 ...evils of free market capitalism. Oi you! Shut your mouth and look at my wad! Loads of money! This is a journey into money. Loads of money. He's low to money. Me birds bites free and me cars are natter. Loads of money, shall I act as I wave my wad? And the geese is in a gatter. Shut your mouth. More money is stock, aching instead is warm and put together. Manchester United, nil. Loads of money, united. Loads. That's a part of the school there. Pump up the football, pump up the football. Sorry mate, don't take checks. Just load your money. Inequality, aristocracy. Those people has made me so to speak. Those people has made me so to speak. The state has made me so to speak. There is more to it than just this. So to speak, monarchy, private property. So to speak, inequality, aristocracy. So to speak, libertarians. Hello, I am here I promise. Alright, it's been a while since I've done a live stream hasn't it? I heard someone saying, ah you're back in chat earlier. Never officially left. Things have just been very busy and been rather distracted from making videos in case you hadn't noticed. Alright, so I'm going to get a few disclaimers out of the way before we do this. Everyone is giving their opinion and it's very painful. However, I want to let you know I'm self-aware. Who the fuck am I? Why should you care about my take on this? Yeah, you probably shouldn't. I do not take any of this to be authoritative or really very educated. I'm not a sort of an expert in this field even though that doesn't mean anything these days. So I don't want to be like a breadtuber here thinking that I'm an expert in everything. There's going to be so much more stuff that I'm yet to learn. However, I think there is a lot of stuff that I've thought which seems to be completely glossed over because people have fallen into one of two camps. The large one being, I want to say libertarians have inherited this from cathedral main street media talking points that Ukraine is some sort of fashion of freedom fighting against Adolf Putin and the new rise of Nazism. And a very, very much smaller side I've seen of I want to say dissident right but that's not fair like truly authoritarian bordering fascist right. Surprisingly a lot of Eastern Orthodox people as well supporting Putin and seeing this as him trying to rid Ukraine of degeneracy and restoring the West somehow. These extremes are absolutely not the case and also what I want to say is if you don't know what has been going on in this shaded area here for the last eight years kindly shut the fuck up. If you don't know anything about that you are not qualified to give any sort of a hot take on what has been happening. So what I'm going to go ahead and do, well yesterday aww, we're off to a good start. I don't know if I've mentioned before but that so Ed Balls is a, I think he's a former UK politician yes that's his real name and there is an iconic tweet from like 2014 or something where Ed Balls just tweeted Ed Balls. I think the context was he was trying to search for his own name and ended up tweeting it. Just the man is a meme if the name doesn't tell you enough. So yesterday I was halfway through writing a script because I was going to make a video on this trying to give a nuanced take talking about the ethics of the war you probably saw, well I don't want to say probably if you follow me on Twitter you might have seen a thread I did basically saying that this war is a very messy one in all libertarian ethics we need to determine aggressors and rightful defenders this is not that easy to do and this might be shocking to hear if one you have personal biases and I'll get to that I think it's like I don't want to dismiss any personal biases here because they do actually weigh in and two if you've only heard the last two months of Western media narrative this might be a shocking thing for you to consider but that would be if again you don't know what any of this is all about so like I say I'm going to read from my script probably about I don't know how long it's actually going to take about 10 minutes normally when I do live streams as well just to be perfectly clear on that I normally keep an eye on the chat I've realised that distracts me more than it's actually worth and I always lose my train of thought which is as I am at the grand old age of 25 now that's something that my old ass brain struggles with so yeah I'm going to read from the script add some extra thoughts because this is literally I got done halfway through writing a script hadn't proof read it or anything I thought no this by the time I've edited this added in pictures recorded it done all the post processing and the sound the war might be over and everything I say can be completely redundant because a lot of what I've had to say is we won't know until this is over we won't have too much as clear of picture anywhere near as we would like so let me just get started imagine you're just watching a normal video of mine I'm sorry if you expected it to be a bit more exciting and dynamic it will be shortly like I said it's only half a script okay right this is how it starts Russia has invaded Ukraine and while some media outlets will tell you that this has come about after weeks of posturing and failed negotiation that is not true it has come about after years of it what we're going to hear is that this is a clearly one-sided conflict in which Russia just decided to slaughter the entire population of Ukraine for absolutely no reason and well oh well yeah okay I said I haven't proof read I've got a spelling mistake here and that's already caught me off and we will hear this because the western hegemony has a huge vested interest from high sunk costs into successfully bringing Ukraine into their sphere of influence what is completely missing from this take is the context of the entire eight years that have led up to this and how this is not a new war with clear bad guys and good guys it's one that's been occurring for nearly a decade and requires many considerations what we have to do here as libertarians is determine who is the aggressor in this conflict so we can know who the innocent party is defending themselves and we shouldn't be led to this conclusion by being dragged through propaganda of either side we should assess the situation clearly and unbiasedly looking only at the actors involved their motivations, their actions and their objectives and I just want to say here as well this is a addendum to the script if you think only Russia uses propaganda this is what I tweeted about earlier we're quickly realising how few people are able to determine propaganda in war time in war time, lay-alone peacetime it's not, we might like to think that we are immune to it as the meme goes but you're really not like the people who make propaganda know what they're doing, they know how to deceive you right when Russia secretly