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Stop playing man. Hey, this guy right here y'all. He don't need no introduction man This guy right here man movies Listen man if you want to watch a movie because I listen I got stuck the other day man Yeah, man, it's this movie. It's crazy man. Steve old truck big Steve o Trust nobody to is out man. What the heck is going on man? What what caused you to even come up with this? Everybody asked for it. Everybody asked for the way in the way part one ended ever say got to be a part two Wow, but you I go back further to like that part one I want to just know like how'd you even come up with concept because I didn't interview you on that part one So I'm like, how did you come up with the whole concept? What's crazy because part one believe it or not wrote 20 years ago, what or 20 years ago I was doing a little time and a stick keep myself out of trouble. I start right right movie and I said Get out mama make this so I just had a sitting around a friend of mine by the name of Charles Burgess We got together actually took the movie script and put it to a book So usually you get a book get a movie So actually at the movie we put it to a book and the book was so hard everybody's wanted to see the movie Wow, everybody's talking about like a down-and-go on his book So everybody's wanted it So it actually part two come from that because the other part to the book It was supposed to be just a one-story thing. I wrote the story real like you got some realness to it Whatever and it wasn't been that well, they like they love it so hard I had to make a part two to the book. Yeah, that's how the movie supposed to be the one movie But it was so hard and do a part two to the movie I mean, you know, but but you had to have something in you that said this is what I want to do When did you first know that this is where you you know, like this I'm gonna I'm gonna be writing movies films This is my passion. Well, I actually come from the promotion and movie in a music world Okay, though. So basically I used to be a big promoter I did a lot of big concerts and parties in my Milwaukee city and then I started my music If the recordings, okay, we care what artists called cuckoo how we have number one hit single in my project familiar Yes, how old were you when you started doing all of this? About 1617. Oh young. Yeah by 1819 got to the music game. Wow But who turns you on to it? Basically my cousin mr. Do it to death. He was rapping I had some money and I wanted to do something different with it. You know, I mean, okay He got to a situation and I got behind him start backing him and it's sad You know, it's that love for music. You know, so I was a big big music fan and you know Cousin do it to death at the time. He's past your aspirin now But mr. Do it to death introduced to this guy named big Hank. I thought he was better than dr. Dre Cold he was like better dr. David stole some of his samples. Wow They know that He was masterpiece stole some of our work from mr. Do it to death So these this team was so hot and we started a big label Milwaukee and from there on this I want you to know and you heard that a lot because of it be like the people who really don't have that like the The look at the time or at the momentum at the time others will come in and Maybe take something or sample something or take, you know, I mean because they're not big enough to even Go back and say you do this for me, right? So that's what you're referring to. Yeah Well with the what to do the death with master P Duffy rich call me out of LA priority records. Okay, I live with my CD a Couple CDs down line here my couple my ideas of the song. They did it right where you can I try to see you Couldn't do it. You know, you knew you knew the familiar idea of it. Dr. He is more like we finally made it on time with the records Cuckoo cow how many stirrer came out and it's a sapper in there. Hey notice that they dread use on Eminem album Yeah, it did it right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you say cuckoo cow. Yeah, I remember Jesus called it cuckoo cow in my project Wish man Lucas see me in my wish gold mob was up. They'll be able to free Even I put up cuckoo in the song now. I did my projects like cuckoo cow On his albums to refer to it So you just that and and as far as the that's like the Milwaukee culture Was it something to where you wanted to get those looks in the city to be seen by everybody else? Yeah, we we visually sell us the music after Trump, you know, okay Cuckoo cow album called album called disturbed and we had to sing about which to do the death right back at you And we took him on a roll for a Minnesota Memphis Kentucky all these different cities Detroit was in the street really selling hundreds of thousands of albums Especially the walking dead albums. Yeah, hard album man and twist on their mag 10 spice one And so the album so so hard. So cuckoo cow had a name in the streets So we made to the majors, you know saying a lot of artists that was looking up to him really knew him So jeez he heard them heard them wrong cut sitting back where he's in Carolina You know BMF is probably playing that stuff. There's a cuckoo. He's hard man. That's big man That's I get it, you know, I'm saying I will let you get at him a little bit because I didn't go into his history too far Yes, so growing up in Milwaukee. What was it like? I know we heard a certain parts of Milwaukee. It's tough is hood But for you where you were raised. What was it? I come from the air of the walk. It was great There's a lot of money around New your neighbors you go down the street five six years old not worried about nothing We had the gangs out there to seven one nine Trayfold vice lords and castle folk stuff like that. We had the fights at the palaces But it was there some fights or straight-up fights. No, maybe a knife might get pulled the