 What's up, everybody? Oh, that's wrong intro, isn't it? Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Enter the Ether, the podcast all about ethereal clash of souls. I'm your host, the man goose joining me as always is my friend and co-host jelly knees jelly. How you doing? I am great man goose. I'm really excited to talk about the items today because I've looked at them far too much. So At least I get to talk about it guys guys jelly made this spreadsheet That you could we talked about it last time you could input items jelly. Where can they find that? Uh, that'll be in the discord So if you go to the ethereal discord, which is linked in the description below Go to the item build section and then look at the pinned messages and you can download it from there Right on it. Is it on your discord at all eight two or no, it is not but it will be by the time this goes up So yes, it is on my discord. It's a lovely community and um Yeah, so last last time this week there wasn't really too many updates They just updated the website again to like make it work better Uh, but which is probably a good thing because we still haven't Really dove into everything that got updated with the website update And today we're going to dig into the items a little bit We're not going to go over each and every item because that would take us forever We each picked five items that we really like and we're going to talk about the overall uh state of the items as well, so uh Yeah, uh, well jelly. How's your week been? Did you enjoy the king's hunt? I loved king's hunt. Oh my god. I played so much of it. It's ridiculous I didn't get to play enough because they had it at weird times and I was always working During the I'm gonna tell you that was one of my feedback comments to them was like the times for na We're just odd that we everyone was at work for the most part. So it was hard to get a lot of people on I'll tell you guys something if you've been watching my channel for a while You know that I never claimed to be the greatest video game player ever I wasn't you know Maybe a little bit above average at paragon However Jelly goose is a real fucking thing and that applies to ethereal in that that we're probably going to be teaming up Anytime jelly and I team up in a game. We wreck shop. I don't know what it is I mean jelly is a much better player than I but for some reason You put the two of us together and the We're greater than the sum of our parts. We we we were kicking ass in king's hunt We kicked ass and predator kicks him ass and fault. We do we do well together. I don't know what it is It's just we're so in sync together doing the show man goose that no matter what nobody can stop us It's the communication So, all right, let's get it. Let's get into the items now. Let's get into the items And uh before we get into the items though, let's talk about this sheet that got sent to us Now this sheet. Oh, yeah Is a breakdown of what the items do I don't know of any other game that segregates The items and attributes this well And this is really nice because if you're looking at the sheet right now You can tell that it it shows you if you get a mark You're getting this if you get a staff you're getting these Attributes if you get a sword you're getting these attributes So, you know just when you open it up quickly open up the item shop, you know, hey, I need Some some freaking life steal you whatever looks like a scythe You click on that real quick and you jump right back into the action. So I think this is really well done Uh jelly, you want to talk about this a little bit? Yeah, absolutely. So basically the overarching theme is that each item type so they're split into types So books are all one type boots are all one type capes are all one type chest guards things like that They're all split into their own type Each type has one or two Stats that are core to that type So like mangu said the sights all have life steal across the board if you see a scythe It will have life steal of some kind the amounts vary So one could have 15 life steal and one could have 25 life steal But no matter what those items will have life steal or the bows each bow has a attack speed So you're guaranteed that if you find a bow your attack speed Which like you said, I think Helps players understand the shop much quicker than in other mobas because you can go in you just know Okay, bows are attack speed. I go into the shop. I click a bow. No matter what I just got a attack speed I got the stat I was looking for that's a great concept that I can't wait to see More of through this game and hopefully other games picking up that same kind of idea It helps too when you're when you're looking at the enemy teams item builds Like if you see that their adc is like some meanie asshole and you see nothing but sights in his In his build, you know that he's just got a crap ton of life steal and attack damage And you know that you maybe build an anti heal item to counter that guy And you can just tell that at a glance you don't have to look at each and every single item that he has You don't have to know them out of memory. You just know that that dude has a bunch of sights He's got a bunch of life steal that dude has a bunch of bows. He's got a bunch of attack speed You know what you're dealing with 100% And so yeah, this this chart that we were sent just goes over what each type is and what the one or two Corresponding stats are to that type So just a very very quick reference guide basically of what types equal what items right? And it's a it's a main attribute and a secondary attribute and it's again the same across So like I was saying with sights with the attack damage Your main attribute is the life steal your secondary attribute is attack damage and they all match up all sights will have that So yeah, really There are some items that will have like a third stat But from what we've seen so far the goal goes up Exponentially with that third stat and but the third stat is not consistent across the board So you could have a bow that has Let's go back to the sites So you could have a site that has the life steal and the physical power But also gains attack speed as a third stat or something like that More of a bonus than it is a corresponding stat to the item type