annexed Crimea from okay, I probably would have changed the word secretly it was quite open when Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 it did so out of a claim that it was going there to protect the majority ethnically Russian population who did not want to remain part of Ukraine I believe it is a reasonable position that this was a sugarcoating and merely a convenient cover story for invading the peninsula with the primary reasons being the seizure of land and resources such as oil and natural gas which were already Russia's primary exports by a huge margin as well as the massive pre-existing port infrastructure into the Black Sea the case I really do confuse myself sometimes let me try again I spend so much time of my editing cutting out gas so I'm just going to go with it I'll no longer interrupt myself if I trip up on my tongue the case that Russia invaded out of aggression for the expropriation of resources is already very strong but then consider what the referendum options they gave the people of Crimea were remember I said the majority Russian population did not want to remain in Ukraine that means they would either want to be annexed into Russia or become their own independent state we cannot determine how many would have wanted independence as the only options they were given were to remain in Ukraine or be annexed in my mind this makes it clear that the invasion was one of aggression and expansion a very textbook example of a state fighting for resources in which libertarian ethics can give a clear and textbook analysis to determine that Russia was the aggressive party but what has happened in Ukraine since then has been very different after the annexation of Crimea other regions of Ukraine which were also majority ethnically Russian began to push for secession here is where we need to establish the fact that as libertarians we should support secessionist movements secession reduces the size and therefore power of states so it's always a good thing when a secessionist movement instead wants to add to an already large state such as the example of Scotland wanting to secede from the UK just to join the EU they in fact undermine the subjective and are not to be supported setterist parables for 80 years there have been secessionist movements in the region called Donbas including Donetsk and Luhansk the last one whose flag in particular is honestly hilarious now this is something I was going to show in the photo I saw a grey meme so if you haven't seen the flag of Luhansk it's a Confederate flag without the stars going through the blue cross I'm just going to describe a meme to you now that shows the production quality of these streams right but it was a jet of some sort I'm pretty sure it wasn't a MiG-29 it must have been something even older than that with Luhansk flags on it the caption was just holy shit Dukes of Luhansk yeah sorry now where was I? after that lovely little anecdote some people like to say that the Donetsk and Luhansk peoples republics only want to join Russia but while this could be the case now due to the long fighting and unwillingness of Ukrainian government to grant them autonomy in 2015 they signed a joint declaration stating that if Ukraine agreed to decentralise and grant them greater autonomy they would relinquish all territory and reintegrate into Ukraine the word there which should catch your ear is decentralise an obvious political aim of libertarians these people are an extremely these people are an extremely important detail to understanding the recent invasion but instead they'll probably be memory hold as the western military industrial complex tries to paint the black and white picture of Russia bad in waging war against the people of these regions who yes were assisted in weaponry by Russia the government of Ukraine has been aggressing upon these people in order to suppress their right to independence Vladimir Putin has claimed that the invasion of Ukraine is partially for the purpose of ending this long and bloody conflict that the Ukrainian state has waged against the separatists and to grant them autonomy what matters greatly here is what exactly autonomy would mean for them if Russia is victorious if Russia plans to give them the Crimean version of autonomy meaning absorption into the state then just as in that case Russia is the aggressor if they instead put an end to the conflict and grant these states independence or at least a true chance of allowing them to choose it then what they will in fact be doing is ending the aggression of the Ukrainian state against them and so far that is their stated aim if you think I've sounded overly sympathetic to the Russians so far be assured I have no love for Putin due to the fact that I don't think it would be possible for me to trust him any less than I currently do as much as I hate the baggage that comes with the term gaslighting due to its over usage by leftists he and the Russian government have been full on gaslight mode for the last month calling everyone crazy for even thinking it possible that Russia would invade Ukraine then they did while Putin along with the Russian government and army high ups have claims that their mission is if not the liberation of Donbass at least stopping the war against them I have a very very hard time believing them but we can try to clear this up by assessing the incentives the same way I did before by looking at what they stood to gain from Crimea Crimea is famous for its economic capacity and while I admit I have no knowledge of the economy of eastern Ukraine and can't find clear analyses that alone tells me that the economic incentive is either non-existent or minuscule and so can't be chalked up as the primary reason for conflict and just using the liberation narrative as cover it's also highly unlikely that they're just doing it out of the good of their own heart and I think a possible incentive is actually very plausible and that would be to turn these majority ethnic Russian border regions into buffer zones to the west going back to the Soviet Union Russia has loved and security provided to them by having a wall of friendly countries between them and the western powers previously known as the Warsaw Pact but for over 10 years now the country which has fit that I've put 10 ish I should say a lot more than that for decades now the only country which has fit that bill has been Belarus which tried to break away from this status in a recent popular uprising which failed now it's other bordering European nations Latvia, Estonia, Finland and Ukraine are all either in NATO and the European Union or actively trying to join them Ukraine has not been a reliably neutral neighbour since the Euromaidan protests which came immediately before the Crimean annexation so in Russia's eyes it is directly exposed to NATO and EU interest in both its northern and southern ends of