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Oh, but that means you're so sad all the time, but you know what? kind of accurate See it's not working better No, because it started when when it was like, well, I should introduce rogers here So people understand when he pipes in later who he is but now it's like Well, it's just seems silly for me to have to introduce him. So we're sure yeah Roger part of the show introduce yourself, man So with that taken care of let's start with a few tech things you should know. Oh, yeah, there's a part for that too. Yeah Theranos is shutting down its business entirely according to an email that theranos CEO David Taylor sent shareholders and was published by the wall street journal Now tom reminded me earlier this morning that we have perhaps never talked about theranos on the show before The company claimed a cheaper alternative to traditional medicine tests like blood tests until inconsistencies And the company's practices were published in 2015 that also started with the wall street journal theranos founder elizabeth holmes was indicted on federal wire fraud charges in june along with the company's former ceo coo rather and president ramesh balwani Prosecutors say the two defrauded investors doctors and patients never talked about that. Nope. Oh my gosh I didn't really think it was a bunch of it. Well, it was But now it is Uh bit torrent publicly launched a new bit torrent client. How very exciting you torrent web Which has been in beta for years you torrent web handles all downloading and playback from within your browser And like you torrent you torrent web can play audio and video files before they're finished downloading You torrent web is only available for windows for now Snap introduced two new styles of its spectacles two glasses. They're not giving up folks You can get veronica and nico with polarized lenses and a new black semi soft case both available starting today for $199 in limited quantities To be sold at select Nordstrom and neiman marcus stores in the us and a variety of retailers in europe this fall Snap's partner lensable will continue to let customers order prescription lenses for their glasses neiman marcus You know, it's pretty it's kind of high society Yeah, nintendo direct stream has been scheduled for thursday september 6th at 6 p.m. Eastern time according to the nintendo direct website The presentation will run for 35 minutes We'll see if that happens and we'll cover both 3ds and switch games. They're pretty good at the time Yeah, because it's all pretty made now so they don't yeah, they pre they pre-produce Yeah, so i'm guessing they'll hit the the mark the big they're probably the only one that has a chance of staying close to their time the biggest issue is what Very lackluster showing at e3. Yeah, I think that's why this is happening when it's happening They need to do something before the holidays get here. So all right Well, let's talk a little bit about another company that's not pivoting so much as changing direction. Yeah, how about vimeo? Vimeo ceo and jolly sood How you like them apple? That was all right. It was all fine till you pointed out. Okay. Yeah It was perfect. Scott just really likes his name Anyway Tells axios the company is changing its business to focus on selling software tools to its community instead of being a video viewing destination Sood said this allows vimeo to go after a less competitive social software as a service market focused on stock images of video Vimeo will now sell vimeo stock a software tool for Creators like giddy images and shutter stock. I think this is a fascinating shift Yeah, they're sort of ceding the platform ground to youtube And saying we're going to be a distribution channel focused on helping creators creating their videos Where are people going to get their legal nudity though? Because that's a thing they're known for you go to vimeo for your artistic naked people really? Oh, I didn't know that Yeah, big time. I just you know, I've always known vimeo as I'd signed up in 2009 I think is when my account started and yeah at the time YouTube was was ahead of vimeo, but vimeo was a legitimate competitor to youtube It was kind of the same thing And over time it it sort of became a more well, you know, if you work for an ad agency Or you're a little bit more serious about video quality. You might go to vimeo over youtube That was still a few years ago, right? So you know at this point I've been paying for a pro account on vimeo for years and I have to admit. I'm like, I mean No one's really coming here. This is not a place for discovery anymore. No, no, that's the thing and they're leaning into that They're like fine. We'll do what we're known for and good at they also had for a hot moment there They were the place you'd go for the more artistic stuff But also like documentaries and longer form stuff Being that all now it's no longer 15 minute limits on youtube. So yeah, it's probably the pivot they have to make China's mo bike bike sharing company is leaving Manchester, England making it the only city among 200 worldwide To lose service mo bike says it was losing roughly 10 percent of its bikes each month to theft And vandalism including bikes that have been set on fire or left in canals Or perhaps garbage dumpsters. It's Manchester Mo bike has processed refunds and removed the bikes from the city The company will continue to operate in london at new castle pontine oxford in cambridge And apparently they got close to doing the same thing in new castle, but we're able to get things worked out Manchester is sort of like well, hey, you've worked at this out at other places Uh, it's not it's not like you you couldn't have done it here No bike things to differ, right? They're like no