre be but like lock stock and snatch I don't know if they could be considered gangster Yeah, the the uh I guess the Irishman, uh, it could be could be some people's wouldn't wouldn't necessarily be one of mine. I found it a little slow I'm so sorry I like the departed a lot, but a lot of people have been telling me it's a ripoff So now I need to re reaffirm what what's going on there before I continue to push that movie Infernal affairs like it's remaking that movie, right? So does it I guess any any praise that's delivered to departed people feel should be redirected to internal affairs then I guess I've seen it The uh macabre story telling actually made a video. He's he thinks that that film is bad I I I saw it a while ago, but I think he presents a few decent arguments, but yeah Or some people think that movies um all right So yeah, uh, let's take it with pootie tang Rags, thanks for the elo suggestions. Oh, you bet. You're welcome. Mola love the rage videos Uh, well, cool. I'm glad you're enjoying them. Also welcome back backfraud media Hello, um, I have returned We had someone one sent in a super chat asking for you to uh use your voice and say that I suppose Let's see what I got here. Don't feel obligated. It's okay I'm just uh reading me Let's see here Star Wars is So bad Even a lucas film says pick and choose canon Guess he used back baby. Yeah, that's actually true It's all fake anyway It's all fake anyway. Don't don't worry about it Christmas is is better than halloween, but mola is better than rags. Oh Wow, that is not that is not true. Also hierarchy Hello Uh, oh my god, it's the guy with the best tlj takes Uh, yes, very true. I mean, I feel like we've all got the best tlj takes come on Uh bang marry kill as star wars prequel sequels at ot So kill the sequels That was a I think Most people agree. Uh, probably marry the ot and bag the prequels. Yeah Anyone else going down? That's accurate All right, then Thoughts on back to the future trilogy Well, I know that j recently put out a tweet saying that the second one is highly overrated I've always been fond of all three movies and I'd have to watch Well, all of them again to be sure of uh Where I stand on them, but yeah, I've always been very positive about them and I was surprised to see his tweet and offended, of course At times travel paradoxes make my brain hurt There you go the first one I I honestly heard that the second two weren't very good, but I but I love the first and I was like, okay I'll just I'll just stick to this. I didn't seem to need and going down and but I'd have to see him before I maybe could my mind I always thought it was uh, people loved one really loved two and then three was kind of eh, but Apparently, um, everyone's got different sort of memories on the consensus on him uh Second time seeing a second time ever seeing you're alive, but I need to sleep No problem Rags molla stop saying quagon would join dooku I I didn't say he would I say he might he'd consider it. He'd think about it. I don't think I ever said it Yeah, I don't think he'd instantly be like no, I would never I think he'd definitely have a He'd certainly hear dooku out especially when dooku would have told him That hey the like the senate and the sith like there there's a sith controlling the senate and all that sort of thing because at this point The the connections are kind of a little murkier than they are later on And I think that quagon would be like well, I guess we have to In order to get rid of the sith, maybe we have to work with the separatist guy a little bit I don't know too much about the separatists apart from the wanting to leave the republic and uh if that if if it was just on that surface level that they just wanted independent government and um Self autonomy and stuff. I'd probably be on the side of separatists As far as I know that's sort of it They they want to leave Stiles brexit I suppose we'll have to see it battled out in the future Who was right though? I would have loved to have seen a conversation between dooku and quagon that'd probably be pretty interesting. Oh, yeah Um 54 15 check out posh prick reviews. He liked tlj, but hated r.o.s. And he blames the fans for its sucking Oh, yeah, the rise of skywalker. Definitely what the fans wanted I'll never get that one At least people like ball are happy if like no Love at least they answer these questions if they explain this the hyperspace works this way It's like those aren't good solutions It's still bad Quagon and dooku are gray, but one of them is gray jedi who do things for greater good And one of them is gray sith who do things for himself bill bow I never understood the whole gray white jedi thing because it's not the movies I know it's like probably explained in out of canon and like a soka. Is it is she a gray jedi? I should become a white force. Yeah, I don't know stuff. What was so dooku was in it for himself I mean, I thought he was passionate about Uh, yeah separating from the republic He was the one who told Obi-Wan the the senate was under the influence of a sith Unless that was just misdirection to try to get him on his side in order to try and overthrow poverty Well, it's true like Yeah All right, we just so yeah, I I don't know what's selfish about count dooku. Maybe I'm forgetting A line and a line here He seems to be what was uh Ploku loon pook loon pooku pookie. Oh pookie says that Count dooku is a political idealist So he definitely has political like reasons and stuff why he's doing what he's doing and they don't seem to be unreasonable He was done really dirtily by palpatine and then he just took it. He just like you know palpatine says kill him He just he just bent over and let him Right up the rear just let like I was like wait quick before you kill me uh palpatine's a sith lord And I've been taking my orders from him all along Yeah, you didn't stand up from soth at all. So yeah, dooku Uh Act fraud media greater than cuck letter media. Oof Oof Damn Truffle Oh my goodness Ideally episode 10 would open with some rando walking up to ray with a desert eagle Not one mocked up to look like a blaster Just a regular desert eagle and unloads the entire mag into her head and then the film continues like nothing Very violent um Hey mauler, thanks for the soma dissection. I adore that game. You are a very graceful content creator, but more importantly high rags Hello Um, glad you enjoyed it. Soma one was one of the one of the meaningful breakdowns I made and I was happy with how it turned out Even if I did use the the hideous insult that was directed at joseph anson. I I regret every day. I whip myself Uh, say hello to my thick black friend tig bitties Okay, tig bitties tiggle beans Uh started watching buffy about a month ago and I just and it just got good early on in season three with episodes Like ban candy amends and helpless yeah, I mean Dems is some good ones season three is a good ride Pretend that you want to get wrapped and see how you liked it. They had to phrase it that way for super chest um Just completed bl bl bl three, but The black lamb blue bleep battle battle lambs bad bundle Big lamps three I love me some big lamps Blanking help me out guys big battle Belching leviathans three Feels borderlands. That's probably it borderlands three after beating the final boss. I got those these line Do you think she'll be back? Well, we killed her and she turned to ash. So yeah, maybe I just laughed and yeah palpatine A yelled palpatine. Yeah, it's a good line. I was from fred the cosmic chicken Oh fred Uh oi moly the iron man three praise you teased on twitter as well as why age of ultron is the best avengers movie. Give me that also ho rags Those are not videos i'm going to make Except on maybe april ful's day Also, uh, you don't you don't say anything back rags or Ho rags that's I said I made the noise. I was like, oh Oh It was like a ho back. I must I always give a ho back Uh obi one pretend. This is what you wanted. Literally everyone. Nah, why is why is obi one the one saying that? I'm gonna picture. We're in the movies. He would even say it. I do not know But how do you pretend it made you feel Hmm Act fraud media man your vids on tlj are well edited well written and very funny like you're smart and you know what you're doing Like you're smart and you know what you're doing But i'm sorry the jedi are religion No, you're wrong They aren't real life Right, I think oh, yeah in real life. They're definitely a religion Uh, if you've never been forcibly bent over a table, how do you know you won't like it? Oh my These these super chats are getting out of hand There's more than two of Just pretend that you wanted queeny to drug and hit trick artha into marrying here and in the crimes of grindlewald Bring harry potter shit nerds Talk about man stuff like star wars Yeah Pretend this is what you want. This guy sounds like a great apologist Oh, see everybody goes there straight away You can't not I guess Just jump to that. It's like, okay. We'll we'll take it to that degree sure Uh, did you ever want to date with a girl and you didn't like it ever even when you want something it can be disappointing So no, I won't pretend anything. Yeah, you shouldn't pretend anything. It's weird Uh It liar to the jews pretend you want this Hey, man, it's harmless with a film because nobody's getting murdered. Okay Pretend do you know about that shadi said basically about palpatine? Just pretend you want it and see if you like it I was gonna say it sounded like I missed a doozy. Yeah in this video. Wow. It's like the first argument of this video Okay Just pretend you want it I Mean, you know That is a desperate reach that one Gosh Um, I know you stay away of animu, but watch episode one of kill la kill It has a hero's journey on first episode on the series has great characters in plot Uh I have actually watched the first episode of kill la kill and I can barely remember anything about it But I have watched it. I like there you go. Shad told us not to he told us to avoid it. There you go Shad confirmed animes garbage damn the best part of that episode is when she bites into a lemon Oh She's such a badass Uh Act fraud media I want I want to know what's wrong with I will not let this republic that stood for a thousand generations line It seems a decent exposition Well for one thing it's contradictory Just because something is old doesn't mean that it's worth, you know, maintaining That'd be my thought because it originally obi-wan says for over a thousand generations and then In the uh, the prequels he says over a thousand years So it's contradictory. The second thing is is that it's really boring like that all of that that dialogue that's in there is just so boring In the quote he says thousand generations, but I don't know if If he says a thousand years in the prequels on you Uh, I think blanket actually brought that up the real blanket. Hmm Not to be confused with you Not to be confused with me, which is bargain blanket And it ends with rag stop derping Derping I do not derp. He is not a derber. I'm not a derber I'm pretending tfa part three is out. It's not working. No, just pretend You're not pretending. You just got to really you gotta believe Uh The sounds sound when they're supposed to equals on point Well, it's a it's a cinema win when you've got the sound being soundy Oh my god, you guys got the real mr. Plinkett Uh, I'm wiki on a hello grito cringe compilation. His background music is driving me insane and now I also hate storm troopers Have you seen creepy sheaves new movie be myself and stoke the hair gel pot shows how creepy sheave is Oh my god, I know that reference. Do you guys know that reference? You know there's something about wait There's something about mary is the one I was actually thinking of the hair gel thing Because me myself and Irene that's the one with uh jim carrey, right? but that I'm thinking of the when cameron dies's hair gets stuck up. I don't know like the I'm mixing two scenes together from two movies ignore me Uh When did flimpus and flimple dingus become a part of your vocabulary usually? No idea it predates efap though. It was something me and bell would fuck it around with for a long time Uh, but I have no idea why or how it started Also, what's your guys favorite iron maiden songs if you have one? uh in Inline between love and hate and I was There's a couple it's um Is it iron maiden as well? I did uh They did a song that I really like avenge sevenfold covered it for some reason I can remember that they did that But I can't remember the name of the song There's a lot I like from iron maiden. Um, anyone else listen to them here while I think about what songs I like I don't listen to much music. Come on. Fortunately I think I've heard one song from iron maiden Yeah, not a big iron maiden guy myself So sorry if that's what they were looking for iron if iron maiden you have failed them rags failed them Oh, well Uh, but yeah loads of good songs power slave was the album. I think