 with another MVP Buzz Chat and I'm talking today with Dujan. Hello. Hello, thank you for having me. It's great to have you and another brand spanking new MVP. That's very exciting. Congratulations again on receiving your MVP. Thank you very much. Yeah, it was definitely unexpected turnout. So yeah, I was very, very happy to see it still getting over the actual hype of becoming an MVP as well. Well, and you know, and there aren't a ton of enterprise mobility MVPs, why don't you talk about that? Like, what's your focus area? What kind of went into what were your contributions that led towards becoming an enterprise mobility MVP? So my background was always was I always specialized in the system sense of that. One of the ones always being SCCM and I think naturally when you're an SCCM, I think at some point you will meet sort of the in-tune and end point management and workplace management side. So once I got into that, I started to get a lot heavier into that side, a lot of more content, a lot more blog content, article content was coming out, especially in the moving transition between parts like SCCM and in-tune and workplace management as well. And quite a lot of blog series came out of it and it just sort of started to write itself after that. Good friends with Harjeet. Do you know Harjeet? I know him, yeah. Yeah, he just left the MVP world and joined Microsoft. Yeah, but in that world, so the SCCM world is in David James over there at Microsoft. Did you know David? Yeah, he's my brother-in-law, little known detail out there. So very smart boy in that space. So long time Microsoft person in that space. I think he's been, I don't know how long he's been at Microsoft 25 plus years, but back when it was server and tools, but he's been working in that space for a long time. So I know a little bit about that through that family line about that area of technology. But well, very cool. So what kind of stuff are you doing in the community? And what are the community activities? Like, what does it look like where you are in the world now? Are you doing things, user groups, that kind of stuff? Yeah, so before I was actually very heavy in the technical side, but since that sort of got winding down and the technical gallery got taken down, I started focusing more on my website and sort of making the blog and article content there. So avenues like Twitter, LinkedIn became good source as well. And I think the communities are building up a lot more, especially in LinkedIn. So I'm also an official contributor to a group called the Modern Endpoint Management Group as well. And there's a lot of MPPs around the enterprise mobility side as well as a lot of content created there. And there's tens of thousands of members there now. So it's definitely growing. So yeah, that's definitely where a lot of my contribution attention is being put at the moment. But yeah, it's definitely being well received everywhere. It's always it's, you know, obviously, you know, everybody kind of went towards the digital formats for content with the pandemic. And it's only I've just went to this past month to my first event and it wasn't very well attended. So still a lot of people are nervous out there, but then went to an offsite with my larger team and so flew across the country to go meet with people in person. And I forgot how much I missed that face to face. And you can have the fantastic, there's one thing to be said about you're not losing travel time. You're not having to go and prepare for that stuff. And there are there are so many more opportunities to go and build content, speak to user groups around the world. So contributions is not an issue. It's not a matter of doing those things. But I don't I don't know. I mean, personally, what's your personal take on doing the, you know, the pure online versus in person? I think I've probably been more used to doing it online only than in person. I think so far. So I think the adaption to me is not too difficult, but it would be definitely interesting to do a lot more in person or directly anything in person. Actually, I think at the moment as well. Yeah, well, it's I mean, that because that's one thing is you really have to work hard with doing like webinars and other things to to make sure you're getting that interaction with with people. And it's just easy to be quiet, not raise your hand and not ask questions in an online format. But when a speaker is like, you know, points to you in the crowd, you know, in a session, you feel more obligated to to participate, make it interactive, which is the part that I love about presenting life. Putting people on the spot, I guess is what I love. Well, what kind of stuff are you writing about and focusing on? Like, what what are your most recent blog posts or videos about? Um, so the most recent blog idea that actually reached about an hour ago. That was sort of around the enterprise mobility stuff. But a lot of the content that I've been doing has been around my mobility. It's also been around other areas. So I also have a sort of gone monitoring side of things. I've got a webinar coming up on the 28th of September where I'm demonstrating a new app which I've developed for creating management action. So, um, but I've also got a lot of content as well that's very split across things like PowerShell, Power BI, everything in the system. But it's pretty, pretty varied content. Yeah, I imagine there's a lot of that, you know, as we were kind of talking before we started recording about, you know, cross topics, you know, especially when you talk about kind of DevOps related areas and building tooling and automating, then, you know, like it seems like to me, again, it's not my area, my focus area, but kind of blurred lines in between some of the power platform stuff with what the enterprise mobility side. So I don't know how close you were of, like, enterprise mobility versus business applications. You know, usually there's a distinction between those, but again, there's a lot of overlap. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, very cool. Well, so, you know, what else is, what are your plans for the rest of the year, any other from a content perspective or focus, any, like, Microsoft technologies that you're diving into? I mean, obviously we have Ignite that's happening. Is it November? Is it next? I don't, I need to have a big calendar on the wall behind my monitor, I think, for this thing. I think it's November. I'm not paying attention to it yet because I don't know that details are out there if the site's even live. I don't think so. But, you know, anything that you're looking to that you're excited about from the Microsoft roadmap, keeping your NDAs in mind, obviously, don't talk about things you shouldn't, but anything that you're excited about? I wouldn't say there's anything specific that I would say I'm excited about. I normally keep an eye out for anything and everything that needs to get released, anything brand new I want to see. I want to get on to it. I mean, my background's always had the top of the generalistic background where anything I wanted to see, I wanted to touch it. I wanted to master it. Anything you've been on the road back for pretty much excited about. Well, I saw that you have on your LinkedIn, it's like a Microsoft technologist. That side, that's generally the go-to for anything that's going on. So, you're paying attention to message center updates. So, typically, Microsoft, so I put myself in that category as well. While I'm more on the productivity collaboration side, but I'm generally watching the message center updates that are coming in and aware of, and I'm on multiple tenants where I have some responsibilities and one that I don't have on my primary enterprise, but where I'm focusing on, I'm aware of solutions that could impact on three different tenants. So, it's good to have that ear out. Well, very cool. Well, I really appreciate you're taking the time to chat today, and I know it's the end of your day. So, going into a weekend, so I always appreciate that. But for folks that want to find out more about you, follow you, get in touch with you, what are the best ways to reach you? I would say LinkedIn, my profile in Twitter is a great way to get in touch with you as well. Of course, I've got my websites, where I've got my content, where I like my institutions website, also got the tech pool website as well. So, yeah, I'm pretty accessible in a lot of ways, but I think LinkedIn's one of probably the best direct ways to get in touch with you. Well, excellent. And I will have, of course, on the blog post at unbuckleyplanet.com, I'll have links to all of his social networks and things that are out there. So, you can click on that. If you're finding that, if you're watching this out via YouTube, then you can find your way that way as well. As well as, I forget to pitch this sometimes, is you can go to the mvp.microsoft.com and find any MVP around the world. The search criteria is not that great. Like, you can't go in there and say, UK and type that in and then get all the MVPs within a region. Microsoft doesn't do that, but you can by name and by other keywords in the profile. So, like, if you typed in SCCM, you know, Dujan would most likely pop up with all of the contributions that you have. So, well, awesome. Well, thanks a lot for your time and we'll hopefully, we'll see if not virtually through Ignite and stuff going on. Maybe we'll see you in the new years. Travel starts to open up. Oh, yeah, definitely. I'll definitely be excited to start traveling around that time. Yeah, hopefully, we'll have the MVP summit in Redmond campus next year. Yeah, hopefully. All right. We'll talk to you soon.