we tried like Your consumers are revolting maybe not the right market. I don't even know. It's the consumers. It's just Right. Yeah, the the populace in general because it was actually well used a lot of people were using the bikes But there were also unfortunately a lot of people vandalizing the bikes were trying to steal them It is an example. I think I mean the the temptation is to make jokes about manchesterites or or or something, but it is a it is a Symbol that when you are a company going into a different culture You it can be hard, right? We think of that as western companies going into china But here's a chinese company going into manchester just unable to navigate the culture Did you get any worse when like football time comes around that soccer? I mean It always gets worse. Again, that's the stereotype, right? Yeah, the yobbs One of our stories last week about uber possibly using jump bikes To make new uber bikes in a warehouse in in san francisco It was the same thing the ceo of jump didn't say whether they were doing or not But did say there is an issue, you know people steal parts of the bikes. They vandalize them You know, they take the chains This is an ongoing problem that we have to solve when we manufacture the bikes in general Yeah According to new research from a team at northeastern university in the university of massachusetts am hearst published by bloomberg today Netflix and youtube are the most throttled services by telecoms in the united states The data was gathered from an app called we he which was downloaded by 100 000 customers to monitor when data speeds to mobile Services differ from the general network speed available AT&T and verizon were showed to be throttling the most the carriers said We're only slowing video to manage congestion and we don't target video by its source So it's kind of a he said she said because if you look at it from the carrier's point of view if they're saying We only slow down the video to dvd quality when we're congested Then that means the most popular sources of video would be the ones to show up the most which Is youtube and netflix? Yeah, I i'm a little surprised that they're Tart well, i'm a little bit. I'm i guess i'm not surprised that there's some throttling going on But i thought i thought nobody was allowed to do this anymore. Why did i think that? Why did i think i know that hold on i know now neutrality has changed scott Pull back of all that stuff. Yeah A sign of that well first of all because they all said oh, we're not changing the carriers could always do this T mobile was doing zero rating on on video and throttling everything that wasn't in its plan before The open internet guidelines were changed mobile carriers always had had had an out on this This is trying to show whether that practice has increased Since the change since dropping the open internet guidelines and the reclassification of the internet And it says it seems like maybe it has increased the carriers are saying if it's increased It's only because we're free to manage our networks better I think what the the problem i'm having is that i don't you i've unlimited data now But i'm still in this paranoid position where i'm thinking well, I can't just watch a tv show on hulu on my phone That's weird. Yeah, where's the wi-fi you can i can but i don't in fact Even when they throw out of you you might not notice the difference because it brings it from 1080p down to 480i Which on a lot of phones Some people may not even be able to tell yeah, i mean i i have horizon Unlimited and when i'm at the gym they have like weird wi-fi there that never works I do watch movies and tv shows on my phone And it's that's you know, that's lte and for the most part it works really nice But i i realize that i am much more of a data hog than The average person. Yeah, I watch a lot of you know, high video quality stuff That said I do want to know if unlimited is unlimited and when it is not Yeah, I agree google launched a new search engine for scientific data called data set search universities governments and other institutions That publish their data online can include meta tags Sorry metadata tags in their web pages that describe who created it When it was published and how it was collected etc Google tells the verge the goal is to unify the ability to find In the tens of thousands of different Repositories for data sets online the initial release of data set search Will cover the environmental and social sciences government data and data sets from news organizations like pro-publica This is a really cool effort. So what google's doing is saying you've got a lot of data out there in support Of articles in support of studies But even the people who want to find it can't always find it They use an example in their their article in the verge of a climatologist Who wanted a particular kind of data and didn't find it until she ran into a colleague at a conference Who told her where it was and it was in a very prominent data repository that she just hadn't checked So google doesn't want to replace those repositories It wants to index them and make it easy for scientists to find the kind of data sets that will help them in their research I like it I mean look Like there that seems like data we could I don't know benefit from don't make it so hard or you weird to get to I'm all in on that Yeah, I mean that's it's as much as google can Google is such a repository for data in general But as much as it can make sense of this kind of data that specific people, you know Are you researching something specific? Are you uh part of an organization like a university? Are you part of a government organization all of that? The more you know And this is the kind of thing that isn't found in just general