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Also turn on your notifications and subscribe to this channel. We give away stuff all the time. You're gonna want to know when you post these podcasts. Also one more thing before we start this podcast. We are running a promotion on two individual programs, workout programs, and a bundle. A bundle is where we combine multiple programs together. The first program that's on sale is maps hit. That's high intensity interval training. The second one is maps split. This is an advanced bodybuilding workout. And then the bundle is the bikini bundle. All of them are 50% off. Huge, huge sale. Go check them out. Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and then use the code spring break. All right, enjoy the show. Dude, I was reading some articles about the future of tech. Okay. Over the weekend. There's a whole like segment of technology called sex tech. Yeah, so this is like technology for sex stuff. Yeah. And so scientists are, there's actually some scientists that are working on devices where you can implant an electrode near the spine. And then you have an orgasm button. So you could just push the button and just have an orgasm. And it's four people with like, you know, spinal injuries and stuff like that. But I'm sure other people are going to use that. That sounds messy. You know what I mean? Could you imagine having, does it keep working? Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, did you guys, do you remember when we went and we went and interviewed sex with Emily? Yeah. Did you guys ever, so I got the one, I think it was called the Wii Vibe. Oh, you guys picked the stupid toys. I got that too. Yeah, those were dumb toys. No, what do you mean? So the idea is that you- Bro, I know you guys got stupid toys. I got the, it's called the womanizer, which is a stupid name. Read the reviews on that. Your wives are, they poor ladies, they have no idea. You guys got the dumb toys. This guy's the toy master. The womanizer, it will, it makes, it just does crazy stuff. Well, what is it? So it's a, it's a small, it's like there's a little suction device on it. Okay. And it does this rapid fire suction with vibration. And so what a woman does is she puts it on her, her clitoris and it's just, just orgasm central is what ends up happening. Wow. So the Wii Vibe one that I had, she, I'm supposed to be like, control it remotely. Yeah. So the idea of it is really cool, but it never really was executed well. Didn't really pan out. Yeah, it sounds like- I knew it too when you guys were, when she's like, hey, pick whatever toy you want from the closet. She was selling it hard though. You guys picked those and was like, whatever. Well, she was selling it. I'll get this one over here. I'm like, I can do this by an app. Imagine an orgasm button though, like it's an electrode on your spine. First of all, this would be, I feel like, uh, my God, the practical jokes, right? Like, let's say when you guys had it, 100%, I would find a way to get your, your- To hack it all. Yeah. And while we're hanging out, I just be like, you got some big speech, you know, like you're performing. You're hanging out with your parents. Both sexes too? I gotta go to the bathroom. Yeah, I would work on, apparently, I guess. That's interesting. I know. In fact, this led me down a rabbit hole. There was this woman who had this disorder of some sort. Led you down multiple holes. No, this woman had this disorder where every time she sneezed, she orgasmed. There was like a cross fire. Oh, I've heard of this, yeah. And so every time she would sneeze, she would have an orgasm. And then there's people who have, I can't remember the name of the disorder, but they just all day, they can't control it. It's actually torture for these poor people. They're just tortured by it. Yeah, I saw that, it was on that show taboo. There was also the orgasmic birth, which I've never believed. Oh my God. That's gotta be a myth. That's gotta be worse things. That's, huh? There's gotta be worse things than orgasm all day. I mean, think about it, dude, you can't do anything. Right now, you're just, I know, but there's gotta be worse things than that, right? I mean, there's a lot worse than if you got stuck with a condition. I feel like that would be. I'm sure, yeah. But I'm sure it's exhausting and you probably feel weird. You're hanging out with whoever you're hanging out. It doesn't matter. You're orgasming. Yeah. You're talking to Doug and you orgasm. You hang out with Justin, orgasm. So confusing. No breaks. Go to your grandma's house, orgasm. No breaks. No, that's what this condition was, right? Yeah. There has to be somewhat of a break. No, only when you sleep. Oh, really? Yeah. It's like you wake up and it's orgasms all day. Just throughout the day. I don't believe that. That's all. It was on the show. It's like a muscle spasm. So it must be true. Uh-huh. I said, it's a real thing. That's your defense. It was on the show. No, there's a real condition. No, I'm with it. No, there's a name for it. There's an actual name for the condition. Maybe Doug can find out what the name of that condition is. It's just like one of those things where you think it's going to be awesome. And then like, if you're always in that state, it just makes it hell. Oh, yeah. It reminds me of like movies where people get like a wish, but it's an evil genie. You know what I mean? Where you're like, oh, I'd love to have like orgasms all the time. So you're like, OK, here you go. Yeah. And you're just tortured all day long. What's it called there? Persistent genital arousal disorder is a phenomenon in which afflicted women experience spontaneous genital arousal. Oh, so it's just women. Unresolved, I believe so. See, men have a very strong refractory period post-orgasm. That's why women can have multiple orgasms. Yeah, imagine how tired you'd be all day if that was a game. To see the trains. What was it? Indiana Jones? His eyes all sunken. Was it on Indiana Jones with that one guy like, he shrinks up and shrivels up? That would be you. Three into a skeleton. Yeah. Adam, obviously. He looks like he's 70. And he's a fluid. Reps a lotion on him or something. He looks like he's all dried up. He's constantly drinking water. Yeah, look at this. The current case is a 40-year-old female who experienced such orgasms for about a month. Wow. A whole month. You can't get anything done? No. Man, that's terrible. Yeah. Terrible. Anyway, more cool articles. That was a cool one, but I read another one. That is interesting. This one's really fascinating. So they did this study, this kind of big study, and obviously people are getting fatter. It's happening all over the world. And the explanations for this rise in obesity is increase in calories and decrease in activity. And that's been the explanation. But we're also seeing an increase in obesity among animals. So first they said, okay, pets, well, that makes sense. They're eating more scraps off the table. Yeah. The behaviors of people, their pets tend to match. Of course. So if you're, and this is true, fat people tend to have fat pets and whatever, right? Just like your kids. It's not genetic. It's more of a behavior thing or whatever. Sure. But then they went a step further. Like wild animals, too? Animals in zoos who have the same activity level all the time, measured food intake all the time. There's like a significant increase in obesity among animals in the zoo. Yeah, but that's still not, that's terrible. I mean, there's still humans that are controlling the feeding of that. That's what I'm saying. And what they're saying, and it's very structured. Like zoos are very, very meticulous about how much they feed animals and how much activity they have. I don't know. I don't buy that. I don't buy that. It's the same as like the Chipotle guy who scoops my fucking meat and beans. Like they, Hey, if you talked to Chipotle, they would tell you this is a half a scoop equals X amount of calories. No, he's a heavy-handed guy. Yeah, exactly. But a 100%, and I know you guys can attest to this. When you go to Chipotle, it's very inconsistent. It's weight. So you can't tell me some zookeeper who makes minimum wage is like, oh, this is protocol. We have to do one scoop of corn. They don't make minimum wage. No, it doesn't work like that. Bro, this isn't that tiger guy, the tiger king. No, yeah. These are real zoos, San Diego zoos. That's called bullshit on your study. No, it's going to be in the show notes so people can read it. No, they literally won't, they're very meticulous. They measure the food, the energy, everything. Stop it, dude. Really? That's what they do. But they're confined too, like activity wise. That's what they say. Okay, so if you were to ask, like I said, Chipotle as a franchise, do you guys have rules? I don't think, way looser than the zoo. All I gotta do is say, hey, man, can I get some more? And then he does. All it takes is a zookeeper guy who likes the rhino a lot so he gives a little love. That's not how it works. The tiger just swings at him a little bit. What do you mean it's not how it works? You think it's like auto feeding? He likes me. You think they have like a measuring thing that gives them exactly the same food? Well, it's controlled. And I can tell you what they said in the study because these are controlled feedings and there's a- Here's Simba. Here's a little more. And