 HBCU Dodgers Radio Dodgers after dark unfiltered and uncensored talk from young alumni of historically black colleges and universities Happy to be back in one of our final episodes of the year This will be certainly the last one of the academic year now that commencement season is upon us And a couple more surrounding the HBC awards come in August 2nd at the Reginald F Lewis Museum in downtown Baltimore, Maryland So look for information and tickets and all that good stuff coming soon August 2nd Downtown Baltimore Reginald F Lewis Museum of African-American history and culture Looking forward to seeing you all there with us tonight Winston that the mr. Michigan Detroit senator in the school senator in the school Winston KD my dear brother and then or is the Morganite and then tiff about to get down off the show. So So Because this is a recap of the academic year and All the positive and all the negative that has happened throughout the year So we're gonna go down the line and talk about some of the things that really stood out to us This is a departure from what Tiffany recommended, which was everybody ran for 20 minutes About what makes them out that was vetoed Wow No, I Texas I Texas that if y'all do that, I'm I'm not I'm not dialing in but I like it on Facebook Also say, you know what? So And we're gonna try to do this we're gonna try to do this without some of the obvious ones like Robert Smith paying off everybody's loans at Morehouse and Beyonce a Coachella Those are very easy But we're gonna try to get into some things that we we thought were very helpful to the culture and Very damaging to the culture over the this the 1819 academic year I will I would like to go you want to go first. Okay? Okay, you better not say some lame Yikes Anyways, so what I would like to say Or what I think is the best thing that's happened in this academic year is The amount of collective giving Particularly from a k.a. Oh That whole yeah, I know and that whole And that whole target one campaign That that was amazing to watch. Also, I guess honorable mention to Omega sci-fi they just recently gave what a hundred something K To HBC use but I say that to say as one of the the number one things that I think about, you know for everybody who is looking at What Robert Smith did or And in particular saying that, you know, I just wish schools would appreciate the smaller gifts Like you're you talk a lot of junk about me being altruistic and how that's a problem But at the same time if you have it within yourself to appreciate what you can do Then you should be given anyways because at the end of the day the Lord loves a cheerful giver So if you don't know if nobody else outside yourself is going to appreciate what it is that you do and what you can do That's something that I think we need to say to ourselves as we're giving to our schools are giving to institutions like TMCF or UNCF to make the dream work. So That's all I got. I think that's fantastic because it really speaks to not just national organizations like a k and and Omega but that those numbers are reflective of a bunch of individuals giving and they give at least a k a does they give recognition to people who are meeting the The the target one thing or helping the chapters at least meet the target one specification so outside of the giving part the monetary giving if you're helping them to facilitate college fairs or Workshops around HBC use in the community then you get recognition that way too So it is actually more than just money There's that's instead of work gonna be going but definitely Katie you said you did not have a topic you do your own chapter had a really strong showing I was about to say well, thank you. I didn't have one as we Get on my nerves. This is my turn though. It's your turn As a computer science major from Copham State University and I'm continuing my education at a non HBCU that we don't have to name boo You know, it's business is business, but I am encouraged by the continued investment in STEM programs Throughout the nation. I think it's important that you know, you give everybody an opportunity To join the the join the field especially in technology And I and it's comforting to a degree saying, you know, some of the big names the top five and some smaller Individuals, you know going to HBC use directly and saying hey give us your students and we'll teach them and cultivate them and You know get them up to speed on how the field actually works. That was big that that Google West program Yes, the what was it Howard West program? I'm sorry at Google at Google. Yeah That's the one of the biggest ones and you had the the program at Boeing. They gave I think Six million dollars to a couple of HBCU's Specifically, I mean, it's been some very large dollar investments. It wasn't like a measly fifty thousand dollar scholarship Like it's seven figure investments up and down up and down the country When it's the same in the school So you you you coming into this with an unfair advantage because your program by its nature Makes a lot of HBCU news. So is this gonna be midnight Winston or is it gonna be? Larger than larger than midnight golf I'm gonna give you both okay, but all of us gonna be centered around the crib all of this Detroit related so We'll start off with with Big Sean and TMCS doing the the pitch competition. They did here in the city Flying I think it was like eight or nine different schools that they sent here to Detroit to do a pitch competition in front of Ally financials CEOs TMCS CEOs Big Sean and his organization in Detroit versus everybody As well and so we had one of our students who actually was able to participate in it as well in the competition With Alabama and then she didn't win The pitch competition, however She was she met the CEO of Ally and she got an internship as a result of introducing herself in Talking up and doing