its European border due to this long-standing policy of buffer zones now hanging on by a thread it's my opinion that Russia has a greater incentive to create independent states on the border of Ukraine rather than subjugating Ukraine entirely or outright annexing those regions and my last sentence I've got here says however this is certainly far from being set in stone and I don't know how I've managed this but I must have tapped my keyboard in some way I've put a smiley face emoji in whoa now I've made a love heart I don't know how I'm doing this it must be the controls I use to change screen so further things I want to say another thing I should have clarified at the beginning war is bad I should hope because I'm not checking the comments I hope nobody's in there saying I'm trying to justify the war I'm trying to say it's not as easy as to say Russia is the aggressor Ukraine has been aggressing on people secessionists and separatists who like I said in 2015 did have the aim of decentralization due to collapse in the ceasefire agreement probably by both sides ever since then it's just been a total war utter utter war in eastern Ukraine so it's like this is not a new conflict in which like I've heard lots of politicians saying Russia has invaded unprovoked that's complete nonsense they shouldn't have invaded but also Ukraine shouldn't have been bombing the people in Donbas for so long who should be allowed to secede I don't think we can argue against that I thought I'd have more things pop into mind but I think I've covered much more in the script than I actually imagined so let's go over to the chat saying that's not the let's go to the hands of Crimea I think you're talking to each other in the chat oh wait it's much fucking hell it's not working lovely so Dover Russia's flag I thought the flag of your hands was Russian flag oh okay never mind I do remember when Dover Russia was more of a thing the only innocent people are the civilians yes first thing again another premise if you pray I encourage you to pray with me for people Russia and Ukraine entirely especially the Ukrainian civilians good time Dover Russia's super shattered $4.99 Do you think that this will open the doors for government to further crack down on citizens' rights to defend the country no I can't imagine why that would further crack down on it like we saw occupied Democrats on Twitter celebrating how 10,000 AKs were being given out to civilians in Kiev I'm always going to call it Kiev by the way this new spelling that everyone's using I understand it's probably correct spell KYIV I simply don't know how to pronounce that I'm going to keep it as Kiev anyway yes we've seen liberals jumping up and down celebrating the receipt to civilians of fully automatic military and grade assault rifles the cognitive dissonance is of course a non-existent for them but I don't see why this would lead governments to crack down on citizens' rights to defend their country in fact by even though they haven't realised it it's gotten liberals in support of the Second Amendment and individual autonomy East Ukraine is rich in natural resources some of them include rare earth metals I had heard that there were mining infrastructure in that area it was tough for me to get many details on it West Ukraine is the farmland that makes a lot of sense right because Ukraine was the bread basket of much of the Soviet Union that's why there were so many Kulaks there and they had to get rid of them so I want to know does anyone disagree with my analysis like am I do you believe it is true that you can say there is a clear regressor oh one thing let me go back to my Twitter thread actually because it's got a few more things that I was that I've missed out so far just scroll down a little bit right so what's going to make it it'll have to be very things are going to get much clearer for us in hindsight to know who is the aggressor like I was trying to get at is determined mostly on what are Russia's actual objectives here is their objective state expansion and conquest if so they're the aggressor is their objective to try and grant actual autonomy and independence to the republics in Donbas then it's not so clear what is clear is that this should never happen this war is still bad this is all still the result of states using power and aggressing on people for their own gain started with Russia aggressing against Crimea which led to separatist movements going up in the east of Ukraine which led to the Ukrainian government aggressing against them like I feel like this is just simply beating a dead horse but if I don't outright say it I'm going to be accused of all sorts of things so I just hope that you can understand where I'm coming from and what I said at the beginning about how personal bias I don't begrudge anyone for any positions of personal bias within this because it is simply so messy right now you have if you were Ukrainian holy shit you should fight for your country if you are in Donbas like Donetsk or Luhansk you want to be independent from Ukraine I could understand why you want to fight for that side of the war too this is what I mean by how it's so bad my take is that's an absolute load of bullshit and escape goat Jonathan Diaz super shattered $20 as far as propaganda is concerned this is basically one big video with democracy as the actress I can't believe people want to risk nuclear annihilation for this fetish okay so the bot there censored him but he said basically one big porn video with democracy as the porn actress and you're right like this is it's very much more of a damsel in distress story really but I mean you can't go wrong with that for the analysis to be honest so what cam said oh yeah so the escape goat that Russia is going into cleanse Ukraine of sexual degeneracy absolute nonsense Russia and Putin especially like this this is where I think postmodernist no not postmodernist sorry not going to give them any praise the Russians are correct doesn't mean that they're orally or even ethically right but what they are correct about is politics is about power it's not about ideology nobody understands that better than Putin and the Russian Government Putin would not give a flying fuck about what the state of sexuality is in Ukraine absolutely would not care he would not be doing this unless it could better him politically that is simply a man about power what the post libertarians say is that ideology is an enemy to power you don't find politicians who stay in power for as long as Putin has who are consumed so greatly by ideology like Stalin was nowhere near as much of an ideological communist as any other communist you can name he cared about power a bit of ideology going on there but there is no ideology in Russian politics it's just politics full stop and secondly people thinking that Russia is a very Christian country are completely deluding