a lot of these zoos, you could go to the little thing and you could pay 25 cents and get the little treats and throw it to them. That's just for the sheep and the llamas. Can't do that for the bears and the tigers and the expensive animals. Are they accounting for the popcorn? Yeah, it makes its way in there. Right. I'm poking holes in your study, bro. Those are expensive ass animals. And those zoo, those are people are scientists. Yeah. They're not just like, you think it's like- The scientists are not feeding the fucking rhinos, dude. That's not what's going on. Anyway, so this is what the study said, Adam. All right. It says- Justin, whose side do you want to go? I don't know. I'm kind of- Don't you have to take- Hey, there's three of us. You have to take a side when things like this happen on the show. I mean, there's scientists involved, but I like your theory. Yeah, I do. I like it, but it's not true. It's enough to poke holes in his study. It's a funny theory and that's what I like. This is important to see. Here's what I like about what you're saying, Adam. And here's what I like about what Sal said. No definitive. See, you'd get nothing out of that. No, so what the study said is they think that the chemicals that are- Everybody's being exposed to, including animals, these endocrine disrupting chemicals. Did I say that right this time, Doug? No. Never say it right. Endocrine. Endocrine. Endocrine disrupting chemicals, xenoestrogens, are causing everything to get fatter. And that's one of the reasons why they think this is happening. Really? So, yeah. So it's not the chip only- It's making its way in the meat. I'm going with the chipotle theory. It's because they're just exposed. Chemicals, pollution, plastics, everything. Wow. And so everybody's- Making that much of an impact. I'm just picturing a zookeeper. He's got a scooper. A little extra for you today. Yeah. Fluffy. Yeah. See, I thought you were going to go more in the direction of, you know how bears and wild animals, they find their way towards people, visiting, and then they go through the dumpsters and eat a bunch of shit, and that's how they're getting fat. Yeah, no. No, they were talking about zoo animals, which I thought was fascinating, because zoo animals, they're controlled. Yeah. You know? If you talk- Kind of. Okay, so- Kind of. You ever talked to- You ever talked to people- Suspect. At work at a zoo? Sure. You have? Yeah. You're such a liar right now. You're going to get a lot of messages. You've never talked to anybody at the zoo. I took my job seriously. I know, there's going to be some kiddies out there. He said- Minimum way of zoologists. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing like chipotle. No, wait, bro, you can't- Okay, listen, there's definitely some probably very brilliant people that work at the zoo. So, I know I insulted everybody that works at a zoo, right? So, okay, listen, there's probably some really- So, we were backtracking. Yeah, let me backbend a little bit right here. I don't want my fucking DMs flooded with people that are insulted by their education, that their formal education they went through to work at the zoo. Listen, there's definitely people there that are very smart, that are probably controlling these things. But you cannot tell me the job of the person that goes around every morning or twice a day and feeds a lot of these animals, okay, are the scientists. That's not who's doing that. Come on. Well, I mean, it's- So, it's very interesting. That wouldn't be very cost effective. Look, this is one of the top theories because they're trying to figure it out because, look, I've talked to people who work in zoos, okay? I actually have. I actually have. Do you have a lot of zoo friends? Yeah. Do you have a lot of zoos friends? Do you have a lot of zoos friends? You gotta let them come to dinner all the time. No, dude, I think it's fascinating. And they literally measure in way. We feed the lions, you know, three pounds of red meat and two pounds of this and whatever. Well, yeah, they monitor their weight and their health constantly. But, yeah, I don't know, dude. Honestly, there's a lot of people that really take this seriously scientifically. But, yeah, I like the theory, though. It's fine. Well, in the same article, they were saying how animals in the wild are getting fatter. But, see, that could be explained away, too. Like you said, Justin. Yeah, there's a lot of fat people camping. Yes. Or they were saying that rural rats were getting fatter. Again, I could explain that away, too. Right. Because there's more shit and food left everywhere. So, but look, it is interesting, you know, because then you have the other stuff that's happening, which is like testosterone levels of males dropping considerably. You're seeing hormone changes in children. Right. You got to consider that, too, in terms of being cooped up and only having so much space available. That's got to do something to your hormones as well, right? I don't know. What about that, too? What about the size of these pens for over the course of the last 30 years for zoos, too? Have they reduced the size of what the animals are? Well, I know San Diego is like one of the best, because, whoa, I just did something this good. Yeah, you just spilled a bunch on that. You just keep dropping more shit over there. It's fine, Doug, don't worry. You got all crazy. Yeah, no. It's the best because it has so much open space in less fences and things. So, yeah. Yeah. You know, I used to like zoos, and then Jessica ruined it for me. Why? Because she's like, I've tried to talk to her. I love zoos. I love seeing... Big zoo guy. Animal. I'm a big zoo guy, right? I like seeing animals. I think it's fascinating. But she made me feel real bad because she's like, she goes, I'm not supposed to be able to see a polar bear or a lion or a tiger here in San Diego or whatever. She goes, it's weird. And they're captive and this and that. And of course, I do the whole like, oh, but they're taken care of and they donate so much money to help preserve these animals and so that. She goes, no, it's still not, you know, whatever. And she's, I mean, she makes good points. So I'm not going to zoos anymore. Oh, that just... Really? Yeah. A release is not going to go to a zoo? That documentary came out, was it Blackfish about that whole thing? And yeah, like SeaWorld and all that. It kind of ruined it for me a bit. But yeah, I mean, it's... It isn't natural. It's not their natural environment, but also too. Like how else are a lot of people going to be able to see these animals? They're not going to go in safari. It just looks like you got to weigh it out. He's like, yeah, you got to weigh it out. Animals and captivity and, you know, human's enjoyment. Yeah, I mean, it's entertaining. Well, what about the survival rate though? So I understand like the whale theory. That one's terrible, right? Whales are used to... I mean, they have like the most... They have the most area to roam than anybody and they can put these little fucking pools. Like that's pretty ridiculous, right? And they live pretty long, don't they? I don't know. You don't know that? No. Big zoo guy, but you don't know how long whales live? It's okay. I'm not a whale. A lot of lies coming out of you today, I feel like, dude. Yeah, no, I hear what you're saying, but I mean... But yeah, what's the survival rate of like a... They live longer in captivity, obviously. Right. Yeah, I know that, but I mean, would you... Let me ask you this. And you get filet mignon for dinner almost every night? Bro, yeah, but think about it this way. You as a human, if I put you in this big ass cage with lots of whatever you want, with Fidi all the time, you watch TV, you just can't leave. And oh, but don't worry, you'll live 10 years long. Would you want to do it? Well, you have a conscious, different, right? So you think about stuff like that, where their whole purpose is to survive, right? Is to eat and survive. I don't know. And they're going to eat and survive longer than that. I don't know. Again, you could argue it either way. Yeah, look at that. Blue whales live to their 90? Yeah, so that's kind of... You're 90 years out in the ocean on your own, and then you get stuck in a pool. I don't think they put a blue whale in the... Did you see the killer whales? How long is killer whale? 29 years. Oh, okay. By the way, have you seen killer whales hunt? Have you watched documentaries on them? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're super smart. Bro, there was a seal on a floating iceberg, just safe. They created a massive wave to knock them off. They swim up and the wave knocks them off? They do stuff like that all the time to pin animals. It's pretty fascinating. Oh, yeah. They're really smart. Did you see two octopuses, like they've... Octopi. Well, whatever. I like saying pusses, because it's more... Okay, okay, you know. I don't know. Go with it. It's all icing. Go with it, Justin. I'm with it. Yeah, so the pusses, they... The scientists have basically determined that they're from outer space. I'm serious. What the hell are they called? I'm serious. They think that they're aliens that made their way to Earth like thousands of years ago. You know what I hate about that? I'm like, come on, really? You know what I hate about that? This is what I hate. I hate it when scientists... Whenever we don't know... Check me on that, then. That's the thing, right? Let me make a leap. Yeah. I don't know how this was made. Must be aliens, you know? Yeah. So they think that octopi or octopi... Yeah, the octopuses, they can change their... They can alter their DNA. There's all kinds of weird traits that they have that... Aren't jellyfish crazier? They're weirder, aren't they? What is? As jellyfish. Don't they live longer and they're more... We can't explain more about them than the octopus, right? I don't know. Where are you living? Yeah, there's some of them. No, some jellyfish live forever. Yeah, some of them. Yeah, jellyfish live for a long ass time. Like they don't die of old age. Yeah. Oh, I do remember that. Yeah. So with octopus... I know where you got this from. This is from Grand Hancock, right? Is that where you read this? Yeah, it might be, but yeah, there's something else from Grand Hancock I wanted to bring up. They were saying... They were saying... There you go. Wow. A scientific paper claims... Hey, it says octopuses, too, Justin. Yeah! Wow. See, it is the puses. You're trying to correct me. They come from outer space. I like the short, just puses. Yeah. A scientific paper claims that these wondrously smart undersea animals are actually aliens brought to Earth by meteors. Meteor travelers. It's a low... I don't know. They don't survive very long outside of the water. I mean, it's a working theory. Well, they just did some tests and they determined that they feel pain and that they have emotions surrounding pain, which I think is kind of a... Well, they're super smart. It just doesn't make sense. Yeah, didn't you cover that in that documentary that you talked about, Justin? What's that documentary that's out on Netflix right now? The one with the guy who fought with his friend. Yeah, the weird dude that befriended the octopus. Yeah, that was actually really fascinating. Yeah, because it was really the only time they've had insight on the behavior of how they interact. Right. Yeah, and so he actually immersed himself every day and filmed and documented interacting with this octopus and it was pretty trippy. Have you seen them escape? You ever seen videos of them escaping a jar? I mean, they're really smart. Yeah, they figure their way around all kinds of stuff. Do you guys like eating octopus? Yes. No. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I knew you. I knew you wouldn't just say. Yeah, I know. Chicken fingers. Here comes the joke. Here comes the chicken fingers joke. The audience should know that anytime we go to like a seafood restaurant or she... She orders off the kids' menu. We always tease Justin. Well, I'll have fries. Do you guys have corn dogs or chicken nuggets? Chicken nuggy? Please, do you guys have chicken nuggets? Could you get my friend a coloring book too, actually? Justin's all, I like fish. It tastes better. He's got like, you know, fish sticks. Yeah. With tartar sauce. Anyway, that's interesting. All right, you guys ready for some controversial stuff? Oh, please, bro. It's controversial time. All right, so this... I actually looked this up. This is a real... These are real statistics that are a bit controversial, but they're real. And I just saw Michaela Peterson. She had her dad, Jordan Peterson, on the podcast and they talked about this. This is a legit thing. So for every 16 points above 100 on IQ test, so for every 16 additional IQ points above 100 that a woman has, she has a 40% reduction in her odds or probabilities of getting married. For a man, every 16 points... Wait, wait, wait. So the smarter she gets, the less likely she's to get married? Big time. Wow. What does that say about us? Hold on a second. For a man... We're a little fragile. Yeah, I know, right? And is that like... Can't handle that. Is that like across generations or is that just right now? This is just when they studied for long periods of time, this is what they find. For man, every 16 points above 100 that a man goes up in IQ, he has a 35% increase in likelihood of getting married. So it explains that we need them. That's what you're saying. Well, no, so what they're... They don't need us. And this is what the science says. The science says it's because women tend to be attracted to men that are... They want to be with a man that's smarter, whereas men tend to want to be with a woman... Oh, so as they get smarter, it tends to hurt a little bit. It does. So if they're really, really smart... They're too smart for us men. Then they're finding... They're looking for a man that's smarter than them. It's harder for smarter women to find equally or greater smarter men. I mean, I totally... Just subscribe to that. Think of your clients. So I've trained a lot of really brilliant women that were CEOs, VPs, and so on. And yes, and always complaining to me, God, Adam, I can't find anybody. Yeah, so that's interesting. It is, right. Now, what's so controversial about that? Well, it's just controversial because it says... Who's getting mad about that? Guys? We're getting mad because we sound stupid, right? No, I think it's because... To some people, it sounds like, oh, does that mean that women, they have to be with someone smarter? Or is it because guys are scared to be with someone that's smarter than them or whatever? So it causes a lot of relatively controversial conversations. But I do think it's fascinating. I do think it's very, very interesting. And you know what's funny? Was it you, Adam, that sent me that... Was it that article that talked... Oh, no, no. It was that book that talked about how we like to... We always try to go towards the mean. Was it that book that you were showing? What book? I mean... It was the one you played in here. No, no, no. Oh, he doesn't say I played a lot of books for you. Yeah, thinking fast and slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like with height, right? Women tend to want to be with men taller. Men tend to want to be with women shorter. And their children tend to be... If the man is extremely tall, the children tend to be a little bit more average or whatever. Reduction to the mean. Yes, reduction to the mean. So I wonder if I has to do with that with intelligence, where one wants one smarter, one wants one dumber. Yeah, you know what? I actually think I read this somewhere. That's actually... Yeah, I think you're exactly right. No, that's really interesting. I just don't see why that's controversial, though. I don't see where someone's going to be in a... I do think it's funny, though, when people say... I guess I could see how some man would be intimidated, because there's that whole like, I need to be the guy thing. Opposite for me, I think intelligence is extremely attractive. It's like my number one turn on, for sure, absolutely. We're always trying to generalize human behaviors and try and put it in categories and hope that it keeps playing out like that, but it's all over the place. Yeah, there's too many other variables. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's just like, I bring this, I brought it up before. What's the study thing like to duplicate a study? It's like... Especially behavioral studies. Yes, yeah. Like a majority of them, they try to duplicate them and it just doesn't go out the window. Well, true science is going in to prove it wrong every time. Right? That's not... The mentality isn't to prove your hypothesis, it's to see if you can duplicate it or if it doesn't, if you're going through that again, to see if it fails. I just feel like we become this society, too, that leans so heavily, though, on studies. Oh, this study said this, it's so easy. And then we throw out common sense. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, common sense or stuff that we've seen for years and years and years, right? It's funny to me that... And when you look at, actually, research how consistent studies really are, they're very inconsistent. And you're actually... So I'll go in another direction with that. So the CDC just came out and said that fully vaccinated people now can gather indoors, no problem. But they still say everybody should wear masks in public. And so it was on a page on Instagram. And so, of course, I do my thing. I leave my controversial comment and get just blasted. I mean, can we just think about that for a second? Yeah. How ridiculous that sounds. Well, I was just going to say this is the common sense versus study thing, right? So studies will show that if people wear masks, there's going to be less infections. But we completely ignore the common sense that says that... And by the way, science supports this as well, that people need to see other people's faces wear social creatures. In fact, a big part of our brain is dedicated to reading faces. This is why humans can make faces out of almost anything. You can look at a car and you can see a face. You can look at a toaster and see a face. It's a big part of who we are. And the intricacies of reading people's emotions and faces is a very important part of our social health. And we're not considering that. It's all about infection rates. And they're not considering like, what is the potential damage of forcing, especially children, to wear masks all the time around each other? There's a trade-off. It's not a zero... It's not zero trade-off. There's some trade-off. Yeah, I thought I see... We're at record highs right now, aren't we? Yeah, for the COVID