the things as you're supposed to do when you get in the room when you get a chance to get in the room So she'll be in Charlotte this summer interning with Ally financial as a result of that opportunity in her seasoning it So I'm just super excited to have them here in Detroit and have HBCUs highlighted in the city They're represented in that way and then of course have one of our own Involved in it was was super proud moment for us and for me too personally and then the other one was a gentleman Who unfortunately was not in midnight golf, but he made a national news Michael love who's elected hair still state He's from Detroit once a high school Detroit cornerstone high school here in Detroit And he chose hair still over a bunch of other schools including Arizona State University of Kansas He had 42 acceptances And shows hair still state University. So it was a lot of positive pub for HBCU then Detroit On a national level from him. So that was those were two huge things for me Selfishly centered around the crib and around Detroit Detroit bias. Absolutely. No, definitely. He's right by Or you had you had one in sports, I believe Yeah, I would just say obviously we know our biggest from a PR is always athletics So we had a really good year. I mean you have Darius Leonard who was you know defensive rookie of the year You had to recolon go first team all-pro and make a pro bowl You had Kayla white who broke a bunch of records indoor and outdoor and the 100 260 and you had Titus Howard Going the first round NFL draft and I think it just gave a lot of good publicity to the schools especially to the two major conferences the meek and the swag because Obviously, it's not We've had we've gone years without having the first round draft pick We've gone years that I'll having you know people really who we can tie directly to HBCUs in a closer way in a long time It's really like strong HBCU player, you know, Robert Mathis and Michael straight hand Those are like our last two really really all-pro Pro Bowl style football players really none and basketball and we have Kyle O'Quinn continuing to do well And they've been putting off for the schools I think it's just really good publicity because now we're getting more eyes on it We're showing that we have we do have pathways to success not just within more nine to five type careers But also in athletics So really really really big things for I think for for the two major conferences But for HBCUs in general Because it puts more eyes on our schools and maybe you got Mel Kuiper Jr talking about Alabama State and swag competition For two hours on ESPN before the draft, right, you know Nothing nothing bad can come out of that for any of our schools You know what I'm glad that you said that because it just made me realize this actually was a huge year for HBCU sports Because you had Along with what we typically do and you know March Madness and postseason with Celebration Bowl All those things you just mentioned, but this was also a year where the professional leagues were super engaged with HBCUs. They had the Obviously Chris Paul Kind of pioneering this thing where he was wearing a different HBCU shirt Jimmy Jimmy brother put off for Howard super heavy, right? My man from Boston to the young cat Tatum had on the HBCU gear Tatum Tatum is cool with Lavelle Moten from playing on Chris Paul from being cool with Harry Giles Okay, Lavelle, they all interconnected to that North Carolina in your circuit. Yep. Yep and it was also a big year of partnership with the NFL NASCAR continuing its thing with the training people to serve in the in the pit crews You had the the management program where the NFL was training people from HBCUs to get involved in sports management careers You had the NBA obviously Particularly through the players association That sponsored and put on for its second year the NBA Exclusive, I think it was SWAC and SIC combine Where people were trying out for NBA teams and auditioning for GM's and coaches So it was a it was a really big year For sports and that's not even talking about like what You know players like Katelyn Newton Who was you like it's a called turnover? The turnover machine. I mean just just just check the stats But there was there was some big names that we had coming out of the coming out of the leagues Some really good games that came one this year So it was it was actually one of the bigger years for HBCU sports And then you had to assist obviously from Virginia Union score 60 in the CIA double-aid tournament So, I mean we had some stuff this year I I'm glad you said that because I had forgotten about all that stuff and don't forget Don't forget the young lady from grandma who had the quadruple double. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right I forgot all about that the quarter did she have two of them Oh So she means it was it was a big year for It was a big year for sports I would kind of take mine from stuff that people don't think about only cuz that I got to do it Cuz I make my living doing it This was the first year in a long time if even ever That some HBCUs in some states notably West Virginia and Kentucky had Matching funding from their states to go along with their agricultural federal appropriations. This is a big deal Recently, you might have seen the article that we posted about Legislators in North Carolina talking about we don't want to give matching funding to ant because that might start a race war And long story short when the federal government gives you agricultural money The law is that the states are supposed to match it if they don't match it you have to send it back To the federal government The only way you get to keep some of your money is if you file for a waiver or an exemption Saying that the state won't give us our money. Please let us have it. So this was the first year West Virginia and Kentucky