worst of those days Yeah, yeah, nobody pulling guns try shoot somebody. No, no, it was all love back there We had a thing called Juneteenth with Juneteenth day Right be outside to like two in the morning selling your product I think getting money everybody walking down the street playing music. So Milwaukee was real great back Dean Did you have a lot of police harassment? No, I mean, no, not really. I mean police are gonna be police Okay, they don't fuck who they fuck with but it was like it was like today You know, we had a couple crooked cops from the town all the drug does is be scared But you know to today's Milwaukee is totally different. It's a murder in town We know for some shit called like the key of boys to the cars and Murders every day. It's really rough now, you know, are you an only child? No, I got a Well, my mother got two brothers and a sister, you know, rest in peace with my brother Rara who's played fool character and trust nobody. Oh wow outside Stephanie Pee Wee, you know, it's just a tiny who pass but Yeah, that's in peace. I'm the oldest of my mother children. Oh, okay And your father he was not in the household while you were going Yeah, yeah, you know someone prayers up to my father too right now. He's a hospital fight for his life Oh, wow prayers good. What's his name? X. Actually, he's in trust nobody one and two Oh, yeah, what did he play? Which party part of what he's easy isn't it in jail with gravy first walk past To keep keep safe young man. Uh-huh part two. He's playing a preacher You know what I told him when I was watching part two Why does your dad resemble her they look like I bet you that's what I say what I say was a rose of stone No, hey, I ain't fun I assisted till my sister Stephanie till I was 21. Oh, he's always had a daughter out in New Jersey, New York You know, we actually did you know loving them now, but they may have 21 so y'all have say your dad you and your dad had a great Have a great relationship. Yeah, you know, you know, he's in our jail a lot But the times he was he was there. He taught me how to be a man You know, you're talking about your hustling. Oh, I was like Having something for yourself, you know Actually, you know say my life tell me how to how the driver license are very important I can say your life doing the right things keep yourself in order if you want to do anything wrong Learn the laws, you know, they tell me how to be a man. You know, tell me how not to cry like oh Petty stuff. Yeah, maybe the man I am today. So that's me. That's me That's big and I'm gonna say this man like you you talented bro to even do what you've done And to create these vibe for us. We appreciate it like How long did it take you like to like write out, you know, I mean the whole movie from the finish to the end I like I say what I want to do that first wrote it. I kind of like How do my movies is I kind of like beginning The plot the end. Okay, rest you feel it so don't take me like I wrote a movie with like a Sometimes two weeks really days. Yeah, I gotta help to now like I write I write the stories I either put them on a tape recorder and I got my my got my team So I guess shout out to you to you to Joseph I love Jonas Joseph wrote with me on part one part two And something else is already talked about So she wrote with those with me I'm a partner called Charles Burgess. He's a come the story teller. He does a lot of books We did a movie. I got caught unfair exchange. Okay, so we wrote that He wrote majority of I wrote the ending of it changed it up. Yeah, I got a partner called mr. Galena They called him a mr. Galena for like that. We got we got one card between thin lunch and guy in the game You know, I mean, they mean job. I got one called What's the big we got a comedy everybody talking about the hole in the wall So we like so if my god, baby drew gave you the ideal Me and job being a lot of we wrote it. Okay, even though we shouldn't have wrote it We was gonna sit there nobody father goddamn script But we wrote some but yeah, so it takes me anywhere from like I'm gonna say two three weeks to most I ain't going over 45 days from the script. Yeah, you get where do you get an inspiration for your stories from? Mostly real life real life somebody So I like I like movies too so I can see something or read something and give me idea No, but when you get these ideas from something like from somebody's life that you know Can you know some people be like you you have to keep it you can't put make it too true So to say because you don't want not somebody give me a calm back, bro Uh-uh, don't mean don't they gonna know it's me you talking about don't do that. I haven't happened before. So yeah Oh, you have yeah, yeah, especially trust nobody Exactly, just nobody won. Oh, wow about the real estate. I probably can't close the right. Yeah, really this that See that way. Yeah, yeah, my life life. I was around So yeah, cuz I tell him all the time a lot of time when I talk about things I love to watch movies and I learn a lot from movies and when I tell him He's like stop living in movies. I'm like, but where you think we get they get these ideas from his reality It's real life. It's like training day. You think training day was just made up. We're good, too Yeah, it's a cricket council real. I did very much Gang so right Yes, it's true There's every movie Not the alien movies or something some kind of you know, you know, it may probably some far fetch But it's gotta be come for some how do you draw from like getting the like your cast together on these movies? How hard is it to pull those people the right people? Yeah, the right people. Um, I write it first Sometimes you can see somebody that you might want in the film. Okay, and it help you kind of write for them They eat that character to to their best Attitude or how they act their best ability to get out of them like this guy is funny So I