 he was sitting in jail and He was looking at 15 years in prison and the mom hired me and I went to see him and he looked at me goes Mr. Hayes, and I'm so glad you're here Okay, why is that he goes? I know you're gonna make this all go away And I knew nothing about I knew nothing about the case other than he was accused of killing a woman He's accused of being under the influence of alcohol or controlled substances And that he was in jail and the judge that we had there was a sign of the case Who is a friend of mine and was a friend then but notoriously in Pinellas County? Was the most difficult judge not in the in the way that to deal with not difficult personality wise because his great person I wonderful person like severe punishment. Why yes, yeah very strict. He was if he believed In his mind that your client was guilty He was going to make sure within the confines of law within this boundaries in his discretion That he was gonna see to it that that client got the punishment they deserved