specifically said for every dollar you get We're going to we're going to match it and that did not happen before if ever And in some of those cases if it had happened it'd been a long time That's a that's a huge deal because ag funding and ag programming Is really big for hbc use particularly the 1890 hbc use but in those areas where we're training black farmers To expand their businesses To to get them caught up on supply chain to get them caught up on innovations in farming and crop preservation To get them knowledgeable about the future of hemp and hemp farming in the country These are multi-million and billion dollar industries that black people in black colleges are going to have Some entree into And that actually goes in in tandem with the you know the thing about southern university having a marijuana research facility And being able to be multi-million dollar contracts. So that was a big deal. We never had the weed episode Well, consider this the weed episode then no, I have a whole thing planned for that. No More rants or you're going to encourage people to smoke and be high Um, no don't get fired. Don't get fired There's an hbcu alum. I believe his name is I went to she might be high right now I went to middle right with hulk weisman who's the uh, she's a spellman alum She's the one that opened up the only medical marijuana in dc, right? And it's as in uh temple hills. I believe Yeah, we need to have them both. I'll get that Together. Well, apparently we need to have some my name purvis on the show Um, you know what? Doney, where about it? I'm going to tell you what it is because I produced this podcast It will go from there. Okay. Oh the same person was about to be thrown off the show and say we did And who said we need a weed episode? Um, the other the other big thing was um, the The increased uh numbers um on federal data from hbcu. So this was the first year Um, and I got to say this with a caveat federal data comes out two years behind you So if this is or because this is 2019 The federal data release on stuff like enrollment and revenue and all those kind of things is just being released this year for 2017 And this was the first year that we had in at least five years Where hbcu enrollment was up not down or we didn't lose a bunch of students. This is important for two reasons one Obviously we need more students in schools but two enrollment In total in colleges and universities across the country is going down almost on a yearly basis college enrollment Is down almost a million students every year. So for this sector of a hundred some schools as maligned as we are in the media as Terrible a pile of stereotypes as we face for students to be saying I want to go to an hbcu in greater numbers I think we were up like 5 000 students total this year or in 17 That was that was important and the other thing that went up with student enrollment was giving uh private giving and contracts To hbcu's was also up for the third consecutive year. So what you're seeing is People are interested in going to hbcu's. They're interested in giving to hbcu's And this is on The heels of a lot more dialogue and coverage about hbcu's not not all of it has been good Um, some of it has been out of context. A lot of it has actually been out of context Still following that line about, you know, our hbcu's relevant Still would have focused on crime And bad deeds being done on campus But it also seems that we're getting a lot more coverage as as or is mentioned about our sports as winston mentioned about Students from high school who are choosing hbcu's particularly high achieving students As katie mentioned The the role that hbcu's play in developing talent in our most important science and tech fields And just all around that this was just a really really Good year for hbcu's if you can believe it um I think sometimes we get so jaded and we're so used to hearing bad stuff about hbcu's That you can you can miss the fact this was a this was an amazing year Would anybody disagree with it? No, I think I mean even something that's still kind of We thought was amazing. It's still in you know, the whole beneficiary. I mean, but the defeat was still Honorable and amazing and even just leading with that if that was a low point I mean, based on we don't know the outcome of that at this stage But still that if that's the low ball and absolutely it was a Pretty amazing year. Like I said, even athletically academically across the board And that's something we're going to get into some of the lowlights from the year. Um, we're going to can't wait We're going to see if our scott can't wait James and james amas resurfaces in the next in the next segment, but we'll be right back that just at the dark Not just at the dark and we're back doing a year in or at least an academic year in recap of the best and worst of hbcu community over the 18 19 academic year We just wrapped up our segment on the best and now we're going to get into some of the lowlights. So um midnight winston you uh You're getting ready to stab me through my heart. Um, no, don't tell Are you telling me not to do it? No, go ahead. Just say man. I believe in free speech I just I just want to say it's going to stab me in the heart Wow, I you know We have we have a We have a few students, you know that are that attend and recently graduates of hampton university and you know, they've expressed their displeasure with You know recent developments on campus and statues and things that were erected and recognition of people that they don't believe have the best interest and or The nature of which their university was established at heart um, and you know, they kind of expressed that uh That displeasure um and also with you know, the their their president at times are not agreeing with I guess the directions or choices that are made Um, you know on campus and so you know for me, that