want to write funny something funny. This guy looks like he's a killer So I want to make him a killer so but uh like gravy to get him to play bricks Everybody thought it maybe came from the notorious, but he didn't yeah, I see the notorious. I thought he was great in that Yeah, he made you feel biggie, but then what they didn't will catch me. He caught me in barbershop Looks like you're on the wrong side of town, nigga Oh, this whole city is mine. These are my block when he played the game I didn't even talk to him about that man. Yeah Barbershop, that's what that's what made you chicken but the part the crazy part about it cuz grab guy So great man. I love guy is that I seen that I like man. I'm good to have a minute, right? So a friend of mine's named D Rose up in Appleton, Wisconsin. He called me because you know I do parties He's a Steve I'm doing a party up in the Appleton Maybe when the partner with me on then break it to Milwaukee who you bring it bring it tomorrow We'll do the play biggie. I'm like cool. You know I'm saying so we did it We go to Appleton the party and do too good. So gravy driving back with me We just talk and chop it up. We just came real cool You know me like real real niggas shit real talk and so me been this time. Hey, man I'm doing this movie right now. I think you put you in this row. He says shit I'm with it. Get the bag. Let's go and we've been jamming since Great dude That's big man to build a relationship that we talked about it earlier like how big is Relationships when you're doing stuff like this when it comes down to projects real big man like like I said I managed Boosie and I managed you but I've been his manager with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that So knowing him and we on the road meeting other people and just doing all these parties I did a lot of NBA part with a bronze James Damian Jones Sam Cassell. So being in that world. I get to meet a lot of people and I say my favorites, you know It's big, you know, now you believe it with a Fabboy SSE. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know who he was when I met him believe it or not I met him in New Jersey with Boosie was doing a cologne deal. He wanted me boosted so he showed up Okay, and his energy right there. So energy. I was like, man He made a good role because my brother so much like he make a good person for this role and then why would you look? You know, she got social media. Yeah, I know that sometimes I got workman. It's crazy But um, so when you're selecting someone to act There is it very important for them to actually have acting Skills before or it doesn't matter. I give everybody tag you a lot of people chances, man Like the beautiful lady Bianca Starr. I met her when I moved to Atlanta We try you know, we try to go on the voice kind I knew the people that own the voice and I try to take it if auditions and we came real cool And on this road came up for the one of the roles. I knew she was a star already singing I'm gonna put on these on these big lights may help her out of her singing career Yeah, that was her song in that movie wasn't in her part because I heard that part of it. I bet you that's her Yeah, it was a part to you. She also had the theme song her and gravy together cause trust about it at the end Really, that's her and gravy together. Okay. So when um, so people like that in a lot of my hometown people can always Respect and support Milwaukee. So a lot of them people that I see something in them I gave them a chance and they never had to act before Shea Johnson, you know, it's from a hometown. I said years before what I do this movie I'm gonna put you in it because you because you represent the hometown you got on TV But I want I want I want to put the lights on right. I mean your love and hip-hop and Flavor of love stuff like that. They show you in one way. I want to show your true talent And that's why I put it in trust nobody won So that's your question like and it always doubt I prefer that somebody with some acting field acting skills Because you want to it'd be easier. Yeah, but I said, but you know, I I believe in people to try Well, do when you kill them out in the first one like how is that like with bringing them back you can bring it back as a ghost That's the road you got But you can bring it back as a ghost if you're nice No, I just I just know that dealing with people and picking people and building these relationships You have to have a certain chemistry to even be able to deal with that You know what I mean and and knowing that that's gonna be the person for that role. That's a gift in itself, right? So it's like a lot of those are key factors and key elements that you see that seems seamless when you're watching the film But I know for you it becomes a thing to where you got to think it through properly or so you can make a break you, right? Yeah, and when writing the you said in the beginning you do the beginning Then you do the plot and then you do the ending how important it is because some movies You know some movies start off slow and then you want to switch it How important it is to grab the audience's attention in the beginning very important in today's world You know our attention stand nowadays are like if you don't give them first 40 seconds They can flick it to the next movie. Yeah. Yeah, they only Instagram all day just rolling and rolling and rolling So you got to give them like this. Yeah, anybody sitting around waiting for the plot nowadays Yeah, that's very important. I tell everybody the right movies like man. You better get them fast Yeah, if you see all my movies on in the beginning, I'm catching the beginning. Oh, yeah, you you bang it out there Because a lot of times people who write usually make some sort of cameo in their own movies So I was out of looking to see if you were gonna be Singleton John Singleton would do that I got after