 Hey, Seiko. How's it going? No good, man. How you doing? Pretty good, pretty good. Give me just one moment. We'll walk outside. We're at the middle of a call center right now. Okay, no problem. Sorry about that. How's it going? No, no. Go good, man. You were saying that you were able to talk, so I didn't know what would be a good time for you. But, you know, like I said, I'm off on weekends. So I just, you know, just want to reach out to you, and, you know, and like I said last night, you know, just to avail myself, man, to anybody that needs help, and, you know, wanting to, you know, seek any type of assistance as far as trying to get out of ABC or any other type of church that has a, you know, a manipulative stronghold on them. So, you know, that's why I gave you my number, man. I didn't want to press you or anything like that, but at least I wanted to offer the opportunity to avail myself when you were, you know, willing to talk, so. Break, because I want to make sure that I get the substance of your, you know... What made you, I guess, did you watch any of the videos that I put up or something? I mean, how did you even hear about me? Give me any examples. I'm not familiar with that, so I mean, if you can recall any examples of inconsistencies that you mentioned. Man, it should have. That's exactly what it is. You know that for a fact. My heart is breaking with you, dude. My heart is breaking with you, bro. So, if you break down, I'm almost right there, right there with you, dude, because your story, bro, is just as disappointing and heartbreaking as others that I've heard, man. So, you're okay here, man. You're okay. You're all right. Yeah. I know he was in communication with the church. He's the member of the church. Yes, he is. Because he's a pimp. Because he's a pimp, bro. Yeah. I know there's groups of women there and they're all over there. Jesus. No, you don't. No, you don't, bro. I do my little research and study and it's like that on Saturday, so I'm good. I'm good. Post between him and the captain of the pic. I'm on his IG right now. I need you to run me that, bro. I just want to see what comment was made by Bryce and, you know, the one with the picture with Calvin Kaepernick and all that. I see it. I see it. I see it. Okay. It was dated November 25th. So, good lord. So, yeah, I'm just like, something to that effect or something. Wow. Okay. So, what does George call Kaepernick? I remember saying he's a muslim. He called him a muslim. Let's do this real quick. Let's do this because I know you got stories for days on that and that's cool. My question to you though, deciding to leave and is your wife on board with that decision? To stand now while I'm coming for this dude's neck, do you understand why I am so aggressive and I'm so, I guess you could say, so hell-bent, bro, and I'm talking about taking him down ultimately from a ministerial standpoint. Not, not, but from a ministerial, standpoint. And if you need this, and if you need the scriptures, I can provide them to you so you can provide to your wife because, made you hit me up then because last night, you know, yesterday I talked to you and you say, well, you know, you're not really sure yet. And I said, well, man, cool. I said, but here's my number in case you're doing then, then this morning when I got up this morning from my early riser, my military, you know, from military camp, I saw your, I saw your message, you know, but I was, man, when you hit me up at 1030, I was, I was already knocked out, bro. And I woke up this morning, I saw it. I said, wow. I said, okay, lord, you know, and I didn't, and I didn't, and you being, and then you being a member almost out the door, maybe see, I said, okay, lord, you know, then maybe, you know, I know God is, I know God is bringing people out of there. That much I do know, and that much I do know. Law now has come out because of the videos and it has nothing to do with me though, you know what I'm saying? Nothing to do with me. I'm just a tool, just like everybody else is, but I want to be the most faithful tool in the master's hands as possible. Is to rescue and help those come out of that hell hole and to be, and to be spiritually liberated and set free from the stronghold, manipulation, intimidation, bullying, gaslighting, and all the host of other, you know, demonic things that this man has taught and is doing under the guise of truth. Because if you're not, if you don't know your body, you are, you are, you are prey. You are, you are a prey for G. Craig Lewis and he thrives off of ignorance. He thrives off of gullibility. He thrives off of weakness. Separated from his family now and his family together. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I just wanted to know. Right, right, right. When I went to visit, when I went to visit that church, actually Fred Price Jr. and I are good friends. You talking about the war video, you talking about this stuff that you're talking about now. What happened? So this is what I did. And I'm about two and a half months into this thing now. So let me, let me, let me just, let me explain to you real quick what set it off. What set it off was, was, was, was Craig's attack on Kanye. Okay. That was the straw that broke the cameras back for me. I've always had differences with, with Craig's teaching. But what I did was I tried to, I tried to, I guess you can say, pick my battles until, until I say, you know what, this is what I'm going to plant my flag on. I'm dying on this hill, you know what I'm saying? Because I was friends with T-Time off it before he decided to leave. And other people, other people had left because of Craig. Craig is a bully. And he thought