was you know Just dealing with that and I'm a lot of them were calling the text of me And like can you believe this mess and with this cultural climate and erecting it now and doing these things, you know So, you know, that was kind of like for a lot of them a low mark And a few of them are are graduate, you know, just recently graduated the other day From there and still we're kind of like this is a mess my last year and this this kind of stuff is going on So I I get it man because of what the bush family represents in particularly to black folks um It was interesting to me because that whole george bush statue thing coincided with the silent sam thing down at UNC And I racked my brain for a minute trying to draw Parallels between black folks hating a george bush statue going up And black folks wanting the silent sam statue to come down um And I just couldn't I couldn't make the fit Um because silent sam was a clearly antagonistic Figure to us to black people And george bush is an antagonist But he's also somebody who Gave some money to to hbc's now I think what what we're going to find is that you know in the age of trump History unexpectedly has been very kind to the bushes Because if you thought they were bad You you didn't know the definition of bad till we got to 2016. Um, but then um Trump has been a productive president for hbc use so history always has this cruel way of People of revealing people's complexity Like you you can screw us on one end and you can help us on another so how do we how do we define you? And more specifically how does an hbc which is an academic institution like anywhere else and they put up statues of people all over the place How do we reconcile some of those key figures? in our you know in our institutional histories it's It's a it's a tough call man Are you saying Morgan's gonna have a donald trump statue one day? Is that what you're trying to do? You know what man? I don't think wilson would do that um That I will credit him that he will not he would he's politically savvy enough not to do that What I would not be surprised Is if somebody from his administration Appeared on our campus at some point interested I don't think it would be somebody like a crazy like betsy devos or something like that right or um Ben Carson somebody who's clearly divisive But I wouldn't be surprised if somebody if somebody from the administration, you know somebody weird like the secretary of energy or something came to campus and that and that and that would be just as um Worthy of dismissal because one it's a person who was appointed by trump and two is somebody who probably shares trump's values Right, you know, I mean unless it was somebody like a like a general who who resigned or somebody who resigned saying I don't agree with this man on this Maybe then you know like rex till us and maybe Um, right, but I would not be surprised if somebody from the admin came um, or as you Would you agree with that as a morgan man or? No, I would agree. I don't think that students would be as upset. I never get it and you a couple years ago they had um One of the republican like he's like the florida department of like and a public department of agricultural head or whatever spoke at commencement The students weren't like super happy, but they weren't like it wasn't a bunch of uproar And I feel like wilson would do the type of stuff and again, I would say I don't necessarily disagree with it I think that it actually can be beneficial to find people who are not as um How can I put this divisive people who aren't you know flash points? And have them in it it builds some bridges Especially because as we all know it's a very large chance. He's on win re-election. So I think that people who are politically savvy understand this that looking at the numbers right now He's in a good position to get re-elected. So because of that it would be in our best interest to not totally close the door just yet um Was wait till november of next year um Because again, it's a very large chance that that he could get re-elected in this current climate So let's go into your low light to the year So do you want me to do two? Let me just do one. You do whatever you want to do, brother So, of course, the biggest lot of the year was the interim president Uh, kevin james at morris brown college Wait a minute Take her take her topic rubber I'll let tiffani finish You can't kick him out two episodes in a row I'll let you She absolutely can Y'all do that test her And get your second one out. Why are you so close to the mic Katie? He's gracious. He sounds like a radio He got a high quality mic. That's what it is But no, I'll say this I feel like Mm-hmm Number two then behind him obviously talked about last week is uh, former North Carolina central chancellor former family president current vice chancellor of the southern university system james I'm just gonna drag him through three campuses. I mean he dragged us so So, I mean after being embroiled in controversy at two other campuses He's a controversy again We don't have we haven't had any updates in the last week or so based on the most recent ruling that uh, Southern did violate some laws and the way they fired and handled information Coming out of the grade scandal Um, so I mean another low life. I mean, I don't understand how Um, he continues to be covered in controversy I don't understand why there isn't someone in compliance because they wouldn't keep him in checking any schools either Um, and if happening at southern just kind of adds more to the fire because they had a lot of Controversial things as well. Just like am you does in many cases, unfortunately, so definitely james ammons Um, hopefully, you know southern continues to prevail Um, but it doesn't look good right now based on what you know, the people are saying Um, but yeah, I just hope that he continues to get this heat