April Hitchcock ever Hitchcock as well. I got it from he's all this movie He'll be sitting at the bar or he'll do some weird stuff. So I saw I'm gonna do that So I'm gonna love periods. That's good man because that's something that your kids kids kids can see. Yeah, that's big I mean put my nephews and nieces on my movies. Oh, that's the little boys He went upstairs as my nephew wrong Romero, so I put family and best friends everybody. I think that's hard Pop that that's big right there. I wish I could see my father and mother again through a film right now I hadn't seen my mother since 96 and hadn't seen my My father since 2012 they passed on but if I had something to go back to other than a picture Yeah, because we we get so caught that was the reason I created boss talk 101 because I said, you know what? One we need to be doing this to help our people to give their story out to we need to make sure that when we leave We leave a legacy behind how better to do it then to bring you know Bring something like this together do movies to different things that people are gonna go back and watch and they can draw energy from it Dream on forever Yeah, yeah, man. That's the key lays in right now. That's a new drink big time man, so Like when it what's the next what's the next project? Right now. We've got to trust nobody to okay Amazon Prime. I got it to be June 23rd I was going to to be yeah, but then I'm gonna drop the hole in the wall, which is a funny funny comic. It's gonna bring Who's in it? We got a lot of comedians such as we got baby Drew who's a big rapper out of Milwaukee. He's on Universal for a minute Comedian wives got Kelly Kells Jesse McDonald's Peace for one for bank head he was in there. Yeah, he's in there We have a man got Detroit Barbie Shelby. I got a little mama. I got my man Ranji. I got a So it's really fun. I got a question for you like jiggle Jackson How do you like if somebody have anybody ever passed while you were doing the film and you had to figure out a way to keep the Film going I've been out yet. Okay, cuz that happens with a couple of people And it was like dang even like fast and furious Paul Walker. Yeah, but my boy, you know, missy He was doing right during the filming Like like missy mode 3 he passed away during that, you know, why when he was filming that and he had to you know Figure it out after that. You got to figure out what you're gonna do kind of like when Jamie, you know They say they start showing that standing double like it's crazy, but these are things that happen That's the reason I brought it up because these are life-changing situations for the whole cast people You've been working with the mood of the film might change at that point which Because it's like it's a lot man, and then you got big budgets behind these films and it's like you got to figure it out Yeah, you gotta figure it out. So starting out What was the name of the first film you did? Trustable is the first one. Oh, that is the first one. So With somebody like watching this show a kid because nowadays cuz growing up I never thought that's a regular person could get up and try to be a filmmaker, right? It just didn't seem possible. I used to think that it was all these big companies big corporations Just even like actors growing up and seeing actors on screen Growing up is always big name big people. I never saw you know back then it wasn't no to be or no, you know You know avenues for us, you know, all the Majors locked us out, but now independent world just like these podcasts. That's why I love it No, it's like it's only it you only can see this on this kind of stuff on radio, you know But now y'all things y'all doing is great giving us outlets to avoid stories our voices out and like I said I got your shots out to my man swift from swift motion pictures who was the first one in my town I've been wrote my movie. We hooked up. I had this book deal. He was doing a book He's I still wanted to try to shoot my movie come check it out, but I get to make it to this first one Yeah circumstances, so He kept telling me like man, you got to go and do this movie do it do us. I'm gonna do it I'll be right right. So he did circumstances to in Milwaukee. Yeah, man. Just come on the sets Yeah, I want to set I got to meet the great BZ Jones I'm a director and I'm busy at this crew with Tina and Zeke and cheese I met the whole cast that I said I'm a quick learner and I set back and I watched the process I'll say shit. I can do this. Yeah. Yeah for the music record. I can do this for show and they all tell you I'm a quick learner and I bought a lot of experience to the world and so them guys really got me really just Give me that in a range in a range How how Was it cheapest and what's the most expensive for a person starting out don't have a lot of money That they can you know creative feel creative film I might have been around 150 because of talent that I bring in You fly people in you house them you feed them And all those other extra stuff you got put into it besides the promotion you get in what you put out Yeah, but you get out what you put in exactly by season people choose to move from like 20,000 10,000 20,000 The guys from the people people on I think they said only spent the like 10 or 15,000 good But they got their own cameras their own crew maybe their own friends Like I said, it all depends on you if you got your let's say just say if you're a student at a school You get all the people together. Hey man, let's shoot a movie like you do the camera work I'm gonna do the grid you're gonna do this we in school Anyways, you might get done about 10 15,000 get your good movie Access all the equipment but I would think that it would be very important This is what you want to do for the rest of your life That for you to invest in getting the cameras getting you know certain camera man because you know people fall off So even that camera