that was from yeah good stuff. Um the album that Thin line between blood and hate blood and hate love and hate is on also has a few of my other favorites on it I'm blanking on the names right now. I'd have to check them Uh, you guys just don't understand that if you pretend it's good, then it is good. Okay all seriousness You guys a great help me through some stuff. Have you seen the series wacko or waco on netflix? No, no, I haven't seen that don't really watch uh, don't really watch netflix This is really mixed I I only chose they're like they're recommended highly so I don't think I even I'm not sure I've heard of it might have um EFAP is gone from the sub box just now. What did you guys say? I bet it was rags, wasn't it? Um, looks like we didn't get as much time this time compared to others, but yeah, we got knocked off quite quickly Really would be curious how it works, but uh, it honestly seems like a roll of the dice uh See movie look good. So movie good. What even is writing just appreciate the vistas I mean, I don't I don't disagree with any of that seems true to me It's like in the pretty lights and colors and clap like good boy and consume the product Show the popcorn in your face Sometimes movies do try and focus on a heavy visual element for itself like um, the space obviously one Was a nice I forget the 2001 Very much like being sold on really the visuals and the music and the the plot itself was very thin and Writing I mean and there are some movies I can enjoy just for the visual component Usually the action scenes like um, there's a three musketeers movie that has a lando bloom in it and the writing is horrible But the choreography was so enjoyable. It's like hey, this is a fun movie because it's so sometimes Mad Max through road is a great example of that like there's a ton of action in that movie But I said the storytelling is also pretty on point too Yeah, and even if it has a thin story it is as long as it's consistent and you know conveyed well, that's fine as well Um, yeah What share do you all use to stay comfy for so long? Um, I have no idea what the make of my chair is I'm afraid um Secret lab titan Yeah I gotta let me Go and check the model of it real quick. It should be in my orders I just got a random chair. I didn't buy like a I don't know. I just bought a chair Take me just a moment Search our orders chair This is a Ewin uh I try to find what the name is uh calling series I guess this what it's called. It's a It doesn't have just like a name for it. It's called I hate it when like products don't just have a name They're all these complicated Because the name of it is Ewin gaming racing chair 330 pound adjustable tilt back angle and armrest ergonomic high back leather executive computer desk office chair calling series black gray Oh, that's a really catchy name Yeah, it really rolls right off the tongue It's uh, I like it. It's quite good. I've had um, I think it it's it's comfy. I like it a great deal highly recommend But that's that's what it is. So just type that into amazon And it'll probably come up with what I have What about you hack fraud media or you want like a stool? Uh, I'm I'm on a uh, rather expensive one of those fancy shamancy errand chairs You fancy yourself a royalty do you? Yes, of course And I deserve it Uh, maybe sinowins is the target demo of jar jar abrams. Also hi my ewoks. Hi rags Oh, hi. Hello Hello massives first-ever super chat buy critical a drink on me Sure and hi rags Hello Hi cunty, uh, please get mike j and rich from nerd crew. Oh, they really love star wars. I think also hi rags We'd absolutely get them on in an instant I'd love to hear about what personally makes them feel what they feel about things personally. That's kind of what I'd be I mean to find out Uh, youtube finally let me catch a live stream. Hooray. Also hi rags Hello I'm gonna waste some bleach for this man. Oh You'll stop that right there. It's not worth it Uh, she's a lumberjack and she's okay. She sleeps all night and she works all day Oh, wait, it's ray. She didn't work for anything. Never mind It was like a rhyme that it just gave up Uh Rags why are you upside down? Oh and hi Hey I'm upside down. Um, I don't know if I'm ready to steal the beans on that quite yet I mean all of us are facing away from the screen you see but rags was like, no, I want to see what's going on up there Yeah, are you an australia rat? Wait, does that mean the shads icon's been upside down this whole time It would make sense because the sword would be right side up if it was to be floating You guys didn't know that. Oh my god Um Thanks for the entertainment on my morning hike. No problemo. Is it now your evening hike? I wonder how that works Uh, remember cloning is a sith secret. Oh, of course How could anyone assume anything else? Only the sith, yeah Win for win sest Yeah, that was the yeah, it was weird. Uh, when you brought up the Kind of kind of weirdly brought up that was a thought that was on all of our heads. I guess he was just like, oh, is it? Oh He's asking logical questions quick kill him Alien gave mardi gras beads, but she has no hooters Oh, I get it. That's that's you don't just know how it works over in that planet you put beads on because You have to tell them your your your surname. I think that's how it works over there And ray just said I'm ray. So she kind of broke that rule. That's why they're gonna come and hunt it down in the future It's gonna be a great episode 10 He did it Should I give this film another go? Nah No No No, watch anything else. You'll be all right Um Oh, yeah, I suppose I should ask I already know the answer this can be they feel like I'm gonna So obvious but hey shout you there Yes, yes indeed. I'm here. What's better Christmas or Halloween? Gee, this is a significant question. Do you want to wait until I'm like a longer Term guest and I'll I'll go and give my detailed answers on that Oh, I just figured it would be an obvious. I figured you go for Christmas at a hard piece That there's greater detail required for my answer. Oh, is it that you would but you want to explain why? Yeah, I do I want to go into detail. So next time I'm uh, I get an official long longer guest where we'll look at the video Ask me then. All right, very well I'll I'll save it. This is a significant question Uh, isn't 3po either luke or layers droid so surely they would be trusted to be able to read sith He doesn't belong to ray Well, 3po says it's a republic ruling that was brought in the implication being if the republic say protocol droids can no longer uh Read out sith to anyone. They press a button and that just applies to all protocol droids everywhere I don't know. I don't see it doesn't make sense. He said it makes 100 sense. I don't believe that it does That's that's that's all we got Uh, this movie makes one out of zero sense A one one out of zero percent sense. All right, yeah The sith language is not black speech from lord of the rigs They imply it could summon stuff. That's what I find funny It will summon the sith demon of kakarek. You're like, oh my god Broad it to like he's like this will if the sith language is read it'll like unleash demons It's like why though like why who says this isn't just being writ for like a scroll written for scroll Oh, yeah Days days have passed since I sent this super chat a new dumbo still haven't watched hardcore. Henry shame shame It hasn't been days. It's been hours many hours, but still hours To quote John Lennon want to die Can you use force healing on yourself and if so Man, it would have been a good idea for luke to actually read the sacred jedi texts. Yeah Could you draw the life out of like critters and stuff like a little little turtle and you're just like You draw a hundred years out of it and it the transfer rate is like one year for a human to a hundred for a turtle But you can still get something So every jedi keeps a spare turtle in their Yeah, their wallet in case they ever need a little pick me up And there's this really good trilogy about a jedi that connects with this turtle and at the end of the trilogy He has to make a choice to kill the turtle and save himself or just die the Really really good And it's already Hello from France everyone I hope you're doing fine. Have you watched the clone wars animated series? If yes, what did you think about it? Anyone here done that Isn't a season and a half to season 10. I was in like I was enjoying it I didn't find anything phenomenal or deep about it up to that point Um, but I was enjoyable certainly But I've been watching the whole thing so I can't really give a definitive detail answer um Yeah, I mean I only saw Just over season one and I already feel like it's been a while now that Yeah, I think I was talking about it on e-fab. I was just like it's uh Not great But like I was told it gets way better um He wanted to scoop it off his windshield. I think they're referring to when he was trying to run over ray think Uh caught up on the last e-fab I can't believe that cosmo definitely proved that rose tico is a better character than count dooku. Truly incredible Yeah, did you know shad that count dooku is the worst character in all of star wars? Well, that's interesting. Yep. He is hot take there. He is outclassed by rose tico Oh, all right They could have done more with count dooku. Oh for sure I would have loved them to do more because he was a great little uh sort of start what they had was a you know great start A lot of people say to watch the clone wars, I guess, but More chris fili telling me about how the republic is the big gay Um As a member of the us air force, I'd say yes, that would work. I don't know what that's referring to What if she doesn't jump ha ha desert girl go splat Okay Yeah, that was something we all brought up during auto 66. It's like kylo's plan hard to figure out there Oh for a second there I was like kylo's not in the prequel shed Be like oh you mean the stream Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. I'm getting confused Um These winds are like zimbabweans inflated and worthless. Oh my goodness Imagine what shui is going through all of his friends are dead the kid He may be helped raised is dead. Are they gonna say that the family he had in the holiday special is dead as well Probably Just gonna outlive everybody Mm-hmm If you had a goofy repeating voice, how would it sound for a future efab game include everyone that you can So the way they talk in banjo kazoo is like uh banjo is like And then um Different characters like like the evil witch lady is like meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh that sort of thing So what would it be for us? Uh I have no idea like what would our what would our babelies be? Yeah, I guess so wouldn't rags be barking. Yeah I feel like what would mine be like? Long drawn out single tones Then as for everyone else I submit creative freedom because I have no idea I would need someone to tell me I don't think I could do it in a You know There you go, we saw it out three that's the best we could do Um spice is a thing that could be made into medicine, but it's also used to make drugs Ah So it is weed Yeah, boy There was tons of practical effects and miniatures in the prequels too. It wasn't all CGI Yes, they over relied on green screen, but jj flew to the jordan desert to put up a green screen Get rekt jj. Also. Yeah, he uh It is something to reaffirm that the prequels had a lot of practical systems I'm currently about one third done my script for a full review of the entire disney trilogy bringing up some criticisms I actually haven't really heard before do you have any tips? Also high rag Um outside of the usual stuff like redraft and Rewatch the thing you're going after and maybe think about what you're all you're gonna bring all the points together into final conclusiatory statements if that's even a word and Look through them see they'll make sense signposted for all things that are gonna come together um Make sure you ask your audience to pretend that they're liking your video before you start If you don't, don't forget to thank your sponsor raid shadow legends Yes, and ray con i've seen them popping up a lot lately the uh the the earphone things Ray con Hearing things on the go Deleted dialogue from an old darth uncar plots concept from the shadows a crimson light emanates I will reduce you into four quarter portion Okay Um, I still hold to my head canon that 3po was replaying images of luke han lair and chiwi anatu in his head when Reading himself for his bloody death Agreed he wasn't even looking at them um us base sec train not to cave to any credentials Oh us base secretary, maybe Trained to not cave to any credentials. I see what he's saying He said they wouldn't even be able to show them the credentials because they'd be like why are you in this awful ship? Like this this is ridiculous. This is not first order. You guys are doing something tisle me and there's like no No, I swear i'm i'm captain Because they