web Spitering right these these are sometimes called the hidden web Uh, and you need specially search engines for them. So I mean It's I'm surprised that no one has done this before and yet, uh as big as google is the academic Uh, the academic world seems to be welcoming it. Yeah, at least well speaking of large networks Let's talk about facebook according to a new pew research center study Surveying u.s. Adults that was conducted from may 29th through june 11th 42 of facebook users have taken a break from the network in the past year 54 of those users aged 18 and older say they've adjusted their privacy settings in the past 12 months That number is actually higher for younger users around 42 percent say they've taken a break from checking the platform for several weeks Or more at a time 26 percent say they've detected deleted rather the facebook app from their cell phone Just I done with it don't want it and 74 of those facebook users say they've taken at least one of those actions In the past year There's anything that I've just described also republicans are no more likely than democrats to have taken a break from facebook Or deleted the app from their phone in the past year according to the study Oh, they're all the same after all tom Well, I the point of that I think what pew pew research was trying to show was uh, and if you read the study They say this they were trying to investigate whether there there is a suppression of voices or are a particular political leaning Leaving the platform in in their numbers than another because they don't feel And don't see it They did like the numbers seem high and crazy 42 taking a break like those that seems like weird But on a platform at 2.5 billion or whatever it is now It's not really that shocking like and of course we're all going to change those settings And i'm telling you every time you hear in a news story where it says facebook, uh Turns out i've been you know holding whatever information and they've got a new option up to go turn that off I think people generally at least in some percent and about half and do about half Maybe a little less than half. Yeah, go and do it. They're like android upgradeers Yeah And no, it's more of the manufacturers not not the users fault in that you know I will say and this is anecdotal and you know very much my personal sort of social group, but Facebook is falling off It's falling off the way that I would say A lot of my twitter friends fell off a few years ago because they were like, yeah, it's twitter um, and I think that facebook doesn't lose because So many of those people are just on instagram all day now But I I've really seen a drop in usage among people that were quite prolific on facebook in the past again Small sample those are just my friends and I don't have 5 000 of them But it this this does seem to be a trend where people are like, uh, you know like taking a week off I'm not missing anything. I have a small sample of three kids. My well one doesn't live here anymore, but my three kids None of them use facebook anymore all of them are on Uh constant instagram like you say they're 18. They're 21. They're 23 for whatever she is and that's Again, that's anecdotal, right? Real to me that that change is happening. Well, I remember a monthly active user only has to use facebook once to count So that number can stay high with people Almost never using facebook right and then suddenly just drop off if people really stop Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com go do it right now All right facebook coo Cheryl sandberg and twitter CEO jack dorsi told the senate intelligence committee in the united states wednesday That they are better prepared to combat foreign interference on their platforms Now this comes about a year after both companies told the same panel That russia used inauthentic accounts to spread confusing messaging around the 2016 election google had been invited to testify at the senate intelligence committee But declined to send google CEO sundar apichai or alphabet CEO larry page google's kent walker the senior vice president of the global affairs department and and generally their top lawyer Was made available, but congress declined to let him testify saying they wanted the decision makers Not the lawyer Well, he's the guy who makes the decisions about social networking type policies and election Whatever The name recognition isn't there In the afternoon session today in the us house dorsi answered questions about whether social media is biased Against conservative views. So I want to go over a little bit of what happened at each of these events Uh and a little bit about to each of the stuff and then I have an opinion about what's going on here That's evolved today and is a little different even than what I said on the morning stream this morning In the senate intelligence committee senator mark warner said i'm skeptical that Ultimately, you'll be able to truly address this challenge talking about election meddling on your own Congress is going to have to take action here. So that's made the lines is we're threatening to regulate you twitter Said it was considering plans to label automated accounts Though dorsi acknowledged that all bots are not detectable. He said it's really a question of the implementation But we're interested in it and we are going to do something along those lines so appealing to both the congressman and The the public uh the congress people and the public to say Uh, we are going to try to do something also republican senator susan collins said she had learned from a university report that She'd been targeted some 270 times by russian linked trolls on twitter Big number 270 out of context also probably all of us have been Targeted more than on that often by