deaths right now. Where are we at? No, no, no. Are we going down? Yeah, big time. We've been going down for a while now. Well, tell me. I'm not paying attention to this stuff anymore. And I know you're still... So once the election happened, I'm over. And I was like, I'm so over this. It's like the... Again, I always give the analogy like sport. It's like the Super Bowl is over. I don't care anymore. Yeah, I don't care anymore. I'm not going to talk about football all fucking off season. Wait till next season. But I mean, I expect nerdy guys like you that like politics stuff, to still be keeping me informed on all this stuff. So I mean, break it down to me. It's way down. And the U.S., the cases have come down significantly. In California, they've come down quite a bit. So I mean, good news. There's good news is it's coming down quite a bit. So we're on a downtrend right now. Does that mean it can switch and reverse? I don't know. Now what about state by state? Because now we're starting to see that when we see Texas, Mississippi, Florida, we've got a handful of these states that are like full-on open up, right? So are we comparing like those two? What's going on? I find it interesting. What was it? Florida has been pretty much open since August. And they have the highest percentage of population of like elderly people. They do. They're a very old population. Right. So you'd think that if all, you know, played out the way that the media has been portraying it, like there'd be a lot of deaths. I was just talking to Jessica about this the other day, the brilliance in some of the ways that our government was initially set up and in the brilliance of states, states have powers that the federal government doesn't. Now the federal government has grown in power or just, you know, exponentially over the last, you know, I don't know, 10 decades or whatever. But the states still have quite a bit of power and in the way our government is designed, some states can say no masks or you have to wear a mask and we don't have a federal mandate. And if we did, it'd be so hard to encourage it to, what's the word, you know, make sure everybody was doing stuff, right, from a federal standpoint, you couldn't necessarily do that. So what's good about that? Well, what's great is that we can compare. Yeah. So we can literally in five years look back and say, all right, Texas, Florida, California, they're all big states. They've got metropolitan areas. They're similar enough to where we can compare them. California still has their mask mandates, Florida and Texas don't. Let's compare them and see what the difference is. There's gotta be a counter argument to that right now, right? What's the argument to that? Otherwise, everybody would open up, right? If you have places like Florida that it's not going, it's not right now. Or the argument is by opening up, you're going to cause another spike in infections. That's the argument. So again, it's a waiting game right now. It's, okay, let's see what happens in these states in the next five, six months. And then we'll make our prediction. Right, but a lot of people are getting vaccinated and then Johnson and Johnson's vaccine is going to be coming out. Don't you think that's going to be the counter that people are going to say that? Oh, that's because everybody, by now, we have a percentage of X amount of people now. I don't know if it's reached that number yet. There's a lot. But the cases were dropping really fast before enough people were getting vaccinated to really make a dent anyway. But Johnson and Johnson's vaccine is coming out and their vaccine is very interesting because the other two vaccines, what is it, Pfizer and Moderna, they require two injections and they need to be stored at like super cold temperatures. So it's kind of a pain in the ass to administer and store and it's very inefficient. Johnson and Johnson's doesn't need to be stored that way and it's only one shot. Now, wasn't it you that was telling me that this isn't even like a true vaccine? It's like a gene modulator or something like that. Isn't it different than like normal? The RNA ones? The other two ones are mRNA vaccines. And now, so I heard this, I heard this, don't know if it's true, haven't confirmed this or not. Love to look this up and see if it's true. But I've seen people saying that they called their life insurance companies. Yes, I saw that. And the life insurance companies- We got to get to the bottom of this. Yeah, that's basically said, if I die from this vaccine, will my spouse get the life insurance money? Does this void my life insurance policy? And apparently they said it does void because it's an experimental vaccine. Is that true? Do you guys know? And I wonder if then that the Johnson and Johnson one would be different. I think it is, it's not a mRNA vaccine. Well, I mean, in terms of the life insurance policy, Doug's the life insurance guy, so he would have a better guess than any of us. I have no great guess, honestly. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. You're about as fucking worth as Justin with these arguments. Hey. Hey, yeah. Sorry about that. What are you doing? I have a stance. What are you two doing, a stance on something? But I will find out. Sorry, I actually think about things. Yeah. My bad, my goodness. Anyway, hey, how about those fights over the weekend? Oh, yeah. I was let down a little bit, Del. Why? The main fight was a little... Well, Nunez. I mean, it was such a... She's a beast. Yeah, actually. Nunez destroyed. That, it looked like a mismatch to me. Dude, nobody's matching up the Nunez. Yeah, but they can't find anybody. Exactly. That was like the best contender for her. I mean, that girl has been whooping ass. She's six foot. She's a big girl. Yeah. I mean, if there was anybody that had a chance at her, I mean, that's, she's, there's nobody. Yeah. And now, what was the guy's name that need the dude whose head was down? Yeah. I can't think of who it is right now. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. That was the third, it was the third main. It was like the, there was three, there was three championship fights. Yeah. So that was the first of the three. What a bad call. I guess he said it was his corner that told him to do that. He thought it was, but you can, they replayed it and showed it. It was so deliberate. Don't hit him. I think he hurt, I think he misheard. So Justin has a theory that I think has legs. What? He thinks, well, tell him what your theory is. Well, honestly, because of like incidences like that, like it's, it's so deliberate. And it happened, like he was, he was, like when they were going through this, like look at the judges scoring, like he was, he was winning. Obviously. And it's like to do something like that just looks like a thrown fight to me. Peter Yan. Yeah. Like I've seen like a lot of these, I mean, sometimes you see it as like a, what do they call that? Like a faint like punch or like a, like a, yeah, like a missed punch. And then the guy pretends like, oh, like he's all hurt. I mean, I could see that. Like he's winning. He knows he's women winning. There might be some money involved. Well, it just feel, it felt too fishy to me. That's interesting. That is an interesting thing. Cause it was so obvious. Well, and the money line on that was like way skewed too. Oh yeah. So that's what makes it more. One of the odds like 500 something. Yeah. It was, it was like, it was way skewed. So that makes that more believable. And if there's a way that you're going to get away with throwing a fight like that, like if he wasn't even like, did you see his reaction after the whole thing? Like he was so aloof about the whole thing. Like dude, you just like through the fight. You dumb ass. Like what, what did you do that for? And he's, he's Russian, isn't he? No. Peter Yan. Is he from Russia? Now here's the thing that we're all challenging. Not that I disagree. I think it's an interesting theory. And we're definitely stirring up controversy by saying some shit like that. But what is different about UFC right now, we talked about this while we're at the house, like no crowd, right? So these guys can actually hear a lot of what their corner is saying. And there's a lot of these guys that are actually, I mean, you could, I've watched several UFC fights where I can hear as a spectator, I can hear the corner and then I can see the fighter totally listen to what they're saying and then change whatever he's doing. Right. And what they tried is what he claimed was that he thought he heard. He heard them say hit him. And they said, don't hit him. And so that's what happened. And so he just responded to his corner. And so that's also believable to me too, because normally they wouldn't even hear that. It's so loud at a fight like that that they don't hear. Well, let me ask you guys a question though. Are you, I mean, maybe this is true. Are you that much of a robot when you're fighting that you do what your corner, like is that part of the training? Well, I don't know. Because I feel like it was so obvious to do what he was down. Well, no, come on, dude, in a fight, dude, it's like a lot of split second moments, right? And instinct. And so he just like hit him, go. Yeah, exactly. You hear ni-ni and it's possible. Yeah. I mean, it's, I don't know. It's, I think you have an interesting theory on that. It just smelled fishy. That's all I'm gonna say. I'm not definitive. I thought what was fishy to me to your point was how Homeboy reacted afterwards because he acted so like, so dazed. Well, he did get need in the head of that too. He did, but it seemed like it was a little extra. But even, you've seen people get knocked out too and then like come too and they're like totally coherent and like fine, you know? And so to him to still be hurt, that was also a little suspect. Yeah, I've seen fights like that where a guy gets hit in the nuts and then he's like, oh, I can't fight. But normally they do a no contest, but because that looked deliberate. Well, what was in his benefit for still fighting after that? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. He had no, like, there was no, like, except for his own sort of, you know, ego going forward. It was, Peter Yen was getting very dominant and his defense was so solid. I mean, he couldn't break his defense, you know? But I agree with you. I mean, in the Russian mob, they've got their hands on a lot of things. So who knows, man? Yeah, so you know who was dominant in this fight too was the other guy under Khabib's training partner. Oh, he was, I forgot. He was amazing to watch. Incredible. Yeah, incredible. His wrestling was on point. All right, I got another study for you guys. I read her a lot this weekend. I know, I do. Sometimes. You're a reader. No. Well, you know what's funny? So leaders are readers. Along those lines. Not a book reader. You're right. Along those lines. So on the Mind Pump Instagram page, we did this whole, like... Three truths, one lie. Three truths, one lie. And then the idea was pick the lie, and then you'll, I don't know, like win a prize or whatever. Did you ask Chokey how many people got that wrong? I bet a lot of people did that wrong. She said almost all of them. Yeah. So I had three truths and one lie. The lie for me was... Tell all the truths first. I don't remember exactly who all of them were. Oh my God, it was your thing. You don't remember? Come on, dude. Didn't you write it down? I got a selective memory. Well, I mean, you're going to share it on the show. You got to tell everybody. Not everybody's following on Instagram. All right, I'll pull it up right now. Yeah, yeah. All right, here they are. So here are the statements. Okay, you guys don't know which one the lie is, but one of them is, I personally sold over a million commissionable dollars at 24 Fitness in two years. Another one was... Oh, no brag. I was a Premier, exactly. This is an opportunity. I was a Premier banker with the Series 6 and 63 license. I played the trumpet for four years, and then I read a lot of books. And the lie was that I read a lot of books. Yeah, I bet you a lot of people picked trumpet. Yeah, I didn't know... I actually didn't know you played for four years. I know you played it. I didn't know you were four years. Yeah, I did. Wow, so did you get okay at it? Would you play us the trumpet maybe? Right, dude, I haven't played in so long. The Saints go marching in on here, dude. No, I can't do it. No, nothing? I can't. I can make the sound. That's about it. Do it right now. No, with the trumpet. But yeah, a lot of people think I read a lot of books, but I don't. I read a lot of articles, studies, and blogs. I don't read a lot of books. Yeah, I guess that one right. Yeah, Adam gets annoyed with me. He's always sending me books. So I'll talk about this on the podcast. Yeah, I'm like, I want him to read it. Give me the cliff notes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so anyway. Then he sends it over to Jessica, then he gives me like the short, like the cliff note version of it. So now I just skip him. So study, here's the study. So melatonin production at night, right? It's anti-inflammatory. It's an antioxidant. Low melatonin levels reduce growth hormone output. It accelerates aging. Melatonin, when you sleep, very important. In fact, even we just talked about COVID earlier, people with good melatonin levels less likely to get infected or with severe symptoms of COVID even. They're showing you some studies. Anyhow, wearing blue light blocking glasses at night increases melatonin production by a whopping 58%. Wow. 58, that's huge. Yes, yes. That's not a small amount. So literally, wearing blue light blocking glasses for two hours before you go to bed versus not wearing them and just looking at your lights and all that stuff, a 58% difference in melatonin. I have to admit that of all the nerdy things that I do now, that is one that I do consistently that I would have, if you would have asked me, seven, eight years ago as a trainer, like if I would wear, be scoffing. Oh my God, all day. I would laugh at that. I remember when all of us were. So loud. Oh yeah. No way. Because it's so dorky forever. You know? Like I just, I couldn't get into it. It's probably still too really dorky. It probably is. It's probably still real. But it works. It works and it makes a big difference. Yeah, well we went to Paleo FX years ago and we're walking around and then there's a bunch of people wearing orange glasses everywhere. The daytime, it was daytime that their kids were wearing them. Whole families. Yeah. And what it felt like was exactly like when we go to the bodybuilding conventions and you have a bunch of dudes walking around stringers. It's like the exact same thing. I remember wearing their moccasins. I went to, I remember, I think it was the Arnold Classic and it was like in Columbus, it was like snow outside and people are walking in with stringer tanks and stuff like that out of here. Yeah. It's not even. Jess is pretentious, right? It's crazy outside. But it works, dude. It's become one. That's a big percentage, dude. Yeah. And over time, it makes a big difference. You can feel it. You can feel it. If you, and anybody that I know that we've turned on to using the glasses will DMs me all the time like, wow, I can notice a huge difference. And when you, where you notice it the most is when you don't. So if you wear them consistently for a while, like it's hard because I feel like it's, it gets better and better. It's a little subtle, you know, a lot of people aren't aware that even myself who's paying attention, I feel like at first I wasn't, I didn't really notice it. It's when I would forget. When I would forget to wear it. And then I could really tell like, oh, shit, that makes a big difference. Well, it's like going back to the whole zoo thing. I think the environmental factors are a lot bigger than people realize, you know, just because it may, it's so subtle, you know, like you're just exposed to lights, you know, or whatever. Like it doesn't seem like that big a deal, but if like it depends on the amount and every day and the volume, it just adds up. Exactly. And along those lines, the, that one article I brought up earlier about, you know, people getting fatter and whatever, the scientists in there talked about just along the lines of what you're saying, Justin, the fact that everything is so temperature controlled, that we burn less calories. Because when we're cold, we shiver. When we're hot, we, our bodies try to adapt. And that process of acclimating to the temperature burns calories, but because we're always in temperature controlled environments, we're not getting, we're not exercising that muscle. Oh, that speaks to, I was listening to, you know, John Romano, like that interview you did just recently. He's talking about Colleen Buterall and just like that being the side effect, like bodybuilders were attracted to it because of the side effects of it, where it just, you just shiver all the time and you just like burn more calories. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah, I was like, wow. I'm like, that's why it works. Yeah. That sucks. Back to your Xenoestrogens and that claim to, that's why all their animals are fat. Yeah, Fadzoo animals. Yeah. What are, for humans, what are the biggest rocks in that area, right? Like is it microwaving your food in plastic? Is it drinking drinks out of plastic? Is it the hair and face products? Like there's so many things that carry that. What are like the, and I'm somebody, let's say I'm somebody who definitely, every time Sal does a study, I go out and try whatever he's saying or get better at my daily habits. What are the areas that you would tell somebody like, maybe check these boxes? Plastic containers is one of the bigger ones, for sure. Storing your food in plastic containers. Drinking water all the time. Yep, in the cold or the heat, over time. Do you think that's what's made the rise of like brands like Mir and stuff like that with the, the, the... That's gotta help, right? You think that's why the... Just the awareness. Cause I feel like those have exploded. Like those water bottles and things like that. Like that wasn't a big deal when we were, like when we first started in fitness, not everybody carried those insulated water bottles. Is that more like plastic, like protein shakers? Totally, 100%. Yeah, I think so. Also, I think people are more environmentally conscious. So I don't know about you guys, but I used to buy big packs of bottled water and whatever, and that's what I would drink my water. And then you just start to realize like, holy shit, I'm throwing away hell of plastic bottles all the time. Yeah, just wasteful. Wasteful. So then I got a water purifier, and then I