 We're glad to have you back. It's still the run-up here. We've been having interesting conversations and just talking among ourselves and Presidential candidates running away from debates Agriculture neglects actually the background when it should be the number one a sport Provider situ a sport foreign exchange earner and all that we've been talking with ourselves and News has made headlines and all that we promised that when we come back. We're going to continue with what we were saying before now Was it on the presidential and the new naira notes new naira notes, so What is your take? My high Okay, I don't see any much difference I don't know and that's that has been what has been trending on Twitter, you know How that's just like what what exactly did we change? I think it wasn't I think for the people that you know Initiated this change. I think it wasn't about the design and you know the look and you know all the aesthetics No, I think it was more about, you know Most of the reasons that they gave one of which bio had already mentioned had that they want to bring back most of these monies Which are you know outside the banking system to bring them home? And I think they've achieved if I'm not exaggerating at least 70% of that because within the first few Weeks of this announcement few for first few days of this announcement They were able to get some billions and that's a whole lot of money. So for the wood are complaining that You just change the color whatever the words, you know, they use on Twitter and on the street is it's beyond the aesthetics It's beyond the looks. It's more about, you know, national development. It's more about the economic Perspectives so so long as the value didn't didn't drop and And they're achieving what the one tended to achieve as we applaud the third the central bank for Innovating this as we applaud the federal government for trying to do this to achieve what they achieve There's another trend that is making me so sad I don't know whether bio you are also feeling the same way I'm feeling the fact that because of these change of narrow notes There are some people who have gone to their wherever they kept this money and exhumed them Money in millions and billions that are now discovered to have been destroyed Like the moist show has destroyed the money the other day. I watched a video of a truck load of 1000 narrow notes and They were all bad and I felt so pained Like like Why do these people even think yeah, this is money you can You can build houses for everybody in your in your in your village You can send everybody to school you can do a lot of things and at the end of the day All we take and we leave is our name. Why don't people think about About posterity, why don't people think about legacies a man who doesn't think about legacy It's the most dangerous man if you ask me because he doesn't care if I die. I don't go. I don't go It's a it is what it is. It's so wrong, but that is me. I don't know for them Maybe they they think differently Does it pain you the way it pains me bio? Definitely We need a complete reorientation and you know when we talk about values You know you and I know because we put you we've always discussed this you know off When we are not lying we discuss the states and I personally there is strong way that The collapse of our value system is the biggest problem we have Yes, we have challenges with leadership But it is the collapse of our value system because when you don't have a good value system Even when a good leader emerges You will frustrate that that that would be that because you're because you will not want to accept To do things the right way You know so why would people keep such you know stupendous amount of money in their homes You know especially given the benefits you mentioned the things they can do with it You see but also a light to that is what I mentioned earlier how we treat the Naira People trample on the Naira at parties People use the Naira and stone. Okay. They want to give the celebrant some money Why don't you just put it in an envelope and give to the celebrant? They stoned the celebrant with the money. They throw the money into the air Do you know this honestly if anybody in from another client looks at us as the people They are really going to be stoned in trying to exactly articulate our mindset So these are things that we need to change and the incoming leadership 2023 they need to start thinking of how to reorientate our values And how to make sure that we are put at the work also to make sure the Naira improves its value You know and that we treat the currency with respect It's not it's funny, but it's not actually it is actually becoming a trend if you go to America's UK They don't have what they call Nigerian parties. They just throw it and it's an event So they can throw money in the air somehow machines that make the money fly Make it fly in the air. It's not it's actually Unfortunate that you know, that is one of the things that we are known for being disrespectful to such Things as our night as our money notes. It's not nice actually and just like bio said I want to agree with him It does a lot of orientation that needs to be done part of which is why are you scared of the banks? Why do you have money stuck in your homes in your warehouses and in your wherever and then the money gets destroyed? There are some people who genuinely Cannot go to the banks because maybe where they stay Because maybe they will always need someone to guide them when they go to the bank and they don't want that They they put it in their pillow and there is but we are more worried about these people who Ordinaryly should be rich people and then you're still storing money that you don't need and then there are people languishing in abject poverty Where you come from around you even among your boys the people they call boys now in the political scene and everywhere boys So you take what we call Ghana must go you load money that you don't need put it in somewhere that Until it gets bad. You don't have any need for it I think it's poverty mentality, you know one thing I haven't really come to understand about this narrow redesign is how this whole Whatever happened to the narrow is supposed to boost the narrow and increase the value I mean we understand how we're trying to gather our monies that are outside the banking system Achieved almost hundred percent. How is this supposed to help our narrow? You know thrive. How is it supposed to give us bragging rights in the forex market? Well, I think I'm not an expert. So it might be very wrong. Don't tell you wrong But you see it's like having an accurate