said it's a captain's chip So surely it would have whatever particular captain was attached to it, right? It would scan and be like oh captain smith and then you see fucking ray and you're like um You don't look like what our records say captain smith looks like you're a lying Bad and then blows up the ship Um Winds is trying the jedi mine trick on us. It's okay that there's a bunch of death fake outs Well, like he said there's some some There's the death fake out in lord the rings with with gandalf and aragorn doesn't die when he goes over the cliff Therefore the sequel trilogy in lord the rings are the same now same thing Say you wave your hand when you do a jedi mine trick and he did quite a bit of hand waving. So yeah, I agree Hot take babu frik is overrated. Sorry rags I mean like I don't actually give a shit Just just so that we know just so that we're frank I was just I was not being as serious as I maybe could have I don't actually care about babu frik. I don't really care about this movie But he goes hey Yeah Don't you like that? He's got the same depth as uh pop pop from community. Oh, yeah, actually magnitude Magnitude that's the guy You remember his name is pop The only Uh, not another teen movie is a parody of she's all that it has chris evans in it. It's goofy That is true Not another teen movie is a parody of a lot of films if I remember it's like, you know the teen movie of No, this the scary movie of teen movies. That's what I was trying to say Fun french fact since 1800 women couldn't legally wear pants without an official authorization that law was forgotten since Since but only repealed in 2013 Well, I say no one wore pants. Yeah I'll take the bad with the good Uh thoughts on the tv show house md Feel like we answered that last stream, didn't we? Remember we talked about it friends remember house member member house. Yeah, I do The the quick version is really like the main character the acting from him is fabulous But the formula gets old pretty quickly and when they shake it up, it's neat I watched the whole show and thought it was okay overall. It's like, yeah thumbs up But man does that formula really just hang on for dear life Thoughts on robert patinson refusing to work out for his role in batman Don't like it. Not happy. I haven't heard the details about this as to why or if there's a but but I think Guys need like actors if they're doing batman, they should buff up for it. I was gonna say I'd be confused. I'd be like surely I'm trying to think of a context where it's okay And maybe it's like yeah, he's just recycling down until winding back up for you know a set date for actually filming I think the explanation like first of all It was a bounding into comics like article that said that and I don't trust them I'd need to go to the quotes But I think that that was it. He said like they're they've halted production like I I think the article said like he was given like an exercise ball and like a weight and he just says like he's He said he said he was afraid to get arrested by going outside It's some of the stuff that's going on and he's when he ran so I think it's I think he's winding down for now since they've halted production Yeah, I don't know the context of it and uh, I would have assumed there would be some type of explanation like that Robin Pattinson seems like a reasonable guy from what I know of him And I I enjoy you know, he's like he's acting a billion films and things I think he does a good job overall. And so I'm actually kind of uh, like I reckon he could do a good job with Batman So I'm looking forward to to see the adaptation of it Is that here? Sorry, have you guys heard robert's opinions on twilight? Because I I can imagine but no I haven't heard them He hates he was so happy Didn't uh, he used to date christen stewart and then she cheated on him or whatever Must have been fun That's his final farewell from twilight. It's like yay And uh return of the king is staying up finally high rags Hello Yes, it is it should stay up forever now. Hopefully Uh, yo of house duh. Oh, I get it. Yo of house da 225 00 apparently that's where we're at in regarding the remains of the death star They made that portion out of unexplodium as referenced in the book which book the book Unexplodium is has seems tech support standing by rag Yes, if anyone has any tech issues, you know, y'all I'm here. I'm so here and ready We'll walk you through this one one little tiny step at a time. That's what we do Uh, you asked for it. Disney says unzipping their pants. Oh my Okay, uh This doll this dollar is for rags. Only condition is he must yell hey, hey like barbu frick the next time he comes This was given today. Yes All right, that won't be too bad with this coronavirus thing. It's mostly been a Fairly personal affair for the most part. So all right. Yeah, you should probably be able to get away with doing that without embarrassing yourself Oh, yeah, absolutely Uh, so leia pretty much killed his son Well, no, she try she almost killed his son. She only ended up killing herself. It's fine Just whatever one wanted Unironically ben should have lived and ray died kylo could have changed back to ben and said he killed kylo How many people have seen him without his helmet again? I don't know if he'd get away with that I feel like you got fin and po would definitely gonna know a bunch of people would know And he could have built a new Jedi order or something I'm okay with him surviving uh and her dying. I actually think that is better I just don't know where he goes from there. I think it could be interesting actually to follow it, but Oh boy, he just wanted to kind of end he could like send Exile he would just like he'd leave and basically say like I've done so much that I like I don't deserve forgiveness Like that could be interesting, I suppose, but I would probably have him move out Go to a really far edge of the galaxy and get involved in some other completely other thing Kind of like god of war four where he moves from greek to norse mythology basically as if they're worlds I'd just be like, right. I'm gonna deal with this stuff now um Also, there was a theory that Han activated the lightsaber because he feared Snoke would harm Ben if he didn't Uh I was never confirmed like that. He killed himself that like I I think that that's bizarre But the tfa novelization killed that one Oh Thank god, who knows what dreams and Who knows what those novels It's all fictional anyway guys. God. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's all fake. It's all fake Uh Kylo thinks luke is the most despicable for wanting to kill him Also, kylo kills his own father because an ugly wrinkled sith turd told him to Yeah, it's really dumb Kylo like being all pissed at luke for failing him when kylo's done way worse shit There's what I mean I don't this is why when people are like, oh luke failed kylo It's like kylo chose to kill a whole bunch of students as a result of what his his You know teacher doing some weird shit while he was asleep almost killing him. It's like that doesn't Those things don't really follow. It's like clearly he wanted to kill people in the first place If that was all that it took to make him want to kill people fully Like he's even getting revenge So luke was right all along Yes, luke should have murdered him in his sleep. That's what we should have got. Could you imagine? Just piles of flashes like trust me he would have been able It's like master the skywalker. What happened to kylo? Um Now this is a chance for a lesson children Don't think about it He went to the veterinary school Yeah, the almond layer turned up to pick him up from school and they're like, what happened? He's like Uh, you're going home with a different kid now We got a spare for you Uh, has anyone pitched the idea of a movie about space children intended for wizards feel like it could be criticism proof Also rags. My dog says hi Oh, hello You should title it space wizard movie intended for children Space children meant for wizards. It feels like a documentary title in the sequel trilogy I Like the um Intended for wizards as well as like a that's an actual demographic. It just refers to old people that seem magical Can I just say that jedi's um, you know comparing them to wizards is not a good comparison Um might is a better example like wizards are clearly instead of the harry potter and like lord of the ring stuff But I think I think All right, sword with some type of magical powers. Maybe paladin. Uh, like uh, or something maybe around there not not a wizard Yeah, you gotta have a staff if you're a wizard everyone knows that Yeah, where's the at? Yeah, where's the wand? Bullshit, that's what it is Yes Uh Check out or automated thoughts channel. He's pro tlj tros captain marvel my And suicide squad his tism like arguments make me believe he's not in the same reality Wow There's always someone I guess That rags can accept people having more force than others force users, but not the same rule to inanimate objects What he's referring to how You're not accepting that planets can have more force related shit on them than others, but people can apparently that's an Is that something that I said? Uh, I mean, I feel like it's probably something that I was on board with I don't like the idea that there's just Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't like the idea that force like places are Like some place is a specific Force place. I thought the force was everywhere and I didn't think that the force would have connection to places Maybe I mean, I don't like it. I guess if I guess they could I don't like it Like I suppose I guess it could It's like super cut made. There are more mediclorians in areas Are there are there more mediclorians and swamps and stuff where there's lots of plants and things that are alive Certainly ones with force games and all living things Uh Oh, yeah, I guess there wouldn't be much force in space All dead out there This isn't in a film But lucas did help pan it in the yoda arc in the clomors. Dagobah is where he met Qui-Gon's force ghost and learned how to become a force ghost in turn All right If force ghosts had substance in the ot obi one would have forcibly restrained luke from flying off bespin flying off to bespin Um possible. I mean you could couldn't you make the argument that yoda could have done that I think they're letting him make his choice Yeah, exactly. I've I've thought about that like yoda could technically destroy the like first of all He wants him to be able to escape. He doesn't want to strain him there forever That's why they I mean i'm guessing that's why he left the The x-wing instead of the swamp at first is to try to keep him there and train a little bit but I mean Yeah, I figured they just wanted to make let him have his choice and maybe learn as less than even if it cost them They say there is another so You'd actually think yoda could have teamed up with obi one shortly after their fights And gone after emperor palpatine and just took him out right away two against one in the prequels Yeah, it's like what they just kind of gave up like oh, I lost a I lost a slight save a fight I better go into hiding. Yeah, there's a lot of you just have to sort of Infer as much as possible There's a little bit of losing the element of surprise I suppose like they they both of them like kind of interacted with them It's just a matter of can you make the argument the last thing that expect is for us to try again They think we'd run away You kind of would be thinking you'd be running into a suicide mission though I don't know how you do it after that point without like running to a bunch of clones When they first got there they were attacking a whole bunch of clones outside the jedi temple like to me That's like well the jigs already up. They know you're around Enough Not like they sneaked in Basically what I'm saying is the empire's reign and all the deaths that you know, they caused is solely at the feet of obi-wan and and yoda it's their fault Look, it all makes sense because There's mistakes in other movies, which means that there's allowed to be mistakes of any kind in any frequency and anything That's how it works Even though he refers to them often as perceived whatever had quotates lots of things. He's a funny contact for a set of words a day It's so funny, man Really, I would be very interested to talk to him because I I'm curious what he thinks about objectivity and what he thinks about About the argumentation what his channels for Force projection exists in rebels was no teleporting objects It wasn't so much projection as much as visions and talking to each other I think quint actually brought that up and in the the t-ro video Did no one tell rey about luke's heroism stalling kylo or did all that time pass By with a little miss wraith sue thinking of luke just died on an island. She saved them alone I don't it's not even clear what they know luke did or didn't do they just know he's