put water in a, you know, insulated container, like a mirror cup or whatever. Keep it cold all day. Keep it cold all day. It's not plastic. So it's not being stored in plastic, and you're not getting those Zener estates. Yeah, cause I remember reading someone, it's already bad enough to drink out of that. It's really bad if like you leave it in your car and then the sun like heats it up, right? Isn't that like... Or cold. Oh, cold will do too. Any extreme temperature will cause the plastic to leach into the cup. I didn't know that. So if you put like it, cause what's really common, you go to like any kids soccer field or like that, like a cooler full of these in the ice. Yeah, you throw those water bottles in the ice. Really? Now it's over time. It gets worse and worse. So if you freeze it and then, you know, you get it out after, you know, a month or whatever. But yeah, all, and even if you just leave it in, even if it's at normal temperature over time, some of that... Leaches in. Some of that's going to be in the water. Oh, interesting. And then the second big offender, oh, you know what's a big one too? The waxy coating on like receipts. Yes, I remember that. That's a big one? Huge. Matt Max talks about that. I remember Max talking about it. I didn't know it was a big one. Not big is in like you're, like you're getting most of your zeno esters. I'm so glad I never... Just a lot of relics. I always tell him, no, no, no, I keep the receipt. No, what he's saying is, and I looked into this, is there's a lot just on one receipt. So it's a lot of exposure just from touching that waxy material on the receipt. I always never get a receipt, by the way. I don't know why. Are there areas that you guys would admit that you're good at and that you're bad at and that? With this, with the camera? Yeah, yeah. Because it's got to be area... None of us are perfect, let's be honest. No, I don't even pay that much attention to what I'm saying. It took me a long time. Matter of fact, thanks to Doug, right? Doug saw this, especially when I was competing. I was notorious for microwaving shit in plastic and not getting... And I remember Doug buying me all the glass jars trying to save my life. He's like, we need you around in five or 10 years. Yeah. Jesus, is that extreme? This business goes anywhere. So he might have saved my life. So that was an area that I was really, really bad at. Are there things like, I don't use... Obviously, I don't use hair products. I'm not getting a lot of chemical. No, just, you know... Because it's nostalgia? Yeah, yeah, that's a high one too, right? Like just like beauty... Oh, lotions? Of course. Like my Juergens is like for me? Yeah. Really? Yeah, dude. All the lotions... There's got to be some good lotions then, right? Oh, how about this? Like the fabric softeners that you'll put on your clothes so that they're soft afterwards? That? I like that smell. Those will have some... Dude, I wonder too, because I was used to wear like my Apple Watch all the time and like Fitbit and all that. But then I started to get this like skin reaction to it and I could only go for so long before I would get irritated by it. Like I don't know what kind of like chemicals on that. I think it's just... That's not from your Apple Watch. Your wrist herpes should have got that jerk out. Seasonal, you know? Seasonal flare ups. First question is from Jaina Rollerfit. Can you actually reset your body's set point? I used to be 310 pounds. I got down to 155 pounds, but never can stay there long. My body keeps rebounding and staying at 195. I've been lifting for five years and tracking macros to lose weight. I would like my body to sit at 145 to 160 pounds. How can I reset my set point? You know, I never... 10 years in personal training, I don't think I even heard someone talk about set point. That was not like a common... Is it like getting marketed like crazy in Alaska? Because I feel like we've dressed this multiple times in the show. That and net carbs. Yeah, right. That is definitely one that's new for sure. No, I feel for her. So I feel for this person because... Or her... I think it's her for them because this can definitely be challenging. But here's the deal. Set point, the body's set point, definitely has been used by marketers to make you to sell you products. What they'll say is, it's your set point. Your body's natural physiology is making you this overweight. Try our product or our process to change your set point as if you would have this new normal. And now, no matter what you do, you can't gain weight because you have this new set point. Okay, so here's the truth. The 99%... There's definitely some physiological stuff that happens. We'll get to that in a second. But 99% of a set point is behavior, okay? When you have behaviors that have caused you to weigh 310 pounds at some point, which did not happen overnight, right? It takes a long time. It's a slow process of weight gain, oftentimes starting it as a child, right? Oftentimes, someone who's 310 pounds as an adult probably dealt with weight issues as a child. These are hard set psychological behaviors and attachments to food or food relationship issues. And that's very hard to change just because you lose weight doesn't mean you change those hard set behaviors and coping mechanisms. Yeah, many times you've just been really disciplined for an extended period of time. You've done it just through sheer will. Exactly. You see this at the highest level in competing. I mean, you'd be surprised how many of these kids that are getting up on stage and competing have all kinds of eating issues, just like these 310-pound people, which is different, you know? But they've been able to get on stage, present their physiques, because through sheer will, they can discipline themselves for a year straight of eating like regimen. Hey, this is it. Look, I'll tell you what. Statistically speaking, there's a significant percentage of people who get gastric bypass surgery, who gain the weight back. Now, consider, gastric bypass is about as extreme as it gets in terms of setting up blocks, preventing you from gaining weight. They literally bypass your stomach so that you don't have one, essentially, making it almost impossible to overeat, and yet a significant portion of people force themselves to gain weight. Actually, I worked with someone like this. I couldn't believe that this actually happened. So the set point is a behavior one. So here's my advice to this person asking this question. If you want to change your set point, work with the therapist. Work with someone who's going to work with your behaviors. That's where the issue lies. It's not some issue with your body that it wants to be in a particular way, because if we locked you in a laboratory and fed you the same amount and kept you certain period of active or whatever, your body would weigh whatever we'd want it to weigh. So also, I think it's important to acknowledge where homeostasis is, that maintenance is where your body's most comfortable based off of behaviors, based off the way you're training, you're eating, all these things, to then stretch yourself and push yourself to get into a different category, into a different level. You know, like you mentioned, a lot of it's behavioral driven. This isn't like a genetic limitation, which is kind of like what this implies. There's something metabolically going on here, though, too, that we have to address that's very common, right? Somebody who's 310 pounds drops all the way down to the 150 range. The amount of calorie reduction and movement and cardio and training this person probably did to get to that point was a lot, I bet. Probably. And a lot of times it was done with the intentions of how fast can I get this off my body versus what is the smartest way for me to get this way? Right, because we don't know what she did. Right, exactly. And many times what happens is the person who was this heavy got all the way down to 155 by doing things like eating 900 to 1200 calories a day, doing cardio, weight training, staying super active to get that point. And then what ends up happening when they reach that 155, let's say that was their target, they go, okay, I'm going to relax a little bit. And they're like enough of those crazy three-hour hikes or I'm not going to be taking that high-intensity cardio class all the time. Or I'm going to every once in a while enjoy myself because I'm down this way. And then what happens is the weight comes back on so rapidly because their body had adapted to eating so low of calories and moving so much that it's just not realistic to maintain that the rest of their life. And so when they just try and be somewhat normal and that doesn't mean like they don't, and I'm not saying this person goes from discipline and eating hardly anything and exercising like crazy to all of a sudden like, oh, fuck it. And that's what gains them back. No, you don't have to. Literally, when you've slowed your metabolism down to 900 to 1200 calories a day with intensive training all the time, it doesn't take much for that weight to start piling on. Make a couple bad choices a week and it comes on rapidly. Yeah, you see this when it's really fast. Everything is all cylinders and going 100%. And this is what we caution a lot with our clients coming in that want to lose a lot of weight is to really consider that, you know, you're going to be dramatically dropping