man that you have might not be the camera man You have the next four or five years, but at least you still have the equipment You can get somebody else to work that equipment. Well, that's that's what I do. I've invested myself all my phone props props I'm sorry Cameras, I've been learning how to edit myself, you know, I've been practicing Messing around with you, you know, so I think it's about trying to learn. Yeah, yeah, I've been learning how to direct I've been direct. I'm co-director on all my films. Oh, so I mean No, I love it because be easy is a great teacher. So be easy gonna sit show them and I'm watching I like they like this last film I did they taught me now how the process go I used to be the mess of our fuck-up all the times be like sticks Because everything means so no, so I know now you guys say, uh, you know sound roll. Do you guys say cameras roll? They say so the right turn. I wouldn't have a new known all that I was shooting like if you ever seen the Andy Murphy movie my dole of Mike to make it a dough I really said, uh, we'll know nothing about this shit. I'm just trying to shoot a movie So I was shooting the movie, but they've been teaching me the right terms. Okay So so who makes more a Director or the writer definitely the right the right Wait, wait, I'm gonna say that the people of this is movie Because because you know sometimes you can write a movie sell the script and you put on the director director So if you write it and it is your movie then you make oh, you definitely are okay That's one up because you know people want to know what avenue to start out first, okay? You can make more over there if I have the skills to write Money You always ain't gotta be the writer or the producer or the film is so much money You can make in there like being a grit man You know I'm saying when you set up to set the lights and things like that make good money Yeah, you can be the editor, you know You can be the DA that the person behind the scene who's who dumps the film and you know You can be just help it on the set you make some good money per day So you can make money just like in the rat world, you know everybody think to be a rapper Fuck the rapper part. I would be the manager But how many people do you need to create other than the actors? Behind the scenes because you call a lot of different Titles just now. How many people do you need to film a movie? So we're kind of moving like an independent movie. Yeah, I want to say shoot with two cameras I'm gonna say you're gonna need at least you get a sound man only at least Six people six people to shoot small independent Lights so small so sound lights cameras to camera man. You have your Set on the set. You know, you have an AD a person AD so AD is assistant director She kind of sets everything up for the director kind to do you have to have an assistant director? Okay Take a lot off you trust me. Okay. That's a very important person on the set Okay, you know, yeah, like I said the DI person who actually dumps your footage. So I got person Take care of your footage of the next day when you come you can see how your film looking It's kind of partially edited you might forget what person war just this day because this scene I got to go to the scene you forget so you go all yellow the black outfits I'll go get that black outfit again. You need the wardrobe person Take care of the wardrobe. We'll try to make a person the hair person. Oh, yes. I'm gonna say about 10 I Go ahead. What was so important about trust? Nobody part one where you felt like man, I gotta do a part two audience The audience that's what it was man. I'm gonna tell you came actually came from the book When I wrote this book and uh, yeah, I put it out Actually, it was a movie read a movie first turned to a book. Hmm. This is my ma'am job. You did opposite Yeah, I wrote them. I wrote I was ready to move that we're right a damn book Oh, my man child Burgess like maybe he'll be putting in a book man. It's a good story So put in a book. So I'm getting the book out and two things happening to me It's older lady. I was in a bar selling my book I'm selling like crazy and she's about 50 some 60 She's everyone read books like this because she bought it took it home I ran back into a couple weeks later. She was like I was reading your book at first I'm like I'll read books like y'all gonna put it down. She said, oh, let me give you more chance She read a little bit more. She said I couldn't put this motherfucker down She told me that she missed the great book like Donald Goins or something and then people from 14 to 70s reading this book And then my father was up in the joint and everything to join this pass the book around Everybody's getting mad Man, British ain't going like that. Oh, no, man. It gotta be in part two, man That's that baby like dance is really so special to the book that you wrote It wasn't like the whole story. It was just still just part one for the book Was the book just part one that you wrote the book for? Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you It was supposed to be a one story one story thing just a movie on my five six pieces of paper And it's not more than that, but it had been in my papers on my little white I'll be my little yellow pad the legal path. No, that was it. Yeah, I'm supposed to be in it like a story Yeah, but God is the reason I mean how important is God when he come down to what you're doing who you are Stop playing coffee to my fear man. Come on now. I've had this also the key That's hard man where I go Let's go with me Like he's the back of what you see is like it's come from my father. He told me how to pray I was about three five between three or five years old. I'm a commemorate that video visually So you know my knees he showed me how to pray man That's a blessing and that's what I teach my kids like before we came down here It's like we got a state