dead. I think Peace Because they they see him turn up in front of like the whole army I guess and then they just I don't know if any of them stayed to watch and then went back to them. They're like Yeah kylo like Put his lightsaber through him And he was just like not bothered by it at all and then he just slowly faded away I think leah would be like oh like obi one. I guess He'd be like no if anyone knows what that was. He's like no. He sort of just stood there. He was like a hologram Which again, I don't know how that would spread as a story. I don't know like imagine you guys rolled like a Down trodden area of even in slavery and like this heroic story where a bunch of people are trying to escape and this one dude Turned up to stop an army and you're like, whoa, how do you do that? Well, he wasn't really there And you just have silence because you're like go back to the beginning. I guess I'm not following Yeah, well, he was like a hologram. He he thought really hard and he turned up to this place as like a ghost Like why didn't he go there himself? well he Stracted them. He was he was stalling them. He's like, why couldn't he stand in person? Yeah, because he wanted to be a ghost Oh It's really inspiring. I love I love how in the rise of skywalker, no one's inspired the like he even says that no one came It's like no one's helping them since Maybe the the new resistance is made up of those people who were inspired but We barely see any of that Off topic, but sm sterling has a trilogy of t2 sequel books from 2001 ish That I think do a good job of actually finishing the terminator story Fair enough. There must be better than what we got Is the dialogue ways in the prequels or the sequels? I would probably say prequels I might say the sequels in all honesty I think the sequels have very simplistic dialogue was like doesn't even attempt to reveal character like I I hate the way characters talk to each other in the movies. It's so challenge I would say prequels just for the dialogue itself. They're really stilted Yeah, I'd also have to say prequels, but it's really hard to say because the prequels were much more like Strange as far as like and me me just specifically because it's yeah, it's It's more of a delivery problem That's what I say. I'm like, I think it's Acting like maybe it's a little worse directed than it is written like because I think there are some decent scenes inside of the prequels It's just you don't get that as much inside The sequels are just dry. Like there's nothing to Democracy to the republic Just replayed both Kotal games. They are fantastic. A shame that second one got cut significantly The deconstruction of the force in Jedi is superb Um, yeah, good stuff Nosweather mohler. Hello also high rags Hello Hi Evan Oh, hello, okay This is a high dry unka like they separated it out. I don't know why but uh, I'm sure you'd say hi back Hi hack for media Hello, hi mohler. Hello Uh, I mean if I see Diabeto running, I know he's a villain Ah I forgot that was happening. Yeah also rags. If you saw Diabeto running You'd be like, what the hell is he running from what could be so terrible that he is running to get away from it Or maybe there's like a cake in the distance Uh, also rags. Some people do eat 20 calorie 20 k calories a day. They're strong men. However, I doubt they eat 5 k calories of mickey d's Yeah, I doubt they would do that This one just I doubt they would do that This one just says rags Oh, hello. Well, there you go Who's the best waifu? Bastilla from kotor liara slash tali from emmy Yennefer or tris from witcher or ana from metro in the name of science. I need an answer. All right. I will okay Let's run through that. Hang on. I'll copy and paste you it. You can go and all right run your experiments and figure out the correct answer Hello to critical drinker evan hack ford media as well. Thank you all for joining us today Always pleasure Evil run equals movie bob running I don't know. I feel like he wouldn't run as much as I feel we'd have to make him a hover sort of thing Like the controlling of sugar like we said Remember the bounces Yeah, that too. That's an option Remember the stupid ben solo challenge on twitter where people posted vids of themselves pulling a lightsaber from behind their back and shrugging I I didn't know that was a thing There's some people This is like I it wasn't even that big of a trend. It was just like whatever sure All right, so I I had to look up bestilla from couture and ana from metro So um of all these I think the three strongest are um jennifer tolly and liara Um, I really like tolly as a character Seeing her change and getting her dialogue and her perspective on things over three games is really really excellent Really really like tolly is a character um, I like jennifer's confidence and her Uh, he's very shrewd very clever But you know in the end a lot a lot of the things she wants, you know, simple things, you know, but she's very competent Uh, and I really really really like that and liara is uh kind of the dark definitely the darkest of the three Uh, but that's kind of attractive in its own uh kind of way um But I I have probably if I had to pick one of the three Probably would go for jennifer or tolly Probably leaning towards jennifer though There we have it the correct answer has been revealed Uh So was this or the tlj wins video worse? Oh my god, that was like e-fap. I want to say 11. Do you even remember that ranks? Uh, you'd have to remind me which one that was because that was let's take it back old school Cinema wins we've covered him now Oh 17 17 and 18 and then Everything wrong with a 19 And then 83 60 no not 60. Oh my god. There's so much e-fap in just e-fap in every way Uh I think his rise of skywalker video is worse because I'm like, I think there's more surface level things to praise in the last jedi I think there's more you can just note on it like a surface level aesthetic choice and just like a this is cool It's like it's a little more Like it seems more so like he just doesn't know what he's doing anymore. He's just like, I don't know I like it shut up. You know, it's like, okay And this one man, that's what that's stupid. This was the beginning of his video shield We're in the Knights of Rand Luke's former students. So why don't they have the force? I don't know. I thought they were his charmer students. That's what I thought I don't know anything about them though Like the idea that we can be like they should or shouldn't have the force like based on We know that they were around Uh in that vision that ray had but we don't even know that they were the ones that Worked with kylo to kill students. We don't even know that we're just guessing Obviously without using anything but the movies They're lame. They needed help and they were abandoned Realized there were a couple of ISD in that rebel fleet Hmm, I just realized they could have I think we talked to us for but they could have made them the gods surrounding snoke In the TLJ throne room and they could have just had them get killed there And like their their addition to TROS is like non-existent almost Or whatever they could put them on promotional material and it's like guys we're getting the fucking Knights of Rand Too excited Are those ships the new republic that just gave up in TLJ or those are a myriad of militia PMCs and planetary defense forces No idea I think they're a militia. I think that that's what the film implies I just finished with a bunch of random people from random planets. It seems Who knows Now a fun fact most people don't know what a y-wing is. Oh my goodness He knows cinema wins did He knew what y-wings were My god, which which efeb was that was when we covered it was just right, right? Yeah, I think that was like 49 or something like that 47 so once we get to 90 Oh Once we get to 94 we'll have double the episode since that one which feels really weird because I didn't feel that long ago That was nine months ago That's what they said. I was like, yeah, it was like august or something like that last year I'm travers fast Yeah Wait, why didn't one just ram the bridge that took out the superstar destroyer and return RTJ I guess that is return of the Jedi Well, so this is another weird thing, right? So you have to shoot the gun and then it blows up the whole star destroyer. It's like, okay, neat None of the star destroyers have shields. Okay, neat. We have to destroy the tower on one of the star destroyers Uh-huh Knowing all of that what it's the easiest way to destroy that tower. You're like, okay destroy the gun on that star destroyer What if it doesn't have a gun? Well, just shoot the tower Why not just shoot it with a normal ship? It's like, no, we need to send horses People on horses with explosives. They're like, oh I mean if that's what you gotta do Why do all the subjectivist fanatics act like they're the good guys isn't abandoning reason and acting only on emotion A key trait of the dark side Oh The dark side because the Jedi are all about hope. That's yeah, that's we have hope for a better world We're movies aren't as shit as they are right now One day on fact, I think that's a good One good thing from the rise of Skywalker is the moment with Luke saying what are you doing? That's a great reaction clip Oh the one he's like, what are you doing? Because yeah, you could use that for a couple things Sam Jackson voice say sound design again. I dare you a double day He says it like five times. Yeah, like I said all the repeating Um in Final Fantasy 7 remake the spell is thundergar Not bolt three ding against cinema wins. Oof If assuming he was referencing that the force is not simply I saw it happen. Therefore I can do it now Yeah, that's right. I think they should make it more meaningful than that A little bit more complicated than oh, I can do it now. Ha ha I watched another youtube tutorial that I could do by trick All right What romantic tension jesus christ my head they did touch fingers They did touch people if that's not romance if that's not romance you tell me what is Uh high rags Hello ding high mohler. Hello ding. Hello guests Wow only Evan answered what the hell Wow only Evan and hack for me answered. What the hell I was monitoring that super chat when I was posted. So They weren't saying hi to me. I'm just saying Yeah, it's the spirit of the super chat come on It's guests. All right. I said hello I also it says hello guests dot dot dot I guess dot dot dot Maaz is a kleptomaniac. That's why she had luke's lightsaber and han's medal She's just stealing like pieces of starboard Ironically chewy died in the eu and now he's the only one left alive Uh, that's luke's medal han stole it and sold it for drinking money Wait, that's isn't that canon I remember us reading about that I could have sworn that's actually canon like um Didn't did chat help me out Is that actual the thing that happened in one of the weird novelizations? But like han sold his medal or he sold luke's medal or some shit I'm gonna oh no that wasn't the extended. That's not the eu that's something isn't that something that disney did Yeah, that's what i'm asking is like is that something from a disney canon? I I remember I just sworn it's on an e-fab where we get told about it and we were like what the fuck So this was han's Well, uh, the super chat says han sold luke's medal for drinking money He sold luke for drinking money Let's see This is something about it As it turns out luke's medal from the battle of yavin was sold by han solo to buy booze Solo gave it to maz canada to pay for a drink Canada even called solo a bastard for doing so So this is apparently canon here i'll put a link right there for you Wow, this is actually This is actually On these characters anymore. Yeah, why do this? Why? Because so I guess this is from something called star wars force collector, which is a book I like how I've repressed his memory follows a teenager who might be in touch with the force and he does His journey brings him to the castle of maz canada Which is where he finds some of her goods that she has collected over the years including luke sky walkers medal from a new hope Oh Wow all right cheese Shit, I like a james mull said we'll have him to han's medal. It's like sure. He sold that already Yeah, he would have sold his own but he already did that last week. He's just boozing it up Did he steal luke's medal to sell it? I did probably whatever whatever the worst-case scenario is just go with that Whatever makes han solo more of an asshole just go with that man Christ On that depressing note, I'm gonna have to see you guys later. Unfortunately. It's only a short visit this time No problemo sir. Thanks for popping on No worries guys, but hey, hey, we'll we'll chat again. We will chat again. Of course Goodbye All right. See you later. Bye. Bye. See you terrible Mola you gay Did you say something so so right mola's icon is not on the far right this stream is now objectively bad I'd like a refund on every super