he was going to try to punk and bully T-Time. And T-Time ain't that dude. So T-Time said, I'm out. Simple, simple, simple as that. Simple, simple as that. It was simple as that, man. It was nothing. I mean, he, he, that, like, like, like, like J. Bright is trying to be tossed up. You know what I'm saying? Meek is a, is a, is G. Craig's cousin. He screwed over him. And that's his family. You know what I'm saying? He screwed over your own family. They're a person that ain't your family. Ain't your blood. They don't have, they don't have a Stubbops chance in hell to, to, to, to, to deal with you. You know what I'm saying? So what, what caused the, what caused this whole campaign, if you will, against G. Craig, this whole mute, G. Craig Lewis, you know, hashtag I've been putting out is because of how, how hypocritical and how contradictory G. Craig Lewis has been. And it's been, it's been, he's been consistently inconsistent for years. And people have, yeah. Yeah. So, so people to the effect to where it is now. And again, this has nothing to do with me. This is just God's sovereignty and allowing this now to come to full fruition. You know what I'm saying? So, so I'm like, you don't see Jesus like that. You know what I'm saying? You don't see Jesus like that. You don't see the apostles like that. Paul himself said, man, we've made ourselves, not only, we didn't just open up our hearts to you. We opened up our very lives to you. He told it to us. That's the only church because you've been very precious to us. So Jesus, although Jesus had the multitudes, he had, you know, the disciples and then he had to enter three. He did not have this attitude where people, he could not be approached. You follow what I'm saying? He didn't have this attitude where he could not, he could not have had questions asked the answer to him. So you, if you want to look at a teacher, that's the master teacher. Craig Wack jokes as his base for preaching. I'm like, bro, you are not an expository. You do not know how to exit the scriptures and everything you say for the most part, if it's not fact checked, it's garbage. It's trash. And so, and so when you challenge him on that kind of stuff, what happens is when you make a public statement about Craig, it's one thing when he says that everybody's cool with it. But the nanosecond, you say something about him publicly, his goons come out. Like him, like, like, like, like, pull out this man, J. Brian. I've been doing that dude for about five, six years, right? Maybe a little bit longer. I've checked him about stuff. You see what I'm saying? So when he tried to come at me publicly, I had to send that dude. I had to shred a clown him. I'm like, bro, we about to play this game, bro. You know what you know what it is. You know what time it is with me. So I had put up a post about, I said, I don't care if he passes. G Craig, Lewis, and John McArthur. None of you are a bubber buke. None of you. I'm like, that's trying to defend his little funky pass like a parrot. And I called myself, and so he called me a clown and a false prophet. I said, I said, J. Brian. I said, you know what this is, bro. I said, bro, you know what this is. I said, we can have a live conversation right now. I said, so you put this out there publicly? Let's get it. And you appear. So that's my point, dawg. So I had to drag this dude, bro. I had to drag. I was like, I like J. Brian. Don't play this game with me, dawg. And I'm on Facebook. I left it there publicly. So here's my philosophy. If you say something publicly and get butthurt when somebody responds to you publicly, that applies to J. Brian. That applies to any of you to DM you or anything else behind closed doors when you say stupid stuff publicly, yo. So that's how I am with people like him, right? Now, if I choose to, it's because I want to. Not because I have to. So J. Brian comes to me and says, I want to have a conversation offline. He mocked me. Now, I'm about to show people chapter 1 where the Bible says if a person is single, that they're trash, that they're whack, that they must be married. Have a sex with one man in church. And here's the thing. I, a YouTuber, dress just like a hoe. You want to call Beyonce a hoe? But your daughter dresses. Get out of my face, let it go. It sucks. Because people have given this information to me and it's public knowledge. I didn't care about G. Craig Lewis. You see what I'm saying? I didn't care about what was going on over there until I saw people being affected, being manipulated, being outed, being scared. Look, when you got people that are afraid to put up a post about what movie they're going to go see, but then you got G. Craig Lewis up here bragging about going to see X-Men, going to see The Avengers, which you got just as much. That's my point. Witchcraft, you talk about sorcery and some on steroids and you have no problem going to see that. You see what I'm saying? So, to G. Craig and I made it public, do you read that blog yet? I have the receipts to prove this stuff, right? All this stuff came from when I dropped, when I dropped the post and started dropping videos, people started sending me information. Talk to this person. Talk to that person. Contact this person. Contact that person. And that's what I did. And what I did was I kept notes, have documented conversations, just in case somebody gets amnesia and they say they didn't say this. You see what I'm saying? So, it's video evidence. Right? I'm not going to do that because that's like that bottom line. I'm going to address that on my next live. Just let you know that. I'm going to bring it from a biblical perspective on why I'm not going to produce any videos. I know about