and get this smoke and no one's gonna bring it I will I Didn't he says you really cut people off go ahead and talk about morris brown I did not really cut him off He tried to steal my thunder now I would like to remind us all that last year, you know at the Right before the beginning of this academic year I went to a local morris brown college alumni association meeting back when I was still living in detroit Partly because I was confused and a little shook that There was a meeting happening So I went to go see what could be seen and at that meeting I learned that they were still out actively recruiting Students to attend morris brown college and that they had a quote presidential scholar in her freshman year at morris brown college And so I say that to say the low light is that morris brown college is still Open even though they've been unaccredited for 17 18 years at this point. They're still actively recruiting clearly and It just it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me and I've said repeatedly that morris brown needs to um Not exist as a school anymore. Maybe be changed into something else um, but definitely That young lady should be at the end of her freshman year. I do need to catch up with her to see if She's about to change her mind, but the thing about her situation is She had a good gp. I think if I go back in my dms Around the 3.0 plus graduating from high school decent sat score She could have gone elsewhere Could have probably got money from from elsewhere um, but she's first gen and morris brown was the only place that actively recruited her that Made an effort to begin a relationship with her and her parents So they thought that that was a good idea to send her to morris brown Now that says a lot about the state of schools in and around detroit as to why guidance counselors would even allow morris browns to come in That's a whole other thing but that that is actually Very interesting like when when I think about the entirety of her situation And how some things are actually preventable because those credits that she earning What are you gonna transfer to nowhere? And and and you better have some smoke for your man ducking interviews like Yes, you you better have some smoke for this man talking about going online going on the radio We've been unaccredited for a few years Right because on the thread home girl really tried to get with me But that's when I was still had had digest as a client. So I couldn't you know pop off, but That's really crazy. You said what you said as the president You you're not gonna you're not gonna have no interviews. Watch me work. It's been how many months Bro, even the bro This man said a few years. They've been unaccredited. It's been 17 bro These fools already My twin brothers are 18. They just turned 18 two months ago. Yeah, come on. They've been unaccredited since oh two The hottest song in america was hot in her Oh man, shout out to taylor Shout out to taylor He's going to vote nely in here. Oh my god Katie do you have one? I guess on a more personal note, um Uh, uh cop in state university's president had to step down because she was sick So it's not necessarily a knock on cop and just unfortunate that we didn't have her for very long I really believed in her direction and her leadership and the way she wanted to You know push the campus forward but now we're back in this loop where we got to find the new president And that's always a hard conversation to have in general, but we're not unique in that either So I guess it's a little disappointing to see the spad of um hbcu presidents be dismissed this year You actually I was going to say you stole mine or one of mine because I was going to talk about In each of the last three years three of marillons for hbcu presidents have either retired or said we're we're leaving Um, you know and and that that is not a good look For the prospects of the lawsuit Um, which got extended again, um, which is also a low light The only one to stay you don't like the only one who stayed is working with the state. Um There's an agent and a man. Dave Wilson's an agent and a man. I said it Um, oh my god I mean, he'll listen to this podcast anyway, so it's fine. Oh, he's going to no So i'm not going to drop it on him as soon as they heard me say david wilson is an agent of the man But But that that is that is Ultimately disrupted three presidents of three h state hbcu's leaving in a span of three years Um, that's new leadership coming in. That's new administration coming in. That's new vision coming in And then on top of that you had to mess with the university system of marillon The chancellor is going to leave they had a football player die Um, you know, they had they had ethic issues So all of those things trickled down to affect the way that the hbcu's operate that was definitely A low light and I don't and what was lower is that the alumni and the faculty didn't really make any noise about it How you gonna have three players in one system leave? You only got four. Yeah, they were definitely silent They said nothing. So that was that was a low light. I think the biggest low light to me Was um the situation in georgia Where the black lawmakers put forward that that bill That said they wanted to rename or reconstitute fort valley state albany state and savannah state into the georgia an m university system um On its face I don't think that the idea was was bad because I think that there if you do it the right way you may be able to insulate Those three hbcu's from put some from some potential and real harm from the state lied Then now we got to get to the low light part. First of all, you wanted to name the proposed system after the the jones on the quad Which was I found reprehensible if the One because I found the show reprehensible but two you didn't you couldn't come up with something better Then what what they