themselves I believe it has the highest rates of abortion and divorce in the entire world and this is to be expected after the persecution of religion that came at the hands of the Soviets you are living hundreds of years in the past if you think that Russia is currently a very Christian country really isn't and neither is Putin apart from there is Marco here saying Putin is not an upstanding Christian he knows very far from it I've just seen a photo of him emerging out of a pool of water with a bunch of orthodox priest behind I guess it's some sort of baptism renewal there's no way he's going to do that I don't think apart from symbolizing to the first of all the orthodox church in Russia loves Putin this is one of their biggest problems they stray into the problem becoming lackeys for him fortunately patriarch Kareel I think that is the patriarch of the orthodox church in Russia has come out against the war on Ukraine even if he was a bit vague but I think that's actually pretty brave for him to do Putin himself not a great example of a Christian any sense of it am I going to keep the live stream on the channel to watch later? yep I don't take my live streams down he would do it for a political stunt my thoughts exactly thoughts on cats, not big on them I'm a dog person, dogs are useful you know what cats can be useful for vermin control but they're not good pets they're good pets domestic violence is legal in Russia holy shit I didn't know that there are two aggressors fighting here with good people in between yes yes you're right that is always the case with the state this is kind of what I mean with things I hope go without saying but in terms of which state has aggressed against which state I know that's almost almost a sentence we really shouldn't care about because when one state aggresses against another it can only do this through the means of aggressing against individuals and states are just created out of individuals but I mean who is the who's the aggressive party in Ukraine versus Russia to isolate it down to those terms what's my take on the 2014 revolution and the action of Kiev state right after you know what I don't know that well to be perfectly honest with you because I was quite invested in world events during that time I was following the year of Maidan and then Crimea and then outbreak of Donbass pretty closely at that time but I didn't have any sort of actual consolidated political views so I don't remember looking at it through any particular lens and thinking ah this is right this is wrong I was very neutral about it and just seeing what's going on and trying to keep up to date of course the revolution started because lots of the younger Ukrainian population wanted to join the EU and I'm against joining the EU but the reason why this turned into like a riot because the government wanted them to stay under Russia's influence I don't like Russia so where do I go here it's tough to say at that point yeah and I really think so the most important thing we should be doing I really think is not tweeting I stand with Ukraine or putting a Russian flag in your name or anything like that it's concern over the civilians here do not get swept up into the propaganda the propaganda from our side in the west will be for military intervention we know that the media outlets are the as Michael Mallis calls them the propaganda wing of the military industrial complex he's right and if you get swept up into this propaganda of Russia bad Ukraine damsel in distress passion of freedom and democracy you're submitting yourself to this shonen spirit beast super shattered $6.78 love your channel dude no any means of linking up with like minded people libertarians in London or the UK in general yeah I've actually been to meetings of the UK libertarian party once in London and once in another city so that the party itself I'll say look it up look it up yourself it's expect weirdness like I really hope nobody from the party and especially nobody that I met is watching this but libertarians we're weird we need to acknowledge that if you expect if you go to a libertarian meet-up especially in a country so when it's so so so niches ours it's going to be weird people there but by all means find like the UK libertarian party facebook pages keep an eye on their events section and normally talk about when they're doing meet-ups and you can go to a pub have a drink with some people talk about these ideas yeah that's probably the only way to do it to be perfectly honest with you or join some sort of like I don't know how I can tell you one but find some sort of like a discord a discord channel a discord server with a high concentration of Brits and you should be able to get in there and make some friends oh yeah as Zulu says the Scottish libertarian party is also very good count-dancular supports them quite a lot as well so they've got a fair bit of traction but yeah it's only in Scotland I can't imagine if you were up in Scotland and weren't Scottish like you know like what's the word have segregation and they'll probably let you in yeah Zulu's a mod on my channel well thank you very much for the donation oh yeah I haven't even really thanked anymore for the donations by the way sorry I'm so used to all this like fame and success now that I just completely forget that donations involve money thank you so much to everyone who's done it so far let me find out we had RF USA RF I hope that's it's gonna be some weeb shit thank you very much for the five dollars camcype thank you so much for the ten dollars Jonathan Diaz 20 fucking hell that was the thing about as far as propaganda is concerned this is basically one big porn video but democracy is a porn actress well who's the actor then I have to ask in that case can't believe people want to risk your nuclear annihilation for this fetish yeah and that's that's why I said Freudian analysis like that is probably actually pretty the liberal people on Twitter love to be completely Freudian against everyone they don't like saying if you disagree with them you've got a small penis so Mars will turn this Freudian analysis back on them and just say they're fetishists for nuclear holocaust cat just perded in front of you I thought you said puked and that would have just reinforced my position so yeah continue what I was saying on earlier like if you have Ukrainian family and you're worried for them you have absolutely every right to be worried for them and be against Russia if you have friends and family in Donetsk and Luhansk you have absolutely every right to I could say to view Russia as a preferable alternative given the Ukrainian government's treatment of those people for the last eight years and if you were Ukrainian living in Kiev or anywhere else if I was Ukrainian under this I would absolutely go and get one of those 10,000 assault rifles and fight for my fucking country