calories. It's not sustainable. So to kind of like slowly edge your way down and build muscle at the same time is a better approach. Yeah, now I will say this. I'd like to add this as well to this person is also be kind to yourself. Your body sitting at 195, that's still a big, that's all, it's over a hundred pounds lower than where it used to sit before. Yeah, yeah. So you've gone a long way and you're still kicking ass. And so be okay with that. Accept the fact that you've gone a long distance, have some gratitude or I should say, be proud of that. And it's a slow process. It takes a long time, longer than people realize. The weight, keeping the weight off for forever part takes a lot longer than getting it off. Well, it takes, you also got to reframe your goal. Like so a lot of times when the goal is, when you're at 310, you just want to get the fat off. You just want to get, you want to lose weight. Once you make that decision, you just want to lose weight. You want to get down, you want to get down, but you really should be focused on building muscle, which means actually increasing calories and protein and strength training, reduction probably of all the high intensity and cardio. And I'm making a lot of assumptions right now, but this is speaking from experience. Normally the client that you get, like in this situation, they cut calories like crazy and they picked up activity. They just do tons of cardio. Tons, significantly to get to that point. And then they're in this. And this is why we see biggest loser people always pile the weight back on. And the only ones that you see keep it off for an extended period of time, hire a personal trainer to like hammer them every day. There is a small percentage of biggest losers, if you guys don't know, that actually maintain. That's like 15% or something. It's yeah, it's super low. And out of those, almost all of them, like enroll in something or have a trainer or coach that they hire to just keep pushing them and keep burning and keep burning. The most success I ever had with clients like this were when they worked with me. So I was the trainer and then they also had a therapist and they worked with the therapist. It was always the most successful formula. By far, me by myself, I could do pretty well, especially towards the end of my career because I got experience, but it just, it wasn't as good. When they had a therapist working on those behavioral issues on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, and then they train with me on top of it two days a week or three days a week, a tremendous success. And there's a couple people that I still keep in contact with who lost well over 100 pounds who've kept it off years and years later and they still are working with the therapist. They still meet with the therapist once a month or once every other week. Next question is from the Notorious Abe. When do you implement drop sets and super sets in your workouts? Okay, so drop sets and super sets. First off, a drop set, just so people don't know, is when you'll do X amount of reps with a certain weight and then when you can't do any more good reps, you drop the weight and then you move to a weight that's a little bit lighter and keep going. So an example would be, I'm doing curls with 30 pound dumbbells, I do 10 reps, I can't do any more, put the 30s down, grab the 25, squeeze out four more reps and I keep going as long as you want, right? You can drop down to three times, four times, or whatever. Super set is when you combine two exercises without any rest. Now make no mistake, these are both high intensity techniques, so they should be used judiciously. Yeah, intermittently. Intermittently and like any style of training, you're better off doing it for three, four weeks and then moving into something else because when you first do drop sets or you first do super sets, you're gonna get an incredible pump, you might even get some muscle building, but that effect will wear off quite quickly and then you need to switch to something else. I love tackling this one because we get this a lot and here's what I find that none of the studies that support all the benefits of super setting and drop setting don't talk about, the real value of it is it's great for a time crunch. You're increasing intensity and shortening the amount of time that you need to do that volume. That's what I do. That's exactly how I do. I just did this last week with us, right? So we've been training in the gym every morning together. The other morning I had, I was working, right now I'm doing a split where chest and back are one of my workout days, which chest and back, big muscles easily takes me an hour to get through all the stuff that I want to do. I was actually on my Instagram and emailing and I was responding, so I was sitting on the couch for the first 20 minutes why these guys were working out. Real quickly, the time went by, I knew we had to start to record and I didn't want to miss my chest and back day and so this was my workout. I instantly went to super setting, drop setting and I had this 20, 30 and I was sore as shit the next day because I don't utilize that tool all the time. To me, this is where I find the most value in it because that doesn't happen, it's not every day, it's actually not even every week or month where you might catch me sitting down during a workout time messing on my phone for 20, 30 minutes, but when those times do come, I don't freak out and go like, oh my God, I can't work out or I just ride it off and say, I'm not going to do it. Hey, I still got 20, 30 minutes, I haven't done any super sets and drop sets in a while, I'm going to knock this workout in in 20, 30 minutes and still get a great workout in. That's how I just throw them in for fun. It's one of those things that's like, there's a couple of techniques, they're a little more advanced, they're a little more crazy. These are those that fit right in where you want to blow up your muscles, you want to get that crazy pump, but it's not something that I'm constantly going to in terms of my programming. No, super sets and drop sets are not in the same category as straight sets, that's just 100%. But it is a wonderful tool and mainly it's to get a really, really good pump. That's what I get from it. Totally abused in the bodybuilding community. Yes. And it's what I used to see all the time with my peers. They loved, because it's an instant gratification thing. Yeah, you leave the gym, you look. Yes, just Justin's point. You get this sick pump, which is great. And the adaptations from that sick pump are great, but really only great for those first four to six weeks of messing with it. After you've done that for a while, the adaptations that you get from it, your body's pretty adapted to it. So you're not getting a ton of benefits if you're doing this consistently. You'll get way more benefits if you intermittently inject it into your workouts every now and then. And I think the best way to do it personally is the times when you don't have a lot of time. Mm-hmm. Next question is from Dan Cohen Solal. Is it healthy to have a protein shake every day? Any long-term health issues with that? Yeah, so I'll tell you guys a story to remind you. So I have a lot of cousins, and we're all right around the same age where I grew up together. And I've always been into working out, so they would always ask me questions about that. And I remember one of my cousins was trying to lose weight. And because he'd asked me questions so many times, I think he was like, I'm not going to ask Sal, I'm going to do some stuff and then see what I can do, right? Anyway, he comes to me and he's like, dude, Sal, I'm gaining body fat. I'm trying to get lean, but I keep gaining body fat. I don't know what the hell's going on. I'm like, well, let's talk about your diet or whatever. And he's like, yeah, so I'm eating this, that, and the other one goes, and it doesn't make any sense. I take two shakes every day, and I'm still getting fatter. I'm like, well, it's all extra calories, dude. Yes, calories. So my point with the story is that our protein shakes okay every day. It really depends on if it's throwing your calories over, then you're going to gain body fat. Is it helping you hit your protein requirements and your calories are good? Then it's going to be great for you. Protein shakes are a tool. They can be used in ways that are good, and they can be used in ways that are not so good. It all depends on your diet. It depends on your goals. And the quality of the protein. That's another powder too. Yeah, it's interesting because the common knowledge is that protein shakes or bars are health foods. And we've talked about this, and a lot of them are super processed, and have a lot of different sugars and sugar alcohols that they put in them. And so not all of them are equal. And also, nothing's going to beat just whole foods. And so this is why we stress that first and foremost. And then if your protein levels aren't where they should be, this is where we introduce that to compliment it. But it's complementary. It's not like a main food group. I feel like this is very similar to the superset question right before this. I feel like my goal is to always get all my calories through whole foods. The reality is that doesn't happen a lot of times. And when I have to, or when I'm low, I always do my shakes at the end of the day. That's