chat. I've ever sent now Am I usually on the far right? I can't remember It isn't that the update on discord. I think it might have centralized the person who's call it is versus like the uh Every every other time when you're in the call, it's right Oh I don't know though rags wags Staggers, I don't know what this is. What happened to exclusively games. Did you guys get caught pooping with the door open? No, no, no, um, we're we were gonna get that started back up again Or at least my section was but then this whole thing got started But um, I'll uh, I'll see when that's supposed to start up again because that is sort of the plan She's my thieves That is a good reference Chewie's gonna give his bowcaster a bj It doesn't even say blowcaster. I feel like it should but it says bowcaster a bj after one night of heavily drinking Realizing it's the only way he's gonna see his friends again. Oh I understand now. I thought you were making a big meme, but then it was a sad meme Um, I wouldn't put it past disney, you know, they They gotta make some kind of the chewie will fuck up somehow. I don't think you'd go that far though. Disney don't like suicide Uh, how dare you stand where he stood? Yeah, that basically sums up. Yeah sequel trilogy The deleted end credit scene is the ghost of general grievous with a shovel digging up the lightsabers saying these will make a fine addition to my collection I Mean I'd watch that I'd watch general grievous take the luke the skywalker lightsabers and just fucking go on an adventure I wouldn't care that he's dead whatever Um 55 15 yellow lightsabers are used by sentinels Jedi who's focus on real world skills like hacking repair or demolitions over combat and force skills Since they are used as black ops or recruiters for the order if ray wasn't a mary sue her blade would have made sense Well, I mean, I'm guessing is that like you stuff? Or is that I don't even know at this point? Yeah I'm pretty pretty neat um but of course May because I'm guessing they're running with the fact that she is um good with I ideally repairing hacking uh mechanic stuff possibly demolition to a degree maybe But uh, she's also happens to be good at everything Is that Yeah, I love how that's never used in any of the films. It's so funny I for that suggested like to get out of the chair She should have like had like a MacGyver solution or something like that like her Being handy or being a scavenger like that's never something she uses she uses other abilities. So it's just like oh Great job guys. No pay off for that The uh the end of the sequel trilogy effectively means they're back to square one But all their heroes and leaders are dead very inspiring Well, there's the thing man, like they do their little hug at the end of rise of skywalker and it's just like Uh-huh. I don't really feel anything But at the end of the sixth film, you're like, oh man, they did it. What legends? Apparently it was kotor stuff with the yellow lightsaber Uh at the end when ray pilfer's the crystal. She is evil She killed palps like he wanted and then stole the hero's legacy to twist it like the sabers That's that's the interpretation that would make me want to watch an episode 10 Just to see what they do with evil ray Ray is communist. She steals everything from everybody like it's her right Wait, but that's not even communism. She's taking everything for herself She's like it all belongs to me every single icon every she would go and hunt down any medals that hard had sold for drinking, buddy They would be hers Um, if everything great about star wars episode nine the rise of skywalker part one Uh, you only i'm sorry. This is a quote if that you watch only pain you will find. Oh, it's like a yoda Uh cinema sins had an easy job and he immediately fucks it up. Ra, get the roof They brought an awful amazing start, of course Uh, hey mola don't know if somebody asked already. I wondered if you'd seen dang Dangit jim dangit jim's response to your ds2 pvp section seemed quite good and fair Someone linked it in the discord and I said they're like If there was a part of my videos that I would have picked for a week in the ds2 series It would be the pvp stuff and the reason why is because I was only intending to respond to h-bomber guy's points and then I started gathering References and evidence for the counters and as I was gathering it started picking up pieces for loads of different things I couldn't use so like Hitboxes how could I put that in the response to h-bomber guy even though? I think it's like one of the biggest issues in ds2 and so I was like, you know what? I'll just Try and work them in and if I can't I'll try and put them in their own sort of thing and uh pvp I didn't explore anywhere near as much as I should have But all of what I'd experienced it was just not good so I just threw it in and um, it wasn't particularly well formed from what I remember because a lot of portions are like More robust versus others because it was only the amount of references I had to put in versus a goal to explore everything um So there's probably a lot that he's uh Or she is able to go through um and flesh out as to how good the pvp in ds2 is I'm not a good person to ask how good it is fully because I didn't explore it enough so Yeah, hopefully it is uh is good stuff and it can set the record straight on that but ds2 still sucks I uh I I I think that I made some fair arguments in those videos that You know notwithstanding the pvp. I think I did concede though the pvp is better than um ds1s But I don't know that that's impressive because ds1s was kind of a mess Um, the other problem is I've been it's been so long since I've um played dark souls any of them now that I uh Like I'd have to play through them again to be able to Concede or deny claims in good faith. Like otherwise. I'd just be like, uh, maybe yeah, that could be it I can't remember. Is that the thing with films is if someone's like yo, uh, I don't know Suicide squad is actually amazing. I can go rewatch it and then be like lol no While with a game like dark souls or dark souls 2 I need to do multiple playthroughs and they're not quick games Um, but yeah, I I think there's quite a few responses to my ds2 videos at this point So hopefully I moved the discussion somewhere It was never going to be definitive. I don't think it was mainly just a response but Good stuff either way, uh fuck mary kill ray captain marvel batwoman keep jay Okay Feel like we're gonna kill batwoman mary ray Yeah, I should be handy to have a round because you know I'd be so many problem that you have I'd be concerned the batwoman would kill me or would accidentally kill me So I'd rather or she would Or she would kill in general or she would stop her Just being violent psychopath like, you know Um Yeah, I think that's yeah, that's These are the tough choices you have to make Yeah kill batwoman and mary ray which leaves i'm not gonna marry captain marvel. Holy fuck And I don't want to marry batwoman. So yeah, I feel like it's just process of elimination standard sort of thing um This one's a follow-up. It just says it just says daisy ridley brie larson ruby rose hug j I guess that's to correlate with this question. Okay. They said ghouls. I knew I wasn't crazy. Yeah, but I don't know What does ghouls mean? You know Cool or sense. Yeah, cool made sense to me. So it's like, okay. No good. Let me let me let me look it up ghoul Okay ghoul an evil spirit or phantom Okay, never mind. There's more a person. Oh, here's one a person morbidly interested in death or disaster Oh Yeah, a little more reasonable. I guess so the knights of renna morbidly interested in death Yeah, or a spirit that is supposed to rob graves and feed on dead bodies um Sure, maybe yeah, all right That'll probably be in the books. Yeah, it'll be in the yeah the novelization will go into the ghoul lore Hi rags Hello, which has the better songs slash soundtrack guardians volume one or two I like a lot. They're both yeah, they're both similar, but they're both good So it's it's hard for me to remember kind of it's hard for me to distinguish the two I really like songs from both of them I think I like one better I think I think the soundtrack is just just on a subjective level I like the songs in there and there's some really good musical score like black tears I think that's honestly one of the best songs produced for marvel movie. That's that's a fantastic song Oh Also, have you heard meredith quills complete awesome mix created by james gun on spotify look forward to Meredith quills complete awesome mix So i'm guessing that's all the songs that would ever be in a guardians movie if it's made by james gun That's cool. Um and look forward to part three of tfa good stuff. It's on the way Can we all agree the one good thing from disney star wolves is the Darth Vader whole way scene in rogue one? I mean, I like it I think it's neat And it makes complete sense the Darth Vader would cut down Disgusting rebel scum I'm not hearing any disagreements on that so I must be right. Yeah. No, I'm total agreement C-3PO reminded me of my nanny as a kid loved him Okay I think that's fair. That's a fair reason Not gonna lie. I liked his og ghost recon and rainbow six joke Yeah, that's fine. I just think it sort of flew over my head because I haven't played them Or at least played them to know the joke Um according to clone wars r2's memory was never wiped Yeah, I think that's what the revenge of the system applies They say like how the protocol is mine. Why but r2's like he's beeping away like yay. I don't need it very smart Uh r2d2 is the last character that remembers all nine movies Yep, my poor guy is carrying around a lot of stress He's gonna carry that way um It's pronounced hover Wait, did someone say didn't someone not say hover? Hover I say hover Hover tomato tomato even though it's tomato Hovercraft hovercraft Uh, yeah, they said you're savage. I'm I'm sure who that's directed at entirely, but yes, we're all savages If rey was tomb raider, she wouldn't be flat. Oh Scaving criticism Oof Uh, why didn't rey bury the sabers on end all with the heroes succeeded instead of the place where shimmy tortured was tortured to death She and anakin lived as slaves. Oh and and buri would uh Buru sorry not well they spelled it with a Y Uh, were charred and luke was hated and luke hated that play. Yeah. Well, it's where it began technically not really For the audience. Yes with yeah, that's why that's why right there Uh, tatooine is a curse to the skywalkers So true My theory is rey is so powerful because both her parents were palpatines Do she gets the double the midichlorians of creamy sheep considering how broken law is now watch disney make that a thing Yeah, I mean, you know if alpi has sex with himself, that's double the midichlorians, right? Yeah, he he he Gives half his medichlorians and then he gives his I got nothing the dark side pathway many abilities unnatural They had a feeling How many planets are uninhabitable versus uh inhabitable perhaps we shouldn't be blowing up planets willy nilly Yeah, I agree with that. Uh blowing up planets is not really something you should be doing If you want to send a message by destroying one to the whole galaxy make sense to me if you want to destroy five Get rid of the republic like oh In is so competent inside of the ot he literally says that that the regional governor's already have control And he said fear will keep the other systems in line That was the point of the death star was just to keep everyone in line They were like, oh, they got a they can blow us up if they want to let's just let them have their way Um, howdy hack fraud great to finally see you on here Howdy, howdy Iragu and Moolanoid Hello Hello Uh, howdy drinkman currently chugging rum in a driftwood fort on the beach. Have a great strumtism y'all Why thank you Hey moeller you being serious also. Oh, I read that one out. Hey, that's means we're like I don't know where in the timeline we're at, but we're getting there Uh, is the 16 hours gone by thing supposed to be a dig at efap Oh, I mean, I don't think so. No, but it's funny how you can interpret that that way Do past 60 hours yet? It's like no, we always stop when we get to that kind of limit Um, I think Jedi skip is a running joke with him. Oh, okay Jedi skip Uh, hi drinker loved your tros reviews keep drinking I'm sure he would appreciate that Get the roof now. Oh my god to moeller rags and guests Have you watched kingdom korean kingdom's medieval period zombie drama on netflix? I'd recommend if you haven't for a pre new pre modern take on the genre No, um sounds interesting though. Yeah, yeah, you can't go wrong with the period zombie dramas as you know No, I've not I've not heard of or seen of it, but I have now Uh, why is it that kylo and leia get to be force ghosts? Isn't that something that kwaigon yoda and obi one had to specifically train for like not every jedi who dies gets to be a Force ghost for fuck's sake also. Hi ragus