did on the bet's the quad What Let's say you don't run into a copyright infringement issue trying to copy the name of that school right why George a and m. I mean it's catchy against the people going, you know Wow, and on top of that if you're gonna do that the only Agricultural school out of those three is fort valley. The one that's in the worst condition So what you're basically saying is we're gonna merge all of these into into fort valley to make it a land grant school Because that's what a and m would mean that it's a land it's a land grant school So I don't even think they thought that far. I don't think that they did their homework And then to get to katie's point didn't they lied and said well, this isn't a bill Y'all knows made me curse That was this old in terms of schoolhouse rock actually didn't memorize or understand anything I'm just like I'm just It says a bill That it was not a bill. Why are you gonna it said bill in the title? We're we're misunderstanding clearly, but that's what made it such a lowlight Because in the age of trump again People are lying and it's who are you fooling? This clearly says bill it's on your legislative bill search It's still currently on there It's still moving through legislature for next year. That was a bill So just I may forgot about it. Just because you got caught doesn't mean it wasn't a bill Just kidding. Just kidding And then in the in the defense of it it became clear That they had a plan that their intentions were good. They wanted to do something so that they could save those schools Because georgia is moving on them very quickly They've already merged Several white schools close to those black schools that are taking their enrollment every single year So I don't I don't fault the legislators for doing that. They did not do their homework And then when they got when it became public notice They they tried to lie their way out of it had to retract the lie And then never advanced any kind of I guess language that would suggest here is why it's beneficial. All you did was just say, oh, it's not a bill Yeah, it's a bill, but I took my name off Well, why are we all studying that in the first place? Why can't we talk about that? Why can't we talk about a Thing that people can get behind rather than georgia and m university Like the damn quad That that to me was that was the there are a lot of crazy things that happened this year But that was the worst because that was black folks lying about hbc use And they and it became clear that they had no nuanced understanding of what they were doing or what they were supposed to be doing and that was that was highly disappointing highly disappointing so, I mean Yeah, I've almost cursed twice in this segment. So we're going to get off this Um, and when we come back, we're going to give our high and low lights from actually digest at the dark Which should be very interesting Wait, wait, wait. No, no Digest at the dark and we're back uh recapping the highlights and low lights of the academic year within the hbcu community um, now we're going to shift slightly to A whole bunch of inside jokes likely um and talk about some of the highlights and lowlights of our HBC digest slash digest at the dark community. So A lot of you guys who listen and have shared this Are part of our group chat Well, we built a lot of strong alliances and relationships and we talk every day about policy about pop culture about Lifestyle, and I'm I'm really grateful to everybody who's a part of that Everybody who's a part of it because they sponsor The digest as a subscriber Everybody who was opted in because they really enjoyed digest content and the dialogue. Thank you so much um, if we had time I read the whole list of the names in the group chat, but I don't know if it ain't got short today. Yeah, we're not doing yet That was actually I let's start there. So katie. What did you think about that? Because tiff Purge is a good 20 percent of the group today So when I asked the question, I wasn't doing it to be me and a spy for I just want to Know Like you know, like if y'all gonna be a part of the community like come on chime in I'm trying to learn something Um, so if we took that as the golden opportunity to say, you know what your silence means that you don't really care for us For anybody who watches game of thrones, it almost looked like The second and last episode, uh, I was just leaving it at that. Um That was bro. I was wrong. It really you do got to participate. We depend on each other to to bring in news start dialogue And disagreement in some cases so that we can have a better understanding standing of a lot of topics in the hbcu community. Um tiff you did the purge so Obviously you you were bored today feeling cute um Did you did you set out? Did you think that was part of the plan or you just reacted today? We are not about to act like this was my first purge because it was not no it was the biggest It wasn't the biggest you threw out some alphas that had to be rescinded Alpha that had to be rescinded. I thought she threw out Jordan. I thought she'd do Jordan now. No, she didn't go Okay, all right. I know she's exactly she threw matt out unacceptable and I and I said I said is this an alpha who's not said a word here? He's working I don't care. He works for harvey Hmm He's working as I was about to say constantly working That's fine as I was about to say um At the point that I decided to purge people I was sitting at my desk ready to leave, but I could not yet leave That's when I hopped in a chat. Katie said when you say I said, oh, I got 15 minutes of spare Bro, she did that without gort I'm just gonna throw that out to that pay attention Hmm Well, I can speak to another low light. So several of y'all Midnight Winston Winston's into the school and tiff are still waiting for um, hbc advocate sweatshirts that have not yet arrived No, I