just always how I eat it. It's like I look back at my day and I go, And that helps you dictate how much. Yeah, and that dictates if I'm going to take it or not. I go through my head and I go, and here's the thing. If I, let's say my protein intake, for me it's about 200 grams, right? If I land at like 170, I'm actually still not taking a shake. You know where I'm taking a shake is, and this happens when I have like 70 grams of protein for the day. You know, there's a day, there's easily a day where two of the meals were good size protein meals for me, but then maybe the other one or two were very carb heavy and I didn't get hardly any or no protein at whatsoever. And I'm sitting at the end of my night right now going, Okay, what do you do? What do you want, Masi? He doesn't like your answer. What do you want? I'm looking at the end of the night. What's he mad at? What's that all about? He's the light detector dog. I don't know, Adam. You've been taking shakes all day long. You drink a lot of shakes. Yeah, yeah. What was that all about, guy? Bad dream or what, huh? Out of nowhere. What did you do? What went out there, Doug? Was there someone out there? I didn't see anything. Oh, he just went all pissed off right there. No, so I'm using it if and only if. I'm not getting adequate protein, but and my goal is always to try and do it through whole foods. So, and if I catch myself, which happens, using a protein shake every single day for a few weeks in a row, that's kind of like I have, you know, the come to Jesus talk with myself and go like, okay, I can be better about making, you know, preparing my foods and making better choices. So, I don't have to use this all the time. Next question is from Matthew Lemming. What are your current thoughts on CrossFit? So, as a sport, it's awesome. Love to watch it. As a workout modality, it sucks. It still sucks. CrossFit's approach to training. Now, they've done some amazing things. They've brought some great things to the fitness space. They've done a ton. They've done a ton of stuff. A ton of great things for the fitness space. They got people squatting and deadlifting and doing all the best exercises. They got barbells to be cool, especially with women. CrossFit did that almost single-handedly. But the programming that they employ, unless you're going to compete in the sport of CrossFit, isn't very great. You know, case in point, right? Olympic lifts in a fatigue-based circuit. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Very complex exercise where they're safe, but there's a razor-thin line between safe and dangerous. Your form goes off a little bit. It's very dangerous. And one of the last things you ever do with exercise like that is do them to fatigue or for time in a circuit-based type of a workout. So, for those reasons, the programming, I mean, I think back to all the clients I've trained, and unless they wanted to compete in CrossFit, would I recommend any of them go work out with that CrossFit modality? No, I wouldn't, not at all. Yeah, I mean, you've got to really evaluate the quality of some of the types of exercises they promote and what kind of environment it is. The environment is to be able to get you through as many reps as possible, like AMRAP and all these types of acronyms and things that you attribute to CrossFit. It's really about trying to make things as competitive as possible. So you have regular pull-ups turn into kipping pull-ups where you're just getting through this type of momentum where I could just swing my way through this and you have to evaluate the long-term damage that's going to do to your joints. And it's just like it's appealing to athletes. And so this is why I came out with such a hard stance initially in the beginning because there's a lot of appeal to that type of mentality coming into that environment. Yeah, I'm going to smash it. I'm going to get after it. Everybody in here is like, we're all suffering together. Like it's the environment of suffrage, right? And there's a lot of appeal there. That's what's being promoted in marketing. But they're just not exposed to real training concepts and core values where you get better, you progress. You go through these things like there's a limitation to that and there's also an injury on the other side of what a lot of the programming presents. I want to be very clear on who I'm talking to and who I'm not talking to. So if I'm talking to somebody who is pretty young, pretty fit, athletic background, pretty mobile, loves the community, it's made them more consistent than they've ever been in their life. They've watched their squat and deadlift progress. They don't have any aches or pains and they love it. They love training this way. I'm not talking to you. You're a very small percentage. I'm talking to the first question that we just had, right? We just had somebody which is actually more like the people I'm used to training, which is somebody who is trying to lose a bunch of weight and is struggling to get to their, or figure out their quote unquote set point and get to a place where they can maintain a weight and feel happy about where they're at. This is most people that we train most of our life. And a super intense competitive environment of training is one of the worst things that that person can be in. Because that person is, it's not, it's already, it's already tough for that person to get fit and to get in shape. That is not sustainable for most people. And Justin's right. It appeals to that athletic mindset of my ex-athletes. But if you are trying to make change to your body and you want, whether that be losing body fat or building muscle, you want to make a static change, it's just, it's not an ideal modality. And it's definitely not. And maybe it is to get some people there, right? They, they see quick results because of how high intensity it is. You're doing all these great compound lifts and you have the community and the support. And so they think that this is a really good modality that they should stay in. The reality is it's really tough to train that way for a long period of time. I see some, even of our friends that are big CrossFit names like the Jason Khalippas and stuff. And I, I watched like their Instagram, my buddy Neil Maddox like, and man, I go, God, I would, I would hate. Here I'm approaching 40 right now that my workouts always would look like that. I just, I have no desire to train that way. It's just, it's, it's a lot. And then it's a lot for a guy who likes fitness. I love fitness. I love the, I love to challenge myself. I love training. And I know how much that's just a lot to try and get up and train that way all the time. And so if it's that way for me, I know it's that way for many of my clients that we're trying to lose 100 pounds or just want to feel good. And so this, this whole craze around CrossFit, I mean, we predicted it four or five years ago to watch it start to die. And we've been watching it die off for the last two years. You don't hear nowhere near what you used to hear about it. They said current thoughts. I mean, I honestly, I don't even know what that community looks like anymore. I know there was a big shift towards like elderly community and like kind of changing and restructuring a lot of the programming to be more health conscious. And like, it's interesting to see what's happening. The truth is it's getting a lot better. It's getting a lot better. So I have less problems with, but the reality that why it's getting a lot better because it's getting more like real training. Yeah. So it's moving away. So it's not really CrossFit anymore. Trying to appeal to like actual average people. Because the arguments I get into with people about this after, because of course this will piss a bunch of people off that want to fucking stir shit up with us. So bring it. Okay. The conversation I always get is, Oh, well at my box, we do this and we do that. Okay, motherfucker. That's training. Yeah. Okay. That's no longer CrossFit anymore. You're not under the umbrella anymore. Right. And that's what's happening. The reason why it's still surviving is because they've had to pivot away from what it started. I mean, it started off with a clown throwing up. That was where we were trying to get everybody to push like that. That's ridiculous. On dialysis. And it's staying around because it has changed and more so much, but then it's just starting to look more and more like real personal training. So it's like, it's not really CrossFit anymore. So if you are here to argue with me that it's great or your box that you trained, well, you probably have a good trainer that works there and realizes him or herself. They're doing functional training. Yeah. And they're trying to help you. I get it. I get it. Agreed. Agreed. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio. So you can come find us on YouTube if you want. Mind Pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. You can find me at Mind Pump Salon, Adam at Mind Pump, Adam. I'm working inward, first of all, like I'm thinking of all the things that I haven't been addressing. I'm not worried about the strength training, the aesthetics. It's not that at all. And I'm already kind of thinking about, when I come out of this, the things that I'll need to start to do right away. Like how will I reintroduce calories? How will I know how much should I reintroduce? I'm already thinking-