Hello Is the fact that they disappear like Me does that mean that they're a force ghost now? Or is it just the death of a force user even though that doesn't happen for loads of jedi in the prequels? Yeah, that doesn't happen for basically all of them. Oh, yeah, I don't know actually Like there was still a body for anakin when he died, but he became a force ghost anyway That's I don't think that's the rule. Oh, no, he disappeared once that scene cut no way He burned an actor Like There's no way out he didn't become a force ghost. Yeah, I don't know what the rules are disappearing Uh Artaroof cinema wins Okay, uh sub everyone. Hope you're having a fun time in this corona virus break If y'all want to have some fun Maybe y'all could react in efat mini to all the how it should have ended for the star wars trilogy I mean Don't typically do that because like that is probably going to be stuff. We just Trying to be fun. We'd be like yay lol. Yay stuff Nothing bad could ever come of this First force power on screen obi-wan does a force shout Oh, you're talking about the weird noises he makes to scare the um The dudes Is it Yeah, exactly I don't think that was he used a force for that. I think I thought that was just a noise He knew I believe it's of an animal like they're afraid of or something like that And it's like, oh my god for an old man who makes some weird noises I don't know if I call that full shout though. That seems weird Like a regular shot would do Yeah This was missing from my subscriptions also high rags Hello Yeah, sorry about that, but uh, this is a covert stream now. You only get to it if you knew about it already Thanks, youtube Um at this point, why doesn't anyone use the force to make people explode with the snap of their fingers? Yeah, there's some stuff about uh, yes Why don't you just snap their neck? Why don't you just cut off a blood vessel to their heart? You know something like that Yeah, the the only thing they've got is like, oh you can't do that to other people who use the force because they would They just counter it by being force users question mark But uh, also that's pretty um pretty nasty He's gross the original plan was for jesus to just come and start the rapture from the start But well, we got the whole death thing. So, okay All right, the plan was to come all along The yandere sim code got leaked look it up if you want to have an aneurysm Uh, i'm all right The yandere simulator i'm guessing that's what sim is for and then that's a game and then the code for it got leaked Oh, okay. Oh, all right. I got you. Um, yay e-faps on just finished alcatisms with friends only tuned in now One old news, but though i love j. I was so glad to find some online critics who didn't like arrival Uh, two exes is the best three Labas rugs or labas rags Labas Uh in gadelbal david attenborough voice, uh Do not attack the chat they are my n-word long-going children 13% cause 50% of crime high rags That's fucked up. He would never say that. That's so mean I would say hello you would That's very true. Uh, jj after getting the director reigns for episode nine. Look how they slaughtered my story Yeah It's hard to feel bad for a little bit Yeah Groundwork, that's the thing That's why i can sound like yeah Yeah Um Wasn't the original line obi-wan killed your father before they changed it Oh, so that was the cover that was the line to uh, misdirect people apparently It was the so the people who um Were like more involved with it the only people who did know was the actor for well the guy inside the suit for darth vader Uh James ill jones obviously luke and then george luke or something was it was that this actually i don't think uh No, it would have been actor did it greater. Yeah, because when they filmed it Um, I think he actually did say obi-wan killed your father because everything plays out the same right, um And he was actually kind of upset when he finally found out in the theater. I think Probably well, yeah, they kept that super fucking secret. So yeah, all it would have known would be luke George and uh, james ill jones Which uh, yeah They do all this they all point out some random behind the scenes ot factors if it validates their whole argument Leia could have been planned to be chubaca's uncle. What made it on screen worked the st didn't I agree I hate when they appeal to what was planned at one point which proves that mistakes are gonna happen anyways It's like no fuck off We need to call this from now on the chubaca's uncle defense Leia man, look at this guy we're covering he pulling and pulling a chubaca's uncle on us People outside of me felt me like what the fuck does that mean you're like you wouldn't get it You wouldn't you fucking get it You weren't there when chubaca's uncle was born I have a baby turtle efab gets to name it Hmm. I have a baby turtle, but we get to name it Yeah, I mean, I feel like we should go with like the dawn as a turtle or What's a good turtle name? Shelly Shelly Um What hmm Are we are we against tonal? I thought that would be a funny turtle name Tonal the turtle That's not a bad name at all I like tonal the turtle there you go efab has officially named its first turtle Well, you know you could he is a turtle you could call him slonald Yeah, that that just seems to be a natural nickname as well Call him call call the turtle slonald Slonal the turtle or slonal the tunnel. Yeah, they're slonald You have to explain everybody to explain to people Everybody in your uh Who comes over to check out your turtle we're gonna ask what's your turtle's name and you'll say slonald And you're gonna have to explain to them so much I pity you but congratulations Uh ray getting everything for no work you guys forget that these movies were written by people that probably believe communism is a good idea These well, it's written by people who are hyper rich I think the better comparison would be people who got a lot of shit that they didn't necessarily deserve They would have gotten millions of dollars for their scripts that are garbage. It's like well She is just like ray Uh jedi and the prequels don't even have kids. How can their powers have anything to do with lineages? I hate this dumb straw man with a passion of the sun Uh, I was about to say they they're they're forbidden of marrying. Yeah Interesting how their blood lines problem. Yeah It's a well-kept secret secret. It's an understood sort of thing you go out Reduce one illegitimate child and then you're good Keeps his force numbers, you know Kylo I forgive you me Yes, uh, how are y'all like knives out p.s. High drinker Still haven't watched yet. We've got to set that shit up Not yet There's there's a lot of plot flaws with like how how the mechanics of the mystery work Especially after reveal in the second act, but I think it's actually pretty solid Not too bad New Star Wars deep thinking just hurts Um sing yub nub, but instead of yub nub it's come yum Come yum Come yum So what sing seeing what? Well, you get it. I think that is yub nub that song They just want you to replace yub nub every time with come yub Come yum I don't know the other lyrics so Come yum Oh, is that that's the song from the the That's the star wars rap song I don't know about that Isn't it just the song that plays uh It's the ewok song at the end of return of the jedi before they changed it. Yeah To be clear the star was yub nub means hooray in ewok. Oh Uh to be clear the star wars ot and st are both flawed and what makes one worse than the other is the magnitude and frequency of said flaws Uh, yeah, I agree with that I concur Hey boys, will you guys ever cover tony goldmarks aka some jerk with the camera's video on top 12 hottest takes on the last jedi It's honestly pure cringe also clayton fioriti's jp videos are trash Those may all be covered in ze future Never quite know How do you all feel about disney saying a new pirates movie is coming but jack sparrow is too manly to keep Jack sparrow is too manly to keep disney can go fuck themselves. I didn't read that Is that what they said? I don't know that's what the super chat says If that's what disney says then Fuck Same here. I'm just not a fan of any of the dress. Uh, I mean sorry parts of the caribbean sequels man The last one was terrible and most of the sequels aren't even that good But remaking it as they're like, uh it's kind of bad Yeah, clearly the problem is that we didn't have we clearly the problem with these movies is that the protagonist was too masculine and piratey Well, we have a Yeah, it's unfortunate Going to the obsession of bloodlines They forget that obi-wan wasn't forced into you and does most padawans But gain prominence through hard work knowledge wisdom and dedication exact opposite of anakin I mean that's I Way prefer that world the idea that you work at it really hard and you can get to be pretty pretty good with it You know like not Well, do you have the right blood? And then what about a blood transfusion what happens then? Oh, yeah, if you can inject your medatorians into somebody else to give them the super force Yeah, they get super blood that gives them the force aids Yeah, oh I don't know. Yo, bro. Watch the clone wars. We are often requested as for such things I like to get around to it. There's a lot of tv I need to see Cinema sin slash wins be like and then they've got a picture of a brain and then a disabled sign Oh Pretty clear pretty clear with the messages there. I follow 3d clone wars is just out there again. Don't waste your tisms on it Especially since august 20th is drawing near and we need good star wars content What's happening august 20th? I have no idea august 20th Is that mandolin season 2? august 20th Um Oh, that is the um, that is the uh sad sad bhavana diwas Uh, every every year on the 20th of august commemorates the birth anniversary of erstwhile prime minister of india tree rajiv ghandi okay I'm guessing that's probably not what they're referring to. Maybe it is. Oh, andrew garfield was born on august 20th Oh nice. Wait, are they referencing fucking tfa part 3? It's not august 20th. It's august 2020 That's that's what rag said not august 20th. Oh, that's right demi lavato was born on uh, august 20th So it was a person named shovel and i'm gonna look up who that is I guess shovel is a Minecraft youtuber or something Just got back from work and saw you guys were still streaming. So I figured I'd donate a bit. Love the long streams well Another one on its way. How far are we with this one? nine and a half hours Good lord Greetings mold's brie and raggleton, which would be more interested in seeing jj's episode eight or rj's episode nine Honestly, jj's episode eight. I would have hoped they would make more sense Yeah, and it would ruin less things. I think I don't I don't really want to see rj's episode nine to be honest with you I'm I've had enough. I just be like, oh, here we go again. You know, fuck up a bunch of other shit They should have given him an anthology film like with how with how different he wanted to go in a new direction Like you should have just been given his own independent film. I think it would have done relatively okay um Luke wasn't just training by training by a jedi master. He was trained by a grand master or the grand master I think that I think that's fear Cinema wins is confused. It made a trash argument in its confusion. Now. That's a pokeman reference Ha ha This is peak e-fap a video that defies imagination leaves our hosts in knots as well as those of us in chat shaking our heads in disbelief That's peak e-fap. Everyone's busy Yes, we all want to die I think the idea here is that force heal could lead the undisciplined mind to go all frankenstein I have the power to create life. I am god Think of just healing people. Oh, I was gonna say, why do we have to keep doing this? It's you could help people really good Like boo boo's Yeah, someone falls over and scratches their knee. You can be like, it's okay bloop Uh, is this supposed to be batman's password? Oh, I get it Batman Can force ghost luke kiss force ghost lair? Yeah, why not? Yeah, there's no reason why not. I think force ghost deserve the right to kiss like any humans do Uh, paul haldi paul haldia died. That was a tense scene He didn't die. He was at the end of fraternity king. He was right there. Yeah, he's so hard on a proto scum Yeah The shame legolas died at helm's eve though. Mm-hmm God hell haldia made it so sad. This video isn't even funny. It's depressing. Oh Uh, what do jedi and liches have in common? They both have powerful undead forms now There you go. Yeah, nice connection. Praise joko. Uh, this is somehow worse than bob. At least he tries You put in less effort than bob. Good job. Could you do this? You did it Uh, when stricken with cognitive dissonance people have to fix their contradiction or discredit what made it known to them sequel defenders do the latter Um, discredit what made it known to them. I mean they would also So like everything is neutral and then suddenly