asked for it for the record. I don't have one either. That is also that is a low light. Um, for sure Winston got the wrong shirt tiff didn't get one at all and that's just me. That's just me trolling her on exit bro I've known them We pledged together. I don't have a shirt Bro So Winston, would you say that that was your that was your low light of of being in the digest community? Um, that was yeah, I mean, there's there's few and far between. I don't you know Lowlights in hg digest community are low for me. The only other thing I would say is just I'm annoyed with the continued conversation of pwi versus hbcu on social media That's just like that's low. I'm just like really tired of Of the conversation. So it's interesting that that when you have Because here's the way I see it. Most people are I think are ambivalent about it I think that they have their preferences, but they're not willing to say To hell with everybody who doesn't go to an hbcu Right, but so we're really talking about the comments the conversation is shaped by the lunatic fringe, right? Yeah, you know, so but you're somebody who And a lot of people are like this they attended pwis, but they are strong hbcu advocates So when this conversation pops off like where do you do you chime in and what do you say? You know good and well, I am on the side of other people I'm like before you go popping off about what what's what what is your experience with hbc and general What do you know about them? What please tell me about and do you say anything about you want to go to school more diversity than the conversation That's ended at that point because you clearly are not educated on the options and what they are Yeah, it's always say I always say when that diversity word comes up because I hate it Regarding colleges. I say um You want intersectionalism you don't want diversity, right? Right, you just want you want to be in a place where there are pockets of different people not mingle together You just want to you want to rack a pocket. No doubt You know, I mean you want to go you want to sit at your table in the cave You don't want an old cast to yourself. You want your table You want your dorm you want your professors. I mean, and there's no shade if that's what you like I mean, but Like i'm strong parker and dear white people I was gonna say my reaction is usually like drake, you know, I mean like Just don't come for that don't come for us people because people like to paint black people with one broad brush But I swear to god there's more than one type black person. Oh my gosh But when even and and that is very true, but at the end of the day, I think all of us Want and don't want a few of the same things no matter where we are and what our interests are We don't want racism in our lives and we don't want it around us Right and we don't want to be judged outside of our merit Like what we're able to do and what we have the opportunity to do So if you think about it in those two realms Which of these places has better served your interest considering That At most pwy's even that the school can be totally liberal and totally down for black people You can't control every person on that campus. You can't control every faculty member. You can't control every student Can't control every police officer So what what what are you aiming for? I have a low light low low light to share actually Um, it's gonna be good A lot of people Got away with a lot of things with me Particularly because you to shrimp me No, ain't no shrimp me. Okay Particularly because digest was my client and so And that's another thing people don't understand like The relationship is different like I don't work for Jared Jared was my client. That's different But anyways And so a lot of people got a got away with a lot of things um with me and With that being said having a lot of private conversations slash arguments with jared about some of these negroes um And it's at this point like yeah, y'all got the last word, but I definitely got the last laugh. Did you? Yeah, how'd you get the last laugh? You know, I'm not gonna put them on blasts like that but You and I both know I got the last laugh and those who know know because Winston knows or it's no The daddy click knows shout out to onatae and laurel They know um So that's that's just you know my non-specific low Like to share but really is a highlight because honestly, I could have cursed a number of these people out I didn't block and people from the show or is you got you got some from the community Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. I'm not blocking nobody. I put it in the chat What's what? And when it's when it's happening if you don't often you don't often Or is the Morgan I say I'm one So I have it No, this ran is over Right she comes back but wait, there's more. There is no more the ran is over Or is what what was yours? So I I have more of a highlight. Um You know, I obviously started my digest. Um career. I guess you could say by Yeah by submitting the article and um You know, I've continued to write throughout the year which has been uh, which has been quite fulfilling So that's been my highlight being able to to write about different topics. Uh, most recently had some good dialogue Forward but a lot wrote about a wall street journal article Still have to see if we can get that journalist on she agreed to so um But yeah having that dialogue being able to have an effect on the larger scene and even though we may not see You know a bunch of comments all type of things people who matter who are influencers within the space have taken Taking note to some of the things that I've written which I appreciate um And then I think the only lowlight would be again just kind of on that same thing, you know um We live in a 140 character type of society now, especially when we talk about our schools And it's unfortunate that