we stop in the house me and the family we pray we about to go on this trip We're going down here to do some work and then when we you know God bring us back to keep our heads of protection around our family These are the things that me and real men and I didn't get to tell your mom But my thing is when a person listen what's gangsta to me is taking care of your family and kids That's so much gangsta in all this other mess that we have out here bro, ma'am I'll tell you some uncle gave me the Best thing in the world. He should tell me true players play around the penitentiary Wow, so one of jail ain't slick Anybody I'm bragging about going to jail. I mean you did something stupid real stupid. You got caught doing something No, you know I'm saying I ain't saying that's wrong for you to take circumstances to feed your family I'm not promoting it, but you gotta do what you got to do But it's my way about it because bragging time I did this much time I was up in the joint run like this. You ain't even been a burden on somebody. That's right Yeah, especially like when I do my little time. I had to call the bike I say I prepare for that save a little money for I had to bother nobody and that's I'm gonna jail You're bothering people calling people run up the phone bill. They ain't gangsta That ain't get that all being a peasant, right? You that is so true And and you got to be real with yourself in order to teach the people coming behind you when you say stuff like that You know what I'm saying without you speaking it people think that they tell you everything about going to jail about prison They don't never tell you about our naked. They be getting in there. Yeah Yeah, you're yours. The truth come on now They don't tell you about you you you you you got to walk together in a line and be Denied it really it means you and make you look like really like you Unhuman they don't they take everything away and people don't really want to talk about that part That's about the real part exactly, you know, like you first go to jail your family get all excited But also so in jail I give you my jail you take a couple calls after that first Six months You become a pest if I want to talk to you on the phone about none you you know I mean you gonna set up calls and stuff, but you know you call every day for people to tie that They don't want to deal you See you money every guy there money ain't got it like that. Well, they try to live on the street You know me become a burden So you don't know you don't do that put you some money up shit for you want to bother nobody Man, I like when you look at movies man, and you sit back and you analyze a man now that you're doing them How critique how much do you critique him? A lot you see what I'm saying. I'm before you wasn't into him But now that you're doing them you like that right there, but I watch good movies for I can get better That's real like like like a little stuff like this like the boss talk cups on the table That's a promise. That's a sport in the book. That's right You said you have an empty-ass tape table me. Yeah, so I look stuff like that I look for there should be a plate it's just a food on there and the forks will be on that side and Stuff everybody starts somewhere Tyler Perry. I was just reading in an article yesterday that he purchased BT NVH 1 Like high inspirational is that when you see brothers this out here doing stuff kind of similar to where you starting now and Saying man, you know, that's something that inspired it, you know, like pretty much Taking a mental ownership is everything. Yeah, that's very important on the ship. I want my own stuff You know me so now I've been through that with the music Tyler Peer before you even bought BT I was trying to follow his blueprint as in I heard he bought that land in a land of business studio That's me. I wanted a Milwaukee and I just came from Detroit shot the TT and The one studio was saying the right her and just read got a studio up there and it's beautiful man They get their own sets Hospitals jails, I mean, they they leave it out. There's you money in the long run. It might Definitely might, you know a lot in the beginning, but in the long run Oh, just ahead of it too because you know, they don't want to rent something stuff to us like the courthouses You know jail cells stuff like that You can build like a mini hotel there so you can house all your actors and actresses right there You don't have to because sometimes it depends to me I would think that when you can gotten so big you don't want to put certain people in just a regular hotel No matter how nice the hotel is sometimes they want that piece I don't want to walk downstairs and people like oh, can I get your autograph? Can I just sometimes people just want that piece away if they get alone But now like you said, it's very smart to build your own hotels With Tyler Perry doing this great, you know, that's the level I'm trying to get on. Yeah when you look at Jamie Foxx I gotta ask you about it because that's something that's big in the news right now Um and seeing how his situation is playing out. They're very quiet about it. They're not really speaking on it Nobody's heard from Jamie Like how scary and how big is that like and health health is wealth, bro Like I said deal with my father right now and like you I heard you say in a viewing gravy that You know you hustle so hard you forget about the family values. Yes poor to take a break My auntie's male friend He told me like man Steve you gotta take three vacations for yourself. Yeah, at least least two I always take one of my wife so we always go somewhere in the summer and maybe for new years, but Sometimes I leave that phone on I went for the bag so you gotta go but now I'm more like man I really spend more time on family because at the end of the day that money people waste money all the time Lose it all the time for different