sequels have a bunch of nonsense in them And it's like wait wait people are pretending for a second that every other film makes sense That's the key. I just have to prove that everything else doesn't make sense And you're sitting there like no No, no, no Palpatine was one of the orphans who got burned as a child when the orphanage that the dawn worked at burned down due to captain marvel Breaking his hand. It's all connected Oh my god To disney marvel star wars cinematic universe. You knew it Uh, she was old they called him a boy What a fagiate that's an interesting spelling Uh marking the start of 86 super chat isms thumbs up. That's not the start You lie Uh, fuck. I thought you were going to read old super chats first. Well, I figured it made more sense because these were all Uh, everyday ones Yeah, once they're late, they're late, but we can keep the recent ones recent for today Mm-hmm. Molo. What do the other ones what country are you from past the love to dishonored wolf? Wales Little country and say the Britain it is Oh Oh You think more novelists should try script writing they seem to understand plotting and whatnot Oh, whatever they want to do really if they don't want to do a script screenplay then They're gonna want to do novels. You know how it goes Uh shad time travel with me to watch the battle of ashen core. I think it would be great to see kind of not sure about watching death part though um well That's gone now Isn't that funny how like That's how much time gets traveled that people who pop in for a few hour don't even get to Yeah, anyway, have you considered bringing laughing man on from cheshire cat studios? He's a fun personality and would be a good fit No idea who that is But uh, sure Hey muller if you played brutal legend great game would definitely recommend for any fan of heavy metal. Yes and um It was quite interesting to see jack black played on his um gaming channel as well, but Yeah fun funtism game really weird how it evolved into like a weird sort of rts When it was I thought was like a third person fighter. It's this is a lot of genres mixing together in that one as well as um Some cool music tisms Is this supposed to be my 100 pound bow? I'm not confused Yeah, I'm not sure on that one 100 maybe they're talking about the blow caster. Oh, maybe Uh, what's your favorite movie that is considered bad? Hmm Um Like what do you mean by considered bad this I mean like like is bad? Oh people consider it bad. Yeah And that we enjoy it or ways you just need to know what exactly they're referring to Interstellar Like I know I know it's bad, but like some of the emotions tisms get me um But to say I watched uh inception with a friend who who uh presented to me a lot of arguments as to why the film isn't very well written But I still love that movie So I'd probably say like I after watching that with him. I was just like yeah this movie isn't as well written as I remember it But I still really like it so How about it? Yeah, I'm uh I'm rotten tomatoes Hook has like a rating of like 32 or something and I love that film Yeah, I mean The usual answer I have for this sort of question if it's the one I understand it to be is probably batman and robin a film is funny dumb and I know that loads people despise it Like really hate it. They're just like, yeah I don't I don't How about um sucker punch I haven't seen that in so long. I don't even know if I like it But I did see it when it came out and I remember not having strong feelings so Whatever that means um How about Oh, I don't know Were any of the Transformers movies good The first one was okay, right? That's what a lot of people say Yeah, like the first one to a degree I did the first one I did all of them I mean, but the first one's like the best one, right? That's what most people say, right, right? Yeah That's it's not saying much though How about independence day? I enjoy that to me. I think it's really dumb. It's really dumb, but I think it's a lot of fun Yeah, I think I think most people agree on that one. Um, so I need to watch it again to remind myself of what the the dumbisms are in that one Equals trash man. If you did you guys ever see Independence Day resurgence? I did. Yeah, I did I hate that movie. It's it just All fun like that's the thing people say Independence Day is fun But it's really stupid just like Independence Day resurgence. It's just dull and lifeless It's like all the characters like what they did do it dude. This is not the spirit of independence so, um Yeah, that movie was Ben movie was I don't remember what I thought of it I think I like watched it while playing a game and wasn't paying enough attention Oh lucky you um uh Someone said Jumanji The first one of the sequels the robin williams one I didn't see it yet. Is it alright or I only saw it as a kid. I liked it as a kid I didn't know people thought jumanji was bad I didn't I didn't think they had All right, then That's why someone just mentioned it space jam. That's a good space jam. Oh, sorry Well, uh, okay. Well wait space is space jam bad. I can't remember is it is it so bad? It's good. Or is it just really fun? It's it's interesting Yeah, I haven't seen that shit in so long It's so weird. I still watch it because I like it but Same here. It's very strange Someone said Oh, it doesn't matter. Yeah, let's just keep going Uh Mueller have you seen dang dang at gyms ds2 response to you? I I've not seen it, but uh, like I said I would go with whatever his take on the pvp is rather than mine. Oh mine was a little half baked when I Did a thing on it because I was more focused on the other elements of ds2 um My assumption is hydra used the mind stone to power the tech that created scarlet witch and quicksilver Like they use the space stone to power the weapons during world war two Uh, I mean This is a little flimsy. They they use the mind stone to create superhero technology. It's like, okay It's gonna create technology Yeah, I don't know the process that they did it with like it Well, I don't know if they just had us had people touch the mind stone They go blah blah blah and then they get a power or they created a thing that managed to do it I don't know Uh, you guys seem feloni talk about the pt and mando documentary I have not No, I haven't no I would use the time stone for at most and as a way to give me small advantages Mostly a name thing specifically avoiding attention, uh, or almost any altruism specifically Anything more than seems foolish That was from me hi cheek sent me hi me hi Uh rank from soft games from best to worst Oh boy, I think I could only do favorite to least favorite because I wouldn't want to try and say anything on Definitive qualitisms now and I haven't played securo. So favorites ds one then Probably ds three, but It could really bump into blood born because I really like both of those And then underneath all of it is ds two I didn't get to play dark souls demon souls fully. So I don't know that I have a good, uh Perspective on that Anyone else played them all I have only vaguely played it Very briefly played dark souls three played securo for like four and a half hours or so Fine I've not played them. Um, but I'm very illiterate when it comes to video games. So I have no strong feelings on them. I don't know enough about them. Not the person to ask No Twitch is going downhill quite rapidly. It would seem a shame load shotgun. Oh my god Uh, well metal's on there. So he'll be our canary in the cold mine. He'll let us know if twitch is destroyed ahead of time Rag should people with a flupy dangus wear pants? Um No one should wear pants. Fuck it. No one never Maybe for safety reasons occupational hazards or whatnot, but no man. Just I just go to uh this we just need a Just a bottomless society Mola, this is a controversial opinion I hold but I believe overrated is a flat out useless argument for Criticizing something. I absolutely hate it when it's used in media discussion thoughts So If ever I describe something as overrated I probably am trying to appeal to the idea that For the most part most people seem to think of it as one thing when I think it's really not that thing Um, which that's not a shock Uh, but how useful that is in terms of analysis, it's usually just as an opener, right? Like I think this thing has more flaws than most people seem to think it does and you're like, ooh continue Yeah, like it doesn't relate to the content relates to the popular perception of it essentially It's just an an opener. If someone was like, that's useless. I'd be like, oh, I mean In isolation, I guess yeah, but I don't know that it's supposed to be more useful than what it what it does Which is just starts the conversation off Instead of immediately in like this thing's bad It's like you want to acknowledge the fact that you know what you're saying is controversial in a way Yeah, I'd be like siding the rotten tomato score like on on a certain movie. It's like you open that it's like It's not necessarily useless. It's something that's just interesting informations Me and my friend want to make a youtube channel. Do you have any tips on making youtube videos about pop culture discussion and video essays? Uh, well make sure you make content that you're interested in and that you're not going to burn yourself out talking about stuff that you don't really care that much about Try and say that if you can find something unique to do while also being something that you're passionate about Yeah, give people a reason to listen to you How about interesting takes the opinions the idea of taking someone's sort of style in one genre And maybe using it for another or something like that. Yeah, maybe Combine some inspirations. Who knows all kinds of options Make sure you guys have good chemistry though Yeah, don't be kind of people who fucking hate each other because that just doesn't work out well Hatred is bad. It leads to anger leads to Suffering leads to buffering. You don't want to buffer No buffer Also faster and more intense That too I said written earlier because of censorship. Do they really sense a drinker drinker? Wow, that's so stupid. That's messed up Um, I summon the roof dragon of rah. It's crusade time. Oh my Uh, the only thing worse than rebel scum is halloween lovers christmas forever Christmas forever. Are you christmas zellie? So so rude to us halloween lovers Hello mohler and co. Uh, hello Do natural kinds exist? Do what natural kinds Natural kinds k i n e s. Yeah Do natural kinds exist What does that mean people or kinds of places any definitions because i'm not sure what you mean Does I need a mound. Is this uh, is this when is this when shad asked to define racism? I don't know But uh, yeah, that's what it says and I uh, i'm not 100% sure of It was from mista cia. So you can tell the cia are very interested in Ifaps opinion on this It's in caps. So maybe Or it's capitalized let's say natural Natural kinds um Is a label to which scholars have assigned incompatible meanings Some treated as a classification identifying some structure of truth and reality that exists whether or not humans recognize it Others treated as a human classification of knowing that works instrumentally So it says A natural kind has a real existence independent of human cognition and is not simply an arbitrary category Um A natural kind is determined by the presence of a presumed underlying common nature Which may be unknown to us Sounds I mean, I have to look into it Uh, because this is my first time hearing the phrase natural kinds Um You got me. Yeah, I'd have to I'd have to look more into it. I've got a tab pulled up for it So I might have to get back to you later on that Um EFAP is gonna become fight club at this point with youtube not notifying Yeah, I mean all the all the secret members meeting up In our little in our dinky little stream just seeing if you can hold on Uh Here's five dollars for youtube not notifying me nine hours and nineteen minutes ago. Anyway guys How do you feel about eFAP movies for terminator flicks also high rags? Hello, so like all of the sequels or just all of them in general when we talk about them, I guess Could do could be doing genesis Um, once the eFAP movies are like caught up with and the batwoman editor is like fully running Which I've heard the new the next episode of that is soon to be completed editing wise. Um Yeah, we'll try and get some more eFAP movies running just just more stuff Mortisms are on the way I swear Um, but terminator's a possibility. I suppose yes Uh to paraphrase a comment on cinema wins the rise of skywalker part two video Everything great about cats 2019. I dare you to find something great That's another movie we want to do free fat movies, but yeah, I mean those are the challenges for his channel I suppose when you come across them tism ones If you could choose the premise for the next star wars trilogy, what would it be The next one like the following the sequel trilogy Thousand years in the future at a different galaxy I was