only bad news gets a lot of the um A lot of the information a lot of the clicks and um, it's sad that you know My uh shadiest article, I guess you could say to this day is still the one that's gotten the most um Most traction and it's unfortunate that it takes Calling somebody out or pointing out something that you know, isn't in the best interest of our our campuses Really what gets people excited and it's unfortunate because we complain about bad news, but then when there's good news We don't support it. Um And so that was that's definitely a lowlight is just continuing to see how things are but I think it's a I think it's continuously funny as people click on articles and I see they have to pay a dollar Um to really see who really is about this life in terms of supporting the sector And doing things that are going to be beneficial to the sector Um versus kind of what we've seen in the past With the the post I did about people pitching him on about paying a dollar for the digest on the nipsey hustle thing That was that was my personal like that was um I'm not even sure how to describe it like I still feel the same way But looking back at it. It's a low light because it probably could have been done uh with more conscious um Consciousness about how people would take it particularly in proximity to the brother's death Um, so that was one for the community that took a hit because you guys had to stand there and Cuts me out in a in a familial way, but at the same time publicly Stay silent. Um, or even defend me in some Perspectives, which was not a good look for to put you guys in so that was one thing the highlight was um Having on a daily basis a lot of highly educated highly interested and um Engaged brothers and sisters to talk about all of this stuff because one thing about covering the sector It is really really lonely um When you have to tell certain truths When you have to cover certain things when you get Six seven eight nine calls a day people saying we need you to do this. We need you to do that um You don't get paid for it Uh, you don't get a lot of recognition for it um The only time you get attention for your work is when you have to say something that's really uncomfortable or really, uh Really spicy, um And you're standing there in between, you know, something good happening for school or something bad Um, that gets really lonely and that's something i've been doing for 10 years and so now to have um a bunch of brothers and sisters who Are interested in it willing to talk about it talk through it With me and with each other on a daily basis makes my daily work not so lonely um, and i'm Forever grateful for that. Um, because I think it is one added life Added years to my life and two, uh, it reinvigorates Uh, my passion to do it because you know till the w and my wife will tell you a whole bunch of people said I wanted to quit this thing for years Y'all make me sick and now that that's my yeah, that actually was my screen name at one point and y'all make me sick. Um and now it's uh It's not that and so my retirement talk is is limited to probably once a week instead of six days a week. Oh So i'm grateful to you guys and thank you guys. Um for the continuing support um So that that pretty much um wraps up our our end of the year recap again Um, the next two episodes you will hear from us Are going to be the preview of the hbc awards where the final is revealed Um, there will be no weed episode Come on Give the lady what she wants Katie was the katie was a calling high. Um Yo, you know what? And they're waiting a minute Trying to job in dc fool And then we'll have the hbc. Can we do that on august 3rd? No, um, because you're not going to be Coming down from a high recording that um at the awards um So can we do a live show pre before the awards? That's what i mean. That's what i've been aiming to do I've been aiming to i was actually aiming to do that last year. It was just me and tay the hotel We didn't have it yet. You and tay were at my house. Um And we the microphones They didn't have a good set up set up place for us to do it where there wouldn't be a bad echo But perhaps in the original luis museum, there might just be a space for that like a conference room So be aware that we might have we might have a live actually I can probably get you a room. Just let me just let me know at luis museum At any of the marriott hotel downtown just we'll talk off the line Now we talk about that on the fairfield mariah Right next to the right next to the museum. So I don't know what that is As you know, I started my career downtown I can get us a A nice kind of meeting style boardroom style room at one of the three married either the renaissance the Mary the waterfront or the inner harbor I can make I can make a call today. I'm the senior sales manager as an old friend of mine I can make a call shout out to the earl gray school of business and management. Um Not and shout out to fam usbi Uh You know, it pays their brothers in high places, doesn't it? Uh, particularly those from hbc use So again, um, you will hear from us just before the hbc awards You will hear from us just after the hbc awards and then after those things we look forward to Check it in with you on social media At hbcu digest.com Make sure you subscribe on patreon. It's just a dollar a month folks Don't be out here bitching them on about the dollar a month Oh Set it again. Don't be out here. Say it with your chat. Don't I'm not gonna say what my chest again. I did that. I got a job at last time I ain't a lot of that dollar be sneak up on you. It's like Oh, that's Jared dumbass So we'll be back again, thank you so much for listening. Um, thank you for all the support of the hbcu digest again And appreciate you for listening to us on hbc digest.com and serious 142 xm radio The pride of how a university digital radio network digest at the dark