if I was from Donetsk and Luhansk and did not want to be part of Ukraine and Ukraine had been bombing my place and people for years on end I'd absolutely fight Ukraine for this I don't want to say like but what this is highlighting or should be highlighting so a lot of people and isn't really is that yeah war is a messy fucking business it's not black and white it's not Adolf Putin versus Princess Zelensky it's fucking difficult and when you've just got two state actors trying to either expand their territory or retain their territory the people of which want to leave no there's not going to be clear good guys are bad guys in this fight because of this if you have a personal bias one way or the other it's within your right to because we don't I honestly don't think we have an objective standards of view this apart from saying war bad and like yeah we know and this isn't going to help anyone if we just get up on a grandstand and say war bad means of course like you know advocate for the end of the war but if that's all you have to say but this is a human conflict here involving human people who are going to fucking die and already have died like we need to do something more than that I think relativism I wouldn't exactly call it relativism because that would say ah we can't say whether or not this is right or wrong flat out but we can war is absolutely wrong flat out state aggression is wrong flat out but when you have two state actors aggressing against each other and people getting caught up in the crossfire what do you do that has to then come down to personal preference in some regard people who fight for their country should be celebrated well here's the thing that this point you can't really say that Russian troops are fighting for their country and that brings in a whole other aspect that's why I haven't said what I've said is if you're from Donetsk and Luhansk I would completely think you're within your right to take up arms and fight for your own country but then if you're Russian you don't have much of a stake in this game apart from unless you believe in this narrative I talked about earlier of creating a buffer zone to the west and viewing NATO as an enemy who's expanding all around you I'd say you wouldn't be unreasonable of that belief but that is far from justifying this action this invasion so then that then puts Russia under the spotlight like yeah a Russian soldier from Moscow or I don't know any other part in Russia does not have this defend your home principle that I've just mentioned for Ukrainians and people in Donbas which side is morally in the right at this current stage because of this dichotomy where I've just said where a Ukrainian person fighting is defending their home a Russian person fighting is at best liberating a small part of eastern Ukraine at worst just aggressing on these people so in terms of libertarian ethics I don't think until we see clearly what the Russian government objective has been this whole time because we won't know until it's over despite what they say we can't really say too much but in terms of morality I would say the Ukrainians absolutely have the upper advantage there they're defending their home Russian people aren't, the people from Donetsk and Luhansk are those aren't people from the Russian Republic many of them are conscripts as well so like biomes don't then just say Russian troops are evil and they're just like Nazi stormtroopers again which is the kind of thing you'll see on CNN I had an argument with a good friend of mine earlier they didn't even actually respond to this on discord they posted two videos one of which was a rocket hitting an apartment in Kiev you might have seen the video or at least the aftermath photo and another one was some civilian medics one of which had been shot and wounded I think he was still alive and he was posting this saying like look at these awful things the Russians are doing and I just thought it's very so childish to look at a war and like tragedy happens in war that's why it's so bad but then just imagining that this is all done out of sheer pure malice and the people who've done this have been deliberate like no shit happens in life shit really happens in war rockets can absolutely not have the correct aiming their fuel management system can malfunction and so it can hit an apartment building where that was absolutely not the intention of the person firing it and medics getting caught in the crossfire that's something that happens with war I just don't want to see people who should be good lateral thinkers going into this Russia bad Ukraine good mindset I know this is war war is fucking hell and there's a reason for it it's not black and white easy bad guy good guy who flags waving around you know support the cause really isn't someone said I said it is a asymmetric war I don't think it is um to get into like the geopolitics and actual military situation of it this is where I think there are people far better than me I only have vague ideas but we've been hearing recently about how stalled the Russian advance has become um you see videos of convoys of APCs I won't call them BTRs or BMPs because I don't know the difference but I know there is a difference so at least that's sharing some of this self awareness I was trying to uphold um just simply running out of fuel you can see Russian APCs parked in the middle of the road Ukrainians going up to them saying what's going on they just go yeah I've got no fuel things are getting pretty out of hand we don't know where this is going Russia's hypersonic cruise missiles it seems like they only used those on the first day I believe and so it's potentially they've run out of them they could have used all of their cruise missiles already and that's not good for them ah thank you very much uh is that Yoku bus? Joker bus? saying this is a good take thank you ah then any LP people yeah what is it about LP people and just sucking up to fucking western propaganda narratives but if you this is what I mean I don't have a personal grievance whatsoever or even an ethical grievance if you support Ukraine or support Russia what I want you to do is think about this for yourself because there is massive massive propaganda on both sides yes we know Russia uses loads of propaganda through state affiliated media you don't think that our complex uses propaganda our media our institutions like I've said have heavy sunk costs into seeing Ukraine become like democratic NATO, EU, this and that they're just not gonna they're not gonna view this objectively they have skin in this game and you should not be trying to take objective impartial analysis from people who are just so upfront with their bias don't expect that we are just gonna get nothing but truth and Russia's gonna get nothing but propaganda you're both gonna get propaganda think about this clearly that's all I ask if you