investment reasons or whatever But at the end of the day the only person that can take your memory is God You know and even when he do take if you notice it People with Alzheimer's. Yes, he don't take all their memory. They remember. They remember when they were younger probably good That would be a good way to go out though. You're gonna go out like that All the good stuff. I don't want to talk about that man. I'm gonna stand next to the ice cream or something Get out of negativity of the world put in you, but it's a good time Yeah, and like like sponsorship is big like and I see you you know with tequila you you like to Okay, and and and so Like how big is that like trying to get placements in the movies that you you know do With my movie man, I try to open up to all my black designers like I cut them all the time Shots out the boss mad at my man. Okay. He uh, he and guess what he's he's mexican Waking up for my times. I put him in there. That's me. I remember here caviar Put him in there a real big Walking black on you know, I mean, uh, my man brashar. She got the mason area Closing this he always Fossil my films a guy called Joe Finn. I just use this bag a black brother out of Detroit, you have to got the nice handbag King This king Gummies that this man enhanced me right now Yeah, man, if you black on and you got some uh, there's a lot of other small Even the small people ain't big. They got like t-shirts. They've been making them. You'll see them in my films Man, I want him a shot that I see some nurses real big. I've been doing two people understand this I've been given independent artists Music in my stuff because there's a platform for you that you couldn't get nowhere That's real ready to ain't play in the big movies. They're gonna take your soundtracks But just to be world and this amazon world Is this is really a big platform that you got to look into if your artist You should be wanting to find out what movie that he is Who that producer is and finding for his next film. It's like I got a song for you I'll create a song for you hungry So how far are you going to take trust nobody too when I say how far meaning What is it you trying to get it up on when I say, you know, you got part one You got part two, but how are you going to be like a Superman, you know, Superman go up to like part whatever they are open a mob all the actors I think it's all happy to sign up about it. We're even working on the part three, you know But don't forget it. Watch part one I'm trying to hit two me yet So the world ain't even seen it yet There's a lot of people that's seen it with a lot of people happy yet, but you're gonna love There's a lot of action, but Three isn't important. Yeah, I love you can go forward. Do you have enough in the catalog to go like That's what I'm trying to figure out. Like what what does Because what determines a writer to say, okay, I got to stop it here I don't want to burn it out. So part three is called of who can you trust the final chapter? Okay, so this will be the last wow off trust nobody But I never say with no spin-offs There you go Oh, I got a series and we're serious called I am the plug. Okay. Um, I also got a series We're working on maybe me murdering in a gravy talking about time by blood Yeah, murder pain and gravy. Uh, I got a movie. I'm gonna put out called, uh A thin line between guy in the game Yeah kind of romance. Oh man. I got great romance. I got a unfair exchange as I right now with Jeremy Meeks the guy Yeah I thought it my prison baby at prison. Yeah, watch out. Yeah, don't give me the trouble to pocket But uh, we got him in there. We got Eric a picket who played the two pocket bml I got uh, Angela sierra in there sierra angeli and uh, demarkas harvey shelby Lynch and also my man. I give his first role Adrian bagger the great blues singer So all of them in this that film is a great film. They loving that Like I won't call oceans of you written by mr. Galena and it's about a young lady Uh, who's coming up. Uh, it turned out as a to the prostitution world as a As a kid, but the movie so deep is a book called ocean view to come from the book It's so deep and and and tell that, you know, I think it's gonna be a great story So I do that them kind of movie scary movies Then I also got the so-called best my so-called best friend Basically a story based on two people that came up together in their whole life So they take an assurance on each other in high school in college Yeah, but they go move to two different areas every year They uh meet up for us to some of the hangout, but this year they both fucked up and need some money So they don't think I how to kill each other So it's a comedy so Man, that's gonna be hard man. So I can't wait for that. I'll tell you man I just like I said, I just appreciate you for your independent grind, baby You know, I'm saying that's so hard because it give other people away You know what I'm saying people don't look at that everybody didn't have a way like you said earlier They were just you either would be a good nothing Right, you know what no in between like you couldn't get in the dough But you remember it was a time remember the first start This era we're doing a tiny piece of self. I love history. So history piece of self There was a moment we remember with Mike Jones and mass people put up in DVDs Yeah, I remember that movies they'll sell them in the hood Yeah, it was doing good and people coming out of film school and learning how to work them cameras But nowadays they should move with phones. So yeah Getting how you live right now. Yeah, and that because the technology is getting better and better Technology move my cousin smoking weed doing some things Called four six go out finally four six Saturday. He got this this bird called Sanders the four six Saturdays been on the news. He feed homes people you go filing checking them out He's doing a great