 Welcome to the show. It's a Tuesday. It's plus more than plus TV Africa. And when discussing the Super Eagles and what Nigerians expect from the coach that the NFF initially want to discuss it extensively and we'll laugh over it. I can assure you I will. I've got an ex-International Super Eagles player on the show today. His name is Sam Sojing. Welcome on the show. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Now I've got Victor, really, my partner on the show today. Victor got free. I've got a V6 column and we'll be asking you the questions together. But the first question would be what kind of let's start with Sam. Let's, in your opinion, assess the Super Eagles so far. So far so good or so far so bad? No, I would say we are lowest. I think there's room for improvement. And we just have to stay positive and go again. Sam, can I hear you? Okay, I can hear you now. Okay, go on. Yeah, I can say it's not been good. We didn't qualify for the World Cup. But we are lowest at the moment. And I think we just have to be positive and just go for, you know, go again. Okay, Sam, I'll call back to you now. Now, Victor, what he's saying is that Nigeria's Super Eagles are the lowest as we speak. Well, it's not far from the truth. However, I still feel like, I mean, what has let us down is just administration. We are actually, if you look at this current generation of players and look at the landscape of African football, you'll be scratching your head and wondering why this team is not dominant in African football. Exactly. Now, Sam, what Victor is saying now is that you're asking yourself, there's so much talent in that squad and you're scratching your head. Why are we not doing well? I'll tell you, I think Victor said it before, you know, when it comes to the administrative side of things, we're not doing okay. But I'll bring a point out for you. I think as Nigerians, as the NFF, you know, I'll call his name, you know, Amadjou, and his crew, I think, and Victor will accept this. I think we're so caught into this whole Premier League thing. We're so obsessed with the Premier League. The best players don't play in the Premier League. The best African players don't play in the Premier League. And because of that, the national team is suffering from that. And I'm English, so I'm not talking against the Premier League. I'm just saying, as Nigerians, we're so obsessed and it affects our national team. And yes, we've got good players, but I don't think we've got the best African players playing for Nigeria. Now, Sam, you are the essay to the Justice State Government in sports. Amadjou Pinnick was involved somehow around the line in that period. What has gone wrong? Can't you guys, can't anybody speak to him? Is he just the Lord of the Rings? You know, how does he do that? Oh, no, no, he's the man of himself. I'm not close to him, so I'm sure he has advices. But from outside, you can tell that he's his own man. He's hard to speak to. But at the same time, we need better for Nigeria. It's not about Amadjou. We're not on your shoulders to talk about him. We're on your shoulders to talk about the national team. We need better. We definitely need better. Okay, now, this is the question I was going to ask you all day. What kind of coach do you expect the NFF to employ? It's not really about the kind of coach. Who is really employing the coach? That should be the question. We should have professionals who know what Nigeria needs, the philosophy of the coach that we need. But if you ask me, I think we need a long-term kind of plan. And definitely there's no way you can go if your local league is not doing well. If your local league is not doing well, it's very hard for you to succeed in the international level. We have to get a coach that knows that he has to come to Nigeria and see the local league improving. And that way, whoever we invite to play for the national team has a chance because we need the local league to do well. Okay, now, I'll come back to you, Sam. Now, Victor, he says the local league must do well. But I remember Clemens Westerhoff. Clemens Westerhoff took players from the local league, picked them out, if you need a George, Ajax, Kanoak or Ajax, or Kocha, Ajax, Frankfurt, and then he built a Galactic House for the Super Eagles. And the 94s squad can conveniently be said to be the best ever. Yes, we can agree with that sentiment, but also to agree with Sam's point. Look at all the errors of the Super Eagles when we were very great. We'll go with 1980. Shekou and Degbami, Mudilawa and the rest of them, they all played in the local league. He comes in the 90s, 94. Kocha didn't, wasn't born in Germany and then started to play for Nigeria. He started out in the Nigerian local league, same with Amokachi, same with Rashidi Ekeni, same with Kanoak, same with all that golden generation that you just mentioned. Now, our latest great moment, which was the one-off victory in 2013 in the Nation's Cup in South Africa under the late great Stephen Keshe, we had a blend of local and international players. In fact, if you look at the spine of that team, you could clearly see that team was beating Nigeria. In Yama, formerly with Eimbab back in his earlier years, you had Obabuna, you had Mba. So you can see the spine of that team all the way to the attack. And that was the reason why we won the Nation's Cup. Now, I have nothing against ex-amino players who have been born maybe in the UK or in Europe, wanting to switch allegiances to play for Nigeria. I have no issues with that. But the reality of the matter is that what we have seen so far, against Ghana, on paper, on paper, we should be beating Ghana black and green. Like every day. In fact, we should beat them like their nickname. Yeah, like every day. We should beat them black, like the black stars. Beat them, they'll be white. But when we finish beating them, they will become the black stars again. But the Ghanaians played, their goalkeeper was from this place in the third division or so in England. Not even in the championships. Okay, Sam, I'll come to you on that one. Victor agrees with you and says, okay, yes, the structure is bad in Nigeria. My point is, we are actually fielding players from better structures. Players who grow up abroad or players who actually play abroad. Should that not be a plus for us? So, can I say again? I'm saying that Victor agrees with you and says, yes, the structure is bad in Nigeria. But now we field players who actually play their trades abroad. Who live abroad, train with better structures. Should that be an advantage to the Super Eagles? Yeah, but the only one side to it as well is that the local league has gone really backwards. Like what Victor is saying, I agree as