bots that are russian controlled. All right the implication is this because she's in government Also 270 if you've been on twitter at all probably not that much, uh, I was targeted five times today house energy and commerce committee, uh That is still was still wrapping up right before the show But basically twitter submitted a new study that found that democratic and republican lawmakers have equal reach on the site Of course combined that with what we talked about earlier, but it was still the house members trying to say You need to be committed to free speech. So in the senate saying, you know, you need to crack down on these bots You need to crack down on the meddling. You need to stop a certain kind of speech and in the house You need to stop limiting speech. You need to stop silencing voices. All right follow with me here The department of justice today Attorney general has scheduled a meeting for september 25th with a number of state's attorneys general to discuss a growing concern That companies may be hurting competition and intentionally stifling the free exchange of ideas on their platforms According to justice department spokesman devin o'Malley. So attorney general jeff sessions wants to investigate whether Not there's election meddling. That's already being investigated. But whether there's suppression of speech Google said they briefed the committee in these matters several times And had understood that walker would be an appropriate witness But suddenly he was no longer an appropriate witness now. That's him. He said she said there But it sounds like congress as we mentioned wanted a big name So the third time in less than a year the top social media executives from silicon valley have come to capitol hill Uh, november was about election meddling april is about privacy today was about both election meddling and suppressing of conservative voices This is not in my opinion about any of that There is little to no evidence that any of the meddling has had any actual effect There's plenty of evidence of meddling and i'm not saying it hasn't had an effect But nobody's coming forth with the evidence of here's what it did. Here's what's happened There's not been much study and what study has been done is never proffered in any of these sessions to me This is a movement On some side to exploit fears to gain advantage And on the side of the tech companies to keep their businesses profitable So the tech companies show up because they want to polish their image or they don't show up because they think they can only lose In their image google Mr. Dorsey said twitter is approaching these challenges with a simple question How do we earn more trust from the people using our service? Facebook says the same thing google says the same thing. They are focused on how do we win you back? How do we make you trust us again? We need your business Whereas the congress people are all saying how do I win the mid-term election? What do I say that I can use in an ad that says I held these people accountable? That's why you get the cross purposes of too much free speech not enough free speech This is a battle for control. All right. This is my my new thesis This is a battle for control of the new most powerful communication medium And you are seeing every entity with an interest in using its influence playing all their cards To try to gain an advantage of using it. It's not newspapers anymore. It's not radio. It's not television Television got dragged before congress constantly when it was the most powerful medium It is no longer the most powerful medium This is the internet and particularly social media coming into its own And facebook and twitter despite the theater are not subjects of an enforcement action There's a little bit of finger when we might regulate you But they are the brokers for power and this is the negotiation with them To get an advantage in using their platform. Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that I think that's exactly what's going on. I would like to specifically say All in on your thought process about how uh, we're not getting A any kind of data that shows what was actually done with the meddling I get that the meddling scary. I get that it has implications all of that But no quantifiable results Of what did it actually do? Did it throw an election someone's way? Did it not do that? Did it do something else? Did it just annoy us all and did it just annoy people who are on these platforms and nobody else is affected by it? Like we don't know any of that because nobody's talking about that I assumed somebody's studying it somewhere, but are we not going to find out for five years? We talked about a couple of studies, but they're yeah, yeah, they're out there So that's my biggest takeaway from your thoughts is Until we start getting some of that I'm kind of tired about hearing about it like Okay, there was meddling can we now talk about the results like it's saying well my sprinkler broke Great. What happened? Well, you mean I should check to see if there's flooding or other problems Yeah, that's the point. I don't hear any of that coming out of anybody Frustrates me I don't know Twitter specifically has had this very strange PR issue lately Where you're either on the side of Twitter or you're not we don't have to get into that about you know the being like well, you know The bad things are happening and you know bad actors are definitely exist But we have to be really careful about what accounts We're you know either deleting or blocking or you know the like And facebook is going through the same issues and I think it's very true that a lot of executives are sitting around boardrooms You know at these companies going, huh? Okay. This got away from us and now that we've