Right, which I think is a really cool way to do it. You're still your main two attributes are going to be whatever Is listed right here? Yep, really cool stuff. I really like this. I really like this a lot All right, so you want to go get in to the items that we picked Absolutely All right, this was really hard for me to pick five items like I thought I was going to be able to be like Oh, yeah, five items no problem and live five and then I sat down to look at it and I was like, uh No, it's not that easy. Like I really like a lot of these items like I don't know if how original they they are for paragon. They're extremely original Like I didn't see a lot of this stuff in paragon However, I don't play a lot of smite or legal legends So they might be that you know You can only come up with so many freaking ideas and there's nothing wrong with taking good ideas from other games And importing into your game So I don't know if some of these exist In other and like legal legends or smite, but I sure as hell know that a lot of them did not exist at paragon, which is very cool Yeah A lot of them they have very similar ideas to what we see in the other mobas But they they've got some kind of like a theory twist on what the item usually does or how it usually works Which I really like. I think that's a great idea But uh, you want to start with your first item there, man Uh, my first item is the paladin's mask I had to pick a support item had to the masks are support items Um, I'm not really we're not going to really get too much into the details of Exactly their stats or anything, but what it does This is a tier three item uh spreads damage a damage reducing consecration on the ground So it doesn't it doesn't specifically say concentration, but it's a paladin's mask You're spreading an area around you that reduces damage. That's a consecration I think that's really cool. It is borrowing your traditional a traditional paladin skill Bring it into this game and I can imagine that would be extremely powerful Especially if you're fighting a team that loves to do those wombo combos You could you could nullify that um with with this paladin's mask pretty easily At least a little bit seems like Yeah, absolutely. It seems like the area I mean, we don't know how big a unit is but it says it's a thousand unit area That to me sounds huge It does so you could fit if you could fit your entire team in this and they just take reduced damage across the board That's going to be absolutely like game changing in a team fight, but I said it spreads though It's not going to just immediately be there. So you really got to time it and know this something is coming before you activate it Yeah It'll be really interesting to see the plays that get made with stuff like this. Yeah jelly your first one what you got So I picked a bow item because and I love a lot of the bow items, but I speak picked specifically divergent bow What divergent bow does is that when you basic attack somebody so I shoot the enemy daunte I will get a ricochet off of daunte to a target nearby him It just won't play and it does slightly reduce damage But it applies on hits to that second target the cool thing about divergent bow that I didn't realize at first Is that it will keep ricocheting? Ones out of targets unique targets. I should say so Yeah, and it applies on hits So crits or any things that you have on your your items that do damage over time or things like that Will also bounce from target to target. So if you get a good shot lined up You could hit all six of the enemy myths and any minions that are behind them all in one ricochet with It'll reduce every time it bounces Damage is damage no matter what the cost is so that Is gonna be a really cool thing to see builds come out with and see like line-ups come out and get really good ricochets off It's gonna I can't wait to play with this item. It's insane It it reminds me a little bit of zinxes stunned that she could Hit and it would bounce off a bunch of minions and then once it hit a hero it would stun them I imagine a little bit like that. Yeah, when I read this I didn't realize that either I like that was the first thing I thought was this would be really good for wave clear If you're just you know hitting an extra minion with every shot, but you'd be hitting every single minion with every shot Yeah, and it says it oh it reduces down to a certain limit. So it won't go below a certain threshold Which means that no matter what you're doing damage regardless of how many times it's gonna ricochet So and if you're getting crits on those if you build like a hundred percent crit at the same time And you're critting even with reduced damage. You're still getting up there in the numbers That's really cool. I like that Good choice jelly good choice And speaking of which divergent bow ties perfectly into your next item. Ah the axe of crito I guess that's Dorito 20 of crit damage is converted to true damage So if you get a crit that extra crit damage 20 of it is converted to true damage I love this because It's a way of getting armor penetration without really getting armor penetration And it's a way to have a crit build that still has some pin and can still You know, snipe down really tankier opponents. I'm Very cool idea for this axe Absolutely I think this is a great thing It's going to be interesting to see how balanced it is because 20 sounds like a lot I know that they've mentioned it's not listed on the website currently But they've mentioned that this will have a cooldown per target know what that is So I can't just endlessly 20 true damage to somebody But I mean, I wish I could that'd be great. I would love that Can you so just man goose and I can do that? I think that'd be perfectly balanced Just he and I get 20 true damage per every shot. That's fine. I think it's balanced. No big deal The way I'm reading though, it's just 20 of the crit damage though So You get your regular damage you crit damage on top of that and it's only 20 of that extra crit damage, right? Or is it just 20 percent of the overall strike percent of your total crit? So it's okay. So if you are dealing 100 damage you crit for 200, it's going to be 20 of the 200 Okay, right on right on That's yeah, that's better than I thought It's yeah This item