 Some people who work on stuff, I feel like there's this thing of like, everything should be beautifully made and lasts forever. And yes, but actually, I don't think that every object you own, you have to keep forever and commit to for the rest of your life. And you have to live in like a museum that looks like architectural digest and everything costs, you know, no, actually, some things move into your life and move out of them. The key is that if they move into your life and into your life and into a landfill, that's the problem. You have to share them with other people and build that circularity in. But I feel like we need to have the part of a healthy relationship is, as you said, an attachment and appreciation of the things around us on the one hand, objects that are well made that can last a long time, and an understanding that there can be a flow of objects through our homes and through our lives and back out into somebody else's home and life, and that that's part of it too.