seen patterns of Of user behavior that were savvy enough to kind of go on to under the radar until it was a huge issue Um, so that everything is now reactionary That's I mean, I'm I'm willing to forgive anybody really for that because these are all networks that you know, we're all kind of Figuring out how powerful they are as we go along Now it's not to say that the people in charge should not have a firmer hand with some of these decisions and I have issues with particularly twitter and facebook in a in a lot of ways, but I I can't help but think We are on the right track because if you're holding a company that now knows what's going on And what can be possible? Very accountable particularly before big things happen like a national election then You know again that knowledge is power, right? I I have a slightly different take on it for me. It just comes out as being These companies are like the perfect scapegoat for everything that can or will go wrong because They wield such a mind share in At least in the political, you know, uh mind share sense that You know, it's it's suppressing speech from our side or you're allowing a very, um aggressive virulent kind of, uh, uh, you know Reactive speech that doesn't help the the political discourse It's essentially blaming the medium rather than the messenger because it plays well to their political base on both sides But also it allows you to have an almost no there's no downside not to blame There's no downside not to haul them for no one's going to say Oh, why did you waste your time bringing up the heads of twitter and facebook on capitol hill no one's going to say that Everyone's going to say what did you learn? What did you do what what tom was essentially alluding to their scoring political points? But at the same time They can you know, they can set up themselves Down the road. It's like, well, you know what we would have done better, but This platform was suppressing our political agenda by just, you know, you know by basically stopping any of our political views getting through or This political, you know, this platform allowed a political agenda to get out of hand because it let everyone and their mother talk about it ad nauseam And it just kind of you know covered the whole thing and swamped the entire debate and a particular viewpoint where there was no balance There was no nuance. You know, I mean so it for me is just Kind of the perfect political football where you could just toss around everyone has fun No one gets hurt. Well, maybe the companies but even then like, you know, not even much not even much I agree. Uh, this is why I like doing this show because we all four have different Viewpoints on this, but we're not necessarily in disagreement I'm on this side and you're on that side. We all have four different perspectives and that's what's going on There's nuance here and the one thing I want to add on top the cherry on top of the sunday that we just built out of our four different perspectives is Uh, what they want you to do is be mad and afraid That's how they manipulate you and it doesn't matter whether you're right or they're right If you're mad and afraid then whatever happens, they can either say We prevailed over that thing that made you mad or afraid or because of that thing you were mad or afraid of We didn't prevail and we need to stop it and and keep Manipulating you to their message and when I say they I mean all of them Everybody out there who's got a who's got a stake in persuading you to be on their side Yeah, I think the point roger was making it's it's that same argument of like the media doesn't want you to know about this it's like well, that's just becoming facebook and You know mediums that are less television and more internet. Yeah, I still see these very strange Uh, you know theories from people being like if you want to bypass the algorithm You have to copy and paste this message or then post it here, you know, like where I'm like, what are you talking? Look who started this like it's a chain letter, you know, it's it's all the same thing that we've seen for years But people are actually confused about how this all works And that's where I think it's you know the most detrimental because you're not going to get Billions of people using any network to understand how the technology works behind the network They just want to communicate with their friends But you know, there's just more to it than that back in the day people believe the televisions were watching them Yeah, right Yeah, well, they are Now we know Jack Dorsey's beard Just saying forget about the rest You bearded people, you know, like you just you you take someone to know him, right? He recognizes game. That's all I'm saying Okay. 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They're a mid-price grocery store So they're not bare bones, but they're not like whole foods either They're just the kind of store set to be disrupted whenever amazon fresh delivery arrives in cleveland rich says giant eagle now offers the ability to Uh, order groceries online either via the web or an app with both curbside pickup or delivery options available This is involved rearranging their retail to provide parking spaces for orders training personal shoppers They're now our frequent site when I shop there rich says I imagine this remains a big investment and part of a strategy to remove any barriers to shop at this chain Their prior strategy had been to remove reasons not to shop in the store Adding a stir bucks or child care or dining meals or banking options just to name a few Well, thank you rich appreciate that insight as always keeping coming folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com Thanks also to scott johnson who happens to be in the same room as tom merritt. We don't see that very often scott How does it feel? It doesn't feel uh any worse or better last time. No, I really like having tom here It's been great and uh always happy to be on wednesday. So the fact that we worked this out to be a wednesday appearance Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I know it worked out nice A lot of stuff going on around what i'm up to so if you're listening to this and you're thinking Man, what's that scott johnson up to? Well, you can go over to frog pants dot com and check it all out All my work is there and if that's not enough for you can follow me on this, uh, twitter We've been talking about all day where I also have a beard. 