thing with this bird And um, but he want to show me with his iPhone the things you can do with up like I'm spending $150,000. He's spending number two hours of his time Killin me Kill you with the scenes and the way that they the angles is something about a person who knows how to shoot They got an eye for it and you can't beat them. They can have a phone and you got 80 cameras It don't matter. They good at what they do Say check it man. Hey man. Thank you for coming on the show man How can people get a hold of you if they trying to get a roll man? You can follow me. It's it's it's it's just money ent on instagram Or carter or more on instagram or facebook. I believe it's steve. Oh, it's just money or steve. Oh love one or two But it's just money ent on instagram the world's smoothest Sexiest tequila ever made black on so no more support. No more patron support your own Carter more tequila All the stores vainter asked about it that support each other y'all He just don't know that that bottle going home with me today. Oh, there's definitely y'all about it y'all bother I gotta ask you a question because I thought about when you and boosie linked up like how did y'all even blink up for you to even Do the deal with him when y'all was going around doing y'all tour Uh, when me and boosie, uh, it's crazy. I met boosie back in the 90s something like 798 No, I'm in about 2000 and uh, he came out when walkie do a show I was talking to his manager at the time and uh Somehow the manager mr. Flight. This is how guy work. Wow. So boosie got in the car with me and we rode around I made him about 30 000 dollars in like three hours on verses That's when he first started be the same boosie badass. We know the day this one boosie Uh, the youngest of the camp and uh, gala stories is out. So he you know, he fucked with me, right? So he didn't go into jail though I remember when you first get out My cousin doing the devil got a son by the name of wave chappelle who was rapping with your guidance at the time There's that boosie house and boosie like there's like we from Milwaukee. I like y'all from Milwaukee, man I know stevo and that's my cousin they give him on the phone So we chopped it up, right? Now and I end up moving to Atlanta My mama mother passed so I had to move to Atlanta to come out here for a little bit And he called me over to his crib and I was talking to my god slab interview to this, uh strawberry Kiwi Vaca I take it to him right there on the spot in his front. We made a deal He said we're gonna call this shit boosie juice and we went hard in the paint We rocked it and we started selling it The people who was with didn't go too good with them. So we got back down me my man Alex got together with boosie and we went through with this company. That's what we made mccardier It's the first, uh, it's a black owned cognac And it's um, it has the first and only apple cognac Now you had crown royal as whiskey, right? This is a true Apple cognac People love that's called mccardier. It's all about boosie. So they like these other rappers. We get endorsement deal Actually, he is so support that y'all It's all through dollars right now all the stores in dallas houston. Let's go. Atlanta. Let's go. Mississippi, alabama, florida I gotta go to niggas store when I get back. Let's get it. It's gonna be a store. We are c a d i e r Cartier cognac the best cognac on the part on the on the market killing innocent man You got a gift man to uh, link people together and and to bring a different situation together, man Thank you for your contribution to our culture, man. I thank y'all man boss. I want a man. What a boss to talk to the world y'all go hey Dallas Texas houston and everybody watches trust nobody to trust nobody won't even see the first but trust somebody too It's a must see they talk about they call this like the new juice, man I didn't see it that way. I enjoyed it. Everybody fat, but like man, it's like juice. I'm like damn That's why he was acting. I'm gonna give him that much He was terrible How do you think that you said that was your brother? My brother rest in peace my brother Parts partially fools like three or people I know one of my brother raw He's uh, he was a terrorist in the town. I had to say police ended up killing him And I figured there's some undercover police on a drug they're gonna ride. They're trying to ride the police You know police was trying to I was on cricket cops. Yeah, big shoot out. He died like that My friend's like papi and a couple of the guys that were like so he's made of a Care that I really hung around and knew man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man Top three movies. I'm gonna have to get him something top three movies of all time that you yeah that you You would pick is your top three movies? I wish I would have said rappers Um On the player side, I love uh, willy dynamite. Okay, I don't like dynamite dynamite. Okay, so I love that I have to go with uh Hey, I love I'm with the movie seven in there. Okay. Okay. That's a good move. Yeah It's a good movie And then uh last and final one. Yeah I like old school go ahead It could be a richer problem. I love rich problem busting loose. I love busting. I love moving Yes Anybody from rich prior. I just love Check it man. Thank you so much for coming on the show man. We love you brother We appreciate you brother and if you anytime you need us, we pull it up. Anyway, man, I appreciate y'all Get shot the king of diamond Thinking about that. Thank you. I can nearly never let us enjoy that Boss talk character Atlanta just to mess with us, but I appreciate that a lot. That's real man And that's the way we're gonna keep doing it. We're gonna pull up We're gonna show out And McCarty and king of diamonds y'all too So I can nearly reorder Man, check it man. Hey, man It's been another great segment of boss talk one-on-one. What a bosses talk and we appreciate it