 But when they became professionals, they stopped being personal friends. Yeah, yeah. And it became a business. They became business partners. New additions. Same thing. Business partners. And what happened is, you have to separate that. You can't be, oh, that's my best friend no more. You're a business entity. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. I'm dedicated to my hot bed game, and I'm playing it. But how hard is it to keep a group together? Because when you have a, because you've seen groups come up over the years and they don't last you. You rarely find a group that lasts. Well, boys to men. Rarely. But I'm gonna tell you, let me tell you though. ABC. But I'm gonna be honest with you. VVD. One thing that boys to men, they taught me when I met them, and I hung around them. When they told me this, you know what made them successful? They were friends in school. But when they became professionals, they stopped being personal friends. Yeah, yeah. And it became a business. They became business partners. New additions. Same thing. Business partners. You have to separate that. You can't be, oh, that's my best friend no more. You're a business entity. And they looked at it like that. And that's how they've been able to survive. Because they don't, they're not like, because what happens is that if you don't do that, your emotions get involved. But when they come in, you got a platinum album and you start growing and egos change too. Gold. And then your members start tripping. It's like, where am I money at? It's a whole bunch going on. And it's not just that. It's also like with my group, like I started being asked to come fly places. And can you do some backgrounds? But you know, but sign this NDA so they don't know it's you. But we need your voice. We need to hear that. We need it. They try to separate you because they have your voice. And when it happens, when your boys find out, like I'm on that Jason's Lyric soundtrack. You're on the Jason Lyric soundtrack. Ain't no love in the heart of the city. A child is born through pain and sin. That's me. You go hard, boy, like that. But what happened is I was told, but see, this is what happened. That sound good. Ham was like, well, I'm going to have you go solo. He was going to have me and Ejio go solo. And I was like, well, no, I don't think that's the right time because when you form a group, I was like, no, we need to be together for a couple of years and establish that because and how my me being on that soundtrack happened, I was asked to do it. I was actually to do, if you think you're lonely now because KC had opted out of it. And what happened is I went in the studio to record if you think you're lonely now. And I think I was doing a good job that the engineer was like, man, you banging on this. But then I think KC must have heard I was in the studio and they said, no offense dudes, but we're going to do this. We're not going to have you do that song, but we want you to write a song for, and this is what we want you to use. So they gave me the elements of Ain't No Love. And they said, we want you to write. And so they showed me the copy of the movie and everything. And so I wrote to it. And then the whole nine got with me and me and JB from DRS. And I told him, I said, I don't want to make it a solo song because I knew my boys at the time we started fighting. And so I wanted us to, you know, come together. So I said, we're going to do this as DRS together. It's not going to be a Lamar Deuce Lubin project. It'll be a DRS project. And that's what happened because at the time, EJ was like, I ain't singing no more because he was getting mad about the money part. So I actually had to trick him. So when you hear it, he's in the beginning of the ending of the song. I actually tricked him and told him, hey, come on, because he moved to Sacramento and I was still in the bay and we were recording. I said, hey, I was like, EJ, come on down real quick. Let's kick it. And I took him to the studio and we played the track and we was like, don't you think? I said, he'd be so tired if you did this on this song. He got in there and he's saying, and he was like, oh dude, she talked me into it. So he did it. What did he do? He sang the ending part of In the Love. And so we put that on Jason's lyric soundtrack. And then, you know, we were part of that you will know song. Your dreams ain't easy. Just stick by your plan. Go from boys to men. So we did that. And so I was thinking, oh, we were about to, because there was only three of us left. And I just knew. And then, you know, my boy, JB got caught up and went to prison. I went to jail and he got a charge. And kind of, you know what I'm saying? When your boy goes away, it kind of. Put him down like everybody else. And then you don't have the money. We used to parallel y'all with boys and men. Like, y'all came out during the same look. The era. No, they were before us. They were before you, but still, y'all was a group. Yeah, we were a group. But they were looking at us like, because what happened is that when our album came out, we had some songs. Like I did this song called Scoundrels Get Lonely Too. We had some songs like Niggah With a Badge, stuff like that. Chris really wanted it to be like, oh, it's going to be scandalous and people are going to come. But it kind of backfired on us because they were like, y'all gangsters and y'all singing about Niggah With a Badge, you know what I'm saying? And then we tried to do Doomy Baby over Princess Doomy, but yeah, we did that. Yeah, I'm not proud of that. Y'all didn't try to go high, bitch. No, just here we, you know, it's kind of corny. It's really different. Don't go back, just here we are. Oh, y'all just got to change it. Don't go back, just here we are. Don't go back, I got you. Here we are in this little room. Nanny Jettadown. Who came out with you? You won't meet. With Ian? And the funny boy, I got ten years. So when we did the outreach, we were at the Sahara in Vegas. Okay. And so I'm walking around and people are like, you know, I ain't going to lie, I'm not bragging on myself, but people start calling me the voice. Yeah. They start saying, man, you're the man with the voice. Yeah. And they start saying, you look, you look, you know, and we have an iconic picture, which is kind of funny where I'm in the middle. I don't know if you've ever seen the poster. And there's the guy who took it. He told me the reason. This is so funny. This is how groups do. He said, Duce, I want this to be the picture because you are like that. You're like the Titty Pentegrounds of the group to me. And he said, I think you're going to break out one day. He said, so I'm going to suggest that you pick this picture. But the picture, the other, there's two pictures. He goes, trust me, your boys don't like you. He says, if you pick this picture, they're all going to pick this up picture. So I said, okay, I'll try it. So I went and picked this picture. And my boys are like, we don't like it. We want this one. And then once it came out, they was like, oh, this nigga in the middle. They didn't even get it. In that psychology. Because, you know, but that's what happens in group. And then what happens is, is like, when you start getting a star magazine, the magazines start coming, then they start asking, oh, we want this member to talk. So I would get asked sometimes to talk, because they want to talk to me and say, hey, who's your, who you like? Who, who, you know, who, like, who are your influences? Man, jealousy is something else. That's creating gaps. Oh, man. Especially in groups. Oh, man.