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Yeah, totally Really? Yeah, we'll prove it here See you see the box. Oh Hold everything scott. Are you telling me that you stand? Yeah, i'm standing What and tom is just small compared to you. I'm so not used to this Yeah, I know people don't see this until they meet us and then they're like, oh my gosh I mean all this time. I just never thought you were standing. I'm a monster You're you're you're just really good at standing. He looks so comfortable Sometimes I have this chair back here if i'm tired or whatever else that but it's I kind of go back and forth Yeah, no, I actually um When I uh when I moved studio rooms, I kind of sat and I haven't stood since but Standing is preferable sometimes. Yeah, just kind of Well, since grounds you go today, uh, we should do the showbot Okay chat realm But We got scapegoat valley must not be yet. I don't really know what that means Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Um scapegoat valley is actually pretty good. Uh, you bearded people. Um, Uh, your consumers are revolting That's funny. Um, your pairs are revolting your consumers are revolting Um Well bike mo problems I don't know Is it doing the one I'm on? I'm the same chat pot, isn't you keep keep going over. Yeah, sorry. We're trying to figure out this chat bot thing because uh Uh chat room. Did you record the show? Oh, yeah, I recorded it Um I'm still because I need to keep recording. I only have one recording So I need to record for the rest of the good day internet But if you have that version, would you be able to drop box it to me? Oh, it's already in the Actually, I need to do a quick uh pass the average volume, but I'm do that real quick All right. Hold off. Hold off. Yeah, don't do anything. It will be in the drop box like super short. Yeah, give me two seconds here just to Give us a quick Let's do a little noise reduction here I had Scott record it straight into the box or so it'll show up super fast In fact, it may some form already be there, but don't do anything quite yet until I will not touch before I make sure sit Well, right the little because so it's show about that chat room dot net, right? Yeah Show about and I I'm gonna go ahead and cast my vote for scapegoat valley. I think that one's very nice Like monument valley scapegoat valley Really like that on canny valley. Hey, where you going on vacation? I think we're gonna go to scapegoat valley valley Yeah, four night thing not even a week Everything on someone else for an entire week That sounds great You blame room service. Ah room service didn't clean my room Scapegoat valley. I'll never stay here again friend of mine asked me Because I was like, you know, I have to take a vacation one of these days, you know Whenever I can catch up I sleep and she was like, what's your dream? Bake? And I'm like To never talk to anyone for seven days I don't even have to leave my house I just don't want anyone to talk to me. That's truly my My ideal vacation and then I would miss everybody and I'd come back and it would be fine But that's the kind of vacation that I also like to take or what? Yeah, because because you just you just chill don't have to go to the airport. Yeah, don't have to pack anything Don't have to think about, you know, like the cool tropical island. That's like, you know, like the cool one Everyone should think you're gone so that they don't bug you You are gone. Yeah, because you're gone. That's right. Yeah, you read books You should see a wave file pop soon Okay, it's a wave. So it's bigger and it's called just like dts tom dts tom My perfect vacation would be to be at whatever exotic locale without actually having to go through the whole process of traveling Like, you know Yeah, I mean, so me too So I'm like, I was going to the beach right here I mean beaches are Really, right? You're like the fauna around the beach is like kind of different But otherwise, I also had a very long travel day yesterday. So I'm like If I have to get on a plane, I want to go No, I would I would love it if I could be at a place where like you just go at your front door and you're you're there Whatever exotic locale like a lagoon Where the waiters are dolphins and they you know, they come up to you with your Oh, we're dolphins. That would be cool exotic beverages in the hollowed out gourds of fruit Like a cantaloupe or Cantaloupe Yeah, that sounds good. What do you think odi? Let's put you to work So I I can touch it now or I shouldn't touch it. I don't know. I called it tom mine's 215 years Yeah, what's so I downloaded the file that said dts tom Does it does it commit? Okay. It should be 742 mag Ever take a few k Uh, wow Or something. I got one that said 8k. Oh, it's still uploading. Okay. I think I downloaded something. It was exactly 8k Six minutes left. Okay. Yeah, it says six minutes. I will not touch Well, this gives me ample time to Why you should we should have changed the file name so then talk about dolphins I love a good dolphin. Yeah Wonderful animal. Oh, they taste great. Oh, you mean