I think will be like a really crazy one that you'll see I'll built a lot at least initially Yeah, because it sounds really good. It's just going to see if it's actually good in practice All right, jelly. What's your next one my next item is the crimson dragon sword now? We've seen the art for this for a while. We've had the art for this item for a long time Never knew what it did. Now that we do holy crap It sounds incredible for all you people that are going to all the sites You better build this item with them because it's insane So it takes a portion of steel that you get Thing an enemy champion or enemy myth. Sorry It takes a portion of that and converts it to a damage over time that Is them for the amount that you healed for 75 percent the amount you healed So the more life steal you have the more you're going to heal and the more you're going to burn them at the same time On top of the damage you were already doing So this to me, I don't know why you would build life steal and not pick this item up Yeah, because it's absolutely insane. I could definitely see somebody with All sides and then one crimson dragon sword too Yeah, absolutely. I mean it says it's got a 500 damage cap For over three seconds. Oh really but 500 damage is still an insane amount of damage to do over time Not even including your basic attack damage like that's after everything People are going to be min maxing the shit out of that like exactly how much life steal Do you need we already are in the discord people have been like trying to do the math I'm like, okay, if I build half crit half life steal, how do I hit the perfect 500 over three seconds ratio where I get 498.3 damage over three seconds. Oh, yeah, it's already a thing People love my item builder hasn't helped because everyone's looking at the stats really quickly and being like, okay Yep, we have perfect amounts right here But then you got a factor in how much the actual hero does with scaling and everything Exactly. Yeah. Oh, it's gonna be they love that min maxing DPS spreadsheet stuff Oh, dude, that's why I built my spreadsheet was I was like, I love that stuff. So I'm here like, yes Yes, all the things I can see them all It's gonna be incredible. That's awesome uh my next my next uh Item is the berserker shield Um, it has attack power and attack speed while you're above 50 health But if you go below 50 health you get armor and uh health per five second Health regen basically Yeah, I think this is really cool and will be super good for bruiser type heroes for like Iran or tallows or anybody that Like could you imagine if chimera had this? It would be my god. Oh, no, it would be stupid Or a crunch. Could you imagine crunch with this? It would be absolutely amazing Yeah, they'd be broken 100 percent. There'd be no stopping this because holy shit I mean, I guess it depends on how much attack attack power attack speed they get And then it doesn't seem like it's a lot of armor and a lot of uh health regen, but Even some and just being able to convert back and forth back like that is just Crazy good. I really really like this item Yeah, and they have they really like this concept of being above thresholds for one stat and being below for a different stat Yeah, and I think that that by itself you can make a build out of just the threshold items of like All right, if I'm above 50 health, I am overpowered beyond all reason and if I'm below 50 health I'm tankier than everybody else on the team Like oh dude, it's gonna be insane to look at some of this stuff Oh, that's amazing What you got jelly Bulls curse is my third item This item so we've been theory crafting this and uh sinist or sorry, not sinist Schifter who we had on a couple weeks ago Brought this up to this item up to me And I've realized the pure power of it since then is that when you die When you go down to zero health you gain five seconds that you can run around on the map with bonus move speed At the end of that five seconds It takes a portion a percentage of your maximum health and deals it as mac magic damage in an area around you So you basically turn into a bomb five seconds after you die Now because it's based off of maximum health Uh, we've been calling the build that we made with this grog nuke Because you get grog nark and you stack him up with so much health that this item can deal 1,300 damage by itself Just after he dies so he after everything said and done he just runs in and blows up for 1,300 damage I mean that's you could almost nuke a carry in one hit just by him dying like it's just insane What you could do with this that doesn't even include grog nark's health scaling by itself Which yeah, it's going to be nuts to see this item in play So terriel and heroes of the storm does this exactly is just as as his passive whenever he dies He can move around and explode on people and it causes some pretty crazy interactions with the game um What I can see happening Is like Their core is that like three percent health you got your grog nuke going in He's beating on it. He dies and everybody's like, oh, thank god Then he just explodes takes out the core and you oh god, that'll be insane to see this Yeah, that's a really cool item. I don't know if I would ever build something with the intent to die It might be fun might be fun um My next one Is broken mask. This is just a tier one item. I don't even know what the stats are I just like the art the art is so cool to me. This one just looks I don't know why this is a tier This tier one item caught my eye But just like looking through it was like man, that is really cool Like when I clicked on it totally assumed it was going to be a tier three and I was like, man, this is a shitty tier three item Because it's not a tier three item, I don't know this one. I just picked simply on aesthetics. That's it Even for a tier one though, this like the active on this item gained 20 of your maximum mana back Just on press on a three minute cooldown. That's insane Supports, I mean, it's going to be a support item, right? But any like castor support just gains their mana back 20 of it over Instantly insane going to be really cool to see Indeed My next item though, I have destiny blade, which is a melee only item Which I think is good and bad for the effect it has it makes a lot of sense Well, you don't want this to just be everybody for the same time. I would love to build this on ranged myths So it's one of those give and take things But every time you attack an enemy myth you leave a stack of destiny's edge on them Building up to five for each stack. They take one percent bonus physical damage As long as they have that stack on them and it falls off after a couple seconds When you hit five stacks, they just instantly take 10 max health damage just In an instant. That's nutty to me It's got a 60 second cooldown per enemy. So I can't just constantly stack it on the same guy But if you hit that fifth stack, you're going to be doing so much damage so fast That you could do some serious work I think malaya is probably going to be a huge user of this item in particular. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that I could definitely see that I could I can imagine using this to burst down bomb nark and then he just explodes on top of you Oh The instant regret you just see him die and you see him run at you again. You're like, oh, no I didn't look at his items. He's got fool's curse. I'm dead Yeah, I hate to go back to that item already, but there's going to be so many clips of that Yeah, but I'm just going to keep all montages of just fool's curse giving people a headache That I mean that's basic that that's a lot of fucking damage right there Especially for against a tankier opponent. Damn. Yeah, absolutely Uh, my last one was the cotton spore guard Uh increases your resistance based on what kind of damage you took So if you take physical damage, you get physical damage reduction If you take magical damage, you get magical damage reduction and it alternates So if you take a so if you're getting hit with like a physical attack and then a magical attack Then a physical attack then a magical attack. It's really not going to do shit for you But if if there's somebody on their team and like say they've got like I'm going to use paragon terms because you know a theory is not really out yet So you had a giddy and that's that's running away with the game But they got a a a twin blast too that that's really dangerous and you're tanking You want to be able to tank that twin blast for a while? And then if giddy comes out of shadows, you'd be able to tank him for a while So I think this is a really cool um really cool idea. I like the cotton spore guard There's a champion in league that has something very similar to this is their passive And that when they attack somebody depending on what type of damage that person does they gain the shield I like it way more as a defensive thing instead of requiring me to attack getting attacked Procs the shield But I completely agree. This is going to be really interesting to see Somebody use well if they can mitigate their damage from one type of user at all times It could get really really crazy So my final item Is amulet of the ancients this one, I think Seems underwhelming but the the implications that of what you can do with it Get insane That when you fall below 30 health You have an aoe radius around you that every enemy in it gets rooted for one second Which is a crazy amount of time In team fights for a game that seems to be as bursty as this one is going to be I think having one second where everyone is rooted on the enemy team if you position well Is going to be absolutely nuts And on top of that when you root everybody you gain 2.5 percent of your health back Per person that you rooted. So not only did you just go below 30? Yeah You can now go back up to 45 health if you root enough people in it, which is just nuts Yeah, I can imagine charging in with a tank And you're pushing and if you if you're charging forward like that their Reaction is going to be to try and fall back as your team moves forward And then you're going to end up there They're going to think they have you that you're going to root them You're going to gain a bunch of health back your team's going to be able to overwhelm them This will be yeah, this is going to be an amazing item. Like I said, I almost picked this one as well This is Really really cool thing. I can't wait to see what these roots look like to Agreed Yeah, I just I I'm so excited for so many of these items and there's A dozen more that I could have picked for this that I feel like these ones just like just edged out above them I had a really hard time. I wanted to pick at least one that wasn't tier three And I was kind of happy when I saw a broken mask I thought it was tier two to tell you the truth, but Yeah, holy shit These these items are amazing Guys, you can you can go to the website and look at every single one of these items Head over to jelly knees discord or the ethereal discord and do your own item builds if you wish It's going to be a little hard to do without knowing the hero Attack Starting attack power and scaling all that but You know these get some idea of some of the crazy shit that you're going to be able to do in ethereal and that's uh That's the hallmark of ethereal crazy shit that you can do Basically like it's just it's gonna be really cool to see Even builds that I haven't considered or anybody in the community hasn't considered yet Somebody's gonna find some interaction and I'll be like wait a second. That's the same like you can't do that Yeah, it's gonna be tough to balance Absolutely just like everything else in ethereal. Yeah Oh, yeah Got the work cut out for him. Uh, did you have anything else jelly? I think that's it right on what about plugs. You got anything to plug this week more videos Ever all the videos we're doing videos. I've got 40 videos that I have ideas for To do into the next several weeks. So yeah video video video Uh streaming if you have any questions on ethereal pop into my stream twitch or youtube I'm always happy to answer ethereal questions or just have people hang out And yeah, what about you mangus? That's what I'll just plug your stream because uh marvellous monday's were um Is it should be today, right? Is that coming tonight because we're recording? Come out for marvellous monday's and join us man. It's so much fun. Like there's There's no marvellous monday's ip and psd my stream be there every week. 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