sensors right now the central bank does not even know how much is out there It's mostly like an estimation. Okay, but if this money comes back, it's like knowing the correct data and you can plan Well, that's what I can say. I might be so wrong totally wrong I think you're right I'm not an economist either But but I could add to that you know because the very good question which has asked The fact also that when you capture money outside of the banking system, you also now, you know You also and give the banks, you know the latitude to have more money to loan out for businesses Okay, because the banks are not just going to keep the money if you put your money in the bank The bank has to put the money to use, you know, and they may be pay you some reasonable interest rate and things like that But but the long-term shot of it is that you increase the amount of money that the bank is liable to loan out People who need it for investment who can therefore also increase employment and then you have the multiply effect of that will change Okay, let's move on to another thing because we cannot finish this conversation We'll keep talking about it and get into no more so that we too can help to tell the people who ask us questions About their real need for all those things that happen in Nigeria, okay But there is not another worrisome thing the National Association of Resident Doctors are now saying it is a 100 or 10,000 patients to one Nigerian doctor because right now Over 4,000 of their members are still ready to what we now call jackback to get out of the country Because of whatever reason, but there's no way you can have it better in Nigeria and you decide to go somewhere else So it's worrisome. How can 10,000 people rely on one doctor? It's it's devastating See I'm taking my time Because I cannot I cannot imagine it You go take for a sake for example Legos University teaching hospital Have you seen how big that place is and they have surgeon patients day in day out I'm just imagining 10,000 of these people to one doctor spread across Nigeria Different parts of the country. It's it's not and you know That also goes to speak for how dilapidated You know, the sector is if from the buildings to even the Manpower human resources and all that people are complaining this video showed up on the internet I think I spoke about it on Friday about how that patients are on the Walking halls Yeah on the floor. It's crazy. We don't even have enough Beds to hold these people no beds. No space nothing and then there is this crazy trend That if you go to some of these villages, they are Hospitals, I'm quoting that hospitals that have opened recently. They just in Lagos state They just caught one of the fake doctors only God knows how many surgeries he has done As a fake doctor only God knows how many prescriptions He has made only God knows How many people have died? through Miss diagnosis or wrong prescription or wrong surgery or something like that That is in Lagos. What if you go into villages? Yes, so many people call in on programs You know, I've heard people calling on programs radio programs TV programs And they are saying we have these buildings that were donated to us by one of our illustrious sons or illustrious daughters Or maybe the United Nations came to our village and they built a hospital, but we don't have doctors We don't have nurses nothing is happening in that place. It's not even open Yeah, so Villagers tend to if you if you are a very a very good nurse They call you doctor in Nigeria. You're a pharmacist You know, there are so many things to talk about yeah, what happened to the place of volunteering I don't even Know how I'm going to put this But I don't know that there were times in the past when people graduate from school And they just want to volunteer until something happens now They'll volunteer for six months and then uses their Voluntary experience and go to another country You know, I think that the problems we are having Um Of course economic problems problems of insecurity Other socioeconomic challenges are inducing people to consider Alternatives, you know to get out of the country now. So again, like I would say we are heading to elections We need to be asking those who are aspiring. They shouldn't avoid debates You should tell us how they want to deal with these issues the second thing is that We need to recognize that given the way the world has evolved and given the way Talents are acquired because now they don't talk about human resources. They talk about talent acquisition Most organizations most governments from around the world look for the best talent Wherever they can find it and they go for it. So our our If you like our human resources Will be increasingly the targets of other countries who are not producing as much Or do not have potentially the same manpower capacity as we have. This is just the reality we need to face So if you want if you want the best doctor, you go for it If you want the best engineer, you go for it Now, how do we keep our own in the face of this challenge? This should be the questions that Those who want to rule those want to aspire to power or aspiring to power These are the things they should be addressing and this is why debate is absolutely important We want to know how they want to maintain a balance and make sure we don't lose too many We are not going to stop people from living the country. We need to face that and reality But we can mitigate the exodus what we are having now is threatening because it's an exodus and we need to mitigate that Okay, as we're making the conversation about all these issues If you're watching us, I'm sure a lot of people that we are talking to in directly here are watching us If you're aspiring to rule us or to serve us or you know, someone who is doing that We need to have that discussion come to us plus tv Africa is open to you come to us and tell us What you intend to do for Nigeria because we are all Going to hold you accountable If you if you get there if at all you will get there because in fact at this point We should be saying you don't talk to us. We don't vote for you That's that's how it's going to be even when they are burning INEC houses. They just burned one in In a boy state and that's three in a space of like one month Which is not good, but whether houses or offices are burnt or not election 2023 must happen And god willing will make a good choice. So this is where we draw the curtain on today's edition of the run-up Thank you so much for everyone who is tuned in at run-up will return But it will be tomorrow 11 a.m. Until then my name is Uche Chuku Onado, and I am Yamgul Agadje