to play with and stuff. Well, you know, it depends if they're in a group And they're all young males or jerks Now, I know that I know that whale is a delicacy, although That's not something that I would eat. Do people eat dolphins? Yes. I mean, someone does right. There's gotta be somebody They even beat them in japan. Yeah, that was the whole documentary the cove was Oh, really? See, I didn't watch it because of course, I'm like, I can't handle part of it Is a lot of those cultures ate wheel whale meat because it was an available source of protein Not because things become delicacies because after the process of eating something over fishing and yeah Like there's a lot of delicacies in chinese cuisine and it's mostly because hey We're uh, you know, we're a country that used to suffer regular famine So you ate everything you could to stay alive and after a while you excuse it by saying oh, it's a delicacy It's like, you know, right Yeah, yeah, like or rhino horns because you know, you know it's part of certain traditional chinese medicine, uh ailments, uh Buy a pack of viagra works much better and is a probably a lot cheaper And works I'm sure compared to No, I don't know have you tried I have not tried the rhino horn I don't need it. You got shorter. I'm too tired I just want everyone to leave me alone for a week Viagra, come on Actually worse the other cool thing would be to eat whatever you wanted Without having to suffer any of the Like you can eat like really fatty fried foods You're gonna have to suffer any health issues because of it just for a week Like you pig out on whatever. Well, you probably I mean Unless you're really unhealthy to begin with a week probably wouldn't kill you But you'd probably feel pretty bad at the end of that. Well, that's what I'm saying You don't have any without the repercussions of just feeling gross It's like being able to drink as much as you want without, you know, having Yeah, I mean, I don't drink red wine anymore because it just really like doesn't yeah, it doesn't It just I I'm hot. It makes me feel like overheated like I don't even just a glass. It's like I actually can't drink Too many beers anymore because it will I will not feel good the next day not in a hangover way to like in a I ate something I didn't agree with too much too much. Uh, I don't know. I don't know what it is. Oh, maybe you might buy all that beer I drink I drink cider a lot because of that I like a side I I like, you know, I like something chilled Um, doesn't have to have ice in it, but something cold, but there yeah, there's something about red wine beer I'm not really drinking beer these days, but a beer here and there Not a problem, but even just just one glass of red wine with dinner the next day. It's like Yeah, it's like I feel like I have a fever and this apparently is something that is it's like a tannin thing that bothers people So I'm like, all right. Well, I just won't drink that anymore. Oh, well and good evening I can't have you know, they got like green tea, uh caffeine Hells like extract. Yeah, those make me worthless. I'll spend I'll take one of those and for the next three hours I'm just a jittery mess who can't focus. Wow. It's bad. Do you is that the only caffeine that you? Ingest well no like I can do coke and you know soft drinks are fine well because Because every so often coffee will kind of turn on me a little bit just my stomach. It's just too acidic So if I drink green tea, you know, I'm talking like like loose leaves, you know, I'd go out of my way to get nice stuff Yeah, it's that caffeinated, but the pills I've never had Yeah, the pills are I don't know what's just concentrated or what the deal is, but it just jacks me too much at once Yeah, yeah, that's the worst where you're just like I just wanted to go away if I could just take some base to make it go away. I would have some kind of absorbance or something Yeah Two minutes it says roger two minutes Two minutes one minute. Well, look at it. It's freaking out. Oh 42 seconds remaining Uh, it's I think the problem is I was sinking all the other a lot drop box never sinks. No I'll say My grandma used to always say A boiling drop box never sinks I don't know what this means, but it'll mean something to you I just I did this this morning where I stared at a file conversion forever And I just seemed like it was never going to go anywhere Finally started talking to tom about something and then it was done. Yeah, so I don't know why we're doing this again But it's gonna It's gonna be any second. I have to think final five files is the one we're doing but I don't know the final five the final five files Well, I'll tell you guys, um, those of us who have dogs three out of four I used rover.com yesterday because I had to go out of town Just for the day not overnight, but still like a solid 16 hours I was yeah, you know the dog couldn't just be here all day And I wasn't comfortable having someone just walk him a couple times. Like he needed to like be somewhere else And It's very affordable It's depending on who your rover is But they were they lived next not next door, but I mean within a five minute drive from me very convenient super nice and um, you know my flight was late as I mentioned and um, you know, I probably just got really nice people who weren't annoyed with me because of that even though I felt bad about it. Um, even though it was out of my control, but I thought it would be More expensive honestly It's 40 bucks 40 bucks, huh? Yeah, and if you want to hear more of this discussion Stay tuned and listen to the rest of Exactly who walked Otis wait 40 bucks for sitting session. No, it's uh video folks. Thanks for watching and everything Audio folks stick around. There's more to come we still we keep going