say you support Russians and separatists ffff yeah go ahead but think about this for yourself that's the only way to do it Putin is destroying Russia well that's true if this he threw a real Hail Mary on this one if this doesn't work out I saw someone say he's gonna get the Gaddafi dreamer and I have to agree with that he's hedging a lot of bets on this they've been so resistant for so long because of their energy independence and that has given them so much strength that they're a heavily exporting nation in terms of their economy and they like to think that tap can't be turned off because places like Germany and France and even the UK as we're going through our own energy crisis um struggle so much but like that's not something that could last forever if this doesn't get blown over in a week yeah he could be absolutely fucked he could be dragged through the streets and hung from a lamppost it's entirely possible it's a big information wall that's absolutely right both sides are trying to well one knock out each other's internet access but also shut off their own internet access so that civilians can't leak intel is there any valid moral ethical support for Putin in your opinion I would say not reasonably if it was true that if it was reasonable to expect that he was being honest when he talks about um what was the word he used de-Nazifying Ukraine like that's just fucking mental I mean that says it all at that point that anything that comes out of his mouth the next probably isn't to be trusted the same way any liberal on our side of the fence calls anyone a Nazi if we could trust that he was actually just trying to liberate the separatist areas maybe would you be in any sort of right mind to trust a single word that comes out of his mouth absolutely not so no it's hard to say there is any sort of case for him Russia as a whole Russia as a whole is a completely different story then we like a normal Russian person is not wrapped up in this conflict a normal Ukrainian person is and that's that is where there's a lot of asymmetries the October revolution as consequence has been a disaster for the Russian nation yes since day one that's putting it lightly and now here's one take he's already proven that's not what he's doing by attacking Kiev um I'm not incredibly sold on that take I wouldn't say I completely disagree but if if if it truly was and we gave all benefit of the doubt which we would actually be stupid to do and say he was just trying to liberate um DPR and LPR again I would not do do not expect that to be deliberate like no no no artillery battalion or battery I should say is what we call it in the British military is outwardly going to go out of the way and say you know what boys let's go fucking kill some civilians today like no I cannot possibly yet lots of civilians will die that would not be the intention I just don't like that way of viewing it um where was I going um shit no sorry I've completely lost my train of thought ah revolutionary prayer sorry for the frequent pinging I'm sorry I haven't noticed I told you I'm not going to keep it up with the chat you've been working out and lifting for weeks but you've lost all motivation what should you do hmm I don't know remember well first of all remember it takes three weeks to break a habit three days to lose it I don't like oh is that is that sources you got any peer-reviewed clinical gels no that's why it takes to be common wisdom and I found it to be true for myself if you've been doing it for less than three weeks kick I think that could be a motivation know that if you keep going this is going to become a habit we're creatures of habit virtue is um the application of habits just keep going power through once you crash once you cross the mark where it just becomes normal to work out it's not something you need to be motivated for and then you've made it I have rusty shackle for why did you start lifting in the first place always keep that in the back of your mind yes no of course so it doesn't matter just still evil just like a marathon to kill civilians was evil yes like this is why war is so bad when it's one of the reasons why war is so bad there's many we don't have to I think my point is that like the death of civilians in war is bad enough we don't have to then pretend that civilian deaths are because one side is so evil it's just evil people doing evil things no war as a whole is evil and the people are most responsible for it are the ones conducting it the ones who started it the ones who have the most to gain out of it when civilians die in the crossfire which was inevitable because war is hell it doesn't it doesn't behoove anyone to view that as a outwardly malicious act that evil this one side is so evil because they killed civilians that that is the tragedy of war in and of itself it doesn't you don't have to try and make it seem more evil than it is because it is so evil because running as a city exercise perfectly good motivation I fucking hate cardio I only do weights now every side in every wars committed war crimes yeah because a war is a crime there's no point trying to make war crimes seem worse than they already are because they are so terrible you don't have to try and embellish it and take overly simplistic views you don't have to over exaggerate it it's bad enough on it's own I thought I was going to have more specific stuff come to mind but well I don't know this has been going on for 15 minutes that's normally about how long I go how long I go to the stream for if you guys have any questions I'll give it another minute or two see if there's any questions in chat if they pop up I'll take my time in answering you fear giving many guns out to civilians or blur the line between civilians and combatants this will get bloody any war blur the lines between civilians and combatants well at least since the Napoleonic wars this is one thing I wanted to bring up Hopper's analysis of modern war since from the Napoleonic era afterwards since ideology got infused into warfare absolutely impeccable if you haven't read democracy the god that failed what are you doing you have no excuse to have not read it by now absolutely blow your mind ever since the French Revolution the war became ideological then we had the concept of total war if wars weren't like Germany versus America versus Germany it was democracy versus fascism and if you live in America that means you're a democrat if you live in Germany that means you're a Nazi and you are enemies it's not militaries fighting each other the way it was in the time of kings this is why his case for the Napoleonic year reducing war is so good if you look at the casualty rates of the time of like the Roman Empire that was a highly highly ideological time even if you think it wasn't it was about keeping the ideology of Rome itself alive and so every man was committed to keeping this