the people that he's had sex with. This is why people like Lois Burke, her husband, trying to call him and trying to come see me. And I'm like, let me say something, bro. You don't want to come over here with that? I'm concealed carry. That's my point. That's my point. So, I told him. And this was on a public site. Because a blog had ticked my blog because no matter what happened was, two weeks ago, I posted the blog and I warned Craig. I warned him. Publicly. I said, before I called a DEF CON, before I went DEF CON 1 with it, I said, now you better know what this is. And so then I put it out there, right? Within an hour, the blog was taken down because Craig and his people called and reported it. Further, I said, hey man, I took a PDF of it. I said, man, thank God. I said, you took a PDF of it? He said, yeah, I took a PDF of it, man. That screenshot, he's not going to let you have it. I said, man, send it to me. So, he sent it to me and he had another one here that you put out to Craig and all that and that's what I've done. So, if you don't step down, this is what I'm going to do. I want you gone, I want you gone. I don't give a crap about Jesus. You understand me? I hope he tosses and turns. I hope he loses weight. I hope he gets no sleep. You understand me? That's what I hope. I hope that the pain and the misery and the, many people listen, so many people that he has caused problems have come many people that he has caused problems have contacted me and their words to me are this, take words to me, take him down. The way she let us say man you know this this man is is is uh he's wicked and evil to the core that's how most cults start that's why he had to test and he had to test all things that Bible says whole fast that was just true so called pastor that matter has an issue with you asking a question is not a freaking pastor okay when I was passing a church tell people don't take my word for it be a barin and it'll work for yourself and if I say anything that's wrong bring it back to me and I'm making right and I've done that before I've said something in a sermon and a brother have come back to me said hey you're not he's not approachable it you know listen that the this the God says I'm gonna give you shepherds and Jeremiah 315 I'm gonna give you shepherds out there my own heart who will feed you with knowledge and understanding this person is a man of God by how he teaches leads fees and protects the flock that's how you know because if he does not do it the way that Jesus doesn't I'm not so much perfectly but even in his imperfections desire is to teach people the word of God I'm not sure if you ever read Acts 20 he meets with the with the with the elders and Ephesus this is his farewell address to the elders and Ephesus and he tells eat and I'm gonna read it this way this is what I think of having it I think about having it in you fuck this is addressed to the to the church of Ephesus and this is one of the texts that I that I had preached from years ago when I was past them and it says verse verse verse 17 and for my leaders he sent to Ephesus and called to him the elders not you know one of the things I start what I do bro when you when you when you believe and expository preaching and teaching do you see something you have to stop and break it down right you know saying it is second nature so I'm gonna try not to go too too long with this but and call to him the elders notice the word elders is in plural and ABC believe it is just say that they're not biblical elders but you you probably know these people not biblical elder but they are our biased yes man but yes man but yes man nonetheless because they hand-picked by Craig okay then I sit from God they hand-picked by Craig but the text of verse verse 18 he says and then he had came to them and said to them you know for yourselves for the first day that I set foot in Asia how I was with you the whole time notice verse 19 serving the Lord with all humility yes and with trials which came upon me through the plots of the Jews verse 20 how I did not shrink from declaring thing that was profitable and teaching you publicly and from house to house solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and and now behold bound in spirit I'm on my way to Jerusalem not knowing what will happen to me now what happened to me there except that there that the Holy Spirit solemnly testifies to me in every city saying that bonds and afflictions await me but I do not consider my life of any account as dear to myself in order that I may finish my course in a ministry which I have received from the Lord Jesus to testify solemnly to the gospel of the grace of God and you and now behold I mean now behold I know that all of you among whom I went about preaching in the kingdom preaching King will see my face no more therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all men in other words Paul is saying listen I'm giving I know what I'm saying to you is it with a clear conscience ain't anybody's blood on my hands because I taught you the word of God I'm teaching you the word of God now you know that so there's no reason for me to even question my my integrity but regarding this because I know what I have given you is comforting God verse 27 he says for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole council a whole purpose of God here's a question I ask everybody when I talk to them that they either have been members of ABC or members of ABC right now have Craig has G Craig Lewis has George ever five years as you remember there ever preach through an entire chapter or a book of the Bible a precept he's never taught you guys the word of God rightly interpreted