gonna say at this point. I just want complete freedom I want to get away from everything to do with the the nine films that have come out really Um Yes, I I just Except for many of the original films that I make it some sort of assist story. I think that could be interesting That would be interesting Honestly, I I don't really there's not anything I would want to pick this so many options I would have I would have so many different ideas and then I would just try and pick one That I think would be the funnest sort of thing Now I want to get away from the Jedi away from the Sith away from the republic away from all of that and just start over We're basically the only thing that really ties The universe together is similarity in technology levels and The fact that they know the force exists, but they have a completely different understanding of the force and And We could start do all kinds of stuff from there Uh, are we continuing the prequel arc next week? I can't wait to cover attack of the clone so that rag can finally come to terms with the objective perfection of the hail fire droid Oh, it just seems Um, I'm not actually a hundred percent sure of what is happening next week yet I will figure that out, but uh, could be prequel arc could be not. I'm not a hundred percent sure I think winds might be worse than sins christ Yeah, you might be correct Um, are there any old video game studios that you guys miss any obscure ones? Um obscure ones, um, I guess so ultra ultra who only made the game Um echo apparently they just closed Uh, so that's shame um, I think Uh I would say rare as it originally stood back in the day Good old rareware I'd say blizzard as it was like 20 years ago Oh, yeah, lucas arts. That's another one Yeah, about to say Oh, yeah Ask about lucas arts Good old lucas arts um You ever plan to have vita one again? He's gonna be releasing his uh revet All right rise of rise of the sky. It's it's tross not rots. Gosh Uh, good soon. I know you just I know you disagree out a lot, but he's a fun lad. Hi rags evan. Hello. Oh, wow. No. Hello for hack for a medium I see how it is um Jeez, yeah, he's We we couldn't always have him on there's no reason not to we're still cycling through lots of different guests But um, maybe 100 would be an easy way for him to jump on because we're probably gonna have quite a few Jumping in and out of that one Leia remembers mrs. Organa not Padme. She's in Revenge of the Sith I mean, you could definitely argue she's just remembering not Padme. That's that's totally fair. Um I think people are trying to point out that That's what the implication is and then that wouldn't be possible if we look at revenge of the Sith Um Mola, did you show rags the video sent via twitter? I don't know what video sent via twitter. I don't know Um You hide you keeping stuff from me. I mean, I don't know which which of the many what what video in particular I'm afraid. I don't know I do show rags lots of things Um, oh you talking about the the one where they're spinning around that was actually linked in our little chat Oh, yeah, I like that. Yeah, if that's what you mean, then yes, uh, it has been linked Never heard rags howl why not fix that with everyone joining in ideally with Mola howling in a welsh accent Yes It's an inside one now. Oh, that's why I don't that's why I don't how because I'm a I'm a good well-behaved inside dog There you go Uh Ben is like ashy from samurai jack both means to n Both means to an end was that supposed to be I don't know But all right, those are the ones for this stream though. Then none of the stream labs ones. I can actually read out because of the Uh problem. I can't sign in while streaming. It doesn't um, let me right now. I'm gonna try it again right now See what happens Uh Nope. Yeah, so it signs me into the wrong account and um, someone did tell me to make The the one I wanted to sign into my primary one. It already was my main account is and it still doesn't work So what I have to do is sign out on my youtube and be off of obs and then sign back in and then I can collect the uh The ones that I want to see I don't know why it does it this way. It's really annoying But um, I'll just try and make sure to read them out first and foremost uh So that's like a I've watched the batwoman e-fabs nearly 12 times now and still ain't bored. Hi rags Hello, I'm glad you like them. There will be more on the way. You can't wait to get to the new ones Yeah, we're actually recording some more soon. I believe Yay on the way So, uh, how much time do you reckon you have rags? Oh, I'm I'm pretty tired. I am pretty tired So in total we've got two minis and an e-fap episode of super chastity readout uh I think what we'll try and do is get to them in the next catch up in the following week Uh, we'll try and read out the full e-faps worth and then we should be mostly caught up So, uh, expect them then Um, we caught up to this streams one this stream. This is a this is a self contained e-fap stream Now it has all the e-fap super chats responded within it. I mean, you know, I'm surprised It didn't take us as long as I thought it would because of the um We didn't actually go as long on those videos as we If the ratio had stayed the same for the first video It's just we agreed with a lot of what cinema sins were saying so You never know with that sort of thing So that about wraps us up. I'll just uh The next one was one used to go back to the past other a health kit. Ow Mike tester. I'm not 100 following what you're saying. Yeah, I think so Well, because he he said ben is like ashy from samurai jack both means to in Yeah How does that connect to the second bit? One used to go back to the past samurai jack went back to the past. Yeah Other a health kit owl Let's see. I don't know. I just don't so that last half Can't can't decide for that one not exactly sure but I do I do Pick up what he's laying down in terms of the samurai jack and um Well Had some questions for shad dang uh stream labs. Sorry about that. Uh I've collected so many shad ones. We've even got the the time travel one that just came in from as well Sour lemons. They're all in a big notepad Theoretically, they will be gotten to someday once I sort of try to sort of wedge them in Do something somehow someday? Um Is it in time perhaps but I would caution Send questions in for me in rags Because we will be able to answer them sending them for anyone else You're risking them not being able to be answered for either a long time or ever and Wouldn't want that and if they're around if if they're around they'll probably take part in the question So you should but you should be all right just doing that Uh We will force them to answer these questions They will not have the opportunity to not make a choice Then was used as a health kit essentially Oh, I see Okay, so, uh, I think we should we should say thank you both Evan and hack fraud media for staying with us as long as you did Would you both like to uh talk a bit about your channels before we head out to tell people why they should subscribe arino and I would say, um Yes, I either can go first. It's not really a big deal. So Whoever's feeling a bit more aggressive about all of this whose channel's better. Hmm I don't I like just you know how cool for me to make really good videos. Um As for mine, I'm uh As it happens I my next video is going to be on cinnamon in some way shape or form I uh, I wrote up half a script for the first part of his video. Literally the day it was released I was I was so raging that I I just wrote up a script. I might redraft that and uh Do one on part two. Um, so that might be a response video in and of itself If not, then I have a script I'm working on as well for a video about um His channel as a whole I want to compare and contrast him to cinemasins and explain a lot of my issues with this channel So you can expect something like that relatively soon. I I really do need to get working on the script. I've been kind of lazy really So we can expect you to talk about how cinema wins isn't allowed to feel what he feels. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah I'm not gonna pretend to like things. He can if you like well, uh Yeah, what what have you got right now that you know that people would be interested to check out Uh, there's there's a video about why I think that objectivity in art exists There's uh, there's a what aboutism and character assassination video up I uh, I make topical videos essentially that like cover Subjects not necessarily films themselves. I've got a few of those but essentially like I like tearing down argumentation And using movies as the basis of that No, there you go. Check him out. Um I I've seen your character assassination one. It's uh, interesting. Shit. Uh, you tricked me in it Which I think was the plan we were like I'm gonna talk about a really strongly known example or whatever And I was like it's gonna be I'll be Luke. I think it was something like that, but then you go to um die hard and I was like, oh shit I I usually try to avoid that as of late like I've talked a lot about stars And I'm sure people like you talk about star wars so much. I'm like I I try to avoid talking about this Much as I can But yeah, I didn't I haven't even seen that particular die hard movie But when you're explaining it, I was just like, oh that sounds so awful Oh bad. That's probably one of my most hated sequels. I'm just like dude This this completely destroys the the character of john mclean and the movie itself is just it's it's a slog the watch It's fun at all But yeah, uh, check him out link in description and in the channel hack fraud media you're up next What is it that you do on your channel? Hmm? Um, I'm I'm just a hack fraud Um, I I'm basically your your bargain bin plinket a copy of plinket or a parody of plinket Uh, it was originally just a response to Uh, plinkets first Or the the force awakens video because I didn't feel like he went far enough with what he was saying so I thought well, I'll just Make a response to his and put in the things that I feel he should have done Um, didn't really expect it to actually gain any traction, but It's kind of exploded sort of yeah, I think a lot of people felt the same way you did it was like Just it's not like what he said about the prequels wasn't um Unwarded or anything. It was just like why are you talking about them for so long talking about tfa And then he went through the plot 10 minutes. It was like, no Oh So yeah, that was that and I've pretty much just continued it because people have kind of been expecting it and it's kind of turned into this thing where The character that I play is the grandson of plinket which is kind of oddly poetic and fitting to what has been kind of wedged into the The sequel plots and things and characters. So Yeah, it's it's very very odd But uh, mainly I start to talk about star wars. I have several reviews for the uh, disney Star Wars films and a bunch of other like Mimi kind of videos that lead up to the the next Uh reviews and whatnot So and I'm currently working on tross. Uh, so that's That's the next big project You got one for tfa one for rogue one two for tlj and then You're working on the tros ones Corrects. Yeah, so plenty of content to watch if you haven't checked it out already. It's uh, some good definitive breakdowns of You know the wonderful sequel trilogy, which I think you guys in chat you're used to to some degree I feel over these past two years almost you probably Uh would be up for checking that out. So yeah, again links in the description and in the chat and um Yeah, thank you guys for hanging out with us for so long. It's we're almost at 10 hours now. I think Oh boy. Oh, we passed 10 hours, right? Yep Just an extra two you got I just got home sad face I'm I'm so sorry I think if you you can actually roll back the stream to the full 10 hours and let it play Right now. So if you do that before we go offline, you'll be able to watch I think some of it. I don't know how youtube works. Also, um, just joined. What did I miss? Oh, you know 10 hours of fabric Yes, we've been fabric for 10 hours Like I said, uh, me and rags shall return in the following week that some some one of the days that lines up for us both being free We're gonna do e-fap. I think 50 fives Uh super chats. I think they're the ones we gotta do and we got two catch-up episodes to do as well So, um, you'll see us getting at that. We got loads of memes piling up Uh loads of meme videos. We might be doing a meme fap again soon. I'm not sure We'll have to see how it goes and um That's about it Uh, like I said streamlabs will I will get the streamlabs once as soon as the stream is over and collect them up and do them first as well So Yeah, anything anyone wants to say before we head out No, I think I've spoken enough Dr. Cover and all that Video say that much Oh, if I said e-fap 55, I meant 85. Sorry and uh, yeah, that's it lads. Have a good night. We'll catch you around See you later