ideology and fighting for it and an unbelievable about if people died in battle after the collapse of the Roman Empire into the feudal age due to feudal fatalities and even general participants in war the number absolutely shot down because in feudal societies kings went to war countries didn't go to war since after the French Revolution it became countries going to war again we've had total war and utter devastation to civilian life that is the root cause of it thank you so much for the two donations thank you dude turning up to ten extremely generous of you I'm glad that this a lot of what I've said hasn't been extremely controversial that makes me very happy because I thought I don't know I've been expect when I give these takes I've been expecting more resistance because so many people have no experience of a peer to peer war in their lives of a modern nation versus a modern nation fighting each other and a lot of people don't know what to do they're still swept up in the our side versus evil Islamist terrorists like ISIS and they imagine that war is always black and white because it's been pretty black and white for quite a while in all fairness even though of course we shouldn't be there it's been easy for people to accept this concept that we are the good guys everyone who is against us is the bad guys and now that we aren't involved in this war now that it's Russia and Ukraine and we have more close political ties to Ukraine than Russia then so many people have just gone fully on board with this very I've lost my train of thought again I do apologize anyway I'm just glad that people are willing to hear and you want to take on this I absolutely agree with more than happy with you that guy 117 super shattered $9 and 99 cents how do you see the war playing out at this point now it's very tough to I don't know because when it first happened I thought a week I thought like of course a lot of the it appears from that the Russian people or governments were being very bullish on it as they would be and expecting to be done in two days well it's been two days now and they haven't won I thought from the outset again I'm not a fucking military analyst like take my opinion with as much grain of salt as many grains of salt as you'd like I was expecting about a week and it's less than a week so I'm not thinking like oh that's it Russia has lost all momentum that's it they can't win now I don't think that's entirely the case however it seems like on many fronts they are stalling lots of people have said that the like tank lines are just basically there for well propaganda almost like look at all these photos of all our tanks moving in but that it's not really the tanks doing the fighting it's a lot of the air force I don't think that's very true Russia's military doctrine is still very focused on infantry and APCs and armoured infantry and armour ground and if if their ground forces run out of fuel and ammo and get lost and you know that's it that is a death spell for Russia it's not it's not like the US where they've just got drone after drone after drone and cruise missiles launch from battleships no they're still very focused on feet and tyres so they really could be on the back ropes but you're not going to know people are starting to understand what the fog of war is why it's called the fog of war like no nothing is clear right sorry I've got a few pings let me give up on them probably Shubra thoughts on Ukrainian president remaining in Kiev is it admirable yeah of course it is oh my gosh could you imagine any of our politicians doing out of favor under siege fuck no they'd be on their private planes to the fucking Cayman islands in no time leaving us to it to complete the war that they started like if Zelensky Zelensky is carolus rex super shattered $5.47 great stream Ed Balls thank you Chromo I know that's you thank you very much Ed Balls indeed what's that 50 face money I don't know what that is shonen spirit beast super shattered $6.78 unrelated thoughts on Canada Trudeau and freedom protest I wouldn't be able to say anything you haven't heard this is like what I'm trying to do with this talk on the very muddy ethics is trying to show it's called the fog of war for a reason this is so messy it's not clear cut however any take you've heard from libertarians on the freedom convoy I will absolutely go with that is so black you can't get more black and white than that more power to them and fuck the fuck fucking Trudeau but you see what I mean like yeah of course I will admire Zelensky for I mean he's backing up his own words right he knew who's gonna cause conflict with Russia by trying to join NATO and they were so close before this broke out and he's putting his fucking money where his mouth is but he's understood he's putting his nation in danger of conflict the conflicts come and he's ready to fucking fight it or at least you know it could of course again be propaganda the photo of him in a plate character and Klitschko with a pkm he was holding or something pretty epic but yeah that could just be a photo up but even if he stays in the city you can't help but admire the man especially compared to our fucking elites no chance that they put their money where the mouth is when it comes down to the wire god at least admire them okay let me sorry let me try to find my pings well thank you again to Chromo that guy double one seven dude he's a gold subscriber of mine on subscribe star thank you very much very generous of you and Shonen spirit beast again thank you fellas okay Zulu what's my take on the theory that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were setting up for a pincer on Iran well you know what I haven't heard that before I don't know why like is that something Scott Horton talks about because if so I need to listen to Scott Horton more and it would be a shame if I didn't know that that's entirely plausible does Afghanistan border Iran to the south I don't know let me go and google maps real quick it's the height of geopolitics and military analysis I won't put google maps on my screen either because it will give you my fucking street address yep okay just checking that it wasn't oh yeah it does wow okay you know what I didn't even know that Afghanistan's entire western border was around hey there's a theory isn't it if it wasn't Russia would be trying to get into a war with it's Iran the the stay over cold war boogeymen even though well I mean this is another point I've had right why has the west been so antagonistic towards Putin for the last 20 years my holy shit having the Russian economy and resources on our side like I cannot understand why politically you wouldn't want that I think the only reason is for theatrics keeping the old cold war boogeyman of the red scare and just applying it to the new Russia for the sake of elections like fucking 2016 just make Russia the boogeyman