well that the players should be there. But I've worked in Nigeria for a couple of years now. I was born in London. I decided to play for Nigeria. But the main thing now, the distance of the foreign-based players and the local players has gone really, really far. So far that you cannot compare. So I understand where the coach might not see any player at the moment to play for the national team. But at the same time, that's why we have to come back home and work hard. Get people that want to work and get this local league to the standard where they can compete with the foreign-based players. But to be honest with you, the distance with the local players and the foreign players are very far apart. Before I let you go, Sam, let me put a little humor into it, into all of this. Now, the coach, the Ivorian coach, said that when they played in Nigeria under Stephen Keshe, the last person he thought would give him problems in match was Sondimba. And it was the one that scored the second goal. They actually ended. They could have won chances and run. And basically, after Westerhoff, the coach who has actually hit the limits for me has been Stephen Keshe. Gennot Rohr for me has done nothing. Even Ivorian has done quite a bit more than Gennot Rohr. Now, quickly before I let you go, what would you advise? A home-based coach who knows Nigerian content, how would work, and how the league works, and how you can work around it and get players from there? Or a foreign coach again? And if a foreign coach, yes, of what quality are we looking for? Sam, can you hear me? Yeah, let's go. Okay, okay, we're back to the studio now. But for some reason, I'm sure it's network problems. But I wanted to know what quality of coach Sam would expect us to have, you know? But I can't speak for Sam, but I can speak for myself. And I'll tell you this, I don't even think right now the issue of the Super Ugoes is about coaching, to be honest with you, because the problems are still there. The same players will still be invited. We're still going to have the season as if a new coach comes now and then every other player that's played for the Super Ugoes in the last three months or even the last one or two years will just go out the window. We'll still have the same team, literally, more or less. But like we said, we need to work on the infrastructure and the administration of the league. But let's talk about expectations of coaches. If we want to go through the following routes, which top-level tacticians will really have time to stay in Nigeria to give attention to our players, not forgetting that sometimes they are owing this coach's money, especially we've been at role with you, it's still been owed some areas. Then also the politics that goes behind of selecting players to play for, well, this guy must play or that guy must play or this is my player. And I just have to tell you, this is my player, he must play at least for the Super Ugoes or something like that. So with all those backdoor politics, poor infrastructure and administration, which coach with integrity will want to really come to Nigeria? I mean, I saw this shortlist and I was laughing at like Lauren Blanc, a World Cup winner. Lauren Blanc? Yes. Come on. These coaches would rather, if they have to come to Africa, maybe because the money leers them to Africa, they'd rather go to South Africa. You know, we joked about you see, it's a better structure there. They'd rather go to Egypt, more Salah. You'd rather go to Senegal, Sadio Mane. We don't have those kind of players. So here's how I say it now. For me, as much as people criticize, they go, I've gone for a knock on the final for the World Cup, I'll see, strongly believe that I should still be there now. They should hear me out for a minute because everybody will say, what is he talking about? The coach of Senegal was given five years to give Senegal their first ever trophy. Bruno Mezzo was their coach in 2002, with all the greatness that they had. In fact, they had a better team in my opinion in 2002 than right now. That team was with superstars, Diof, Fadiga. You know, the list is endless. Henry Kamara, they had some amazing players. They said Diof. But he won the Nation's Cup for them in Cameroon just a few months ago. But he had time. He had five years to get that stuff. So it's a long-term project. So if you have a Nigerian coach, in my opinion, have a Nigerian coach, we have the way we do our things in Nigeria. And we know. And Nigerians know. We know. They don't know. We have a way to how we do things. And you have an ex-international who has also been there, who has worked with all these, you know, NFF officials, maybe in the 90s as well, when you were also younger men. So they know how we do things. But as well, now work with the team and have a plan. England reaching the semi-finals of the World Cup and the finals of the Euros, that was no fluke. Yes, we might diss them and say, oh, they have such a massive media hype around their teams. But England planned these things. They actually planned it. I thought they had a very dismal World Cup in 2014. They said, OK, what is the long-term goal? They won the under-20 World Cup. Won the under-17 World Cup. People don't remember this. England did that back to back. She's always on my back. Really. Don't forget Villarreal. Villarreal and Liverpool. Take a little of that today. And Liverpool have only got half the job done as far as Jürgen Klopp is concerned. Before I go on the show, thank you very much, Sam Soje, ex-Super Egos International for joining us today. Thank you very much. OK, and of course that was Sam Soje. He joined us on the show today. We discussed what we expect from Super Egos and the coaches we are waiting to see. Thank you very much, V6. Victor Gottfried. Always a pleasure to be here. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Lawal. He's behind the screen. You can't see him, but he makes you see us. Thank you very much, Francis Indem. I call him François. I call him, well, Indem. He corrects me. This is Indem. OK, Shaye is always my problem. And I'll deal with that after the show. Thank you very much, Shedrack. Call him Sheddy in the powerhouse downstairs. Thank you very much, Ossas. He produced the show today, of course, under the tutelage of Paul George, PG. I call him President General. General's same time tomorrow, same station, plus sports and plus TV Africa. I thought you were accepting an award. You were thanking everybody. That's what I do now. That's what I do now. My name is Wally Scott. Like, I always advise you at the end of every show, if not for anything, at least for your heart. Do some sport. I leave you with Andy Moray. He took out Dominic Thiem in the Madrid Open.