ah well Trump's Russian Trump sympathizes with Russia therefore he's one of the boogeymen like fucking just shows the utter contemptible state of even just the political acumen of our elites like take the morality out of the equation right are they good politicians no they're fucking terrible to start beef with this huge country that is extremely advantageous to our economy to the point where all of western Europe is almost entirely energy dependent on them and make an enemy out of them you fucking idiots crazy honking violates the NAP definitely not if Ukraine wins what do I see the impact being quite potentially like I said earlier the Gaddafi treatment of Putin dragged through the streets his own blood pissing out of his face and getting hung from a lamppost it's entirely possible because if they don't this is such a huge gamble guys huge huge huge everything rides on it if they win Putin achieves his objective which is either installing a puppet government in Ukraine or I don't like to say liberating because that is a very friendly word but giving autonomy to Donbas if those are his objectives and he achieves them he's gonna walk away great he's gonna be either a liberator or a conqueror and a strong man and that already is a great image that works for him in Russia if he loses his country is fucked the ramifications of a full scale invasion of a country just on the verge of joining NATO at that point you would then at that point it would be so politically fucking stupid if our elites didn't got him for that the fact that they've made an enemy out of him for the last two decades now that's fucking stupid and completely pointless in my opinion I mean yeah we can feel like it's Putin's biggest mistake but if he wins probably won't be the reason he's done this is because he would have assessed and I think he'd be writing in assessing this that our, that NATO West is gonna do nothing about it I think they will only do I don't even think they'll do anything like even if it becomes clear that Russia's losing I still don't think they'll do anything apart from if you watch British night stream that I was on the other days basically saying that they're gonna hold all sorts of emergency conferences shake their fists clutch their pearls wag their fingers until the war is over I thought that was gonna be the pure strategy give it a week Russia would have won and this whole time our country's leaders would have gone we strongly condemn this action by Vladimir Putin just stalling just stalling until it's all over is NATO not a government equivalent to a defensive pact we might have for private entities I think if we follow the reasoning that government should act as if it were a private agency joining NATO would definitely be in their best interest of rights hmm if there weren't more extremely political ties to NATO it is not as simple as saying oh hey guys if someone invades us could you defend us and if someone evades you we'll defend you like you have to bend a lot to join NATO you have to be part of the hegemony of the American Empire that's really what NATO is it is this the vassal states of the American Empire hmm it's not as easiest to say that it's just a defensive pact maybe it wasn't the beginning but I'd still even doubt that claim to be perfectly honest with you Russia won't win they'll possibly defeat the Ukrainian government but they won't win against the civilians guerrilla warfare's 2.0p but that would be the case if I think I think that would be the case if they either installed a puppet government or just simply occupy the country occupation I do not think would be their objective a puppet government would not last like yes they've got one in Belarus they've done for decades but like look at the clashes that happened last year like that was was it last year or the year before I don't know time flies I always get that wrong there were huge huge uprisings about it it was because they wanted to be democratic and you know that's a bit cringe but like it's not like they exactly have a very good political system in the first place you can't blame them for trying to change it I think but the uprising failed an uprising like that in Ukraine which does have a very anti-Russian anti-Soviet really but through that same vein and especially now anti-Russian patriotism running through it no way they absolutely could not occupy or install a puppet government in there and have it last that's why I think the only feasible objective could be for them to establish independent states on the border and create a buffer zone because there's no way they could conquer Ukraine and hold on to it absolutely no chance like Ukrainian people in the west and the center they are fucking Ukrainian and they know it and they love it and they would not roll over they've absolutely got the will to fight and the will to resist is NATO as an idea an anti-libertarian concept what's wrong with having a defensive pact I guess the individuals don't consent but what if we eliminate that so okay taking that out of the equation like as a concept defensive pacts as they stand no but NATO it's so much more than a defensive pact it's of course that's what it likes to say it is but that's like the UN saying they're just a peacekeeping force no it's really not it comes with a whole load of baggage not as simple as just you look out for my back I'll look out for yours alright boys well this has gone on for over an hour that's pretty good I normally like my live streams are pretty much only ever Q&As so I always have something to riff off this has been rather unstructured apart from reading from a script what if we invite a rush into NATO they'd say thanks but fuck off I'm sorry it's time to go it's time for all you boys and girls in Europe along with me to go to bed revolutionary bro it won't be night time for you there but you yet but sleep is one of the most important things in building muscle get good sleep get jacked Russia and China rules will be lost already China for sure oh that was my point I was trying to get to as well why the fuck is our government's made such an enemy out of Putin for the last 20 years when he could have been a seriously valuable ally in deterring Chinese expansion that's what we need to fucking worry about thoughts on Lord Miles absolutely based I want to shake the guys hand one day if he ever stays in this country for more than two minutes about what is going to happen in the future between airports all right thank you very much boys and girls thank you so much to everyone who donated I'll read off the names again we got do do do do do do do do DoRF US RF camsite Jonathan Diaz Shonen spirit beast twice doo doo doo doo do yeah again that guy double one seven thank you very much extremely generously you because like I said Sorry Grappstein, sorry you've just joined. 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